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How does /a/ feel about Evangelion?
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>>150767781
/a/ has a love-hate relationship with Anno and Evangelion and both have been discussed to death here.
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I feel that it's the only chinese cartoon that decisively stroke me or made an impact. Also that Tomino is a hack that should be dressed into a gimp suit, drowned in an oil drum filled with human blood, welded shut, and thrown into the Pacific Ocean.
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>>150767980
Tanged
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>>150767781
Needs more gaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>150767781
Somewhere between "it's awful, but I love it" and "it's great, but I still hate it".
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>>150767980
Why so cruel.
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>>150767781
I feel that Rei is better than Asuka.
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>>150768392
>Shinji
>straight
kek
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>>150767781
What the hell is that image even from? Another staff-made hentai clip?
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>>150768392
As a girl yes.
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>>150767781
It makes my dick hard.
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>>150768448
Episode 24 deleted scenes:
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Episode_24_Draft_1_(Translation)
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Episode_24_Draft_2_(Translation)
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>>150767781
Gonna be serious for once, i watched Evangelion for the first time earlier this year. And it was honestly one of the best anime i have seen, i really liked the mystery that surrounded the angels and the evas. I know people here like to shit on Shinji, but i really felt bad for him. He was after all just a kid who wanted to be loved by his father.
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>>150769370Omedetou
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>>150769370
>>150769438
>Omedetou
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>>150767781
I feel likeRei is the best girl
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No relationship from anime has actually hurt my heart as much as Kawoshin. It's so sad.
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It started off OK, but it completely shit itself at the end.
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Was Shinji one of the first openly gay male main characters in anime? Not counting shoujo.
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>>150770246
He's bi. But he was one of the first in mainstream anime.
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It's trash.
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>>150770402
Poor quality posting.
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2deep and /a/ seems to hate the rebuilds.
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>>150769891
>tfw no Kaworu to love me unconditionally
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>>150769877
This is objectively correct.
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>>150771844
>I don't know what bisexual means: the post
He's as horny as a male hero can get, for sure. He'd fuck a giraffe at this point.
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Soft Pink
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>>150771921
>>150769877
Cold, emotionless, distant people are not moe anon
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>>150772187
Kaworu isn't a woman.
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>>150772187
Correct. He showed romantic attraction towards Kaworu though.
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>>150772255
He showed both sexual and romantic attraction to Kaworu.
He only showed sexual to the women.
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>>150772290
So what do you call it when elementary school kids get crushes on each other? Sexual attraction?
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>>150768047
>>150772052
>Mari
Into the trash it goes
Absolutely fucking dreadful
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>>150772544
Hm, I'm not sure anon-kun. Maybe the episode Kaworu shows up in?
Just a guess, though.
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>>150771844
>>150772187
>>150772544
>being this salty that you self-inserted into Shinji only to realize he's a massive faggot.
Should have chose Gendo or Kaji instead.
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>>150772751
That's fine, but Anno intended differently.
You don't need to force your interpretation on others, are you muslim or something?
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>>150767781
Shitty Devilman ripoff.
You know it's true.
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>>150773143
1.) Eva was already extremely popular before the interview came out.
2.) The staff said they didn't make Kawoshin for the intention of it being popular or not
3.) Anno married a Kawoshin shipper
Just get over yourself, I've already debunked all your points and you know it. You're delusional.
Seeing Shinji get hot and bothered over a boy makes you insecure, we get it, so just imagine him as a girl you closet homo. It's not even that hard.
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>muh fuck you Kaworu and Shinji loved each other they're canon
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>>150773249
You're the one who is a closet homo. I bet you would suck Kaworu's dick if he was real while claiming you're straight
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>>150772751
>this denial
Hello, newfag. Enjoy your stay on /a/.
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>>150773397
Stop replying to bait.
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>>150772128
>Liking moe-shit
Wew.
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>>150773341
Cause you're on /a/, mong. Now shut up or get out.
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>>150772751
>Worst argument ever.
As opposed to your non-argument right here.
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>>150773391
I'm not the one so insecure about my sexuality I freak out every time I see a picture of Kaworu.
You're a literal homosexual and you probably fantasize about getting dicked and hate yourself for it. No wonder no women wants you, sensitive faggot.
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WHY DO YOU NIGGERS CARE SO MUCH IF SHINJI IS GAY OR NOT
YOU DISCUSS THIS EVERY FUCKING THREAD HOLY SHIT
YOU'RE ALL FUCKING GAY, YOU'RE ALL COCK-IN-ASS, CUM IN TUMMY FUCKING HOMOSEXUAL
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>>150773567
Because lesbians take baths with guys and blush at their dicks?
I never knew.
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>>150773550
/a/ has too many closeted people. Fuck them. If you're underage you are not allowed to here.
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>>150773550
gay website
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>>150773143
But then why did he marry Moyoko Anno?
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>>150773751
So what's the /a/ consensus on traps, is it gay or not?Asking for a friend.
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>>150773863
I'm not the one ignoring the show and the staff's own words.
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>>150773751
God that made me hard.
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>>150773910
If it's cute, it's not gay.
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>>150773910
What is the objective difference between a trap and a flat-chested futa?
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>>150774106
But you are, actually.
Eva was 2deep4u.
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>>150774097
A futa has also has a vagina and they tend to be more female like in their personality.
A trap is a cross-dressing boy, which, to my personal taste is 1000% better.
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>>150774314
And everyone is saying you're wrong.
>>150774315
Why do boys make the best girls?
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>>150774182
>>150774314
I wonder if Shinji was bisexual, he did seem to be aroused by women an Kaworu after all.
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>>150774436
The creators confirmed he's bisexual, it's just a canon fact.
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>>150774492
I'm neither a fujo or a fudan.
But you are most definitely a closet homo.
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>refuses to hold Misato's hand in episode 23
>gladly holds Kaworu's hand in episode 24
What did Shinji mean by this?
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>>150774386
>Why do boys make the best girls?
Don't know. But there is a trans chick(male) that I like.
>>150774492
A faggot is the worst kind of gay and their opinions are shit. Gay men are the real deal.
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>>150774612
Instead of fucking Misato, he'd rather fuck the angel that killed her father during Second Impact.
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>>150774874
No shit there wasn't carnal desire there (they're talking about the bath scene), why would you think about fucking someone when they're telling you the words you wanted to here your entire life?
But what was carnal desire, was all the times Shinji blushed before Kaworu told him he liked him, or even before he began being nice to him.
Like in the first scene for instance, there was no reason for Shinji to blush other than the fact that he was sexually attracted.
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>>150775086
Keep telling yourself that you are not gay, anon.
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>>150774874
Anno saying "really didn't" says that there carnal desire just isn't the forefront. Which is the whole point.
His relationship with Kaworu is supposed to contrast his relationship with the girls that are centered and completely based on carnal desire.
It's supposed to show a healthy bond with Kaworu versus his unhealthy bond with the girls.
In the same interview he still calls their relationship homoerotic, though.
>>150775086
You really don't understand anything about Eva. These characters aren't supposed to be black and white or cliches like you so desperately want them to be. They're supposed to resemble real people like you and me.
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>>150769093
Holy shit is this actually the draft of the episode?
>A young boy wearing a cute, navy sailor suit remains on the platform. (Nagisa Kaworu)
>Kaworu stands in the heat haze.
>He sparkles against the light of the setting sun, his hair the color of honey.
>Shinji is unconsciously bewitched by his divine beauty.
>Shinji meets Kaworu's gaze. His heart pounds.
This is some pretty fucking gay shit.
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>>150769917
like your existence
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>>150775208
Keep reading. It gets gayer.
Shinji goes full on yandere homo for Kaworu.
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>>150772128
>implying Asuka is moe
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>>150775315
>Interviewer: You said previously that that sort of JUNE-like, or should I say the sort of production that goes beyond friendship, came out that way naturally, didn’t you?
>Anno: As far as I know, it’s possible that I put in a few guys like that. Otherwise, I wonder whether it might be that I have parts of me like that, myself, things that are at about that degree.
>Interviewer: That level is quite a thing. *laugh*
>Anno: As expected, I was called odd by the staff. *laugh*
>You said previously that that sort of JUNE-like, or should I say the sort of production that goes beyond friendship
>production that goes beyond friendship
Sorry, what were you saying?
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>>150774874
>Interviewer: Usually, Anno-san, you and one other person are credited with the screenplay, but what sort of a relationship do you two have?
>Anno: I had him do the plot after we spoke together, and I fixed up what took the form of the script once more to get it ready for animation.
>Well, at that point in time, we were writing the script to send out, and so you could also say that the stories, drama, characters, and so forth that we’d thought of during previous meetings were starting to lose consistency at the time that that script finished.
>We have to fix those so that they line up, so. I’m unifying it, so it’s becoming uniform, though. I help with the drama parts and so forth.
>Interviewer: Who worked on episode 24?
>Anno: A person named Satsukawa (Akio)-san did that. Satsukawa-san is better at—this is bad to say, but—he’s right on the mark when it comes to homoeroticism. *laugh*
>he’s right on the mark when it comes to homoeroticism. *laugh*
>homoeroticism
It can't be a fujo tease if they go all the way and confirm it.
Anno specifically went out of his way to get a screenwriter who can do homoeroticism.
Keep in mind homoEROTICism, that means it isn't platonic senpai.
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>>150775315
>I suck my friend off but it's totally not homosexual.
This is you.
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>>150775498
Nah, that's you
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>>150775458
>M: No, no. I didn’t think much at all and just drew it according to Anno’s script.
>B: Is Anno-san into that stuff? He even accepted the interview with JUNE (oldest Yaoi magazine in Japan).
>M: That interview in which he pushes all responsibility to Satsukawa is interesting. But when we came up with the original idea, did it start out as such?
>H: eh?
>M: Not that level of homo, did Satsukawa up it?
>H: His descriptions are def top-notch.
>M: In JUNE it shows that the scripts originally had skinny dipping, musical duets and stuff (laughs)
>A: Skinny dipping?!
>M: Yeah, completely naked. I didn’t want to draw that, like to a “If thats how it is I’ll quit” extent.
>A: Isn’t that basically porn?
>M: So when I stated we must change it, it became Anno’s expert bathing.
>A: His favourite public baths.
>H: Why hand-holding though?
>M: Because thats what the script said.
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>>150775526
>>B: Is Anno-san into that stuff? He even accepted the interview with JUNE (oldest Yaoi magazine in Japan).
>>M: Not that level of homo, did Satsukawa up it?
>>A: Skinny dipping?!
>M: Yeah, completely naked. I didn’t want to draw that, like to a “If thats how it is I’ll quit” extent.
>A: Isn’t that basically porn?
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>>150775526
I have been fucked many times and I hove done the same to other men.
I am as gay as a gay man can be.
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>>150775641
>A: I thought its the kind of June-ness that Masayuki-san likes.
>M: Oh no no, it was on part Tsurumaki’s doing, this romantic poetry-like stuff its not within my capabilities.
>B: Is it very romantic?
>M: Actually June refers more to the physical kind of homoeroticism.
>B: Ah, I see.
>H: Speaking of this, Masayuki is arguably one of the go to people when it comes to homo anime.
>M: How we come back to this again?
>A: Why, what?
>M: Because ep 24 was my responsibility everyone thinks Kaworu was created by me.
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>>150768047
SOFT PINK IS LOVE
SOFT PINK IS LIFE
SOFT PINK IS PURE
>>150772052
Good stuff anon!
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>>150775268
It reads like really good smutty fanfiction, wow. I'm not surprised they toned it down though, seeing how so many people will deny and get angry about whatever gayness there is, it definitely makes commercial sense to keep it low key.
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Even if Shinji loves Kaworu and Kaworu is obligated to love Shinji back, they'll never be together, Asuka will always be the winning girl.
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>>150775641
I: But it caused female audiences in front of their televisions to shriek with joy.
M: We never thought it will turn out like that.
T: Was it not planned?
M: We really only realised it afterwards and never thought of much at that time, after all we were going berserk.
The staff specifically say it wasn't their intention or it wasn't their plan to pander to fujos. They just did it because they wanted to.
>>150775751
Anno and Masayuki wanted to go through with it, but some staff members were threatening to quit if they did.
Because it was basically porn at that point, Kaworu and Shinji, two underage boys, holding each other naked in the ocean.
Even episode 24 the way it released was too gay and risky, Anno had it sent to the studio to air 10 minutes before it would go on air so the television studio wouldn't have enough time to censor it.
Anno really wanted to preserve his gay fanfiction.
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>>150775779
Does getting choked qualify as winning?
Because Kaworu was having it done to him before it was cool.
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>>150775883
Wouldn't say it was porn (nothing showing, and the ocean thing would obscure any nudity), but telling a gay love story outright is definitely a bit much for TV, especially Japanese TV in the mid 90s.
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>>150775948
No, as much as I love Kaworu he is a fucking angel abomination and he doesn't belong with Shinji.
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>>150776065
Anno likes to write characters who can't be with the ones they love.
Noriko loved Smith, he died
Misato loved Kaji, he died
Gendo loved Yui, she died
It goes on.
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>>150776022
EoE was a movie and one that had a ton of fan backing at that. The difference there is that everyone had to pay for entrance to a movie, while showing it on air would be easy for little kids or kids whose parents didn't want them watching to see.
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>>150776022
It's more controversial when two boys are doing it.
>>150776057
Yeah, even what they settled on was extremely risky which is why Anno deliberately sent it to the studio late.
No other primetime mainstream Anime would attempt to do a gay story like that, but Anno pushed for it because he's a fucking faggot.
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>>150775779
asuka has won already, she has mari. now if only shinji and kaworu could finally have a happy ending. and poor rei, she gets nothing
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>>150776065
I just want to see Shinji happy, is that too much to ask?
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>>150776209
Rei has her clones.
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>>150767781
So this is a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWPB_FevFU
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>>150776236
They did. And it was the only sex scene that occurred in real life, not in Instrumentality dreamscape.
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>>150775726
>yuri.
Disgusting.
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>>150776209
Rei is an grosser monster than Kaworu, so she deserves fucking nothing. Asuka won in the manga.
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>>150776232
same anon. its been 20 yrs already, shinji deserves happiness
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>>150776065
>angel abomination
They are the ones who should have been in this world to begin with.
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>>150776320
Stay mad.
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>>150776404
The face he makes whenever he sees Kaworu is so pure. He doesn't act this way with anyone else, he's the only person he can let his guard down with.
It's so sweet.
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>>150776349
>Sadamoto: In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
>All About Kaworu Nagisa, 2008
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>>150776455
Mari is honestly worst girl, at least post Asuka x Rei or something.
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>>150776209
>crackshipping
Stop.
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>>150776455
Get out of my gay (male) thread, degenerate.
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>>150776520
Kaworu in the manga is almost a rapist, that ain't exactly good.
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>>150776349
thats not nice, rei is human, not a monster, she should be happy too in some way
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>>150776569
Nah, Shinji is just tsun
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>>150776569
But it's good rape.
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>>150767781
I wish 20 years later, Anno would mature as an author.
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If Kaworu or Shinji was a girl it would be the same for me.
Their relationship transcends gender.
I just like seeing Shinji happy and loved after all the shit he's been through. He deserves it.
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>>150776681
He wants to become a woman so he can please Kaworu.
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Just started the Shinji Ikari Raising Project, am I wasting my time or am I good to keep going? On Chapter 10 now.
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>>150776737
All Eva spinoffs are shit.
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>>150776806
Well, how else do you explain this scene?
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>>150776187
>No other primetime mainstream Anime would attempt to do a gay story like that
Utena
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>>150776737
its terrible, shallow, ooc, slice-of-life garbage. i gave up on it after vol 3
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>>150776846
That's because Ikuhara directed it.
And we all know Ikuhara and Anno are the biggest faggots in the industry.
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>>150776846
Lesbians are not controversial, everybody likes yuri to some extent.
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>>150776903
Yes, we do and they are, but stop moving goalposts.
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>>150776903
i wonder if anno is still full homo for ikunii
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>>150776949
But there was.
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>>150776940
I don't.
Unless two traps count as yuri.
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>>150776941
In Utena they didn't even go full homo until the movie, iirc.
It was all subtext between Anthy and Utena.
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Obligatory.
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>>150776314
What the fuck even is this
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>>150776953
Anno invited Iku-chan to a dinner for Shin Godzilla recently, so probably.
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>>150777019
Well, you've shit taste.
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>>150777129
You've already been debunked m8, by Anno +others themselves:
>>150775699
>>150775594
>>150775529
>>150775460
>>150775363
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>>150777140
Says the man who enjoys lesbians.
I just want to fuck some men, anon.
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>>150776681
It's like you honestly can't even comprehend the concept of bisexuality.
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>>150777129
So one scene where Shinji isn't "REALLY" feeling carnal desire vs. calling their entire relationship JUNE-like homoerotic and physical homo?
You're getting desperate here.
Are you just mad because Shinji will never smile and blush at the female characters like this?
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>>150767781
Gateway anime of the worst kind.
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>>150777273
It's funny because Anno said he's probably bisexual in this interview here: >>150775363
And we all know Shinji is based on himself.
>>150777298
>not knowing the definition of eroticism
You sure are one retarded closet homo.
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>>150777289
Rather the question we all need to be asking here is: grain or no grain?
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>>150777357
Nothing wrong with a little bit of grain
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>>150777298
>muh homoeroticism
This doesn't debunk an argument. If the creator says they have a physically homoerotic relationship and you just cry "muh homoeroticism" that just sounds like you conceding them being gay.
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>>150777354
We get it, you're a flaming faggot. You can stop baiting now, you've been obliterated.
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>>150777424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbTHFJf6FE
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>>150777357
Shades + grains is the best aesthetics for anime.
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Should Kaworu have been a girl?
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>>150777624
He could be bi.
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>>150777045
Good read.
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>>150777777
I may disagree, but nice fucking digits.
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>>150777777
Fujo rekt
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>>150777708
He is bi.
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>>150777624
Shinji is a fucking faggot, sorry anon, there will be no gay ending, but you can't deny that he desperately wants to suck dick.
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>>150777827
>there will be no gay ending
We will see about that.
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>>150777827
Stop
responding
to
bait
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>>150777777
Why do shitposter gets good digits?
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Eva final scene
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>>150777849
There was a gay ending in ANIMA, I think Anno will do one in Rebuild too.
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>>150777777
>Hangs around in the bath with another boy
>Blushes at him
>Gets all touchy-feely with him
>Stays around his house and sleeps in the same room as him
I dunno anon, I'm not saying Shinji is 100% all out 'goes to orlando nightclubs' faggotry but he's almost definitely bi-sexual.
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Wasn't there there that one porn of Eva that was done by offical animators. But I think it was really shit and had light saber penises.
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>>150777849
Considering YoI sucess, do you think Anno will try to go full homo?
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>>150777777
digits confirmed
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>>150777863
I am no incestfag but I hope Komi-something burns in hell.
As per you question:
>Why do shitposter gets good digits?
Happens all the time.
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>>150778001
Yuri on Ice has Eva staff working on it. It got greenlighted from Anno's animation expo.
Yuri on Ice wouldn't be gay as it is if it wasn't for Eva. Even the main character fags look like Kaworu and Shinji.
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>>150778001
Maybe that's why 3.0+1.0 is taking so long, he's arguing with the producers and staff about how gay he wants it to go.
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>>150778066
Wait, what? Names please.
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>>150778001
It's the final "Rebuid" movie, he can do whatever he wants.
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>>150777959
The dude is baiting for replies, stop giving him attention
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>>150778099
Or maybe he's doing sexual favors to beg Ikuhara to work on it with him
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>>150777777
Sextuples confirm Shinji is heterosexual.
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>>150778180
Yeah, so? That doesn't take away the fact he's a bit of a fag.
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>>150778108
Sayo Yamamoto, the director for Yuri on Ice, has been working on the Evangelion rebuild movies and I believe the latter half of the Anime series too.
Yuri on Ice concept appeared in the short Endless Night that was in Anno's Animator Expo last year.
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>>150778180
It's the only relationship taken seriously in the series.
Every sexual situation Shinji got into with the girls was treated as a one-off joke, whereas his love for Kaworu is taken seriously and as the major pinpoint in Shinji's character.
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>>150778277
Okay, I'm not denying that he's attractedto Kaworu, but his relationship with Asuka (whatever kind of fucked up relationship it was) was treated as more than a one-off joke.
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>>150778237
This explains why Yuuri and Victor act so much like Shinji and Kaworu.
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>>150778237
Didn't know that. Thanks.
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>>150778354
Only in EoE.
In the Anime it never got any resolution.
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>>150776672
Maybe when otaku stop being obsessive people who reject the world for their 2D waifu he will. Until then he will keep beating us over the head with the same message.
Its like a public service announcement crafted for anime fans. He tells them to get a life while getting rich on their obsession and they never learn
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>>150778363
Maybe because most homos in Anime are based on Shinji and Kaworu.
It's always a white haired fag and a black haired fag.
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>>150778398
Yeah, but EoE is part of the series, you can't discount that when talking about the show.
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>>150778536
Well, according to Anno it's the bad end to the series. Episode 26 being the good end.
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>>150778536
Anno said EoE isn't canon. It's the bad end:
>Hayashibara: So there will be two episode 25s.
>Anno: Right, it will be a multi-ending.
>Hayashibara: So, a dual... ah, a multi-ending. After episode 24 the endings will diverge.
>Anno: Right.
>Hayashibara: There will be two of them.
>Anno: There will be two of them.
>Hayashibara: Ah, two endings.
>Anno: Yes.
>Hayashibara: In terms of gaming - is it called a simulation game? What do you call it? The ending for that [particular] self changes as you go on [through the game].
>Anno: Right, a multi-ending [game].
>Hayashibara: You took this road so you went here. You took this road so you went here. The ending changes. That's how it goes.
>Anno: Um. Evangelion is my live performance. Since I create it with this sense of it being live, what I'm thinking now, what I'm feeling now, my current mood, all this gets transferred onto film - that was the initial theme, or the theme I had in my mind.
>Hayashibara: Right.
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>>150778452
>filename
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This is me reminding everyone in this thread that Kaworu was a tool used by SEELE to manipulate Shinij into a total emotinal breakdown. Kawory was created to prey on Shinji in his broken emotional state and then die.
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>>150778277
Are you fucking retarded? The original episodes 25 and 26 go into a deep psychoanalysis of Shinji, the girls, and his relationships with them. Shinji and Asuka had a relationship filled with animosity mixed with confused affection because they saw themselves in each other.
EoE goes further into his relationship with Asuka, as well as showing that Rei had feelings for him too.
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>>150778597
>>150778561
Doesn't change his sexuality though, that would have been determined before. It's not like he was totally gay and then decided to jack off to a comatose woman.
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>>150778798
Episode 25 and 26 go into a deep psychoanalysis of Shinji and the girls, but not his relationships with them.
That's only in EoE.
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>>150778561
>>150778597
If the original ending is canon, what the fuck happens in the real world while we're seeing all of the psychoanalysis?
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>>150778839
Yeah, like I said.
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>>150778879
I don't know, ask Anno.
Don't get mad at me for just posting his quotes.
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>>150778757
>"T-that interview is not real, b-baka"
>"L-literally who is Anno? Just some s-sick pedo"
(You)
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>ITT: Anons get mad at Anno disproving their headcanons of the series
Wew lad.
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>>150778975
You're right, it's tough to believe anyone still thinks Shinji's straight after all he's said.
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>>150778911
I'm not mad. I love all anonymous posters equally.
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Evangelion is Anno's magnum opus. However, it is far from being the Holy Trinity of Gainax.
Wings of Honneamise, Gunbuster, and FLCL is defininitively Gainax.
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>>150778999
I honestly can't blame them.
Eva is the biggest bait n switch I've seen in Anime so far.
23 episodes go on and it seems like an otaku anime with three girls fawning over self-insert MC Shinji, and then suddenly Shinji rejects all of them to goes homo to fuck the villain.
I'd be pissed too, especially if I was routing for my waifu to win.
To see her lose to some random faggot in just 10 minutes must hurt.
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>>150779070
>His sole argument is disproven time and again
>He still links to that reply.
Insanity.
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>>150779062
>Wings of Honneamise
I don't understand how this didn't find more success in Japan. Its stunning, such a wonderful fictional telling of the journey to the stars. That and the art was amazing
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>>150779124
He's a closet homo, let him wallow in his own desperation
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>>150774874
>I'm just going to say he's not gay. He really, really likes women. That's all I can say about that.
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>>150778374
So if I went out and got fucked by a man, and then fucked two girls does that mean I'm not a homo?
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>>150779381
Well nor did Aaron Rodgers 2bh
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>>150779062
FLCL is shit and Gunbuster was mediocre.
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>>150779448
I bet this anon sucked a dude's dick once and is trying to convince himself he's not homo by only thinking of girls.
That's why Shinji's faggotry pisses him off so much.
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>>150779470
So, what does that make of Evangelion?
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>>150779539
>Pic related
>>150779597
Kino.
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>>150779597
Devilman-wannabe
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>>150778001
Straight male here. Should I watch Yuri on Ice?
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>>150779470
Let me guess, you like Gurren Lagann and PSG over FLCL and Gunbuster?
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>>150779699
If Shinji isn't bi then why did he get in the bath with another boy and say he loved him?
That's pretty fuckin gay if you ask me.
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>>150779779
How many times do I have to tell you to stop responding to bait?
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>>150779954
Blushing at someone isn't normal however, and Anno has said time and time again Kaworu and Shinji are more than friends and their relationship is homoerotic.
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>>150779686
Gurren Lagann was shit too.
Was Panty and Stocking was bretty gud.
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>>150779682
Why don't you ask your mom? Is it really so much of a strain on you to watch one, let me type it again, ONE episode of a given show and decide for yourself?
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>>150779954
>you can love a friend
Utter bender.
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>>150780031
I'm scared if I watch it I'll turn gay like Shinji
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>>150780015
>toilet jokes
>good
Are you 10 years old?
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>>150780138
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>>150780208
Get a load of this pretentious faggot, can't even enjoy a good fart joke.
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>>150780208
Get a sense of humor, faggot.
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>>150780381
He was referring to one specific scene, and even then he said he wasn't really feeling sexual. So it's not even 100%.
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>>150780278
>>150780315
I'd rather have a sense of integrity, thanks.
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>>150780431
>/a/
>integrity
Fucking pick one
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>>150780431
You're watching Chinese cartoons, you've lost any sense of integrity a long time ago.
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>>150780487
Shinji started blushing at Kaworu the minute he first saw him. That's sexual attraction.
Anno already said their relationship is homoerotic and goes beyond friends, therefore Shinji is bi. You can't get around that autist.
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If wanting to fuck Shinji in the ass is wrong, then I don't want to be right!
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There is nothing in my life I like more than Evangelion.
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>>150780773
He's sexually attracted to him from beginning to end.
What Anno is saying here is in the bath scene, his reasoning for his blushing is predominantly because he's being praised and told he's loved, not predominately because of carnal desires; although that certainly takes a backseat.
This is where Shinji's relationship with Kaworu differs from his relationships with the girls.
In EoE, the girls yell at Shinji for only seeing them as pieces of meat, for using them as "side dishes" and not giving them respect.
He only gives them attention in sexual situations.
Whereas it's the opposite with Kaworu. That's why Kaworu is the one he says he loves, not any of the girls.
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>>150780487
In EoE the storyboard indicates he felt sexual pleasure/ecstasy when Kaworu appeared before him and Adam pierced him with the lance. He was referring to the scene. There are other statements that refer to Kaworu as Shinji's love interest, an official book released some years ago referred to Kaworu as Shinji's "lover" when describing said scene above.
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>>150781008
I think this is the one you're talking about anon.
It's from the End of Evangelion filmbook, I believe:
>Who can foresee the future and guess that they can meet again at this moment?
>The moment Human Instrumentality Project began, Kaworu’s form appeared in front of him again.
>But, is this still the same “him"——
>“You have been there all along?”
>The question melted in the air. He whispers to >Kaworu, as if facing the lover that he is about to lose.
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>>150781128
Yes anon, thanks.
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>>150781058
>Kaworu
>Male role model.
Is this doublethink in action?
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Doesn't he seems himself as a grill?
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>>150781258
Yes, that's usually how bisexuality works, austismo.
>>150781297
He imagined himself with boobs, so who knows.
He certainly acts like a girl in most cases.
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>>150781258
We all know he wants to fuck girls, that doesn't change the fact he also wants to fuck Kaworu.
How retarded to you have to be to not get this? He's bisexual.
100% straight people and 100% gay people don't even exist, everyone is a little bi.
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>>150781258
It's his yearning for a mother figure, Freudian imagery. Remember that they focused on Yui's breasts in other scenes with baby Shinji.
This isn't new.
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>>150781394
We see a huge montage of a bunch of naked bodies, but we can't even really tell what we're looking at.
If you're talking about the Instrumentality sequence, he shows up there and Shinji immediately smiles when he sees him. Pic related.
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holy fuck, it's obvious that shinji is either uncertain of his sexuality or bisexual
arguing whether he's homo or hetero is unwinnable because there is factual evidence supporting both
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>>150781631
Shinji is supposed to be a realistic and complex character, so doesn't it make sense his sexuality isn't so black and white?
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>>150781660
It can't be platonic when Anno says their relationship is homoerotic and more than friends.
He has blushed over him and opened his AT field over him (a sexual act), so it can't be platonic.
Repeating Anno's own words isn't delusion, and no one here is a fujo.
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>>150781392
>100% straight people and 100% gay people don't even exist
This is just what faggots tell themselves.
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>>150781631
>>150781727
Exactly. Anyone arguing otherwise is retarded. This isn't some fujo shit, Anno did this for a reason. Eva partly revolves around the theme of sexuality.
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its maximum edge. creative however.
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>>150781811
No, this is just what philosophers and scientists tell themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale
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>>150781834
Anno incorporated a lot of Freudian concepts into the show, and Freud was a big advocater of sexuality scales. It's only fitting.
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>interpreting the show by the words of Anno, the guy eternally buttblasted about people not taking his work the way he intended it
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>>150781811
Nope. It's been speculated on in academia for quite some time.
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I think it's poetic how a character that appears for less than 10 minutes (not counting the death grip scene) is probably the most frequently discussed and subject to debate than nearly any other anime character.
Kaworu is truly a wonder.
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>>150781871
He said it was homoerotic, therefore sexual.
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>>150781871
You have been disproven time and again.
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>>150781913
Freud himself even believed that theory about people not being born fully straight or gay ("innate bisexuality"), and Anno based Eva off his ideas. Of course the MC of the show is like this.
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>>150781920
Sasuga Anno.
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>>150781920
This is why I don't believe people who try to dismiss him by saying he's shallow.
He's caused endless discourse for 20 years, just like the other main characters.
He's a great character in that respect, I think people are just angry at his presence because he makes them uncomfortable.
But then again, Eva is all about making the audience uncomfortable, so they should be getting used to it by now.
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>>150781916
Anno doesn't likes Otaku degenerates but he likes other kind of degenerates.
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>>150781920
Went on to become an anime icon and used as a template for other characters as well. That kind of writing is what makes ep24 so fantastic.
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>>150782042
Anno likes fujoshi, that's why he married one.
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>>150767781
Gay
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>>150782042
Anno likes anime and is a self-confessed otaku, he just doesn't like to see people let their lives be consumed by otaku culture.
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>>150782042
>Anno doesn't likes Otaku degenerates
There's a reason why he hasn't made a new original anime series since 1995. Anno has literally been saving the anime industry sicne studio khara.
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>>150782097
>tfw you know your wife ships you with Ikuhara
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>>150769008
WHAT HAPPENED TO CASSINO?
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First 'adult' oriented anime I saw, when it was on tv, watched it every week. It has a soft spot in my heart for introducing me to the medium but on subsequent rewatches I find it lacking and flawed. I don't view it through rose colored glasses like many others here, but I must admit it's still far better than a lot of other crap.
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>>150781870
>>150781919
Please go back to tumblr. The Kinsey scale is not even credited research. It's also based on asking people what they think, and not on anything you can actually test. Someone saying "oh yeah, I slept around with a couple different people of varying genders" doesn't actually prove anything. There's a reason that wiki page is very short.
When you say nonsense like "100% straight people don't even exist", you're basically assuming you know people better than they know themselves.
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>>150782154
He wants Otaku people to be more than degenerates but they misinterpret what he wants to say because he is vague. I mean, he should say "FUCK YOU! I PISS ON YOU! I PISS ON YOUR ANCESTORS! I PISS ON YOUR WAY OF LIFE!" directly if he wants people to listen to him.
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>>150773751
Holy shit that pic why boner
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>>150782097
What if he makes a fujobait anime? Will /a/ watch it?
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>>150782623
>Yuuri on ice
>haikyuu
No shit /a/ would watch fujobait
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>>150780138
Too late faggot.
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>>150782326
I wasn't stating it's been proven or anything, I'm just saying it's these kinds of studies and theories that Eva was crafted on.
A lot of Freud's work has been disproven, and a lot of Eva still runs on it.
Nice use of buzzwords, though.
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>>150782623
I want him to make a homo Anime with Ikuhara.
It would be Fabulous Max.
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Shinji is straight. Get over it.
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>>150767781
Never watched it, and considering your picture I never will.
>>>/y/
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>>150782210
She's working at Khara now.
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>>150783555
Hello, newshit. Tell us about your first visit to /a/.
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>>150783555
Those aren't womyn, though.
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>>150783667
Faggots should stay in their containment boards, such as /y/, /lgbt/ and /b/.
This is obviously /y/ content and does not belong here.
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>>150784030
You forgot /u/
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