Occultic;Nine

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So 1 hour and 30 minutes until most people can watch it.

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>>150768287

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>>150768313
>not watching live

>>150768316

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>>150768354

Alright,I didn't watched this show for a few weeks and I just watched ep.7-9.
What did you guys figure out/theorize in the last weeks?

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posting best boy

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speculation recap:
possible bug to becoming one of the 9
>miyuu's ability might able to change the future (she changed the future of the cancer guy), she used it on herself
>sarai become one of the 9 because miyuu used her ability on sarai or prof hashigami inject him scandium
>aria is due to her brother brain washed her with scandium 3 years ago
>ririka is one of the rich family who bought scandium from the society, she might meet the rich albino kid in some party and become acquaintance
>emperor might have the same family name as ryotas (narusawa) and also injected scadium
>gamotan is the most complex case, he got shot by ryotas using the poya gun multiple time
>he runs around searching for the key hole when the phone came while his dad(mask guy) and kiryuu are following him
>he answered the phone first, then kiryuu place the curse on him(request by ryotas and miyuu) and finally his dad did something to his body
>unlike shota, he did not get brain washed and walk down the lake, he might get thrown down by someone else with no soul
>FBI is unable to read the memory(soul) of gamotan

>>150768450
source?

>>150768454
People think Ryotits knew Gamotan's dad.
There's one guy who thinks that Ryotits' gun is a mini tesla coil and she's using it to keep Gamotan's ghost around or some shit.
I saw one post saying that the reason Blu Moon Cafe's drinks taste so bad is because they're spiked with scandium, which is why everyone who goes there is now a ghost.

There isn't much to properly theorise on, now that the main twist and the villain's plans have been totally revealed.

>>150768557
I'm betting the minor and big bad would be the next.

Chiyo can't possibly introduce another protag at this point. I hope.

>>150768557
Izumin,
Emperor,
Gamotan's dad,
or all of the above.

>>150768562
Fuck man, all of these implications

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The mangaka was a fuckin waste

On air at Tokyo MX

What the fuck

>>150768531
Hopefully we will have a reunion of him and FBI girl.

Someone still watching occultic nine on /a/?

>do you want to know my real name?

>>150768986
Everyone with a good taste and patience does.

>Ryotas is Tesla's daughter

>>150768728
She should die.

>>150768354
Where though? Lazysphere is down, bilibili streams Mahō shōjo battle royale.

>Aveline Narusawa Tesla

>>150769129
http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming88

>>150769144
Thank you, i really need to check the archives from the mayoiga threads.

>>150768557
>yfw Chiyomaru's pic for the last one

>Gamotan you're special
>That's why I'm your familiar

>>150769222
>familiar

Excuse me?

>>150769239
Leave, watch episode one, and come back again.

>Poya gun is Wardenclyffe Gun confirmed
>The occult can't proceed with the plan as the gun is with the daughter

>masked man keepa on making bypassers disappear

>It's happening

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endcard

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>Ep 11 title: We Want The Airwaves

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>>150768980
Hopefully yeah. They're my OTP that actually have some sort of substance to it.

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>show is good
>nobody watches it because it's ''too fast'' or tits

>>150769900
Look at the bright side, no annoying shitposters to ruin the show.

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This episode:
>Masked man going around making everyone disappear
>Ryo-tas is Tesla's daughter: Aveline Narusawa Tesla
>Ryo-tas genuinely cares for Gamotan
>Poya gun is Wardenclyffe gun confirmed
>CODEception
>connection with the Narusawas and Eight Gods of Fortune cult
>Kusakabe having memories of Aria's onii-chan
>ominous Ririka scene after credits
>a body has disappeared in the coffin

>>150770085
>a body has disappeared in the coffin
It's her body. Her name was written in there.

>>150770085
Ririka zombie

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She has a shadow now.

>>150770298
Holy shit, I didn't notice.

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>>150770085
Also
>"Gamotan is special"/has some sort of ability, "that's why Ryotas is Gamotan's familiar"
>If I heard/understood it correctly, the taxi driver was telling Asuna that cafe Blue Moon is a thing of the past(?)

>>150770143
Was it in hiragana then? Her name is the website doesn't match with the nameplate, or am I doing something wrong? or the nameplate is just something else?

>>150770298
Wow, bravo. She's now a couple of steps ahead of everyone else. Truly the best ara ara material

>>150768173
Is OST out yet?

>>150770393
the name is in katakana

>>150770464
Not even listed in the site.

Does anyone know if it has a chance of being released at all?

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>>150770491
>katakana
Oh, that makes sense, thanks. It really is her.

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>[BudLightSubs] Occultic;Nine - 10 [720p]
Daisuki rip is up

>>150769812
holy shit the gay tooth key goes into ryo-tas gun

>>150769812
>>150770870
>"keyhole"
now I get it.

Key and Hole hot inserting action when?

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>>150770636
It's included with the BDs as usual. First OST is already out, second one in May.

So why did Ryotats tell Gamotan to look for the keyhole when she got it all along.

>>150771030
Where's DL then? Fuck. I want it so bad.

>>150771425
Just because it's out in Japan doesn't mean someone has shared a rip. Buy the BDs yourself if you want it that bad.

HOW DID HE MAKE HER DISAPPEAR LIKE THAT

These angles are making me sick.

>>150771686
My best guess is that they're ghosts and he's eradicating them,or something like that.

>>150771686
>>150772085
>NMM (Narusawa Medical Group) cult began eradicating the Phase 1 subjects
>Masked man going around making people (Visible Ghost) disappear/dissipate

One more episode?

>>150770298
What the hell?
What.

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>>150772410
2 more.

episode 12 will air on Christmas

>>150772415
My guess is they implanted her ghost back into her body OR they implanted someone else's soul into her body
kinda like what happened with Ryotas and black magic girl's brother maybe

>>150772482
>OR they implanted someone else's soul into her body
She did reference Frankenstein around the middle of the series.

>>150772480
A Christmas tree and a new dawn. Everything's gonna be all right.

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what the fuck just happened why does the mangaka have a shadow now and why isn't her body in the coffin and did something happen to gamon after ryoka shot him with the gun?

>>150768173
Holy shit, who thought the constant change of camera angles and random tilt was a good idea?

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Truly smartphones are a menace

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Well fuck.
It's Zombie time

>that one feminist bitching about ryota is just a fanservice character
>this episode prove him wrong

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what does it mean?
Is it showing whatever she just did or something she will do?

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>>150772202

The episode director this week went nuts with the framing angles.

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>title says everything can be explained by science
>watch the show expect everything would be explained by science
>the explanation actually made the show worse
>want it to be more like an occult show now instead of science

>>150773330
>science
Yeah about as much science as Steins;gate and Chaos;Head

And now the ED is finally explained.

-The woman sitting behind the giant Tesla Coil is Aveline, as well as the one that keeps appearing in frames with a blue background. That's why she's so flatchested. She's also the one that appears reflected on Gamon's eyes at the end.

-Ryoka in a cage means that her consciousness is sleeping while Aveline inhabits her body. At the end she wakes up and reaches out for freedom, calling to Gamon.

This show is the AOTY, and anyone who dares spout crap about it has got the worst taste ever.

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>>150773219
>Aveline died 73 years ago and is now an Astral Projection/ghost

She's going to dissipate isn't she?

>>150773515
>This show is the AOTY, and anyone who dares spout crap about it has got the worst taste ever.
This. Fucking this.

>>150773303
Yeah. What the hell is that. I have to rotate my monitor a couple of times to watch this episode.

>>150773583
She's Tesla's (grand)daughter, she will probably "live" for a very long time.

>>150773583
Obviously. In the ED Ryoka wakes up and reaches out for freedom, and calls Gamon, who hears her voice.

The marble that represents Ryoka is in between the light and the shade because is two souls in one body.

>>150773219
So wait, the emperor is Tesla's dad?

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>>150773515
Yeah the whole ED now makes sense after this episode.

The OP on the other hand:
>This episode introduced the fact that astral bodies can dissipate after some time
>Zonko is bleeding in the OP
>Aveline has been wandering around for 73 years
>Last episode will air in Christmas, thus christmas tree

>>150773749
Emperor was adapted into the Narusawa clan, his granddaughter is Narusawa Ryoka

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>>150773515
How does this make you feel?

To summarize this episode:
-"Ryoka Narusawa" is actually two person. The ghost of Tesla's daughter and the actual Ryoka Narusawa. We still didn't know why she approached Gamon.

-Narusawa clan had a connection with Tesla.

-Emperor is the head of Narusawa clan.

-Miyuu became more agressive. Holy shit she's so much cuter than in the previous episodes.

-Ryotas' gun is a miniature of Tesla's wireless electronic tower. Its purpose is to charge the energy wave of the ghost so they don't dissipate. The key is needed to bring out the gun's full potential. Ryotas gave the key to Hashigami at some point.

-Kiryuu is probably Ria's brother after all.

-Cafe Blue Moon's owner has retired two years ago.

-Okama didn't show up again.

This episode was so good, and the opening scene caught me off guard.

Pissed that so many people are missing out on this show because of the first episode.

>>150773833
Not that anon but do you seriously depend on the rankings, anon?

>>150773833
It's always the best shows the ones casuals tend to avoid.

>>150773515
>This show is the AOTY, and anyone who dares spout crap about it has got the worst taste ever.
I can imagine how you've announced shit like S;G and C;H AOTY shows too

>>150773877
And the key.

>>150773833
Have you seen their threads? Are they even discussing the episode? If watching unpopular shows means actual comfy episode/series discussions then I'd rather have what we have now.

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You have the right to remain silent, spooky ghosts.

>>150773219
Its sounds like aveline may have been possessing ryoka since around 2012 if thats when professor hasigami was given the boot key
Also what if Nikola Tesla is possessing the emperor??

>>150774254
They say she's her granchild, so emperor is A) Nikola's dad or B) Ryotas' mom's dad

>>150770393
The taxi driver was telling Asuna that Cafe Blue Moon is supposed to be a shut down two years ago. That means Okama isn't the real owner.

I was on the edge of my seat this whole fucking episode. I hope the final episode is a 1 hour special.

Did I hear that just right? Cafe Blue Moon original owner retired two years ago?

But then who is... oh shi-, someone is pulling a knife in the next episode.

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>>150774254
Wait I just realized they were probably talking about Ryotas instead of Aveline, I wonder if they do know about Aveline

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>Am in it for Shun

Man I just enjoy his character immensely. Just his whole way in the series compared to the others is enjoyable to me.

>>150774376
Which explains why his drinks taste so bad.

>>150773877
>Kiryuu is probably Ria's brother after all.
I don't want it to be this way, I believe that her brother is trying to sync through Kiryuu

>>150773877
>Kiryuu is probably Ria's brother after all.
Maybe hes been hanging around like aveline and his astral body is interfering with kiryuu's projection? Maybe trying to possess his comatose body? I wonder what role theyre going to play as the story comes to a close?

So Ryotas = Mayushii + Shogun + a bit of Kurisu?

Mystery shows really do get worse as they start uncovering the mystery.

>>150774621
How is she Shogun?

>>150774678
Nice bait

>>150774693
Continue cultivating your safe space, dude.

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>>150774424
It's hard not to love literal perfection, anon. Even Japan agrees that he's the best, and Miyuu is a niconico camwhoring slut who pleases fat sweaty old men for views.

>>150773877
>>150774432
>>150774482
Does anyone know what the card Shun holds says that has Ria's brother name, Takaharu Minase, on it? It seems that Shun came from a hospital and I saw a speculator on twitter that Kusakabe probably got a transplant from Ria's brother.

>>150774621
She has shades of Kurisi. Which is not really a surprise considering Ryoka is the heroine.

>>150774424
I like him as he actually gets the answers and explains it to the audience enough.

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Clingy as fuck. But still cute.

>>150774723
Start providing arguments then, otherwise you just seem to be fishing for responses.

>>150773877
>-Kiryuu is probably Ria's brother after all.
More like Ria's brother soul is trying to take over Kiryuu's consciousness.

>>150774773
I don't need to explain myself to someone that calls anything that he doesn't like bait. I just expressed my opinion after the episode, I'm not here to argue of write essays.

https://twitter.com/2Dphantasm/status/807638216597569536
FIRST MELT INCOMING.
It's either the Emperor ascending, or the Poya Gun fucking up everything.
We're gonna get either C;H's ending or Evangelion's unless they save the world.

>>150774821
Oh really? Who told you that, your mom?

>>150774869
Are you sure you're not the one shitposting right now?

This is why I don't like unpopular show's threads, everytime someone pointed something's wrong/flawed, they quickly shoot it down with shallow comments like "nice bait" or "you have shit taste".

Let me tell you why this show sucked. The fast-talking nonsense bothers me so much because it makes it hard to absorb information as because it doesn't seem to be useful for establishing any particular mood or provoking any particular emotion in the viewer. The only purpose it seems to serve is maximizing the amount of unmotivated in-world detail the characters can deluge us with as viewers, and even that in-world detail doesn't convey a well-constructed, massive, internally consistent universe so much as a random spray of sci-fi tropes arbitrarily pasted together.

I guess the core core of my complaint isn't really about the rapid character dialogue at all; it's about the show's plot not being written to connect with viewers on any but the most superficial levels. Rapidly moving through convoluted, randomly selected nonsense is almost as bad as slowly moving through it. It's a real shame; the production value's there, but there's just no mastery of mood or writing to back it up.

>>150768313
>titty doujin lady

UNF. Although seeing from what the albino boy said, she might be a 'bad' lady.

>>150774894
>>150774869
Get your shits together guys, you're both shitposting. So stop please.

>>150774424
Literally a more knowledgeable Araragi

>>150774894
>he is actually thinking that he only argues with one person right now

>>150774848
No worries, that's what Gamon exists for.

Unfortunately, Aveline's fate is already written out. A ghost who has been dead for 73 years straight can only end up one way.

>>150774938
Thanks, you mostly said it. They started to explain everything with wonky made up science. It doesn't seem that clever, just disappointing because the build up made me interested in the show.
>>150775002
>p-please stop shitposting!
What are you doing?

>>150774938
That one guy was right. This show isn't meant for casuals.

>>150774757
>tfw Shun was verbally wrecking her

That felt good.

>>150774848
First melt wasn't that bad, the third melt destroyed almost everything. But then we will finally know whose eyes those eyes are.

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>>150775113
She's already a broken imouto, he didn't need to bully her like that.

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>>150774938
Subscribed

>>150774938
nice bait, you have shit taste

>>150775102
Yeah, this show isn't for circlejerkers.

>>150775184
You don't exactly refutes it.

The final episode is going to be such a tearjerker, and heartwarming at the same time.

>>150774938
Read the LN. Good enough response?

>>150775282
*is

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>>150774729
I googled japanese organ donor card and its the same thing

>>150775419
he ticked cardiac death and not brain death so does that mean he was still partially around somewhat?

>>150775282
>>150775330
>one or two people don't want to accept my criticism
>that means the whole viewerbase is a circlejerk
Really makes me think.

>>150775419
Nice find.

This refutes the theory that Takaharu Minase (Ria's brother) == Kiryu Kusakabe. Poor Ria will never meet her onii-sama.

>>150775180
Honestly I feel that she is the character that deserves it the most with her bullshit

>>150774729
>>150775419
>>150775598
The kryuu accident wasn't the same time around Ria and his brother accident? maybe that's why the transplant occurred.

>>150775598
We already knew Kiryuu wasn't Ria's brother. Of course, this episode seems to confirm his soul is trying to take him over.

>>150775419
brb, destroying organ donor card so I don't get possessed by no spooky ghosts

So does anyone know for sure how many episodes are left?
will the story be concluded in one shot? or do I have to hope this does successful enough for a second season?

>>150775816
2 are left. Not sure if a second season or a cour.

>>150775816
Can't you already tell? This story is going to end in 2 more episodes, and there's not going to be a sequel for it because it doesn't exist in first place.

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This fucking ep.
That fucking preview.

Really crazy how the first mention of Aveline was in episode 3, by Shun no less.

The foreshadowing in this show has been top notch from the get go.

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>>150775905
>That fucking preview.
Some ghosts are about to get shanked.

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>>150775816
They can tie everything up nicely next episode really. If anything, they could make spin-offs based on the character. Detective Otaku Adventures of Shun would be nice to have.

>>150775869
I can tell and I cant. as things are coming together, I still feel that have a lot to rap up in 2 episodes unless one was maybe an hour special

This is some X-Files level shit.

>>150775921
Which scene? Jog my memory, please.

>>150776023
>Detective Otaku Adventures of Shun would be nice to have.
I need this to happen.

>>150775716
Ria's kidney transplant and the scandium factory explosion both happened 3 years ago so it could be that MMG influenced the doctors to screw up his procedure to get access to his other organs.

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>there are only two novels

Ah damn I was hoping for something else to go onto.

>>150776102
When Shun was talking to Sarai just before he told him to turn his phone off.

>>150776102
Near the end, when he meets with Sarai. It's no wonder he asked him about that, since he's the son of the professor who had the photo.

I love how this episode resolve some questions, bring up even more questions and even screw up some hypothesises.

>>150776165
Look it at the bright side, no one can spoil you how this story is going to end because is yet unpublished material.

More shows should do the same, finish the script, then make the anime, and release the final volumes after.

Is this show even good?

>>150776257
>Get to see the full mystery with /a/nons raw

Yeah you're right.

Why do the characters act in stupid convenient ways? Why didn't they stop random strangers to check wheter they were ghosts or not?
Also, in episode 9, why did FBI-chan conveniently appear at the place Miyu was being threatened by the pale boy?

>>150776037
Chiyomaru is the one that decides what goes in each episode, so...

>>150776300
In a 'what the fuck is even going on' way. Yeah it is.

>>150776323
Good mystery shows are also extremely rare, treasure this ride while you can.

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>>150776078
>>150776103
Shun is Mulder.

>>150776018
That hand... is Izumi, isn't he?

>>150776341
she was looking for the box

>>150776257
That will never ever happen unless it's a multi-media project from the start.

Or if the writer is some kind of the company's big shot.

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>>150776165
We just have to wait for Chiyomaru to make SVN an actual VN's as what the name says for more content. I'll play the shit out of Shun's route if it ever happens.

>>150776341
>Why didn't they stop random strangers to check wheter they were ghosts or not?
Gamotan kinda did that when he died. If it were 24 episode series then we might see others doing the same too.

>>150776341
>Why didn't they stop random strangers to check wheter they were ghosts or not?
That's exactly what they did.

>>150775102
What guy?

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>>150776374
That explains a lot.

>>150774938
How would you suggest improving it?

>>150776554
Someone who explained with a very good summary why O;C9 is special and why it turns off people that are too used to the same shit.

So basically Avenline is class Kiryuu type astral body? Can we do the reverse and assume that Kiryuu also ride the radiowave in order to stay invisible to other astral bodies as well when needed?

And the Poya gun used is finally made clear. Gamotan is special by himself (though what does that mean we still don't know).
Why did Ryotas shot him when he was alive again? Gag purpose? And then there's Ririka, this basically confirmed Gamotan will probably be resurrected right? Fucking how though goddamn another weak of waiting.

>>150776647
Aveline is an astral body inhabiting Ryoka. Kiryuu is just himself.

>>150776739
It's a joke. What I'm saying that Aveline is similar to Kiryuu.

What will happen when Shun does get the knowledge how to go back in time? Make everything end before it hits the fan?

The key that Gamotan hold goes into the keyhole of Tesla's gun? I mean, where else could it be? I assume that the gun is currently not functional as it's intended.

>>150776107
you might be correct but it does not necessary need the influence of MMG, it could just be purely an accident, kiryuu and ria's brother caught in the explosion, under emergency both of the got into hospital other than MMG's
then kiryuu recieve ria's brother organ

>>150776647
there are still many unknown surrounding kiryuu, the first problem is he has been in astral state for a long time without the gun
this might lead to the reason why he keeps earning money through steal and partner with ria's dark magic business

So we have Aveline, the daughter of Nikola Tesla.
Then we have the Emperor and his granddaughter Ryo-tas.
Are there actual family ties between these or is Aveline just possessing Ryo-tas for some yet to be disclosed reason?

>>150776842
Shun is just trying to find out how he died. And thinks the best way is to look into the past, which is a first, because so far those who have got precognition abilities can only look into the future.

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>>150776626
Do you mean this? I found it by typing "casual" into Desuarchive.

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>>150776842
Please no

>>150776989
Maybe he doesn't need the gun since he still has a physical body? His physical body through some ways recharge his astral form? That's why he can't stay ghost all the time.

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>>150776842
A fictional detective doesn't act, they make anyone else do the work. He probably just want to know everything so he can mess around everyone even more.

>>150776992
Are you really asking that, when Ryoka is the spitting image of Aveline? She's a descendant of hers.

That's why many people, myself included, mistook that woman in the ED for a younger and much flatchested Ryoka. It was Aveline all along.

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>>150776980
Gun is functioning, the key removes the limiter makes the gun output at full power.

>>150777023
Yeah, that.

>>150776842
Shun died.

But his soul has chosen to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will go back to the first episode.

Asuna who loves Shun want to be with him too and want to be in a time when Shun'd love her, but since he already loves BL she'll go back in time before Shun is born, and became his mother.

Sarai is annoying.

I found it's funny that in this episode we have the driver talking to Asuna when just last week everyone was debating over the driver being astral, imagination and what not.
The driver knows about the cafe, its last owner and its new owner, could it be a conspiracy? Ascension.

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>>150777157
kek

>>150777093
yes, it is very likely he keeps earning money to buy alpha scandium from the society

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>>150777157
>became his mother

>>150777154
I'm thinking along the line of the discharge from the gun might just cause tickling and harmless in nature. But yeah, that's also a possibility I consider.

>>150777222
Izumi is the FB. And judging by the preview for next episode, he's out for blood.

>that grating voice from the radio is actually Ryotas'

As expected from the queen of grating voice that is Ayaneru

>>150777252
Too fucking likely. It would explain 2 things
>why not being able to steal is a problem to him
>the state of his body in this episode

>>150777269
I think Izumi is Ryotas bodyguard or something like that

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I fucking want this

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>>150777265
Yeah, as the normal gun dosage only prolongs the astral projection. With the key on, he subject attains immortality.
>>150773219

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Now everything makes sense.

Astral bodies can interact with real objects, this episode confirmed. When Sarai and Touko investigated the room they found documents they haven't seen and touched before.

If the gun is used to prolong the astral projection, does this mean Gamon has been dead since ep 1?

>>150777337
And if the fact he hid behind the curtains when he got that call is any indication, Ryoka is totally not aware of that.

>>150777403
what if gamotan was already dead before episode 1 thats why ryo-tas would always shoot him with the gun

>>150777505
She may have tried to cancel the mind-control or saving him from dying.

>>150777472
I mean, it's the explanation for poltergeist

Sarai was being illogical there, even though he called himself a man of science the guy is clearly biased as fuck when it comes to occult. He really think Myu performed hot-reading on him? The implications of that thought is so crazy that I don't know where to begin.

>>150777505
Could be, or she was just being a dick

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>>150777551

>>150777551
Ghost Corpse in the morgue. Gamotan died twice. Spoooooky

>>150777578
It's very obvious that he's biased as fuck, that's the whole point of his conflict with his father early on.

>>150777578
Also, the amount of knowledge he had convinced me to believe he is a dedicated shitposter on occult board on @channel.
Not like it exists on this universe, does it?

>>150776989
I don't know if she was directly involved with the explosion from the flashback it looked like she just collapsed one day. The kidney failure could be related to the explosion perhaps it occurred when they were driving to the beach.

>>150777632
he is too deep into the spookiness

>>150777551
Why would his body be in the morgue with the other ones then?

>>150777648
I know he's biased but at least tried to not being obvious as fuck in previous episodes. In this one he just made one hell of an illogical claim that literally has no defense.

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>>150777578
He's just being tsun for Miyuu.

Judging by what she said in this episode:

>This is the first time Aveline has actually taken over Ryo-tas consciousness
>Most of the time it was Ryo-tas, and that also includes that time she and Gamotan met for the first time
>Zonko is just another persona of Aveline

So that means Ryo-tas was in full control over her body for most of the show. I wonder if she's actually aware of the fact Aveline is inhabiting her body.

>>150777720
Myu makes him nervous man, give him a break

>>150777632
his corpse could've probably been thrown in to the lake

>>150777720
He's a teenager and his personal beliefs are threatening to come tumbling down, it's natural that he'd lash out a bit at the alleged psych girl he has a crush on.

>>150768173
Can anyone explain what the journalist girl means by "ascension?"

Is that supposed to be a catchphrase, maybe a verbal tic? Some Japanese wordplay thing?

I've been waiting for that to be explained since she was introduced, but there's a chance I'm thinking too hard about it.

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>>150777578
>even though he called himself a man of science
He was presented as a man with daddy issues in the first episode.

>>150777738
>>This is the first time Aveline has actually taken over Ryo-tas consciousness
False, sirous Ryo-tas = Aveline

Chinese divination is legit my Western friends.
>>150777788
I can definitely sympathize with that one, minus the crush. It's extra hard to admit you're wrong in front of someone you constantly talk shit of in real life.

>>150777794
Isn't it the topic/title to the professor's most recent publication?

Imouto is lonely without Kiryuu around I see, or rather, without him around she really feels insecure about herself, doesn't she?

>>150777833
Are you implying Ryo-tas cannot get serious herself?

Pretty sure it was Aveline on the phone.

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I want Ryotas to step on me.

>>150777950
Detective-kun rattled her and it's showing. At least it looks like they're going to talk it out next episode.

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Doesn't this mean she's "alive" again?

>>150778024
I'm pretty sure it was Aveline who said the world was going to end when leaving Gamon behind and going after Myu.

>>150778084
shes zombie ara ara now

>>150778084
She was upgraded from ghost to lich.

Watching this on phone the 2nd time is fun, you can rotate the phone as you please and watch the scene unfold in normal camera angle.

>>150778085
That I can agree.

But is also true Ryoka is actually smarter than she appears to be. Reminder that she cursed Gamotan for a good reason, which I also suspect she did following Aveline's instructions.

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>>150778084
It means that she's very thirsty and now in a hunt for good rapable shotas.

>>150777872
Is it? I can't seem to find the name scrubbing through the episodes or general googling.

>>150777774
Makes kinda sense since FBI-chan couldn't read his memories. Maybe he got shot so much by it that she can't read them anymore and now has some bullshit special power?

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Gamotan is serious now!

>>150777378
that face sculpt is not the best

>>150777387
>chromatic aberration in the anime dimension

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>>150778344
He'll be crying like a faggot again before you know it.

So... Emperor is Tesla himself?

>>150778084
how did she upload her data back to her body?

>>150778567
He looks like he's being stabbed.

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>Those little "myu" sounds whenever Myu-pom doesn't understand the babbling by Sarai and co.
Fucking cute.

Aveline when she's not possessing Ryo-tas or leaving her body must be talking to her at times. This is how I presume Ryo-tas ended up finding Gamotan.

>Most of the time Ryo-tas has been in full control over her body, sharing it with Aveline and listening to her instructions
>When Aveline leaves Ryo-tas body, she can still contact her using a phone (remember the phone call?)
>When Ryo-tas gets serious is difficult to tell if is her or Aveline. An easy way to tell though that is through the tone of her voice.

>>150778567
Have more faith in the NEET god will you?
But seriously though, why do I feel nothing when I see him whining? Normally people are feel irritated at these kind of characters yet I'm just mildly amused.

>>150777378
Already preordered it. This show has such good character designs and I want to give back to it somehow. It's sad to see such an ambitious show be so unpopular bc people are too retarded to follow it.

>>150778563
Very few figures have faces that actually match the style of the show they're from. At least that Ria one has a properly spaced face, instead of having the eyes and nose crammed close together like so many figures do.

>>150778677
To be fair I'd probably be at least as much of a faggot if I witnessed a murder scene, had a mysterious voice telling me what to do through the radio, stared at my own cadaver, had my best friend and emotional support suddenly act like a completely different person and whatever else he's been through recently.

>>150778677
Because he's written realistically. Freaks out when he sees a corpse, goes in denial mode when his name is mentioned among the victims of the 256 Incident, and accepts the truth upon witnessing it, and understandable, loses the will to do anything.

People are too used to the classic shounen style protagonsit that some times they forgot characters can also be written with realism.

>>150778583
It could be something to do with the lightning
Also she there was an earlier episode where she asks whether a soul can be stitched together to form a being like Frankenstein's monster was put together
what if this whole time shes also had someone else in her body like aveline/ryoka expect fused together somehow?

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>>150778220
Ah, yeah. Sumikaze started mentioning it around episode 4 I think. If I remember correctly it was the professor's theory of the mind living even when the body is dead or something along those lines. She also said some bits to Shun when he visited Sumikaze to find out more about Ria, IIRC.

>>150778677
My faith is in the detective.

>>150777738
>>150778659
Their personalities got fused together.
She said she is both Ryotas and Aveline.

>>150778884
Does that mean >>150778812 is a possibilty
>Also she there was an earlier episode where she asks whether a soul can be stitched together to form a being like Frankenstein's monster was put together
>what if this whole time shes also had someone else in her body like aveline/ryoka expect fused together somehow?

>>150774938
>The fast-talking nonsense bothers me so much because it makes it hard to absorb information as because it doesn't seem to be useful for establishing any particular mood or provoking any particular emotion in the viewer.
It's not that hard to swallow if you're a fast reader and already has some knowledge regarding science and the like, the rest I agree.
>The only purpose it seems to serve is maximizing the amount of unmotivated in-world detail the characters can deluge us with as viewers, and even that in-world detail doesn't convey a well-constructed, massive, internally consistent universe so much as a random spray of sci-fi tropes arbitrarily pasted together.
This however is flat out wrong as demonstrated in how people in these threads are always enthusiastically discussing the world building and mystery. The info dump IS working.
Also, as a defense for sacrificing characters' feeling for info, this is a show about events more than about characters thus optimizing for exposition is a legit choice. Dialogues flow is not the only thing that build up people sympathy for characters anyway, it's effective, that's for sure, but not the only thing that make people enjoy these characters.
>it's about the show's plot not being written to connect with viewers on any but the most superficial levels
How do you explain it connect to me then? What's so disconnecting about it? Episode 1 I can understand seen we barely knew about any character so the jump in introduction between different characters and different events might be confusing.
>Rapidly moving through convoluted, randomly selected nonsense is almost as bad as slowly moving through it
>implying nonsense
Just tell us that you don't understand it.

>>150779027
>responding to bait

>>150778884
What I meant to say is that, strange moves like when Ryo-tas bought a curse for Gamotan may be due to her listening to Aveline. Either that or the fact she's the granddaughter of the Emperor means she has got a great deal of knowledge about astral bodies.

Whatever, the true purpose of the curse has yet to be explained, but if there's one thing I'm sure is that through that Ryo-tas prevented Gamotan from being killed off the same way as the other 255.

>>150778841
Same here, he's best boy and my favorite character of this show.

>>150778574
No... at least that'ds not how I interpreted it. What we're told this ep:
>Aveline and Ryoka are separate entities.
>Aveline posseses Ryoka to control her body.
>Tesla is Aveline's dad.
>Emperor is Ryoka's grandad.

But it seems like Aveline and Ryoka are also related somehow. They look nearly exactly the same, and Aveline says that Narusawa is her middle name.

>>150779144
How has Aveline continued to exist all this time?

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I think the emperor might be a similar entity to Aveline although rather than sharing he directly takes over the consciousnesses of other bodies perhaps to preserve himself. Also the way Takasu talks about him suggest that he might not even be human at all.

>>150779144
>But it seems like Aveline and Ryoka are also related somehow. They look nearly exactly the same, and Aveline says that Narusawa is her middle name.

Ryoka is a descendant of Nikola Tesla. Hence why she is the spitting image of Aveline, Nikola Tesla's daughter.

>>150779040
He actually bother explaining his criticism for the show. Bait or not, it doesn't do us any good to call out on him without refuting his point (If you want to ignore him that's fine though). In the eye of outsiders who don't care for the show we're in the wrong here.
You might think that other people's opinions don't matter but I disagree, this show needs viewers and we should do whatever possible, within our comfort zone, to at least not ruin the show popularity any further to promoting it.
Also, not being able to defend a show this excellent is doing it a disservice.

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>>150779376
Heres a pic of aveline's mother

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>>150779304
sasuga speedreader-kun

It was implied this episode that she also have Scandium in her body, thus also being an "Astral Projection". Though she might dissipate soon as Astral bodies weaken over time and it is implied that she was wandering around for 73 years.

>>150779027
>as a defense for sacrificing characters' feeling for info, this is a show about events more than about characters
This. Only a few years ago, the term "character focused" used to be a phrase I didn't see often. People used to care far more about the contents of the story itself than just whether the characters in it were immediately likeable or relatable, and minimalist characters who purely served their plot-related or thematic purpose were praised the most. Now it seems like everyone thinks having characters they can love is a requirement for a show being good.

>>150779433
You have some valid points, sure. But I just feel it's not worth writing out entire paragraphs to refute extremely simple criticism, even if that criticism is written out longer to seem more important.

Jesus fucking Christ I'm all aboard for interesting direction but flipping the camera angles for shits and giggles is just garbage.

>>150772988
Who will play her in the JAV parody?

>>150779777
Not even Hitomi tits are big enough

>>150779672
Detailed criticisms to me means that the other guy is willing to engage in discussion to some level instead of purely name calling and shit flinging. Well, if you can't be bothered then it can't be helped, I am guilty of insulting or name calling posts that seem obviously wrong (to me) too but well, in the case of O;N threads, I want to defend the reputation of these threads.

>>150779992
Hitomi looks fucking disgusting these days anyway

>>150773219
So who the fuck is the Emperor?

>>150777551
Nah, he had his shadow back then.
Still though, if that was true then holy cow.

Why is Touko-san so sex?

>>150780119
Nikola Tesla's father or mother

>>150779027
>this is a show about events more than about characters
I find the characters in the show enjoyable as well, though.
The characters are surprisingly refreshing, and some of their conflicts are pretty interesting.
Two hardcore anti-occult guys realizing they're fucking ghosts and trying to deal with it especially.

>>150780119
Ryotas' grandpa

>>150780119
Thomas Edison

>>150780386
good one

Here's a summary for those who still don't get something.

>Ryoka is the grandchild of the Emperor
>Aveline is the daughter of Nikola Tesla, and Ryoka is a descendant of hers. Aveline has been living as an Astral Projection for 73 years.
>Ryoka shares her body with Aveline, who takes full control over her at times, and others she leaves her body and assumes Astral Projection form as Zonko
>The Wanderclyffe Gun is actually the Poya-gun Ryoka holds. The gun extends the life of Astral Bodies. In other words, it grants them eternal life
>Ryoka and Aveline are conspiring to destroy the plans of the MMG.
>And for those idiots who said she didn't, Ryoka DOES genuinely care for Gamotan, as Aveline tells to him
>All the 256 victims went to hospitals lead by the MMG, and were experimented on with Scandium
>Ria's brother consciousness is inhabiting Kiryuu's body, and is trying now to take him over
>The taxi driver tells Asuna the original owner of the Cafe Blue Moon bar retired 2 years ago. Izumi isn't the actual owner
>Ririka has unexpectedly been brought back to life, and has drawn another prophecy of hers that shows someone or something being struck with lightning
>The masked guy is exorcising the Astral Bodies, and has no qualms in murdering any witnessers

>>150780488
>Izumi isn't the actual owner

hahaha holy shit

>>150780047
I thought she looked passable. I'd still have a go at it

>>150779992
Actually I think they are

>>150780488
Thank you for the clear and concise explanation. Now nobody can whine like a faggot and say they don't get it.

I have to admit I didn't care for this show at first, but it definitely grew on me. Once you hang on long enough for shit to start being revealed, it all becomes worth it.

I don't watch this but I'm interested in the girl called Asuna, what's her ability?

>>150780488
>>Ririka has unexpectedly been brought back to life, and has drawn another prophecy of hers that shows someone or something being struck with lightning
it looked more like she drew herself as an angel and was ascending to heaven

>>150780005
That's the thing, it's not detailed criticism; it's simple criticism with a pretty pink bow on it.
"It's too fast for me." is substantially all that anon said, yet you responded.

>>150780658
Ascension!

>>150779506
>>150780386
I'm kind of disappointed that they made up a daughter for a famously celibate man instead of straight up just having nikola tesla himself posess ryotas.
Only reason I can think that they would that is either because of potential backlash or that nikola tesla is also in the show possessing someone else

>>150778218
She should take the albino, then.

>>150780619
Psychometry

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>>150780619
She can access memories by touching objects or a body.

>>150780740
Much easier to experiment on someone else.

>>150780749
>>150780759
are they going to explain that shit?

>>150780610
This is definitely one of the most satisfying mystery anime I've seen. But yeah it was a bit off putting at first.

>>150780835
What do they have to explain?

>>150780740
>having nikola tesla himself
too awkward if you ask me

>>150780835
There's not enough time to explain all of the characters that have abilities like that, not that it's necessary.

>>150780740
Or maybe is because this is a fictional story?

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>>150780759
>>150780749
Cool, if she doesn't die by the end of the show I'll watch it.
I'm tired of loving dead girls afterall.

>>150780266
And there's nothing wrong with that. Flow is something that create another layer of depth and allow viewers to more easily sympathize with characters but it's not an absolute requirement for viewers to enjoy these characters. I would say that this show has very well-written characters (for anime) so yeah, it's easy to get attracted to them.
>>150780664
That's way too over simplifying what he said. "It's too fast for me" can means many things.
>It's too fast for me thus I can't follow the dialogues.
>It's too fast for me and I don't like fast stuffs.
>It's too fast thus the emotion in the dialogues are lost
That guy specified 2 of these as explanations for the criticism "it's too fast". 1 of them is legit criticism, 1 is bogus.
I don't like fast stuff is what I assumed about him.

>>150780658
This. Although I wasn't sure if it was her or Ria.

F/a/ggots, who can explain all the plot of this anime in resume?

>>150780893
it's necessary, you can't just say "character magic" when they have been explaining with """science""" how the ghosts works

I wonder what kind of pseudo-scientifical explanation they'll come up with to justify a corpse suddenly walking again.


Also, to that anon that insisted that Ryoka didn't interact with Gamon's radio as an astral body: fuck you.

>>150780872
it would have been hilarious
All this time people would have been jerking off to Nikolai tesla
Also putting a man who wanted nothing to do with boobies into a body that is 90% tits is funny in itself

>>150780986
She's looking at the past right?
Time is more of a scientific thing than magic.

>>150780740
Nikola Tesla with big tits

Now we know the true purpose of the Poya-gun, HOW MANY times did Ryoka zap Gamon with that thing ever since they did meet? A lot. At this point Gamon is going to attain eternal life.

Man, all those playful things Ryoka did were actually because she really does care for him. No wonder she's best girl.

>>150780488
So Nikola Tesla banged up some Japanese chick and made Aveline?

>>150780658
>>150780727
Ascension indeed.

>>150780947
Come to think of it, there was this endcard that had her drawn with angelic wings.

>>150781048
yes, and i want to know the science behind that

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>>150780740
>>150781133
>a famous autist only ever had sex after meeting a Japanese woman

Pottery

>>150780488
>Ryoka and Aveline are conspiring to destroy the plans of the MMG
This is probably the case but I don't want to jump the gun just yet. It would be funny if it's actually the reverse, Ryo-tas helping out the family business. I mean, from the preview it looks like they will have some arguments next episode so it's possible.

>>150780986
>>150780835
They'll probably explain Asuna ability to see people's past together with

>Myu-pom's fortune telling
>Ririka's manga predictions
>Kiryuu time traveling
>whatever Shun is about to do

They're all fundamentally time-related.

>>150780976
souls/ghosts exist
big medical company is trying to monetize eternal life through living infinitely as a ghost
said company did a test on 256 random folks
story is of a few of those 256 figuring out the conspiracy

>>150780976
>>150781290
also mind control

>>150781182
She can read the leftover electromagnetic data people leave behind when they die (ie. their memories). As for why she's able to do it who knows, maybe she has a chunk of scandium embedded in her brain or something.

>>150780976
Chiyomary writes rap battles.

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Explain the plot of this edgy faggot

>>150781380
He's not edgy, he's a minor.

>>150781278
Determinism.

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F

Why did zonko/aveline/ryoka need to to tell gamotan to find the keyhole for the key when it was for the poya gun all along?

>>150781380
i really hated this character, he made no sense