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What you guys think about the suddenly change of love Naruto

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What you guys think about the suddenly change of love Naruto had for Sakura?
I mean, it's not like I didn't wanted Naruto to be with Hinata in the end, but the reason they gave in "The Last", that Naruto only liked Sakura because he was in rivalry with Sasuke, I think it wasn't that reasonable.
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The "love" he had for her never came off as the real thing, even in the manga. Kishimoto didn't flesh it out well. Plus Naruto always knew her heart belonged to Sasuke since like part 1 when he see's her hugging Sasuke in the hospital.

I never took his feelings for her seriously because Kishimoto never did himself.
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>>150969579
> sudden
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>>150970375
Wait was this a real chapter
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He became a wise Hokage and went for tits.
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>sudden
were we watching the same show
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>>150970437
it literally says what it is in the bottom right corner if you really have to verify it for yourself.
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It's simple and a natural constant. Whatever the woman wants; the time get. Name any anime or manga series that make main character wins over love of his life.

Protip: there is none.
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>>150969660
The only developed love Naruto had in general was for Sasuke.
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>>150970437
Yea, sakura was trying to get naruto to stop chasing sasuke and tried pulling that shit. That's pretty much the point where he realizes he doesn't really want that cunt and never truly did.
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>>150969579
Author cannot into romance.
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>>150969579
>the suddenly change of love Naruto had for Sakura?

There was a point where he stopped crushing on her.
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Even after all this time, the NaruSaku meltdown is still one of my favorites.
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>>150970375
Does anyone have some kind of archive/screenshot of threads when this chapter dropped?
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>>150973355
Not really, but here's the screencap archive of the NaruSaku forums when the Last movie trailer dropped.

http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4
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>>150969579
I was to burned out on Naruto by the time the final pairings came out. All I could muster was a "Wow, that's terrible" at who and how everyone got together. Literally the only pairing that didn't come out of nowhere or didn't come off as fucking retarded was Shikamaru/Temari.
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>>150972230
>Name any anime or manga series that make main character wins over love of his life.

Love Hina. Naru started with a crush on her teacher.
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>>150970375
fuck this series really should have ended right after the Pain arc.
i.e., big battle with Tobi, then Sauce, the end. no 200+ chapter war arc with ayylmaos and eight layers of who was manipulating who.
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>>150969579
>that Naruto only liked Sakura because he was in rivalry with Sasuke
So Naruto was in love with Sasuke all along?
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she earned it
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>>150969579
>sudden
Naruto stopped chasing Sakura after Hinata confessed during the Pain Invasion. Literally the only affection we see from Naruto in the latter half of the timeskip is this throwaway joke towards the end.
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>>150974990
Nigga did you even watch the original series?
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>>150976071
>So Naruto was in love with Sasuke all along?

obviously yes
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>>150970375
>i just switched from Sasuke to you
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>>150970375
Absolutely based
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>>150969579
Bad writing.
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>>150970437
The most annoying thing about discusing Naruto anywhere is that half the people who bitch about it are the people who "dropped" it halfway through and have no clue what fucking happened. Then it leads to them saying stupid shit like "Naruto always loved Sakura and was supposed to be with her and only her!" or "Susanno is an asspull, Sasuke could never do that before!"
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Anybody have the eugenics images?
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>>150973509
>http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4
Holy shit thank you.
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>>150970375
>I'm saying there is nothing between me and Sasuke anymore
>????
>There never fucking was anything
>He was busy with muh vengeance

Fuck I hate Sakura
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>>150973509
kek
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>>150973509
oh god its perfect
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>>150981872
>that art
indonesian/10
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>>150972595
and now it can happen thru their children
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>>150970375
Naruto's gradual realization still gives me chuckle.

This chapter was such a cringe to read through.
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>love
It was a crush. It paralleled Sakura's crush on Sasuke. The difference is one garbage crush died as it should have while the other got sold as "love".
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>>150973509
Not sure how I feel about that gallery being my biggest legacy in this world.
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>>150972230
Toradora. Minori liked Takasu after he liked he first.
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>>150973509
It's even more hilarious than I remember.
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I get you OP. No matter what The Last says, Naruto did love her. That sad smile he pulled at the hospital, the fight against Gaara, the promise of a lifetime, etc. Sakura was no Sasuke, but he did love her in his own way and it could have gotten somewhere if Sakura wasn't such a shitty character.

As it is though, Naruto my boy dodged a bullet. His thing with Hinata could have been developed better, but at least it's her and not Sakura.

I will always prefer Ino though, even if it's just crack. It could have been awesome.
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>>150970375
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>>150969579
>sudden

It wasn't sudden at all. She was a crush he had and it pretty much wasn't a thing at all by the time Sasuke left.

Sakura even tries to use those feelings he used to have for her to get him to stop going after Sasuke and it doesn't work at all.
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>>150970375
>Yamato about to slap her shit
>Kakashi's like, "Nah, chill. Let's see where this goes"
>Rock Lee facepalming
Everytime
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>>150973355
No, but I have the reactions to Hinata's confession
>>150973509
>The Ichiruki one is twice as big
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>>150982604
>It paralleled Sakura's crush on Sasuke
Sakura's was always shown as far a bigger deal. Heck it's the reason why Naruto knows that she is lying.
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>>150986333
I can forgive Kishi for leaving the Hinata confession thing unresolved until the end, since like only a few weeks pass during the last 300+ chapters of the manga.

The 2-year timeskip before anything gets happens though is just nonsense though.
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>>150986585
And she ends up married to him, living a life as a single mother that can't answer a single question about her dad that her daughter asks.
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>>150980886
https://imgur.com/a/gc6Cc
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>>150969579
Was Sakura slightly insane?
Sasuke was NEVER interested in her. Not even a little. Hell, he even tried killing her once, and didn't give two shits when she got hurt during the war.
Her behaviour made sense pre-timeskip as she was a 12 yo but it was borderline insanity when she was almost an adult.
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>>150986734
>Sasuke was NEVER interested in her. Not even a little
He cared a bit, once
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>>150986868
That's not the same as romantic interest, though.
And Sasuke was normal before he learned about the Uchiha cleansing. A bit reserved, but a normal person nonetheless.
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>>150970375
Just embarrassing.
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>>150973509
>http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4
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>>150986982
It's hard to do that for an autist in a manga where most of the male cast were borderline homos or asexual.
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>>150986585
It was never shown as a bigger deal considering how badly Sakura was neglected and how Sasuke never even acknowledged her at all during all of part 2 until Naruto redeemed him.

NaruSaku as a couple is awful but at least they had a semblance of friendship and could work together as a team. Sakura had nothing with Sasuke because she was, and continues to be, the 3rd wheel of Naruto and Sasuke's bromance. They show more thought and care towards each other than they ever did towards Sakura.
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>>150970375
Now that's how to sink a ship. How anyone still had hope after this is beyond me.
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>>150987943
>How anyone still had hope after this is beyond me.
"Are you my son's girlfriend?, you remind me of my waifu" and the awkward CPR did that.

Also, there was the idea that Naruto rejects her only because he knows that she still loves Sasuke which after the lovely reunion between the future spouses in the kage summit arc a lot of people expected for Sakura to finally give up on Sauce.
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>>150986608

I thought The Last covered that well enough. Naruto has a very warped sense of what "love" is because of his upbringing (or lack thereof), which meant it took him a while to realize what Hinata exactly meant (and how he felt about her).
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>>150988092
If anything, Naruto shipped those two together. It would be disappointing to him if they didn't become an item after all that.
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>>150988342
>Naruto has a very warped sense of what "love" is because of his upbringing
Not really, they just made him extra retarded for the sake of drama.
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>>150986569
>2009 was 7 years ago

Fuck.
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>>150988464
That scene isnt about the same kindof love as a romantic love though.
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>>150973509
Damn
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>>150973509
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
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>>150986585
It's funny how you can compare Sakura and Naruto's flashbacks about Sasuke and you see just how utterly shallow her relationship is with him in comparison.

Sakura's most precious memory with Sasuke is him saying thank you before knocking her out and forgetting about her. But Naruto gets an entire montage.
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>>150989819
It's unfair to compare any relationship to the one those homos have
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Did anyone here actually want SakuraxNaruto to be a thing ?
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>>150988464
It was more because Kishi is a prude, and wouldn't let the movie be made unless Naruto and Hinata were 18+. So the only option the screen writers had was "Naruto's a retard and doesn't know what love is."

Even though he was perfectly able to understand the love Sakura had for Sasuke and that his own feelings for her were nothing in comparison.

Oh well, at least we got to see them kiss.
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>>150989819
Well, Sakura herself is an utterly shallow character.

Plus, for story purpouses Sasuke and Naruto's relationship was orders of magnitude more important than the relationship either of them had with Sakura (or any other character for that matter).
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>>150989938
They're a minority. /a/ has always been a Hinata/NH circlejerk, you know when they actually want to talk about Naruto at all.
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>>150986868
The old hand-drawn Naruto art looks so nice in comparison to some of the lazy art near the end. If only we coulda kept that style.
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>>150989938
I really really dislike both Nardo and Sakura as characters, but I wouldn't have minded it IF their relationship with each other and Sasuke had been handled in a completely different way.
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>>150990312
Going digital killed Kishi's art.But this was the only way he could cope with SJ's deadlines, and he confessed as much in a recent interview.

He said he couldn't afford to keep using that detailed toning and shading due to time constraints.
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>>150970375

This was one of Naurto's best moments and Sakura's worst.
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>>150983908

This.

I like Naruhina but the idea that Naruto's feelings for Sakura was only competition against Sasuke is pure bullshit.

I mean if that was true why didn't Naruto like any of the other girls that liked Sasuke?

he disliked Ino and all other fangirls because they liked Sasuke.

The fact that SasuSaku and Naruhina fandoms bought this excuse is an ugly reflection of how shallow they are. All the pairings in this manga are a mess.
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>>150983728
Were you the one who created it? I did most of the first screencaps when they released the CD cover, the kids design and the last chapter, I was always curious who saved all he caps.
This was always my favorite.
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>>150992099
Because sakura was on their team and he always saw her looking at sasuke more than anyone else. Mebe he had a small crush on her at first, but seeing her want and talk about sasuke constantly ate way at him and made him want her because of his rivalry with sasuke
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>>150992099
>I mean if that was true why didn't Naruto like any of the other girls that liked Sasuke?
1. Because Sakura was the main heroine and on his team
2. He found Sakura cuter than the other girls
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>>150969579
he just had a crush on her
it wasnt love
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>>150983908
None of this proves he loved her. It just a crush.
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>>150986569
>All these characters dying
>Then they all get revived thanks to ninja magic and the power of talking
I like Naruhina and I laughed at sakushits but that was such a stupid thing, they should have all remained dead
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>>150969579
>What you guys think about the suddenly change of love Naruto had for Sakura?
Oh boy here we go!

>08:38:45

Fuck, I missed the fun
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>>150992422
You could tell that kakashi wasnt reeaally dead when that happened though. Plus hinata was fine before pain revived every1
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>>150992099
>I like Naruhina but the idea that Naruto's feelings for Sakura was only competition against Sasuke is pure bullshit.
While I agree that dismissing Naruto's feelings as a mere competition was not good writing, there is no solid evidence in the manga that they were anything beyond a simple crush.

If Kishi really wanted to emphasize Naruto's romantic interest in her,the perfect opportunity would have been a brief exchange (or even one of those obnoxious flashbacks that Kishi is so fond of) about the topic on either of his fights with Sasuke.

Instead of that, the manga had Naruto slightly annoyed when Sasuke tried to kill Sakura twice.

>All the pairings in this manga are a mess.
Well, duh. Everything else was a mess too, why would the pairings be any different?
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Shonen authors can't into romance
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>>150972657

She seems like such a smug cunt when she's doing it too.

>I switched from sasuke to you so you should be happy you ducking loser
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>>150992422
I actually dropped the manga there for a long-ass time because I couldn't take it anymore. I only finished the damn thing when it was confirmed it would be ending.

I remember a lot of people back then dropping the manga because of it
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>>150992268
>>150992327

They didn't become a team till Naruto graduated and every girl wanted to talk to Sasuke there was never anything special about Sakura in comparison to other girls in their class when it came to Sasuke.

Its funny as hell actually. I realized Sakura is the only girl not given a flashback explaining her feelings.

>>150992572

kishi wouldn't allow Naruto or Sakura to show any anger toward Sasuke and his actions no matter what. hell their was a point in the manga that whenever someone acted like Sasuke was the criminal he was kishi demonized them.

Sasuke was even plot protect from bad press.
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>>150992618
That's not really true. Shonen is a demographic, and some rom-com shonen are actually not that bad.

The real problem here is that most battle shonen authors have to make a balance act between actually progressing relationships and not showing too much, since many members of the core audience perceive romance as icky, or something they think doesn't belong in battle shonen.

Having said all that, Rurouni kenshin, Buso Renkin and Ichigo 100% are all SJ series, and they all dealt with romance well enough.
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Naruto was such a shallow bitch.

>Only did the ninja thing for attention
>Only liked Sakura because she was into Sasuke
>Constantly bitched at Sasuke for trying to do his job
>Let his attention seeking constantly be the source of team 7's failed team work

Naruto as a person was cancer before he matured in part 2
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>>150969579
Well Sakura was clearly not interested in him romantically while Hinata was.
I guess he gradually settled for Hinata and it's natural to grow a sympathy for someone who cares about you.
>>150970375
>switched to you from Sasuke
Yeah, right: fuck off bitch.
I hate when this happens, you feel like a cuck or a emergency landing strip: main one got canceled and bitch is all like "it can't be helped, you will do instead".
I once BTFOed chick who came back to me with same argument and I regret it to this day.
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>>150989906
>Bort and Salad's expressions
>Sasuke's look on his face
Whoever made this poster knew what the fuck was up
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>>150992878
Naruto was pissed enough at Sasuke to beat the shit out of him and get all preachy about where Sasuke was wrong in his convictions, yet he couldn't muster enough anger to berate him about almost killing the girl he supposedly loves?

NS was never supposed to progress beyond a shallow crush, and even if Kishi decided to change his mind and grew the balls to actually kill either Naruto or Sasuke, I doubt that would have changed.
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>>150989906
>yep, we just fucked
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>>150992099
It's really gay so that might have something to do with why it was accepted. He found Sakura cute, nothing big.
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>>150989906
I bet Sarada is not gonna be so smug after she gets BTFO by edgy mcedgy rival.
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>>150993053
>Naruto as a person was cancer before he matured in part 2
Well no shit. He didn't have any role models until he was almost a teen.

>>150993569
She'll be smug because she'll be getting Bort's dick as the Hokage.
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>>150993824
Maybe that's going to be the final set-up for their relationship. She gets depressed after being schooled by cold steel, and then Bort cheers her up with a good ol' dicking.
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>>150989938
I wanted naruto or someone else to bite the Sakura bullet to free up sauce for Karin
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>>150994318
But Karin is even more awful than Sakura!

What kind of Saucefag are you?
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>>150989996
>and that his own feelings for her were nothing in comparison.
Now this is bullshit. Never did Naruto say that Sakura loved Sasuke more than Naruto loved her. If anything, Naruto's feelings were more mature than her own because he always put Sakura before himself. He thought having Sasuke would make Sakura happy, so he basically cockblocked himself in Part II. "How can I confess when I can't even keep my promises?"

In the end he was both right and wrong. Right because Sakura really was that obsessed with Sasuke, but wrong because SS just doesn't go well together. At all.

Naruto was just never as dramatic as Sakura was because he isn't a self centered shit and he was too busy actually trying to save Sasuke, both physically and emotionally.
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>>150994399
I always felt like Sakura only like Sasuke for the shallow reasons teen girls have sometimes. Karins feelings for Sasuke always seemed like she just wanted to see Sasuke happy to repay him for being the only good thing in her life after her family was killed and she almost died during the exam
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>>150994420
Its not bs. Naruto made the promise to get sasuke back when sakura asked him but never did any of that for her as we know after sasuke and narutos last battle. Him protecting her isnt unusual, hes protected lots of people.
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>>150994420
Dude, what the fuck?,are you trying to pass up Naruto as some selfless love martyr (meaning some idiot beta male)?

Naruto's crush on Sakura was as shallow as Sakura's attraction for Sasuke (but much less character and plot relevant).Otherwise how do you explain >>150993291.
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>>150992572
That's because by then Kishi had luckily already decided on NH. He was still considering NaruSaku up to the kage summit, hence why that's the last time there was any relevant Naruto->Sakura and why he basically sunk the ship with her shitty fake confession.

If things seem incosistent is because Kishi was flipflopping and he outright admitted that he was on an interview. Naruto's not nearly as dense as The Last tried to make him up to be.
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>>150994142
She shouldn't be depressed. She has a vagina and is in a shounen, so she'll get pretty far on her bloodline alone being that Uchihas are the author's pet
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>>150994318
>>150994522
this man knows what's up.
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>>150994522
Yes, and she still acted like a creeper more interested in Sasuke's dick than into actually talking some sense into him.

And then she was unable to let go of his supposed kindness after he actually came a hair breadth's away from killing her.
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>>150969579
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why did the mod delete my thread
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>>150989938
I hated Sakura since the first chapter. Don't understand how NaruXSaku ever became a thing, she was an awful person and an awful character.
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>>150980886
>>150986721
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>>150994874
Because weebs dont want to admit naruto can have good animation because they think the only good looking shows are from their highschool drama romance animes
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>>150994874
Because you put too much value in visual direction?
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>>150994637
See >>150994655

Listen, don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say Sakura was the love of Naruto's life or anything, far from it. But don't try and put him in the same level of shallowness as Sakura, the poor guy doesn't deserve that and NH doesn't need it.
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>>150994874
Did Karin show up?
>tfw my naruto waifu is too hated to get any relevant screentime
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>>150995031
she was in the last episode for one scene
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>>150994961
>and NH doesn't need it.
I don't really care about NH or the integrity of Naruto or Sakura as characters, but fair is fair, and to me it seems that if Kishi actually considered NS as a possibility, he was doing the exact opposite to making it palatable.
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>>150986569
>Putting spoilers as the OP
Bunch of fags the lot of you
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>>150995031
Yes, and she got BTFO by a loli
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>>150994874
Holy hell we got some good after-fillers? I thought it would be more retcon character short stories
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>>150995031
Karin is the shittiest character in the whole series. Basically a sakura on roids
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>>150995401
they're adapting one of the LNs
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>>150995081
With her timeskip design?
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>>150995401
It's not really filler. It's an adaptation of a series of post-ending novels of debatable canonocity (the writting is Kishi level of atrocious so don't bother with it).
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>>150995476
just her shippuden design
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>>150995544
>Karin is not even relevant enough to bother with a redesign.
KeK.
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>>150994917
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>>150995544
...Why am I not surprised. Thanks, anon.
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>>150969579
literally no one had ever said they loved him, other then his dead mother when he was an infant. sure he had people love him as "family" but no one even said they loved him then

so even with his friends, he lacked people giving him attention, or affection. and one of his friend gave him what he always wanted, so after chasing sakura for so long, getting real affection makes what everyone else gives him seem as fake or halfassed as it was.

people did great things and sacrificed for him, but no told him to his face it was only for him
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>>150994874
>same shit everyday
>contributes nothing

gee I wonder why
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>>150995685
>>150995617
the rest of taka didn't have new designs either for what it's worth
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>>150995816
Yeah, but what did you expect?

Nobody cares about Taka, especially Sasuke.
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>>150995731
>same shit everyday
but i made that image today
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>>150975211
Love Hina is still great

I need to rewatch the Christmas special
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>>150972230
Mesu Nochi Torare is a good example of MC getting the girl
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>>150972230
>Whatever the woman wants; the time get.
What is this abortion of a sentence trying to say you ESL faggot
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>>150995697
Also there's the feeling that he had to earn the right to be loved. It's all that everyone admires and respects him for what he's done but that doesn't compare to someone who saw something in him from the beginning.
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>>150994961
>But don't try and put him in the same level of shallowness as Sakura

It was entirely shallow. He knew nothing about Sakura. Naruto was shocked by the exceedingly obvious fact that she found him annoying after he henged into Sasuke.
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>>150995912
Well, they did more in the war than most of the Konoha jobbers.

Bringing back the zombie hokages, reviving the 5 kage and destroying the giant Buddha was far more useful than beating up some mini juubis and leeching off Nardo's chakra.
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>>150994961
No one with a brain will deny Naruto's relationship with Sakura isn't better than her's with Sakura. That's partly why there's a ship. But their crushes were the same level of shallow. It's not the crush that puts him above but that he develops a better relationship with her as a teammate and friend, valuing her as more than the object of his affection, coming to understand her, accepting the reality that she loves Sasuke and not him.

We don't feel Sakura matured the same way about her crush, especially when the guy is a dick to her.
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>>151000369
*her's with Sasuke
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>>150969579
Hinata is best gril
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>>150969579
Who cares? Best girl won, it's all that matters.
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>>150993002
I think he means more of DB and the big 3.

Mostly because Toriyama is a gag writer, Oda gave up on romance and made it irrelevant, Kishi is a prude and really lame with it and Kubo was always a garbage writer
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>>150989938
There was only a brief window in time where it would have been decent and that was at the very beginning of the timeskip and before they reunited with Sasuke. After that point Sakura became irrelevant and only rode on Team 7 nostalgia coattails.

I can see why Sakura fans would want it to happen since in their heads Sakura is the "Queen" and they want Naruto to worship her while she acts indifferent. At least that's how 80% of fanarts depict it.

I can't imagine why anyone else would want it to happen seeing as Sakura was never waifu material and most people seemed to hate her outside all those ooc doujins that never got her body type right.
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>>150992692
Sakura's intentions were honorable, but the method is what makes her look bad. Her intentions were to downplay Sasuke so Naruto didn't feel as pressured to keep chasing after him. She also knew how strongly Naruto cared about Sasuke and decided she would try to kill him instead of Naruto having to suffer through it.

The problem was Naruto wasn't saving Sasuke for her so her saying all that wouldn't have changed his mind anyways. The second problem is she didn't have the resolve nor power to kill Sasuke.

Pic attached is literally Sakura's entire character. It's like Kishi didn't know what to do with her but she had to be there because muh Team 7.
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>>150992878
>someone acted like Sasuke was the criminal he was kishi demonized them.
I hated that. That just shows how fucked up Kishi's head is.

Most of the shit talk about Sasuke was just true facts. Even the readers had no real reason to feel sympathetic for Sasuke for a good chunk of the manga.
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>>150989819
How much better would this manga have been if Sasuke was a girl?
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I love the worst characters in Naruto is his best friends.


I still would love to see something where Naruto was different without Proto-Noctis and Pink shit
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>>151003424
I felt like this was kindof ok after their last fight, and it explains their relationship as well as showing that they are both reincarnations of two brothers. Made me like it a lot more than just naruto chasing after sasuke because hes muh friend
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>>150994637
Sakura's love of Sasuke was never relevant either. Maybe only relevant in that she tried to invoke the "power of love" on him only to fall on deaf ears every time. Even when we do get to see Sasuke's inner thoughts and his redemption Sakura and her feelings played no part.

But yeah, Sakura's character definitely revolved more around Sasuke whereas Naruto's character did not revolve around Sakura.
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>>150994801
Karin's character was pretty much Inner Sakura personified. I don't get why people try to pretend Sakura's love was pure and deep. Just because she's forlorn for the majority of the manga doesn't make it deep.
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Why do people think that Hinata felt love and Naruto only had a crush?

Hinata's interest for Naruto was only a crush too because for becomig love she should have interacted and known Naruto in deep, that is the moment when people really fall in love with a person. Hinata's and Naruto hardly taller to each other.
Naruto was at least close to Sakura, so his crush could have become love after the timeskip.
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>>150976236
I'm pretty sure he stopped in Part 1 when he brought Tsunade back to have her heal Sasuke who got Tsukuyomi'ed and Sakura was crying at Sasuke's recovery
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>>151003888
Because hinata loved who naruto was and admired him a great deal, we see this all throughout the show. Naruto encouraged hinata and was nice to everyone, hinata loved that
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>>150973509
>>150986569
One more to go with One Piece.

>tfw we're all be dead before OP ends
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Hinata and Naruto hardly talked to each other
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What do you think Naruto and Hinata's first fight as a couple was about?
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>>150970375
This is why people hate Sakura, besides the fact that she's absolutely fucking useless.
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>>151003932
But she hardly knew him, that can't be love, only admiration, not more than a crush
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>>150995436
Karin had so much potential. There was something refreshing about having an openly perverted female character and her character design really stands out compared to other characters.
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The thing that I will always be most mad about in regards to this franchise is the lack of Ino doujins.
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>>151003990
She did admire him and I think you can love someone to a degree based off admiration. But she also loved his character and who he was, she didnt like him based off looks. I dont see how that isnt love in your book. A crush would be based off of looks alone imo
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>>151003462
Team 7 was a shit group.
Naruto was much better friends with Gaara and even the rookies.

Naruto towards Sasuke and Sakura just felt like pity most of the time and they weren't that kind to him in return.
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>>151003905
Well he invited Sakura out for a date at the beginning of the timeskip, but that's the last time, I think.
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>>151003039
>>151003323
Sakura was the worst. I wish Kishi had put someone else in Team 7 if he was planning to keep pushing that team down our throats through the entire manga.

Hell, Ino would have done the job. She's more sisterly than Sakura and is never overbearing unless her rivalry with Sakura is involved. She's got cooler and more interesting powers, too. Even her side of the rivalry is more sympathetic, since Sakura was the one that dumped her.

Missed chance.
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>>151004074
Admiration of his personality or like because the other person is attractive are both still shallow reasons. It's only love when you get to know really someone, when you have often interacted with each other during time. Couples don't say "I love you" after some time of being a couple
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>>151004074
Does Hinata love Naruto's looks?
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>Kakashi didn't get married or have a child.

Kishi had one job, but fucked it all to hell.
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>>151004221
Lee was bro
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>>151003952
>Hinata
>fighting
>with Naruto
She doesn't even have the spine to talk back to her loudmouth son. She's a house waifu, she'd let Naruto fuck a maid in front of her if he wanted.
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Neji wuz a gud boi.
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>>151004460
She can talk back to Naruto tho.
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>>150969579
Not sudden at all.
Naruto had a crush on sakura but the ship was sunk as early as chapter 3.
On the other hand naruto and hinata had better inferactions. She was one of the only persons with whom naruto naturally felt confortable enough to drop the arrogance act and confide himself. Sakura never had that.
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>>150969579
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
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Sometimes I forget how insane people can be.
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>>150992422
Hinata was still alive before the mass resurrection happened, so she would probably have lived either way
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>>151004973
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>>150969579
Sakura existed in the first place because the editors forced it on him. That and..well...let's face it. He didn't know what to do with her and the audience never liked her. Still don't to be honest.

>>150972595
Which was wierd.
Because..in canon he's only known the guy for like...two years before he fucked off to god knows where to get his boi pussy plundered by professor snakeygay.
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>>151005362
Retcons senpai, retcons everywhere.
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>>150969579
>change of love

You're confusing "love" with "Middle School Crush"
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>>151004726
That was a nurturing slap.
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>>151004321
>loving someone for who they are is shallow
Ha ha, wow.

Hinata understood Naruto in a way that no one else did. She saw what a strong, hardworking person he was. She knew that he had a rough life, but kept his head up and didn't lose hope. And there's the retcon where he saves her as a child, so she knows he's a good person, too. Comparatively, a couple who says "I love you" because they've known each other for awhile and feel comfortable with each other are shallow.
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>>151003888
Because Hinata didn't like Naruto because he was cool, popular, and handsome. She liked him for who he was.
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>>150969579


What the fuck is wrong with you? This is NOT Eglish
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>>151005902
they're all his shadowclone right?
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>>151006130
That is not to know someone. If you hardly interact with a person you don't know him/her in deep, and you can't fall in love with the real person. You are only in love with the image, personality or look, that you have of him, and this is called a crush. Hinata only had an impression of who Naruto was, but she hardly know him personally, in the everyday closeness
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>>151007243
>he doesn't know about love at first sight
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>>151007454
>"How can I confess when I can't even keep my promises?"
Crush at first sight, you mean
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"How can I confess when I can't even keep my promises?"
Kishimoto implied with this that Naruto's crush could have become love. He shouldn't have put this scene if he thouhgt to keep Naruto interest in Sakura as a crush
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An author of a fighting manga, with very little time dedicated to the romance, trying to mislead the readers about who is going to end up with the main character is so absurd. Make the characters of the pairing that you had chosen to interact more instead of that
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>>151008498
But that would have been awful.
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>>150969579
The editors went "this is the most popular that will result in kids, le'ts go with that".
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>>150969579

The strange thing is that 'The Last' was actually a good movie. It was very, very Dicknesian.

There's a kind of charm in seeing Naruto all grown-up and living happily ever after.

The one problem with the movie is the agonizingly long flashback in the middle, with poor-quality footage from the TV series. The rest is actually not bad.

It's not Shakespeare, but watching Naruto fight a fucking ninja wizard on the moon was pretty entertaining and I liked his redesign.
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>>151004973
I don't.
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>>151008777
Trips confirm
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>>151008261
Anon there's a big difference between liking someone because of their personality and liking them because of their looks and reputation. Stands to reason that Hinata understood Naruto more than Sakura understood Sasuke.
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>>151009731
Definetly. Hinata didn't know everything about Naruto, but she understood how lonely he was, and the fact that he has a "never give up" attitude, and will always help those in need.
All Sakura knew about Sasuke was that he was hot and a prodigy. She didn't understand how much the death of his entire family had affected him even though she must have known it happened. She didn't know anything about his likes and dislikes.
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>>151008261
Wasn't Hinata the only one who knew that Naruto was actually trying his best? Everyone else thought that he was just dicking around.
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>>151009831
Sakura didn't even know that Sasuke was an orphan.
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>>151009890
Now that's just pathetic, even Naruto knew that.
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>>151009918
That's why you can't compare Hinata's affection to Naruto with Sakura's towards Sasuke.

Hinata knew things about Naruto that at the time only 3 other people knew. Sakura didn't even know things about Sasuke that were public knowledge.
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>>151009890
Jesus why is Sakura so shit?
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>>151010007
>only 3 other people knew.
The entire village knew that the Uchiha Clan had been exterminated, it was a big deal.
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>>151010119
Reading comprehension.
You lack it.
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>>151010036
Even shittier is that Sakura ended her relationship with her best friend (the one who stood up for her against bullies and taught her self-confidence) just because she happened to have a crush on the same boy.
I consider it karmic justice that Sakura ended up marrying that pathetic deadbeat she barely knows while Ino married a man who is a decent husband and father.
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>>151009468
autism
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>>151010256
But Ino married a closeted gay man, while Sakura... also married a closeted gay man.
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>>151010678
Correction Sakura married a closeted gay man who was also a dead beat dad.
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>>150994522
Do we even know why Sakura likes Sasuke, like an actual reason?
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>>150969579
Naruto had a crush on Sakura when they were kids and she was more of a cut popular girl type.

In Shippuden Sakura is more of Naruto's bro. (Oddly enough, rather than Sasuke, Sakura's closer to Naruto's best friend). They're not really romantic. They're just kinda..."cool" with each other now.
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>>151008997
>but watching Naruto fight a fucking ninja wizard on the moon was pretty entertaining
Actually that fight was really awesome and had all those Part 1 callbacks in it.
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>>151004460
It's outright stated that Hinata has the reins firmly in hand when it comes to the household. She didn't really stand up to her son because she agreed deep down that he was putting his work too much ahead of his family.
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>>151005269
What if she died after it?
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