AOTS of Winter 2017 has already been decided, yes?
Anything by KinoAni is automatically AOTS.
Got a link to the PV? You already posted AOTS, though. Maid Dragon's cute humor will be hard to top.
>>150649430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-cdrHiGd0
PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-cdrHiGd0
>>150649430
There's already a thread up, just look at--
>two people posting the same link
Great, now you don't have to visit that longer thread.
>>150649349
Wait, that isnt LWA Anon, have you been drinking again?
>>150649558
>Trigger TV anime
No thanks.
>>150649349
Do Kyoanifags actually believe garbage like this or Phantom World to be AOTS or is it just elaborate shitposting?
>>150649349
Maid Dragon doesn't stand a chance.
It will bomb too.
>>150649349
>Rapping in the PV
>High Quality Animation
>Huge tits
>Maid
>Also a fucking dragon
Anime is saved.
>>150649657
LWA TV anime will flop too. The OVAs were only popular in the west. Rakugo S1 also flopped and is incredibely overrated on /a/ just like FliFla this season. That isekai anime got stale after the 5th episode, it wasn't AOTS material a year ago and it won't be AOTS next season either.
>>150649587
Never underestimate Kyoanishitters.
>>150649349
Nope
>>150649729
Rakugo sold well actually, and LWA will be on Netflix. It will still be big in the west.
It'll probably be enjoyable to some extent, but not a good anime.
>>150649779
The plot for that does sound funny.
>>150649808
>1.3k
>well
Even Phantom sales sold better.
>>150649779
Oh fuck I am ready for Satanya to get fucking bullied
>>150649349
God, why does every good comedy release during the winter? Is it to combat the SAD (seasonal affective disorder) in the japanese?
I'm not complaining.
>>150650049
>>150650049
They bring suicide rates down after lonely Christmas
>>150649349
It's definitely going to be a flop, but I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it.
>>150650164
>good comedy
>>150650526
>>150649477
I really hope this song is what the OP is like
>>150649657
Genrokubros assemble. AOTY for 2 consecutive years. Has this ever happened in the history of anime?
>>150650804
Hibike and Hibike 2
>>150650804
It's good but not AOTY material.
This year it was Mob and the next there is an absurd amount of worthy candidates.
>>150650872
Ah!
>>150650954
>Mob
Are you serious man? It wasn't even AoTS.
>>150649558
Both Dragon Maid and LWA will be mediocre at best.
>>150650954
>mob
>aoty material
Did we watch the same show?
>absurd amount of worthy candidates
Are we living in the same year?
>>150651088
>Judging shows from established good directors before they air
You're just a fag.
>>150649779
>(C)U/K
>>150650954
You mean this year it is FLIP FLAPPERS
>>150651026
Yes, it was all around the best series of the year.
Animation, art direction, quality of the adaption, everything was stellar, BONES knocked it out of the park this time.
>>150651163
You mean established mediocre directors?
>>150651222
Floppers is AOTY in the most overrated by /a/ that ended up being underwhelming and flopping hard category.
>>150651222
Trips confirm.
>>150651134
Do we?
>>150651222
Flip Flappers is just a slightly less insulting to the intelligence Phantom World.
>>150651266
>Yoshinari
>mediocre
>Takemoto
>anything less than stellar when working on comedy
You need to go back.
>>150651224
>Bones
Praising studios only makes sense when it's KyoAni, Trigger, Ghibli, Perriot, Toei, Sunrise, SHAFT, etc. Bones is just another sweatshop. Mob has more freelancers and outsourcing than actual in-house Bones people.
>>150649349
You know I just noticed that this show seems to have everything that is wrong with anime nowadays. Fucking amazing.
>>150651329
I think you probably watch too much bad anime, and your opinion of what constitutes good is skewed.
>>150649585
>KyoAni TV anime
No thanks.
Wow i've shown hatred towards other studios! Have i fitted in this great board yet?
>>150651329
I like Yoshinari as much as the next guy as an animator, but as a director? LWA2 was really really wonky.
>>150651332
What matters is the result.
>>150649712
>Rapping in the PV
>Implying that's something positive
>>150651502
>What matters is the result
Yet you praise Bones as if it was their doing. Mob was basically an industry wide project, just as Space Dandy.
>>150651502
Yoshinari knows how to direct fun. LWA2 was fucked over by the stretch goals.
>>150651470
Yeah I'm sure Lucky Star and LWA being the cult classics they were are really bad anime. Sure thing mang.
>>150651548
Your nitpicking would make sense if they had praised their in house staff or something similar, which I didn't. Mob is still a Bones product.
>Kyoani effortlessly makes another masterpiece while other studios struggle to even finish episodes on time
Really makes you think
>>150651663
It's still shit too, lad
Quit embarrassing yourself
>>150649349
> D-cup
>>150651663
Mob is a Warner property
It is bad if that dragon gives me a boner....D is a good size.
>>150649712
>A new Kyoani show featuring a more Nichijou-esque style than usual
Awesome.
>MC has cowtits
Aaaaand dropped.
>>150651729
It's better than anything that came out this year
>>150649349
>tfw this is already better than memesuba and lwa off the of pv alone
>>150649398
This, except Free.
>>150651841
How does anyone unironically believe this
>>150651770
>>150651816
Neck yourself, flatfags
>>150651502
>LWA2
You've watched season 2? Are you a time traveler?
>>150651711
>he calls a yuribait about dragon maids a masterpiece
>>150651935
Are you the Rakugo guy? Of what do you think was better than Mob, and why?
Is there going to be yuri?
>>150652006
I'm talking about the second OVA which had drawn out action scenes with questionable choreography, jarring cuts and poor use of music.
>>150649349
No, the manga is shit.
>>150650804
I loved season 1, became one of my all time favourites. I'm sure I'll enjoy the 2nd season but I'm not certain on it being AOTY. 2nd season isn't going to have Shin and Miyokichi, plus the things like wartime effect on rakugo, etc.
>>150650954
>>150651222
You are literal cancer.
>>150649729
>>150649808
>>150649901
Stop using saleshit/stalkershit as justification of quality of anime, you fucking cancers
>>150652488
LWA is just garbage. sales or not
>>150650164
>>150650567
Anime was shit, fucking sayashitter director skipped best chapters to force more of his shitaste on us.
>>150651770
Don't worry, blonde dragon is even bigger
>>150652093
>he treats shitpost seriously and responds with more uninspired shitposting
>>150652542
Why? Because some contrarian shitter said so? Don't make me laugh.
Why the fuck does she look russian/finnish to me?
>>150652753
Nice reddit reaction image
>>150652759
More like Norse mythology since Tooru - Thor
>>150652759
She's not even wearing a track suit or squatting so I dunno
>>150652715
>he thinks kyoanishitters can't be that delusional
>>150652788
Why don't you stay there if you think it originates from there?
>>150652817
>he treats "Really makes you think" seriously
>he treats anyone posting here seriously
>>150652833
Just because it was made here doesn't mean that you should still use it. You don't see people still using the troll or forever alone reaction images
>>150652125
Not him but it had well realized characters with actual depth, character development, plot that's not generic, themes that are intriguing, direction and writing that complement each other. If you want I can easily expand on stuff I said but you get the idea. That's not to say I didn't enjoy Mob but I don't think it had anything special. Rakugo actually offers something that we haven't seen before in anime show done well, Mob brings nothing new to the table.
>>150652343
Same. I just hope it's as good but I have lowered my expectations a bit.
>>150652815
What the fuck, man? That's just as dumb as saying "oh, he's not holding a hamburger - he's not american!". I'm talking about the face. I'm acquaintances with many russians, and her face just screams "russian!" to me for some reason.
>>150652878
>he doesn't
>it would hurt him if he does
>>150652715
>a shitpost is responded with a shitpost
And you have a problem with this where?
>>150652759
Because you are retarded.
>>150652906
What's poing comparing rarely used reaction image to one that was taken and overused by normafags?
>>150652944
Hey man relax it's just a joke
>>150652962
>>150652995
You are just butthurt because you don't have decent collection of reaction images and you only whine with greentexting
>>150653027
You're a joke.
>>150653132
Never judge a book by it's cover.
>>150653132
but muh kyoani
>>150653194
Never judge an onion by its many skins.
>>150653185
>>150652921
Rakugo was a fairly typical josei period melodrama, in both characters and execution. It was really just notable for the Rakugo scenes and the above average direction.
Superior production values aside, Mob is fairly original take on a typical coming of age story, with psychic powers used as a metaphor for adolescence and several genre subversions. I also found the character drama generally more genuine and interestong than Rakugo's.
>>150653251
The one thing I never understood with that anime was the obsession with lasagna.
Well that PV was actually funny. And the change in artstyle is nice.
Here's hoping it doesn't become another flop like Nichijou.
GodAni does it again
>>150653251
>this show that you like is actually very simplistic
>but this one I like is actually very deep
Yeah okay. I'm not even following this discussion but this is ridiculous.
>>150649349
>D-Cup
Dropped.
I'm hoping its good, I'll trust Kyoani on anything.
I mean Take god is directing it how can we not trust this man.
>>150651026
It kindof was, though. It was excellent and the season was a bit weak.
>>150653470
Is thinking that has a show has better writing than another really such a foreign, ridiculous concept to you?
>>150653132
>Dead on arrival.
What does it mean?
>>150653696
It's just funny how you're completely oversimplifying the other one while painting the one you like as the absolute most complex thing ever. You're not being objective at all.
>>150653522
Go away, faggot
>>150653799
I'm not oversimplifying it, I don't have any vendetta against Rakugo and I liked it, but it was really typical and by the numbers as far as characters and drama are concerned.
>>150653854
reminds me of galko kinda.
>>150653251
"Fairly typical period Josei drama" that uses Rakugo as an expression and metaphor for the characters psychology and intentions and uses foreshadowing and subtleties quite well while drawing out multiple parallels between characters. It's quality is is it's competent writing. Even if you make an argument that the show is very typical in everything it does, fact is it still is something fresh. Because you don't get too many Josei adaptations and certainly not the ones with periodical setting and this premise.
Mob on the other hand is a typical shonen show that's both poking fun at the tropes while also playing largely by them, starring an underdog but badass MC and all the other character archetypes shonen narrative has to offer. We've got the genuinely nice guys that'll support MC no matter what, the evil guy turned good character, the character that misunderstand the MC but comes in terms with it, the one that cons MC but has a good heart, the moral ambiguous ally etc. and these are just the supporting cast. You've got the same thing for the villains too. It's not really a point against Mob when it comes to judging show based on how well it entertain you despite offering nothing new but then again, it is offering nothing new. If the art style wasn't as dynamic or or it wasn't so well animated and didn't have big names behind it, a lot of people would really pass this up.
What maybe impressive to me might not be to you, it's just a matter of taste.
>>150652759
Big cheeks and squinty eyes.
>>150653122
>greentexting
>i have to form up a counter-argument and think of a good insult to your intellects
>reaction image
>Open folder
>Select funny faces
>Click submit
>>150653954
You are, and also glorifying the other. It's not even about the content of the shows themselves, but your completely biased preference for one. Arguing with you is impossible.
>>150654076
A lot of shows draw parallels and foreshadow things.
>>150653463
Not as impressive as Shaft.
>>150654076
See this is what I mean. You can just switch the shows around and produce the same ridiculous argument that puts one on a pedestal while showing the other as something generic and simplistic.
>>150654159
>A lot of shows
No anon, you mean shows that are well thought out when being written. This is anime we're talking about.
>>150649349
based kyoani saved anime once again!
GODANI GODANI GODANI
>>150654234
Alright, how about let's discuss the fact that the show actually did something out of the ordinary. What does MOB really offer that's truly unique or new or even not done enough in this form? What makes it really standout? The themes or the character or the plot or something else? Because aside from good execution and the premise_ it's really those things that makes the show outstanding or generic or average or whatever. What did Mob really offer?
>>150654234
Not any of the anons that posted about Rakugo and Mob before, but how would you personally argue in favor and/or against these shows? As in what were each of these series' strengths and weaknesses and where one distinguishes itself compared to the other in your opinion?
Not looking for an argument or anything, just curious.
>>150649657
Kyoani is at their best when shamelessly whoring out their girls. Maidragon looks like a recipe for success to me.
>people arguing about their own show being AOTY when yuri on ice basically just BTFO every other show today
>>150650954
>It's good but not AOTY material.
>This year it was Mob and
NOPE.
>>150654616
Yuri on Ice became a joke. It's been nothing but pandering for the past few episodes.
>>150654555
Personally I wouldn't be comparing them in the first place. They're too different, appeal to two different audiences, strive to convey different messages, were made with different ideas in mind. There's no point, in the end it'll just be about which one of these two completely different shows you like best.
>>150654076
The rakugo is expression of the characters personalities, of course, but methapors? The story is really straightforward with its themes and doesn't have major allegories.
I'd argue that the drama isn't executed especially well, both the love triangle and the tragic deaths were contrived, and the love interest was really a poor character.
As for Mob, no, the subversion is much more endemic and consistent that you make out to be, as well as his thematic take on the typical shonen structure and powers of the series.
If you think otherwise, please point out what other story (not just battle shonen) approaches the coming of age story in similiar fashion.
>>150654616
>BTFO every other show today
How?
>>150654616
If Yuri is AOTY then so was Ladies vs Butlers. Fanservice ridden shows will never be taken seriously, as it should be.
>>150654653
>flipflop
A poor man's Space Dandy.
While Phantom World is a retard man's Space Dandy.
>>150654969
>making trite comparisons to space dandy makes me sound intelligent
ITT: we try to sound like /v/tards
>>150654854
Proposal and pole-dancing.
>>150654824
I can get behind this reasoning, as I loved both for very different reasons.
>>150655051
Fanservice is not really setting the bar high, fuck off to tumblr, fujoshit
>>150654616
YoI became a joke so fast, it's not even funny.
How many horrible animated sequences, throwaway characters with shitty backstories and Yuri & Victor just being gay without any sort of interesting development will it take to tank this shit?
>>150655051
Did they have on screen buttsex yet? If not then it's no AOTY material.
>>150654653
Four episodes to go for the magic to happen. I believe.
>>150655026
Nah, I think it's an appropriate comparison.
>>150655169
That's because you're retarded.
>>150654853
>subversion
I'd answer about Rakugo in a bit but seriously a "subversion" about the tropes of shonen is nothing that's impressive. A lot of anime have tried it. Seriously what's subversive about Mob and how does that set it apart from other shows with similar nature? This is same kind of argument as "Madoka is deconstruction of Magical Girl" or "Ping Pong is subversion of sports anime". It gives the audience false feeling of superiority when they watch genre shows.
>>150655212
Not as much as someone unironically calling FF AOTY, at least.
>>150655266
>Ping Pong is subversion of sports anime
Who ever said that?
>>150655350
I've heard a lot of "Ping Pong is not (just) a sports anime" but never seen the term "subversion" associated with it.
>>150655350
>>150655561
Haven't seen subversion term itself thrown around but people describe it as if it's like no other sports anime and doesn't fall into the usual tropes. Second statement is quite false considering it has a very basic story with characters you'd find in these kind of shows. It's just really well written and equally well directed.
>>150655110
It if was 2 gays girls, you wouldn't be saying this.
>>150655855
I would be saying the same if we got shit like this
>>150655888
How can people like this.
I don't understand.
>>150649349
>>150655921
What you don't like low effort pandering shows?
>>150655855
Fanservice is a just a bonus on top of everything else. If a show itself is bad, then that's undeniably a separate issue.
>mfw this but with KyoAni at the helm
>>150655921
It's just bunch of fujoshits circlejerking, their threads even reach sometimes 1000 posts but IP counter barely breaks 100.
>>150656234
I'm hoping for Ojojojo adaptation
ITT: Stop liking shows I hate.
>>150655921
If you mean YoI, It think the characters are funny and lewd at the same time. I dropped it after episode 3 because of the shitty sport tourney plot though. At least the fanbase on the threads aren't as terrible as within the other social media, which thankfully I don't really fancy meeting myself (only stumbled them on youtube comment section of the OP video).
>>150649657
Good taste mate. Wish all of /a/ would grow out of this otaku phase.
>>150659806
*tips fedora
>>150649729
Are you using sales to prove a point? Whats wrong with you?
>>150660153
>Maid Dragon doesn't stand a chance
>It will bomb too
I'm just following his argument
>>150653251
Now, now no need to shit on either Mob or Rakugo. I am a Mob fanboy but Rakugo is just as valid to be AOTY.
>>150659931
*tips snapback
>>150659806
>Konosuba
>not otakushit
>>150659806
Literally all otaku trash
>>150660737
I let that one slide cause he named dragons dentist.
>>150660764
No, every other show coming out this season is otaku trash, these shows that got named except for konsuba are the only shows I would even consider watchable. I am not even saying they are good yet.
>>150660806
Also otakushit
>>150662693
No that one definitely not. It may be trash but it aint no otaku shit not enough fanservice or moe for that to be true.