Dragon Ball Super

Toyotaro is literally /our guy/

>>150632295
>As if Boo and Botamo really fought

>>150632295
Daily reminder that all of Future Trunks timeline is dead.

>>150632535
even worse, their souls in the afterlife deleted forever.

>>150632295
saitama>goku
proof me wrong

>>150632669
You're a faggot so your opinions are immediately shit.

>>150632669
nobody can do that, you cheat!

>>150632669
Why are OPMfags so butthurt that Goku is stronger than Saitama? Always coming into DBS threads to shitpost.

>>150632669
go to bed Pedro, it's past your bed time.

>>150632715
Actually no matter people see it it's the reverse. OPM no matter how many different view to see it it's impossible for any DBS character to even scratch any damage to saitama. DBS character cannot even won against 1 mentally challenged children called arale. lmao

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tfw dbfags are butthurt cause memeku will never be manly as saitama
>tfw no one in dbverse can beat the one punch
fells bretty gud

>>150632813
Sorry anon but Arale>Goku>>>>>>>>>>>Saitama

>>150632910
lol arale just weak as fuck one punch from saitama will leave arale as iron dust without no trace left because it's swept by the wind.

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>>150632910
>tfw memekufag actually thinks this
sad.

>>150633024
Holy fuck this is gold.

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>>150633113

It's official, OPM fags are worse than Toeishills.

>>150632337
BASED
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>Generals
All DBfags should be gassed.

>>150634846
>what is a containment thread
even with a general, there's literally 3 dragon ball threads up at a time, with 2 more disguised as some sort of broad meme posting with subtle dragon ball references.

>>150632872
Monaka you dumbshit

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>>150633147
top kek

>>150635050
/thread

>>150632953
>Saitama needs a serious punch to stop a planet buster
>Arale casual punch destroys the earth like nothing

Cute

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>>150632295
Place your bets on what promise you think they're referring to.

>>150635432
Promise of protecting the future.

>>150635476
yes I believe so, especially with the caption " Huh?! Trunks is wearing the same outfit his mentor Gohan once wore?!" referring to Gohan as the person he promised to.

>>150635515
Trunks might end up saving the future, but what interests me the most is how it won't be how we expected.

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>>150635571
typical Toriyama trolling, but now he's trolling us in between mediums now.

>>150632872
Zen can will him out of existence. Pretty much any universe with an equivalent god figure can beat him like that, without actually fighting him.

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>gag episode bringing out all the salty saitamafags
>being this salty that both beerus and arale >>> saitama

Top kek these assblasted faggots.

>>150635606
how can it be a gag episode when arale is canon dragonball character, you dumbass.

>>150635728
Gag ≠ filler

You fucking retard

>>150635771
Are you an idiot or something because you're completely missing the point.

>>150632295
I'm waiting for Jump Festa as if I'm waiting for Christmas.
Hold me Toriyama sensei.

>>150632295
>in b4 the last arc to Super is the fucking Xicor shit involving all the bullcrap in AF
>in b4 it triggers all the mexican'ts begging for GT back.

>>150632295
vegeta will have green hair and goku white hair by the end of the series as their strongest forms

>>150636796
Xicor is Black and West Kai is literally Zamasu.

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>>150632295
What did they mean by this?

>>150636909
we're stuck in filler til Jump Festa (dec17) where Toriyama will reveal the next canon arc.

>>150637428
Oh shit, I'm sorry!

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gag>dragonball

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>>150637514
bugs bunny would murder goku to the point of no recognition.
why are dragonball characters such jobbers?

That moment when you realize DB Super is about Goku meeting his limitations and dealing with losing.

>Four sagas so far

>He's only beaten the villain in one of them

>He lost to Beerus and had to convince him not to nuke Earth
>He couldn't beat Hit and it ended in a "we'll fight again someday" agreement
>He couldn't beat Zamasu so Trunks and Zen-Oh had to do it for him

Will Goku get to win a fight in the next arc? Also, will Vegeta finally get to do something besides get his ass kicked?

>>150635571
I can already see the incoming anime vs manga shitstorm if Trunks ends up saving the future in the manga.

>>150632600
Nope. Stop trying to make it more edgy than it was

>>150637676
>Trunks ends up saving the future in the manga.
yeah could see this happening but with a twist knowing toriyama

>>150637666

God I hope not. Fuck Goku. We need make Gohan great again.

Also general question why has Vegeta never used the Dragonballs to revive his people and planet?

>>150637666
when was the last time goku dominated a fight?
bitch has been losing since the android saga.faggots are blinded by the toei movies/gt and kept giving goku way to much praise because unlike vegeta who always gets destroyed goku manages to put a decent performance before losing. Truth is goku was never that big of a guy.

>>150637730
Vegeta told Dodoria back in the Namek Saga that he didn't give a shit about his people or planet. He was more pissed that as a Prince he was used as a slave.

Vegeta doesn't care about the Saiyans, only his status/title among them.

>>150637697
>Nope
that's exactly what zeno did he nope'ed the whole time line away too pure nothingness.

>>150637783
No he didn't. Prove it. Nothing at all mentions Zeno messing with the afterlife.

>>150632813
Arale didn't win either, so your point is moot.

>>150637774
That's kinda sad also pointless.

>>150637806
the afterlife doesn't even exist for that timeline.

>>150637831
Still waiting for that proof

>>150637774
Vegeta has actually dominated more people than Goku has since the Android Saga.

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>>150637806
this the depiction of the dragonball universe.
this got destroyed. so yes zeno did destroy the after life

>>150637774
except super proved otherwise, he doesnt doit it for the same reason he doesnt make himself immortal behind everyones back somethings just need to be left as is

>>150637853
the whole universe doesn't exist, and we know that the sacred world of the Kais or the underworld are locations within the universe.

>>150637856
Oops meant to quote >>150637767

>>150637867
That's not proof. You showed a map. Nothing about saying Zeno attacked anything above the universe

>>150637887
More headcanon. They're also in their own heavenly realm separate from the living. Nothing said Zeno attacked the dead. Wasn't even remotely hinted.

>>150637867
>Snake way is like half the width of the universe

What the fuck how fucking small is this place

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>>150637924
>Nothing about saying Zeno attacked anything above the universe
watch the episode zeno destroys "sekai" world and what i showed you was the depiction of the dbWorld>>150637867

>>150637924
future bulma and future gohan are fucking gone deal with it faggot

>What’s your process working with Toriyama-sensei?!

I draw a rough draft based on Toriyama-sensei‘s original story, then I send it to my editor, who gets sensei to check it. It’s an honor to be able to give concrete form to sensei‘s ideas, but sometimes sensei will send over a part he drew himself, which sends me into an uproar, going back and forth between being all hyped up and feeling really down in the dumps.

[Caption] In Toyotarō-sensei‘s rough draft, at this stage the planet was smaller, and there was no dialogue.

[Caption] Toriyama-sensei does corrections, making the planet larger and adding dialogue. Toyotarō-sensei then makes the final image based on these corrections

People STILL deny that Toriyama is more involved with the manga than the anime?

>>150638101
I've said that for weeks and weeks now man, people will just ignore it.

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>>150637867
anime version just in case some faggot says its guide book/manga only

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>>150638101
they're mostly just trolls that love the (You)s

>>150638212
That interview proves nothing. For all we know, Toriyama is even more involved with the anime production

>>150635432
Wasn't it Gokus promise to Zeno that he would find him a friend?

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>>150638253
>Toriyama is even more involved with the anime production
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/
I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.
Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.

Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

also see this:
>>150635585

>>150637932
>Snake Way
1,000,000 km/621,371.192 mi
>Earth
510.1 million km²/196.9507mi²

Just think about that for a second, especially Snake Way's size while also being winding, and still taking up half the size of the Cosmos.

>>150638253
Please tell me you're trolling not at all retarded.

>>150638278
Cell's claim that he could blow away a solar system becomes a lot less impressive when you realize their entire universe is smaller than our solar system.

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>>150637550
goku would be lucky if he can survive 10 seconds with bobobobo

>>150635585
This doesn't say he uses AT's original story word for word, just that he and the anime team interpret it differently. Sorry manga fags, still isn't canon

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>>150638278
>>150638385
I like to think of the Underworld as some sort of holographic imagery and it doesn't actually represent the full perimeter of the actual Universe.
I like to just think of each Universe as a Super network of galaxies that make up what looks like a Discus/Spiral Galaxy made of Galaxies.

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>>150638421
>Sorry manga fags, still isn't canon
manga has always and will continue to be more canon than the tv adaptation. This is how mangakas work.

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>>150638475
nice headcanon there buddy but you can't go against the canon lore

Animefags BTFO

Toyotaro just draws what he's told and nothing more. He doesn't even add much to the plot, he just draws AT's script and AT himself corrects anything he got wrong. Which means

SSG vs Hit = Canon
Kaioken vs Hit = non canon

But just like Z, more people will see the anime and thus bring up all the illogical bullshit, when the true story of Super is actually very tight and doesn't have as many leaps of logic

>>150638564
I'm not trying to go against it, i just imagine that sphere as some sort of Hologram.

>>150638385
Their entire universe is way smaller than the Solar System.

>Solar System
4,545,000,000 billion km (radius)/2,824,132,058 mi

Their Universe is 4.5k times smaller than our solar system.

>[Caption] Huh?! Trunks is wearing the same outfit his mentor Gohan once wore?!

What does he mean by this? Is there a picture of Trunks wearing Future Gohan's fighting gi?

>>150638633
No. It's meant to say that Trunks wore the same Kaioshin attire that Gohan once wore.

>>150638385
Their shit is tiny man. Hell the Earth to the Venus is bigger than their universe.

>>150638663
That caption sucks then, his mentor never wore those. Present Gohan ain't his mentor

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was it autism?

>>150638633
see
>>150635432

>>150638681
But it's still Gohan, so I guess to them that's all that matters. Even though his Gohan and the present one are two different people, Trunks respected them both equally.

>>150638681
Japan assumes they're all the same character despite that. Just look at how they always have Bulma say "Future Me" and act like they're the same person (in both anime and manga).

>>150638601
>Their entire universe is way smaller than the Solar System.
that's why I just use the term "hologram" to bypass their small scale Underworld depiction.

>>150638686
How can people force themselves to watch this shit fest of an animation is beyond me

>>150638756
>Still picture
>Animation

>>150638803
The over all animation is shit though. Shida Naotoshi's bits are the only bits that deserve praise.

>>150638865
they just need to reference the storyboards of the manga and adapt that for television. Hopefully the new restructuring taking place with the manga going to be ahead of the anime means that the quality of the anime increases.

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>>150638803
k

>>150632295
both noncanon

>>150637867
first of all for the morons who keep saying snake way is half as big as the universe derp.
Use your fucking brain for a second the upper layer is the cosmos. (realm of gods,heaven and hell) Look how big Enma palace and King kai planet are depicted and then look how you can't even recognize the size of the planets in the universe. The upper layer has obviously a bigger scale then the bottom one.

>>150638969
Protip : this won't be what you see on Toonami when it airs, dumb nigger

>>150632669
Arale>Saitama

>>150639020
don't mind all the idiots thinking that snake way is half the size of the universe. they all missinformed cucks from death battle. Of course the fucking upper part is up scaled.

>>150632756
>>150632669
>>150632872
>>150632910
>>150639107
shut up niggers, spics, chinks, honkies and camel jockeys. kys famtosis ningen reeeee

>>150635432
>>150638633

GOHAN ARC MY NIGGERS

>>150638633
It means Trunks is literally the new Gohan.

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>>150639203
>image makes a small reference to the clothes Gohan used during the ritual in the Buu saga
>OH FUCK HE IS BACK GUYS
Every damn time.

So..fucking baseball? Is this an all time low?

>>150639284
Not him but i can't help but feel like Gohan is heavily related to the situation.

I don't think it's a Gohan Arc or anything super significant like that but i do feel like there's going to be a correlation here. Maybe he'll go to the future with Trunks this time and that's the HUGE difference.

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I dont see any Hi in this thread.

Chi chi where are you hunny?

>>150639040
Bitch please.
The "blu-ray will fix it" bullshit is just that, bullshit.
It will look not one bit better. Knowing toei, it might even be worse.

>>150639465
The BDs already came out, dumbass

>>150639465
the bluray so far have only fixed two episodes episode 5 and episode 26. Thats fucking it. The disgusting ki blast struggle against goku in ep 24 is still there in the blu rays

>>150639545
there's more but they're not that noticeable of an upgrade.

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hi

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hi!

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>>150638686
yes

>>150638803
because there are episodes where the animation is good, gif related

>>150639709
>gif

>>150639579
>>150639661
hey anon hi hello how are you!

>>150639579
hi

>>150639661
hi

WTF is this hi meme and how did it start?

This is a thread on reddit :
>Unpopular opinion. Trunk in DBS got a horrible ending
Are we the only ones who dont suck toryiama's dick like its made out of gold?

>>150639809
you mean Toei's dick?
see here:
>>150635585

>>150639809
r/dbz is awful. They shit on DB to justify why Super is awesome and has no flaws whatsoever. They constantly shit on the manga even when you show them it's closer to AT's script

>>150639870
oh thank god i don't use reddit.

>>150639870
This
r/dbz are even worse then the tumblr fanbase.
the tumblrfags at least know the animation is total trash and the story mediocre. Say one bad thing about super on reddit and they hunt you down. next time you post you already downvoted.

So what's the next story arc? Will DBS finally go the way of Doraemon?

>>150639870
Oh, so that's where all the Toei fags come from. Not surprising.

>>150639802
zero clue, just fit in newfag cos thats how u become oldfag lolz top zozzle

>>150635571
The "promise" is after the arc, so it's not referencing that. Considering how we haven't even seen anyone alive in the future in the manga, it getting destroyed seems very likely.

>>150639870
not fucking true man. Here is a reddit thread about the manga made yesterday
>What is your opinion on Toyotaro? (Artist of Super Manga)

top upvoted responses:
>In my opinion Super is a lot better in his version, the style he uses is very close to Toriyama and thats why I like it. I think people are really overreacting about the tracing thing, I rather have a traced Goku than this

>I've been having a discussion about this. Yeah, I think he is great, a perfect successor for Toriyama. He clearly knows, respects and loves his sensei's work.He already has very good skills, but looks like he is still learning from Toriyama.

>So can we finally conclude that the anime isn't "more canon" than the manga

>>150640138
Post this opinion in any other thread, you'll be downvoted by some dude showing up saying "it's just an adaptation and not canon" "lol ssg was dumb, hit fight was dumb, manga is bad"

>>150640138
i mean it's common sense that the manga is better but it's good to see they agree.

>>150640172
well they sure changed their tune once it was revealed how close toryiama works with toyotaro.
this thread was made after the interview got released. I know before a lot of people were nagging on the manga being traced,rushed,ssbluekaioken being better etc. but once the interview came out they all changed their tune and became mangafags

>>150640235
Lmao want to rub it in to the fuckers but I know it'll just be mass downvoted and get responded to by people saying they always loved the manga

Do they have a thread for the interview on reddit?

>>150640235
sounds pretty similar to us, we had a ton of Toeitrolls after the Hit vs Goku fight.

>>150640274
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/5gcnth/dbs_volume_2_toyotar%C5%8D_explains_his_working/

3days old though

>>150640235
>>150640274
what do you expect its the hivemind, got to protect that virtual reputation points by never posting dissenting opinion

>>150640062
Yeah, I think his timeline will get erased in the manga too, but it won't be as bad as it was in the anime since pretty much everyone is already dead anyway.

>>150640355
I don't think we're getting shining finger sword in the manga.

>>150640315
lol some of this comment sounds exactly like /a/

>Hope Toyotaro fixes that ending

>If anything the manga is "more canon" as Toriyama seems to give much more input and contributes to the editing.

>>150640138
some of those scrubs are getting slowly redpilled and realise that the manga is indeed superior but most of the toeishills come from reddit

>>150640412
sounds like a logical human being.

>>150640412
They literally have no choice but to admit it now since the interview matter of factly says the manga is the original story. Meanwhile previous interviews have AT completely clueless about how the anime handles things.

>>150640138
Much like 4chan or any community really, there are a few diamonds in the rough. Doesn't make the collective majority not a bunch of dumbass shitposters though.

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Why is being Gotenks suffering?
>only relevant when gotenks is needed
>trunks has more relevancy

>>150640666
Goten is pretty much Trunks' power up.

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>you will never call your future self Oniichan while playing videogames together in a comfy timeline
why even live?

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>>150640666
goten is a fucking joke

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>We will never get a true OVA of Trunks' Babidi Flashback
This disturbs me.

Universe 6's Earth Arc when?

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>>150640845
>>150641015
I'd like to see this entire arc remade based on the manga.

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>>150641211
Instead of a Dragon Ball Super Kai, I'd love to see a full on Manga adaptation.

>>150635432
What if it's Vegetas promise to take Trunks to the park? We saw that in the anime but not the manga.

>>150641258
I've heard rumors that they're supposed to start following Toriyama's vision and the manga storyboards more closely after the Zamasu Saga.

So who knows, maybe Toei will or maybe they won't. Guess we'll have to wait and see what the next Saga is at Jump Festa or so.

>>150641297
>I've heard rumors that they're supposed to start following Toriyama's vision and the manga storyboards more closely after the Zamasu Saga.
This rumor pretty much stems from Toyotaro at NY Comic Con stating
"At this point, I'm not very involved with it. I think going forward, I'll be more involved, but at this point in time, I actually receive more information from the anime team than I give to them. The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them."

>>150637666
Goku also lost to Raditz (By himself), Vegeta, Android 19, Cell, and would have lost to Kid Buu by himself.

Goku was never that above his opponent where he kicks the shit out of them so no.

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>>150632295

THICC

>>150640666
He only exists because Toriyama's editor wanted a new kid Goku.

>>150641503
To be fair with 19, he had Heart AIDs, otherwise he'd have killed 19 and 20.

Hell the only person he was ever really that above was Trunks when he first showed up, and technically Majin Vegeta had he went SSJ3 and Fat Buu (which he neglected to not even kill as a SSJ3).

>>150641503
>>150641627
Goku fought Vegeta twice and lost both times.

>>150641669
He did, but he certainly had the power to beat Vegeta the second time with relative ease had he wanted and had more time to spend on Earth.

>>150641503
When you put it that way, why IS Goku treated like some demigod when he was only really that superhero against Frieza?

>>150641783
Because Frieza is arguably the most memorable fight in the series and the one that a lot of people base their opinion of Goku on.

>>150641783

Because Frieza was the only good part of dragonball z.

>>150641627
I'm not convinced that Goku could have killed Fat Buu, or any Buu on his own. Goku said he could have but Goku also has a big ego. It took a spirit bomb to completely get rid of Buu, not even Vegeta nuking half the countryside was enough to kill Fat Buu. Goku couldn't maintain SSJ3 back then for too long so I can easily see Fat Buu just simply outlasting Goku's SSJ3 then kicking the shit out of him.

>>150641975
This and Buu was getting stronger as the fight progressed when he first fought Fat Buu that still had the evil side inside of Buu.

>>150641975
Well Goku also did say that Perfect Cell was stronger than him and that even he probably couldn't actually kill Cell.

His ego isn't that crazy.

I imagine with Fat Buu Goku probably could have killed him because Fat Buu liked to play around. Goku's issue was he was also playing around and didn't want to actually try to kill him and wanted to leave it in Goten/Trunks' hands because he was going to go back to the Otherworld soon anyways.

>>150639516
And does it look fucking better?

>>150639545
LOLOL
I knew it.

>>150642327
Part of Super's problem is that everything is too vibrant and has too much sheen.

Found this yesterday, its not perfect by any damn means, but it shows you just how much better the old 80/90s washed out colors and animation is in comparison.

https://youtu.be/fJ5Zt-mNXFU

>>150643415
idk if it's the "contrast" or not but there's still something a little too bright about this that still bothers me.
It is definitely much better than the cartoony color we usually get and it definitely gets my nostalgia hype going for sure.
I think some anon that linked webms here (not sure if same guy) but he got the hues perfectly.

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>>150643415

Oh man, that classic music and sfx makes it so good.

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>>150639284
EVERY
TIME

>>150643415
>turn down saturation
>slap on a noise filter

No thanks this looks like shit.

>>150641783
>Goku saves the day against Piccolo
>Goku effortlessly beats Nappa after everyone got their shit pushed in
>Goku effortlessly defeats the ginyu force after everyone got their shit pushed in
>Goku swooped in to fight fourth form Frieza when everyone got their shit pushed in then he went super saiyan and won
>Goku fought and nearly beat Perfect Cell with the instant transmission kamehameha
>Goku beat Pikkon (non-canon)
>Goku went super saiyan 3
>Goku fought Kid Buu while Vegeta got his shit pushed in
You don't need to look at the movies or GT/Super to see the reason Goku became known as the ace in the hole against all threats.

>>150637924
You're a fucking retard, now shut up and stop trying to refute things just because you want to argue. You goddamn fountain of idiocy.

Hi

please no arguing anymore Hi

>>150641975
Maintaining SS3 was way easier for Goku when he fought Fat Buu because he was dead. He might have run out of time in the living world before the fight finished but I doubt Buu would have been able to take him out. If it happened after he came back to life, then probably, since the energy drain on SS3 is fucking massive to the point of making the form nearly useless.

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>>150645172
Hi you bitch

>>150641783
>why IS Goku treated like some demigod when he was only really that superhero against Frieza?
-Freeza's the most popular arc
-The movies

>>150639354
What makes you think he will go to the future?

>>150645577
Nothing, there's nothing to indicate that. It's just desperate Gohanfags being desperate Gohanfags, nothing unusual here.

>>150645353
thats a good pic. Hi

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>>150645353
>best smug asshole this year
>went undefeated throughout his entire life
>nobody could make a loss stick
>merging was a mistake demanded by shit tea brewer Zamasu
>merge still had Ubergod status basically thanks to him
>ultimately succeeded in plan to rid universe of all mortals

Will Super ever have a better villain?

>>150645634
Yeah, I figured as much. It's funny how he is so sure Gohan will do something when we haven't even seen his face in the manga in a long ass time now.

>>150641593
Fuck off Vados

>>150641360
>The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead,

How? There's no way Toyo is going to catch up.

>>150646536
>How?

OUR GUY
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G
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>>150645897
Whis

>>150637924
Stupid fuck.

Hit will be in a baseball uniform i eat a entire belt

>>150637514
I'm convinced the Planet Trade Organization didn't label Earth is low priority because of lack of resources or interest or anything like that but just because they had a previous run-in with a gag there and knew they never had a shot.

>>150646536
have you read the manga lately? it gained double its usual pages and based on its current pacing, it might actually reach the anime by as early as March next year.

>December Issue
covers Black and the Introduction of Zamasu
>January Issue
covers the battle vs Merged Zamasu
>February Issue
defeat of giygas Zamasu
>March Issue
new arc

assuming that they remove the back-and-forth retreats and the mafuba segments.

>>150648769
>December Issue
black ssrose and introduction of future zamasu +beerus killing current zamasu
>January Issue
battle vs merged zamasu+ defeat
>February Issue
new arc

>>150648929
this also seems plausible but I'm not sure, it might feel like rushed and the griefers might go full ooga booga again.

>>150649061
toei can't spend 4 month's on filler only thats way too much. Not even dbz had that. i was even being generous 3 month of waiting until toyotaro gets to the new arc is still a lot,

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>>150637550

I'm okay with this.

>>150637666

Hell, even against Frieza, Vegeta had to step in and Whis had to rewind time.

>>150649204
toei only allocated 1 full month for its fillers and we're going to get the new arc after hit's assassination filler a week from now.

nevertheless, I'm not going to complain if the manga overtakes the anime earlier as expected as long as it doesn't look like it has rushed itself through the saga just to get over it.

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reminder to refer Trunks' new Super Saiyan form as "Super Trunks"

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Future_Trunks#cite_note-14

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>>150651958
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Trunks

>>150651958
>super trunks
more leik Sueper Sturankusue, amirite?

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>>150652002
>pic related
jesus christ

im really glad he fucked off forever

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>>150639579
>>150639661
hi chi-chi

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>>150646507

THICCER

>>150641503
Just because he always took a loss here and there doesn't mean he was always as pathetic as he is in Super.
Eating a few L's for the sake of story, but mostly pulling the clutch when it counts isn't the same as pulling one clutch because Whis pulled a double-clutch four sagas in.

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Adult Swim got Dragon Ball Super. Premieres Jan. 7 on Toonami.

https://youtu.be/OqIzjLPL7Sg

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>>150653966

https://youtu.be/jCwuMG-ngsI

>>150653966
Gay af, It's going to take them until September to get to universe 6. They should have skipped BoG/RoF

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DBZ Kai: Final Chapters ALSO premiering Jan 7 on Toonami

>>150644770
"I have no proof so I have to stick to name calling"

Still no proof.

>>150654483
Forgot source:

http://www.funimation.com/blog/2016/12/06/dragon-ball-z-kai-the-final-chapters-heading-to-toonami/

>>150654483
Wait they're airing Buu Saga Kai AND Super?

What the fuck, why? What the hell is Super gonna replace? JoJo is still going to be airing, HxH still has over 100 weeks, Gundam IBO is about to over soon, Naruto and One Piece are neverending.

Unless it replaces IBO or they get rid of the endslot where they replay the old show that ended already

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>>150654662
>Wait they're airing Buu Saga Kai AND Super?
Yup

Toonami is going to air DBS 11:30 PM and Buu Saga Kai at Midnight starting Jan 7

>>150654794
>A full hour of Dragonball
I guess they want to keep those people who watch DB and fuck off after it's over. I just hope they keep the routine and have a good show come on after DB.

They still have to get a show to replace IBO.

I'm still wondering what spot Samurai Jack and or FLCL 2 is gonna take. I guess DBZ would be over by then.

Why does Super have two slots (8pm and 11:30pm)

Cut/Uncut or are they airing two episodes a week (please be this so we can get past the BoG shit quicker)?

>>150654930
your tv's broadcasting chinese cartoons at midnight? what the fuck?

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> Who do you prefer: Bulma or Chi-Chi?
>Toriyama:
>To be honest, I’m really not fond of Chi-Chi as a character. (laughs) In the middle of the comic, I started to think, “I don’t want to draw her anymore,” and, sort of as a way of spiting myself, I decided, “you’ll have to draw her if she gets married to Goku, so marry them off!” So, I drew her as a kind of punishment. (laughs)


What the fuck is Toriyama problem?

>>150655619
>Why does Super have two slots (8pm and 11:30pm)

Doesn't Toonami start AFTER 8 pm?

I'm thinking it's an editted one (like the weekday Toonami ones were), and an uncut one

I doubt Funimation will skip over the retelling arcs, seeing as there are a fair amount of people that surprisingly enjoyed them.

>>150655717
They aren't, all the clips they've posted have been of BoG

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Aside from all of the Black arc, this is the only scene I'm interested to hear in English. Hearing Sean's screams again will sure bring back some nostalgia.

>>150655689
>What the fuck is Toriyama problem?
He's not a good writer. Simple as that.

>>150655851
This was voiced by an old Japanese woman and ret/a/rds loved it because "it's the original".

>>150655689
he's autistic

only somebody with his level of autism can put together all of the shit he's come up with over the years for Dragon Ball and still somehow make it work

>>150655851
>kahyowkeyn times teeeeeeeeeen
>faints

>>150655851
Does anyone know the animator for this certain scene?

>>150655851
Yeah, his Kaioken scenes were his best imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1o5krVrVf8&t=42s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsKBAF6y95o&t=170s

>>150656162
"me and my friends?"

I realize that characterizations are a flimsy thing, but that doesn't fit with how I see saiyans or goku

even at that moment, when he's really mad, he would just get quiet, and stern, not become a moralfag

>>150656254
Funi dub portrays Goku as Superman who's all about "muh righteousness" and "muh friends". It's why when people who never watched the original watch Super and get mad that Toriyama's Goku is different from the one they grew up with.

>watch super dub @ 8
>watch new super @ 9
>watch kai boo @ 12

Saturdays will be awesome

>>150656432
In both cases, he's a retard.

>>150656597
new Super airs before doesn't it?

BRA WHEN?

>>150656432
>Funi dub portrays Goku as Superman who's all about "muh righteousness" and "muh friends

Not since they dubbed DBZ Kai.

Ever since then Funimation has been more accurate in terms of writing and characterization.

>>150656597
It looks like it'll just be a re-run. Not two new DBS episodes.

Adult Swim/Toonami isn't airing at 8 pm, so they can't show a DBS episode unless it's editted on Cartoon Network.

>>150656751
I can't bring myself to watch Kai dubbed after they ruined Gohan and Bulma's voice

>>150656809
I meant the episodes fresh from Japan
After watching the dub one can jump and watch the latest episode

>>150655981
Toriyama is great because he doesn't give a fuck. See >>150610512

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>>150655689
>I don't like drawing Chi-Chi
>I don't even LIKE Chi-Chi
>I have been setting Bulma up as Goku's primary romantic interest since the budding beginnings of DragonBall
>I know
>just to fuck with myself
>I'll make Chi-Chi marry Goku instead, despite the history and relationship between him and Bulma, who the general fan-base considering more suitable
>and they'll get married purely because Goku's a retard who doesn't even grasp the concept of marriage, and she asked first
>Yeah! Fuck you, me!

What did he mean by this?

>>150656254
Did you miss the Namek saga? Goku was a moral fag up until he went SSJ

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>>150656809
Toonami airs Saturday from Midnight to 3:30a on Toonami as of now.

But interestingly, the official DBS site says the 8 pm showing is still Toonami...so both episodes will still be uncut.

Maybe they're pushing Toonami to air earlier because they're banking on DBS's success?

Pic related

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>>150656949
Ohhh, that's right

Neat!

>>150657006
Nope. He thought Goku x Bulma was shit and didn't want it to happen. His editor shipped them, so Toriyama decided to make Goku marry Chi-chi to spite him.

>>150657278
time for bra x goten to happen then.

>>150657380
Too obvious. It has to be something weird, like Goten x Ran Fan or some shit.

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>>150653174

hi son-kun

>>150657874
Can they ever do a DBZ live movie justice?

Bra x Tien when?

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HAHAHAHAHAAA

>>150658148
fuck off ningen

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You ningen haven't forgot about me, have you?

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>>150658213
Ofcourse not, I think about you everyday.

>>150658213
I'm sorry, who are you again?

>>150658013
>not Bra x Yamcha

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its going to be a gohan arc next!

>>150654499
You've been provided proof repeatedly and you just turned your nose up or straight-up ignored it. You're just being obtuse now for the sake of pissing people off you fucking retard.

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Could anyone beat him?

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>>150658213
I naturally come to this thread to talk about Zamasu, then I have to roll back my chair, turn off my screen and think about life.
Zamasu. I miss you.

>>150658617
>that mullet

>>150656814
I can't bring myself to watch Kai since the OST is bland as fuck outside a few tracks.

>>150654662
>Gundam IBO is about to over soon
thank fuck

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This is the worst Dragon Ball movie and saga. Nothing about it makes sense.

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>>150659005
>This is the worst Dragon Ball movie
No.

> This is the worst Dragon Ball saga
Yes. Well if you count GT, I'd argue Super 17 is worse

>>150653966
>allah'pra allah'pra alle
why did this make Beerus Islamic?

>>150659005
I can't stand seeing Frieza grovel to Beerus. I can't stand seeing Shenlong grovel to Beerus. I don't know, it just really makes me sad.

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>>150658617
Would Bulma be turned-on?

>>150659005
>worst Dragon Ball movie
You have the worst taste I've ever seen, holy fuck.

>>150659174
>Implying Yamcha isn't "keeping Bulma company" while Vegeta is a way
Who do you think taught Trunks the Wolf Fang Fist?

>>150659126
It might be lame, especially if you're a Friezafag, but it does make sense considering Beerus would eat him alive with zero effort.

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>>150659126
> Beerus is so threatening, that even the characters you thought were threatening cower before Beerus

It's hard to take Beerus seriously, when he's so goofy

>>150659310
Name one movie worse than ROF.

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>>150659005
Shit taste confirmed

>>150640138
>In my opinion Super is a lot better in his version, the style he uses is very close to Toriyama and thats why I like it. I think people are really overreacting about the tracing thing, I rather have a traced Goku than this
Doesnt surprise me this is an opinion from a ledditor

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>>150659391
Not that anon but:

- Lord Slug
- Bojack
- Broly 2
- Broly 3
- Hirudagarn
- Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans
- Goku Jr

>>150659354
>>150659362
I know that, it's just sad. I know Shenlong isn't really all that strong anyway, but he was still really magical and seeing him sweating and stuttering over Beerus just takes a lot away from him for me.

>>150659567
All of those movies barring the last two are better than Resurrection of F. Bojack is pure Dragonkino.

>>150655689
He is a ruse master, thats why his work its popular worldwide.

>>150657180
The air DBZ Kai early on with Adult Swimg and at the start of Toonami right now. No idea why though.

>>150659633
>Broly 2 & 3
>Better than RoF
>Thinking that the shitty Bojack movie its better than RoF
Holy fuck, kill yourself

>>150632669
I agree. But that doesn't really matter.

>>150658213
No. You live in our hearts.

>>150659633
noone liked Bio-Broly, fuck off.

>>150640666
He's a champio-

>>150659974
RoF is pure putrid.
>Freeza stronger than Gods after 4 months training (one of the stupidest plot points in the entire shit)
>New blue form for no reason
>Roshi and Tien brought to fight when Andriod 18, Buu, and Gotenks exist
>SSJB Goku hurt by a laser
>Whis can just reverse time eliminating tension from future sagas
>Hype up Vegeta's revenge to have Goku save the day anticlimactically

Broly 2 had the Family Kamehameha and Broly 3 had a unique cast of characters that made sense for teh story. Bojack had that balla Tien vs. Trunks fight. Resurrection added nothing good. Worst Dragon Ball story.

>>150657006
>>150655689
Because Sun Wukong marries the Ox King's Daughter, not the Monk. Chi-chi was basically made to marry Goku.

>>150659005
>Worst Movie
no
>Worst Saga
Say what you will. Black Saga was a goddamn mess and I'm glad it's over.When the best thing about the main villain is all the memes he generated you know you fucked up.

>>150660261
>Broly 2 had the Family Kamehameha
A imitation of an iconic scene? That's so lazy
> Broly 3 had a unique cast of characters that made sense for teh story
Felt like filler potential, even Garlick jr filler had better plot than Broly 3, not to mention
>using the same shitty villain for third time
No wonder Yamamuro was buttblasted when Beerus was the new powerful character of DB
>Bojack had that balla Tien vs. Trunks fight.
Thats the only scene worth of that movie, everything else its shit. RoF gave us Roshi fighting which was better

>>150655619
Adult Swim starts at 8 now.

>>150660261
>Freeza is stronger than the Gods after 4 months of training
That's not even the quickest turnaround.Goku's managed to go from not being able to lay a finger on an opponent to totally dominating them after DAYS of training. Training is bullshit in dragonball.
>New Blue form for no reason
It's just a way to do SSJG without the ritual, that's all.
>Roshi and Tenshinhan brought to fight when 18, Buu and Gotenks exist
I think they wanted to give some overlooked characters a chance to shine. Are you complaining that underused characters finally got used?
>SSJB Goku hurt by a laser
It was a little gratuitous but in concept I didn't mind it. They did make it look a bit painfully easy.
>Whis can just reverse time, removing tension from futere sagas
1. Whis can only go back 5 minutes or so.
2. Beerus and Whis only BARELY care about earth. Whis isn't gonna feel obligated to do that very often.
>Hype up Vegeta's revenge to have Goku save the day Anticlimactically
I won't lie. That does bug me though.

>>150660261
>Freeza stronger than Gods after 4 months training
>New blue for for no reason
>hype up vegeta's revenge to have goku save the day anticlimatically
oh boy. have you seen future trunks in zamasu saga? you're in for a ride buddy.

>>150660261
>Broly 2 had the Family Kamehameha and Broly 3 had a unique cast of characters that made sense for teh story. Bojack had that balla Tien vs. Trunks fight.

Get a load of this fucking autist hahaha

>>150659391
Super Android 13
Bio Broly
Tree of Might

>>150660261
>>Freeza stronger than Gods after 4 months training (one of the stupidest plot points in the entire shit)
Goku went from weaker than Vegeta to stronger than Frieza in less than a month

>>150657180
>Maybe they're pushing Toonami to air earlier because they're banking on DBS's success?

I think only Dragon Ball Super is earlier. So Super at 8. Then other Cartoon Network shows. Then Toonami back again at 11:30 with the reairing of Super.

But yeah the earlier showing is to get lots of kids to watch it. Can't expect all of the kids to stay up at 11:30 to watch Super.

>>150659391
Most of them.

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>>150660261
>Freeza stronger than Gods after 4 months training
Freeza and King Cold are considered mutants of their race, so it's not too far-fetched. Also not only did he not train a day in his life, we never saw how exactly he trained anyway.

> New blue form for no reason
Beerus said Goku "absorbed" SSG in the end of BoG, so there's no need to transform into SSG. SSB was a way to introduce a newer SS form, since SSG was out.

> Roshi and Tien brought to fight when Andriod 18, Buu, and Gotenks exist
Buu was sleeping and Gotenks is too immature and erratic. But yes, I guess this is a valid point...though it seemed like they just brought back fighters who were actually alive during the Freeza Saga, so they would know the kind of monster Freeza is.

> SSJB Goku hurt by a laser
When he had his guard down. Same happened when Vegeta let his guard down in Namek and Krillin almost killed him, or when Krillin hurt a resting FP SS Goku with a pebble.

> Whis can just reverse time eliminating tension from future sagas
The cost is high though. Whis mentioned he couldn't do it in the anime later on. Also "future sagas" isn't related to the movies.

> Hype up Vegeta's revenge to have Goku save the day anticlimactically
Goku stealing Vegeta's kill is my main gripe with the movie. But in the end it was a team effort...Vegeta beats the golden forme out of Freeza, Whis uses time jutsu, and Goku steals the kill.

I understand that you don't like RoF for whatever reason, but preferring the movies I listed earlier here >>150659567 over RoF completely baffles me.

>>150659391
all of the Broly ones

>>150661525
>all of the Broly ones
Movie 8 is good.

>>150660261
>Broly 2 had the Family Kamehameha and Broly 3 had a unique cast of characters that made sense for teh story. Bojack had that balla Tien vs. Trunks fight. Resurrection added nothing good. Worst Dragon Ball story.

So you're a nigger. Opinion discarded.

>>150659633
>kino
Fuck off.

Are people forgetting intentionally that Frieza being stronger in four months time of training makes sense considering his almighty boost of power of being a mutated freak of nature by his race's standards without training?

>>150661883
yeah but muh memes xDdd

>>150660261
>worst dragon ball story
>not worse than corn husk blob Broly
>worse than clone Goku
>worse than silicon Cooler
>worse than KAKAROOOOOT Broly
>worse than Garlic Jr
>worse than Legend of Tapion
>worse than Avocado

Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger spic.

>>150661883
So why didn't he train after he got his ass kicked and went into the cyborg body?

>>150661971
He trained in RoF because he realized that Goku's power had eclipsed Majin Buu's, and Buu was a being he, Frieza, had been told by his father never to cross. Obviously he realized he wouldn't be able to fight someone that powerful without first improving himself. When he returned to Earth to kill Goku after Namek he had no reason to believe Goku's power was ridiculously higher than it had been, and since his cybernetic implants had increased his power he was confident that he could handle any reasonable increase Goku had achieved.

>>150661971
The cybernetics made him stronger and he wanted his revenge immediately

>>150662071
If Goku hadn't trained with Beerus and Whis, Frieza would have shitstomped him.

>>150661971
>>150662071
>>150662216
>>150662092
Ironically, Goku had told Freeza to train and get stronger before challenging him again.
If Freeza HAD done that, Goku would've been fucked proper.

>>150662308
Wasn't it said in an interview or something that Golden Frieza was close to the limit of his power and couldn't get much stronger?

Of course Vegeta said that about himself and Goku and they still got significantly more powerful after.

Now I wish this was Frieza's scenario in Xenoverse 2 instead of the Cooler dual boss battle: Towa uses her magic to unlock his Golden form on Namek

>>150662838
>Towa uses her magic to unlock his Golden form on Namek
I bet that will happen in XV3

>>150659391
Rewatch Bio Broly and tell us what you think

>>150662972
or xenoverse 4

>>150661208
thats because of zenkai bullshit. frieza dont got zenkai bullshit.

>>150662972
>>150663039
I wish instead of milking the franchise they'd give us a good roster already.

It's ridiculous that neither Frieza, nor Cell, nor Majin Buu have all their forms playable.

There's also shit like Dabura, Baby Vegeta, Long Haired Trunks, Android 19, Dr Gero and Uub being missing. Or no DB characters.

It's clear they are deliberarely leaving stuff out so that they can use it later. And that's shitty.

>>150663150
He might as well. He comes back stronger every time he gets his ass beat

>>150663351
I hope one of the future sequels does involve Dragon Ball. If you wanted to fuck up Earth's timeline, wouldn't it make more sense to do it while Goku is a kid and the strongest power level is like 300?

>>150663351
>wanting even more Trunks clones

>>150663351
I just wanna play as kid Goku or Arale in a mainline DBZ game again.

>>150663351
I don't care about any of those characters all I want is Rose Black

>>150663468
The only problem I see with that is that not many DB characters could fly. But they could definitely handle that some way.

Imagine a Budokai stage from DB, instead of the shitty one from Buu Saga, King Piccolo and Tao Pai Pai as playable characters.

>>150663479
GT Trunks was a mistake. Still, Ultra Trunks is a must in a DB game, especially if all of the other Trunks look the same.

>>150637867
>hell

But I thought that each planet has their own hell.. Like how Frieza was stuck in Earth's hell when Trunks killed him, and again when Goku killed him in RF.

>>150663573
That's anything but confirmed as DLC. The first pack pretty much covers the tournament saga, all that's left is the Zamasu arc. I expect to see:
>Super Trunks
>Rosé Black (maybe in two slots if Hit has too)
>Zamasu
>Fusion Zamasu
>Vegeto Blue

>>150663554
Arale and 4 kid Gokus are playable in Fusions, for what it's worth

>>150663628
Budokai Tenkaichi let them fly around for a short amount of time and then drop out of the air

>>150663705
Good. I much rather these characters than weak DB shit or characters I'll never use like 19 or Gero.

>>150663806
That's a pretty good idea, reminds me of Goku vs Tien.

>>150663628
Yeah, they could just remove GT Trunks. I doubt anyone would miss him anyway.

>>150663860
It's not like we should choose between them. Xenoverse 2 offers way too little new, instead giving us shitload of DLC. If they were going this way they should have had a bigger roster to start, and not waste slots on shit like Masked Saiyan or Turles.

>>150663960
Is there any reason to buy Xenoverse 1 now that 2 is out? It sounds like they're very similar

>>150664066
Unless you care about their story modes, I don't think so.

Really the one characters that are actually missed are Dabura (him being Towa's brother and all that) and Buuhan/tenks.

>>150664066
No. XV2 has a better roster (for what it's worth) already including all the DLC characters from the first game and actually did make some big improvements to the combat system.

>>150663677
Each planet has its own sector in hell.

I play Xenoverse and Fusions for the Original Character content

It's a lot more fun than playing Raditz to Buu for the 20th time

>>150664157
>Buuhan/tenks.
This hurts the most. Super Buu is cool and all, but once he absorbed Gotenks he became much better.