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>>150712676
/u/ BTFO
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RIP
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>>150712757
AOTY
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What emotion does this face convey?
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>>150712760
He's not dead!
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>>150712808
Gruppa krovi na rukave
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I just finished watching it. It's strange, most of the popular theories were realised, but at the same time I kind of feel that this episode went overboard.
It was almost all exposition and drama but the buildup of tension has not really been there.

Next PI is orange fanta world guaranteed.
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>>150712808
>"that's it"
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>thought this was just going to be a surreal feelgood science fantasy adventure thing with an episodic plot
>actually just a standard sci-fi

Only yuri can save FlipFlap now, and I fear it's already been abandoned

I hate Cocana
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As always, Punished Yayaka did nothing wrong.
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cocona should've pulled her dick out and jerked off to hospitalized yayaka
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>>150712953
I swear /a/ is more melodramatic than a teenage girl. It is both a surreal feel good fantasy adventure and a story with a plot. You can have it all. For the story to connect with the audience in a meaningful way their has to be some conflict.

This episode just gave you all the missing details and set up the final conflict. Now they will put the love of Papika and Cocona to the test. When the series ends and we get a happy ending the journey will have matters, you will feel great.

Don't get your panties in a fucking knot, just relax and enjoy the adventure.
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>>150713099
I want to see the love between two young girls, not a little kid and a middle aged woman. It's weird now.
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>it's a "top-secret research facility full of orphans" episode
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>>150712953
I hate you.
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>>150712953
BULY
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I think my main problem here is that while they've never been shy with references, it's always been some fun take on it, the Marimite episode is the best example.

This really was just End of Flipflap and not much else.
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>>150713179
Have a little faith in the writers. We know PI can influence memory and change a person. There are plenty of ways this can play out that end with happy Papika and Cocona.
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>>150713179
Stop posting this delusional crap. It's not like that. The show says otherwise.
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How do you live 10 years with someone and don't realize they are a robot
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>>150713300
Same way you live 10 years with someone and don't realize they are a serial killer.
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>>150713280
I assume it has to be people who never really cared for that relationship to begin with saying this kind of thing because you are by no means forced to interpret it that way by the show.
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Dropped.
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>>150712676
>be straight with you
>straight with you
>straight
>straight
I'm going to have nightmares about heterosexual girls now, thanks asshole.
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>>150712760
I dont want him to die

>cocona
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>>150713410
>heterosexual girls
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At least we can all agree that Yayaka is best girl.
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>>150713179
Jesus christ are we going to do this all week? There are a ton of ways for them to make it not weird. We know almost nothing about Papika still, especially our current Papika.
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We were all wrong. FliFla really went to shit
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>>150713440
Yes.
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>>150713462
Best episode yet
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>>150713389
She has "lol jk" written all over her face.
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>>150713376
It's always darkest before the dawn. This is the point in the relationship where everything looks the worst. Just like Cocona we feel there is no way out, its nothing but suffering from this point forward. Love will find a way anon. Papika loves Cocona and Cocona, even if she won't admit it right now, loves Papika.

We will get conflict and resolution and it will be glorious. If we are lucky we will also get kissu
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>Grandma used a wheelchair to not make cranking noises when she walks

Deepest lore
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Ironically Phantom World got good during the second half of the season. Complete opposite of FliFla.
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>>150713389
So what was the point of having her fake being crippled?
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>>150713447
Papika is currently Salt-old in an ageless body, in love with Mimi who happens to be lodged in Cocona's thigh who's Mimi's daughter. How do you unfuck this?
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>>150713570
Metal has a lot more weight when it hits the floor, Cocona probably'd have noticed, that's my theory anyway
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>>150713523
It's obviously going to happen. The whole problem would be solved if Cocona lets Papika explain her side of the story completely instead of refusing to listen. She thinks Papika has been lying to her the whole time like everyone else but infact she is just about the only person to have been telling her the truth all of the time. She just never got to find that out because she was too pissed off at everything.
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>>150712808
I hurt myself today
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>>150713602
You unfuck it because none of those things are actually in the show.
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>>150713570
Make her seem more pitiable, so Cocona doesn't go astray.

Too bad the KKK didn't count on Papika's puppy charm.
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>>150712808
>"Just kill me famm"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
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>>150712808
>yes mother
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>>150712676
Is this like the 5th thread today?
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I picked the worst fucking week to get caught up with this shit.

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO SENPAI?
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Just saw the latest episode

HOLY SHIT
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>>150712808
Is this the face of mercy?
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>>150713602
>How do you unfuck this?
But all is right in the world tho?
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>>150713179
>It's weird now.
This
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>>150713702
Memories got altered. They changed her umwelt.
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>>150713702
She has friends because Cocona and Papika fixed her
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>>150713698
We always need to go deeper, anon.
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>>150713632
Cocona got manipulated by twins.
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place your bets

will last episode give us a...k-kissu?
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>>150713440
Explain how Yayaka can be so fucking hot.
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>>150713698
Yeah, and they have all had between 600-800 posts., and people will still claim its still not popular enough or good enough for people to watch.

Oh well
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>>150713698
Got a link to the first? I want to see the reactions
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>>150713784
The first two were absolute shitfest. Don't look at it.
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>>150712808
This is PTSD on a level even Okabe can relate to
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I know a lot of you are diehard fans and won't share my opinion, but I'm pretty disappointed in what Flip Flappers has turned out to be. It appeared to be a coming-of-age story for girls, that addressed common problems the average girl faces growing up like shyness, uncertainty about the future, bicuriosity, etc. I really thought that that, coupled with the beautiful PI worlds they visited, would make this show a classic.

Turns out, that's not the direction 3Hz wanted the show to go. It's not about an average girl growing up. Cocona isn't a normal girl. She's the daughter of the chosen one. Her grandmother isn't a calm and understanding parental figure. She's a robot spy. And the rest of Flip Flappers' plot is just an Eva rip-off.

I just want my coming of age story back.
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I want to slap Cocona so fucking hard for being a cunt to Papika.
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>>150713440
This was so underplayed but it was by far one of the best "friend/rival sacrifices themselves so hero can escape" we've had in a long time.

Yayaka has the spirit of November 11
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>>150713777
Who does? I mean it's certainly not popular in Japan but it's quite popular here on /a/.
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>>150713784

>>150669356
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>tags
>age-gap yuri, NTR, mindbreak,shota, loli, milf
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>>150713814
Not to mention her best friend is old enough to be her mother
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>>150713842
you forgot:
>robots
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>>150713814
We have hundreds of coming of age stories already, fuck off
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>>150713784
>>150669356
Pre-airing to airing

>>150713838
Right after airing
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>>150713777
Nichijou had 500+ replies threads too, could not save it from being a flip flop.
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So this area is the remains of the research facility right? And that's why it reminded Papika of Mimi?
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>>150713814
Well it was a coming of age story at least on Cocona's part
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>>150713814
Anon Cocona was clearly never going to be a normal girl, she had super-special MC written all over her from the very beginning
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>>150713814
The writers made you think it was going to be one thing then it turns out to be entirely unexpected and different I quite like that.

This episode explained so much, humanized Salt a lot, and just ranks as one of the best episodes of the show for me it was so beautifully done, it didnt feel like an exposition dump either the realizations just happened gradually and naturally and the ending twist was a genuine unexpected surprise.

>mfw I now realize where they took Cocona when the robots captured her
>BACK FUCKING HOME

QUESTION IS, did FlipFlap and Salt know?
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>>150712808
>everyone has lied to me, time to fuck this world's shit up
Cocona/Mimi final boss.
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>>150713523
>Love will find a way anon
>no, its cool Papika, I'm gonna look past your history with my parents, and that you're a middle aged woman trapped in a preteen body
I don't want love to find a way.
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>>150713440
No. Coconuts mum
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>>150713902
Yes
>>150713298
>>150713368
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>>150713777
Those are just crossboarders, anon. They have outed themselves multiple times with the way they talk about the show.
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>>150713902
Looks like a good place for the final battle.
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>>150713902
>the garland of flowers

Ohh fuck, but who was that kid on the computer in that scene carrying a shard, we still dont know
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>>150713964
I tought you people had thicker skin
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>>150713964
Then you have lost your way
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This was kinda hot
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>>150714015
>Is this the most punchable face? -gawker
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>GRADNMA WAS A ROBOT
I always thought she was the mastermind behind everything. I have mixed feelings it's kinda unexpected and disapointing at the same time.
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Is Yayaka dead?
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>>150713964
>Hey Papikana, you love me for me and not just because I'm a substitute for my mom, right?
>Sure thing, Mim- Cocona.
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>>150712808
>you can't beat the cockona
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>>150714049
KKK dude wanted to retrieve her, I think, so she may yet live.
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>>150714049
They wouldn't offscreen-kill Yayaka, so no
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>>150713023
Reminder that Cocona is a cross-dressing boy.
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>>150714036
You are the most punchable face.
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>>150712808
Now I've lost it
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>>150712808
Mindbreak
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Papika will find her lost Cocona a second time
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>>150713947
I think they did. Both sides knew the shards were useless you have all of them, and FF was expecting KKK to attack. I think they either wanted to get as many shards as possible before mind fucking Cocona or didn't want to provoke KKK to hit them back too soon
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I wonder if Cocona will wear red-coloured contacts when she and Papikana make love.

Maybe she'll grow her hair out for Papikana, too.
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Will we ever see a screenful of delicious Coconass again?
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This episode made me like Yayaka a lot more but Papika and Coocna are still best girls and best yuri.

>but how is it that Papika looks as young as she does in the flashbacks with Mimi?

Just how old is Papika!?

>age gap yuri possible

Hnnngg
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>>150714163
Cocona will find herself probably after yayaka smacks some sense into her, and then find her lost Papikana.
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Spectacular episode.

Gave me the same feeling Rebellion did after watching it the first time. It was somehow even gayer. Cocona is just a typical shoujo protagonist who gets jealous so easily.
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>all the shards have been collected
>no more Pure Illusion
>no more Henshin
>no more Studio Pablo

Toot toot here comes the exposition train
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>>150714118
I know I can kill
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>>150714163
I want Cocona to "Mitsuketa" this time.
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>>150712808
>I'm so fucked up
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>>150714221
Anon Pure Illusion is still a thing even if all the shards have been found. If anything it's going to be even more important since it's central to both sides' plans.
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>>150714221
The last PI world with the tiny man and his city and giant robot fighting didnt really appeal it was one of the lamest PI's desu
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>>150714221
>no more Pure Illusion
>no more Henshin
This would suck but I'm pretty sure they'll be back.
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>>150714272
Last PI was the Street Fighter IV training stage
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>>150714221
>>no more Studio Pablo
Anon, last episode they did a few of the backgrounds.
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Why the fuck Mimi had her plot bending powers? Hopefully it's not something like she's Jesus reincarnated or whatever.
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>>150714275
Of course it will be back, once the real world and Pure Illusion begin to merge.
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>>150712808
>Cocona starts watching maho precure
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>>150712808
So how will the dialogue beetween her and Papika be?

>I've seen what you've been doing with my daughter
>You sick fuck
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>>150712808
Tetsuo is cute! CUTE!
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>>150714322
She's just subject 33
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How old is papikana compared to cocona
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>>150712808
>you cant beat the cockoner
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>>150714417
If she was the same age as Salt and Mimi when they met, then she must be in her 30s now.
Cocona is 14 or 15.
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>>150714417
She's the same age as Salt, and Salt is clearly Cocona's dad.
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>>150714417
Too old.

Someone should call the police.
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>>150714403
The twins aren't special like her though, from what we've seen, and supposedly they were created later with better tech. It's weird how special she is.
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>>150714417
She was a cake before Cocona was even conceived.
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>>150714467
The police are robots
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Maybe baby Coconuts was born with the amorphous in her leg. Its not a scar, its a birthmark.

KKK was gonna do weird experiments on her, Mimi tried to save her by taking her to PI, the only place they could never get to her. But going by herself just destroyed her body, and everyone thought baby Cocos died with her. Which is why Salt (if he is her father) never tried to find her. Papika eventually found a way to get to PI herself to try and find Mimi, but going in alone fucked up her body and memories.

Of course this is all going to be completely wrong by next Thursday, but it was fun to write.
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>>150714493
The whole thing seems pretty trial-and-error, I don't think they really understand what the factor is that allows someone to go to PI.
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Papikana = / = Papika

Papika is an innocent and cute 14yr old
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Was Papika raised to be retarded?

>sleeps naked in a ball pit
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>>150713814
At times like this, I like to reiterate something someone said... Art, once you see it, belongs more to you than to the author. What you got out of it, the vibrant landscapes your imagination flew to before the "big reveals" will always be much more compelling than anything the creators could have come up with.

Maybe you or someone like you will become a creator, and take what this show gave you, mold it into what you feel FLFL should have been all along.
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>>150714563
No, she was born to be retarded.
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>>150714531
>on her
I think more likely KKK was gonna exploit Mimi while holding Cocona as hostage. Mimi had to self-destruct to foil KKK's scheme and also save Cocona.
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>>150714558
This is pretty much where I'm standing until we have confirmation otherwise.
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>>150714558
With the mind of a lecherous middle-aged lesbian
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This episode just raises more questions, so many more.

I hate having to wait another week now to see if they answer them
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>>150714585
Is Papika the cutest retard in all of anime?
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>>150714563
They raised her wrong, as a joke
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>>150714585
Livin' the dream.
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>>150714563
>Raised since a tender age in a research facility
>Probably they never bothered with a proper education or common sense
>yfw Papikana was like a pet monkey amusing the scientists with her silly behavior
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>>150714417
Papikana = 40
Cocona = 15
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Fuck all of you. Papika is a good GIRL.
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Cute papicoco doujin:

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_structural_formula_of_first_love
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>>150714634
Chocona is cute. CUTE!
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>>150714311
I really like this shot.
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>>150714634
Heh
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>>150714563
She was raised to be a puppy
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>>150714662
and she also didn't die, because Papika became her partner before she went.
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>>150712808
>ISHYGDDT
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>>150714585
What's the actual phrase for what Papika is? She can barely read but can build a spaceship. I'd say she's got the 'tisim but it's her upbringing not biology.
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>>150714641
This
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>>150714634
Undervalued post.
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>>150714685
Savant
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>>150714658
Fuck you, I got excited.
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>>150714558
We were all so innocent a few weeks ago.
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So what was with that guy with the laptop?
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Just gonna throw out two stupid ideas

The fragments are literally pieces of Mimi.

A new Papika gets made that just has the memories with Cocona, separate from Papikana. So we can have the yuri without it being too weird.
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>>150714634
Clearly the KKK isn't the actual KKK, since they found brown kids acceptable. /pol/ ending avoided.
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>>150714688
Oops
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>>150714634
>Lose Mimi
>Jump to Cocona
>Lose Cocona
>Jump to Chocona
That girl rebounds faster than a tennis ball
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>>150714725
They killed the brown kids.
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>>150714634
Chocona is a strong independent loli, that don't need no Mimi.
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So who was the partner who was shown lying unconscious or dead in the very first episode?
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>>150712808
>hfw sales estimate
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This show will end in a cliffhanger, only for the second season/movie/OVA to start with a major timeskip, Rebuilt 3.0 style
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>>150714658
Okay I see what you did
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>>150714634
>>150714725
They also killed the Jewish kids off screen.
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>>150714762
I'm gonna guess a Mimi clone Flip Flaps tried creating, without much success
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>>150714777
I wouldnt mind another season of Papika and Cocona adventures
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>>150714801
>S2
>Papikana has her adult body back
>but nothing else changes
>it gets even gayer
I'd watch it.
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>>150714799
>>150714762
I say its just a random girl.
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>>150714762
Another bust.

FLFL clearly went through a similar process as the original Mimi experiments (since they don't have access to Mimi since she went back to her home planet), except this time trying to find someone compatible with Papika.
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>>150713632
That's not what she thinks. Cocona believes that Papika was genuine while she had amnesia because she was there when Papika's memories started coming back. She saw it first-hand.

What Cocona is angsty about, at least when it comes to Papika, is that the whole Mimi endeavour has put a giant suspicion mark on the roots of Papika's affection for Cocona. She says she loves her for who she is, but how can Cocona buy that? For the last 3 episodes Papika has been confusing her with Mimi, including things as basic as the foods they like and this episode she again called her Mimi when she was waking up. Mimi is "her partner" and dearest friend, the one who showed her Pure Illusion (the one thing Cocona thought was unique about her, that she was the key for Papika to travel to PI as partners). So inevitably, and especially in the emotional state she already was in, Cocona feels like a replacement. A hand-me-down. Like Papika was just interested in recreating her original relationship (consciously or not); this is why she tells her "anyone would have done". The Mimi reveal cuts right into her own little source of self-worth and individual affirmation, something she sorely lacked at the beginning of ep1 before Papika showed her the wonders of lesbian magical adventures.

Learning that Mimi is her mom does absolutely nothing to solve this discord, in fact it only worsens it. Papika has to prove herself, explaining things leads nowhere. It's not an issue of communication.
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>>150714634
BUILD WALL
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>Oh great, this old but attractive lady begged her boss to give me shelter and algo gave me some pretty flow-
>Begonias again
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>>150714762
Yeah this is the question that never gets serious answers. This question really decides if FF is evil too.
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>>150714762
Some phoney nigga who got outlined in chalk
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So did the research lab they flashed back to become the KKK HQ or did the KKK destroy it and the remnants of it are the Flip Flappers in their secret HQ.

How did those KKK cultists even know what PI is, how does the giant glowing tower in their HQ work, where does it even come from.
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>>150714825
>random girl

It's Sayuri!
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>>150714838
Holy shit, enough with the angst porn ok?
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>>150714824
It got really straight today. >>150712676
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>>150714634
Brown lolis are simply the best.
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>>150714622
Ha! Back to foot style, how do you like it?
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>>150714881
It was a young girl, not a cake.
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>>150714854
It's the ruins around the flower field they ended up in at the end of episode 7.
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>>150714854
Research lab was destroyed when Mimi self-destructed because KKK started to exploit Mimi's PI power.
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Did Papika actually narrate her flashback to Coconuts while she stood there pouting or was it just a viewer-aimed flashback
I couldn't quite tell what the framing was supposed to be here
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>>150714838
So the the resolution will be Papika making her understand she's loved for being herself, not Mimi. Comfy themes of self acceptance and worth return. Sounds good
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>>150714984
>actually narrate
something like this figuratively
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>>150714790
I challenge you to a puppy reaction image duel.
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>>150714641
>good girl
She's not a girl. She's a cake.
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>>150713179
This is why absolutely everyone hates yurifags. Everything lives and dies by how much and what type of patty slapping is involved. You can't even engage in proper conversation because you're just that fucking retarded.
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>>150714984
I think the idea is that Cocona now knows the beginning just like the audience does.
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>>150714838
Cocona she is the family doggo not youre waifu
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>>150715019
I can't tell if that answered my question

>>150715029
Shit son
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I'm going to be so fucking mad if Yayaka doesn't get a good ending.
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>>150714838
I think she thinks she has been deceived by Papika actually and doesn't believe she never knew anything. She questions her on that multiple times.
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>>150715049
Would you have a problem with that post if one of them was male?
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>>150715064
She'll help Coconuts calm down, confess her feelings, get rejected, then cry as she tells Cocona to go get her waifu back.
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>when it airs
>HOLY SHIT AOTYAY
>after it airs
>IT'S SHIT, WASTED POTENTIAL, >>>/reddit/, etc.
What's its name, /a/?
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>the sound she makes here
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>>150715139
Flip Floppers.
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>>150714984
This is a really common form of flashback used in anime, and to a lesser extent in tv and film.

The basic idea is that you as the viewer see the flashback in the form it's presented, and you're expected to assume that the character explained or conveyed the content of this flashback through their narration. In other words, they didn't narrate word for word the flashback that the viewer sees, but summarized the gist of that story and the relevant information therein.

So in other words, when Cocona demanded papika to come clean, papika responded by telling Cocona a story about how she first met Mimi and Salt, how it was love at first sight, and how her making a crown of flowers to put on Cocona's head was actually just her reliving a memory where she watched Salt put a crown on Mimi's head when they were having a fucking picnic together. Then the flashback ended and Papika continued by telling Cocona how great she thought Mimi was and how- and that that point Cocona had heard enough and cut her off.

When you understand the content of that scene it makes it a little easier to see why Cocona reacted the way she did. She was already feeling insecure and used and instead of getting actual answers from Papika, she got a story about how much Papika liked Mimi and how they would do fun things together before meeting Cocona. Papika got caught up in her own memory and veered off on a tangent about how great Mimi was instead of giving Cocona the answers she was looking for. The important thing here too is that while the viewer and Cocona were ostensibly subject to the same information, the viewer will have learned more from it than Cocona because certain details fit into things the viewer already knows.
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>>150715139
Something popular on /a/ is bound to attract haters
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>>150715139
Your favorite anime
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>>150713440
Yayacute.
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>>150715186
Nice essay
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Current Papika, I believe, is very likely a clone of the one who spent her time with Mimi and Salt, considering we've seen her in the flashback when Mimi and Baby Cocona disappeared, and thus she should have aged alongside them (and the PV for ep11 has shown a grown-up Papika).

Assuming Papika did something reckless and got herself killed after Mimi disappeared, it wouldn't be odd for the KKK to want to preserve Papika considering how important she was to their experiment.

In Mimi's case, there were crystals and Cocona (Mimi's child or clone) as catalysts for Mimi's powers, but in Papika's case there was no replacement.

My guess is our current Papika is a clone of the original. However, just cloning her is useless, since it was her relationship with Mimi that opened the door to Pure Illusion, and thus they devised a way in which Papika could receive the memories of the original, and I think this might be related to whatever it is in that thing on her ankle.

That thing on Papika's ankle likely carries a crystal, though not necessarily a Mimi one, but one related to the original Papika. That being said, whatever is in that device seems to react to Mimi's crystals, as shown in the past 4 episodes. I don't think whatever is in there is a Mimi crystal, since all went to Cocona by the end of this episode, and nothing came out from the device in Papika's ankle.

Of course, there's the possibility Papika is the same as always, and somehow got de-aged in Pure Illusion, but all we've seen is PI altering memories and we haven't seen it being able to affect someone physically as to de-age them in the real world (which could be possible, just that is hasn't been shown yet), thus I believe the idea that the Papika we've seen in the show is a clone might be likely.
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>>150715139
The people who actually stick around during the live stream generally tend to be the hardest core of fans, so of course they'll be more enthusiastic than the general public who comes along once subs are out.
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>>150713523
Well shit, this is mandatory drama before their make up/out session. Sometimes this place feels like women going nuts over soup operas. Love it. The citrus threads will be a nightmare.
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>>150715239
>Yayaka Forehead
>it's a Medusa shield that not only reflects light, but also trounces some particular enemies
hue
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What if at the last or second to last episode FliFla get control of the PI world somehow and Coocna wishes to meet her mother so Mimi emerges again and is corporeal and Papika goes full yuri for her and they kissu while Cocona and Yayaka kissu and get together

Happy end that somehow satisfies all.

But I prefer Cocana and Papika kissu desu
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>>150715260
Actually Buu-chan got affected physically
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>>150715335
That's dumb.
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>>150715260
>a clone of the original
The other clones are all much worse than the originals. So probably not a clone.

>carries a crystal
Papika's shard is what Cocona retrieved in ep 1, not what she always has?
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Places your bets /a/nons, on what episode will Yayakat lose her ninth life?
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>>150715139
Not flipflappers, reactions have gotten more positive the more threads we have, initial reactions to ep10, 9 and somewhat 8, hell even 6 and 7, were all negative that slowly get better.
I still didnt like the episode, it's that typical episode made for people who arent really paying attention, as most of the stuff shown in it was already shows or theorized here and yet the author felt we needed to be told straight. Though most people here seem to have warmed up to the episode.

To answer your question, Kill la Kill, every episode stream was fucking hype and three days later all you could hear were nitpicks and disappointment, myself included.
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Where was Buu-chan this whole episode? He disappeared entirely after Papikana and Salt had their little chat
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>>150715335
Nah, Papika oly loves Cocona like that. She's a healthy girl who wants to doggy her bbf's daughter. That's it.
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>>150715335
Eh that kinda sucks
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>>150714838
>That's not what she thinks.
She does, she literally said she thought Papika was using her as a replacement for Mimi and nothing more.

She doesn't believe Papika is being genuine with her, and that she just used her as everyone else.
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>>150715365
After getting tired of hearing Papika and Cocona doing it next to her in the nurse's office, she'll throw herself off the roof.
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GRANDMA'S FUCKING DEAD
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>>150715260
>I don't think whatever is in there is a Mimi crystal, since all went to Cocona by the end of this episode, and nothing came out from the device in Papika's ankle.
There were five streaks going down to Cocona's house in this scene, while only four shards were shown in the part where Papika loses them. Either a production error or they just didn't feel like showing Papika's shard along with the rest.
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>>150715403
Robots can't die
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Mimi is Salt's waifu and YYK is probably going to sacrifice herself to defeat the kkk to complete her redemption arc
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>>150715335
I don't think Papika loved Mimi in the same way she loves Cocona. Salt was the one who made the crow for Mimi, he is the one she had a child with.

Papika was just being a friend to Mimi, and bro with salt.
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So the KKK are doctors who have huge political and state power to be allowed to perform questionable human experiments with dozens of children without any sort of retaliation, and not only that but they control entire institutions such as the health system, probably even more, in FF's society. This was true in Mimi-time, and it kept being true in Yayaka-time. They basically have absolute power over the territory and the people living in it.

So why on earth would they devise this fucking Truman Show shitfest around Cocona instead of seizing her as a newborn and raising her as a lab rat exactly like they did with Mimi, Papika, Yayaka and all the other fucking kids. It'd be insanely easy to get her to cooperate and since she has a fragment, she doesn't need a partner to reach PI.
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I'm guessing I'm not the only one who noticed, but adult Papika next week. I hope you're ready.

She's actually pretty cute, I'd like to steal her from her girlfriend.
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>>150715445
Letting her live a normal life and observing her were clearly the intention behind their experiments with Cocona. They probably saw the outcome of Mimi's experiments as a failure and wanted to avoid that happening again.
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>>150714840
For what purpose? So that you can keep all those brown lolis tight, Mr. President?
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>>150715445
KKK is not who are running the lab and tests in the flashback, they are not at all cult like and mysterious then, the remnants of that lab form Flip Flap, possibly after KKk attack
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>>150715365
None.
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>>150715152
>the sounds she makes at all times
muhun~
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>>150714794
>party hard.jpg
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>>150715468
No no no I'm not ready to see Ppika in this way
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>>150715468
How is an angsty little girl like Cocona going to satisfy this breeding sow?

Fat Papipig slut needs a real woman
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>>150715445
>why on earth would they devise this fucking Truman Show shitfest around Cocona instead of seizing her as a newborn and raising her as a lab rat

Mimi didn't enter PI when she was locked alone in a room. Its when she went outside with Salt and Papika that she was able to enter. It appears to be that being a lab rat is not always conducive to PI and low impedance
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So Mimi is the witch? they made FF too sympathetic to pull an evil organization twist. Even Salto seems like an okay guy.
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>>150715445
Well, mental state is probably important to what they're trying to accomplish. Obviously we knew this to an extent with the "impedance" mechanics. And Mimi seemed to need to connect to someone on a genuine and personal level in order to go to PI.
And Yayaka does keep going on about how Cocona's mindset is totally different from hers. Maybe that was the point?
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>>150715380
dead
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>>150715437
Nah, she'll slap some sense into one of cocopapi first, tell them to get out there and be happy/make Coconuts happy.
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>>150715539
>Mimi didn't enter PI when she was locked alone in a room
She did though. That's what is being said literally.
>She's the only one who can go to Pure Illusion.
I think the lab needs she to pair up for something more advanced.
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>>150715479
Yeah except the entire plan involves cutting her thigh wide open and taking out her stone. There's no 'development' to be had and according to Yayaka Cocona isn't viewed as being any different to the other clone children.

>>150715495
No, the flashback lab are clearly the same people running the show in the Yayaka flashback from episode 9. And the episode 9 people are the KKK. Something might have changed internally in the organization, but their access to power remained the same all the way through.

>>150715539
That didn't seem to be relevant to Yayaka and the twins. Once you have a fragment, you're good.
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>>150715553
>Salto seems like an okay guy.

Have you ever seen him deny a request from his daughter? He pretends to be all serious then always gives into her demands. He even let Yayaka stay knowing that shit was going to go down.

Unlike Gendo, he actually is an good father
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>yfw urobutcher is responsible for last episode's storyboard
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>>150715468
>Mmm that's a sexy baby you have there, Mimi
Delete Old Papika
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>>150715605
He deliberately withheld information when Cocona asked about things.
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>>150715049
t. manko
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>>150715605
>Even Salto seems like an okay guy.
He's best boy after all.
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>>150715630
because reasons
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>>150715630
Because he knew that knowing would upset her at a time when she needed her to stay focused. Not a good decision but understandable.
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>>150715630
Sometime parents keep secrets from their children for their own good. It does not make them a bad parent.
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>>150715342
In PI, not the real world.
We've seen a fuckton of things being affected physically in PI, but those things don't carry on to the real world.
The only times the real world has been affected, has been through memories only, thus far.

>>150715345
>The other clones are all much worse than the originals.
They were made from crystals, though.

>Papika's shard is what Cocona retrieved in ep 1, not what she always has?
Nope, whatever is inside the thing in Papika's ankle is unrelated to whatever they've retrieved from PI.

>>150715412
Very likely an animation error, since only 4 shards went toward Cocona (pic related).
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>>150715672
When the secret you're keeping from your child is the fact that you are their parent, yeah it does make you a bad parent.
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>>150715632
chu?
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>>150715599
>the entire plan involves cutting her thigh wide open and taking out her stone
No the plan is for her to go around finding fragments so Yayaka can steal them from her. The fact that Cocona and Papika can stumble into fragments without trying clearly separates them from the amorphous kids
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What if Papika is secretly in love with Salto?
>unrequited love
>just like Cocona
>and Yayaka
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>>150715679
I wouldn't call it an animation error since the sfx aligned properly in both shots. Rather it was a continuity error, and probably goes back all the way to the storyboards.
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>>150715679
>They were made from crystals, though.
That's not what's being said. Yayaks says they are genetically engineered with amorphous power. Clones still.

>Nope, whatever is inside the thing in Papika's ankle is unrelated to whatever they've retrieved from PI.
Are you saying her ankle contains two shards?
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>>150712808
Mindbreak
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I want Salt to hug Cocona
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>>150715692
Salto saw Eva, he knows how that shit goes down
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>>150715692
She was in the hands of the KKK her entire life, and didn't really know her. By telling her he was her father, it would upend her entire worldview.
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>>150715709
What if everyone is secretly in love with Salt?
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>>150715679
>Nope, whatever is inside the thing in Papika's ankle is unrelated to whatever they've retrieved from PI.
Where is this fragment then? Or are you saying that's not a fragment? She clearly uses it to henshin, just like Cocona uses hers.
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>>150715692
When she has no memories of you and is living with a robot spy from the organization trying to rule the world maybe telling her the whole truth isn't the best plan.
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>>150715746
Seems plausible.
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>>150715605
>mfw that creppy smile when he sees Cocona in ep 3 is an honest "I'm proud of you" smile
Maybe he's a good dad and KKK just put many barriers between him and his daughter.
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>>150712808
it's over isn't
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>>150715745
>it would upend her entire worldview.
Yeah, by giving her a father.
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>>150713819
It's cause she hasn't died yet.

They're saving it for the finale
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>>150715746
>harem MC not afraid to treat his waifus
Not buying it.
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>>150715709
>falling in love with the guy that NTR'd you
This is an entirely new dimension of doujin plot.
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Place your bets: Will Evafags get BTFO too next episode or the one after that?

Also, what do you think is the significance of the change of scenery from a bleak industrial area full of robots, to a lush green hill with a lot of windmills on top of it? Do you think there's a reality-bending in this show, not just inside PI?
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>>150713389
what did she mean by that
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What if Papika is a copy of Papikana at a younger age? For example, Papikana grew up, had her experiences then got Mimi'd but this Papika only remembers her initial time as a 13/14 year old with Mimi?
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>>150715862
I don't think Kiyotaka Oshiyama wants to make his debut too much of a rip-off. He's aware of this at least.
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>>150715862
I can't wait for Papika's aishiteru. Cocona so clearly is in love with her and so clearly is heartbroken that she thinks she doesn't mean anything to her. I'm feeling healed already by PURE LOVE.
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Salt gives no fucks
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>>150715887
It feels like there wouldn't have been any point in using amnesia as a plot device were that the case.
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>>150715914
>no camisole
this makes me sad
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>>150715908
At this point a happy ending would almost be subverting expectations, especially with everyone is comparing it to NGE or Madoka
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>>150715785
That's still something that can upset a person's world. I have a friend who met his mother for the first time at 20 and he was messed up for weeks. Not the best idea to do to some you're sending into manifestations of psyche.
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>>150715874
>I heard you got a girlfriend, Cocona. Not on grandma's watch
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>>150715914
I'm still holding out for this end anon. I really am. I just feel like I'm in despair right now. Anxiety over how they're going to resolve all this and let them be happy together is killing me.
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>>150715679
>The only times the real world has been affected, has been through memories only, thus far.
Wrong. Explain this, then.
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>>150715980
Oh Grandma has no idea the kind of things Papika got on her watch
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>>150715297
OH FUCK, Sayuri/Buu-chan/Hidaka didn't give Papika the old gym clothes and swimsuit, it was Papika's old clothes all along.
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>>150715928
True that. There's just no good way to solve the mess they introduced into CocoPapi by making the pupper a doggo.
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>>150716010
huh
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Cocona: Papika, I love you!
Papika: Ehhhhhhh? Kimochi warui.
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>>150715993
Dude, this is straight out of a love story flick. The female protagonist just found out the love interest's dark secret, said the very typical "I hate you!", ran away, and is now in deep shit. This has reconciliation kiss written all over it. Normally I'd just say friends end but Cocona has no reason to be this mad at Papika if she weren't heartbroken.
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>>150716000
What? Nearly getting dragged to an S&M party by a figure that looks strangely like her mother.
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>>150715706
So you are saying that the entire plan, from day 1, when Cocona was a baby, was to pair her up with specifically Papika because specifically Papika is what makes the fragments be drawn to the PIs they are in, as opposed to Cocona? That seems even less doable than the Truman shit. They could also simply take Papika by force once they find her, once again they have absolute power.

Either they introduce a new factor next episode that prevents this scenario from existing or the KKK (and therefore this whole plot) is dumb as hell.
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>>150715914
So much happening in this episode and didn't pay much attention at Cocona's jealousy. It was adorable as fuck.
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>>150715995
That was a visual metaphor for Cocona's shock as the foundation of her life revealed itself as a lie.
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>>150716010
...But why did Papika have a mahou shoujo outfit?
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>>150715375
The reaction isn't negative the shitposters just get bored and stop.
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>>150716083
That was a present, remember?
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>>150715679
The thing inside Papika's anklet is the fragment from episode 1. Look at this part from episode 2 sorry can't into webm, she is clearly taking the fragment out of the anklet. This is the same fragment she uses to transform, and her SSJ sequence in episode 2 has her anklet shine implying that's where the fragment is.
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>>150716114
>Cockona
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>>150716010
HOLY SHIT
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>>150715958
From the episodes so far I don't think the show has the ambition or enough room left to make a grand narrative like NGE or Madoka. If it does somehow it will really subvert my expectations but I think most likely trying that is like playing with fire, it's quite easy to botch the entire thing. Happy ending after hardship is a good way to concluded. Bittersweet can be even better.
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>>150716062
We don't know exactly what Cocona was born for or even where she came from exactly so it's hard to speculate on the entire plan. We don't know which side exactly planned her becoming what she is, or even how many sides there really are. But they've clearly been using her as an amorphous-hound, which clearly is a role only she and Papika can fill. And emotional state is important to being able to go to PI, so they can't just brainwash her or whatever. I don't see what part of this is hard to get.
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>>150716177
I've had enough bittersweet. I want full on happy, everyone lives, PapiCoco confirmed, Yayaka's smile is protected, beloved magical girlfriend isn't a creepy pedophile ending.
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>>150716010
SHIT
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>>150716086
Well, they have school tomorrow.Gotta acknowledge their responsibility.
>>150716010
Mahou shoujo outfit has to be Sayuri's. Hope we see a young version of her next ep.
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>>150712808
>I'll destroy everything
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>>150712676
>Papika lives in the end but reverts to Christmas cake age
>she becomes Cocona's stepmother
>Cocona ends up dating Yayaka
How would this make you feel?
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1480617882187.webm
>>150715679
>>150716114
Here is the webm where Yayaka tried to stab it out.
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>>150716260
Angry, really angry
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>>150714049
She better fucking not be. Otherwise I read 5 /y/ scat doujins
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>>150712808
>HERE'S MIMI
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>>150712808
>and you thought this was going to be fun?
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>>150716260
Happy, really happy.
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>>150716260
PhD levels of salt. I like it better than a bittersweet end, but I can't buy into that swerve this far in
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>>150715723
Sure, but an error nonetheless.

>>150715728
>>150715751
>>150716286
>>150716114
>That's not what's being said. Yayaks says they are genetically engineered with amorphous power. Clones still.
Yeah, but not perfect clones.

>Are you saying her ankle contains two shards?
Yes, the one from EP1 and others that are related to the original Papika

>>150715995
That was Cocona being shocked after taking too much shit.
If you meant whatever destroyed the robots, that's indeed a manifestation of power, but not actual alterations to reality like changing memories or making people younger.
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>>150716260
BRS animu had an ending like that for one of the pairings. Except Saya-chan-sensei probably waited for Yuu to grow up to molest her.
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>>150716177
The thing is you kinda can't go back from 10. The status quo was absolutely obliterated, so they need a big plot roundup that affects the entire world and setting of FF. This is a problem I have with the direction they took the story, although I guess it's more about my personal expectations.

The early episodes of FF were quite grounded in real life. We get half an episode of Cocona's real life, with mundane things that define characterization like choosing schools and becoming interested in something (painting). The PI adventures worked like a counterpoint, a contrast highlighting certain elements and character beats as Papika showed her the imaginative side to life. But it was still firmly anchored in a low-key, character-based coming of age stories, despite the plot hintings which took up less than 1/10th of the runtime.

The later episodes have been moving more and more into this grand conspiracy plot thing, culminating with the Grannybot that implies 'normal life' never actually existed to begin with. The nature of the story was bluntly moved away from what it was at the beginning, even if the focus is still on Cocona's charcter arc. And I don't feel like this shift actually makes any point besides adding plot in order to create the conflicts they wanted to create (and could've created in more fitting ways through skillful writing).

Basically the scope of the story started feeling more as FLCL and gradually turned into freaking Lain.
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>>150716260
I think I would finally lose the ability to feel.
I wasn't ready for another Mayoiga so soon. I think I might need to take a break from anime if this goes for a cop-out ending of those proportions.

I intend to cancel my preorders if they don't fix this Papipedo shit before the finale.
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>>150716380
>Basically the scope of the story started feeling more as FLCL and gradually turned into freaking Lain.

AOTS confirmed
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>>150712808
>I truly am the flipflapper
Couldn't resist
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>>150716403
No, it's a bad thing! Oshiyama can't make that kind of show for shit! Ep10 is a mess!

Oshiyama showed his storycrafting chops in his Dandy episode, and that's the kind of mode that suits him considering the early eps. His mind isn't attuned to create these complicated all-encompassing narratives with dozens of plot threads floating around to be honest.
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>>150716415
Looks like the plot took a 180 and everything got flip flapped on it's head
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2ch comments

>NyuNyu is really cute
>Papika has boobs
>Papika will be clone of Papikana
>I wonder when third impact is going to happen
>Glad we got to see Yayaka's pantsu
>Cocona was originally empty, now she has reached the very bottom, don't worry it will definitely end with self affirmation.
>What happened to Uexkull?
>Really good episode but it was really gloomy.
>Thinking objectively, Yayaka remains in the most dangerous situation right now.
>Always end up worrying about the characters now, unlike first three episodes, every week is great though even if it worries me.
>No doubt we will have to watch until the end to get all the answers but I can't stop thinking about them now.
>To leave NyuNyu out, she must be the key to third impact, don't you agree?
>So what did the Nail Clippers mean?
>Grandma evil, like Hansel and Gretel
>It has been a while since I watched anime that gave me these feelings.
>I want to go to Pure Illusion with Sayuri.
>Great episode, worried about what will happen next.
>Cocona panstu shot.
>Flip Flappers follows the Jo-ha-kyu method of storytelling seriously. (Beginning, break, rapid)
>Inner thigh lines on Yayaka were sexy.
>Yayaka took the flowers when she ran away.
>Salt's fathers glasses look like Cocona's glasses.
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>>150712808
>record scratch
>Yeah, that's me. I bet you're thinking how I ended up like this. Well, it's a long story.
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>>150716476
You could even say that the Yayacat is out of the bag.
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>>150716260
How about:
>Papikana and Papika separate people
>has her memories by PI fuckery
>Papikana shows up, takes her own memories back
>"oh, but that was never really me at all was it..."
>Papikana and Salt proceed to sacrifice selves to save Cocona, free Mimi's spirit and stop the KKK
>Salt, Mimi and Papikana live on in PI as its guardians
>epilogue sees them visiting the desert people, Pops, buff Uexkull
>looking from PI to the real world, see PaCoYa enjoying life etc
>PapiCoco kissu
>Yayaka and your favorite minor character are a couple now
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>>150716473
Yet almost all of the plot threads are being used for something. Done really well. Oshiyama is great at this kind of storytelling.
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Fuck aunty Pup! Fuck aunty Pup!
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>>150716490
>I want to go to Pure Illusion with Sayuri.
Is this her boyfriend posting?
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Is this what being NTR'd feels like?

I feel betrayed, fuck If I were cockona i'd kill everyone.
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>>150716508
The purity of this show was an illusion all along.
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>>150716543
10/10
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>>150716490
>>I wonder when third impact is going to happen
Third impact = Mimi awakening. This episode was 25': Air, complete with troops invading the base and fucking shit up. Now we go into 26': Yours Sincerely, which might be a two-parter. 13 is One More Final: I Need You
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>>150716544
No, it was her girlfriend.
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>>150716490
>Yayaka took the flowers when she ran away.

Forever the romantic, Yayaka remains best girl.
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>>150716520
>>Yayaka and
Yuyu
This episode she was shown worried for Toto, and yet the KKK guy told them they couldn't wait until Toto got better.

Yayaka just needs to push the right buttons to get them on her side. Then she can tap that Yuyu sweet ass.
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>>150716561
You might say Cocona was living in a Pure Illusion.
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>>150716490
>It has been a while since I watched anime that gave me these feelings.

I knew the nips would recognize quality eventually. They are not wrong, this is easily the best thing I have watched in a long time
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>>150716490
>So what did the Nail Clippers mean?
My fucking sides
God bless you 11s
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>>150716598
Trully it was the /u/ fags who where living in some kind of Pure Delusion all along.
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>>150716380
You're probably right if this work is gonna make it into legendary-tier it will feel more like FLCL or Lain instead of NGE or Madoka because the latter two are exposition heavy grand narratives while the first two have similarly whimsical visual storytelling which is exactly what this show does best. So when I say botching I meant this show better goes on with its whimsical visual storytelling and not gets heavy-handed with exposition.

So to answer the original question, this is not gonna satisfy evafags. But I don't actually know if Oshiyama can pull off some amazing story like that.
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>>150716520
>Yayaka and your favorite minor character are a couple now
Yayayuyu spinoff when? Totos need not apply.
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>>150712808
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>>150716490
>Yayaka took the flowers when she ran away.
>Taking the one sided love flowers
For real? that's romantic as fuck. Now I'm kinda want a Yayaka end. Just a bit.
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>>150716630
>Cocona joins the uyoku dantai
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>>150716524
>used for something
To create a middling story that isn't unique?

You know what was unique? The early episodes. They put a cool spin on the self-discovery theme. The current way of approaching it is a well-trodden road that has been visited by people much more skilled at doing it.
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>>150716490
>>It has been a while since I watched anime that gave me these feelings.
>and not buying the BDs
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Papika's kiss will save this smile.
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>>150716490
>It has been a while since I watched anime that gave me these feelings.
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>>150716680
>Yayaka winning the coconuts bowl all along

Is this the power of meme magic?
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>>150716490
Do you think they care about us, too?
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>>150713179
>not learning old people are just people too
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>>150716490
>It has been a while since I watched anime that gave me these feelings.
Fucking nips, they understand.
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>>150716711
*Yayaka's
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>>150716490
>Inner thigh lines on Yayaka were sexy.

That's cute. We talked about that too.
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>>150716473
>His mind isn't attuned to create these complicated all-encompassing narratives with dozens of plot threads floating around to be honest.
Oshiyama wrote episode 7, that episode handled all sorts of stuff going on with all the different papikas, their personalities, and how Cocona reacted to them.
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>>150716715
They translate our/the /u/ threads every week and there are several mentions of 4chan in their current thread.
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>>150716715
There's a blog that posts comments from here translated into Japanese.

So yeah, I'd say they do.
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>>150716700
>uyoku dantai
>he Great Japan Patriots, supportive of the US-Japan-South Korea alliance against China and North Korea and against communism as a whole, would always have the US national flag flying side by side with the Japanese flag in the vehicles and US military marches played alongside their Japanese counterparts.
They sound like bros.
Though I don't see why a depressed Cocona would feel like becoming a patriot.
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>>150716783
W-what do they think about us?
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>>150716812
They probably think we're retardd
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>>150716785
>>150716783
>they read my bait posts and think we're actually retarded

I feel bad now
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>>150716741
What if they both kiss her at the same time, making it a triangle kiss? They also end up kissing each other doing it but that can't be helped.
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>>150716623
But I used FLCL and Lain to contrast, because the reach and scope of their stories are polar opposites. It's not about how much exposition they use. Lain's climax is pretty much Madoka except with less redundant words. FLCL was an allegory employed to represent known ideas in a novel way, simple ideas about personal growth and self-affirmation.

FF 10 was be like if in episode 4 of FLCL, Amarao told Naota why his NO channel is so high, the deep connection Atomsk has with him and set-up a confrontation with Medical Mechanica complete with new villains, all the while Atomsk starts communicating through Canti's monitor. A complete betrayal of what was established before.
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>>150716763
Oshiyama thinks too much. He needs to feel more to do the FLFL story justice.
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BUY THE FUCKING BDs JAPAN
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Hello Japan, I just want to say that Papika is my daughter and I love her so much.
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>>150716865
Didn't he literally say, "don't think, feel," on twitter
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>>150713440
honestly she did less wrong than Papika so yeah
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>>150716900
Yes, that's the point.
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>>150716490
>Salt's fathers glasses look like Cocona's glasses.

Are they the same glasses? It is possible now.
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>>150716543
>30 something JC lover
Now THIS I can self-insert to, as someone who loves Cocona so much. Sadly I'm not female though, but close enough.
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>>150716812
He stopped after episode 8. Episode 9 is when the western FF fan community got really nutso.
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>>150716918
I think they're both just thick-ass nerd glasses.
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>>150716704
To create a great and interesting story told in a very unique way.
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>>150716763
That's what I'm getting at, Oshiyama is great at simple focused storytelling with a couple of symbols that inform character, like episode 7. He's bad at the "TIME FOR PLOT" kinda stuff like the past two episodes. I'm zoning in on Oshiyama because he is the director, he decides the kind of story he is going to tell. Episode writers just go from there, they're secondary.

>>150716900
Should have listened to his own advice before approving episode 10 >;^)
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>>150716918
That would be cute as hell
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>>150716490
>So what did the Nail Clippers mean?
kek

>Salt's fathers glasses look like Cocona's glasses
>hand-me-downs
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>>150716887
>his daughter is a 30-something-years-old feral lesbian pedo
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>>150716713
Hey Cocona, can you move your ass please? I'm trying to watch my anime and it's in the way.
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>>150712808
>>150716630
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>>150716935
They look similar enough that I could buy it but not similar enough that its definitely the case.
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>>150716918
It would be a great twist if the glasses were somehow important. It'd be a callback to episode 1 and it would also explain why she apparently doesn't need them.
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>>150716918
They're probably just KKK standard issue.
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>>150716982
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>>150716949
> >;^)
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>>150716490
>Flip Flappers follows the Jo-ha-kyu method of storytelling seriously

>Jo-ha-kyū (序破急?) is a concept of modulation and movement applied in a wide variety of traditional Japanese arts. Roughly translated to "beginning, break, rapid", it essentially means that all actions or efforts should begin slowly, speed up, and then end swiftly. This concept is applied to elements of the Japanese tea ceremony, to kendō and other martial arts, to dramatic structure in the traditional theatre, and to the traditional collaborative linked verse forms renga and renku (haikai no renga).

Very interesting that does seem to describe Flip Flappers well, it began very slowly then sped up a bit and is now going at break neck speed.
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>>150717072
I don't think spending 4 out of 13 episodes on the finale is "rapid."
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>>150717074
Salto.
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>>150717074
Salt.
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>>150717072
That description makes me think of Kiki, dunno why that came up to my head so fast but it's 100%
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Yayabitch needs to die.
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What end of episode cliffhangers haven't been resolved yet?
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>>150716949
>He's bad at the "TIME FOR PLOT" kinda stuff like the past two episodes.
I don't agree with you.
For me, the last 2 episodes delivered on things that had already been foreshadowed before, and they feel like a natural continuation for what the previous episodes were building up.

The funny thing is these last two episodes weren't even that serious. /a/ makes it sound as if ep10 was like one of the final episodes of Eva or Madoka, but the overall mood was the same as in other episodes of FF, but with more melodrama by the end (and this is melodrama anyone who paid attention to the story could see coming from several weeks ago).
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>>150717104
Compared to spending 6 episodes to learn a couple of facts about Pure Illusion the pace the story is moving now is certainly rapid.
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>>150717072
>tumblr
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>>150717104
But what if we are still in the "speeding up" portion? What's going to happen next?
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>>150717074
The man who cucked salt, Papikana
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>>150717074
Cocona when he's not cross-dressing.
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>>150717072
Average Strike Witches plot.
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>>150717074
Well, he sure isn't Petty officer Louis Mashengo.
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>>150717072
>>150717104
>Zeami, in his work "Sandō" (The Three Paths), originally described a five-part (five dan) Noh play as the ideal form. It begins slowly and auspiciously in the first part (jo), building up the drama and tension in the second, third, and fourth parts (ha), with the greatest climax in the third dan, and rapidly concluding with a return to peace and auspiciousness in the fifth dan (kyū).

>He described the first act as "Love"; the play opens auspiciously, using gentle themes and pleasant music to draw in the attention of the audience. The second act is described as "Warriors and Battles" (shura). Though it need not contain actual battle, it is generally typified by heightened tempo and intensity of plot. The third act, the climax of the entire play, is typified by pathos and tragedy. The plot achieves its dramatic climax. Takemoto describes the fourth act as a michiyuki (journey), which eases out of the intense drama of the climactic act, and often consists primarily of song and dance rather than dialogue and plot. The fifth act, then, is a rapid conclusion. All loose ends are tied up, and the play returns to an auspicious setting.

According to this Flip Flappers just ended its 3rd act. So they have 3 episodes for acts 4 and 5. The weird part is that acts 1 and 2 would take way longer than the other 3, and the act 2 description does not really fit with FF (especially with episodes like 4 and 7)
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>>150717218
Firstly strike witches was great, secondly it's describing a traditional concept of Japanese storytelling not a plot.
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Oh wow. The looney house actually had a purpose, a defense mechanism.
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>>150717280
>looney house
?
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>>150712982
why are they wearing swimsuits in cold weather
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>>150717280
almost like a mechanism to defend... the fragments

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>150717245
she was using the flower pot as a weapon, see the cable coming out from the side
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>>150717218
When will a lesbian Neuroi show up?
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>>150717266
I imagine act three will continue until episode 13 and we will get the normality at the very conclusion.
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>>150717300
Flifla underground base
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>>150716380
>Basically the scope of the story started feeling more as FLCL and gradually turned into freaking Lain.
I personally see it more as Abenobashi Magic Shopping District
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>>150717333
Season 1?
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>>150717245
The flowers were from Sayuri though, and she was using the pot as her weapon.
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>>150716922
Really?
What made them give up after episode 8?
Were the threads going too fast or was there just too much shit to sift through to find anything worth translating?
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>>150717266
>often consists primarily of song and dance rather than dialogue and plot.

MUSICAL IDOL OVER THE RAINBOW EPISODE SOON
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>>150717300
I meant the shit they have to go through in order to enter the base.
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>>150717356
Both probably, and people got really insulting and less fun and funny
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>>150717339
>>150717367
Come on that's called Thomasson
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>himecock
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>>150717341
Abenobashi had the same issue of trying to suddenly change its essence at the end and failing. That show had more of an issue of defining itself as a loosely connected anthology comedy and then suddenly becoming ANNO at the climax I guess. FF just shifted the scope of the story.

Note that both shows 'hinted' at the stuff early on, but hinting is not the same as justifying or validating.
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>>150715102
Definitely yes.
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>>150717367
what where the construction workers thinking when the built a building with doors that open into a pit
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>>150717378
I don't really think much changed beyond the fact that the airing threads gained more shitposting, but part of that is definitely due to the fact that episode 9 was an intense episode and provoked an equally intense reaction from the people watching.

Just like how the ep10 threads have been so angsty and conflicted that people literally started singing linkin park.
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>>150717457
>linkin park
Grandpa pls
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>>150717433
Flip Flappers was never a loosely connected anthology though, it was always a slowly progressing plot, every episode added something. It wasn't merely "hinting" at things and it didn't change it essence, the show naturally becomes more serious as it reached its climax.
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>>150717447
>/ss/
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I've been posting about Flip Flappers for 16 hours.

Swing low, sweet chariot.
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>>150717457
Read >>150717266
from "He dsecribed the first act as "Love"". I think Flip Flappers very convincingly fits into this method of storytelling looking at the acts described there.
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>>150713814
>Wants another coming of age story
>Complains its an EVA rip off

You're the type of bitch who bitches just to bitch. Fuck off and go watch Alien 9.
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>Grandma was an evil KKK robot

Everyone suspected her from the beginning but it was so obvious that it looped back around into being unlikely and here we are now.
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>>150717358
I just hope Yayaka is alive by then.
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>>150717539
Sorry this >>150717539
was for >>150717433
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>>150717487
Well, from the beginning it could have been anything.

You don't see this much in anime, but a lot of western shows will be a loosely connected anthology, with a plot thread running through to the final one or two episodes at most. I would have preferred that rather than making it the total focus in the last 4.

The normal anime pattern of using an episodic adventure to lead into a big finale just doesn't sit well with me.
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>>150717355
Yayaka x Sayuri confirmed?
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>>150717574
It was never episodic adventures though. It was doing this >>150717266
The parts you see as "episodic" were the first act. Gentle and pleasant to draw viewers in.
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>>150717542
I want to be her friend.
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>>150717558
That flipflapping outfit of Papika is extremely sexy.
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>>150717609
And I bet you thought the application of the "monomyth" elevated star wars into an epic rather than a series of fun adventures.
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