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>>150850011
Just an FYI but the other one isn't even at bump limit yet.
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>>150850033
gtfo
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>Top Girl is dead
>people still watch this trash
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>>150850159
More best girls in later arcs that also die :^)
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what was her name again?
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>>150850238
Annihilation Annie.
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where i can find the calendar?
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>>150850073
ur an idiot
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>>150850306
H-how rude
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What would Flame Flamey's stats look like? inb4 bullying 5/5
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>>150850159
>not watching to witness Autiswim's brutal murder
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>>150850304
Who would she ship him with though? Fav?
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I've been losing my shit every time somebody say Hardgore Alice's name because it reminded me of HG.

I'm glad she's dead.
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Bring back Alice-chan.
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>>150850557
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>>150850559
Wait for a necromancer magic girl. Then we get the joy watching whatever remains of SW psyche completely crumble. Doesn't that sound fun?
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>>150850238

Apocalypse Amy
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>>150850635
>revives elf
>elf tells Snow how she raped and killed Boipucelle
>berserk Snow
Fund it.
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>>150850688
Burn it
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>>150850688
DUHLIT ZEES!!!
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>>150850599
If there's any ant around that can read that please translate.
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give me the novels link please
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>>150850760
Where's Flamey when we need her.
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>>150850599
I knew I wasn't the only one.
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>>150850635
>necromancer
>enslaves dead magical girls in her army of zombies
Please no.
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>>150850740
>Not revive elf in Boipucelle's body.
>Dark Boipucelle with morals off
>Berserk Snow White
>Berserk SW vs Cranberry Pucelle.
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>>150851035
Shufflin is the closest thing we have, tho
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>>150850159
>Top Girl is dead
???
Are we watching the same show?
Best girl is still alive and well m8
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>>150851144
Kill yourself. Swim is the worst.
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>>150851144
Topp Speedo was the best girl. You posted a piece of shit.
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>>150851269
>You posted a piece of shit.
>ShitShit
Really makes you think.
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>>150851144
Not only did you choose swim the worst girl, but you posted a picture where she isn't even a loli but a fat cow. How does it feel having the literal worst taste?
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>>150851144
>Best girl is still alive and well m8
You are right. NEMURIN LIVES IN DEATH!
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>>150851218
>Those dead eyes
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>>150851144
She killed Alice. SwimSwim is instantly bottom and lowest of all.
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>>150851487
Nah. Keek exist
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>>150851627
Can mahou shoujos get married?
And if they did, wouldn't they need to hire the services of Styler whatsherface to make them a wedding dress? That chick's got an insane monopoly.
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>>150851627
La Pucelle lucked out in Nemurin Heaven
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Can this be the new Madoka? I need a new Madoka.
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>>150852218
No. This is Batman and Raiden: the origin.
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>>150852218
It is literally the opposite of Madoka.
Madoka is a story about a girl lusting after another girl and doing everything to get her back. This here, the girl just went full JUSTICE disregarding human relationship.
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>>150852304
So it's basically the same as Sayaka's storyline except she doesn't become a witch and she gets to continually justice things to death?
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>>150852327

Basically, but with less NTR
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>>150852327
No.
She doesnt have muh violin boy holding her back
She has a no kill policy
She continually stick to the idealized mahou shoujo found in precure and etc.
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>>150852327
>trying to compare sayaka to Snow

This is dumb.
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Spoiler from Peaceful Days

<トップスピード・オブ・トップスピード>


マジカロイド44が持つ「一日1つ、未来の道具をランダムで使える」という能力。この日は偶然「魔法の箒性能強化マシーン」というピンポイントなアイテムが出てきてしまいました。

魔法の箒と言えば、トップスピードの「ラピッドスワロー」がこれに当たります。マジカロイド44がこのアイテムをトップスピードに売りつけてリップルも含めた3人で空を爆走するお話。
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>>150852636
<魔法少女のお約束>

魔法少女大好きなスノーホワイトが登場シーンの決めポーズと決め台詞を考え、オリジナルの決めポーズを考えるのが魔法少女たちの間で流行した――というお話。

(カラミティミラクルクルクルリン! 魔法のガンマン、カラミティ・メアリにな~れ!)
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>>150851581

This anon knows the Truth.
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>>150850635
Even if no one brought back Boipucelle I can see the universe itself bringing her (him?) back just to fuck with SW
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>>150852755
Sasuga Rabbit foot.
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<GUNS OR ROSES>

「魔法少女育成計画」というソーシャルゲームを利用して魔法少女に適した人を見つけるという試みが行われ始めた頃。
クラムベリーはこの方法に疑問を持っていました。

N市では第1号となるカラミティ・メアリとクラムベリーのやり取りが描かれたお話。やっぱり2人とも強い!


Traslate pls
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>>150852755
>Side stories happen
>Drama CD's happen
>Dead popular characters return
>They're just used to give you another gut punch and torment Snow White more
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>>150852828
>Zombie Boipucelle can't be killed by anyone other than SW
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I wanted to see Top Speed's husband be completely dumbfounded and terrified that his pregnant wife was dead on the balcony for a reason he'll never understand. Lerche a shit.
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>>150852919

> Wife dead on balcony with cutting wound to the back.
> Husband not being blamed for it.

Dayum, magical girls be stupid. Or maybe he gets sentenced to death and joins his wife sooner rather than later, in that case magical girls be cruel genius.
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>>150852218
Madoka is a deconstruction of the genre with a mascot that doesn't think he's doing anything wrong and is just trying to keep the universe in balance.
MGRP is a magical girl themed Battle Royal story where the mascot is actually just a bloodthirsty psychopath that likes watching people kill each other cause it gives him a boner.
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>>150852131

They can actually take off their MG clothes and wear normal ones.

Pucelle did this.
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>>150852919
I thought of this too, but then I realized the guaranteed bad acting and directing would just take me out of the scene. There's no way they could have done such a moment correctly so it's better that they skipped it.
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>>150852966
>MGRP is a magical girl themed Battle Royal

Only the first arc. Every arc is different.
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>>150852919
There is actually a damage control team. You know like in MiB? The public memories get wiped.
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>>150853029
They only learned after Fav was destroyed though. That's like a day or two after Top Speed was delivered to her husband.
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I want to MARRY Marika!
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>>150853097
Wow she's tiny
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>>150851035
Funny enough just before QUEENS came out there was a leaked fake spoiler that Swim Swim and Nokko-chan had returned as lifeless zombies.
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>>150853170
Apparently she became an MG in kindergarten and fought her administrator until she passed out.
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GUNS OR ROSES・・・・・・???、カラミティ・メアリ
――なんで上から見下ろしてんだ?――
最も危険な二人の魔法使いの邂逅の話でしたが、本当にヤバイな。
また、”可能性”を広げたのも彼女なわけで・・・・・・ある意味での始まりの物語だったのかもしれないですね。

shit
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>>150851144
Swim Swim is the best. Top Speed was 3rd but unlike other fags I ain't dropping Swim Swim's rank just cause she killed Top Speed. Her killing spree is the best and she needs to kill even more waifus.
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>>150853613
>change of pressure in a narrow region traveling through a medium

Anon, what exactly do you think soundwaves are? They're literally waves of pressure.
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>>150852796
Basically says that it's a great pleasure to cum inside a magical girl.
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Ruler was the best, as well as had best design.
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>>150853263
I´m fuckin mad
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I'm still mad at Deluge
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>>150851254
>>150851269
>>150851487
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>>150850011
I just marathoned the anime and liked it so. Should I read the LN?
So far by monitoring the threads I know that Pechika is best girl and we love rainbows.
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>>150853737
Are implying every soundwave is a shockwave?
I'm merely pointing it out for cranberryfags, that she had no chance from the beginning.
>>150853664
Only with sold objects and when generating a sound of certain frequency.
For the human body you would need to generate a frequency similar to that of Larmor frequency.

To counter swimX2 ability, you would need a strong magnetic field, or intense heat/cold source.
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>>150850860
Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BwUphuy8AsxEVDJfaXJrcHdMVU0
Epub
https://mega.nz/#F!DAcRDIbD!4LN0hGxRYH50xbB5GFSV0w
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>>150853919
Yes. The LN is simple but surprisingly good. It's like one of those serious cape comic but with magical girls. Oh and Keek is always the worst girl no matter.
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>>150853979
Nice.
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I wish keek was still alive
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>>150854050
Fuck off Keek.
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Wasn't there a manga as well as the light novel? I can't seem to find it anywhere if there is
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>>150854050

So you could slowly torture her to death with sharp objects?
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Daily reminder that Deluge is going to kill SW
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>>150854103
So she could see gal with sw
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>>150854104
shut up!
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>>150854104
She got her ass burned.
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>>150853989
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>>150850159
>why are people still watching a show now that my personal favourite character is dead

Gee I couldn't tell you
Maybe it's because Swim2 is GOAT
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>>150854160
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>>150854104
Hello Uluru.
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>>150854160
Why is Winterprison such a chubby chaser?
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>>150854183
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>>150853919
>and we love rainbows.
delet this
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>>150853919
>pechika is best girl

yes
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>keek is still alive
>She see fal together with sw
>I get to say 'keek? More like kek xDDD'
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>>150854225
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>>150854306
Rain Poo a shit.
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>>150854342
I take delight in the knowledge that she was made to messily slaughter her best friend.
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>>150854306
Why is Foreign Affairs full of jobbers?
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>>150850688
Should have gone for Sister Nana for the maximum meta irony with that face
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>>150854334
Fuck i can´t find the others images
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>having fun with novel and threads
>Decide to check a Madoka thread since the theme is similar
>Remind myself why I kept all the distance I could from that garbage
Glad we won't ever get to that level
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Nips are saying that Guns or Roses is shit
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>>150854797
Guns n' roses has been shit since 1990.
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>Lazuline has a intelligence stat of 2 yet her Intuition is 5/5
Shouldn't her intelligence be at least 3?
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>>150854830
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>>150854102
I am pretty sure they are somewhere out ther. The manga is much more brutal since they dont have to care about the TV moral standard.
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https://twitter.com/Sudachi_C/status/793113550055104512
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>>150854342
>>150854370
Don't insult Kaori-chan, she's my best Limited.
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>>150854797
I might guess that Cranberry and CM didn't actually fight in Guns n Roses which might make fans of the series dissapointed.
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>>150854979
Oh is that so? fuck I was expected them to fight too
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>>150850599
I don't know what's going on in this image but it made me laugh pretty hard.
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>>150854979
>Cranberry and CM didn't actually fight
WHYYYY
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>>150855105
I was actually kind of expecting this.

Let's be real, Cran didn't give a shit about CM whether in the LNs or the Anime
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>>150853919
Yes.
Pechika a cute. Pot as a silly hat? Fucking genius.
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>>150855189
So what is the point of this story
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>>150854979

But if they fought CM would just die like a bitch.
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>>150855197
The image size triggered me.
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>>150855235
Fanservice, throwing a bone to the people mourning their dead waifus.
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>>150855252
CM sure was annoying,so i wonder why she can have meetings with Cranberry and stay alive after that.
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I hope this doesn't sell well. These blatant, poorly disguised Madoka spinoffs are trash.

This is even worse than Yuuki Yuna, which is an achievement.
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>>150855348
The designs are top tier though.
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>>150855348
>madoka spinoff
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>>150855348
Off with your head!
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>>150855348
It is actually a 2hu spinoff m8. Marisa's mom is actually in the anime.
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>>150855445
>was
ftfy
haha, ow. I made myself sad
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>>150855348
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>>150855507
Suffer with me
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>>150855524
>couldn't protect that smile
It isn't fair.
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>>150855348
>This is even worse than Yuuki Yuna

Nah, it still isn't as bad as yucky tuna.
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>>150855332
Sempai and Kouhai ~
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>>150855699
Yuuki Yuna doesn't have the guts to kill off the characters. Would have been better if all of them bite the dust except for Karin. Then we have S2 starting it off with a blind Karin training a new bunch of mahou shoujo. Episode12 was a mistake.
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>>150855790
>S2, now starring a deaf, blind girl missing an arm and a leg

I still remember the threads calling her useless and saying she wouldn't ever Mankai
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I will complete Jokers today. I know translator-kun translated some SS from Episode Phi. I guess the ones translated can be read even if Aces is not completed?
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Can anyone listed all survivor from each arc?
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So which magical girl would you raise?
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>>150856019

Snow White, Ripple

Pfle, Clantail, Shadow Gale

Turtle, 7753, Ripple, Mana, Phytie

Snow White, Marika, Deluge
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>>150856019
Unmarked:Ripple, SW

Restart:Shadow Gale, Pfle, Clantail

Limited:7753, Ripple, Mana, Mei, Pythie

Jokers:Deluge, SW, Marika, Ripple / Stuntchika, Shufflin (?), Grim Heart (?)
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>>150856090
For Jokers, I know Deluge got out and Snow White maybe got saved by Phytie. So, How Marika got out? She did got impaled by Shufflin, right? And I'm pretty sure Ripple got pulled out first. Did she got pulled by Phytie too or it's simply Grim Heart just retreat from the lab.
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>>150856160
Do we know if her internal organs other than bones and maybe like outside human features works like a human?

Leonetta can get her arm chopped off by Ripple and just reattach it due to being a literal puppet.

Since Marika's a plant, she might not have a human heart, which could explain how she takes so much punishment and goes on as long as there's sunlight and water.
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>>150856160
It wasn't mentioned how she escaped, she probably just waited around until the investigation team found her. She survived because her healing powers are strong due to her being a plant and having the fruit
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>>150856160

Pretty sure Pythie pulled both of them out. She was observing Cherry all the way and she died next to Marika. There is no way Grim Heart would have let them walk out alive.
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>>150856160
If anything, since the range of Fal is 200m I believe both of them got saved by going to Fal's pocked dimension.
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>>150854963
what the heck
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>>150856548
yuri confirmed?
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holy shit, arc 1.5 makes my dick wet. Pythie and me are the same kind of person.
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>>150856582
Pythie is pretty much every SWfag anyway.
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>>150856276
>>150856371
>>150856402
>>150856487
I see, so it's not explained.
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>>150856582
Do you have the urge to sniff this hair?
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I found stats for some of the Aces girls, but not all of them, I'll post what I found

Uluru
Physical Ability: 3
Mental Strength: 4
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 2
Confidence: 4
Ambition: 3
Magical Potential: 3
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>>150856710
Did snow white always have ribbon on her collar?
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>>150856710
>>150856710
Yep, hairs and clothes.
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>Deluge made an exaggerated flirtatious face, and blew a kiss towards Inferno, blowing off her hand as she did so.
Where? It's not the hand, right?
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Sorami Nanako
Physical Ability: 3
Mental Strength: 3
Agility: 4
Intelligence: 4
Confidence: 2
Amibition: 2
Magic Potential: 3
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Premium Sachiko
Physical Ability: 2
Mental Strength: 2
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 2
Confidence: 2
Ambition: 2
Magic Potential: 5
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Patricia
Physical Ability: 5
Mental Strength: 4
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 3
Confidence: 3
Ambition: 3
Magic Potential: 2
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>>150856736
You mean her bow tie?
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Glassianne
Physical Ability: 3
Mental Strength: 3
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 3
Confidence: 3
Ambition: 3
Magic Potential: 4
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Dark Cutie
Physical Ability: 5
Mental Strength: 4
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 3
Confidence: 4
Ambition: 4
Magic Potential: 3
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Monoshiri Mi-chan
Physical Ability: 4
Mental Strength: 4
Agility: 4
Intelligence: 4
Confidence: 2
Ambition: 3
Magic Potential: 5
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>>150856897
>not all 5's across the board
the black sheep of Cuties indeed
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>>150856582
Muh nigga

Have you read Limited yet? She is even better in that
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That's all that I have for now, hopefully I find the rest of the girls' stats
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>>150856845
Yeah that one. Did she got it after her development or is it there from the start?
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So, from the new girls introduced on this vol, Which one is your favorite by design? I'm between Sorami and Blue Bell Candy, but thanks to her personality I'm more inclined for Sorami.

>>150856765
>Intelligence: 4
As expected of best sister.

>>150856829
>Deluge BTFO this
Jesus she's stronger than I thought.

>>150856897
>Not 5 Int and Mental
Maybe she'll make up with her ability because she doesn't look impressive in raw stats.
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>>150856935
If cuties have 5 int and 5 amb I am running away from them like hell.
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>>150856978
From the beginning.
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>>150856791
I can definitely see how her magic can be scary or broken, if you make sure to get the luck on a large scale event
>>150856725
Lower stats than I thought, wonder why she's the leader, maybe because she's the oldest
>>150856829
Stronger than I thought, too bad she got BTFO by Deluge
>>150856924
I can see how her magic is broken, looking forward to seeing it in action
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I found more

CQ Angel Hammer
Physical Ability: 2
Mental Strength: 3
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 4
Confidence: 4
Ambition: 5
Magic Potential: 3
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>>150857136
>Intelligence: 4
>Confidence: 4
>Ambition: 5
Yup, she's dangerous.
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Shufflin II
Physical Ability: 5
Mental Strength: 5
Agility: 5
Intelligence: 1
Confidence: 1
Ambition: 1
Magic Potential: 5
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Blue Bell Candy
Physical Ability: 3
Mental Strength: 3
Agility: 4
Intelligence: 3
Confidence: 2
Ambition: 2
Magic Potential: 2
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>>150857182
>Intelligence: 1
>Confidence: 1
>Ambition: 1
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>>150857182
>Intelligence: 1
>Confidence: 1
>Ambition: 1
I miss Joker.
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Armor Early
Physical Ability: 4
Mental Strength: 5
Agility: 3
Intelligence: 1
Confidence: 2
Ambition: 1
Magic Potential: 3
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Some thoughts on the first chapter of ACES.

The combat in this chapter was not very good. The fight between Deluge and Patricia was intense, but I'm not liking how this series is incorporating more and more faceless minions to get killed off en masse. It's been a trend since Limited and it's disappointing since the lack of stuff like this has been a strong point of the series for me so far.

With that said, I'm really liking the new characters, the three sisters seem really cool and I can already tell that I'm going to fucking hate Ripple for killing Sachiko. Although I think I can make a pretty good guess why..

In particular I really liked this line


Sachiko was… for better or worse, a scaredy cat.

And that’s okay, she’s Sorami’s older sister, and Sorami’s fine with that. Sachiko wanted a happy life, but with her timidness and cowardice, it’s quite hard for her get that.


Also, I can't tell who's creepier Angel Hammer or Puck Puk.
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>>150857182
Shufflin II and Armor Early join the dumb club.
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>>150857217
>>150857229
She has CQ Angel Hammer giving her direct instructions at all times though, which makes it practically irrelevant
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Which MS has the highest stats of them all? Who has the most OPed ability?
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>>150856829
Best girl.
I don't like Deluge any more.
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>>150857261
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>>150857302
Deluge will only stop when Sw is dead
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>>150857261
I don't mind having some faceless minions every now and then, since it shows the escalation in scale of conflict, and the fights between magical girls are still the focus. Besides it makes sense that R and D would send some of the things they develop
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>>150857330
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>>150857302
>minion of Pfle
>Best anything
they need to be killed to be stopped
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>>150856710
>>150856845
>>150857053
Is it me or Is the flower on Snow's head blooming?

Why? Is it marika doing?
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>>150857349

It bothers me because the strongpoint of the series has always been the fact that everyone who dies has such humanity. It's what elevates the series above your typical grim/dark splatterfest: all the characters feel like they matter which makes the fights feel really emotional.

When you start introducing lots of faceless characters who don't matter it takes away from that. It also really contributes to the sense of power creep which is NOT a good thing.
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>>150857388
>>150857053
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>>150857261
I really like the Deluge vs. Patricia fight.

Deluge doesn't seem OP. Strong, but not OP. SW wasn't OP in JOKERS either.

I just really like the realism in the fights. Nobody really survives a fight unscathed unless there's an actual hax reason like Grim Heart's powers.
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>>150857302

I hate her now too. Also pretty sure I'm going to hate Ripple by the end of ACES after she Kills Sachiko
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>>150857407
the only faceless things that have been dying is demons, so all of the magical girl deaths still have significant impact, if there are demons every now and then it doesn't really bother me, and they never actually kill anyone
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>>150857424
I think it really is blooming.
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>>150857302
Unless they're dead, they're still helping the enemy, and any minion of Pfle is the enemy. Deluge best girl
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>>150857461
What happens when it's fully bloomed?
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>>150857461
When it finally blooms she'll finally fulfill her destiny of becoming a Child of Cranberry
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>>150857434

I liked the Deluge vs Patricia fight too. It was super intense if a bit hard to follow at times. But I thought the fight with Armor Early and the fate of the escort with Patricia being left unresolved were both pretty bad.

I had the same issues with the prison breakout scene from Limited. I just don't like when they show a bunch of faceless minions in one scene and then just move on like they never even existed.
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>>150857261
Puk Puck is the creepiest.Fuck I just got spoiled on Sachiko part, but this makes everything more interesting indeed.

>>150857300
Both are the same: Mao Pam, though you could argue that Grim Heart and Puk Puck have better skills but Mao Pam's one is more useful for everything.

>>150857302
Chill out dude.

>>150857434
Same here, not only it's super intense but both made good use of their powers, and it made a point how Deluge isn't that strong since she needs to rely on Luxury Mode for her to keep up with other girls, I believe her stronger weapon now is her determination.
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>>150857510
The fight with Armor Early was resolved though wasn't it? She beat the crap out of her and handcuffed her to something to negate her abilities
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>>150857481
She goes mankai.
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>>150857448

Not true.

Faceless minions who may have died thus far:

LimitedThe gas mask girls Pukin kills
ACES: The ten girls escorting SG
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>>150857556

I put it in spoiler tags...
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>>150857569
I mean, I would say thats not a trend as much as it is an exception to the rule, its not like we have this happening too often and never in climactic scenes, so I don't mind it.
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>>150857581
Yeah, but I don't really mind so don't worry anon, but someone else that doesn't know that info might mind so be more careful.
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>>150857557

Errr yeah it was, the part that was unresolved was the fate of the ten MS in the escort.

Armor Early fight wasn't unresolved I just thought it was poorly choreographed by the standards of this series.
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>>150857481
Her boy comes back to life and she gets to live happily ever after with him.
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>>150857621

Not sure what else I can do besides spoiler tag it, but noted.
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>>150857665
You could say: Spoilers for the later chapters.
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>>150857556
>Chill out dude.

Don't just give Deluge a pass for this. Are hher feelings understandable? Yes.

Did she commit a cold-blood murder? Also yes.
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I love the names for returning characters in the franchise in Aces

SW- The Survivor
Deluge- The Experiment
Pfle- The revolutionary
SG- The Wild Card
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>>150857739

Where did you get these from? DESU I think Ripple is more of a wild card than SG.

SG is more like the dark horse.
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>>150857786
>SG
>Dark Horse

Kek
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>>150857786
from the TV Tropes page translator-kun edits, he hasn't put Ripple up yet since she hasn't appeared in Aces yet
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>>150857864
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>>150857711
Cool it with the ice puns, guys.
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>>150857911

THAT WASNT INTENTIONAL. DONT JUST DEFLECT THE ISSUE HERE.

DELUGE IS A MURDERER.
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>>150857711
I was just making an ice pun, but in all seriousness, I believe Deluge is way far gone now, she crossed the line that shouldn't be crossed, even if she's man-made she is not a Magical Girl anymore.
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>>150857963
Snow White = The Batman

Princess Deluge = The Punisher

Here we go guys...
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>>150857963
She's not a magical girl, she's the punisher, Pfle and everything related to her need to be killed, she may not be justified, but she is understandable and sympathetic and I still like her
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>>150857963

THANK YOU!

Like I empathize with Deluge. I even still hope she gets a happy ending.

But I don't see how anyone could think her actions are justifiable. I mean even from the way the scene was written it's obvious that the author is trying to show how horrible this killing was.
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>>150851627
>>150852192
Are they married each other?
because other case is ugly self insert
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>>150857963
her description in Aces

After surviving the events of JOKERS, Deluge has become focused on avenging her friends' deaths. She wants to understand more about the Land of Magic, their plans, her origins, and anything that might have to do with her and why her friends had to die. She's also become a bit more unhinged due to the events of JOKERS, and has steeled her mind in preparation for the things she's willing to do.
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>>150858026
I think the guys want to say is Patricia even that involved with pfle?
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>>150858026

I think Pfle needs to go down too but do you really think her minions even know what she's done or plans on doing?

I mean keep in mind that Filuru was also hired by Pfle. Did Filuru deserve to die too?
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>>150858142

Exactly. She's no different than Filuru or 7753
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>>150858089
I feel like Deluge is the Anti-Snow White in many ways.

Both are MGs at 14, have spear-like weapons, have been thrown into similar situations.

But Deluge crossed the line that SW would never want to.
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>>150858169
yeah hence the Punisher and Batman comparisons
>>150858144
I'm not saying how I think the situation is, I'm just saying thats her point of view
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>>150858169

Don't Deluge and Ripple both fill that role?
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>>150858219

That's fair.
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>>150858260
Ripple doesn't share enough similarities with Snow White's origins for her to fill that role for me.
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Deluge is so cold now, she didn't even said a word besides some grunts of pain and Luxury Mode On!

>>150858169
Same here, I want her to be saved too, honestly, I can't blame her for her actions but I don't justify them at all, she did the wrong thing, I'm sure SW could have resolved that situation without taking a single life.

>>150858260
Yeah, SW has a hard life.
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>“A movie featuring a Fury? The only one I can think of is Christine. John Carpenter, wonderful director. In fact, he directed one of my favorite horror films, it involved an outsider, infiltrating a group, and disguising itself, as the group kills each other to find it. Sound familiar?”

I think I'm starting to fall in love with the author of this series.
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>>150858332
Not every can fill SW's shoes anon.
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>>150858315

That's a good point. I guess Ripple was never cast from the hero mold to begin with.
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>>150858332
I think a major difference between SW and Deluge besides personality is that Deluge has living people that she can blame for the deaths of her friends, Cranberry and Fav were dead by the end of Unmarked
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>>150858390

Just making the point that real heros don't stab people in the back of the head just to accomplish their goals. It wasn't self-defense.
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>>150858390
Yeah, that's what makes her so special and ideal, I love SW so much.

>>150858446
Even so, remember how SW is not someone that hates the individual but the act itself, which is what makes her different from everyone else.
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>>150858376
At first I thought maybe it was just my love for superhero comics that made me think that MGRP has had western cape comic influences when I was reading Restart.

Then I read Limited and it basically confirmed the author knows a LOT of western stuff
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>>150858520
yeah but SW's method is not always a good thing, case in point not killing Pythie when she could have
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>>150858332
I am scared to read Queens.

>>150858446
It's not that anon Snow's has a different mindset.
>Snow White, however, hates the actions itself. It doesn’t matter to her who does it. She
hates seeing people do it.

For example in Arc 1, I doubt she will hate Swin Swin completely. She will target only the mastermind more.
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I hope at least Restart gets an anime adaption as well. Unmarked's one is pretty okay.
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>>150858549
Huh that's more a Pfle fuck up then SW anon. Without Plfe she would never have gotten out.
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I'm wondering if some anons could maybe make some kind of alignment chart or faction chart with all the stuff we know so far in ACES
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>>150858332
yeah and her portrait has pretty dead eyes, whats weird though is that they used her Jokers portrait for Queens and not her Aces one, so I'm interested in what that means
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>>150858645
He's talking about SWRP.

Snow couldn't touch Pythie in Limited. It would make more sense to blame Ripple.
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>>150858651
we have all the stats if chart anon wants to make another one for Aces
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>>150858549

Yeah but I think a major theme of that novel is that if you participate in the cycle of violence you're perpetuating it. Sure, SW could have killed Pythie. Maybe then none of the Limiteds would have died.

But then SW would have become just another killer in a world slipping to violence. SW is focused on the bigger picture.
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>>150857481
Her mind will turn to steel.
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>>150858692
>>150858714
I am talking about SWRP too.

Pythie was never getting out in limited without Pfle. Blaming that on SW is weird.
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>>150858745

CLEMAAAAATIS!
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>>150858708
Are the charts on the wiki?
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>>150858782
nah I'm talking about these charts
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>>150858779

My point still stands that if she killed Pythie in SWRP she would have lost her unique ability to prevent violence. Even though SW does hate to commit violence she's not a pacifist and I think would commit murder if she thought it was really the best way to save lives.

But SW sees that once she kills her actions won't have the same power.
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The wiki says that apparently in Queens Pythie is revealed to be working for the 3rd sage faction
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>>150858809
How is Pythie that strong? Didn't she say she suck at combat?
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>>150858841
i mean you can argue being true to your ideals but the fact is that killing her would have been the best possible outcome. Its like Batman with the Joker, killing him would be the best outcome but it goes against his ideals, so he won't despite the fact that it would probably save more lives
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>>150858549
If you ask me I'm more surprised how Ripple didn't killed Pythie.

>>150858870
Everyone sucks at combat when facing monsters like Pukin.
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>>150858870
Remember that Grace got her ass kicked by Hana?

She might just not be used to fighting veteran Magical Girls
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>>150858870
the Sister Nana effect maybe?
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Oh boy, Sonia is a better Accelerator. And Pam makes Gabriel seem like a toy in comparison.

I really wish those other arcs get animated one day.
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Which elf is worst elf?
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The factions have changed up quite a bit in Queens, here they are if anyone is curious

Team Puk- Puk Puck, Snow White, Shadow Gale, Armor Early

Team Osk- CQ Angel Hammer, Shufflin II, Lethe

Examination Division- Uluru, Mana

HR- Pfle, Dark Cutie, Glassianne, Blue Bell Candy, Deluge

Others- Fal

Non-participants- Pythie
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>>150858870
She literally has Yakumo like power. Being able to gap and open portal to anywhere with a stand of hair. She instantly win if she get a strand of hair and can just kill you 1000 miles apart while you are sleeping.
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>>150859023

Melville, she killed all 3 best girls of restart
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>>150858946

This. Strength is not combat experience.

Pythie knows she would have hard time in a direct fight with someone like Hana or Filuru. She's not weak, just fighting isn't her strongpoint.

But on the other hand she would beat the crap out of Pfle in a direct fight.
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>>150859029
>HR- Pfle, Deluge

What in the actual fuck
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>>150858946
This, sure, stats matter, but you don't win a fight with stats only, heck, I believe that if Grim Heart desactivates her power then she could be defeated by a strong veteran Magical Girl since she might have 0 experience fighting other girls thanks to her skill.
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>>150858841
That's true.

>>150858913
Eh no, it's not like she know another one is going to break her out that soon. I disagree on that killing her would be the best possible outcome that time. It's not like she know the future.

May be she will kill her if she see her now. We know she can kill.
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>>150859081
I have no idea how it happened, I'm curious to see though
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>>150858913

Does it save more lives if SW loses credibility to influence people that killing is wrong? Because that's what will happen when she kills someone.

It's about the big picture here.
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>>150858809
Do you have the others?
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>>150859120

Is it just a ploy to get close to Pfle and kill her? I know SG kills Pfle but maybe Deluge planned on doing it?
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>>150859081
They're both working on the same place, the irony is huge here, or that's one part of Deluge's keikaku.

>>150859144
It doesn't save more lives, but SW won't kill people even with the chance to because that is not what a Magical Girl would do, sure, that came back to bite her in her delicious ass but she's the kind of person that wouldn't betray her ideals like that.
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>>150859043
erejz jorself
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Now that people are posting Queens spoilers, i feel like an Anime-Only
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>>150859081
>>HR- Pfle, Deluge
May be Pythie got her after Ripple?
SW vs Deluge aka battle of the brainwashed.
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>>150859204
I don't think SW is concerned about being an ideal MS anymore. She just wants to save lives so no one has to go through what she went through.
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>>150858809
>Mana 1/5 alcohol drinking
Such a lightweight it's no wonder her sister died.
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>>150859240

Damnit Pukin
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>>150859240
I don't know if your spoilers are true but I would love to see it.
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>>150859043

DUHLIT ZEES
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>>150859240
nah as far as I know she's clean in Queens, apparently though, Queens spoilers: Her attitude in Aces is partially influenced by Blue Bell Candy, aka Lapis III, who betrays her at some point in Queens
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>>150859215
You'll never be like Cranberry.
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>>150859292
Oh yeah, I doubt she's concerned about it, but she would also try to find a way to stop fighting without the need to kill people, unlike Deluge that goes and kill anyone in the way of her goal.
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>>150855257
missed a character
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>>150859337
What would Melville tea taste like?
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>>150859560

Pechika's blood
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>>150859023
All elves are worst.
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>>150859204
>SW won't kill people even with the chance to
Anon she behead a girl with the full thought of preparation to deal with crossing the line.
Even if that ended up fine because that was Shufflin , it at least showed that she have the resolve to through it.

I still don't know why are we talking about Pythie getting out and fucking people up like SW's fault. It's not like she know about the future that pfle will break her out. SW was just starting out around that time too for god sake.
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>>150858809
I learn my lesson to not make stats so early.
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>>150854207
Because the purest love doesn't depend on looks.
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>>150858260
No, she is a jobber.
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>>150859292
I think the point is Snow White want to save lives, included the rogue magical girl ones. Hence the pacifist policy that she keeps holding on. Regardless of the consequences.
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Is it me, or does _Ripple_ always survive these with just random luck?

Unmarked: Lucky Rabbit's foot revives her

Limited: Pythie pulls her out right when she's about to die

Jokers: (as Stuntchica) gets pulled out by Pythie (AGAIN) after attempting a suicide bomb (Even Ripple wants this to end)

What will they do for ACES?
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>>150859773
who Deluge or Ripple, if its Ripple I agree, Deluge definitely isn't a jobber though
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>>150859693
Yeah, she has the determination and would do it, but that doesn't mean is her first option unlike Deluge also I agree, there was now way for SW to know that someone would free Pythie.

>>150859803
Yup, Luck 1 my ass.
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>>150859832
>Yup, Luck 1 my ass.

The author is clearly taking the piss out of this guy.
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>>150859803
>Lucky Rabbit's foot

I really think that was an imperfect copy of sachiko's magic, thus her source of misfortune and fortune.
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>>150859029
>Others- Fal

Oh shit he was a direct participant, damn no wonder that spoiler happen.
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>>150854912
>It can't be helped
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>Then the King of Clubs grabbed Mimi’s human body, and ripped her apart in two.
DAMN!
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>>150860518
No hard feeling kid just making sure.
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>>150859773

Ripple saved everyone's ass in both Unmarked and JOKERS GTFO
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>>150860599
my wife shufflin is so cute
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>>150860453
>>150860523
>>150860562
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Did nobody at the LoM realize they had botched Akane's memory erasure or what?
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>>150859777

But it's not really pacifism. She has been willing to use violence on several occasions.

She just avoids killing at all cost.
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>>150860599
so the hearts are cute scaredy-cats, the diamonds are neets, the spades are batorusexuals; what are the clubs' meme personalities?
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>>150860599
Shufflin is so cute.

>>150860778
But anon, you can't have 52 girls as your waifu.
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>>150860807
She already proved that she can kill if necessary.

So it's more like a last resort.
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>>150860767
Still a jobber.
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>>150859803

Except the second two weren't luck at all. It was just Pythie saving Ripple's ass repeatedly. Pythie would have left Ripple to die if she didn't find her valuable.
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>>150860453

Wish this were lewder
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>>150860523
>>150860957

See now this is what I'm talking about. Poor Ripple though, always the focus of lewdness when she wants it the least
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>>150860778
>>150860822

But anon, all 52 Shufflin are belong to me.
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>>150860767
>Ripple saved everyone's ass in both Unmarked
Fuck off that was Tama
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>>150860899

Exactly. If she has a choice between killing and letting her friends die she will absolutely kill if there's no other choice.

But the difference between her and Pfle or Deluge is that SW will ONLY kill in self defence. If she was in Pfle's death game she would not have made a deal like that to save SG.
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How could Mao Pam beat Grim Heart?
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Pukin is the best mahoiku. This is common knowledge.
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>>150860816
>what are the clubs' meme personalities?

they just camp with the noob tube
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>>150860908

Ok, Mao Pam
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>>150861143
She uses her wings to transform herself into a Shufflin or something.
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>>150860792
Armor Early is that you?
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>>150861081
>Fuck off that was Tama

Where was Tama when CM was gunning down half the city?

Oh that's right, she was standing there like an idiot while Yunael prepared the ambush to kill best girl Alice.

Who was it who actually avenged Tama's death in the end?

I'll just take my fedora and leave now.
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>>150861164

Why is one woman allowed to monopolize so much sexy?
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>>150861236

It's a character from Lords of the Fallen or some other similar RPG that belongs on /vg/
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>>150861236
Someone should make an armor early edit.
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>>150861290
Where was Ripple when Tama BTFO Cranberry, putting an end to any more potential death games?

Oh right, she was busy being an edgelord wanting muh revenge.

I'll take my leave now.
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>never trust those with mental power.
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>>150860453
>>150860523
>>150860562

Add this one to the list.
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>>150861550

I'm going to prison, now aren't I?
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>>150861638
Yes you are, I have this photo as evidence.
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>>150861331
the sexiness is only a side dish to her constantly fucking with everyone.
her sword is still around just so she can fuck people from the grave.
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>>150861368
We got this one.
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>>150861132
>Deluge
I am going to wait on her she might be eating too much candies if Queen spoiler are true.
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>>150850238
>>150852192
[ /spoiler what anime ]
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>>150861768
Pukin live on through the rapier.
Just as Ruler and Swin Swin live on through 'Ruler'.

I had a feeling that other MGs must be thinking Ruler might an important person to SW.
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>>150861331
She is a harlot that exposes both her collarbones and her midriff to anybody who looks at her from the side.

>>150861768
Her right eye is covered in shadow.
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Send help, I think I've become an addict
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>>150861771
I've said this once and I'll say it again, Armor Early is a Dark Souls character. I'm 90% sure.

Once we see more of her we'll see
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>>150862154
Welcome to the club.
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>>150862209

>Doesn't talk
>Wears fat armor
>Has RTSR build

I'm not saying it's Dark Souls but it's Dark Souls
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will we ever find out who the professor was? that seems like a big missing plot element, that hopefully wont become a plothole.
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>>150861952
Icy what you mean but use spoiler tags.
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>>150862363
Just a pawn human who is likely already dead or memory wiped.
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Finished Jokers. Can I read the side stories?
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>>150861768

This is my favorite picture of Pukin.

It's really easy to come across as hamfisted or just downright silly when you try to do these sadistic bloodlust type characters but Pukin really hits all the right notes.

She's legitimately unnerving in the novel.
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>>150861875
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>>150862489
What do you think about Jokers, anon.
Yes, you can read the side stories now.
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>>150861924

As if anyone in their right mind would try to leer at Pukin.
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>>150862558
It was good and I liked seeing SW's growth. I think I am getting used to deaths but Mimi and Filuru's deaths hit me hard. I am curious about Kafuria's though, according to her powers her two friends were supposed to die before her and yet she died first, was she lying? Also want Pfle is planning. Fal is a miracle of the universe.
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Read Aces chapter 1, I think the author just comfirm Sw isn't sort of suicidal. That was one of my suspicion in Jokers especially about what with attracting whales and not worrying as Fal said.
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>>150862860
I don't think Snow White wants to die. That would defeat her whole purpose of trying to rid the world of rogue Magical Girls.

I DO think she wants to attract stronger opponents, if only to be able to stop the worst ones. But she's not doing it for a warrior's death.
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>>150862859

How could she see her own head? If her power is like 7753's looking at a mirror won't work. So I think she was being honest and they really did change (and Uttakatta DID die before Filuru so Uttakatta must have had a longer lifespan left than Filuru before she met Grim Heart).

But really I think Kafuria and that scene were only really included for the sake of ominous foreshadowing that GH is bad, bad, news.
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So whose carpet do I have to munch to get me my own Shufflin army?
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>>150862572
I would devote my body to Shogun Pukin's pleasure!
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>>150863096
Grim Heart's. Good luck with that.

Maybe you can get some bootleg ones if you do CQ Angel Hammer
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I have been talking with TL-kun about the series and stuff and he said some interesting stuff about the whole deal between Pfle, Toko and Rain-Pou in Limited and how's related to JOKERS, of course, you should read this only if you finished JOKERS since it has spoilers for both arcs, and wow, this whole deal goes more deep than I thought it would.
The real job Pfle gave to Rain-Pou was to steal the information about how to make man-made magical girls from Grim Heart, not to kill someone else, problem is Rain-Pou and Toko saw what the whole deal was all about so now they knew too much and had to be silenced in order to not get the info leaked otherwise Grim Heart is gonna set aim for Pfle and more importantly, Shadow Gale.
So after knowing where Rain-Pou lives she needed to silence her, but How can you stop her from running away? That's what the barrier was from, but the barrier is only given to dangerous criminals and stuff like that so she leaked some of Rain-Pou's previous one, one of those probably is the one where she killed an unnamed higher-up, since that means she's a strong Magical Girl that might one of the reasons why Mao Pam also got involved, but Pfle also needed Rain-Pou to not be able to contact outside the barrier so that's why she included in the upgrade of 7753's googles the radio jamming thing, now, she needed someone that could move inside and outside the barrier, that's why she helped Tot Pop to free Pythie, sadly, as all of Pfle's plans always fail somehow Toko made a new team of Magical Girls when she felt cornered and Pythie frees Pukin alongside Sonia, she didn't expected that at all, also the reason why Ripple was there is because Pfle thought she would go for the kill given how she's also one of the children of Cramberry, sadly, she lost her edge.
The whole bussiness of Limited ended pretty well for Pfle because she successfully evaded Grim Heart, or that's what she thought.
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>>150863260
I love that both the Japanese fans and us have this same meme. It feels good; meme camaraderie.
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>>150862979
She said "Not me" the first time so I was assuming she could see hers too.
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>>150863187

Grim Heart is dead, anon.
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>>150863258
So basically Limited was a setup on Pfle's part to cut out the middle man who knows too much about her shenanigans.

This makes me look forward to Rain Pou and Pfle interacting in the drama cd, I hope they have a nice long talk about it all.
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>>150861921
Although Snow White is carrying the very same weapon that killed Alice.
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Holy hell, just watched last week's episode and they really did a good job.

Glad Top Girl got a better closure compared to the ln, only thing lacking was probably puking Tama.
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>>150862970
Yeah I know, I just sort of had a suspicion after what Fal said. Glad that wasn't true.

>>150863258
So She is making up plans as she goes as we expected. Too bad she made plans without actually understanding the people involved.

My only problem with her is that she don't really give a shit about her mistakes. Too many innocent lost their lives because of the fires she started, and her using others to put out those fires. She is the same as her view on LOM, too callous.
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>>150863442
Anon that pfle is before Restart.
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>>150863258
Cont.
Now for JOKERS, since the whole deal in B-City was bigger than Pfle thought Grim Heart investigated here and there and discovered that 7753's mentor is Pfle and with some other connections between Pfle and Rain-Pout it was clear that Pfle is the culprit behind her man-made her project to be stolen so that's why she attacked her manor at the beginning of JOKERS with Shufflins disguised as security guards, she didn't have to kill Pfle because the LoM would investigate her anyway.
But Pfle is smart, so before LoM began their investigation she leaked the whole thing by giving Pythie the file at the first chapter of JOKERS, with that done she could easily erase her memories with the help of Lapis III and give her memories to SG who would never betray her, now Pfle's keikaku doesn't stop here, leaking wasn't enough so she needed the world to know about the man-made Magical Girls, that's why she got a team made by veteran Magical Girls, and Stuntchica as mediator so nothing goes wrong, so they can discover the Pure Elements and show them to the world, and as always, her keikaku fails and Grim Heart alongside Shufflin enter the fray transforming the peaceful operation in what we know, that's why the text about the rumor didn't say anything about any kind of danger.
And regarding the Pure Elements, they were really man-made Magical Girls, which means an organization created by humans made them thanks to Pythie leaking the whole information.


>>150863586
Yeah, Pfle's problem is how she continues with her keikaku without slowing down and see what kind of shit she's doing, Pfle has a noble goal, but her ways to do it are pretty extreme and doesn't really consider how much people she's hurting in the process.
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>>150863258

This is really interesting. I had guessed at some of this but I hadn't understood Rain Pou's original purpose or why she freed Pythie. However, this does make me understand now why Pythie would free someone as dangerous as Pukin even though it caused her so many problems down the road. At the time, I thought she was just arrogant and thought she could control Pukin as her personal weapon.

But when you think about it in terms of this analysis it's actually an extremely brilliant move on Pythie's part. She must have known that someone with a master plan had freed her and she probably assumed that she might be disposed of later for the sake of convenience. Not only that but she will surely have the LoM trying to get her back in prison. But by introducing Pukin into the situation she creates a such a chaotic bloodbath that all parties involved are forced to deprioritize her for the time being.

I don't think Pfle ever intended to keep Pythie alive for so long.
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>>150863586
Y'know one thing I like about the keikaku lords in MGRP like Pfle, Pythie, etc. is that they make an initial plan, said plan probably goes differently, but the way they go "keikaku doori" is actually adapting so that their plan goes back in track.

That feels a bit more realistic than someone who goes "keikaku doori" and apparently has set up EVERYTHING so it works in their favor full stop.
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>>150863258
Pretty dumb to send Pythie in. Entirely unnecessarily, if Mao Pam's being sent in. If Mao Pam hadn't been distracted fighting them, she'd never have been rainbowganked.
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>>150863561
>only thing lacking was probably puking Tama.

I wanted this too although her scream when Cranberry exploded was 10/10
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>>150863637
Yeah, but Rain Pou would still recognize her, right?
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>>150863698
Yeah, I'm sure Pfle expected Pythie to get taken out by Mao Pam at some point.
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>tfw boi pucelle will never not be dead
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>>150863693
>And regarding the Pure Elements, they were really man-made Magical Girls, which means an organization created by humans made them thanks to Pythie leaking the whole information.

This doesn't add up to me. How would a human organization get their hands on Mao Pam wings?
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>>150863693
Interesting. So Pfle wasn't the direct boss of the Pure Elements. That's actually really interesting; so some normal humans, presumably a part of the Japanese government, used the info leaked by Pfle and Pythie to make magical girls? So, presumably, they still have the info, and there'll be a bunch of organizations making magical girls. So, the secret is out!
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>>150863848
Maybe they were as a bonus in the Pythie files.
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>>150863717

I think it was just Pfle's arrogance. She completely underestimated Pythie and even after the events of Limited still tries to use her.

Pfle is a genius but she sort of has tunnel vision. Pythie might not be as intelligent as Pfle, but she's wiser and a more flexible thinker.
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>>150863848
The training of the Pure Elements, the leak of their resources, and everything involved with that was all leaked by Pythie Frederica, who had access to LoM resources using her crystal ball as well as connections with Pfle in HR.
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>>150863975
This is more serious than I thought because now the earth's governments have access to not only the way to create magical girls but also to mao pam's wings, oh god, this is gonna end horrible.
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>>150863975
>>150863912

So Pythie just gave them a bunch of Mao Pam wings strong enough to kill a high-ranking FA Department Official? I dunno man it seems fishy.
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>>150864045
Because that's exactly Pfle's keikaku anon, she wants to everyone be able to make Magical Girls so LoM can't have a grip on them all.
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>>150863840
iktf
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>>150864045
>>150863975
>>150863912

If Pythie has access to that kind of firepower why isn't she using it? It would be a lot better than just Stuntchica bombs
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>>150864045
No, she gave them weak versions that the Pure Elements could defeat easily every week, with an increase in difficulty in order to train them and capture them.

Grim Heart, who knows about the demons, found them in their captured form, and being higher-up, was able to summon demons that can kill an FA official.
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>>150864083
Knowing Pythie she might be looking for more ideal girls to become Magical Girls.
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>>150864083
If she's got caught then SG will be targeted and basically over for Pfle.
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>>150863258
Shouldn't she supported Mao Pam if she wanted to kill Pythie, Toko and Rain Pou?
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>>150864125

Wait what? Grim Heart summoned the demons? How did she even do that?

I mean Grim Heart is borderline retarded.
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>>150864083
Because she can't control them. They were hostile to the Pure Elements. Sending in one that's powerful would just murder everything, and mess up the whole plan of revealing info. Worse, it would guarantee Grim Heart's victory.


The base or whatever it is is apparently equipped with the tech to control them, but they needed to be subdued and pacified first.

Not only that, sending demons out of nowhere in the facility would eventually arouse suspicion. The whole point is that there's no link back to Pfle and/or Pythie.
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>>150864076

But how would humans be able to use the Mao Pam wings without mages or experienced mahou shoujo? I think Pfle was being played the entire time.
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>>150863693
Give humans 4person Nukes, fucking smart. That will never end well.

Great this gonna ended in wars. Fuck.
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>>150864219

No but what I'm saying is, if Pythie has access to that kind of firepower, why not use it for her own purposes as well? Would have been real useful in B-City
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>>150864173
She's not retarded in the sense that she's stupid. She's just reckless and an "ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK" kind of girl.

Bringing in strong demons in the hopes of murdering everyone shouldn't take a lot of intelligence.

In fact, if she WAS smarter, she wouldn't have used the demons, since they'd probably kill the PE's anyway, again a sign of her reckless planning.
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>>150864294

Her intelligence stat is 1/5
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>>150864288
She can't use it in B-City because it requires both Pythie and Pfle. Pfle has access to Human Resources, giving Pythie a backdoor into LoM stuff.

All Pythie had access to in B-City was Tot Pop's revolutionaries stuff.
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>>150864294

But how does Grim Heart even have the power to summon demons? Where did she get them from?
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>>150864326
Both Mao Pam and Captain Grace have Physicals at 5/5.

I think for the extremes there's a "lower 1/1" which most animal Magical Girls operating on instinct lie in.

Then there's an "Upper 1/1" where it's just people making clumsy and stupid decisions that they don't think through.
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>>150864355
The base already has demons. Cherry was supposed to summon the demons to help the PE's. Remember they showed up in the Desert room friendly to the PE's.

The PE's have captured the demons beforehand. The Diamond Shufflin just knows how to upgrade those demons better.
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>>150864152
I think she fucked up. She probably wanted to be extra insurance, to make sure Rain Pou was eliminated. So she sent both Mao Pam and Pythie, but didn't expect Pythie to release Pukin and Sonia
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>>150864003
There will be wars and magical girls will be soldiers. GG earth.
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>>150864234
They must be very detailed instructions.
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>>150864329
That was before Pythie was working with Pfle. Pfle contacted her in at the end of the story, after she fled from Pukin
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>>150864470

That makes sense. Diamond Shufflin just too fucking sugoi
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>>150864400
Yeah, if I had to guess at ranges, its 1 star is dumb person/uplifted anima;, 2 star is C-B student, 3 stars is B-A student, 4 stars is straight A's, and 5 stars is full keikaku.
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>>150864496

or she was being played by Team Osk or Puck Puk the entire time.
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>>150864535
B-City was never supposed to blow up as big as it did. It was supposed to be a quiet thing where Rain Pou died.

She contacted Pythie to set up an encounter where Rain Pou and Pukin would kill each other.

Sending demons is just asking for more trouble.

Again, Pythie doesn't have access to demons without Pfle's help. Pfle contacted Pythie, but she didn't want Pythie to send rampaging demons across the city. One strong enough to kill Pukin nonetheless, meaning that pretty much every other MG would be dead against such a demon.

Best case scenario, Pythie saves everyone by running away. Demons are left in the city.

Thus the city will be nuked.
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What are Team Osk's goals, if they're so repulsive that most real MGs wouldn't join?
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>>150864666
I'm sure we'll find out in later ACES chapters. It's only been chapter 1
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>>150864598

Is there anyone else who has a 5 for INT besides Pfle and Pythie?
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>>150864688
Nope. The closest one is Mi-Chan and CQ at 4 Int
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>>150864688
Nope, but there are some 4 like SwimSwim, Ruler, CQ, etc.
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>>150864714
CQ is dangerous because she has maxed Ambition and high Confidence as well.
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>>150864400

To be fair though Captain Grace had pretty ridiculous physicals. She was just unlucky to run into a total killing machine like Sonia. I would argue that Mao Pam vs Sonia is the most high level duel we've seen in the series.

Mao Pam came within inches of losing her leg. It took a ridiculous amount of firepower to take down Sonia. People say Mao Pam did nothing in that arc but I honestly don't see how anyone else could have won against Sonia.

People talk up Pukin a lot, and deservedly so because she's an awesome villain.

But I think Sonia was actually the more dangerous fighter of the pair.
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>>150864478
No anon Mao Pam coming in was a non factor in her plans, she come in because of her overstating danger of Rain Pou.
Pfle should have just give her a bit of info through 7753 and Rain Pou will get caught quite easily or killed by Mao. Afterwards She will deal with the rest. So what did pfle do? Nothing, no fucking info for the Mana's team.

Huh may be she didn't because she dont want Rain Pou to get caught and spill the beans?
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>>150864829
Realistically Pukin wouldn't be able to touch Sonia. Wouldn't her rapier just disintegrate on touch.

I don't think it's enough to touch someone, you need to damage them. if Sonia ever betrayed Pukin I doubt Pukin has a chance.
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I wonder if Strength attribute can/can't be upgraded over time or
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>>150864829
Yeah, Pukin is lucky that Sonia would never Swim Swim her, because there's nothing Pukin could do to stop Sonia if it came down to a fight.
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>>150864779
>>150864714

I wonder if any of the new QUEENS character will have 5 INT, specifically Puk Puck. It would fit the pattern of 5 INT characters having "P" names.

Then again Grim Heart is the only other sage we've seen so far and she's pretty dumb.
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>>150864792
This, if anything CQ looks like one of the most dangerous character yet.

>>150864888
I doubt it, now experience and stuff like that it can.
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>>150864888
you can train your body and be stronger right? MG forms relate to your physical strength so I think it's upgradable the same way IRL.
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>>150864779
anon you forgot SW.
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>>150864688
Doesn't Joker have a 5 star in INT?
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>>150864882

That's what I'm wondering. Pukin only needs one grazing sword hit for mind control, which is super dangerous as shown in the Rain Pou fight.

But would that even be possible?
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>>150864863
The whole point was to erase any evidence of her being involved with Rain Pou, so no one can trace her as the one who stole the plans. It didn't even work, considering that Grim Heart found out she was the one anyway. It was actually a mistake to send 7753 in, although without 7753, the plan would have completely failed.
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>>150864792

Never trust a character with max confidence and ambition.
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>>150864478
She could just have leak a bit more info through 7753 about how dangerous assassin is and how she should be taken down as quickly as possible. And give them a bit of hint about the identity.
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>>150864829
>>150864882
>>150864890
>Doubting Shogun Pukin
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>>150864792

And most importantly she just keeps on Shufflin
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>>150864955

SW has five int?
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>>150865062
Yeah, I do agree Pfle fucked up. I assume Pfle didn't know anything about Rain Pou's identity, but if she did, she was a dumbass for not telling 7753.
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>>150865103
No 4 int.
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>>150865069

But how?
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>>150865128
I doubt she knew since Pfle did the deal with Toko.
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>>150865062
Except she doesn't know what Rain Pou looks like. She's in contact with Toko through texts and her only contact is Toko.

Toko's smart, she wouldn't compromise Rain Pou's identity because they always planned to make the other girls if they were cornered.

Nobody in the LoM knows what the Assassin looks like or her powers. The assassin kills people with bladed cuts, that screams like sword.

Pfle specifically saying "She actually has sharp rainbows" would be suspicious. How would she know without knowing the Assassin?
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>>150864922
>>150864792

I'm glad that CQ is the type of villain who can enjoy using her telepathy just to fuck with some random school boys.
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>>150864829
The thing is that Sonia combines a near-perfect defense with a near-perfect offense, so you have to use indirect methods to take her down. Arguably only MP could have done it since her powers were so versatile.

And yeah, Sonia is deadlier than Pukin in combat, that's probably why Pukin keeps her around. However, MC powers are far more egregious, like what happened when she took control of Rainpou and made her mince her best friend.
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>>150850011
I HAD ENOUGH. SOMEONE JUST KILL THIS BITCH PLEASE.
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>>150865130
Make her touch herself at close range? Coat her weapon with something to be able to stab her? Stab her tongue? Idk but I can't imagine Pukin being inferior to Sonia.
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>>150851218
Mariko: Himekawa...
Koyuki: We can't.
M: Today...
K: Can't be done.
M: I need to talk to you outside...
K: Like I said, I can't.
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>>150865563
Sonia should have the Nilokeras weakness; if she's standing on the ground, she can't have her disintegration active on her soles or she'll fall right through.

Pukin buries her sword point up, baits Sonia into rushing her, Sonia steps on the sword.
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>>150865563

She's not inferior to Sonia. Sonia is basically Pukin's personal attack dog. Pukin has Sonia wrapped around her finger without even using mind control.

I just don't think Pukin could beat her in a fight.

At the same time I doubt Pukin would ever die to Sonia because Pukin has some of the highest base movespeed in the series (not counting magical powers)
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>>150865690

Seems legit.
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>>150865722
Do you think Pukin actually cares for Sonia?

I get the feeling that Pukin has many tools, but Sonia is more like a pet.
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>>150865128
True, I forgot that they only contact though msg. Still I believe that she should have done a lot more support and give out hints like without being suspicious. Like speculation about the killing being done by a silent sharp weapon that may be a long range attack or not. Every minor bit helped in a dangerous situation.

I think this is where her give little shit about people screw over her int and ability to plan.
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>>150865831
Whether or not she cares for Sonia doesn't actually matter in an analysis if they would win in a fight.

That being said, Sonia's like a pet dog I think. She seemed pretty angry that Sonia was killed, but I don't know if it's because she lost someone she cares about or she lost a really good weapon kinda angry.
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>>150851218
Mariko a cute
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>>150865831

I'm conflicted because on the one hand Pukin really does treat Sonia like a pet and seems to have legitimate affection for her. At the same time, it's hard to imagine someone surviving that long in Pukin's company unless Pukin is legitimately intimidated by them.

I think maybe that's a big part of why Pukin respects and adores Sonia so much despite having such contempt and lack of empathy for almost anyone.
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>>150865965
We'll see more in their sidestory.
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>>150865205
This >>150865887 was also for this anon.
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>>150866001

Will the side story manage to actually make us feel bad for them?
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>>150866040
>Not feeling bad already for them
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>>150865831
I think she does. Do they have a side story or something?
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>>150865961
She's a meek lonely cake who doesn't want to disappoint her mom, I want to MARRY her already.
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>>150866054

>feeling bad for people who kill the elderly and make hamburgers
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>>150851313
>that smug cloud at the bottom
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>>150866190
>DENIED
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>>150866114

She has a hidden loneliness stat of 5/5
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>>150851627
I want to marry snow white
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>>150851313
Reminder that nemurim is author favorite and best girl from her arc
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>>150866220
If SW really does push Marika away after realizing PP was playing her, that'll be really sad.
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I wish Grace and Marika could have met.
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>>150866246
you'd die on the wedding night somehow and cause her even more grief.
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>>150866480
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>>150866480
Good thing I believe in sex before marriage.
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>>150866692
Then you'll probably die even before that.
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>>150866692
Remember la pucelle? He didn't scored even a kiss. You're dead m8
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So I just finished Limited.

Jesus.

I'd say that story was much better than previous arcs, but Restart had a more likeable cast.
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>>150866823
Anon is already dead due to the Japanese Cold.
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>>150866959
For me Unmarked has the overall worst cast but Restart has the worst story.
Limited has the best story and Restart has the best cast.
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>>150867047

Restart has a better story than Unmarked though.
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>>150866692
>Slip in the shower before you get it on
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>>150866959
I like limited casts especially the good sides a lot more then restart characters.
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>>150867098
Personally I disagree. Though I do know that generally readers put Unmarked vastly below the others in every way.
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Why the hell was Pythie thinking that bringing Pukin was a good idea?
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>>150867262
It was a good idea though.
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>>150867219

Unmarked is just too predictable. There are few nice twists, but other arcs have much more in general.

Other arcs also have better girls so you care more.
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>>150867262
she didnt want to be a neat little pawn in someone else's plan.
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>>150867047
If you focus too much on it being Shoujo Art Online restart is pretty dumb, but the Secret Hitler aspect makes it really enjoyable in my opinion. You end up doubting all of the characters and not knowing who to trust. Just like Nokko-chan wanted.
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So I did something a little different with the sorter.

I sorted these based on a "If these two MGs fought, who would win".

The rules:

* No emotional attachments. So La Pucelle and Snow White wouldn't be affected by fighting each other
* Everyone's going for the kill, so Snow White, Prism Cherry, Postarie, all are going for the kill. Tama and Postarie lose their cowardice. HOWEVER, they keep their meek combat skill if they're bad at fighting.
* Winning is defined as actually beating your opponent, so Grim Heart would need to beat her opponent, acknowledging them. Otherwise she's gonna be on the top.
* Nemurin and Keek are in the real world
* Miyokata receives an assist in the form of the Great Dragon from Restart. Clantail can also transform into the Great Dragon.
* Shufflin is only Joker form
* Shufflin 2 is fighting all 52 of them at once
* Mana gets OD'd on healing meds, and is lifted to MG base strength of 3/3/3/3/3 but if she can't last at least 5 minutes in hand-to-hand combat she dies from OD.
* Postarie is considered to have a series of knives belonging to her opponent
* Calamity Mary only has her revolver, some grenades, and a rifle
* Mind control powers are on. If mind control can be used to end a fight, it ends the fight.
* If anything can be used to force an MG to turn into the human, causing the opponent to kill them, it ends the fight.

Personally the first result didn't go how I expected. I expected Mao Pam to be number 2, with Sonia below her, THEN Swim Swim.

I can retry again later.

Any changes/suggestions?
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>>150867488

I don't even get the SAO comparisons. It's nothing alike.

It's like saying that Star Wars and The Martian are similar because they happen in space.
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>>150867503
you're overselling Swim Swim a lot, and underselling Sonia imo, there is 0 chance Swim2 beats Mao Pam
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>>150867574
>Personally the first result didn't go how I expected. I expected Mao Pam to be number 2, with Sonia below her, THEN Swim Swim.

Like I said, the sorter didn't go as I expected.

That's probably because the sorter didn't pair some MGs with others. I want to retry it again with better results.
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>>150867503
Swim swim is shit at fighting and would never beat Mao Pam. Actually her magic is quite defensive, even if it's good in ambush.
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I sure love how everyone I like dies. And Jesus fuck, Wedin didn't even have to die.
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>>150867670
>Personally the first result didn't go how I expected
>I expected Mao Pam to be number 2, with Sonia below her, THEN Swim Swim.

I couldn't agree with you more. Like I said, I don't think these results are accurate to what even I personally think
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>>150867524

>Trapped in a game
>If you die in the game you die for real
>Traps that you can't reasonably prepare for
>Some players kill others just for fun
>The villain was among you the whole time

I'm not seriously comparing them but there's only so many ways you can write a "trapped in a game" story.
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>>150867670

Swim Swim is seriously bad at combat. Her power is okay but it's nothing amazing either.

Mao Pam can literally kill Accelerator.
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>>150867774
Whoa, calm down, which Accelerator are we talking about here?
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>>150867503
Alice would be defeated by Sonia and Daisy so I wouldn't put her at number 1.

I'm a Swim Swim fag but I wouldn't put her this high on the power charts. There are at least 10 other MGs who would whoop her ass.

>>150867670
>>150867774
>Swim Swim is seriously bad at combat.
>Swim Swim is shit at fighting
>Has a 2 in combat skill.

She isn't good but she's not shit, 1 star combat skill is shit.
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>>150867774
But can she defeat Uchiha Madara?
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>>150867797

Mao Pam's wings are better than archangel wings. Novel says they can tank nukes. Her method to kill Sonia would also work on Accel. Hell, Sonia would kill Accel.
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>>150867900
1 star is clueless shit that never held a weapon. She's shit at combat
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>>150867900
>Personally the first result didn't go how I expected
>I expected Mao Pam to be number 2, with Sonia below her, THEN Swim Swim.

Y'know what guys, I'm gonna redo the sorter ;w;

Even I disagree with my own sorter results
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>>150867901
I don't think any MG can beat Madara since he could absorb all magic abilities and no MG has hand-to-hand combat that's as good as 8th gate Guy.
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>>150867900

Mao Pam would also kill Alice. She could burn her to dust. If she can somehow regenerate from dust she could freeze her at absolute zero, stick her in a giant chunk of ice and throw her into space. That would be worse than death.
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>>150867910
He can just reflect her wings.
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>>150867959
Mao Pam and Lazuline excel at hand-to-hand.

Pukin excels in sword-based combat.
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>>150867969

Doesn't matter. He would still die like Sonia did. She doesn't even need to touch him.
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>>150867993
When will we get a Landsknecht themed MG who rocks a zweihander and establishes herself as Snow White's rival?
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>>150868053
Not if he is connected to the Misaka Network.
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>>150867726
She had to anon, otherwise that would mean she isn't a real Magical Girl.
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>>150868071
Only after the Panzerfaust fairy MS.
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>>150868074

He still needs to breathe. She can kill him the same way.
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>>150867948
1 star= Poor/Shit
2 star= Below Average
3 star = Average
4 star= Good
5 star= Excellent
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>>150868116
Only if Mao Pam is able to capture him.
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>>150868071
What would her magical skill be? The ability to bargain for twice the price?
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>>150868155

She can.
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>>150868255
Create a rift in the LoM which would take 1000 years to reunify, and become the laughing stock of the other lands.
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Could someone link me to the sorter? I can only find the anime version.
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>>150868337
I doubt there are other lands.
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>>150868312
Not if Accel catches her first.
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>>150868363

http://mahoikusorter.tumblr.com/
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>>150868375

He can't. She's much faster. Many times faster.
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>>150868364
She would create a magical "empire" and pathetically lose every single battle she engages in, but somehow comes back even more evil every single time.

There, it's a great power.
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>>150868389
Thanks Anon.
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>>150868417
That's like, the ultimate villain power.
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>>150868412
Not much faster than a rainbow, eh?
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>>150868255
Her magical skill would be an intimidation aura that makes her seem much more threatening than she actually is.

And then at the end of the volume, she gets BTFO by Flame Flamey.
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>>150868255
Multiculturalism.
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>>150868483
>She's a fresh magical girl recruit with little combat skill, but her Aura makes people think she's the most terrifying thing to exist
>Aura also helps her get really great deals
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>>150868603
Do such great deals involve 20 billion gold marks?
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>>150868603
Wouldn't that skill attract people like Marika?
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>>150868719
That's the thing, it draws people who want to test themselves and then she doesn't have the skills to pay the bills.

But she can scare the weak-minded so they think she's strong and fight for her.

She comes through by getting delicious treats at a discount for her minions, though.
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Fast Music at 70%
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>>150868814
Landsknecht would be best Ruler.
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Okay different anon but I did a power ranking version as well and I have to say, I kinda understand you now >>150867503
its just not possible to get this 100%, when you've got around 250 choices to make.
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>>150869240
That one isn't that bad though
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>>150869060
BASED
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>>150869225
If she could make up for it by being a great tactician or something, then she might be able to uphold her image
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New thread

>>150869122
>>150869122
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>>150864654
The nuke was a lie
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