Jesus Christ.

>>150849344
Can anyone that has watched all of bleach confirm this?

>>150849344
I feel like Naruto might beat it by the time it actually ends.

>>150849471
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Episodes

>>150849551
Is it true that if you skip fillers on bleach, it becomes better?

>>150849776
Yes. It's like picking out the solid pieces of shit and throwing away the diarrhea.

>>150849799
Mmmm, yes. That's just the answer I'm looking for.
Will marathon it this weekend, thanks anon.

>>150849471
It's probably true, but I remember liking some of the filler like the stuff where the Zanpakto turned into human forms.

>>150849776
That's true of any anime.
Filler is absolute garbage at worst, and a waste of time at best.

>>150849471
I've watched all of Bleach and I can confirm it felt like it was mostly filler.

>>150849551
Naruto fillers arcs are better than the adapted half of the show a lot of the time. Studio Perriot have a better idea of what Naruto is about than Kishi because of how much he was forced to shoehorn in.

>>150850113
How many episodes of Naruto is actually filler? We already have confirmed 80 from the first series.

>>150850113
But fillers they don't advance the plot at all, so they are worthless no matter how good the ideas.

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>>150849844
>>150849776
It's impossible to skip fillers on Bleach.

They will put canon chapters inside the fillers or will add filler characters(or just filler) to the canon arcs.

Just read the manga, the anime cuts a lot of things, like I said adds filler, censors stuff and has worse art and pacing than the manga.

>>150850113
Not really no. For example the flashbacks, you have Kakashi flashbacks of Obito like 300 times in the anime, in the manga it's like 2.

A lot of scenes lose impact because Pierrot repeats them way too much so when you see them on the anime in actual canon you're already bored of them.

>>150849776
I did this. I skipped from the end of the Soul Society arc to the next one, skipping the bounts,


The only thing they kept were these little Kon Dolls who I guess were Good Bounts or something.

I dropped it a few fights in anyway, because it still sucked

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>>150850325
>so they are worthless no matter how good the ideas.
You're watching a show for your own personal entertainment. If the filler is good then it's far from worthless.

>>150849344
I liked the filler more than the main retard story with Aizen. It felt more like fucking ghost adventures in some parts. I still hate the soul society shit even happened and the soul bringer arc was the best until the very end.

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>>150850005
>Doesn't know about good filler

G8 was a filler arc for One Piece and I would still tell people to watch that shit. Speaking of OP, how's the filler percentage for that? Haven't watched much of the anime because there's way too many episodes to plow through.

The filler were the only good thing about bleach. especially the last filler had really good animation.

>>150850358
Those stupid fucking dolls, man.

>>150850711
A story that goes nowhere is unenjoyable, unless it's a comedy.
A filler arc can't further the plot, can't have any lasting impact, can't do character development, it can't do shit.

>>150850985
I never bothered with One Piece, too many episodes.

>>150851274
And that's why you stick with the manga and occasionally check out the odd fight scene here and there or episodes like G8, because fuck me if gonna tell anyone to sit through like 800 episodes of anything

>>150849776
To get the best experience out of bleach I recommend skipping every single episode.

>>150850711
My own personal entertainment is strictly filler-free.

>>150851274
>can't do character development

Sure they can. The Hanabi filler (The Adored Older Sister) and that Shino filler (Friends You Can Count On) had plenty of character development, while the canonical episodes went around in circles with Sasuke's and Naruto's for hundreds of chapters, or had padded fights that did much of the same. Pierrot's filler episodes are the episodes most centered upon characterization.

>>150849471
Yes, I watched the anime
the episodes marked as filler on animefillerlist.com are filler and are not in the manga

>>150851598
But the development can't reflect later in the story if it isn't canon.
Are you confusing development with exposure?

>>150851721
Are you confusing development and characterization with relevance to the plot? The fact that Hanabi and Shino aren't "important" to the plot doesn't change the fact that you come out of these episodes knowing more about them than you did coming in. Really:

>But the development can't reflect later in the story if it isn't canon

Why does this matter? Can't a good story just be a good story?

>>150851833
>Why does this matter?
Because the entire point of development is for a character to end up different than he started.

I don't watch filler, as all the filler I end up watching accidentally is garbage (still mad about when I ended up watching the three tails filler), so I have no clue what you're specifically referring too.

>>150851833
>>150851936

To be fair, Kishi has incorporated filler at some points.

There was Raiga from the Part 1 seven swordsman filler.

Then there was Juzo who was also a seven swordsman.

Guren made a cameo in the series. etc.

Besides, the last and Boruto are movie/anime only but they are considered canon.

>>150850148
at least 80. I'd say it was about half of the episodes.

>>150851936
You don't need to have a character change to have an entertaining, or even a well written, story (character development, to mean, characterization, is more than enough for this), but a lot of filler, as well as many short stories, can still do so within the run time of an episode or an arc. The Hanabi one, for example, actually does bridge the gap between her portrayal in the Chunnin Exams and her cheerier demeanor in the Last.

>>150851936
>the entire point of development is for a character to end up different than he started.

This isn't even true. Shedding light on a character's traits and allowing you to know more about them is development.

Bleach's filler is like 100% garbage (though so is Bleach), but filler isn't garbage by definition. Neither are canon SoL bits that don't go anywhere.

>>150849471
Most of the filler arcs were great.

>>150852214

To be honest, the only Bleach filler arc I hated enough not to watch was the Bount one.

The other fillers had everyone just duking it out.

>>150850985
Really, really low. Probably around 50 and there and 700+ episodes

>>150849551
>I feel like Naruto might beat it by the time it actually ends.
wait a sec it's still not over?

>>150849344
It was really shitty so I thought fullbring arc was filler too.
Ignoring that, Zanpakutou arc was the best filler arc.

>>150852444
>implying it's not the reigai arc

>>150852214
I qualify that as exposure, not development.

>>150852605
Funny, I qualify you as retarded, not autistic.

>>150852631
Funny, I qualify you as both, a retard autist if you may.

>>150852877
The joke was that the autism spectrum falls under the broader category of intellectual/developmental disability (mentally retarded).

>>150849344
Damn, no wonder that shit got canned.

>>150849776
No, rather than that, skip all the later canon.

Substitute captain, sword materialization and clone captain stories are superior to the mess that was later canon Bleach.

I can't believe I made it through the Bount arc.

>>150850358
Good scenes in manga are scarce. While battle scenes and voice acting make it worth to watch at least some non filler arcs.

>>150852394
The pace of canon episodes slows to a crawl around 300ish though

>>150849776
Not entirely.

The Zanpaktou Tales arc is the single greatest arc in all of Bleach and that's just filler.

>>150849776
Actually, you should skip all the canon episodes and just watch the filler, it's like a whole different anime, jumps from a 4/10 to a 7,5/10

>>150849776
When it comes to Bleach filler the following is about all anyone can agree on:
Skip the Bount arc, it's garbage.
The Zanpakto arc is great, watch that.
The other two filler arcs are just sorta there, there doesn't seem to be a general consensus on whether they were good or not. Regardless of whether you plan on watching the clone filler arc, make sure you do watch episode 342. It's the last episode of it.

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>>150855167
The clone arc had some cool fights like Komamura vs Sui Feng, and it was nice to see Kon be more than just comic relief for a change. The green haired chick was kind of lame, bad guy was okay for a filler villain (basically diet Mayuri). Worth a watch when you have time to kill.

Funny that I get this for a captcha when talking about the clone arc.

>>150855034
Madman!
ill do it

Ranma 1/2 was about 40% filler but it wasnt all bad. Though the worst episodes in the show and especially the ones with the most flanderization were filler.

>>150850325
Story matters much more than plot.

>>150849344
yeah and i rewatched the fillers . by the way if you're planning to watch it don't skip the fillers between 225-229. i remember a beach episode between them

>>150852261
The one with the clones was pretty good.

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which series deserve the kai treatment [cutting out filler material and rereleasing at a high quality definition] ?

I'd like a slimmed down Rouroni Kenshin. it's like half filler for fucks sake and half of the cannon episodes are drawn out to inflate the episode count