[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Apologize.

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 515
Thread images: 137

File: 1480731818986.jpg (48KB, 405x443px) Image search: [Google]
1480731818986.jpg
48KB, 405x443px
Apologize.
>>
File: yayaka wot.png (244KB, 1200x1200px) Image search: [Google]
yayaka wot.png
244KB, 1200x1200px
Papika where you at?
>>
>>150837429
I don't have anything to apologize for.

I have always believed in the Yayaka.
>>
File: papika...with a GUN.jpg (34KB, 389x361px) Image search: [Google]
papika...with a GUN.jpg
34KB, 389x361px
>>150837455
don't even think of getting your paws on cockona
>>
Cocona lives with an adorable old granny
And she doesn't know how to cook


Did this never strike anybody else as a big warning sign? This above all else should have given away the fact that Granny is a robo. Grandmas don't just NOT teach their granddaughters to cook. It doesn't happen like that, it goes against nature.
>>
File: 1481439457573.jpg (153KB, 1408x528px) Image search: [Google]
1481439457573.jpg
153KB, 1408x528px
>>
>>150837429
>show title nowhere in the OP at all
Nice thread, dingus.
>>
>>150837429
NEVER
>>
File: 1481030368869.jpg (207KB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]
1481030368869.jpg
207KB, 1600x900px
>Yayacuck

JUST
>>
File: Walther パピカ.jpg (40KB, 389x361px) Image search: [Google]
Walther パピカ.jpg
40KB, 389x361px
>>150837559
>Not using superior Walther PPK
>>
>>150837598
This is a very special VIP thread. Catalog fags are not allowed.
>>
>>150837568
10/10
>>
File: 1480662394091.png (710KB, 924x670px) Image search: [Google]
1480662394091.png
710KB, 924x670px
>>150837429
Have we hit peak smug?
>>
>>150837562
Did Cocona ever wonder why her Granny never goes to the bathroom
>>
I'm going to be Frank. Flip Flappers is not an anime.
It's a wonderful show, but an anime...? Um... yea... no.
>>
>>150837790
Hi Frank, I'm Tom.
>>
If Cocona came onto Salt while wearing red contacts and claimed she was being controlled by Mimi, would he be able to tell the difference?
>>
File: smug1.jpg (33KB, 400x424px) Image search: [Google]
smug1.jpg
33KB, 400x424px
>>150837685
Yayakat can you beat this smug?
>>
File: 1480600558615.jpg (395KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1480600558615.jpg
395KB, 1280x720px
>>150837680
>>150837685
Sleep snug, smug
>>
>>150837680
I actually found this in the catalog. Sorry.
>>
File: o08794eg.png (193KB, 608x720px) Image search: [Google]
o08794eg.png
193KB, 608x720px
>>
File: snug as a smug in a rug.png (517KB, 718x888px) Image search: [Google]
snug as a smug in a rug.png
517KB, 718x888px
>>150837857
You know it.
>>
I want more pics of Flip Flaps giving eachother gay looks
>>
>>150837790
My life is a lie
>>
File: CzbRq1iUQAAEp-3.jpg-orig.jpg (63KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]
CzbRq1iUQAAEp-3.jpg-orig.jpg
63KB, 800x600px
>>
File: CzXDV34UsAA0KS6.jpg (93KB, 700x928px) Image search: [Google]
CzXDV34UsAA0KS6.jpg
93KB, 700x928px
>>150837911
>>
File: 2.jpg (77KB, 800x634px) Image search: [Google]
2.jpg
77KB, 800x634px
>>150837911
>>
File: 1481423111289.jpg (454KB, 1008x1279px) Image search: [Google]
1481423111289.jpg
454KB, 1008x1279px
This is Cocona.
>>
File: CzMn2gEUUAA10cK.jpg (103KB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]
CzMn2gEUUAA10cK.jpg
103KB, 1200x675px
>>150837911
>>
>>150837598
>we need the reddit audience
>>
File: cocona.png (2MB, 1907x2290px) Image search: [Google]
cocona.png
2MB, 1907x2290px
>>150838055
This is also Cocona.
>>
File: 1480626248713.png (226KB, 400x379px) Image search: [Google]
1480626248713.png
226KB, 400x379px
Let's talk about phalic imagery
>>
File: 1481242869957.jpg (50KB, 489x476px) Image search: [Google]
1481242869957.jpg
50KB, 489x476px
>>150837429
Cocona would probably like Yayaka more if she didn't have a nasty fivehead
>>
File: 8QXD2X9.jpg (79KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]
8QXD2X9.jpg
79KB, 1366x768px
>>150838237
I wanna talk about butterfly imagery. Their henshin outfits are clearly designed after butterflies. Young Salt had a book about butterfly biology in his room, and camera gave it enough focus for it to be meaningful. What do butterflies represent here?

They show up all the time in time travel stories, but I can't imagine the Butterfly Effect has any sort of relevance in Flipflap.
>>
Who is Cocona's father?
>>
File: freud.png (283KB, 653x512px) Image search: [Google]
freud.png
283KB, 653x512px
>>150838237
Phallic imagery is always the piece of freud I stumble on.
He associates so many different things with dicks that it becomes difficult to narrow the purpose behind a single instance of phallic imagery into a reasonable collection of meaningful interpretations.

Like look at this. What am I even supposed to make of this? 6 episodes and one major fucking plot-twist later and I still don't understand why this tree was a dick.
>>
>>150837708
some hoveround models have built in toilets
>>
>>150838366
Salt designed proprietary henshin tech based on cicada biology.
>>
>>150838366
Some anon said Papika's name is a reference to Papilon which is the french word for butterfly
>>
>>150838366
>Their henshin outfits are clearly designed after butterflies
The director said their outfits are inspired by cicadas.
>>
>>150838389
Looks like a veiny dick prison
>>
>>150838389
I can't see why phallic imagery would have a role to play in yuri. Maybe it's just a tree? It's really not that phallic.
>>
>Salt
>Paprika
>Coco
Why is this cast so full of flavour?
>>
>>150838389
The 14 yr lesbian considers dicks ominous and threatening. Don't need a degree for that one.
>>
File: 1481349923657.jpg (67KB, 850x724px) Image search: [Google]
1481349923657.jpg
67KB, 850x724px
>>150838237
i prefer vaginal imagery
>>
File: x_del.png (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
x_del.png
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>150837869
>>
>>150838554
try again.
>>
File: 1446021742302.jpg (80KB, 431x424px) Image search: [Google]
1446021742302.jpg
80KB, 431x424px
>>150838548
>>
>>150838488
Look at the bit where Cocona's skirt splits to reveal more leg. That's clearly a butterfly, even if the general theme is more cicada.
>>
>>150838517
According to freud, phallic imagery is like, the most important thing to lesbians.

In frued, dicks are not dicks. Dicks are just symbols, containers for various psychological meanings just like a folder can be a container for 146 Flip Flap reaction images. Most of those meanings relate to social power, influence, affect, self-confidence, self-awareness, vitality, empathy and the dominant or controlling position in a relationship.

To give you a quick summary: Frued claims that every boy is born thinking women are naturally futanari and is obsessed with his mom's dick. When he discovers his mom doesn;t have a dick, he's traumatized and this trauma propels him out of the infantile phase of development and into childhood proper. Freud also believes that fetishes, like feet or armpit fetishism, are formed when a young boy is traumatized by his mom's lack of dick and copes with the trauma by inventing an association between the fetishized bodypart and dicks, effectively projecting his mother's penis onto every woman's foot or armpit he sees because he can;t find his own sexual arousal in another person to be acceptable unless that person is passing his mom's throbbing, veiny cock.

Frued also has a lot to say about lesbians and dicks but that's a story for another post.
>>
File: CarlJung.jpg (124KB, 1200x1200px) Image search: [Google]
CarlJung.jpg
124KB, 1200x1200px
>>150838798
u wot m8?
>>
>>150838798
You're just talking about your own fetish now, right?
>>
>>150838798
freudism isnt taken seriously by anyone

so you're just admitting you're a footfag and a fag in the same post. also you want to fuck your mother, apparently
>>
File: 1480039594769.png (117KB, 445x414px) Image search: [Google]
1480039594769.png
117KB, 445x414px
>>150838798
>Frued claims that every boy is born thinking women are naturally futanari and is obsessed with his mom's dick.

I love Frued, I really do. Anytime you see a dick in a piece of art you can take it on a Frueding tangent and have so much fun. It never gets old
>>
File: flip_flap_henshi.jpg (171KB, 819x1024px) Image search: [Google]
flip_flap_henshi.jpg
171KB, 819x1024px
>>150838658
It's faerie imagery
>>
File: CzX_rtVUkAA0ZMt.jpg (243KB, 800x1338px) Image search: [Google]
CzX_rtVUkAA0ZMt.jpg
243KB, 800x1338px
>>150838798
So basically, Papika and Cocona are in deep pure love?
>>
>>150838924
So why do you think the director made the tree looks like a dick.
>>
>>150838798
Freud is the original Futanari enthusiast
>>
>>150838924
Who doesn't want to suck their mother's cock?
>>
>>150838959
i personally didnt notice that the tree looks like a dick until you pointed it out.
>>
>>150838924
The applications to psychiatry are immaterial. Its useful in art because people will produce art and view art with that in mind. Same with Mr Jung above >>150838873
>>
File: ucan.jpg (105KB, 498x747px) Image search: [Google]
ucan.jpg
105KB, 498x747px
>>150838873
Jung I swear to Christ. The return to the womb in episode 4 cemented these threads as my turf. Get your ass outta here or I'm leaving your whole block covered in hot brass
>>
Could Cocona be considered a tomboy?
>>
>>150837429
you should apologize to me for posting this trash.
>>
File: maxresdefault.jpg (98KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
maxresdefault.jpg
98KB, 1280x720px
>>150839020
Definitely not.

She is a pretty little princess.
>>
File: Walther PPK .38 double-action.jpg (88KB, 700x534px) Image search: [Google]
Walther PPK .38 double-action.jpg
88KB, 700x534px
>>150839039
Die
>>
File: wp-1478206729619.jpg (25KB, 1042x556px) Image search: [Google]
wp-1478206729619.jpg
25KB, 1042x556px
Is the clocktower also a dick or a homage to old horror games
>>
>>150838517
So males can self insert.
>>
>>150838952
I can tell Futanon is gonna have loads of fun with Mimi. No matter how it goes, there's going to be a wealth of mother/daughter shenanigans to play off of.
>>
>>150839109
It's both.
>>
>>150839003
i mean i am not going to play that dumb. i get that but you've got enough going on with cocona being pedo-molested by her mother's ex-whore

you're just gonna get people asking if the pendulum in the clocktower is a big swinging dick instead of figuring out the cocona/mimi/papikana love triangle
>>
>>150838952
I think Cocona longs to violently dom Papika but can't actualize it until she gets over her deep-seated mommy issues. The fact that Papika is old enough to be her mother is just going to make that sex all the more awesome when it finally happens.
>>
>>150839047
Well, she's my pretty little princess, so hands off.
>>
File: 1481427216623.jpg (84KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1481427216623.jpg
84KB, 1280x720px
>>150839064
Papika is my favorite meme girl in ages
>>
>>150839111
Is self-inserting as trees the future of anime
>>
>>150839109
for fuck's sakes
>>
>>150839109
Yes.
>>
File: 1481423121922.jpg (49KB, 412x719px) Image search: [Google]
1481423121922.jpg
49KB, 412x719px
REMOVE RABBIT
>>
File: 1480452316955.png (1MB, 500x646px) Image search: [Google]
1480452316955.png
1MB, 500x646px
>>150839144
>you're just gonna get people asking if the pendulum in the clocktower is a big swinging dick instead of figuring out the cocona/mimi/papikana love triangle

Who says it isn't? the interpretation is up to you. That is what makes it so fun, it gets you to engage and think about the work in a new context.
>>
>>150838952
>not "you have to spell it out to people like her, or they'll never get it"
7/10 is the best I can do.
>>
File: cocona.png (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
cocona.png
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>150837568
Fucking incredible.
>>
>>150839064
>Where's Mimi, salt? Huh? Where's Mimi? Where she at? Salt? Salt? WHERE SHE AT SALT?
>>
>>150839151
>I think Cocona longs to violently dom Papika
Of course she does.
>>
>>150839283
To be honest, it's one of the very first things we learn about Cocona
>>
>>150839161
We know you aren't a cute girl, anon. Give it up.
>>
File: flipflappers06.jpg (43KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
flipflappers06.jpg
43KB, 640x360px
This is important
>>
>>150839389
>>
>>150839389
she's potentially in her late 30s/early 40s here
>>
>>150839456
Lucky me, I love cake.
>>
>>150839064
>delete this.png
>>
>>150839619
>No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to delete this.png
>>
File: 1481408693468.jpg (59KB, 483x530px) Image search: [Google]
1481408693468.jpg
59KB, 483x530px
>>150839433
>grips hard object
>turns it on

my sides
>>
File: lip.jpg (41KB, 449x390px) Image search: [Google]
lip.jpg
41KB, 449x390px
>>150839389
>>
File: 1479540619895.jpg (127KB, 1360x760px) Image search: [Google]
1479540619895.jpg
127KB, 1360x760px
>>150837869
Oh fuck, this is all a dream that Yamada is dreaming and Papika is Yamada all along.
>>
>>150837568
And people say FliFla fags aren't /v/ermin
>>
File: ppk.jpg (192KB, 700x534px) Image search: [Google]
ppk.jpg
192KB, 700x534px
>>150839619
>>
>>150839679
>turns on the same hard object that Cocona was about to bite
Was Papika working the prostate?
>>
>>150839818
Metal Gear is anime, anon.
>>
>>150839830
>You know what the most dangerous thing in Japan is, right? A Papika with a library card
>>
File: 1479617535112.png (906KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1479617535112.png
906KB, 1280x720px
Yes. I'm taking care of my wife Cocona and my wife Cocona's girlfriend.
>>
>>150837568
STANDING
ON THE EDGE
OF THE PI
LOOKING AT THE MIMI
>>
>>150839818
Metal Gear is pretty popular anon, not everyone who likes it is from /v/

I'm from /k/, for example
>>
>>150840018
>>150839876
Sure thing /v/ermin
>>
File: 1478036795276.jpg (63KB, 615x346px) Image search: [Google]
1478036795276.jpg
63KB, 615x346px
Oh miss Yayaka, grab my tits!
>>
>>150840263
What tits tho
>>
File: 1480696266545.png (320KB, 453x554px) Image search: [Google]
1480696266545.png
320KB, 453x554px
>>150840263
>>
>>150840263
>miss Yayaka

Yayaka is just an abandoned kitten worth of no respect
>>
>>150840263
>nonexistent tits
>obviously a child predator
>chuuni
>never goes outside
>has no skills besides making tea
>probably has bad hygiene
>liar
>may or may not wear pants

I don't get it. Why cast someone for a worthless character? Does she have a boyfriend?
>>
>>150839064
nice meme 10/10
pure kek
>>
File: 1442807445196.png (779KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
1442807445196.png
779KB, 1024x768px
>>150840263
>>150840317
>>150840387
>flat chuuni christmas cake neet
SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
>>
File: 1481031886812.jpg (409KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
1481031886812.jpg
409KB, 1920x1080px
>>150840387
Beyond the bad hygiene everything you listed was a positive trait. I would drink her tea if you know what I mean.
>>
>>150840387
>may or may not wear pants
Schrodinger's Sayuri?
>>
Will they ignore the corpse in ep1?
>>
>implying Sayuri doesn't get pounded daily by Hidaka and Salt since that's all she's good for

You people are too amai
>>
>>150840646
>salt cheating on his waifu
I'd rather see Yayaka win.
>>
>>150840646
>implying Salt would cheat on Mimi
>implying Hidaka would cheat on his h-game waifu
Get out of here, you pervert.
>>
File: 1480651489221.png (246KB, 505x600px) Image search: [Google]
1480651489221.png
246KB, 505x600px
>>150837429

apologize for what?
>>
>>150840646
>>
>>150840589
She has a name now. We call her AB-chan.
>>
File: 1481471460197.jpg (1MB, 2726x1793px) Image search: [Google]
1481471460197.jpg
1MB, 2726x1793px
Describe this girl.
>>
>>150840646
Hidaka is robosexual
Salt is loyal to his Mimi

Sayuri is obviously in charge of designing outfits for the girls and their medical checkups
>>
File: 1480639001242.png (667KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1480639001242.png
667KB, 1280x720px
>>150840374
The begonias Sayuri gave her cancelled the cuck effect. Yayaka is free to love again.
>>
>>150840803
Gone nuclear.
>>
File: 1481327496425.jpg (81KB, 446x810px) Image search: [Google]
1481327496425.jpg
81KB, 446x810px
>>150840803
My wife.
>>
File: CzaM7cjUoAAW0V4.jpg (123KB, 600x820px) Image search: [Google]
CzaM7cjUoAAW0V4.jpg
123KB, 600x820px
>>150840783
>the cake puppy and the cocoa go off and get married
>Yayaka becomes a drifter superhero
>>
>>150840724
>>150840745
Can you see any other reason why they'd hire her, I'm just trying to be reasonable here
>>
>>150840791
>All the characters have no bust
>first character introduced is "another bust"
I don't understand
>>
File: yokkyun.jpg (15KB, 474x280px) Image search: [Google]
yokkyun.jpg
15KB, 474x280px
>>150840745
Pic related, it's Hidaka's wife
>>
>>150840838
You're not Yayaka.
>>
>>150840803
Tragic

Her entire life and all her friendships were a lie. She has nothing left.
>>
>>150840791
She lived and died to maybe to give us an insight into PPK's mindset.
>>
>>150840847
You can't go into PI if you have tits.
>>
File: 1481290147564.jpg (7KB, 276x279px) Image search: [Google]
1481290147564.jpg
7KB, 276x279px
>>150840916
She has one person left. She just has to open her heart
>>
>>150840967
No wonder Papika's afraid to grow up again
>>
>>150840987
Senpai?
>>
>>150840916
The foundation of all her relationships may have been a lie, but the feelings they all grew from them are 100% pure truth.
>>
>**2,334位/**2,334位 (***,504 pt) [*,**6予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [Blu-ray]

I'm sorry 3Hz, you don't have much time too live.
>>
>>150840916
>She has nothing left.
She's closer to her parents than ever. She's really really close to her mom now.
>>
File: arguing.jpg (201KB, 2285x1080px) Image search: [Google]
arguing.jpg
201KB, 2285x1080px
>>150837455
>>
>>150840987
Sayuri?
>>
File: 500% mad.png (513KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
500% mad.png
513KB, 1280x720px
>>150840838
I don't know who you are. You came just like yesterday. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I have no job anymore. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for dykes like you. If you let my Cocona go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will track you, I will find you, and I will kiss you.
>>
File: Untitled.png (959KB, 496x1600px) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.png
959KB, 496x1600px
>>150841046
I should probably update this
>>
>>150841113
Are they italians
>>
File: 1479411714496.jpg (301KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1479411714496.jpg
301KB, 1280x720px
>>150841146
Good luck.
>>
>>150841113
>>
>>150841320
>that trigger discipline

Who gave a retard a gun?
>>
>>150841320
>gun in bed
>no trigger discipline

Does papika need someone to show her how to operate
>>
>>150841113
>>150841333
Why is there no Bu-chan yet?
Also
>Papika's left hand on the second pic
It's over, 3Hz is finished.
>>
Why is Papika always holding a gun
>>
File: arts_senpai.png (438KB, 493x747px) Image search: [Google]
arts_senpai.png
438KB, 493x747px
Now let's get to what really matters: which Flip would you Flap?

I'd pick Senpai.
>>
>>150841388
It can't be helped
>>
>>150841113
>Proper color direction
>Lighting
>Simulating 720p based mastering
Nice job
>>
File: hands.jpg (50KB, 1456x460px) Image search: [Google]
hands.jpg
50KB, 1456x460px
>>150841388
what do you think of the hands in the frame right after that one
>>
File: 1479791049103.png (659KB, 750x1000px) Image search: [Google]
1479791049103.png
659KB, 750x1000px
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/29/cat-people-dog-people-intelligence_n_5412245.html
>>
>>150841504
>People seriously think this show is nicely animated
My fucking sides. Can't you fags see that this frame that stayed on the screen or 1/24 of a second has shitty frames?
As expected of Flip FLOPpers fans. This shit show doesn't even compare to the good shows airing this season like Drifters, for example (really, that show is jojo tier good).
>>
File: 1481402764638.jpg (35KB, 551x517px) Image search: [Google]
1481402764638.jpg
35KB, 551x517px
>>150841416
Nyunyu
>>
>>150841530
I remember reading a study once that found cats are actually incapable of returning the love and affection their human master presents to them, while dogs behave almost exactly the same as human children when it comes to returning affection.
>>
>>150841183
>Ayyy, youse been sneaking out with my cocona, ya goomba?
>Ayyy, whaddya talkin bout she want nuddin to do with a Sicilian, never even mentioned ya name, she only yellin' one name last night, know what I'm sayin, pisan?
>You little schmuck! I oughtta break'a ya fuckin' face!
>Ahh go an try it! I'll henshin ya right upside da cabeza, capice?
>>
File: CvArDqwVIAAmreS.jpg (220KB, 1200x808px) Image search: [Google]
CvArDqwVIAAmreS.jpg
220KB, 1200x808px
>>150841530
>the huffington post

Cool fake news buddy.
>>
File: spookycoco.jpg (36KB, 477x501px) Image search: [Google]
spookycoco.jpg
36KB, 477x501px
>>150841530
>Cuckingtonpost
Get the fuck out.
>>
>>150841378
YYK is the operator. PPK is >grab sks, go innapipe
>>
>>150841626
Who are the ones on the right?
>>
>>150841693
>he doesn't watch good anime
You should be ashamed of yourself
>>
File: 651866573.jpg (137KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]
651866573.jpg
137KB, 600x800px
>>150841388
but he's been practicing drawing hands for many years now. http://twitpic.com/as3rgt
>>
>>150841811
Those are actually pretty good. Most people can't draw hands for shit
>>
>>150841811
Nice. Also, I'm sure you know, but I couldn't make that bait more obvious.
>>
>>150838798
>Frued also has a lot to say about lesbians and dicks but that's a story for another post.
Hoho, can't just leave that plot thread dangling-- if you get my drift.
>>
File: 1470536046549.jpg (93KB, 790x719px) Image search: [Google]
1470536046549.jpg
93KB, 790x719px
>>150841530
>posting huffington
Anon.
>>
>>150838798
>His mom's dick
I'm sure Freud would be a major trapfag if he were born nowadays.
>>
THE DICK FAPPERS WILL END WITH SALT REUNITING WITH HIS WAIFU MIMI! BELIEB IT!
>>
File: peguins.png (651KB, 670x377px) Image search: [Google]
peguins.png
651KB, 670x377px
>>150837429
Never.
>>
>>150842179
So is the one in the hole yuyu or toto?
>>
>>150841590
>>
>>150838055
she pooped in the shower once
>>
>>150842179
I don't get it.
>>
>>150841403
>Walther PPK, .38, double-action
>>
>>150841416
You can't flip flaps without flip flaps.
>>
https://my.mixtape.moe/ynilne.wav
I don't like using the Gameboy for songs like this because there's too much going on that I'll never fit into 3 tonal channels.
>>
>>150841626
>>150841652
>>150841866
>more butthurt about huffingtonpost than Yayapost
Please follow him on the way out.
>>
>>150842317
Good job
>>
>>150842316
Can I flip YOUR flap?
>>
>>150841590
>>150842244
no wonder her hair looked familiar
>>
>>150842317
OVER THE RAINBOW is the best song ever fuck.
>>
>>150838873
So, Carl, do you think Cockona's going to differentiate her animus? Gain a little self-knowledge "down there" with Papika?
>>
>>150842244
She's also wearing Yayaka-styled ribbons.
>>
File: who.jpg (28KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]
who.jpg
28KB, 300x300px
It's a 100% biological thing.
>>
>>150842324
yayaka actually has sought a purpose and beliefs to follow, which is more than could ever be said about the huffingtonpost
>>
>>150842401
>OVER THE RAINBOW
More like Over the hill amiright?
>>
>>150842317
Hey, this actually sounds pretty good for Gameboy standards.
>>
>>150842317
that third chord should be a DMaj7
>>
>>150841416
Sayuri.
>>
>>150842534
Stop this, she's young at heart
>>
>>150842598
FLFL threads give better criticism than anyone else I ask.
>>
File: 1481336827341.jpg (26KB, 319x298px) Image search: [Google]
1481336827341.jpg
26KB, 319x298px
I'm not a baby anymore, aunty Papikana! I don't need breastfeeding! Save me, Yayaka!
>>
>>150842653
Well so am I, but they won't let me anywhere near a middle school.
>>
>>150842678
Nipples are just tiny dicks with more nutritious ejaculate
>>
File: 1476633977513.jpg (69KB, 602x660px) Image search: [Google]
1476633977513.jpg
69KB, 602x660px
>>150842678
The dumb cat won't save you now.
>>
>>150842747
Is this true?
>>
>>150842807
Only if you want it to be.
>>
>>150842676
https://clyp.it/kcikwub4
>>
>>150842807
Anything can be a dick if you put your mind to it
>>
>>150842747
At last I truly see.
>>
>>150842807
Mechanically, yeah I guess. I'm not happy about it.
>>
Cocona/Mimi and Papika/Papikana are young and old at the same time so it's not really an age gap.
>>
File: 23c55acc.jpg (83KB, 599x337px) Image search: [Google]
23c55acc.jpg
83KB, 599x337px
>Cocona what's wrong you got morning sickness?
>>
>>150842534
>everyone shitting on timewarp Papika
>next week it will be revealed Cocona is hundreds of years old
>age gap yuri between a centuries old woman and a 40 year old scientist both in the bodies of middle schoolers
>>
File: 1479831340708.png (29KB, 240x245px) Image search: [Google]
1479831340708.png
29KB, 240x245px
>>150842807
No? Jesus. Nipples have pores that the milk comes out of, not a urethral opening.
>>
>>150842961
the early days of whatever organization salt sr, papikana and salt jr were part of is honestly way more interesting
>>
File: 1480645533191.png (157KB, 422x309px) Image search: [Google]
1480645533191.png
157KB, 422x309px
>>150842965
prove it
>>
>>150842965
>Nipples have pores that the milk comes out of, not a urethral opening.

Then what do they fuck in my nipplefucking hentai?
>>
>>150842965
What's that hole on the nipple for, then?
>>
>>150843038
A FICTICIOUS OPENING
>>
>>150842747
Nipples are sweat glands, anon. Milk is modified epocrine sweat. they form much closer to the end of embryonic development. It came relatively late in mammalian evolutionary history. Also, did you know that males can lactate if exposed to female hormones? That's because the cells have no mechanism to differentiate by gender, except by becoming activated (or not) by hormones.

Ejaculate is a fluid that carries male gametes. The fluid itself probably comes from highly modified mucous membranes. The gametes arose very soon after the rise of multi-cellular life.

Get your facts straight. Damn.
>>
>>150843044
There is no hole.
>>
>>150843053
bullshit, hentai wouldn't lie to me like that
>>
>>150843084
You know what? This anon is right. My years of reading and scientific training pale in comparison to the things I've learned from hentai doujins.
>>
>>150843053
>implying they'd just make shit up like that
It would be pretty disgusting if they did.
>>
>>150842965
Pour milk for poor ilk from porcine pores that pours for poors
>>
will cockona flip paprika's flaps soon?
>>
File: hiro so stupid.png (346KB, 821x1705px) Image search: [Google]
hiro so stupid.png
346KB, 821x1705px
>>150843053
IT CAN'T BE
>>
>>150843073
Don't try to fuck the nipplehole, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth:
There is no hole.
Then you'll see that it is not the nipple that's fucked, only yourself.
>>
File: 34chq4A.jpg (51KB, 950x532px) Image search: [Google]
34chq4A.jpg
51KB, 950x532px
Cocona is a miracle of the universe. And probably genetic engineering.
>>
>>150843163
No, Cocona is my girlfriend.
>>
>>150843053
What about inverted nipples
>>
>>150843072
From the designer end yeah, but let's look at it from the user end. Stimulate it, it hardens, and with varying amounts of alternating pressure it releases a white liquid. Just the penis works the same all time, but the nipple requires specific conditions.
>>
>>150843129
>years of scientific training
you fool, I have a phd in fappology i've sprayed jizz of monitors and images you couldn't comprehend in your wildest dreams. My penis has long rejected the outcomes of scientific reasoning. While you were crunching numbers I was crunching foreskin and pubic hair in a thrust that would make walls tremble. you are an ant.
>>
The flowers are from the hospital. There were giant flower gardens full of them. Yayaka had flowers, Sayuri had flowers.

Sayuri probably worked at the hospital in whatever position and kept some of the flowers because she thought they were cute.
>>
>>150843530
How long do you think potted plants live, anon?
>>
>>150843530
>Yayaka grinning like an idiot
>Conona being "uh thanks, bro.."

It's the little things.
>>
File: Screenshot_2016-12-12-00-07-42.png (470KB, 1280x800px) Image search: [Google]
Screenshot_2016-12-12-00-07-42.png
470KB, 1280x800px
Okay so we can assume from this brief discussion that Papikana has somehow age reversed and for a while had no memory of doing so but they came back now.

I honestly can't wait to see adult Papika in the next episode but if that somehow means that Cocona will end up with Yayaka instead I will be very dissapointed
>>
>>150843600
It would be sad as fuck if ppk was a lesbian benjamin button.
>>
>>150843325
Uexkull sure is thirsty
>>
I can't watch the episode atm, does anyone have the pic of the supposed dead girl from ep1?

Was it Papikas last partner? Does that mean others have amorphous in them?
>>
>>150843600
Yayaka will die for the greater good
>>
>>150843600
The only reason Cocona ending up with anybody was a possibility was because they spent 9 episodes developing a blatantly more-than-friends relationship between the two of them without actually putting it to use with lesbian fanservice or "subtle" sex innuendo like most yuribait shows do.

Even with all that, actually giving a canon lesbian end to a show that didn't announce itself as yuri in promo material was like a 1% chance.

Episode 10 pissed on that 1% chance. The only hope now would be if they rebounded from 10's low point to a 3-point romantic gesture in 11 and made the lesbian romance so blatant it became completely undeniable. Anything less will put the lilies in the grave alongside Cocona's grandma.
>>
>>150843763
*Papika
>>
>>150843777
Is it Tuesday yet???
>>
>>150843841
Yayaka*
>>
>>150843880
*Papika
>>
>>150843939
puppycat
>>
Cocona is so in love with Papika that she can't stand the idea that any other person might mean anything to her.
>>
>>150843777
>Even with all that, actually giving a canon lesbian end to a show that didn't announce itself as yuri in promo material was like a 1% chance.
Which jumped to a crazy high chance of at least 70% when episode 7 rolled around.

Calm down, it'll all work out.
>>
>>150843777
>Since they established stakes and put the characters at their lowest point, it would take some sort of escalation in the final act to cement everything the show has been about. This never happens.

how have you survived in a world with moving objects this long?

the 3 pointer is coming in 12 or 13, depending on how much flashback they need to do
>>
>>150843939
Yayaka*
>>
>>150843951
Cocona is gonna turn yandere on Papika.
>>
>>150844014
This.

My god it's like people on /a/ don't even know basic story structure.

"But anime sucks", you say. I agree, but Flip Flappers has been delivering on every story front so far, so I see no real reason it wouldn't deliver on its ending unless there was some sort of massive internal upset, and nothing points to that at all.

Remember that every single plot point in 10 was foreshadowed beforehand.
>>
>>150837568
Everything about V is bad.
>>
>>150844014
The problem is that there's about a million different ways to escalate from this point that don't involve romantic reconciliation, and it seems far more likely that they'll go with one of those than actually give us what we want.

You want to kill a romance dead, dead, dead? Bring in the fact that one of the relationship partner's has a history with the other's mother. That shit is kiss kryptonite. In general the moment freud enters a relationship in any meaningful way, that relationship ceases to exist. If they wanted to turn this into a romantic conclusion, they wouldn't have needed to turn Papika into a cake. It's the death knell for any possibility of romance. You'll understand come thursday when Papikana and Cocona reconcile by affirming their feelings as taisetsu no tomodachi, hug, and then that's it.

This is their last chance to say "fuck all the rules, we gay romance now" but let's be honest here, it's not likely.
>>
What species of mammal is Yookooxkyeulleuyyll?
>>
>>150844316
a dead one
>>
>>150844316
He's a wabbit.
>>
>>150844234
Stop fear mongering already, jesus. You really think the director, who is a massive yurifag, wouldn't at least leave things more open ended than "Girl A and Girl B, and Girl B fucked the other girl's mom and is also 40 years old"? I mean come the fuck on.
>>
>>150837598
>I need my hand held to find threads
>>
>>150844416
Not him, but I agree that if this plot is to go in any sort of romantic direction, then they need to address the issue of Papika's age right now.
>>
>>150840916
There used to be a Cocona here.
But now there's just emptiness.
>>
>>150837680
Actually it was in the catalog that I recognized the thread immediately from seeing the most ridiculous looking hair in anime in the OP
>>
File: Miyu embarrassed.jpg (226KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
Miyu embarrassed.jpg
226KB, 1920x1080px
>>150840803
Fuckin' hot.
>those legs
>that skirt
>the tights
>thighs to die for

And that's just her lower half.
>>
>>150844234
>one of the relationship partner's has a history with the other's mother.
Twilight's ending begs to differ. It even has a puppy lover.
>>
>>150844485
I mean, all it would need to do to address it is have Cocona say "I don't care if you're old enough to be my mother, I love you for you. Please go out with me"

That wouldn't address the issues that anons have with Papika's age but it would at least tackle the issue enough to pave the way for a romantic end and kissu finale.

I just don't think they'll do that.
>>
>>150844234
>The problem is that there's about a million different ways to escalate from this point that don't involve romantic reconciliation

That's not escalation, that's the exact opposite. Fuck's sake, they had them trapped in a chaste women's boarding school where nothing ever advanced, presented it as horror, then resolved it by by Cocona forcing things to advance by ringing the bell. It's quite clear what the intentions are.

It is unlikely, because resolving the central conflict with two episodes to go is too early.
>>
>>150844485
I certainly agree there too, but you all do also realize that this episode was supposed to be an extremely emotional low point for Cocona, and we still have half of Papika(na)'s backstory to cover. Everything as the way it is right now makes perfect sense within the broader narrative.
>>
>>150844485
>need to address the issue of Papika's age right now.
I'd like to see them put Papika on the back burner for an episode or two while Cocona deals with the family side of her problems. Then That prepares her for dealing with her love life. It would make Ep. 13 really powerful if we didn't even see young Papika in 11 and 12.
>>
>>150844589
It's pretty obvious to me that episode 11 will be even worse/more intense stakes for Cocona (or at least some serious shit going down), while 12 and 13 will involve the final showdown.
>>
Papikana's going to be the main bad guy.
>>
File: 1479230844139.jpg (129KB, 739x702px) Image search: [Google]
1479230844139.jpg
129KB, 739x702px
>>150844610
>It would make Ep. 13 really powerful if we didn't even see young Papika in 11 and 12.
I'm glad you don't write this anime because that's an awful idea.
>>
>>150844649
And Nyunyu?
>>
>>150844684
The other half of the direct drive. They fuse together into papikana's adult form.
>>
File: 1476235145872.jpg (34KB, 318x402px) Image search: [Google]
1476235145872.jpg
34KB, 318x402px
Smiled when ep 10 was over, this show is going exactly where I wanted it to. AOTY
>>
>>150844722
Nigger if the anime had started here I wouldn't have watched it.
>>
>>150844722
I bet you flip your flaps to this shit you sick fuck
>>
>>150844610
Disagree. I'd rather they show the viewer whats up with Papicakes in 11, with minimal Cocona. That way we have all the info we need to follow Papika as she goes to rescue Cocona by convincing her Papika loved her for her, not Mimi.

I'd really like a decent hand wave about the relationship between Cakes/PPK tho. I don't think they're the same person in the strictest sense.
>>
>>150844696
I was about to mention the whole 'direct drive' deal. I wonder if that's the way they'll actually go with it?
>>
>>150837790
Why be Frank when you could just be yourself?
>>
>>150844696
They called Nyunyu a new amorphous child, so she's definitely not the 2nd half.

Mimi seems the most obvious candidate for the 2nd half.
>>
File: good_girl.png (183KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]
good_girl.png
183KB, 500x281px
>>150844684
Nyunyu is a good girl.
>>
>>150844743
>he wouldn't watch an anime that starts off systematically ruining its protagonist's life in a myriad of ways
get a load of this guy
>>
While possessing Cocona, Mimi is going to give Cocona a crash course on maturity using PI magic. Maybe she'll take Cocona through her own memories, giving her decades of life experience over the course of a day or something. Cocona will then have a mental age similar to Papika and they'll live happily ever after.
>>
>>150844793
Why be Mimi when you could just be yourself?
>>
>>150844760
>That way we have all the info we need to follow Papika as she goes to rescue Cocona by convincing her Papika loved her for her, not Mimi.
If the OP and ED are any indication, that's not how this story ends.
>>
>>150844837
>show about slowly learning your way through growing up
>nevermind, just download adulthood through the yuri matrix lol
Fuck you.
>>
>>150844822
Salt might also be, if by direct drive they mean "driving mimi"
>>
>>150844869
Oh, I'm sure Salt has experience driving Mimi, if you catch his drift.
>>
>>150844839
Because I am empty, and unable to resist my mind and body being subsumed.
>>
>>150844869
No wonder the Grand Wizard seemed so upset about the direct drive. He must've been listening to his son drive his flip directly into Mimi's flaps every night for years before finally turning his girlfriend into pebbles.
>>
>>150844743
I can't think of any reason not to like it. What makes you feel that way?
>>
>>150844836
Nah, it's not about the despair. It's about how much of an asspull it seems to be.

I know all this shit was "foreshadowed" but FLFL presented itself so differently that I thought it wasn't going to eventually veer into the average samey anime sci-fi "WE ARE MEN PLAYING WITH GREAT POWER" direction. I thought it was planning to subvert all that crap.
>>
>>150844849
You mean the other way around? Yeah I'm hoping for that, I just don't want to jinx it.
>>
>>150844930
>Salt's dad wanted to put his flip into test subject 33's flap
>he got cucked by his own son
>>
>>150844867
>have a bunch of trauma and deceit plaguing your past? Dragging you down?
>hire a professional deep PI spelunker TODAY and have all your life issues solved faster than you can say f-frip furappingu with absolutely no effort whatsoever on your behalf!

How mad would you be if this is how they solve Cocona's present situation like they did with Iro-senpai?
>>
>>150844957
You should watch Koukaku no Pandora
>>
>>150844931
It's exactly like a hundred other anime.
>>
File: 1479576632420.png (955KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1479576632420.png
955KB, 1280x720px
>Falling for your dog
>>
>>150844839
>red eyes
>Cocona = lesbian version of Izetta
>Mimi = Sophia
>Papika = lesbian version of Fine
>Yayaka = Bianca
You know its true.
>>
>>150844930
So who do you all think Tobi is?
>>
>>150844968
>literally give girl life when you make her in a lab
>set her up in sweet room
>lots of cute teddy bears and toys
>set her up with multiple play dates
>keep her safe with crack security detail
>give her a real name, sure its a pun on her serial number, but still counts
>she rides your son's dick instead
I guess we all have our crosses to bear KKK-kun.
>>
>>150844867
But the memories and shit they know are hardly relevant to their current selves. What kind of life do you think Mimi and Papikana were living before Mimi shattered? From the preview for episode 11, Papikana(noticeably older) visits Mimi's room at the facility. Both Mimi and Papikana lived as experiments their entire lives. It's not unlikely that both of them are totally unfamiliar with the world Cocona inhabits. Cocona and Papika are also in the bodies of teenagers if we assume Papika is completely organic. They will still learn their way through growing up, but in a totally new environment.
>>
>>150845070
>muh izetta
Fuck off.
>>
>>150844976
>yayaka has to dive into deep PI and experience her own NTR
That's harsh.
>>
>>150845070
Cocona > Izetta
Papika < Fine i want Saori to whisper lewd things to me
Yayaka > Bianca
>>
>>150845173
Fine a shit bro.
>>
File: CwqgIY3VQAAhooF.jpg orig.jpg (110KB, 783x587px) Image search: [Google]
CwqgIY3VQAAhooF.jpg orig.jpg
110KB, 783x587px
>>150844976
In Earth 2 Papika never showed up and Cocona's dating Senpai. Yayaka in rage trashes the art room.
>>
>>150845247
BRING SENPAI BACK COCONA YOU RUINED HER
>>
>>150845229
Izetta is a shit show in general, but god fucking damn it Fine has a fine voice.
>>
File: 1479410353401.png (685KB, 1122x1062px) Image search: [Google]
1479410353401.png
685KB, 1122x1062px
>>150845070
Man, Izetta's pretty much knm. Shitty everything but the main pair's decent.
>>
>>150845269
>hey mom, since we're just using your PI powers to do whatever, could 34 make a little stop. I kinda broke my senpai a while back
>>
>>150845353
>34
>we
goodnight /a/
>>
File: CxVJ3IFVQAAomh6.jpg orig.jpg (22KB, 430x320px) Image search: [Google]
CxVJ3IFVQAAomh6.jpg orig.jpg
22KB, 430x320px
>>150845353
>34
>>
>>150845328
Holy fuck this image was right all along.
How could I have ever doubted you, /a/?
>>
File: 1477908660488.jpg (179KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
1477908660488.jpg
179KB, 1920x1080px
Tanomo!
>>
>>150845426
Nanda omae?
>>
>>150845247
>Earth is resetted
>we see Yayaka and Cocona standing under a tree
>please go out with me Cocona
>I'm sorry Yayaka-san, there's already someone that I love
>I know, this person are you sure she's even out there?
>I know she is
>flash forward
>Cocona is seen crossing the street
>on the other side someone we don't see her face
>but a distinguishable red hair
>Cocona sees this person
>she smiles and they embrace
>the end
>>
>>150845328
>rapist
Does Statutory count?
>>
I think what makes this episode so hard for me to define my feelings about is that it lays out despair on so many layers. First off, there's the despair in-narrative. Everything's gone to crap for the protagonist. On it's own, this would be wonderful, it would make me feel like this shit actually matters, and that they must be planning a grand finale that makes it all OK. Amazing even.

At least I'd feel that way if it wasn't for the TWEESTS revealed in this episode that invalidate so much of what I found appealing about the show before. It's no longer about two young people embarking on journeys of mutual discovery that leave them both better than they were before-- it's now mostly about how the boring adult characters have been controlling their lives this whole time, and, to add insult to injury, one of my most beloved characters wasn't at all who or what the show had emotionally set me up to regard her as.

It feels like I've been lied to, and not in the good exciting way.

I am not against age-gap yuri, I am not against papika's age-regression. I feel absolutely no disgust at how things unfolded, so don't think I'm one of those YURI IS TOO PURE faggots. I really feel terrible about the plot. It's not even a bad plot, it's actually really surprising and cool.

What makes it so hard is I still like Papika, I still like Cocona, I still even like Salt and the other FF staff. Papika going directly to Cocona to talk about what she remembers was exactly what I would have had Papika do. But their new situation is just so unlike what I was ready to experience.

This is the second layer of despair. It's that the creators have lost their way, or that they never really related to what it was that made the show so special to us in the first place, never saw it how we seemed to see it. We were reading a message that was never really there.
>>
>>150845454
tl;dr show was always shit but now things at least make sense.
>>
File: 1478194086653.jpg (29KB, 281x286px) Image search: [Google]
1478194086653.jpg
29KB, 281x286px
Scarjo as Papika and Ellen Page as Cocona.
>>
>>150845353
>34
Why does this sound lewd to me?
>>
>>150845579
It's Papika's age
>>
>>150845549
>not Emma Stone papika
>>
>>150845521
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. That it was always standard sci-fi anime fare handled ineptly, and through dumb luck (or, I hate to say it, through Yunico's influence) it seemed to be signaling some underlying themes that it wasn't.
>>
>>150844993
Why? Is it worse or better?
>>
>>150845454
Is this next level bait or has half of /a/ never read a fucking book in their lives
>>
Probably the best thing about this show is the title.

Help me, those two words won't come out of my head
>>
File: 1429250371616.jpg (109KB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]
1429250371616.jpg
109KB, 1200x675px
Age gap's fine as long as the hag looks cute.
>>
>>150845678
You can't keep going back to that weak ass "STORY STRUCTURE" argument. There's no objective standard you can hold any art to to determine its worth. What's important is the feelings it arouses in its audience, and this, unless director-san is some kind of eighth-dimensional genius, seems nadir-bound to failure.
>>
>>150845633
It about a yuri-dork cyborg and her cat-maid-lolibot being yuri-dorks, that just happens to be set in the GitS universe(sort of) make up your own mind.
>>
>>150845328
Papika hardly qualifies for half of those, though.
>>
>>150845633
It does exactly what you were asking for and was one of the best shows of the year.
>>
>>150845790
Neat, I'll give it a shot.
>>
>>150837429
I'd apologize if she actually flip flapping.
>>
>>150845755
>"STORY STRUCTURE" argument
This. Sometimes new revelations just rub you the wrong way.
>>
File: 454678uyihjg.jpg (102KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
454678uyihjg.jpg
102KB, 1280x720px
>>150845814
Great job you embarrassed her happy now?
>>
>>150845678
And don't think I don't understand where you're coming from. I loved the story enough that I was willing to defend it for a while, and wasn't willing to let go of the glorious yuri-tastic dream I thought it was unfolding.

I still have high hopes for it. I still want it to be great, and end with all the best characters happy.
>>
>>150845755
You're alright.
>>
>>150845454
That second layer of despair is filled with assumptions so I'll ignore that.

>It's no longer about two young people embarking on journeys of mutual discovery that leave them both better than they were before--
I don't see how this is the case. Getting over this recent drama is going to be extremely important for them and I don't see how this drama "invalidates" anything about the show. That's more of a feeling though so I can understand that.
>it's now mostly about how the boring adult characters have been controlling their lives this whole time
"Mostly" probably isn't the word to use. It was obvious from the first minutes of the show that there were people behind the scenes. People suspected grandma right out of the gate and there were all sorts of hints that there was something darker underneath the fun and adventure. That doesn't mean the adventures never happened or that the characters didn't have meaningful experiences or growth.
>>
I like the direction that the show is going in. That said, for the love of god, there are few mechanics in storytelling that are worse than flashbacks, and I hope they keep that to a minimum in the coming episodes.
>>
>>150845933
Not enough flip flap and naked transformation
>>
>>150845755
>What's important is the feelings it arouses in its audience
You're right and episode 10 is a poignant example of this. Cocona is feeling that her life is fucked and now the audience(at least some part of it) is feeling that the show is fucked. I'd say it's anything but a failure.
>>
>>150846065
I like flashbacks
its like having a history book of a fantasy world
>>
>>150845860
Sometimes that's the point, you know.
>>
>>150846160
This.
I also love dedicated flashback episodes because it's like cracking open a short-story in the middle of a novel, but having them both intimately interconnected.

It reminds me a lot of the sort of metatextuality when a book has an internal stage performance or poem or song or something.
>>
So now there's legit more people thinking FF ending will be a downer, what is wrong with these people?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11831684/r
>>
>>150846227
EoE was a happy ending
>>
>>150845950
>I don't see how this is the case.
Mutual was the key phrase there. Now we know that all these experiences meant nowhere near as much to Papika as they did to Cocona.

>It was obvious from the first minutes of the show that there were people behind the scenes.
Cocona seemed like an everyman(everygirl?) character, just an oddball who fell through the cracks and couldn't really adjust to the world as easily as her peers.

Now we know that she was the chosen one, whom the shadowy powers had been watching her, and probably to some extent controlling her, from the start. She wasn't taken away from her mundane life by the adventure-- it was always destined to find her in one way or another because she was the chosen one.

And I know that we always knew she had the shard in her leg, but there are ways that could have been handled without just upending everything.

>>150846140
That was the point of me making the distinction between the "layers of despair." Yes, we've got despair in-narrative, but also outside of the narrative too.

There seems to be a general reluctance by a lot of people on here to accept critique of the show.
>>
>>150846227
Yurifags that are assuming their Yuri is broken and can no longer be fixed based on a single line and a second long clip from a preview. I assume many of them will change their attitudes to episode 10 once it becomes clear that the yuri is fine.
>>
>>150846227
I don't want a downer, but I don't want a happy ending either. Bittersweet is always best...or if they can't help it, then it has to be a hard earned happy ending. Not a friendship-and-love-conquers-all ending like what most of the fanbase seems to want for some reason.
>>
>>150846282
The yuri could be totally fine and I'd still be bummed out.
>>
>>150846261
>a lot of people
Most of the responses that go rabid over this line of critique share the same diction. There's not many rabid fans, they're just vocal.
>>
>>150846243
"happy" in a way that everything was resolved. I'm talking more about some saccharine happy here.
>>
>>150846284
A hard-earned happy ending would be great.
>>
>>150846261
>There seems to be a general reluctance by a lot of people on here to accept critique of the show.

You know media is supposed to elicit a reaction in its audience right? Maybe, and hear me out, a bad one to get you invested in the fate of the characters and make the pay off mean something?
>>
>>150846261
>Now we know that all these experiences meant nowhere near as much to Papika as they did to Cocona.
That's bullshit though, you cant retroactively alter the meaning an experience had to you at the time it happened because of memories you weren't aware of.

>Cocona seemed like an everyman(everygirl?) character, just an oddball who fell through the cracks and couldn't really adjust to the world as easily as her peers.
Kind of like Shinji in Evangelion hey?
>>
>>150846354
>Maybe, and hear me out, a bad one to get you invested in the fate of the characters and make the pay off mean something?
I don't think you've been reading me that carefully. I specifically said that would be an awesome thing.
>>
>>150846261
>Now we know that all these experiences meant nowhere near as much to Papika as they did to Cocona.
Thank you anon.
Unless they try to make a point of how Cocona had a bigger impact on her life than Mimi, the whole last 10 episodes have just been a chapter in Papika's life rather than defining moments.
>>
How long until the previews come out?
>>
>>150846425
Like 30 hours
>>
>>150846382
My bust, I got you confused with another anon.
>>
>>150846362
>That's bullshit though, you cant retroactively alter the meaning an experience had to you at the time it happened because of memories you weren't aware of.
I know most people are smug as shit when they accuse someone else of cognitive dissonance, but you're showing it like a neon billboard. I really don't mean to be smug here, as smug as that sounds.
>>
>>150846362
>you cant retroactively alter the meaning an experience had to you at the time it happened because of memories you weren't aware of.
No?

Think back to the websites you browsed when you were 13. Go look at what your online handle was and the kinds of things you posted.

You experience memories through your present context. If that means you experience memories of when you tried to be cool and now shudder with private embarrassment because your context is knowing better, or that you experience memories of magical lesbian adventures where you learned your way through puberty with your childhood soulmate and now chuckle to yourself because your context is having already done that all before and knowing how pointless and silly it all was and how little your childish issues mattered; it's all your present context changing the meaning behind your memories.

The memory Papika has of sharing those adventures with Cocona are indelibly stained with her present context of being a 40 year old woman. How can you not wrap your head around this?
>>
>>150845454
>At least I'd feel that way if it wasn't for the TWEESTS revealed in this episode that invalidate so much of what I found appealing about the show before. It's no longer about two young people embarking on journeys of mutual discovery that leave them both better than they were before-- it's now mostly about how the boring adult characters have been controlling their lives this whole time, and, to add insult to injury, one of my most beloved characters wasn't at all who or what the show had emotionally set me up to regard her as.

This whole paragraph is just full of unconfirmed assumptions and overreaction.

>What makes it so hard is I still like Papika, I still like Cocona, I still even like Salt and the other FF staff. Papika going directly to Cocona to talk about what she remembers was exactly what I would have had Papika do. But their new situation is just so unlike what I was ready to experience.

You know that this is just the setup for a reconciliation right?
>>
>>150846261
>This is the second layer of despair. It's that the creators have lost their way, or that they never really related to what it was that made the show so special to us in the first place, never saw it how we seemed to see it. We were reading a message that was never really there.
If this is what you meant by out-of-narrative despair then it's totally personal/subjective and has no merit if your intent is to critique the show. I won't say you can't feel that way, but many people don't.

>She wasn't taken away from her mundane life by the adventure-- it was always destined to find her in one way or another because she was the chosen one
She was taken to an alternate dimension/universe. It's not something anyone can do so of course she's special. Her lack of awareness of her "chosen one" status is far more important than the fact that she is the chosen one.
>>
>>150846460
Why are you arguing about things that I haven't mentioned?
>you cant retroactively alter the meaning an experience had to you at the time
>at the time

The experiences meant every bit as much to Papika when we observed them happening regardless of what her perception is now and you have literally no idea what her perception is now, from everything we have seen on screen she very much still feels the same way about Cocona as ever.
>>
>>150846301
The real problem I have with these critiques is that they are almost always wrapped up in assumptions about what has happened to Papika as a character and her relationship to Cocona as a result of that when nothing was made particularly clear. It will seem pretty dumb by Thursday if it turns out that Papika isn't really all that different from how we thought she was and is just the same person who happens to have some memories of a past self she no longer is.
>>
>>150846460
>The memory Papika has of sharing those adventures with Cocona are indelibly stained with her present context of being a 40 year old woman.

I don't really understand this. Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't Papika not have her memories until just recently? Her older self and mentality were not a part of those adventures. What happened was more like she was experiencing her childhood again along with Cocona, so in that sense they were equals during their adventures.
>>
>>150837429

She's the coolest in the OP (2nd is spinning rocket twin). Probably the coolest combat form in the show. I still don't know how she manages to control those whips so accurately.
>>
>>150846627
> It will seem pretty dumb by Thursday if it turns out that Papika isn't really all that different from how we thought she was and is just the same person who happens to have some memories of a past self she no longer is.

I hope this isn't the case. She's going to retain a large part of what makes her Papika, but I'd still like to see some personality change in her as a result of her regaining her memory.
>>
>>150846644
>What happened was more like she was experiencing her childhood again along with Cocona, so in that sense they were equals during their adventures
Yes, but now that her adult memories are back, that childhood self has been killed before our eyes. Don't you understand?
>>
>>150846688
She literally immediately differentiated herself from the old Papika when Salt compared them and said that she wasn't Papikana anymore even being aware she had memories.
>>
>>150846460
She's a 40 year old woman that has lived as an experiment her entire fucking life. You and I have the luxury of freedom to pursue whatever dumb shit we want. Papika(na) was a prisoner that could only learn and experience things that had been approved by her 'owners'. Her 40 year old mind could very well be extremely similar to her 14 year old mind in terms of knowledge and memories. Age does not necessitate experience/wisdom. I doubt the KKK let her leave the premises and the only thing she knew was PI, a world so far removed from reality that you can grow bunny ears and a tail. Your applying the context of an average person to Papika(na) who is anything but average both in upbringing and disposition.
>>
>>150846460
Okay, but remember your good memories from back then. A bit rose tinted, no? It goes both ways
>>
>>150846701
Not if you consider those new memories foreign to yourself.
>>
>>150846393
To a slave, one chapter of freedom is probably far more important than 40 years of imprisonment.
>>
>>150846529
>but many people don't
And many people DO, and of those who claim not to, they're kind of wishywashy and vague as to why all of it is still OK. I sympathize, with them, I really do, but cognitive dissonance and all that shit that's the last time I'm using that word god damn.
>>
>>150846764
>Not if you consider those new memories foreign to yourself.
That's a form of denial, which ain't healthy and doesn't read as healthy for a character to do.

And they're not that foreign, since she talked to Salt like an old friend.
>>
>>150846724
Interactive therapy for a developmentally stunted, mentally-handicapped regressive 40 year old is much less endearing than coming-of-age between two youths just figuring out life and how to navigate their differences.

I don't buy Papikana being a charity case but even if she was, it still re-contextualizes their previous relationship in a bad way.
>>
>>150846769
>they're kind of wishywashy and vague as to why all of it is still OK
This seems to be the case for both sides, honestly.
>>
>>150846787
Yet at the same time in the same conversation she said that she wasn't that person anymore. Which seems to indicate she feels at least some separation from those experiences.
>>
>>150846806
>Interactive therapy for a developmentally stunted, mentally-handicapped regressive 40 year old is much less endearing than coming-of-age between two youths just figuring out life and how to navigate their differences.
Not that anon, bit it seems pretty cogent to me.

That tangent I went off on about Cocona being the chosen one was probably ill-advised, but it just expresses my overall distaste for how things are going. I don't like "chosen one" plots in the first place, but that's really outside of my overall critique of FLFL. I should not have brought it up.
>>
>>150846751
Back then those were good memories. They became bad ones because my context changed. My good memories are good largely because my present context continues to valorize the things I valued in them.

It's sort of like how getting your ass beat for doing something bad might be a bad memory early in your life, and become a good one as your older self recognizes the value of that important life lesson being beaten raw into your backside.If I suddenly got amnesia and was sent back to redo the 4th grade, the first thing I would think after regaining my memories isn't "wow look at all these great relationships I formed with 4th graders" It would be "fuck, look at how much of my life I just wasted redoing the 4th grade. I gained nothing from this that I didn't already have from decades ago"
>>
>>150846787
>That's a form of denial
Also it isn't necessarily denial at all. Imagine a disease that put false memories into your head. Would you not try to keep differentiating between the real ones and the created ones that don't feel like they belong to you but just showed up? Sounds fairly reasonable to me. We don't even know how this current Papika relates to the old one in a physical sense yet and considering we know people can be created they could just as easily be entirely separate and the memories have gotten implanted in her by some PI magic. So many assumptions you have to make to support the idea that the relationship between them has changed dramatically. It may feel like despair currently and that is clearly on purpose.
>>
>>150846644
>experiencing her childhood again along with Cocona
"Again" I think is the key word here. Cocona, and the audience as well, thought Papika and Cocona were having unique and special experiences. It turns out now that one of the girls was getting to relive her past.
Maybe they try to resolve this emphasizing that the PapiMimi trips to PI were fundementally different than the PapiCoco ones. That they were less life changing adventures, and more lab rats sent into the maze.
>>
Would any of this be emotionally resolved if Papika turned out to be Cocona's real mother instead?
>>
So, can we assume the guy complaining about old Papika is doing nothing but projecting his own anxieties about being too old himself and unable to live his childhood again?
>>
>>150846899
She had no memories of her previous adventures until recently. It was as unique an experience for Papika as it was for Cocona, barring any trips into PI the former may have made just around the time before they met when she still had memory loss.
>>
>>150846795
>much less endearing than coming-of-age between two youths just figuring out life and how to navigate their differences
Yeah cause there sure isn't enough of that already. I like the idea that a teenager, as inexperienced and ignorant as they are, can still be a great source of support, growth, and comfort to someone much older. It's like a reversal of the "respect your elders" message. Circumstances are important in relationships, romantic or not, and we know too little about Papika's.
>>
>>150846928
Would you be totally comfortable going back to 4th grade? Being uncomfortable going back to childhood as an adult is kind of justified.
>>
File: 1479152698416.png (88KB, 235x190px) Image search: [Google]
1479152698416.png
88KB, 235x190px
Put the title in the subject field, you assholes
>>
>>150846857
But its not the exact same thing over. It's "Oh, I was raised as a science experiment around orphan murder" to "I had a wonder experience with someone I truly loved and learned a lot about myself and how relationships work. Really changed my umwelt"
>>
File: mpc-hc 2016-12-12 17-57-01-19.jpg (51KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
mpc-hc 2016-12-12 17-57-01-19.jpg
51KB, 1280x720px
relevant.
>>
>>150846857
And just to add:
I would think very ill of someone who went through this imaginary "repeat the 4th grade due to amnesia" scenario and felt anything other than dismay at the time they wasted.

I get that Papika being regressive is a theme that's underlined the whole show and been foreshadowed thoroughly, but the fact that they decided to handle that regression by making her an age-changing adult with amnesia is just a poor way to approach the subject. It's very difficult to reconcile her now without either accepting that she's a mental reprobate or that 2/3 of the show where as wasted as a an adult repeating the 4th grade.
>>
>>150847014
In that context it sounds more like an expression of pity than "Hey, you're still a kid! Go do kid stuff!"
>>
>>150846899
Or they could resolve it by Papika (current) just not feeling like her and Papika past are the same person and possibly not even physically being the same person. They already made the point that Papika doesn't feel like she is the same person and that Papika still likes Cocona for Cocona.
>>
File: 1476511447268.png (445KB, 555x672px) Image search: [Google]
1476511447268.png
445KB, 555x672px
>>150839047
>Cocona
>Feminine
>>
>>150846973
See the thing is this assumes that Papika is now suddenly a knowledgeable adult woman trapped inside a young females body who will now be radically different in thought process and actions. That hasn't been shown to be the case at all.
>>
>>150847029
It was a shot back at Papika calling him mean. He could have just as easily said "and you're as unruly as ever" if they wanted to be more direct with the audience, but the specificity wasn't necessary because Salt and Papikana know each other very well, Papikana knows exactly what unchanged things are being referenced.

I can't fathom why people miss the context and try to take that line literally. All his diction indicates is that he's speaking casually with somebody he knows very well.
>>
>>150846948
>It was as unique an experience for Papika
At the time, but now they are not. Papika has to feel this right? She has to feel that on some level she repeated a good chunk of her life. If she doesn't, I think the show needs to explain why.

I think this is also important to understanding why Cocona is so upset. She's not just jealous, she's afraid she isn't as special as she thought she was to Papika.
>>
>>150846973
I would be totally uncomfortable because I'd have those memories of me being adult and my personality would feel drastically changed, meaning that my route through this newfound childhood would be completely changed and not in a good way. I'd also have to live again all those hard moments in my life that I would absolutely hate to live again.

People can talk shit about adulthood all they want, having other people mature and not asshole is really a good thing. I don't give a shit about their inner depression and other yearnings about rose-tinted stuff.
>>
>>150847058
I don't like what you're implying, bud
>>
>>150847075
This hasn't BEEN SHOWN at all. Right now, all this other fag is doing is ASSUMPTIONS PROJECTIONS ASSUMPTIONS

Ignore.
>>
>>150847123
u mad?
>>
So we all agree that Papika will end up with Mimi inside of PI forever leaving Yayaka to win the Cocona bowl right?
>>
>>150847151
Yeah, I'd like it if people could be a little more rational and stop projecting their own anxieties when reviewing something, your shitty lives aren't of any interest.
>>
>>150846973
Assuming I didn't age beyond the oldest point I'd reached, I think it'd be a really neat experience to do K-12 again(with no memories of the previous schooling) and then after graduation get all those memories back at once. It'd be a unique kind of mind fuck.
>>
File: 1481428157694.png (1MB, 991x716px) Image search: [Google]
1481428157694.png
1MB, 991x716px
>>150847109
What's wrong with saying that Cocona is a tomboy? I would say she's 75 percent masculine, 25 percent feminine.
>>
>>150847037
There are a lot of these "two papika" theories, but they just get around the issue of Papika having historical baggage rather than solving the tension.
If you think this is the way to go, you're already conceding the point that this Papikana nonsense has robbed the relationship of some of its magic. You're basically saying the best way to fix this problem created by Papika's past is to get rid of Papika's past.
>>
>>150847190
But wouldn't it feel like what you are right now? If you didn't have memories, that means no alterations. Which would mean, by definition, that the memories would be the same and you wouldn't be able to differenciate one "timeline" from the other. You wouldn't even be able to tell you're actually lived this "life" again.
>>
>>150847213
What percentage are you?
>>
>>150847259
100% feminine. Just like everybody else around here, anon-kun.
>>
>>150847090
I don't like childhood because of the complete lack of choice. Whatever your circumstances are that make you unhappy or anxious or whatever else, there's nothing you can do about it (and that's not going to change for years). Childhood is entrapment, adulthood is freedom.
>>
>>150847024
It's not really wasted time if you ultimately end up being younger than you were before the memory shit. Papika was given more time in fact.
>>
>>150847244
Memory is a little bit weird. It's based on connections between things-- I think your experience of such a thing would be more like remembering two different places you've worked, all the people there etc. Totally separate, since they have no direct connection to each other. You might not know which one came first offhand, but comparing the years you wrote when putting a date on your homework papers would give you a hint.
>>
Papika is a clone of the original Papikana and Cocona is a clone of Mimi. Papika is meant to be a vessel for Papikana, and it seems that the 'transfer' has been completed with her memories returning. The girl we saw in the first episode who seemingly died as a 'bust' was a failed Mimi clone, and Papika obviously didn't give two shits about her because she was a failed vessel for Mimi. In other words, Cocona was right about Papika only treating her as a substitute. Worst girl.
>>
>>150847300
Adulthood is entrapment too anon. You probably haven't been an adult long.
>>
It occurs to me that "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T GROW UP" and "living your childhood over again just makes it less special" might be actually intended themes the director wanted to invoke through adult Papika, and that it's all playing in to the framing conceit of Cocona's confrontation with her own burgeoning adulthood.

The rest of the show has been tragically undermined, but also deliberately sacrificed in a "shatter the illusion" sort of way to reveal to Cocona and the viewer that her flights of fancy running from the responsibilities of growing up were actually just pathetic escapism, and that being on the mental level of Papika is not something one should strive for or pride themselves in.

Connotation being obscured because it;s presented through Cocona's biased and unreliable perspective has been a running theme throughout the show, and this latest twist could be functioning through it to the service of casting off the veil of her bias that caused the first 9 episodes to be viewed in a largely positive light. Like she lied to herself and rationalized PI adventures this way, but in reality she was just running from growing up and in retrospect that's as pathetic as a 40 year old retard flirting with teenage girls
>>
>>150847332
I've been an adult for a pretty long while. I definitely prefer my 20s to anything that came before.
>>
>>150847342
That would kill the magic, but it would make it make sense as a plot.
>>
>>150841590
It looks like she has stubbles.
>>
>>150847363
Hmm.. Full scholarship? No debt?
>>
>>150847364
I guess the magic has to die if you want to grow up, right?

Or at least, you have to learn that all magic isn't glowing red beams, henshin and transdimensional exploration.
>>
>>150847342
In other words:

Kids, remember that Flip Flapping is escapism and isn't healthy.
>>
>>150847244
Remember that Papika didn't go back in time, so it would be literally impossible for the memories to be the same. I was under the assumption that this would be the case for this school repetition scenario. At the end of it all, I would have memories of 2 separate school experiences. I think that would be very interesting.
>>
>>150847399
>>150847342
Yes. That's fairly satisfying. Bittersweet.
>>
>>150847429
Ah ok, I was under the impression you wanted to simply go back to back then with no memories. I was mistaken.
>>
>>150847231
It is, but the only line we got addressing the issue was is "I'm not Papikana anymore, I'm Papika." and Papicake is a thing, it's safe to assume there's a level of fuckery we just aren't privy to just yet, and we have plenty of time to resolve it. I'd really prefer it returns to an equal relationship, but fuck it, if we get a happy PapiCoco end I'll be happy. And kissu tho
>>
>>150847342
>we made yet another anime about escapism is bad
Does Japan know there are other things you can write shows about? You certainly don't have to ruin your cute yuri couple to make the point either.
>>
>>150841575
Jesus this shit is just getting old now. Give it a rest faggots.
>>
File: 1477246895782.jpg (66KB, 921x1047px) Image search: [Google]
1477246895782.jpg
66KB, 921x1047px
>>150847385
Yes to the former, kind of (I went to a school that only dealt in grants, not loans), and no to the latter. There's different kinds of entrapment, though. I'd rather have some financial obligations than be unable to have control over the company I keep, the places I visit, or basically any aspect of my life or environment whatsoever the way that children do.
>>
>>150847259
I'd say 65-35. I'm not as masculine as most are here in the Deep South, but I'm not really feminine. I'm not as guy-ish as Cocona, though.
>>
>>150847473
I'd also be happy with YayaCoco, and Papika being a good friend to both of them. Not my preferred ending, but I do want them to be happy... especially if they have to earn it.
>>
>>150847500
My childhood was so much more free than my adulthood. My late teens and early 20s was isolation, misery, and dead-end interminable work. Things are getting better tho. Got a great job last year and I'm buying a house in a month. Anyway, back to the flip flaps.
>>
>>150847476
Escapism isn't even always bad in moderation. But, well, this is Japan we're talking about-- they kind of go balls to the wall with it in normal life.
>>
>>150847643
>buying house
>not putting your down payment into Flip Flap BDs
>>
>>150847705
I actually make enough money to do both.
>>
>>150847722
I hope you have your preorder ready
>>
>>150847500
Brah, enjoy what you got. Sweating the bills and rent like your parents did your whole childhood fucking sucks. You can't control your work environment, there's never enough time to hang with your friends, but at least you got a place to go back to.
>>
Can we stop the blogging?
>>
>>150847568
Only problem I have with that end is that every overt and covert signal sent by this show implied PapiCoco,I love the show, I trust them, but that 180 in three episodes seems far fetched
>>
>>150847835
Yeah, YayaCoco kissu is almost impossible, but we might see them growing a lot closer in the epilogue.
>>
>>150847734
When's the deadline? What proxy service should I use?
>>
File: 1481500550489.jpg (69KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
1481500550489.jpg
69KB, 1280x720px
I want to fuck Cocona, but gently, making sure she feels good the whole time, never progressing further than where she feels comfortable going.
>>
>>150847907
I want everyone to be happy and the most expedient route is PapiCoco kissu. Also if they resolve the age difference PapiCoco is the cutest.
>>
>>150847967
Yayaka plz.
>>
>>150847753
The past 10 years have been fine, but my childhood drove me half insane. My eyes are dead and glazed over most of the time because of everything I experienced during the '90s, and I was trapped because I was a child.
>>
File: 1477529988784.gif (3MB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]
1477529988784.gif
3MB, 500x281px
I'm bummed out if Cocona's falling out with Papika is permanent.

She might feel betrayed, but both YYK and PPK still love her very much.
>>
>>150848230
Yeah, it's permanent. Papika isn't the type to hold grudges, but Cocona is. She doesn't forgive easily at all.
>>
>>150848230
Everyone still loves Cocona, they just all had their own reasons for not telling her the truth. In that respect, Flip Flap's drama is pretty typical.
>>
>>150848230
>I'm bummed out if Cocona's falling out with Papika is permanent.

There's no way they're not reconciling in some way. I have a hard time understanding why people aren't more certain that this is going to have a happy ending. It's not even that I prefer one, but with everything about the show including the OP, ED, and the way it's told its story there's no way the writers aren't intending to repair their relationship by the end of the show.
>>
>>150848073
I don't want to imply undercutting what you went through, I'm sympathizing. I was a poor kid who went to go remove kebab in '08. I still have nightmares. I get where your coming from, past can hit ya hard. But, I dunno, we don't believe we can do better for the next generation what was the point of our suffering?
>>
>>150848302
Nor should she. She has no reason to trust anyone in the world right now.
>>
>>150847476
Well, it is ripping off Evangelion after all.
>>
>>150847342
I think this shines a new light on my impression of the show. It illustrates the importance of maintaining a balance between reality and escapism. They're both necessary. If there was no reality, the escapism wouldn't really be an 'escape'. If there was no escapism, reality would seem irrational(more than it already is) and it'd be difficult to find a point in living. It's all about moderation.

Since the beginning, Cocona has been shown to be reserved, lonely, possibly depressed, but also pragmatic and considerate. Before Papika, it didn't seem like she ever did anything for fun. She was heavily focused on the 'important' things like her grades or which highschool to go.
Cocona represents reality.

Since the beginning, Papika has been shown to be outgoing, friendly, intuitive, and in a way, inconsiderate. Before Cocona, it didn't seem like she ever did anything important. She was heavily focused on 'fun' things like going to PI with Mimi, sleeping in her ball pit, and zooming around on a hoverboard.
Papika represents escapism.

(cont.)
>>
>>150848382
(cont.)
The point is that both girls were living on the extreme ends of a reality/escapism seesaw before they met. Being too far to one side causes an imbalance and 'chaos'(Cocona has no friends and is apparently miserable. Papika has not developed any critical thinking skills and is totally unaware of the outside world.) Once they meet though, everything changes. Cocona was made aware of the wonders of escapism and rejecting harsh reality while Papika was made aware of the responsibilities/struggles of an average person and the importance of conflict and progress. With these new considerations in mind, their umwelts are flipped and we are seeing them learn to maintain the balance of that reality/escapism seesaw. Right now Cocona is on the reality edge, having just learned the painful truth about her surroundings, and it's up to Papika to convince her that life isn't all suffering; that there is fun to be had. I imagine Papika will soon be pushed to the escapism edge and it will be up to Cocona to pull her back to reality so she can move forward and accept the pain of living; something she avoided doing since losing her precious friend years ago in a tragic accident.

tl;dr
Papika = blue pill
Cocona = red pill
>>
>>150848338
Yayaka literally shielded her with her body and stayed behind to secure her escape. Why does Cocona still hate Yayaka again?
>>
>>150839166
>Not self inserting as a tree
>Not wanting to have cute girls climb and play in your branches
>Not protecting them from the sun with your leaves that flutter in the wind
>Not catching them when they fall, and cradling them while they you hold tight, their tiny heartbeat pressed against your trunk as they calm down
>>
>>150848462
Her entire relationship with Yayaka was a lie. That's gonna burn hard.
>>
>>150848469
Birches and whores
>>
>>150848469
Are squirrels like head lice for a tree?
>>
>>150848338
>>150848462

Because she's a grudge holder by nature; she always has been. Yayaka should give up on even being friends with Cocona, ever.
>>
>>150848519
Bullshit. Yayaka will win Cocona back and finally henshin with her.
>>
>>150848519
>Because she's a grudge holder by nature; she always has been.
Cite your sources, anon
>>
>>150848469
You forgot
>not watching them as they get fucked by their bfs right under your nose and you cannot do anything about it
>>
>>150848505
More like stray pets that hang out with you occasionally, I think.
>>
File: 1478191907107.gif (201KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]
1478191907107.gif
201KB, 640x360px
Maybe adult Papika is just a big ruse
>>
>>150847342
>that's as pathetic as a 40 year old retard flirting with teenage girls
Not if the 40 years old is a cute lesbian. You get a lot of pass if you're a cute lesbian.
>>
>>150848542
Source: his ass
>>
>>150848546
Only pure nature loving girls hang out in trees. Sluts stay in houses and cars
>>
>>150848542
>>150848573

I've never known a sensitive, introverted girl that isn't grudgey.
>>
>>150848609
Grudgey girls (grudgey people in general) really seem to long for people to give them a reason to drop the grudge.
>>
>>150848588
Dude, quite a bit of couples have sex in the open under trees. It's romantic as fuck. If you see a tree in a nice place like a meadow, far away from human eyes, you can bet this tree has seen its share of tits and asses.
>>
File: shinji_the_date_rapist.jpg (17KB, 254x190px) Image search: [Google]
shinji_the_date_rapist.jpg
17KB, 254x190px
>>150848671
>far away from human eyes
That's what they like to believe.
>>
I've read a lot of criticisms on this thread, and several threads before. It's great that people are passionate about Flip Flappers, and really care a lot about it. It is a shame, however, such pure emotions are misdirected into a barely concealed blind rage and anguish behind the very texts that attempted to criticize it (and also for those who appreciate the latest episode). In criticism it is better to be disinterested, as you strive for impartial judgements. Despite ultimately born out of subjectivity, an attempt to establish a common sense is needed if you want people to see your own perspective. The point is not to describe the object in itself, but as a sufficient condition for people to know adequately your mental images. This is because a sense without any reason behind it would be very hazy and fluid. You might not mentally form it, let alone other people. Furthermore, criticism also includes critical reflection, so that your own viewpoint can be retroactively criticized too in a fruitful manner in the future (e.g.. when someone replies to you). Otherwise, these critiques might come out as rude, improper, utterly dishonest, lacking effort for clarity, or incomprehensive in outlook. These critiques might even just be seen as petty self-interests in long-winded opinions, truly something with the utmost unwarranted self-importance behind them. I sincerely hope that's not the case, as it is quite saddening to see pure noble emotions perverted into anguish and despair.
>>
>>150848556
It could very easily be. We've already seen 7 different Papika in PI so why couldn't that be a flashback to a PI with Mimi? So many assumptions being made about Papika when we know fuck all really about how she relates to those memories or the context of that preview image.
>>
>>150848707
>as it is quite saddening to see pure noble emotions perverted into anguish and despair.
Is this episode 10?
>>
>>150848728
It's also odd that people jump straight to Papika is now a 40 year old woman in the body of a 14 year old girl rather than a 14 year old girl that happens to have memories of a 40 year old woman that have entered her mind. The fact that she spent so long confused about it indicates to me it's more than likely the latter.
>>
>>150848707
I feel like we've actually gotten over a lot of the misgivings through discussing them. I definitely have less trouble seeing the story for what it is, rather than what I imagined it would be before the reveals.
>>
>>150848819
Even if she IS a 40 year old, a lot of people brought up ways in which that could make sense in the narrative and actually be pretty inspiring. I don't know if it'll kill their relationship or not, but I have a feeling they're at least all going to be happy, willing to finally grow up, and over all, better off.
>>
File: CzZiJvAVEAEuN7n.jpg (73KB, 1024x674px) Image search: [Google]
CzZiJvAVEAEuN7n.jpg
73KB, 1024x674px
they really are ayylmaos. look at that head.
>>
>>150848867
Shit the greys are trying to make us alien-sexual through jap anime
>>
File: 1475111643017.png (274KB, 499x358px) Image search: [Google]
1475111643017.png
274KB, 499x358px
>>150848888
>trying
It worked, Anon.
>>
>>150848302
Cocona isn't in the state where she can hold or not hold grudges right now. If I were you, I would worry about other things, like her life for example. Mimi might not be a good person or the same as she was. She might just be corrupted or something, as a consequence of the past event. That might also made Papika's traumatized from guilt or something. Maybe something like Griffith's transformation when they tried to run away from the lab.

I mean, it would be pretty cool if this scene turns out to be Salt pointing his sekrit powerful gun at Mimi/Cocona, because supposedly Mimi's corruption spreads to PI too and he tries to liberate/purify it. That would make Salt a more decent human bean than Gendo, at least.
>>
>>150848930
What if old salt is just an illusion and he's still the shota he was back then?
>>
>>150848930
Yeah, "liberate" could mean to liberate PI from Mimis possession.
>>
>>150848834
It'll be hilarious if the PV on tuesday fucks everything up again
>>
>>150848495
But the time they spent together was real.

inb4 Yayaka pulls a Rolo-esque suicide save
>>
File: snout.jpg (20KB, 320x713px) Image search: [Google]
snout.jpg
20KB, 320x713px
>>150848867
I want to kiss Yayaka's snout.
>>
>>150848977
And the next episode manages to screw people even more? Please no. One guy almost killed himself after watching last episode. I don't want this show to turn into Eva tier IRL drama shit, though it might bump up the sales, becoming a cult classic or something.
>>
>>150849046
>One guy almost killed himself after watching last episode.
Haha, really?
>>
>>150849046
I was thinking more along the lines of a screenshot/frame that, without context, further complicates our understanding of episode 10 or 11. I'm hoping things get clearer and happier and I have faith that they will.
>>
File: 1477602014905.jpg (252KB, 2110x1402px) Image search: [Google]
1477602014905.jpg
252KB, 2110x1402px
>>150849054
He had his Pure Illusion shattered. Poor guy. Probably a girl though, or a girl (male), because he's so emotionally invested with Cocona's perspective or something like that. Truly flipped people over.
>>
Yayakas forehead.
>>
>>150849046
>almost killed himself
Shit nigga it's fucking anime. I hope he had some serious, non anime related stuff going on as well. And I hope that stuff gets settled positively.
>>
>>150849142
>girl(male)
Trannies are retards and mentally ill.
>>
>>150849175
Nice 5head
>>
>>150849231
there is literally nothing wrong with being transgender
>>
>>150849388
Except when you're forcing people to accept you're a woman when you're actually a man in a dress, and whine when they don't. Try going to the shithole that is /lgbt/.
>>
File: toto.jpg (83KB, 584x702px) Image search: [Google]
toto.jpg
83KB, 584x702px
>>150849447
But that's not the same as "being" a transgender. That's just relationships with other people.
>>
>>150849447
Anon, it's reactionary.

In every social movement, you have a calm and a radical side.

The more radical the radical side is, the faster people will be willing to negotiate with the calm side. It happened with every social movement, and this is no exception.

If you're just going to deny people the most basic decency of actually treating them like people, they might get upset, surprise surprise.
>>
>>150849856
Stop typing like that.
>>
>>150844132
>grandma is a robot was foreshadowed
no it wasnt
>>
Papikana = / = Papika

Learn the difference
>>
File: 1481185179812.jpg (10KB, 294x256px) Image search: [Google]
1481185179812.jpg
10KB, 294x256px
>>150850059
>mfw Papikana took over Papika and that's the twist
>>
Crashing this thread with no survivors.
>>
>>150850098
Oh we'll rise again come Tuesday.
>>
>>150849856
Thank God trannies are only infesting USA. Real transgender people are actually a minority and pretty okay, unlike the retards who think trying to be a woman will make their shitty life easier.
>>
>>150849925
Someone post the webm.
>>
>>150850098
You mean flipping this thread
>>
More seiyuu commentary track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-g0BQAEepE
>>
>>150841530
Cat people are more likely to have toxoplasmosis symbiotes and thus have a higher mental tolerance for complexity and uncertainty.
>>
>>150850362
Thanks anon for giving me this to console my feeling of uncertainty.
This is my favorite thread since ep1. I'll archive it myself.
>>
>>150850838
But they just talked about dicks and 40 year old lesbians
>>
>can't find FF thread in the catalog
>think to myself "finally they realized we ran out of things to discuss two threads ago"
>see this at bump limit

Damn it guys, what's the point anymore if all you do is spam reaction faces and shitpost?
>>
File: 1479468510241.jpg (29KB, 294x557px) Image search: [Google]
1479468510241.jpg
29KB, 294x557px
>>150851638
The reaction images are pretty good.
>>
>>150842179
who's the seal?
>>
>>150851638
There was some decent discussion near the end.
>>
>>150851704
>Papika isn't actually retarded
>she was just PRETENDING to be retarded

I hate this meme.
>>
File: just pictures.jpg (140KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]
just pictures.jpg
140KB, 1280x720px
>>150851837
But she read big books for big girls!
Thread posts: 515
Thread images: 137


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.