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noitaminA event tomorrow. What new info do you expect for S2?
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A 1:1 Eriri
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>>150937202

SOFT
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>>150937507
I thought Utaha was next in line.
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>>150938112
I too heard last time that Utaha was about to get made. Turns out she's still not already made yet.
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>>150937561
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Megumi a s____
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New manga chapter translated.

http://bato.to/reader#e79df3511b01ab8b
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>>150940132

Megumi a sh___
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>>150941620
ockingly best girl
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>>150941799
The best.
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>>150937202
Anything regarding Eriri's scenes in volume 6.
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>>150940833
>Megumi destroying Eriri's flags like it's nothing
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>>150942008
I wonder if they'll adapt this faithfully or if it'll be changed heavily like the anime's version of V3.
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>>150942319
And then it's Utaha whose flags get reduced to nothing.
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>>150939941
what? is there already a manga version?
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>>150944648
You kidding?
There are already 8 volumes out.
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>>150945010
Such a shame they decided to adapt Girls Side instead of doing more of the main series. We could have been a couple chapters closer to V11 by now.
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>>150946257
They will obviously continue the main series when GS is done. The manga isn't even as good as the anime anyway.
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>>150946349
I'm just scared there won't be a S3 and V11 won't get adapted.
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>>150946901
For some reason I feel that S2 will be two cours. Maybe.
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>>150947131
I guess it's because the LN will probably end soon and now's the best chance to adapt it all.
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>>150937202
Anything Eriri.
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>>150949142
My wife looks so comfy.
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>>150949569
She looks so good in her pajamas.
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>>150945010
no wonder I've never heard about it it sucks! doesn't contain half the ecchi I was expecting for
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More cute shit from V11 when?
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>>150952790
Like summaries? Pics are on Magnavalon's website.
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>>150952890
Summaries mostly.
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>>150953175
>prologue
>Michiru and Izumi are mad Tomoya didn't consult them for writing their routes like he did with Eriri and Utaha
>he apologizes profusely
>they move on to arguing about whose route is better

>chapter 1
>Eriri and Tomoya chat at school, usual stuff about their work on their respective games and stuff
>Megumi and Tomoya neet with Iori at the café after school
>he tells Tomoya to start writing the main heroine route because he thinks it'll take all the way to the end of November
>Megumi wants Tomoya to take a break from writing, but Tomoya challenges Iori's assertion instead and says he'll finish it by the end of September
>when Tomoya sips his coffee, he gags because there was too much sugar in it
>he's pretty sure Megumi emptied the sugar sticks into it

The cute Megumi stuff isn't until halfway through.
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Continuing

>chapter 2
>Izumi shows up at Tomoya's house late at night to show off her latest drawing
>after he's sent her to the train station he comes back home and tries to sleep
>accidentally gropes Michiru in his sleepy daze
>she's there to show off her latest song for the game
>wants to see if the song can make him cry
>he doesn't at first but then cries when the song is paired up with the original Utaha route
>he's confused on how Michiru knew about the original Utaha route, which he originally scrapped
>she tells him Megumi gave it to her
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>>150939941
>>150939941
>>150947793

...Please
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>>150953824
>Utaha doesn't appear in the entire novel
And yet some say she isn't irrelevant.
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>>150937202
Probably Shitposting and Megumi being a shit as usual
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Well actually the Michiru part was chapter 3, so this is chapter 4.

>chapter 4
>Tomoya tells Megumi he's mad he gave someone else the scenario without his permission
>he accuses her of being a hypocrite since she said in V7 that friends always contact each other before doing stuff like that
>she just asks if he cried to the scenario, which he admits to
>she suggests adding the scenario as a bad end, but he rejects doing that
>later Tomoya is writing the Meguri route, but he's not making any progress
>he gets a text from Megumi while taking a break
>she apologizes for giving the scenario without permission, saying that she did it because she wanted to make a good game
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>>150954874
What was chapter 2 then?
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>>150955037
The Izumi part. Frankly, every part that doesn't have Megumi is unimportant and feels like filler.
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>chapter 5
>Tomoya still can't write, goes to Iori for advice
>he has nothing
>chapter 6
>Tomoya consults Akane
>talks with her and gets advice (she basically tells him to “expose all the embarrassing stuff inside his head” or so)

That's the first half of the novel, the rest is just Megumi.
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>>150954684
>Megumi being a best as usual*
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>>150954874
>Tomoya talking about hypocrisy

Uh huh.
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>>150955526
So cute.
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Megumi doesn't love Tomoya. Vol 11 proves it. No Megumi end is possible.
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>>150941891
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>>150942319
>>150944392
Did people really think she wouldn't win?
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>chapter 7
>late at night, Tomoya asks Megumi for help in writing the route
>he lets it slip that he asked Akane for help
>she gets mad enough to where she doesn't want to call him by his first name
>Tomoya responds by saying he'll call her by her last name as well
>he asks what he should do for the route
>Megumi tells him he needs to rewrite the whole thing because there is no way a girl that would fall for that MC exists
>they start reviewing the whole route, with Megumi explaining in detail why the MC is horrible
>she's especially mad about the part where the MC leaves to see Eriri without telling anybody
>she says that no matter how she sees it, it's an Eriri event, not a Meguri event, especially because one of the lines is "I might have wanted to keep Eriri to myself"
>Tomoya explains that the MC doesn't know what he feels for Eriri at that point and that's the diverging point between the Eriri and Meguri routes
>Megumi says that that's the problem, she doesn't like how the MC can choose between girls with just one event and that it's unfair to the heroine
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How fortunate, a good portion of the following part has already been translated.

>"....it's morning."
>"....it really is."
>The light that had started flowing in from How fortunate, a good portion of the following part has already been translated.

>"....it's morning."
>"....it really is."
>The light that had started flowing in from the window some time ago is bright.
>A look at the clock would show that it was past seven, the time when people start waking up and enjoying their mornings.
>Despite spending six hours going over the script, in the end the scenario hadn't progressed one bit.
>"Well then, let's start Meguri 15!"
>"Yeah, at the last possible point, the protagonist picks Meguri, even though if he was in a slightly different mood, he would've gone for a totally different girl."
>...not just that, despite that brutal criticism, I don't even know how to fix Meguri 1-14.
>"...then how should I fix the routes up until now?"
>"Umm, uh..., I don't know."
>"So in the end nothing changes..."
>For how much the scenario was criticized, I have no plan, like one of those fringe political parties.
>Did I make a mistake in picking personnel?
>Should I have consulted someone with experience in the scenario for going over it?
>But they say, "for the main heroine, ask the main heroine herself"...never mind.
>Then...Katou, what kind of protagonist do you like?
>With that, in the end I lower what I am asking of her down a stage.
>If there is something in the protagonist's words or actions she just doesn't like, then I'll have her make clear what kind of words or actions from the protagonist she would like.
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>"Umm...I don't expect much."
>"Sorry, but then what was up with all that up until now?"
>"But, you know, my standards for guys have always been low, in fact they're basically nonexistent."
>"You're saying that? Really saying that?"
>Well, considering how she became friends with a disgusting otaku like me right after our first meeting and her flatne-..., anyway, that was something I had already realized.
>Even so, putting aside how shallow that character would be, if you consider the level of her appearance, you'd think there was more that she expected.
>"Ah, but, a little is fine. All I need is for him to say some things that make me happy or excite me and for him to show that he cares about me, I guess?
>"And...only once in a while?"
>"After all, if you do it all the time, doesn't it come off as fake?"
>"Well, maybe..."
>"So, it's best if he always just goes lower and lower, and then once in a while he goes."
>"You...never mind."
>for some reason, the word "codependence" fluttered through my mind, but if I define it as this the protagonist winds up a DV husband, so I strongly ignored it.
>"I'm an unromantic heroine, aren't I?"
>"Like I said, you're saying that...?"
>I was taken back by how dreamless, unromantic, even unrealistic and unideal her ideal was.
>But, I sensed a contradiction in the character she described.
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>>150958323
>>"So, it's best if he always just goes lower and lower, and then once in a while he goes."

*goes high
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>>150957736
Bickering like an old married couple.
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>>150958292
>"Yeah, at the last possible point, the protagonist picks Meguri, even though if he was in a slightly different mood, he would've gone for a totally different girl."
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>"But, if that's the case..."
>"...right. I'm sorry, I lied. I don't actually hate this protagonist."
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>Right, the protagonist I wrote was pretty close to Katou's "small ideal."
>Putting aside Izumi-chan's carefully made character designs, he isn't that handsome, and he doesn't excessively pamper the heroine.
>He doesn't say stuff that sets your teeth on edge, and he doesn't try to act too cool.
>Take a bit out of the last part, and it's just full of events that end with the two sharing a laugh.
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Post link to detailed summary of latest volume please.
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>>150958796
Magnavalon will get to it. Eventually.
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There is way too much stuff to actually translate and I just expanded on what was actually there, but essentially Tomoya decides to "go high" by asking Megumi to show her face in Skype. Initially she doesn't want to because she's self-conscious of her appearance at the time because she hadn't gotten any sleep, but with more pushing from Tomoya, she goes on Skype. He's struck by her beauty and can't think of anyone else but her. He finally gets inspiration for writing the rest of the route and they stay up all the way until he's done.
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>>150954221
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ive jumped ship from utaha to megumi after the light novels
best choice yet
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Tomoya and Megumi meet at school. She's returned to being flat but is still obviously embarrassed about what happened.

Following portion was already translated.

>"Anyway, I'm going ahead. Also, don't talk to me too much at school. People might spread rumors if they see us leaving school together."
>Keeping the low tension until the very end, Megumi tries to leave me behind and head to school.
>"It's no big deal. Up until now no one ever cared about us being together."
>"That can't happen anymore..."
>"Huh, why?"
>"Because...I don't want her to see us as we are now."
>"...I see."
>Who do you mean by "her"?
>"Like, it'd just be kind of hard to explain..."
>"Uh-huh, I guess."
>Really, who?
>"Anyway, later."
>"Yeah, later."
>Who!?

They meet at the cafe for Megumi to actually read the route. Megumi is bright red after reading it.

The next scene is where they just sit at a bench holding hands. They have idle chatter. Megumi at first isn't really gripping Tomoya's hand, but by the end both their hands are strongly clenched. Tomoya remarks in his mind how much they look like an ordinary couple.
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>>150959476
Do they at least acknowledge they're dating?
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Tomoya and Megumi re-enact the first kiss scene over Skype. Megumi is at first feeling pretty negative. She thinks Tomoya is just using her to fool around because she feels that at this point, he can write something good without the role play. Tomoya pushes her more and more and she starts getting into it. After they "kiss" over Skype, Megumi says "why aren't you here with me?" and slams her laptop shut.

Epilogue is on Magnavalon's website. tl;dr Tomoya plans to have sex with Megumi on her eighteenth birthday for the climax of her route.
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>>150959887
They haven't even confessed to each other yet.

Yes. It's an implicit relationship, and deep down they know how each other feels. After Megumi gets pissed at how Tomoya is blueballing her and slams her laptop shut, he realizes that it's time to take it seriously.
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In the end they were just acting after all.
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>>150961326
>I didn't read the summary at all
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Megumi does realize Eriri will end their frinedship at best and slit her wrists at worse if Megumi steals what is hers?
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>>150961691
Megumi is too horny for Tomoya to give a damn about that.
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>>150957736
Megumi can't into harem VNs. That's exactly how it works route branching works.
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Megumi bros WW@
I'm fucking excited for ss2
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>>150961805
She gets jealous too easily.
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>>150960239
>After they "kiss" over Skype, Megumi says "why aren't you here with me?" and slams her laptop shut.

Mine heartboner.
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>>150957736
>>she's especially mad about the part where the MC leaves to see Eriri without telling anybody
Didn't Tomoya run off to Utaha on Megumi's shopping date? She still likes him.
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>>150962331
Yes. She still loves him even at the end of V6. Megumi can take a lot of abuse.
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>>150962418
Yeah but when Tomoya did something like run off she didn't hold it against him and it didn't bother her much. Odd that she would use that of all points.

>>150962076
She seems like the calm type.
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>>150962505
Because him picking Eriri almost fucked the game over, and back when he left for Utaha she wasn't in love with him yet. Also, Megumi knew Tomoya didn't love Utaha, but she knew that he loved Eriri.
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>>150962505

Actually Megumi has been punishing Tomoya since he ran off to see Utaha. In this volume she said that the protagonist was too naive if he thinks Meguri would forgive him after he ran away on her first date to see another girl.

Looks like Megumi can endure a lot of abuse but holds grudges for a long time once they go past her tolerance. And its easy for Tomoya to do that because she is so calm and hard to read.

I wish Tomoya matured more in that aspect. All his focus has been on the game and he ends up hurting people left and right with his otaku delusions.
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>>150962890
At least he finally mans up in the end and plans on actually having sex.
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>>150961805
Megumi has a point. A heroines love and affection comes to nothing if some slut shakes her ass a bit and has the MC's attention for a scene.
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>>150963317
That isn't it. Se's obviously reading parts from the common route. It's normal for there to be events where the MC can pick which route to go down. She's just being jealous but also pretty dumb.
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>>150963437
Maybe she self inserts as the heroine, unlike you, and thinks it is a bad deal to be a heroine who isn't chosen.
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>>150963548
>knows how much pain she's going to inflict on Eriri by going out with Tomoya
>still does it

Megumi should have listened to Utaha.
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>>150963437

Yeah, besides after a route has been defined the other heroine's specific events automatically get locked (like how Utaha stopped trying to get it on with Tomoya after she finally gave up on him).

Maybe she meant that she as heroine would want a protagonist that commits as she doesn't want to be used.

>She thinks Tomoya is just using her to fool around because she feels that at this point, he can write something good without the role play
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>>150964495
>like how Utaha stopped trying to get it on with Tomoya after she finally gave up on him)

Well, Utaha still tries to get it on with him in V10.
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https://live.line.me/channels/75/upcoming/189544

Livestream of noitaminA event. Starts in an hour and a half.
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>>150957421
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>>150942319
>Eriri
>anything but nothing to begin with
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>>150947526
>adapt it all

ERIRI TEARS ALL DAY EVERYDAY
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>>150941891
Can't wait for next chapter where Megumi says she loves him as a friend
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>>150959476
>>150960239
Main (worst) girl is going to win as foretold at day 1. Meh, I feel nothing.
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>>150967250
The new PV is godlike.
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>>150957736
>she's especially mad about the part where the MC leaves to see Eriri without telling anybody
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>>150959361
Utaha dropped the ball last volume. Hard.
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>>150967866
You could have avoided the unnecessary insult if you truly felt nothing. You're just Eririfag angry at best and most deserving girl winning the bowl.
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remember when noitaminA aired 2 non rerun anime per season
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>>150968016
>all that focus on thighs

They know why we're here.
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>>150967250
Megumi is the cutest.
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A best.
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>>150968016
I missed it. What did they show?
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>>150968424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMk9xXikz6E
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>>150968447
>not available in your country
FUCK
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>>150968447
why is aniplex blocking my 3rd world shithole country
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>>150968539
Just use this.

http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/
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>>150968447
Man, I missed my blessing fix. Feels good to see her again.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/tmkqkc.webm
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>>150960320
>After Megumi gets pissed at how Tomoya is blueballing her and slams her laptop shut, he realizes that it's time to take it seriously
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>>150962076
She gets jealous too easily : any woman out there.
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>>150969256
>>150968447
Damn, I know nobody cares about Michiru, but not making her appear in any way in the PV is harsh
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Megumi is so cute in this one.
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>>150968424
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I want to make Megumi happy.
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>>150969407
I know. They should have cut out Eriri's extra animation to make room for Michiru.
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>no hints of long hair Megumi yet

They better keep it hidden until the climax of volume 5.
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>>150969711
I just hope she doesn't look as bad as she does in the manga.
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>>150968097
Yeah, it is odd that even game Eriri makes her pretend jealous. She really gets into acting..
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>>150969541
She has low standards for men, you could do it easily.
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>>150937202
>What new info do you expect for S2
More utaha so we get doujins.
That's it.
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>>150964338
I wonder how bad she wants Tomoya's D at this point. She almost seems willing to step on Eriri's heart for it.
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>Exam is done, so I'll add the details while taking it easy one at a time. Hopefully you guys are okay with that.
>V11 prologue done.

Slow but sure. It's nice to get more details.

>Izumi complained about the unfair treatment she is getting despite being “the one with the most contribution for the circle” and that the current members have less presence than the former members.

So Maruto's aware of what people think of him milking Eriri and Utaha even after they left.
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>>150937561
>>150939941
>>150959344
Perfection.
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>>150971511
Eriri and Utaha are things of the past. S2 will show this.
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>“To be honest, while “answering a girl’s problem with a game scenario” is very painful and embarrassing to the point that I don’t get it at all, it certainly feels that you’re giving some people special treatments. That’s why, when it’s someone else’s turn and they didn’t get treated the same way, it’s inevitable that they would think ‘Huh? So what am I to you?'”

Megumi is projecting. Hard.
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>>150971807
What am I to make of this? That she is butthurt that heroines other than her exist?
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>>150971807
Well, Megumi is his main heroine. Which is otaku term for 'way-foo'.
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Can't wait for S2.
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>>150971726
Why is she sitting like that?
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>>150971991
She's pretending to be yandere
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>>150971991
She's talking about how Tomoya took a whole volume to write Eriri and Utaha's route while Michiru's and Izumi's are basically skipped, read the summary.
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>>150972440
Maybe she's butthurt
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>>150972526
Then I don't get why it would bother her. Unless she didn't like the fact that Michiru and that other one doesn't really matter to Tomoya.
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>>150972751
She's just playing tsukkomi there.
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>>150972461
I like it when she pretends to be jealous, or when she pretends to be in love with Tomoya. I want to see her pretend to give him her virginity on their pretend date on her real birthday.
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>>150972894
I want to see her pretending to fuck him in front of Eriri after pretend-marrying him.
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>>150972929
>implying Eriri would still be around after the pretend engagement announcement
Eriri might not even make it through them pretend dating.
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>>150971377
Well, Eriri had her chance and ruined it. Megumi has slowly but steadily become closer to Tomoya and spent more time together than the rest of the heroines. She can't wait forever to see what Eriri will do, there is a point where she must take action, especially with Tomoya pushing her more and more into a relationship.

Still given Megumi's desire to not be seen with Tomoya at school as seen in >>150959476
she is still reluctant to hurt Eriri.
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>>150971991
More like she wants to be treated the same as the rest rather than ignored or taken for granted.

That's the reason she left the circle in volume 6. Tomoya tends to take her presence as a given and that she'll always be there for him when he needs it.
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>>150972929
I want Eriri to take care of Megumi's pretend children after she has done pretend fucking him.
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>>150971511
Izumi at least deserved a volume for her, Michiru doesn't matter. V10 should've been an Izumi volume rather than yet another Utaha volume.
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>>150973746
She has complied to almost every single one of his demands up to that point and she was pretty dedicated to the circle, and still is. I can't blame him for thinking she would stick around.
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>>150972987
Would she hang herself after Tomoya presents her his girlfriend Megumi?
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>>150972987
Eriri knew what's up with Tomoya and Megumi. Now, she is basically just savoring whatever left for her.
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>>150975637
She isn't going to go quietly and without drama like Utaha. They betrayed her worse than she did to them, in her eyes.

>>150974905
Probably blow up.
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>>150974905
>Would she hang herself
With her twintails.
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>>150976191
>>150975872
Eriri doesn't feel entitled to Tomoya. In fact I think she would be happy to let go of the baggage. Tomoya isn't her reason for breathing.
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>>150976536
>Tomoya isn't her reason for breathing
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>>150939941
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>>150976536
She loved him for more than seven years. Hea her reason to draw. She won't let go of him like it's nothing.
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>>150977015
She'll have to.
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Eriri has pointy tits.
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>>150977250
It'll be a worse temper tantrum than anything else we've seen.
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>>150978043
Utaha will be there to calm her down.
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>>150975872
She won't let anything go. Even if Tomoya literally marrying Megumi. She'll find a way to enter his room with whatever excuses until Tomoya himself said "thanks Eriri".

The drama won't start from Eriri, but from Megumi. I think
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>>150967250
They spoil the end of vol 7 but not long haired Megumi. Well, I hope the anime does it justice.
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>>150978797
Why would Megumi start shit? She is very tolerant of Tomoya's bullshit and doesn't flip into psycho mode like Eriri and Utaha.
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>>150978730
The twist of V11 is that Megumi wound up meeting Eriri at the meeting place and that next volume involves Tomoya trying to do a double date while hiding the fact he's already picked a girl. He'll fail spectacularly, and Utaha won't be there to clean up his mess.
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>>150978981
Megumi gets just as jealous as Eriri and Utaha does, but her anger is a colder type. She let Tomoya off earlier because they weren't fully in a relationship yet but she won't forgive actual cheating.
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>>150937202

Bad characters, bad anime, bad threads.
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Who the hell cares about Saekano now that Watari proven easily beats Murata and GN btwfo Saekano as a top snaky novel contender?

So, considering the plot was completely shit and novel and anime were unfun with unnecessary drama and not enougth snark - who the hell cares? Waifu shippers?
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>>150979178
>>150979256
Here we go again.
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>>150974463
True, in a way I think her greatest strength (being reliable) is also a weakness when coupled with her quiet personality.

She wants to be appreciated but doesn't take the necessary steps to speak up for herself and what she wants.

She's getting a bit better at it though, especially now that she's grown closer to Tomoya and after she faced it on volume 7.
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>>150979433
I guess Tomoya coming out of nowhere and telling her she was his heroine must have tickled her heart strings a bit.

>>150979167
Tomoya won't cheat. Megumi isn't likely to blow her lid if he gave Eriri attention like vice versa would. She gets mildly jealous but the consequences are few.

So why would Megumi be the source of drama?
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>>150978981
She is more of the passive aggressive type.

I think Megumi would cause drama by trying to avoid it such as getting official with Tomoya and trying to keep it a secret from Eriri at the same time.

That would be a lot like Setsuna's "have my cake and eat it too" approach in White Album 2.
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>>150979655
That means Megumi will lose.
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>>150979846
Setsuna won in the true route of Coda.
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>>150979610

>Epilogue 2
>“Let’s see… for me…”
>“….I don’t really want a “twist”, I think.”

Maybe she rejects Tomoya for the sake of staying outside of the drama and remaining in good terms with Eriri.

She has been putting the circle first so she may not want to put that at risk by getting involved with Tomoya.
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>>150979846
She can lose. While I find it farfetched we get an Eriri wins ending, I think the "No one wins" or an "Open end" are possible.

They'd be pretty lame ways to end the series though.
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Threads are going to be really, really bad
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>>150977432
Nah.
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>>150979433
She's still not very good at expressing her feelings. She slammed her laptop shut rather than just saying, "I love you, so hurry up and fuck me."
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>>150979953
This, the best guess is Megumi rejects Tomoya for the sake of circle. Sorta, the opposite of WA2. Then the drama will get viral from there.

After all, this is a main heroine route we're talking about. Maybe later, Tomoya will pull something which can win him a main heroine. Or something.
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Is Megumi a sub or dom in bed?
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>that feeling when a novel that tries to be original and satiric about the LNs, harem genre and creation process and writing in general only able to sustain itself thanks to becoming generic harem novel with fanservice
this feeling
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>>150980462
>I can't read
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>>150980284
She got wet and angry that Tomoya wasn't there to help her relieve those feelings so she had to do it herself.
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>>150979953
She just wanted her route to have no conflict. A route still, by definition, involves romance, and the main reason she was cold so often in V11 was that she felt Tomoya was teasing her with the script role play and not fully committing. She was really happy when Tomoya invited her on a real date that had nothing to do with game making.
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>>150980683
So Tomoya was blue balling her and being a tease?
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>>150977015
Hopefully she'll spill a lot of tears and snot.
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>>150980457
Both.
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>>150980081
Blame Eririfags.
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The twist is that Megumi loves Eriri and leaves Tomoya to be with her.

They have lots of yuri sex afterwards.
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>>150980774
Yes. He constantly makes advances on her but claims that it's not real and that it's just for the game.
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>>150980986
Too bad the only /u/ pairing in this is UtahaXEriri.
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>>150980997
If I were Megumi I would be quite pissed. What is she supposed to think?

I wonder if she ever has nightmares where Tomoya again goes running to Eriri and leaving her.
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>>150981159
This volume she mentioned how she doesn't like protagonists that are fickle and change their mind.

Also Tomoya isn't very reassuring as he already ran out to Utaha on Megumi's first date and to Eriri when she got sick.

Trust is earned after all.
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>>150981023
Angry hate sex is good too.
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>>150981159
It's a miracle she's still in love with him. But that's Megumi for you, she has low standards for men and falls for the first guy to pay attention to her.
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>>150981646
>she's still in love with him
Pretty sure shes also acting like the heroine for the game bro
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>>150981646
Wouldn't that make her easy prey for abusive relationships?
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>>150981873
The guy still needs to show he cares for her.
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>>150982334
People in abusive relationships tends to have the illusion that the other person cares for them, but that their abuse is for their own good/their expression of love. Thus why they never realize they should be seeking help
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Will Iori ever be relevant?

I want him to fuck Megumi and make Tomoya watch.
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>>150971991
Look at it from a girl's pov.
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I hope they announce that Megumi is officially best girl and Eriri is shit
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>>150982659
Megumi hates him.
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>>150982559
Megumi isn't spineless, she'll call out the abuse for what it is.
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>>150983112
Yeah but she is touched. She thinks that Tomoya ending their mall date a little early is grounds to be mad for months/years.
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>>150983181
She's just teasing. After she called out Tomoya for that she admitted that she actually doesn't hate the protagonist.
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>>150982559
3Ds are bad judges of character. Tomoya is a good guy, he just comes off as an inconsiderate dick sometimes.
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>>150982867
But why? The guy doesn't seem to have done anything to her. He just teased her a bit.

He seems to be a lot better than Tomoya.
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>>150983412
Iori sees the game as just a way for popularity and profit. Also, she's jealous of how much Tomoya trusts him.
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>Izumi wont be part of the harem

Shame. She puts Eriri in her place like no one can.
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>>150983870
It's really too bad. Her design was so cute.
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>>150983709
Megumi might be a jealous type of girl.
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>>150984206
She's just acting. She doesn't love Tomoya.
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>>150983870
I want Izumi and Michiru to have more scenes in S2.
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What would Megumi do if Tomoya told her that he thought about a real relationship with her and decided that he didn't feel that way about her. Rather than take things to another level he decides to try and keep their relationship platonic and work related and that he won't cross that line.
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>>150984206
Did anyone expect her to be such a jealous girl?
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Best
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>>150984945
No, I expected her to not have an ounce of possessiveness considering Utaha and Eriri were insanely jealous and always in some sort of catfight.
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>>150984927
She seems level headed. I don't see her exploding or throwing a tantrum like Eriri. I think she would still remain as a friend and help the Circle, maybe still do the programming and management but ask Tomoya to stop using her as main heroine.

If it hurt her too much she may distance herself from the Circle like she did in volume 6 but that seems unlikely.
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>>150984927
She'd be absolutely pissed at how he was leading her on. She already risked breaking her laptop.
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>>150979323

Not the same poster as >>150979323 and this isn't some shitty us versus them bait post, that's just legitimate what i expect and retards to fight each other over waifu shit that doesn't matter for another year cause that's what these shows are about and what people do.
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>>150984945
Even if she's jealous she doesn't seem possessive and still lets Tomoya do his thing even when she doesn't approve of it.

I expected her to be spicy like a certain Oregairu given what we saw of her dark side that appeared from volume to volume. She seems to enjoy trolling and teasing people.

I think that's better than fighting over a guy's dick.
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How big is the gap between Megumi popularity and the other girls?
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>>150985011
She'll return to her normal self when Eriri and Utaha get back from Akane.
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>>150980962

no literally just blame /a/ and shitposters. There really is no us vs them, just shitposters and idiots. A lot about anime was better before all this stupid roleplaying on the internet about which female character you prefer the bland piece of shit self insert to end up with. It's all the same boring shit that just leads to shitposting.
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>>150984966
I want to tie Megumi and do lewd things to her body.
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>>150985129
She lets Tomoya do his own thing as long as it doesn't involve Eriri.
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>>150985020
>>150985052
I think she would be furious on the inside but grow out of it eventually. I do think the distance would grow larger than what a friend would be.
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>>150985167
She won 4th place in NewType ranking in 2015 and 9th in 2016 being the only Saekano remaining. She's particularly popular in Japan but not so much in the West.
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>>150985167
Quite big.
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>>150985052
What if he said all that after he had sex with her?
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>>150984945
People in love tend to be jealous.
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>>150985390
She's strangle him.
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>>150985390
She'd get pissed and leave instantly, maybe cry but recover fast.

Then Tomoya would suffer an unfortunate accident or get punched by Megumi's cousin.
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>>150985865
I want to see Eriri's delicious tears as she watches Megumi pop Tomoya's cherry.
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>>150985865
I'll hope since Eriri is superior, but it's unlikely. Main girl winning rule can't lose here.
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>>150985865
Saekano is WA2 if Haruki was totally in love with Setsuna instead of Kazusa.
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>>150986369
So WA2 done right?
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>>150986475
Yes
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>>150986117
>Eriri
>superior
She's second best at most.
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>>150984966
>tfw you'll never have a girl like Megumi having pretend sex with you and letting you stick it in her wet pussy
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>>150986556
>second best
>Utaha exists
>Michiru exists
>Mayu exists

Not a chance
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>>150986556
>second best at most
That's Utaha. Eriri > Utaha > *
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>>150986012
Is this NTR for ants?
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>>150985865
Megumi losing would be the greatest troll ever. I'd suck the author's dick if he did it.
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>>150986635
Megumi > Utaha > Eriri > Izumi > Michiru
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>>150986635

Megumu = Mayu > Utaha > Izumi > Michiru > Iori >>>> Eriri
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>>150986565
>he gets to cum in Megumi
>he gets to grope her tits
>he gets to eat out her pussy

Tomoya is a lucky bastard.
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>>150986635
Eriri > Megumi > Utaha > Izumi > Michiru
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>>150986765
>he gets to fuck Utaha on the side

Everyone wins.
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>>150986754
>Eriri = Mayu > Iori > Utaha > Izumi > Michiru >>> Megumi
Actually mine here.
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>>150986765
Megumi is ugly and boring.
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>>150986754
Who is better? Megumi or Mayu?
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>>150986765
Indeed he is. I wonder what her pussy tastes like.
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>>150986863
>ugly
Calm down.
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S2 better have cute Megumi moments. Are there any cute other girl moments too?
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>that moment where a certain buttmad Eririfag enters the thread
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>>150987027
You get a cute Eriri moment near the end of V6. Can't remember much for Utaha.
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>>150987027
Utaha will get some in the festival. She shares some with Megumi as the two dance with Tomoya.

Eriri gets most moments with Tomoya in volume 6 where they reconcile and play videogames together. If she hadn't ruined everything afterwards, she would have won the bowl right there.
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>>150987027
Eriri has about a handful of them.

Eriri and Megumi also shared a very emotional scene in volume 7.
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>that moment where a certain buttmad and triggered Megumifag enters the thread
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>>150986765
And if he wasn't such a fag he could get it on with the cousin too. Michiru looks like the type to agree to threesomes.

Heck, the kouhai can be roped in too for the sake of not losing against her "rivals".
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>>150987053
Ignore him. His shitposting routine is always the same and can be easily disregarded.
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>>150987027
Eriri will agruably have the cutest moments with the MC.
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>>150986863
She's also worst girl.
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>>150987027
The first arc will be mainly Utaha's but Megumi and Eriri have some cute moments. Megumi steals the show near the end.

The second arc will be entirely about Eriri and her reconciliation with Tomoya. Megumi quits the circle afterwards and drama starts.

The third arc will be the best and it deals with Megumi's motivations and emotions as character and Eriri and Utaha suddenly leaving the circle to work with Akane.. It will be an emotional rollercoaster.
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>>150987416
>cuter than this
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>>150987416
The hill scene is way better.
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>>150987528
And that's not even the cutest scene in that novel.
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>>150986765
Tomoya technically fucked Eriri and Utaha in their respective route first. Just saying.
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>>150987027
Utaha will get the sexy scenes, including mouthraping Tomoya's lips. Eriri and Megumi will have a lot of cute moments in their arcs.
The other girls will barely matter.
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If they make it 2 cour, they should introduce Mayu in Season 2 and have her become a love rival.
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I'm most looking forward to
>Utaha fanservice
>dance scene with Megumi and Utaha
>Iori being a bro to Tomoya
>Christmas scene
>Megumi leaving the circle
>Audiovisual room scene
>Love counseling scene
>Utaha's graduation and breaking news scene
>Megumi and Eriri's confrontation scene
>Nostalgic hill scene
>Utaha's kiss
>Izumi's new hairstyle animated
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>>150988229
And beach scene. That's supposed to be an anime original, I hope it does more than just fanservice.
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Eriri a shit
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>>150988229
>Missing scenes related to this
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>>150988095
Not really shit, just worst girl for solid reasons.
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Utaha a shit
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Michiru a shit.
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>>150988291
Oh yeah, it'll be the only chance to see some Megumi fanservice.
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>>150988392
In the spirit of discussion, what solid reasons make Megumi worst girl?

I think its nice that she doesn't fight for the protagonist's dick like the rest and likes to tease the protagonist while still following the yamato nadeshiko archetype. In that she reminds me of Iroha from Oregairu.

That and the fact that she's the one that ensures things get done in the Circle (she convinced Eriri and Utaha to join in episode 3, has helped Tomoya achieve his dream and took the programmer task) makes her best to me.
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Izumi a shit
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>>150988392
>solid reasons
I don't see them. If we get down to it, Megumi is arguably the best character in this series.
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Tomoya a shit
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>>150988590
>Tfw a girl will never learn programming for you

Why live
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Iori a shit.
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Megumi a best
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>>150988348
It's been a while since I read volume 6 but the whole against the dealine and Eriri getting sick part was pretty intense. Eriri showing concern for everyone's efforts that were about to be gutted by Tomoya's desperate move and crying for it was pretty cute I guess. I also forgot Megumi getting confessed to by a boy and talking about it with the circle which was also cute.
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Mayu a shit
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>>150988567
Do you think she'll use stripes or a new design?
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>>150987794
That was just his delusions. He's planning on actually having sex with Megumi.
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>>150989045
The question is, will Megumi accept to have sex with him?
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>>150989023
Stripes for sure. They're everywhere but the anime.
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>>150989091
Probably. Megumi was really excited about the birthday date. He just has to get the mood going and start kissing her. She won't be able to stop herself.
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I want them to show yukata Megumi in season 2
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Eriri a best.
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>>150989045
Is that confirmed or is it just people guessing where it's instead Tomoya thinking about how to do write her H scene?
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>>150989225

From 0 to Ana just how wet was Megumi after that? Did she rub one out?
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>>150989310
Unlikely unless they will split the anime original episode in two, one part for the beach and the other for kimono shenanigans.
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>>150989383
From Epilogue 1:

>Even my voice is brimming with excitement right now….
>I want to meet this girl, Megumi Katou, right now.
>I want to meet her, talk to her, laugh together with her, touch her, and then….
>But, that will have to wait until the day after tomorrow.
>……I’ll just have to bear it until then.

As much as I want to believe, it still hasn't been explicitly confirmed. He doesn't outright say it but at the very least its confirmed they plan to date and get intimate without it being for the game.
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>>150989360
Eriri a shit
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>>150989398
The only girl I think gets near Ana's levels of wetness in this series is Utaha. Megumi doesn't seem that easygoing for sexual matters.
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>>150989625
So Megumi won't let you cum in her asshole? What about bondage?
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Megumi a shit
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>>150989498
>Right now, I can vaguely guess that she’ll probably reject me if I invited her to my room.

I do think there's extremely heavy hinting, but Tomoya has proven unreliable to the point where it's hard for me to believe outright until he states it explicitly.
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>>150989498
People are hyping at nothing then.
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>>150989719
With proper motivation, like doing it for the game, it can work.
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>>150989777
Yeah, we have had chapters where there's a lot of innuendo and then it ends being something completely unrelated.

Like that chapter of the manga where it seems like he and Michiru are doing it and then it shows he's only making her watch anime.
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>>150989837
>I'm going to turn you into the ultimate eroge heroine!
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Megumi a CUTE.
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>>150989925
Megumi a best
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>>150989777
Not to mention that Eriri's potential presence in their date can make him forget his plans at any moment.
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>>150989398
She's probably masturbated to him at least once.
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I want to see Megumi cry
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>>150990176
Is her purity intact or she already broke her cherry?
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>>150989878
He mentioned waiting until her eighteenth birthday. There's really not much special about eighteenth birthdays except that you can fuck. It's an all-ages LN, he's not going to explicitly talk about sex.
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>>150990186
She'll cry twice in season 2.
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>>150990186
I want to see Megumi getting beaten
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>>150990293
Knowing Tomoya it might just be a kissing age. He was saying that it would stop at a kiss since volume 5.

Hopefully Megumi doesn't let it stop there and they go all the way.
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>>150969256
Yes, my goddess is animated again.
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>>150990579
He said that it was going to be the climax of the Meguri route. Considering all the other heroines had sex scenes, there's no way the main heroine won't have one.
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Eriri is da cutest.
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>>150990239
Ask this guy.
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>>150990825
Delete this
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>>150990707
Yeah but it may only end in-game with no resolution in his relationship with Megumi.
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>>150990825
>Doctor
>Handsome
>Drives an audi

Cousin route ftw!
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>>150990863
For Meguri's route he's always done role play with Megumi for inspiration. With the kiss scene he tried doing it over Skype, but after seeing how much that hurt Megumi he's going to stop with the role play and just do it for real.
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>>150990884
I agree.
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>>150990972
Michiru a best
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>>150990539
I want to see Eriri's tantrum after she's BTFO
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>>150990972
>Tomoya touched them tits

Damn him. Though it's hard to believe that he didn't get to grope a girl until the latest novel. That's too tame for a harem MC.
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>>150991634
He's such a stickler for rules. That's why he's Mr Ethical.
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>>150990707
I thought his game was all-ages?
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>>150991544
How should Tomoya break the news to her? Should Eriri find out by walking in on them kissing?
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>>150991788
He should invite her to clean up Megumi's cum filled pussy after he's done filling her up
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>>150991718
Its a new game, although I'm not sure he explained what the new game's aim was besides showing Megumi's true personality.
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Megumi a shit
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>>150992115

Eriri a shit
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>>150991788
Seeing them interact in a more intimate and couple-like manner will be enough to crush her heart.
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>>150991718
It is. The sex just happens off-screen.
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>>150992115
Agreed.
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Megumi a best
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>>150992172
Agreed.
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>Koisuru Metronome anime announced at the end of S2
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Will Blessing Software's new game flop now that Utaha is no longer writing it?
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>>150992516
Mayu a best, a best!
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>>150992670
Most likely. That or Iori pulls something to shill the game hard.
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>>150992700
Cant wait for Mayu to ntr Utaha
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>>150992705
I think it has no chance against Akane as it is.

How would Megumi take it if the heroine with her true personality is rejected?
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>>150992804
Mayu >>> everyone
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>>150992670
Iori is a marketing genius. If he says something will sell, it'll sell.
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>>150992700
Agreed.

I know it's nigh impossible, but if she ever makes it to an anime, I'd like someone like Chinatsu Akasaki to be her VA.
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>>150992516
The artist is best girl again.
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>>150992811
She'll have Tomoya's dick in her pussy, she's not going to care.
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>>150992899
Mayu > Izumi >>> Eriri
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>>150992873
What is sex with Mayu like?
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>>150992979
Mayu > Megumi
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>>150993023
Delicious and full of energy.
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Would /a/ play Tomoya's game?
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>>150993341
I'd just read the series which is more or less the same thing.
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Megumi is the cutest
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What is your favorite Saekano moment?
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>>150992979
>>150993086
Megumi > Mayu = Eriri > Utaha > Izumi > Michiru
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>>150993682
The Skype kiss scene.
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>>150993682
In the anime it was this scene hands down.

In the novels, the hill scene in vol 7.
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>>150993872
>the hill scene in vol 7

Megumi didn't even hug him. How cold.
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>>150994010
I think the one from volume 8 was the best one. Megumi was at the most dere in that one.
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>>150994111
V8's would be remembered more fondly if it wasn't ruined by Megumi and Tomoya going back from their first name basis in the scene right after.
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I want to have a pretend date with Megumi
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>>150994597
Could this be the birth of an epic new meme?
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>>150994010
I like the emotional impact of the scene. Nothing else comes close to how it shifts the tone of the story/characters from total despair, desolation, resignation and sadness to a more hopeful, upbeat, optimistic and reassuring note, while still leaving a bittersweet conclusion.

A hug can be added in the anime, but I think that Megumi getting over her depression and returning to Tomoya to start from the ground up again is exciting enough.
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>>150992979
Eriri > Mayu >>> Izumi
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>>150994633
I want Megumi to have pretend sex with Megumi where I'll fill her with pretend cum and make her give birth to my pretend children
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How good is Mayu as an artist?
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>>150995213
Probably below current Eriri but above Izumi.
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>>150993682
V8's hill scene & V11's Skype scene. Both are the best Saekano volumes besides GS2.
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>>150995213
As good as Utaha is a writer.
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She's the cutest
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What does Megumi's hat smell like?
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>>150995396
Don't you mean V7?
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Mayu > Megumi = Eriri > Utaha > Michiru > Izumi
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>>150995847
Something sweet enough to have captured Tomoya's heart on that fateful encounter.
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>>150995981
There's another hill scene in volume 8.

>Well then… Last attempt as the main heroine, shall I do it~?”
>“Kato…?”
>And then, as we reached out to the top of the slope…
>“Err, just for now, is it okay to turn off the IC recorder?”
>“Eh, why—”
>Katou, after giving me such a weird instruction, overtook me by walking a bit faster…
>And then, close to the top of the hill, she looked down gently at me.
>…No, actually, I couldn’t really see that expression of hers concealed by the night.
>“Hey, Aki-kun… Nope, Tomoya-kun.”
>Even so, her voice at that moment, those words…
>That expression of Kato made me remember.
>“Do you remember…? It has been exactly a year since then, you know?”
>“Kato…”
>Of course, I remember that.
>Even that time, I was struggling, having a hard time of thinking about the plot.
>“Have I, compared to that time, been able to become closer to the heroine of your story, I wonder?”
>At that time, Katou should have been staying in Hokkaido.
>Even so, she looked after me who was in a pinch, prioritized me over her family, and encouraged me.
>“Have I been able to become your strength, I wonder?”
>She has become a tremendous strength for me.
>“And then, do you remember…? Since then, it has been around a month, you know?”
>“Eh, wait… Hey…”
>Well… Even if I want to forget, I still couldn’t forget it.
>After all, I was crying out loud like a dog while standing in front of Kato.
>“There are no Eriri* or Utaha-senpai* here for me anymore…”
>But, Kato is…
>“Even so, would I still be able to cheer you up, I wonder?”
>Her unchanging gentle voice is reaching out to me who is covered in shyness.
>“Could I stay as someone important for you and for the circle, I wonder?”
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>>150995981

>She is still the heroine of my dreams.
>“Katou, I**…”
>The truth is, the truth is…
>Today’s Kato somehow feels like a jack-in-the-box.
>Flat, nice to hang out with, doesn’t feel like an opposite sex, sharp-tongued, dark, nostalgic, sweet, frail, unfair, annoying…
>“As long as there is a will, there will somehow be a way or something like that; I have that kind of feeling.”
>And also, this reliable.
>“That’s why, from now on… please take care of me, alright? Let’s work hard together, okay?


>Even so, it was a good thing the IC recorder was turned off.
>After all, I don’t really want to hear a conversation this embarrassing again.
>“Let’s work hard together, Tomoya-kun.”
“Yeah…”
>“With the two of us, with everyone… This time, the ultimate game, let’s create it, okay?”
>“Yeah…!”
>Even so…

>Why did I turn off the IC recorder… I am an idiot.

**: It is implied that Tomoya wants to confess something here (“俺は、加藤が…”; “ore wa, Katou ga…”).
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>>150996199
>>150996236
Too bad this probably won't make it to S2.
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Perfection
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>>150996236
Reading the Japanese, it really doesn't feel like a confession. He's just hesitating because he's finally switching to a first name basis.
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>>150996363
I hope we get a S3. As long as you cut out V10 and erase Utaha's existence Part 2 is fine.
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>>150996363
At least it means the secondaries won't get to see the very best of Megumi. Yet.
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>>150997116
Let's hope it sells.
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>>150996236
>flat
>doesn’t feel like an opposite sex
>unfair
>annoying
What did he mean by this?
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>>150997448
Tomoya likes to hit it off with her.
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>>150997448
Boring and worst girl.
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>>150997448
She's not a one-dimensional autistic girl like your regular waifu, anon.
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>>150997518
But in that scene Tomoya is stating the opposite.
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I wonder if they will include parts of GS when animating volume 7.
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>>150997448
>>doesn’t feel like an opposite sex

Man, I thought that was when she got friendzoned.
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>>150997757
It should take half an episode at much. S2 is called Flat, there shouldn't be too much focus on Eriri and Utaha.
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Thighs really are this series's specialty.
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>>150987646
Which hill scene? The one where Morals-kun was about to lose his morals or the one where he was crying in front of returning Megumi or the one where he regretted because he turned the recorder off?
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>>150999129
And pantyhouse.

Megumi with pantyhouse when?
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>>150999261
Utaha would lose what little place she has left in this series.
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>>150997448
>Doesn't see her as a member of the opposite sex
>is annoying and dull
This is the girl who's going to win.
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>>150999499
>Grasping at straws
>Using a meme to criticize best girl
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>>150999430
It would be cool to see her wearing pantyhouse at least once, like we saw her ZR.
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>>150999692
Everything he said is a fact though.
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>>150997448
His way of saying he was having fun with her. Before being a love interest they were best pals which is one of the most interesting parts of their relationship.

Tomoya can trust Megumi and Megumi is slowly opening up to Tomoya. That was on volume 8 where Megumi was depressed about the Circle's breakup and Tomoya was rebuilding it so their minds weren't on romance at that point.

Also the volume before Megumi had made Tomoya come to terms with the fact he loved Eriri and he was still sorting out his feelings.
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>>150999835
>Being this retarded
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>>150997757
I hope so. GS filled in missing pieces behind Eriri and Utaha's departure. Otherwise, the development and execution would be weak.
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>>150999765
That'd be cool. The one I want to see the most is the black dress though, it looks so stylish.
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>>150999893
So you're gonna reject Tomoya's thought/ feelings and think Megumi isn't going to win. Okay, whatever floats your boat.
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>>150999999
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>>150999928
I feel like they will get it done in a flashback after they leave, so the surprise when Utaha shows Tomoya Akane's proposal and Eriri texts him isn't taken out. Preferably right before Megumi goes to confront Eriri.
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>>150999499
>using text from a volume that came out a year ago

You should read some of the text from Volume 11.
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>>150999692
>Grasping at straws
>meme
Where?
>best girl
Not really.
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>>150997448
Megumi confirmed a shit.
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>>151000062
Just because you MC insulted your waifu doesn't mean they aren't valid at the time.
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>>150999928
They need to do this and add more interaction between Megumi and Eriri. The conflict of volume 7 lacked impact in that part because they barely interacted and most of it happened when they were in Eriri's home so Tomoya didn't describe it.
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>>151000111
Can you stop samefagging your lines taken out of context already?
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>>151000066
>>151000132

>Still not providing proof.
>Just going by "she's worst girl because muh facts".
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>>150999928
Didn't the author write GS because people criticized volume 7 of that? I thought I heard that was the case somewhere.
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>>151000157
>samefagging
God forbid only one person can dislike your girl, Megumifag.
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>>151000181
Are you retarded or something? Why don't you go ask Tomoya for proof since it's his own words right there.
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>>151000132
>insult

All of those things are why he loves Megumi. He doesn't want a boring moeblob.
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>>151000226
Only one person can be retarded enough not to read the whole scene and take words out of context as face value.
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>>151000270
>Still not providing any proof but repeating the same tired line over and over.

Obviously retarded.
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>>151000181
He didn't say anything about "worst girl" in his posts. But now that you mentioned it...
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>>151000292
This
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>>151000295
Or, you know, I just hate Megumi. Stay salty.
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>>151000361
>using a scene that depicts Megumi as a wholesome and well-rounded character to "hate" her

Doesn't sound like that to me. Or maybe you're just tsundere.
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>>151000407
Forgive him for he doesn't know what he's writing.
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You can spot a shitposter when he starts greentexting.
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>>151000292
Of course he likes her. She is GOING to win after all. But it doesn't change the fact they are negative traits that he sees in her.

>>151000310
Now you are the one who keeps grasping at straws.
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>>151000201
Maruto had anticipated the backlash when he wrote volume 7, but it's not like he didn't have the events of GS planned already.

The series is written from Tomoya's POV, so he needs to flesh the girls out in the side stories, like GS and GS2.
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>>151000486
In context, they aren't negative traits. If they were really negative, they wouldn't be part of the reason why he loves Megumi.
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>>151000537
You are a retard. They are negative traits in the denotative sense. Being traits that he might eventually become fond of in entirely different matter.
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>>151000486
She may have negative traits, doesn't mean that makes her worst girl.

They are part of what makes the character interesting. She isn't some Mary Sue character that drops in and fixes everything nor is she a loser that drags the team down.

>flat
>doesn’t feel like an opposite sex
>unfair
>annoying

And of them only unfair and annoying could be negatives. The doesn't feel like an opposite sex is because of how used he is now to her presence and trusting her (and as explained before he doesn't get interested romantically until later volumes, there both he and Megumi are focused on repairing the circle and damage control).

About being flat, that's the protagonist's perception which again can be colored by his otaku lenses. He's an unreliable narrator that misses a lot of cues and ends up hurting the girls after all.
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>>151000407
And yet you are buttmad because she was called a shit over said related quotes. Stay salty.
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>>151000607
But he was already fond of those traits.
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>>151000665
>She may have negative traits, doesn't mean that makes her worst girl.
Irony of all irony when coming from Megumifags.
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>>151000669
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>>151000764
>can't comeback at all
I thought so.
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>>151000734
>if a girl isn't a boring flawless moeblob she can't be best girl
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>>151000669
Why would I be salty over your little shitpost? Your samefagging was getting too obvious so I called it out, and as expected, you have no argument and were just shitposting. Nothing more transparent than that.
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Does Megumi want to take a step further like Tomoya or is she still hesitant?
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>>151000665
Who cares? That wasn't even the point.

>unreliable narrator
This means his positive thoughts could also be wrong. Everything is subjective in both his thoughts and reader's own thoughts.

>>151000701
Doesn't change anything.
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>>151000789
>Makes absolutely no argument
>Expects a comeback to his retarded text

What's there to discuss, you're just repeating the same lines over and over like a retard
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>>151000864
She's definitely hesitant. During the end of volume 11 she tells Tomoya she doesn't like being seen getting close at school because Eriri will see them and suffer/throw a tantrum.

Also she slammed her laptop shut because she was getting too hot and bothered by their "acting".

She was very happy about having a date for real at the end of the volume though and once she was sure Tomoya wasn't just using her to have fun on pretext of writing the story.
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>>151000864
We know she at least wants him to kiss her.
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>>151000665
Nah. Megumi is closest to a boring sue. She's so boring, but the universe bends around her. Always the most beautiful despite plain features and can't do any real wrong or has faults that are accepted by her own fanbase.
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>>151001054
>being a constant liar isn't a flaw
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>>151001054
>She gets hurt by not being appreciated despite her efforts in helping the Circle.

>Loses her best friend and is unable to make her come back.

>Finds out she was mistaken about wanting to go against Eriri in volume 8 and trying to support Tomoya on her own. Ends up having to admit it and even goes to Eriri's home to talk things through.

She's not perfect by any means, but she got a lot of good qualities that make her a great heroine like loyalty, kindness and the desire to know more about herself and grow as a person and as a member of the Circle.
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>>151001161
She's telling the truth. She doesn't love him, it was all an act all along.

She will show up with her boyfriend in the next volume.
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>>151000864
She is like someone who've found the last HETAP in the fridge. She would kill to have it bus so does her roomate (i.e. Eriri).
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>>151001215
Is this how low Megumi haters have fallen?
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>>151001054
>boring
Not an argument.
>The universe bends around her
How? She's still a nobody in a universe where Eriri, Utaha, Tomoya, Iori and Akane are the ones with the recognition, popularity or success. The only real effect she has is on Tomoya and to a much lesser extent Eriri, because they're the only characters that have a meaningful relationship with her.
>Always the most beautiful despite plain features
Also not an argument. "Plainness" means shit when all girls are bishoujo in 2D.
>and can't do any real wrong or has faults that are accepted by her own fanbase.
Read GS2 and the threads that discussed it and stop talking about things you know nothing about.
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>>151001194
That sounds a lot like Satsuna
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>>151001272
Can't you take a joke?
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>>151001296
>Setsuna goes out with Haruki
Thieving bitch!

>Megumi goes out with Tomoya
Best girl!

Why were the reactions so different when they're such similar characters?
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>>151001054
>Eriri and Utaha are accepted as bitchy and has that as one of their traits that makes them likable by their fans
>Megumi is flat/indifferent/boring/etc, but her fans can't accept that and like her for who she is
Wait for it.
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>>151001296
Well its by the same author. In part its a bit disappointing that he couldn't find a good way to make things interesting without resorting to love triangle drama.

He could have written about their lives in college, about the challenges of staying as a doujin circle or even going to the big leagues and making anime while balancing the personal lives or raising a family.

There are a lot of good plot lines the series could have followed and that were wasted, probably to drag things until season 2 could be released.

In that I think Koisuru Metronome did things a lot better.
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>>151001364
For the entirety of the first half of the series and all of the anime, Megumi just sat around letting Eriri and Utaha tear each other's clothes off for Tomoya's dick, sometimes even throwing Tomoya to the sharks for her own amusement.
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>>151001364
Actually I'm with Setsuna too. I don't understand why she had to wait in case Haruki and Touma decided to confess. They might never have done it and then she would have left with regrets and what could have been.

Setsuna's mistake was in trying to keep Touma around and interacting with them while she was also going out with Haruki.

If she had accepted that Touma was hurting and keeping her dating life at a healthy distance from her instead of trying to keep things as they were, she probably would have been able to maintain some form of friendship with Touma and maybe even be successful with Haruki.

Her problem was wanting to have her cake and eat it too. Outside of that she was in her right to fall in love and pursue the guy she liked, with the known risk that she could get rejected or hurt them.

She just took the chance.
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>>151001364
Megumifags are hypocrites.
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>>151001488
>Setsuna's mistake was in trying to keep Touma around and interacting with them while she was also going out with Haruki.

At least Megumi probably won't make this mistake. She can barely even look Eriri in the eye right now.
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>>151001405
Flat and indifferent isn't the same as boring. Just like bitchy isn't the same as bad or unlikeable. And those traits aren't mutually exclusive. Eriri and Utaha can have their moments of indifference just like Megumi can have her bitchy moments.
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>>151001161
You guys are a fickle bunch. I remember back where I used to argue that Megumi had an indifferent disposition that Tomoya pointed out many times in the story. But it was met with denial and Tomoya is wrong, etc.
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>>151001161
>meme

>>151001194
>no real flaws
>still a perfect being people will accept without question

>>151001295
>rationalization
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>>151001597
Yeah, while they are similar in personality, Megumi is a lot less impulsive and possessive than Setsuna. Also unlike WA2 in which they hurt each other by trying to put themselves before the band, in Saekano Megumi puts the interests of the Circle and her friends over her own.

She's more likely to hurt or get hurt by being too careful and not moving fast enough, ex: by rejecting Tomoya so Eriri doesn't suffer and having that explode in her face for some other reason or regretting her decision afterwards.
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>>151001670
>Criticizes without giving good counterarguments.
>Nitpicks the argumenter rather than the arguments.

Obvious retard.
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>>151001670
>>meme

Amazing counterargument.
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>>151001533
>>151001364
It's like both series aren't aimed at completely different audiences. A lot of WA2 fans couldn't give less of a shit about Saekano. From what I've seen, the few WA2 migrants tend to be pro-Megumi and pro-Setsuna.
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>>151001754
Most probably don't even read CC and Coda.
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>>151001607
>Flat and indifferent isn't the same as boring.
Maruto begs to differ.
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>>151001673
So, can we expect a Megumi with her baby at the end?
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>get off the computer for a bit
>thread explodes

Everytime. You guys need to calm down.
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>>151001931
Maybe. In V11's afterword Maruto laughed off the idea of a Part 3 in college. Saekano's ending might just be a fast forward to their adult life.
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>>151001929
Except Maruto goes out of his way to praise Megumi for being the opposite of plain and boring at every chance he gets.
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>>151001931
Given how she has slowly taken more and more of Tomoya's life and provided Maruto doesn't cause a twist to sink the ship then I see it likely to happen.
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>>151002012
Maruto gave Megumi the necessary personality to create a boring heroine. It's all there. Stating after the fact due to reasons that are projected through the MC is actually filtered through personal and subjective perspective.
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So what's special about this series? I know it's not perfect by any means, but I've seen some people who genuinely enjoyed it for what it is. Is it just because of the cute girls or is there something more?
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>>151002284
It's one of the best harems out there, all because of one girl.
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>>151002284
It explores bits of the visual novel industry and references parts of it like the need for having a strong scenario or what traits make a novel heroine.

Also Megumi is a fun character to watch as she interacts with a world of harem clichés.

Definitely not perfect but entertaining nonetheless.
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>>151001364
I liked Setsuna. Yeah it was a bitch move but you gotta be assertive in life. At least I don't buy the other two are poor victims.
>>151001488
Exactly, she was being greedy. She wanted to have the most ideal result for herself. Though that makes her sympathetic to me.
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>>151002142
Maruto never intended to write a boring heroine which is why he mocks the title of the series ever so often. He's also echoing what the LN readers think about Megumi, meaning that he successfully wrote an interesting heroine who can tug at people's hearts.
How does that translate to him agreeing that flatness and indifference equals to boredom?
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>>151002460
>I liked Setsuna. Yeah it was a bitch move but you gotta be assertive in life. At least I don't buy the other two are poor victims.

Yeah. If Setsuna hadn't tried to pursue Haruki at the beginning of the series the band may never have formed and they would have never met, Setsuna would have been questioning if there was a chance they could have been more and regretting her lack of close friends.

Setsuna made her move, took her risk and failed.

She was at fault for being greedy, Haruki was at fault for accepting her and then deciding to pursue Touma despite being in a relationship without breaking with Setsuna first and Touma was at fault for not being honest with her feelings and passive aggressively wanting problems to fix themselves.

But at least that way she got to experience love, got to have some great experiences with the band and had her chance at making a lifelong friend. Its just like life, people get hurt and people come and go, I don't think there was anything regrettable in her decision.
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>>151002284
I don't know. I came for Utaha and stayed for Megumi, but I like all the girls.

I guess one of the things that makes this stand out is how the author basically grabs a background character and makes her the main girl, making the story and character dynamics more refreshing and interesting to follow.
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>>151002460
And Haruki was about to leave the band before Setsuna got in and convinced Touma to join. If she hadn't done that Haruki wouldn't have become close enough to Touma to pursue her.

He would just have stopped playing and probably graduated while also regretting having wasted time in the music club.
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>>151002648
Design-wise Megumi fits the mob character to a T, but personality-wise she's very unique.
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>>151002739
>calm, jealous girl who keeps her wits about her but is still emotional
Not really.
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>>151002648
Also its refreshing how the main heroine this time isn't fighting for the protagonist's dick and instead becomes best friends with him and supports him to achieve his dream.

That's a lot more interesting than the same clichéd romance jokes most harem series have.
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>>151002806
>Also its refreshing how the main heroine this time isn't fighting for the protagonist's dick and instead becomes best friends with him and supports him
Oregairu is going for the same thing.
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>>151002486
Any writer can make mistakes that has adverse effects. They too are subjected to bias, you know.
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>>151002796
Name a single girl like Megumi.
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>>151002832
>implying Watari is ever going to release volume 12
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>>151002832
Oregairu's romantic development is a total embarrassment when compared with Saekano's.
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>>151002832
Volume 12 when?!?
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>>151002853
What is the point you're trying to make, exactly? Going by your argument I can say Maruto planned to write Eriri as an unlikeable and annoying bitch which is just as nonsensical.
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>>151002937
But rather than going for romance and romance drama the girls are more interested in helping the MC and supporting him.

It isn't a romance story like Saekano.

>>151002945
Soon.
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>>151002832
Yui deserves to win.
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>>151002950
I'm quite confident my point earlier was clear.

You can perceive that if you want, just like anyone can perceive that Megumi is boring. The base traits that could form such perception already exists in those characters since the author wrote to include them.
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>>151002879
There are probably girls with a similar personality, but not starring in harems or romcoms.
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>>151002284
Also Saekano is great for leg and thighs fetishists.

>>151003006
Iroha or death!
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>>151003006
>>151003074
You mean Yukino.
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>>151003099
Yukino only sees him as a friend, same as Megumi.
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>>151003019
>I'm quite confident my point earlier was clear.
Considering the grammar mistakes in your posts, I don't think so. You're imposing your views on what should be considered boring or not, and that has nothing to do with the author agreeing or disagreeing that those certain traits have that inherent connotation. Worse when all the evidence demonstrates the contrary.
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>>151003099
Her sister is superior in every aspect.
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>>151003117
Sup yuipollfag. Yukino is pretending to be flustered by 8man too right?
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>>151003266
Of course! She's only worried her good friend is sick and has a fever. Of course as a good friend she wants to take care of him so that Yui doesn't have to worry about it.

Yukino wouldn't want her best friend's boyfriend get hurt after all. Its only proper, its only common sense!
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>>151003117
Bait.jpg

>>151003167
No, but she's almost as perfect.
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>>151003314
Yui > Haruno > Iroha >>>> Yukino
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>>151003148
What grammar mistakes that prevented me from being clear?
>imposing your views
Everyone is biased. The author is not excluded from this. He gave Megumi the traits needed to craft a boring heroine. That's simply a fact. However, you could make a case that he fleshed her out by giving other traits or be endeared with her personality regardless and say that the author is trying to say that she isn't because of such reasons. But, the author is also imposing his view by pointing to her and saying that she isn't "boring" because he has the MC praise her and fall for her charms. Just as he can do that, people can also disagree. Maybe the the boring traits stick our more or for whatever reason.
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>>151003342

Yukino > Komachi > Haruno > Yumiko > Iroha > Sensei >>>>> Yui
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>>151002879
I don't think I've seen any yet. I mean some have traits that are similar, for example Onodera is as kind as Megumi but a lot more passive.

Iroha likes to troll and manipulate people around her like Megumi in her dark phase but its a bit more self centered and lazy.

Rem is as if not more loyal than Megumi but she also got other traits that define her and is on a completely different genre.

Maruto meant for Megumi to be based on a background character so probably all characters that don't get development or backstory could be related.

Actually, do we know anything about Megumi's past or family?
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>>151003366
Actually agree with you there. Authors make mistakes, sometimes they write something and are surprised when the fandom acts completely different from how they expected.

That's why we got tropes such as the Scrappy.
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>>151003392
>Actually, do we know anything about Megumi's past or family?

She has a cousin and an older sister. Her mom is lenient enough that she can have constant sleepovers at a boy's house. An ordinary family.
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>>151003434
>Older sister

I want to know if she acts like Megumi and is as fuckable.
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>>151003387
Yui has suffered the most, she deserves the 8man
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>>151003266
Utaha >>> Yukino
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In the meantime, enjoy playing with NotMegumi, NotEriri and else.
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>>151003528
Chitose is the superior Watari main heroine.
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>>151003366
Your whole point is built upon the assumption that Maruto intentionally wanted to give Megumi boring traits and define her as a boring heroine. From the very first volume Megumi's character is given enough traits and defining scenes that portray her as someone very earnest, witty and active in creating the circle with Eriri and Utaha, defeating the half-assed complaints Tomoya made about her at the beginning and establishing a rounded personality that isn't limited to deapdan snark from the get-go. So yeah, there goes more evidence that contradicts your point. Just say that you subjectively find flatness and indifference traits to be boring instead of pretending the author and most other people share your views.
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>>151003547
Kurehito just fused Megumi and Eriri into this girl.
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>>151003716
lol sameface. She really looks like a fusion of the two
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>>151003434
What is Megumom like?
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>>151003547
LN or VN? Who made it?
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>>151003750
Dunno, we know she's chill enough to let Megumi constantly stay the night at Tomoya's.
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>>151003802
Has she ever appeared? Sounds like she works or otherwise is too busy to take care of Megumi.

Letting her daughter stay the night with a creepy otaku, its like she doesn't care.
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>>151003886
She showed up in V8. My guess is that since Megumi's sister is successful, she's not too worried about how Megumi does.
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>>151003777
Its going to be like the Vocaloids.
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>>151003418


>>151003685
>intentionally wanted to give Megumi boring traits and define her as a boring heroine
He did just that. Denying it is stupid and would undermine an attempt to make a contrasting case to argue against it by bringing up the other traits and additional development that could show that there may be more to her than not. There's a reason why the gave her a flat and indifferent personality and why she's referred to as a boring heroine. She might not be boring to the MC as he discovers later, but that's besides the point.

>pretending the author
Are you deliberating misunderstanding me or what? Not going to repeat myself since you can just look over the previous two replies.
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>>151003974
>People take word of god too literally and treat it like it's beyond reproach.
Forgot to for first quote.
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>>151003974
>There's a reason why the gave her a flat and indifferent personality and why she's referred to as a boring heroine

Tomoya couldn't possibly be an unreliable narrator, no that's just stupid.
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>>151003974
>He did just that.
Because you say so? That's all your argument boils down to. Outside of the title, no one refers tto her as boring.

>there's a reason why the gave her a flat and indifferent personality
Because he wanted to make her intriguing? Interesting? Hard to read?

>Are you deliberating misunderstanding me or what?
Look at your first reply in the chain >>151001929. Forgot your own post already?
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Eriri looks most beautiful when she's suffering.

I want Tomoya to break her heart with Megumi, then cuck Megumi with Eriri and hurt her too.
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Utaha is the superior choice
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>>151003927
Hopefully she gets to play a part when they animate volume 7 in the anime.
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What a nice thread ruined near the end.
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>>151004002
That's funny since you brought up Maruto first and had nothing to back it up.
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>>151004040
Tomoya hardly fits the description of an unreliable narrator. He only thing he he's guilty of is personal biased. That just means people can agree or disagree with him.

>>151004063
I already gave my argument. I'm not going to repeat myself when you can look over it.
>no one
See, now you are the one assuming that for everyone. It's not like you don't know that she has anti-fans unless you are new.

>Because he wanted to make her intriguing? Interesting? Hard to read?
You can think that if you want, but it doesn't change the fact the author gave her traits needed to be called a boring heroine. This is the bottom line.

I addressed why Maruto would disagree with you. If it isn't due to her flat/indifferent traits that's accompanied lack of features that stands out, then what else could there be for the author to portrayal her as boring when he had such intentions at the beginning?
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>>151004113
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>>151004297
Are you kidding? Did you forget your post? >>151001607
>Flat and indifferent isn't the same as boring
Common sense. Apply it.
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Megumi a best!
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Megumi got the cutest outfits
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>>151004084
I'm okay with this.
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>>151004452
You're okay with Eriri suffering more and more?
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>>151004452
Eriri is the better choice because she's the most pure. The others are a bunch of sluts.
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>>151002879
Megumi. Well not really but sort of.
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>>151004467
If only to capture her at the peak of perfect beauty. I'll comfort her later with my dick.
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>>151004474
>the girl who draws H doujins
>pure
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>>151004488
She has a maiden's heart and has reserved her body just for Tomoya.

That takes dedication that Megushit lacks.
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>>151004512
>has reserved her body just for Tomoya

So did Megumi.
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>>151004488
Eriri is the type of girl who can separate 2D from the real world. Impure in 2D, but pure in the real world.
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>>151004319
>tfw you'll never get to grope those tits
>you'll never make her call your name as you push your dick inside her wet pussy
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>>151004314
>I already gave my argument
You gave nothing resembling an argument. Saying X traits are boring and therefore an author using them for a character means the author means he's trying to write a boring character, ignoring the rest of traits that make a personality, execution and actual writing is not a valid argument. There is no logical connection in this.

>It's not like you don't know that she has anti-fans unless you are new.
>it doesn't change the fact the author gave her traits needed to be called a boring heroine. This is the bottom line.
Weren't you talking about in-series? They are people who only look at the surface, have short attention span or simply don't care. Maruto doesn't write for those people. Somone who is knowledgeable in the series would at least admit that Megumi is a decent character who isn't utterly boring like you're implying.

>I addressed why Maruto would disagree with you.
You addressed nothing. Maruto explicitly says her flatness is one of the reasons she's interesting and attractive as character, which factually disproves your stupid argument.

>>151004333
So bitchy is the same as bad and unlikeable? That's nothing short of projecting your bias onto the author.
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>>151004530
So she's still a virgin?
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>>151004512
>Eririfag starting shit again

As expected from the worst fans.
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>>151004485
>Draws porn
>Needs to be shouted by Akane to draw

She's a total M. I bet she's a freak in the sheets too.
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>>151004527
For game practice. He will practice rip through her hymen.
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>>151004573
>Assuming Megumifags aren't the worst fans

Worst fans for worst girl
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>>151004425
I want to take her home.
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>>151004627
>those thighs

The gift that keeps on giving.
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>>151004618
>Worst fans for worst girl
Exactly you, Eririfags.
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>>151004627
I want to make her some food and get her fat.

What's Megumi's favorite food? I remember she mentioned pasta carbonara in volume 8.
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>>151004536
>you will never have a classy dinner with Utaha and walk her home afterwards
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She's the perfect housewife
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>>151004672
>Making an anime
>Taking better decisions
>Having better chemistry with the characters and less conflict
>When the protagonist is less of a fag and more successful in Kousuru Metronome.

Megumi is the cause of Tomoya's failures, she's worst girl.
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Megumi is a whore. Tomoya belongs to me.
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>>151004703
At least he learns true love.
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>>151004703
You mean Eriri. That bitch has traumatized him since childhoood so badly that he is stuck with a severe Stockholm Syndrome that doesn't let him ditch her traitorous ass once and for all for all the shit she has pulled on him.
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>>151004743
Tomoya belongs to Eriri. She has been waiting for him longer.
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>>151004551
You sure love to make things overly complicated and argue for points that aren't relevant to the specific topic at hand. You said flat and indifferent isn't the same as boring. I pointed out that flat and boring are exactly the traits the author used to depict Megumi as a boring heroine. It's simple as that.

Your other arguments unrelated to that are superfluous, but I still and already argued on those points.
>However, you could make a case that he fleshed her out by giving other traits or be endeared with her personality regardless and say that the author is trying to say that she isn't because of such reasons. But, the author is also imposing his view by pointing to her and saying that she isn't "boring" because he has the MC praise her and fall for her charms. Just as he can do that, people can also disagree. Maybe the the boring traits stick our more or for whatever reason.

>Maruto explicitly says
Imposing his own views of a negative trait and thus is subjective. Get a grip over this.

>So bitchy is the same as bad and unlikeable?
Why not? It's to a lot of people. And just because the author says otherwise doesn't mean people are forced to agree.
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>>151004743
Get back to drawing Eriri.
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>>151004552
All the girls are virgins cause the author wants money.
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>>151004794
Megumi will probably lose her virginity next volume, next next volume if we're pushing it.
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>>151004627
What will you do with her in your home?
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>>151004767
>I pointed out that flat and boring are exactly the traits the author used to depict Megumi as a boring heroine. It's simple as that.
Except that you don't know if the author thinks of those traits as boring (in fact he thinks the opposite). Most of his readerbase also thinks they're interesting because they value the character as a whole and not just the traits alone like you do in your stupid argument. Why is this so hard to understand?

>Imposing his own views of a negative trait and thus is subjective. Get a grip over this.
Negative trait? That's just your opinion. An opinion Maruto disagrees with. Stop pushing your opinions as facts.

>And just because the author says otherwise doesn't mean people are forced to agree.
And the point is that the author doesn't agree to that in the first place. You're free to agree or disagree but that's not the point. Stop being a retard.
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>>151004794
I'd be surprised if Michiru is still a virgin. That girl looks like she doesn't mind taking her own virginity.

I bet she gets it on with the Icy Tail members too.

>Tomoya could have tapped that
What a faggot
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>>151004841
Wow. You still don't get it. What he thinks later isn't relevant to the fact that he literally gave her traits needed to be called a boring heroine.

Make it easy then and offer other evidence that would support the author's intentions to make portrayal her as a boring heroine in the beginning if not due to her flat and indifference traits.
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>>151004703
>better chemistry
False, and having less conflict isn't always a good thing. Megumi has done more for Tomoya than everyone else. His faggotry is most likely a result of Eriri's interference.
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>>151004764
Is getting that fag really winning? Cuz he seems pretty useless.

Let Megumi have him, both are as retarded. Eriri deserves a true man.
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>>151004901
Megumifags getting defensive when they point how useless their heroine is.

You are the cancer that's killing Saekano.
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>>151004950
She's responsible for his development as a writer.
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>>151004950
She has been setting events in motion since the beginning of the series. She inspired him when he wanted to quit.

I think Megumi's a great heroine.
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>>151004896
What you don't get is that all of your sorry "arguments" don't prove or support your point on Maruto intentionally giving her traits to be boring. Projection and opinions forced as facts at their finest with you.

>What he thinks later isn't relevant to the fact that he literally gave her traits needed to be called a boring heroine.
Except that the way he writes Megumi later is exactly the same as how he wrote her since the start. In Japan, hardly anyone thought Megumi was boring at all anyway.

>Make it easy then and offer other evidence that would support the author's intentions to make portrayal her as a boring heroine in the beginning if not due to her flat and indifference traits
You mean intentions not develop her character and render the title as a joke from the get-go? Already addressed this here >>151003685.

You on the other hand, have nothing but muh indifference and flat = objectively boring because I say so. What a joke.
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>>151004918
Actually it's Eriri and Tomoya who are as retarded as each other. Their retardation makes it impossible to get together when they love each other hard.
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