Katana > Broadsword

>>150978847
>guaranteed replies
You got me faggot.

>>150978847
Bait gif aside this was a pretty entertaining show. Too bad it didn't get close to the end.

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>>150978847

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>>150979166
the best

The worst or best part is that this is what Japs actually believe.

>>150979166
>crashed a katana car
>and there were no survivors
What is this, retroactive baneposting?

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>>150978847
>>150980930

>>150982995
>forbidden technique
For fuck's sake

>>150982995
source?

>>150983183
I don't know, sadly.

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>>150978847
nope

>>150983183
Reincarnation no Kaben

>>150978847
>Katana is the best sword

>Deagle (.50AE) is the best firearm
>Skyrim is the best RPG
>(?)Mustang is the best car

>>150983372
They have a totally untrained fighter who doesn't even understand the most basic forms slam a cheap trash katana into a western sword that's held in a brace. If they had literally anyone from my kendo club do that same 'demonstration' with an actual, properly folded katana, it would cut through that trash like paper. There's a reason Samurai didn't even bother wearing armor, or only wore ceremonial painted wood. A properly wielded katana will cut through it.

>>150983936
>citation needed

>>150982127
>crashing this katana
>with no diamonds

>>150983372
And another show showed that the Katana was actually quite versatile, more than the sword there that it's breaking.

Yet another analysis showed that the Katana here was badly made. One of the better signs to the casual observer is that the Katana bent and warped at the end. This is important because Katanas don't do that. Your typical Katana is made very very solid, hard, by its forging process. They are not indestructible, but when they break, they break. It's much more common for the nature of the Katana to break, shatter or chip.

It brings a lot into question about this Katana her that warped and bent all out of shape like it was made out of a soft metal instead of being a piece of steel and other elements folded into each other repeatedly.

>>150983372
Actually it was damascus steel that was famous for cutting through other metals, even steel weapons.

The sad reality is the swords in the GIF there probably aren't forged like either one of them would have been forged back in the day.

>magic sword beats a slab of iron.
Really makes you think. Everybody seriously replying to this is a newshit or a shitposter.

>>150983936
That's the most Ken-sama post I have ever seen

>>150984305
>somebody who isn't retarded browses /a/
Where do you think you are? U R only allowed to shitpost here, at least try to fit in, my good man.

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>>150984260
This is the most Ken-sama post I have ever seen.

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>>150983936
Gotta be more subtle than that but I'll still give you a (You).

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>>150983936
impressive

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>>150984260
>This is important because Katanas don't do that. Your typical Katana is made very very solid, hard, by its forging process.
This is completely wrong though.

Katana are mostly made of iron, only the cutting edges are made of steel. If the hard cutting edge chips away, e.g. due to the blade hitting something hard like another sword's edge, then the blade loses its structural integrity and deforms.

If anything the fact that this blade bends rather than breaking is proof that this is NOT a modern reproduction made of modern steel but a traditionally made blade.

>>150984305
>Actually it was damascus steel that was famous for cutting through other metals, even steel weapons.
A Victorian myth. Damascus blades couldn't cut through other swords either and they had their own share of problems. It's just another case of grass being greener on the other side.

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>>150978847

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much worse than that. Much, much worse than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 120 Yen (that's about $1) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can't even cut wooden boards with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce some of the biggest pieces of shit known to mankind.

Katanas are barely half as sharp as European swords and half as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can't cut through at all. I'm pretty sure a katana would break trying to cut a knight wearing full plate with any kind of slash.

Ever wonder why feudal Japan never bothered conquering Europe? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Knights and their Oakeshott types X through XXII of destruction. Even in World War II, Japanese soldiers targeted the men with the mamelukes first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the worst sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require worse stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d4 Damage
x2 Crit
-2 to hit and damage
Can never count as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d6 Damage
x2 Crit
-1 to hit and damage
Can never count as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do much less in d20, see my new stat block.

>>150982127
That meme is older than baneposting.
for you

>>150988515
I'm aware. The original diamond test was in 2006 or so.
I was wondering whether we memed baneposting in the first place, leading to the discovery of meme magic.

>>150986921
I keep seeing this doll show, but I have no idea what it is.

It looks fucking cool, though.

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>>150986921
Good show

>>150989198

>there are people too stupid to reverse image search things and go their whole life never having answers to simple questions

>>150978847
Katana>guns

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>>150982995
YOU FUCKING KNOW IT!

Now where's the one of the Zero cutting the wings off the US plane?

Is it International Sword Day today or something?
First the thread with IT'S HALF-SWORDING NO IT'S MORDHAU NO YOU SHOULD USE MACES, now this

>Implying anything can beat a Chinese war sword.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQiaurIiDM

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>>150989908
Sugoi~

>>150989472
Okay I will reverse image search that webm. Then I will promptly get thousands of tumblr reposts of the same webm because that's all anyone posts of it.

Fucking retard.

>>150988341
>>150989248
A show gets away with doing stupid shit if it is good enough.

Sacred Blacksmith is not one of those shows.

>>150989908
That's a badass ojisan.

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>>150989198
It's Thunderbolt Fantasy.

>>150990694

That's too bad. Took me all of 2 seconds for me to find the source.

You could also use one of a dozen 4chan plugins that show the title in the metadata of webms, then you can find the source just as fast as you can hover over a link.

But I guess it's easier just to fling shit and live in ignorance, huh?

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>>150989687
Ha get on my soul level, you DEXfag

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>swords
>backup civilian weapons
>best anything

senpai you can do better than this

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Who gives a shit about which was better?
The real question is, which is more fashionable?

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>>150991903
>Halberds
>Glaives

Do you even Lance, Onii-chan?

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inb4 skallagrim/lindybeige video is posted

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>>150991961
I heard you speak about fashon ?

>>150983936
This is true though. The reason the Japs never wore plate armor is because Japanese steel could cut through anything.

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>>150978847

I'll never forget all the arguing this show spawned.

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>>150978847
Neither can get through plate armor so who gives a shit.
Warhammer or get out.

>>150982995
>Grabbing a sword like a fucking retarded baby is a forbidden technique.

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>>150992915
You could always half-sword.

>>150983936

Pretty good man. If this wasn't the oldest argument on 4chan you'd have probably got the whole fucking board if not the site.

>>150986805

So I know fuck all about metallurgy and I'm sure it will show but why did the Japanese only make the exterior steel and not the whole blade? Seems like if you have the materials to make the steel you might as well make the whole damn thing out of a stronger metal.

>>150993033
Half-Swording actually IS a very real and very prominent style.

It was practically THE practice at the time when two knights in full armor fought against each other (holding the blade actually doesn't cut you, especially if you're wearing gloves, and it adds more leverage and control so that you can thrust the tip into his joints with more accuracy).

However, the idea that Half-Swording was somehow a "forbidden" technique is absolutely laughable. Practically everyone and their mother had a hand in half-swording or using their pommel as an improvised warhammer.

The existence of half-swording and pommel-striking is actually pretty normie-tier knowledge among the /his/ crowd, and even your average armchair historian for leddit could tell you more about it if you wanted.

TL;DR
Half-swording and pommel strikes were super common tictacs used by knights and shiet, but the idea that it was somehow illegal to use in combat is pretty ridiculous.

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>>150983448
>mfw I read all of it
>mfw last update was in august
fuck

>>150993070
This is a very confusing image

>>150993405
Mostly for ductility so that your sword doesn't snap in half from brittleness.

>>150993405
>why did the Japanese only make the exterior steel and not the whole blade?
In order to smelt iron you need to heat the ore inside an oven. The Japanese used for this an oven called a tatara, which was comparable to a European bloomery which was used throughout most of the middle ages. A bloomery uses charcoal as fuel and does not burn hot enough to fully separate the iron from the ore. The end result of the process is a lump of iron that is unevenly infused with carbon (resulting in a small quantity of steel) and slag remainders. A Japanese smith would then smash the bloom apart and sort the pieces by their colour. Through that he could grade the quality and actually tell which pieces had a high carbon content and which didn't. The pieces would then be bundled to 'faggots' of metal which were used for various parts of a blade. The most carbon rich pieces would be used for the edge-envelope while the low carbon pieces would be used for the core of the blade. The bundles would then be hammered out and folded in order to get rid of the aforementioned slag remainders but also to homogenise them and evenly distribute the carbon content. What should be noted is that the folding process is nothing 'optional' or super secret but it was an essential step in order to turn this unholy mixture of iron, slag and carbon into something that wouldn't fall apart upon trying to hit someone with it. The folding was essentially a pre-process step. After it was done the actual work would begin. A U-steel would be forged from the edge carbon rich edge steel and wrapped around the low carbon core steel. Then the edge would be separately hardened by through covering the entire blade - except for the edge - in clay and quenching it (seen in >>150986805). The result would be a hard but brittle edge that could be sharpened exceedingly well and would hold an edge quite well.

>>150978847
but was it rape????

>>150993405
>>150995846 [continued]
This process is not unique to Japan - it was employed in Europe as well (or essentially anyone who used bloomery iron) simply because it's the only way to turn bloomery iron into something useful. You can see the very same manner of construction on Seax blades from the early middle ages for example. If you polish them you can even find the same kind of hardening line you can see on Japanese blades.

Why exactly this process was employed had most likely various reasons. A very prominent one is probably: economics. You have this huge lump of iron, but only a fraction of it is steel, so instead of throwing away all of the material which you could still use (given the effort it took to gather it in the first place) you might as well try to make the most of it. Another aspect is that it might as well be beneficial to have a more ductile core since it can deal with the stresses of impact better as >>150994621 mentioned. Not to mention that high carbon steel is not exactly a benevolent material to work with, it needs to be forged at a low temperature, might end up ruined, and given the unpredictable nature of what you get out of a bloomery there's no guarantee that the end result wouldn't be worse than what you can do otherwise. Especially given the fact that even with a blade completely made from steel you wouldn't want the blade to harden completely as it would be way too brittle.

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These threads are great because you get to learn a little more about metallurgy every time

>>150995846
>>150995926
Did you know this beforehand or did you just look it up, because that's pretty impressive

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>>150996125
There are plenty of sword enthusiasts on 4chan.

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>>150996212
I cut things like Will Keith does, and I'm better, but nobody will ever like it or enjoy laughing at me because I'm not fat. What an obscure feel.

>>150984252
at 400 Metals per Crash

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>>150992138
Okay, that's enough of that.

>>150978847
Was raped > Was not raped

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H

>>150983936
>kendo
Come back when you practice kenjutsu faggot

>>150996535
Are those photos still made?

>>150983936
Just because they are too poor and lack of resource for a proper set of armor doesn't means they don't want one.

>>150978847
>kek

>>150996535

>That pic

At least hes not wearing socks.

>>151000592
The berserk t-shirt is enough.

>>150978847
Yes

>>150978847
Wouldn't the momentum of the sword still result in the ho's head being split in half?

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>>150978847
There's another gif where is her face being cut in half, anyine has it?

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Reminder:
Samurais were horse archers and not real warriors like knights
They started using sword just after establishment of tokugawa shogunate and used it at unarmoured persons

>>150983372
That's like saying that a gif is superior to webm because you can open it on phones.
This isn't why webm are prefered just like your gif doesn't show why katana are prefered.

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>>151005119
>gif is superior to webm because you can open it on phones.

Huh? I can play the webm on my phone just fine though. Was that because of IOS?

>>151005256
Webm doesn't work on the browser on Apple phones, meaning a good portion of mobilefags can't even view webms.

>>150988341
Is that sword made of stone? It's not even how sword breaks.

>>150996212
Well there must be something about katanas if even fatasses can do cool stuff like this.

>>151005515
Not really. Pretty much any container will burst fairly easily when filled, at least compared to when empty. Try it out yourself if there's ever a chance; I first found out when using an airsoft gun on empty soda cans. The shots bounced right off for the most part. Filled them up with water, then bam, punctured straight through

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>>150996535
You cannot beat me with one mere sword.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>>151005916
>*dingdong*
>Open the door
>see this
what do?

>>151006120
Delicious pasta bro.

>>151006318
You want seconds?

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>>151006309
Heh....not bad..... You made me use 10% of my power!

>>151006415
Why do these guys never bother to wear pants and shoes when doing this shit? I mean, they already have kats, coat and hat. Why not make it look not as bad?

>>151006415
wew, that's a long sword

>>150978847

t. Luke "Waxing My Jap's eye over a Jap Scythe" Ainsworth

Go away Luke and fuck your brainless bimbo of a girl

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>>150989908

>implying anything can beat a Chinese war sword

Guns

>>151006641
>Implying he wouldn't just cut through your guns with his war sword.

>>151006693

Tell that to the chinese cut down by british and french rifle fire in the opium wars

>>151006415
Is this the same guy? https://youtu.be/hC7aJHYePJ4?t=1m31s

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>>150988714
>>150979166

Fuck it took me forever to find this but here's what started this meme

>>151005916
Jard-kun

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>>150995873
Supposedly, she did actually get raped and had her brains fucked out by the villain. But due to otaku tears, the author had to retcon it and make the villain a eunuch who only groped her.

Though I still can't find any source on the supposed original LN so I don't even know if it's true.

>>151008034
This is a myth and you're a faggot for perpetuating it.

>>151008760
It's not. Read the novel and she got raped there but when it has been adapted to a manga, nigga suddenly became a eunuch.

>>151008814
>>151008034
>Though I still can't find any source on the supposed original LN so I don't even know if it's true.
Why do you talk directly out of your ass after admitting the truth?

>>150989908
what is that fatass doing there?

fat people should only use maces and hammers.

>>151008885
Spears.
Literally anyone can use spears.
They're the king of the all melee weapons and the oldest weapon known to man for a reason.

>>150996212
God bless Will Keith.
Even though his hobby is slicing shit with his katans he is actually one of the least autistic people i've ever seen

>>151005826
His movements look cool to my untrained eye, it's not really about the water container.

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>>150983372

>>150983936
>>150984260
>>150984305
>>151005119
Fuck off you weebs. German longsword > all.

>>151006513
No. It's a katana.

So what about katana made of recently discovered nihonium?

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>>150979166

>>150979166
>>11586288

>>151008034
those vagina bones. god damn.

>>150983936
Properly folded katana lol, you do know the reason why japonese folded their steel was because they only had what we in Europe called pig iron and no one in Europe even considered using that in warfare due to how much it sucked.
Samurais lack of armor was due to japan's lack of resources not due to the katana omg so sharp it can cut through time and space, and no a katana couldn't cut through armor neither a longsword could, that's why they had maces and hammers, the longsword could however be used as a makeshift warhammer like in the "forbiden technique" manga.
Besides neither the katana or the longsword were primary weapons, spears or bows were, range>>>>>>melee that's why we have guns nowadays instead of swords.

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>>150979166
Confirmed. Diamond is the hardest metal.