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Disunified theory of LN adaptations

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What is it that makes best sellers best sell and flops flop? Overpowered MC? No, these can flop too. Good animation? These can flop too. Good plot? Those do not exist. Waifus? What is a recipe for popular waifu then?

Vol 1. sales, for reference:
45,372 Sword Art Online
38,885 Infinite Stratos
13,493 Overlord
13,290 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
12,992 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
11,533 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
10,793 High School DxD
---------10,000 line---------
9,878 Date A Live
7,031 Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Girls
6,954 Strike the Blood
6,431 Shinmai Maou no Testament
6,243 Machine Doll wa Kizutsukanai
6,071 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka
4,619 Masou Gakuen HxH
3,756 Madan no Ou to Vanadis
3,627 Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry
3,609 Ichiban Ushiro no Daimaou
3,191 Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu
---------Manabi line---------
2,477 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk
2,409 Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica
2,237 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut
2,209 Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance
1,843 Hundred
1,838 Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sou Desu yo?
1,576 Absolute Duo
1,493 Seiken Tsukai no World Break
1,375 Seikoku no Dragonar
1,231 Juuou Mujin no Fafnir
---------Anime Saving line---------
769 Kuusen Madoushi Kouhosei no Kyoukan
664 Tai-Madou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai
396 Mahou Sensou
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>>150853121
Je ne sais quoi
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Overlord, Konosuba, Mondaiji and Re:Zero shouldn't stay in that list, even though they do share similarities with the other titles.
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>>150853121
>sao at 45k
its good to be on top
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>>150853121
Ez
>setting where permavirgins can imagine themselves as mc (alternate reality/vidya)
>or so fantastic setting it makes up for it
Best is a combination of both
>lots of waifus but one main one (all virgins) so losers can fight over who gets more attention/ who is best
>Mc is generic highschool/young/whatever
Two characters and a setting, the rest is extraneous. This works for all popular anime/ln/manga.
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>>150853121
>almost all the girls in the pic have long hair and ZR
Not that I dislike it, but could be better.
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>>150853121
>What is it that makes best sellers best sell and flops flop?
Oh, if only I have a cent for every person who asks this question.
To put it bluntly: there is none. Well, none that is permanent. Art is a cultural movement and it is prone to changes. If there is any solid strategy to make money out of art, no studio would ever produce any other flavor of a genre.

If you want to make money, just find what you believe is hot at the moment then reflavor it with your own style. Focus on quantity over quality and soon, fans would start subscribing.

Such a shame I cannot stomach that and I chose to be a part time wage cuck while writing pieces that does not cater to normalfags. All for the hope of being rewarded with a literature award before I die
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>>150853121
>Good plot? Those do not exist.
The ones that sell well all have good plots as far as the anime related mediums are concerned.

Expect for IS I suppose but, that one was a fluke - the allure of international waifus in combination with a matriarchal society was too much for the manchildren to pass on.

Also they have good pacing, and better than average worldbuilding. A lot of good side characters - most of the others pretty much have the MC and then Extra A, Extra B and Extra C.
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>>150853864
>The ones that sell well all have good plots
You are gonna shitted on in 3...2...1...
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>>150853121
If you ever find the answer to this question, remember to go to Japan and become a billionaire CEO.
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>>150853121
>Dungeon Seeker not on the list.

Why do you want to miss this comedy gold?
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>>150854114
I don't understand how people can read these sorts of translations, I don't know if it's the light novel or the translator but it reads like shit, and it's pretty much all of translated lns that read like this.
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>>150854114
Are you being sarcastic? How is that even remotely funny? It's badly written edgy shit.
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>>150854221
Precisely why it's funny
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>>150854152

You get used to it pretty quickly.
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>>150853121
Memes. Memes decide everything.
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When is Magika getting an anime adaptation? It's pretty tight.
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>>150854275
Is it really worth it though?

I real a lot of books and even the young adult fiction at least is readable.
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>>150854380

Well no shit. We've all heard the "there's better things out there" argument. If I wanted to read them I would. There's higher forms of entertainment than manga or anime too, so why are you here?
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>>150853525
Problem is it also works for non-popular anime/ln/manga. There's like a billion of shows that follow your recipe but never make it.
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>>150854380
Hey if you need entire paragraphs to know whats happening, than you never really understood what reading is all about.
Know the setting.
Find the key words.
Use your imagination.
Laugh at how dumb it is and how it can get away with it.
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>>150853121
>dxd below edge shit, unfunny parody shit, infinite shit, and vidya shit

This is suffering.
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>>150856703

>liking harem shit
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>>150853121
Looking at OPs list, nips hate LN adaptations that are rushed as fuck and prefer shit that has enjoyable characters.
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>>150853121
The answer is probably initial following. LNs that were already doing well sell anime well. Everything else is sold on the merit of the actual anime. This leads to a lot of shitty anime that doesn't do well.
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How profitable is it to put the plot summary in the title instead of on the back?
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>>150853121
SAO : shitty mary sue MC with an unrealistic harem
IS : gay MC with unrealistic harem
Overlord : Isekai with OP MC and harem
Mahouka : mary sue MC with harem
Kono suba : Isekai, instantly get harems in first chapter
Re:zero : Isekai, instantly gets love interest in first chapter
DxD : Mary sue MC with Harem

I could go on and on but you get the idea.

Does this ranking list really apply for the whole of Japan? Its a bit hard to believe. Where are the LNs that don't have any of these elements? I'm talking about stuff like Kino's Journey or Spice and Wolf. Everything on that list looks like a harem of some kind with the possible exception of Re:Zero.

Are there literally no romance, detective, battle shounen or horror LNs? Or does that list simply exclude every genre except harems?
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It has to do with world building. Making a setting that the audience will want to be a part of. Make the audience invest time thinking about the world, the setting, the characters. Not just creating a superficial experience, but one where dialogue can be facilitated.
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>>150853121
Where are sales of Kino's Journey or Spice and Wolf? Why did yo limiet only to these with young male MC?
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>>150858764
>Kono suba : Isekai, instantly get harems in first chapter
Wrong.
>DxD : Mary sue MC with Harem
>Mary sue
Retard
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>>150853121
Simply have trendsetting potential. IS set the battle harem trend, and we all know what trend SAO set. As to how to be a trendsetter, that's harder to explain. Usually it's a right place at the right time thing.

LNs already popular even before it got an anime like Mahouka help too.
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>>150858062
They took lessons from the mafter.
>The moft excellent Hiftorie of the Merchant of Venice. VVith the extreame crueltie of Shyloke the Iewe towards the fayd Merchant, in cutting a iuft pound of his flefh and the obtayning of Portia by the choyfe of three chefts.
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>>150853121
It just has to have an interesting, and well executed premise. Something new and fresh.
Also cute girls.
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>>150858764
>Or does that list simply exclude every genre except harems?
Here are adaptations from 2013 up till now.
46,155 Monogatari Series Second Season
27,568 Infinite Stratos 2
22,733 Sword Art Online II
20,492 Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai.
18,260 To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S
15,031 Hataraku Maou-sama!
13,493 Overlord
13,290 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
13,567 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru.
13,281 Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata
12,992 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
11,533 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
11,076 No Game No Life
9,878 Date A Live
9,676 High School DxD New
8,374 Amagi Brilliant Park
7,562 Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru
7,464 Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai! Ren
6,954 Strike the Blood
6,838 Kyoukai no Kanata
6,431 Shinmai Maou no Testament
6,243 Machine Doll wa Kizutsukanai
6,071 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka
5,943 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
5,072 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W
4,619 Masou Gakuen HxH
4,402 Log Horizon
4,029 Nourin
3,756 Madan no Ou to Vanadis
3,627 Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry
3,191 Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu
3,093 Rokujouma no Shinryakusha!?
2,952 Musaigen no Phantom World
2,918 Tokyo Ravens
2,710 Maoyuu Maou Yuusha
2,704 Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta?
2,653 Shimoneta to Iu Gainen ga Sonzai Shinai Taikutsu na Sekai
2,598 Yuusha ni Narenakatta Ore wa Shibushibu Shuushoku wo Ketsui Shimashita.
2,477 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk
2,237 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut
2,209 Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance
1,922 Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de
1,851 Hitsugi no Chaika
1,843 Hundred
1,838 Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sou Desu yo?
1,829 Outbreak Company
1,708 Sasami-san@Ganbaranai
1,596 Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Bride
1,576 Absolute Duo
1,564 Kanojo ga Flag wa Oraretara
1,493 Seiken Tsukai no World Break
1,388 Ore no Nounai Sentakushi ga, Gakuen Love Come wo Zenryoku de jama Shiteiru
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>>150862232
1,375 Seikoku no Dragonar
1,306 Ryuugajou Nanana no Maizoukin
1,231 Juuou Mujin no Fafnir
1,227 Golden Time
769 Kuusen Madoushi Kouhosei no Kyoukan
664 Tai-Madou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai
656 Kami-sama no Inai Nichiyoubi
638 Rokka no Yuusha
626 Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru
618 Momokyun Sword
455 Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyo
396 Mahou Sensou
292 Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin
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>>150853121

I honestly have no fucking earthly idea at this point. That's a question you'd have to ask the Japanese otaku that actually buy this stuff at this point
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>>150863228
Even then some of the charts do not account for digital sales, which is what apparently everyone buys.
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>>150856703
Well DxD is gonna get a 4th season so it doesn't matter.
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>>150863726
Please, don't remind how that got a new season over DAL.
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>>150862268
>396 Mahou Sensou
>292 Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin
madhouse strong
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>>150854431
Mostly because the recipe isn't a recipe.
Its a standard bar where if you are below it, its shit.
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