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How does Gut's have the power to throw around the infamous 400 pound iron mass of his weapon, /a/? Is there even a single man in real life that could do that?
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That thing is way too thin.
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>>150631253
Yes
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>>150631253
With a normal two-handed grip like Guts, no. If the handle was about a meter long, some strong men competitors may be able to lift it. Forget about swinging it though.

Guts does it with work and guts.
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Its not the biggest thing he lugs around
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>>150631578
he's a big guy

>>150631451
What about a young bodybuilder arnold?
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>>150631253
Where's the 400lb figure come from?
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>>150631739
>bodybuilder

Lol, bodybuilders are strong by normie standards, but not even close to peak-human. Arnold in particular is kind of a manlet and focused on perfect aesthetics (Which he damn near achieved, imo). But you want guys like Halfthor, or other strong men if you want to lift something as unbalanced and heavy as the dragonslayer.
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>>150631739

Arnold couldn't even swing it. Takes an incredibly strong man to power clean 500 lbs. You're doing good if you can deadlift 500.
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>>150631802
>he hasn't watched the anime
Anon, your fucking non-educated ass is really setting off my autism here.
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>>150631802
Using comparisons with Guts, you can make a rough 3d model of DS and calculate its mass using the density of steel. Very much an approximation, but it does end up in the ballpark of 400 lbs. Impossible to be more accurate since DS actually does vary in size over the course of the manga. This is certainly not word of god.
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>>150631833
Holy shit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAXbZxuWoTk
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>>150631906
That's kind of what I thought, it seems a little high imo but not unreasonable.
My big issue is how Guts wields with his crude prosthetic. I imagine a really motivated strongman could put together a HEMA-inspired style based around a superheavy weapon, but it wouldn't look much like what we see Guts do and it certainly would require two fully functioning hands.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Y4o_BqC0A
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>>150631802
An engineer rendition of Dragonslayer on SolidWorks 3D CAD.
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Guts is pretty much lifting it one handed. His prosthetic hand is secured by leather straps, it cannot bear any significant weight.
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>>150631253
Eddie Hall could do it.
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>>150632211
What if the brand on his neck gives him the ability to hold it in the prosthetic because of the curse?

...in reality, it's just fantasy.
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>>150631943
That's the stuff. Truly beautiful.

>>150632211
My headcanon is that he has superstrong rare-earth magnets in the palm and fingers, and that he can close his hand by flexing his forearm stump with some incredible mechanism.

>>150632346
That's the one.

>>150632355
Leather straps are actually surprisingly string. A few thick ones can hold hundreds of pounds pretty easily.
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>>150632346
>aircraft grade steel
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>>150631253
Anime logic, you'd have to be a superhuman to swing that around with even one hand. But I guess you can say humans in Berserk have more strength than us because they are in fiction I guess.
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>>150632331
What the actual fuck.
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>>150632410
Aircraft grade only means it's a light and strong alloy, but not especially hard like the blade is.
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Doesn't the normal huma can only use 1/3 of it's total strength? Because using the full thing would damage the muscles?
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>>150632475
Also Guts has elfish ears, he probably isn't totally human even if he thinks he is. Not to mention the wolf demon thing.
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>>150632331
Just saw that one too. Fucking hell, that's insane.
Shame they are all fat. I want someone muscular and fit like Guts to do this.
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>>150632513
Yeah, but normal humans can only deadlift about 200 lbs. People who actually lift a lot are probably closer to 80% thanks to conditioning, and still nowhere close lifting DS.
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>>150632355
Have you fucking seen how Dragonslayer can literally split in half a man on his armored horse? HAVE YOU SEEN GROUPS OF ARMORED MEN GETTING TORN IN TWO FROM THIS SWORD? IT'S ATLEAST FUCKING 400 POUNDS, ANON.

No lightweight sword can do that.
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>>150632581
Won't happen in our lifetime, unless you're willing to count inevitable cybernetics or genetic engineering.
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>>150632581
You need to be heavy to move that kind of weight. The guy needs to be at least 450 pounds to deadlift 1000
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>>150632633
All we need to do is find an elf and a human, have them fuck, take the female right before the baby is born, hang the woman, wait for the baby to fall out, take the baby, raise it, force it to hold a heavy sword during its entire childhood and have it non-stop training, subject the child to a horrific childhood to where it grows up into a strong man and give it a 400 pound sword in which we will name this child "Guts".
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>>150632633
Man, I'd love cyborg olympics. Only requirement is that whatever is lifting still has a human head and is actually using its brain to send signals to his members, biological or not. A guy with artificial muscle lifting a few tons...

>>150632581
>Implying those guys aren't fucking muscular.

Learn to love the bears kid.
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Can a person actually use his Golden era sworld?
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>>150632581
They are incredibly fit, in reality if someone like Guts tried to do what they did the lining keeping their internal organs inside of them would rip and they would die.
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>>150632780
what's the point of a cool car if it has a cover over it?
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>>150631253
Who cares? it's magic shit, he's superhuman.

Do you also ask how Cloud uses the buster sword?
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>>150631253
Simples anon guts did git gud.
If you git gud you too can swing sharpened steel beam around like a boss.
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>>150632808
fucking tip top kek
imagine the crowd
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>>150631253
This is a club with a pointy head.
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>>150632821
You can outrun the dumb and showy camaros, or pull a tree trunk out of the ground with pure horsepower.

Nice smugface though.
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>>150631253
>title thread dragonslayer
> doesn't post dragonslayer sword image
Kys faggot
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>>150632827
Comparing Cloud and Guts is a bit of a stretch. Cloud vastly overpowers Guts due to alien DNA steroids.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd912tf6ois


That sound it makes it orgasmic
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>>150632934
desu this.

>>150632944
The power of being an emo kid is stronger than anything will, humanity, or love can achieve.
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>>150631253
No. He can only do it because he exists in a fictional world with fucking magic and demons
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>>150631253
No, it's physically impossible. The heaviest swords used in real life were probably 10 times lighter than the dragon slayer at most.
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>>150633108
Try about 30-40 times lighter. A zweihander only weighed about 8lbs. Which were basically the heaviest swords around.

People overestimate just how heavy swords and even armor actually is.
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>>150633108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GP-564SC4

There is a video on youtube of a historian who talks about dragonslayer and said that the closest thing humanity ever got to was a 7 foot sword and it was only 95 pounds which was used in battle a few times. Surprisingly the wielder was still alive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBi9sL38g4

Puck said all you have to do to pick it up is just to put your back into it, you lazy fucks.
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>>150631253
>Guts carries around a 400lb sword.
>He himself is probably in the mid 200lb range
>He's strong enough to jump around with his sword on his back.

At that point, fuck swinging his sword, he could crush just about anything he fought just by leaping on an enemy.
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>>150633226
>the wielder was still alive
>any modern battle
>using a sword
wot
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>>150633276
fucking kek

How tall is Guts?
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>>150633267
Using your back to lift things is actually very bad for you.
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>>150633304
It was an old battle before guns were used
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>>150633363
So the guy was like 200 years old?
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>>150633360
Thus the workman's comp signs posted in every single responsible business environment
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>>150633304
They still have their uses actually. Plenty of people still use machete, swords, and knives for close combat. I mean yeah its not wise to run at an enemy who uses a gun, but old weapons still have their uses.
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>>150633385
No fucking lel, the historian was showing an old picture of the man and his sword and spoke about the picture.
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>>150633385
Not him, but do you know how to read? You might want to go back to elementary school and learn basic comprehension.
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>>150633405
It would be fucking badass to go to the middle east to fight ISIS only with a sword
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>>150633385
>anon said historian

How did you read "a man was talking about he and his 7 foot fucking sword which he used in battle 200 years ago before guns were a fucking thing"

God damn haha
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>>150631253

You could at least post a picture of the right sword OP.
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>>150633405
I don't see how carrying a long sword would be very beneficial in battle at all, machetes or knifes for close combat? Sure, any longer range and a pistol would do the job perfectly.
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>>150633483
That's a smug pepper, wouldn't you agree?
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>>150633304
Kek thinking of gate just after jsdf goes through the gate, sword wielding cucks get btfo, best moment in anime history.
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Has anyone played this game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZdGzlBqCyo

Also, here is the real 7 foot sword pic
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>>150633590
Seriously why is it so fucking big how is this good in war?
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>>150633405
Machetes and knives are tools, they can be used to kill but that's not the reason they bring them around.
I don't know anything about swords in modern combat.
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>>150633611
How do you know you aren't fucking small?
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Here is a list of swords still active

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces#Swords
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>>150633668
I guess being 6 foot means I am not good enough
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>>150633502
The same way a bayonet was useful for combat. Most swords have a reach that a machete or knife doesn't have. While yes, a pistol has the advantage in terms of damage and range, think of it this way. You're standing 5 feet from someone, you have a pistol and they have a sword running at you. You may shoot them in the head or leg and drop them instantly, but the chance of shooting them in the chest where a bullet proof vest exists is also a possibility due to you panicking, whereas if that happens, that sword is going to be in your face or causing some type of damage to you in some way.

Like I said, they don't have many uses, but they do have some, especially depending on where you are in the world and who it is you're fighting. Condensed areas or places to hide makes them more useful than say an open desert.
>>150633630
Both are tools, but knives have a lot of close quarter uses. They're actually very handy to have. Much like a dagger, etc. You can substitute a machete for a sword too to clear brush out of your way for instance.

Everything has a use in some way.
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>>150633611
It's not, this was probably just an experiment by a bored blacksmith.

>>150633705
Hey there, fellow 6 footer.
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>>150633611
Its used for killing cavalry on horseback.
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I wonder who was the strongest man to have ever lived in existence. I wonder if they could've done it.
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>>150633845
If Jesus was an actual person and the Messiah, I'm sure he could have done it, but who knows if he existed or not. Same with Samson and shit.
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>>150633611
Basically with 2 handed weapons you don't try to be fancy, if you do all that happens is other people get to use their techniques against you. You jut swing, hard, and randomly.

Imagine doing that with that thing, and how many people are gonna take their chances being near you.
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this fucking ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NvVVhFlYPE

When did this clang thing become a thing?
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>>150633900
>Implying Guts isn't more real than those two comic book characters.
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>>150631253
Pure strength and his eternal hatred of Griffith
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>>150633982
>implying
oh ye of the greatest faith of nothing.
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>>150634064
I'm muslim, so all my faith is dedicated to my loli wives.
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>>150631253
hes a big guy
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>>150631253
If you prefer some sort of pedantic lore explanation, your options are: some sort of analogous creatures to the Elementals which govern mass instead of heat or moisture are lightening it arbitrarily, or Godo made it out some sort of iron that's not actually iron like on Earth, but fancy iron that's heavy and light at the same time, or it's been affected by being swung through so many people, Apostles, and animals--characters make this observation on a couple of occasions.
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>>150633276
>>He himself is probably in the mid 200lb range
Fuck that, he would weigh far more.

>>150633337
He's like 6"5 or something.
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>>150633611
>>150633765
>>150633825
>>150633902
That sword was used by a very famous Big Guy who was so big and so strong he could wield it as well as a normal man could wield a normal sword.

Do you even history?
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>>150633902
that's a little silly.

you ever check out a historical manual?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbNL_At0IVw&ab_channel=scholagladiatoria

watch this and get some perspective. the guy in the vid studies medieval martial arts and what have you, he admits he aint an expert though.

You are right that the reach of a longsword is important but every weapon has techniques. Various stances and guards.

An unskilled fighter fighting a skilled fighter with similar equipment is likely to lose unless luck takes its toll.
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>>150634318
That's just historical trivia more tahn anything.
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>>150634292
exactly. The armor alone is probably 200 if not more

Hopefully with this spring having the new episodes that the CGI is less....ugly
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>>150634318
>by a very famous "Big Guy"
notice how the B and G are capitalized.
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>>150634327
That's all very good for duelling, but not for mass combat. You also have to remember many manuals are VERY dubious, a lot of 3rd sons just wrote shit because they had nothing better to do, etc.

One of the few pretty creidble ones is from a german mercenary commander whos name escapes me right now, and he pretty much says "yeah in mass combat forget your fancy techniques, that shit's more likely to get you killed than anything else."
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>>150631253
Pier Gerlofs Donia uses that sword and he killed many, many people with it

you just gotta be a fking boss
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>>150634388
fucking kek he probably would've added something like "just do what guts does and swing"

Honestly Guts has no cool moves. He just swings the fucking thing hard and with anger.
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>>150631253
The problem ain't so much the lifting. If you swing a sword of that size and weight around your body won't be able to create enough friction to stay grounded. So even if a person is strong enough to lift it, he would still have to weigh several tons to swing it like Guts does.
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>>150634433
>Honestly Guts has no cool moves
Speed reading.
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>>150634473

>>150634471
AKA, you swing the fucker, it swings you.
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>>150634471
I want to see a machine lift it and create enough force to mimic Gut's speed for all of us normal human beings to finally see if that amount of mass and speed can literally chop an armored horse in two
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>>150634327
for historical manuals, just check out Fiori de Liberi's Flos Duellatorum and that should give you an idea. Includes armored and unarmored fighting.
http://www.thearma.org/Manuals/Liberi.htm#.WEev8LIrLcv
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>>150633765
Nope.
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>>150633590
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>>150634588
what the actual fucking hell
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>>150634388
You are correct. Little can be predicted in the chaos of battle but it serves one better to know something and to rely on something than to know nothing at all, which I am sure you would agree with.
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>>150634588
>Cat in the window next to some beautiful armor
>and the dude has what seems to be a Katzbalger as well
ha
that's like a pun or something
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I don't think there's anyone on earth who would have a body comparable to Guts' as the manga describes.

>started swinging full sized swords at age 5
>that's all he did until his first battle shortly after
>still swinging his sword all day every day
>by the time he's 16 he doubles the size of his normal sword
>then triples it at age 19
>all this time fighting in wars and practicing in his spare time
>not only does he have raw strength but he's in crazy good shape, can do all sorts of circus shit
>then gets branded and fights even crazier battles every night

Putting aside how comically huge the swords look, the feats up until the dragonslayer are real. Guts said during the 100 man battle the sword was 3 times a normal sword, so despite looking much larger than that we can probably put stock in his words.
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The math I have done suggests Dragonslayer weighs about 180-200lbs.

Doing some simple maths. 5 feet long 1 foot wide and 1 inch thick
Iron is 0.284 lb/in3
60 * 12 * 1 * .284. = 204 lbs
3/4 of an inch thick = 153
1/2 of an inch thick = 102

6 feet long and 1.5 feet wide = 368 lbs
only 1/2 thick 184 lbs

The table I am on right now is less than an inch thick. I can't imagine a sword being thicker than that. For Dargonslayer to be 2 inches thick would make it impossible to swing. That is almost like swinging Andre the Giant around. The thickness would have to be really close to 1/2 inch for any person to swing it. (I am certain Dragonslayer is not that thin) That brings the weight down to 100 lbs. When I was 18 years old I could barely do 10 curl reps of 70 lbs dumbbells.

The thought of anyone swinging Dragonsalyer around like Guts does is pure fantasy.
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>>150634788
>5 feet long 1 foot wide and 1 inch thick
It's bigger than this. It's like 6 feet long and 2 inches thick.
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>>150632581
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>>150634788
>>150632346
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>>150633611
They were often used to break pike formations, zweihanders and similar weapons would allow to destroy the pikes without putting the attacker in (even more) danger.
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>>150634848
This image is lol
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>>150631303
That's not the dragonslayer, though.
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Btw, this guy apparently owns another massive zwei as well. The flame one does look more badass.

>>150634672
kek

>>150634625
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweih%C3%A4nder
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>>150632331
>his legs entirely give out after doing the deadlift
This man is a god.

I can't even imagine someone lifting 500kg and I literally just watched it happen.
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>>150634920
It is accurate though. Showboat muscles vs actually functional muscles.
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>>150635037
It's like people don't actually browse /fit/.
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>>150635037
>>150634848
Sure but we live in an age where we don't need useful muscles anymore, both types of muscles are for competition and for competition only so saying one is more useful than another is pretty dumb.

I say do whatever you want, I'll continue my skinnyfat lifestyle
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>>150631253
Zodd is his dad so he has 50% demon stronk
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>>150635094
You mean Skull Knight is his dad.

>Zodd
>letting a woman live

SK knew his circumstances, it's the only explination.
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What if the dragonslayer is hollow to some degree?
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>>150635131
It's a slab of iron.
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>>150635037
It's not like bodybuilder muscles are nonfunctional. They are still much stronger than the average man. They are merely not "as" functional as powerlifters.
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>>150635131
That would explain the clanging. But if it was hollow it wouldn't have been able to take Grunbeld's canonball. Also Goddo doesn't have the technology to assemble plates like that. Also, it would be absolutely useless except making the sword a bit thicker. Might as well make a thinner blade with the same amount of material if you do that.
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>>150635071
>both types of muscles are for competition and for competition
Except that's wrong, there is a direct correlation between muscle mass and health, especially when you age. Skinnyfat people age poorly and are far more likely to suffer from age-related diseases.
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>>150634848
So what's this then?
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>>150635274
Of course I have worse health than both types in the image (if both of them aren't abusing steroids and HGH) but I was comparing both of them. I don't think bearmode or Arnold mode (again without steroid/hgh abuse) are generally healthier than the other.

I really should start cardio or something.
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>>150635349
A monster.
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The design of DS is impractical from all real world perspectives. It's fantasy for a reason.
Not even those fat guys competing in Strongman could wield Dragonslayer. Repeatedly swinging anything even a quarter that weight would probably cause permanent muscle injury due to the motion of an overhead swing.
Two handed swords like these
>>150634963
>>150634623
>>150634588
weigh less than 10 lbs. This monster (>>150633590) weighs 15 lbs.

I'm not an expert on dragons, but how much should a sword weight to knock down a T-Rex? I seriously doubt 400 pounds is necessary.
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>>150631253
Torque nerfed in berserkaverse
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>>150635349
gross
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>>150635352
Actually neither of them are healthy by any metric you could name.
The drugs they took have shortened their lives by litteral decades and the types of activities they do have ensured that they will have a horrible time of it in their twilight years. IF they are lucky enough to live that long.
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>>150632768
And the hardest part of all this, getting the 400 pound sword.
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>>150635349
BAKEMONOOOOOO
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He can handle it!
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>>150635349
>ayyyy lmao
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>>150635391
>I'm not an expert on dragons, but how much should a sword weight to knock down a T-Rex? I seriously doubt 400 pounds is necessary.
I kinda doubt the 15 pound sword would kill a bear with an overhand swing. A rhino or hippo too.
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>>150632346
Wouldn't swinging something that heavy throw you off your feet?
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>>150635544
good luck swinging it.
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>>150635430
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dickerson_(bodybuilder)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Columbu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Oliva

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Bannout
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>>150635430
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>>150635349
Burnt toast
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>>150635661
man he gets a badass beard as time goes on.
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>>150631253
It's already been said that Guts should be flying off his feet when he swings the fucking thing.

Also, getting hit with it would be the equivalent of like 30 Tons of TNT.

Autism in Anime
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>>150635639
But these people were at their peak at the time when HGH and Testosterone wasn't very prevailing. I mean Arnold would even troll people saying that beer is his secret ingredient for success because throwing someone off with something like that would mean a big difference.
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>Is there even a single man in real life that could do that?
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>>150635544
>current year
>not being a herculean olympic powerlifter than can casually talk about swinging a 400 lbs iron ultra greatsword and only being thrown off your feet

sorry us measly peasents can only imagine what that must be like.

spotted the strength build.
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>>150635349
Honest, was certain it was a dude from the back.
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>>150632346
>1045 spring steel

Fucking garbage for a blade.
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>>150631253
How much would it weigh if it was folded 1000 times on the inside while still being dragonslayer size?
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>>150636954
are you sure you understand what you are saying? good luck folding a 400 pound 2 inch thick 6 ft long sword a 1000 times.
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>>150636954
They would weight pretty much the same. Dragonslayer or any sword for that matter are not made from cast iron.
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>>150632331
>the crowd's chanting
Jesus Christ, I'm fucking motivated now.
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>>150631253
I think it was hinted in the manga that willpower has some weird power in the Berserk universe, so Guts can use the DS because of that
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>>150632409
Pretty sure magnets are manga cannon, not headcannon.
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>>150637283
The old man reforged it just fine without Guts or that other guys help. So he isn't really a normal human either.
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>>150633438
>Syria
>M4 as primary
>Zweihander as secondary.
>Run out of 5.56 on the second day.
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>>150631253
>Is there even a single man in real life that could do that?
Lift? Yes. Hold by the hilt and swing? Hell no.
And if Berserk had realistic physics once Guts swung that thing the way he did the momentum would be insane and he wouldn't be able to stop it the way he does with his weight.
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>>150633919
When a throwing knife made a clanging sound on a rabbit during one of its episodes. It was too horrible to pass up.
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>>150631253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfOAgKA7h7g

With superhuman strength.
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>>150636076
Hey, I complained in the reddit thread where it was made.
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>>150638150
The first episode, to be exact.
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>>150634318
Bane?
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"Due to their size and weight—typically at least 1.4 m (4 ft 7 1⁄8 in) long and with a weight of over 2 kg—Zweihänders require two hands; as such they require at least 25 cm (9.84 in) for the grip.[3] Zweihänders above 4 kg are considered to be more ceremonial than practical.

Early Zweihänders were simply larger versions of longswords. Later examples had Parierhaken ("parrying hooks") at the top of the ricasso as well as side rings on the hilt. A sword did not necessarily have both features.[3] Some Zweihänders had wavy blades and were called Flammenschwert."

A Zweihander is piss.
Anyone who does serious lifting can swing it, Dragon Slayer however, 400lbs. Fuck. That's my deadlift
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>>150631253
Someone with retard strength probably could. Kids have been know to lift cars by a little bit when under extreme duress. A grown man is strong, sure, but they think about things too logical to be able to tap into that retard level strength.
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>>150633226
Needs more CLANG
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>>150638500
A grown man can lift a car with leverage. Retard kids don't lift the car, they tilt it. I can do that.

400lbs is ridiculous. No one on the planet can swing a sword that heavy.
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>>150636076

It's the most common steel for swordmaking. Can be made into a reasonably good blade with the right tempering.

Not like there's any Chromium, Tungsten etc. available in that era to make any other kind of alloy anyway.
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I can lift the Dragonslayer just fine.
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>>150635349
Bikini modelling. Female body building is split into different categories.

You've got bikini modelling like this, where muscle definition is important, but the size of the muscles isn't.

Figure modelling which puts an emphasis on larger muscles.

Fitness which is the same but bigger.

Physique which is pretty much the open weight category of bodybuilding, be as big and as cut as you can get.
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>>150638703
You're mom lifted my Dragonslayer just fine, if you know what I mean.
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>>150632331
Apparently, a bunch of blood vessels in his brain burst after that lift and he was only a few minutes away from dying. Kinda pushing the limits of the human body there.
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>>150633386
Hahaha funny image

Can I save this?
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>>150638860
Well, anyone can lift your Dragonslayer with a finger
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>>150632934
Came here to post this
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>>150634327
I remember seeing some behind the scenes stuff for the Berserk movies where they got dudes like him to help make the fight choreography look more authentic. Pretty cool stuff.
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>>150638874
Thanks friend
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>>150631943

>He weighs around 420 lbs
>tfw not even 6 ft and only around 220

That's fucking insane. It's like, why even bother trying, since I'll never be able to compete with that.
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>>150638863
>Apparently, a bunch of blood vessels in his brain burst after that lift and he was only a few minutes away from dying.

Do you have a single fact to back that up? Wouldn't he die anyway? Please explain.
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>>150631802
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Guts can control the fingers of his prostitic hand? In affirmative case, how works?
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>>150631451
>some strong men competitors may be able to lift it.
so could I.
>muh superhuman strongmen
They're just snowniggers on roids. Nothing new or special.
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>>150631943
>A wholo stadium gathers to watch a man lift a piece of iron a meter above ground
I don't get the fuss.
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>>150631253
Call me Gutsowski

>mfw normal swords are toys for me
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>>150642057
It's the fact that he can lift that piece of iron, really.
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>>150635349
>I could be a cute housewife but I choose to be GIGANIGGA
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>>150631253
Donovan teach Guts the magical of the black "sword"
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>>150637914
For the glory of God
Deus Vult
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is the 2016 anime still going? did it get better?
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Isnt El CID the nearest thing we have as a IRL guts?
Legends had he used a 2 handed sword in one hand and was ambidextrous
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Damn
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>>150643906
It's okay.
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>>150634848
Orc confirmed strongest of races.
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>>150632331
>Crowd chanting his name

That's the good shit right there
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>>150643906
Cour 1 ended a long time ago, cour 2 was delayed until 2017.

>>150646807
>ywn have a crowd of hundreds of people chant your name as you lift the weight of a small car
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>>150641581
>>some strong men competitors may be able to lift it.
>so could I.
Lol ok.
>>muh superhuman strongmen
>They're just snowniggers on roids. Nothing new or special.
You sound salty
>>150642057
I agree. It's similar to watching packs of niggers push around a ball
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>>150648816
Fucking kek
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>>150632346
>>150631253
why not make it from lighter alloys?
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>>150649185
Because that wouldn't be cool
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>>150632780
>still has a human head
Those can be acquired for the purpose of participating in the competition
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>>150631253
another example, of using reallife logic on an anime
also, even the other characters say, that this is unrealistic, what Guts is doing
also, if you read the first chapters easily, you could take the suggestion, that Guts has problems too, do carry the Dragonslayer
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>>150649331
stop, posting like, this
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>>150649185
Because titanium and aluminium don't make for good blades, and any steel-based alloy is going to be at least 7000kg/m^3.
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>>150638852
the shit-colored stuff they put on their bodies makes everything 100x uglier
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https://youtu.be/JpUrXJNcS_8
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>2016
>caring about Berserk
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>>150650326
Yeah, 2017 on the other hand will be the year of Berserk with the return of the eclipse.
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>>150649566
What are you trying to say? KEK
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>>150635349
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>>150631253
Even if you could get it swinging, the force and weight would rip off your arms.
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>>150631253
I still can't believe he's in his early 20's
I really hope Miura never reveals that's he's somehow part demon or something. It means so much more that he can do everything he does as just a pure human.
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In vol 1 he looked like he was about to die every time he swung the thing.
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>>150649489
Imagine her princess-carry you to the bed...
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>>150651328
He always does those weightlifting breaths, even in the latest volume.
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>>150635965
Who or rather what the fuck is this.
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>400 lb
Is this stated in the manga somewhere or are you pulling it out of your ass?
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>>150653667
Are you fucking kidding us?
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>>150632346
i would like to see:
1st: tempering that shit
2nd: swing it, without some kind of powersuit
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>>150653667
Nigga you dumb. Read the damn thread.
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>>150631253
It's magic. You wouldn't be able to swing that thing no matter how strong you are with this weight. Or maybe guts is extremely heavy bastard
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>>150635487
You could easily kill a bear with a 15 pound sword, smaller swords have been known to go straight through an ankle bone, which is known for being extremely tough, with that kind of power it wouldn't be hard to seriously damage a bear.
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>>150631739
UUUU
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When does the hiatus end
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>>150635487
Some of he largest real life great swords were called bearing swords and weighed 10+ pounds.
Far to heavy for any practical use, but a complete overkill when it comes to killing bears.
The sword in the image weighs 6.6 kilograms (14.6 lb)
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>>150632780
>Man, I'd love cyborg olympics. Only requirement is that whatever is lifting still has a human head and is actually using its brain to send signals to his members, biological or not. A guy with artificial muscle lifting a few tons...

just go down the docks and watch the forklift drivers, same fucking thing
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400 pounds is 181 kilos, most of /a/ couldn't even deadlift that. Neither could I ;_;
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>>150632379
Lel can't believe I'm seeing that name here. Small world
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>>150656388
Wow it looks alot heavier you nerd
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>>150631253
>>150631943
>>150632346
It’s not possible for a regular human to use the Dragonslayer. That’s the whole point of the sword; Godo wanted to make something no member of the court could use to shame them. It’s capable of hypothetically killing a dragon, but that feat requires

Here’s a comparison for you. This is a world record for the overhead press. Pure upper body strength.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JmCOjnsKi4
It takes a man who is literally the best in the world to push 500 pounds over his head just once. This is with both hands, slowly, and evenly balanced.

Now, imagine 80% of that weight. You’re using a single hand, all of it is concentrated on one side, and you’re rapidly changing directions with it. Even if you could keep a grip on it, and even if you could swing it, slowing it down between slashes would break your back.
If it was 100 lbs, we'd have something in the realm of humanity. Still extreme, but conceivable that a person with perfect genetics, a lifetime of training, and elf-dust postworkout would be able to use it.

400 lbs is a decent single-rep-max on an amateur’s Deadlift (which moves the most weight).

I love the heck out of Berserk. The whole thing just drives home that Guts has become superhuman.
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>>150642171
he lost a lot of weight and probably strenght since his switch to MMA
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What's more incredible than swinging that huge thing is the fact that he keeps hiw muscular mass and never injured himself with the lifestyle he has.
Guts is a one of a kind human who would have become anything he wanted if he didn't have his incredibly unfortunate destiny.
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There isn't.

The limiting factor here is grip and wrist strength. You'd need really strong forearms to wield that thing.

Picking it up isn't that hard though, anyone who trains strength for 4+ years should be able to pick it up.
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>231 replies
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>>150657172
>elf dust post workout
LMAO
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>>150631253
Me
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Götz_von_Berlichingen
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>>150656971
I squatted 420 in high school, am I Guts now?
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>>150658245
Yeah, and people are really underestimating the power of lever arms here. Pic related is a quick calc, assuming the CoM of the DS is in the middle of the slab, and that the handle is about one feet long, with both hands as far from one another as possible (ideal situation).

The force required to keep it straight are in the 1000 lbs+ ranges, at the very least.

>>150659003
No you weak blogger.
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>>150631253
>how
very carefully
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>>150659033
I'm just memeing here, kiddo.
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>>150659033
Did you fucking seriously calculate this?
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>>150659033
Dragonslayer is said to be seven and a half feet tall
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>>150632569
Zodd is his father
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>>150659150
It took me literally twelve seconds

>>150659213
I have it at 7 feet here, close enough to get an idea of the moments involved. Anyway the size of DS varies quite a bit during the manga.
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>>150657172
>100 lbs
>45kg sword
You are fucking insane. Normal sword is 1 to 3 kilo. Even 10 kilos would be too much. 45 is like swinging it a few time and if not going to the hospital then requiring some rest time
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>>150631253

I would wager that Guts is not entirely human.
I was under the impression that he was found surviving on a place where survival was impossible as if death hath forgotten about him.

Plus he survived the eclipse, if he wasn't of supernatural origin at birth he pretty much is more than human by the time he gets the sword.

I think the whole point is that no, the sword is not meant for humans so either he is not human or he is an exception for some reason.
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>>150641354
Its more so explained that the fingers and i think palm are magnetized so he can hold his sword. It actually comes up when he tries to save casca from drowning but his metal fingers cant close to catch her.
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>>150631303
It clearly says that is the sword he had at the raider group.
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>>150642224

And do what with it? Impressive, but not practical.
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>>150659489
Depends. The DS is not, but a properly balanced sword could stay relatively usable in the 50 kg range. Utterly useless in a fight of course. See the huge pommel on >>150656388? It bring the center of mass of the sword to the handle so the moments are somewhat sane. Same could be done on the 50 kg sword.
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>>150659489

This, go get a 10kg crowbar. Swing that fucker for a few HOURS, with correct form and speed.
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>>150659953
> relatively usable
You'll either get a dumbbell with a blade extention and no cuting power or break your spine. Anything inbetween will combine the worse traits of boths possibilities
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>>150635349
俺の嫁
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>>150659860
is called "real" entertainment.
Is like watching a movie, or reading manga. only that is real.
Not anyone can lift something so heavy.
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>>150659860
Whats the point of any sport?
>Holy shit you threw a ball far and another guy caught it
>you hit this ball with a stick and ran a circle amazing
>you managed to make your openent not hit a tiny feathered ball so useful
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>>150659033
Could you do the math for a simple barbell ? They weigh 45 lbs and is 7.2ft tall.
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>>150660911
The point is "holy shit, you've managed to achieve this really hard thing by discipline and willpower".
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>>150661097
Barbells are symmetric, so the forces applied on the hands would be downward 22.5 lbs on each hand. There is no moment, provided each hand is at the same distance from the CoM.

Unless you mean gripping it by one end with both hands. Is that it?
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>>150649566
built for impregnation
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>What about a young bodybuilder arnold?
>>150631833
>>150631878
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>>150632624
>normal humans can only deadlift about 200 lbs
How much of a fucking dyel skeleton lanklet are you that you think such a thing?
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>>150661895
I'm talking about DYELs here, who sadly are the majority of the population nowadays, and which the comment I'm replying to refers to. I do 400, which is admittedly still pretty bad.
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>>150633360
>what are deadlifts
>what are rows
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>>150661719
He was a skeleton?
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>>150662529
Ye
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>>150632394
>>150632211
The prosthetic has magnets in it which lets it hold onto the sword.
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>>150661277
Yeah I mean gripping it like a sword
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>>150656388
You aren't supposed to use a zwai as a regular sword, you half sword it and use it as a spear.
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>>150663111
About what I expected from experience.
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That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.
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>>150662075
I think he meant the the type of lifting people who don't know how to lift do where they just hoist shit without involving their legs or hips at all, leaving all the work on their arm and back and then fucking themselves up
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>>150634693

That level of muscle gain on a human preteen actually stunts growth. Like what's described there isn't 'athletic child', it's 'body builder child'. It's why you shouldn't start such muscle gain until late teens or early 20s.
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>>150638222
love that video so much but he says it himself, that sword's a much more reasonable 1/4in thick as apposed to 2in.
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How long before this thread gets so crazy that an anon tests this with a real sword?
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>>150631253
Of course there are real people that can swing a measly 400lb lump of iron around. how fucking weak are you? Maybe if you spent less time ont he internet and more time in the real world you'd know just how retarded this question is.
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>>150663781
That quote is always fucking cool. I love how the narrator said it in the show
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>>150635349
get that tan shit off and i'd fuck her.

who am I kidding, delicious brown muscle sex.
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>>150634848
>fights bears on a mountain
>functional strength alone is what is needed to "fight"

ok
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>>150653667
From the new anime I guess? Who the fuck would watch that though? Pretty sure the manga never gives a weight.
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>>150656971
Its incredible how these guys dont look really that "strong" at all, but they could probably lift you 10ft in the air without even trying
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>>150635447
Underrated post.
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>>150631253
Even if you were 100x as strong as the current strongest person in the world, it would still be impossible to use the dragonslayer because the sword's weight would swing you when you tried to use it. You'd have to be not just stronger than any real human, but also either much larger or more dense.
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>>150635565
What if he's Guts?
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>>150667253
The new anime does.

I will fucking dedicate my life to swing a 400 pound hunk of iron.

You guys are saying that it's pretty much impossible to even swing the thing as even just doing like a circle drag on it? Fucking seriously? Is it really this impossible?
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>>150651023
Exactly.
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>>150668010
I'm getting fit in the gym right now to show you fuckers I can swing this 400 pound hunka iron.

Even the kid in the fucking show was able to almost pick some of it up
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>>150668508
Aight, see ya when you can deadlift 1000 pounds with one hand. >>150659033
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>>150668508
yeah, Ishidoro lifted some of it, that could actually mean that it's not as heavy as we think.
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>>150669188
Someone actually fucking find out how god damn motherfucking heavy this fucking giant sword is. Why did Man At Arms on youtube say it was 400 pounds when they made the sword IRL?
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>>150667882
It's completely impossible. Lifting a 400 pound object from the edge, like the hilt of a sword, is much harder than lifting it from the middle, which isn't easy to begin with. And swinging it around would take a lot more strength than just lifting it.

And even if you somehow were that strong, it would still be impossible to use because of Newton's third law. The amount of force your body puts into the sword is equal to the amount of the force the sword puts into your body, which means that the sword's weight will swing you around more than you would swing it around. You'd have to cover your body in hundreds if not thousands of pounds of weight just to avoid being carried around by your own swing, and all of that extra weight would mean your strength would have to be that much more superhuman.

In real life the upper limit of how heavy a sword can be and remain practically useful is something like 5 pounds.
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>>150669298
>>150669188
God fucking damnit we've got the dimensions (about) and the material, we do have a good estimate for it and it's been mentioned 10 times in the thread already. >>150632346

Also Man-At-Arms made the golden age sword.
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Its impossible the arguments in this thread are dumb. You can't really compare the exercises mentioned with lifting or swinging a sword. Guts uses levering a lot and doesnt really try to cut the sword's momentum after he gets it going.
Also he trained solely for the purpose of lifting and swinging a sword. All the fibers needed in the right amount for each one.

With that said, I doubt any human could get any close of doing what Guts does.
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>>150670047
The whole reason wielding DS is impossible is because Guts is not using leverage nearly enough, AKA the handle is too damn short.

Biological muscle is unable to accomplish the task of yielding DS, the moment is just too great >>150659033. An elephant with two trumps might, maybe be able to do it.
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>>150635349
why is every bikini fitness or competitive weightlifter for the shows always so fucking dark colored? Asian, white people, it doesn't matter. Why the fuck do they ALL and I mean ALL have that fucking dark color?
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>>150635898
>It's already been said that Guts should be flying off his feet when he swings the fucking thing.

fucking kek
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>>150671070
Being tanned increases the contrast of lights and shadows on the skin, which increases the apparent definition of the bodybuilder. This is why comparing a black guy and a pasty white dude with the same physique, the black guy will appear more ripped and juicy.
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>>150671186
>more ripped and juicy

eww
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>>150635430
>working out makes you live shorter
wow that's not true at all
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>>150670499
I always knew there was something just slightly immersion breaking about Guts holding that sword, and now I realize it's because the CoM of Guts and the Sword would actually be outside his body, making half the forms he does realistically impossible.

Just more proof he's some kind of magic guy demon elf whatever.
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>>150671887
Remember when someone in the harem said everything felt lighter on Elf Island, and one of the witch grannies explained a particular kind of spirit made everything weigh less or some shit? Imo Guts is just always surrounded by those spirits and they're making his sword light enough to be used. Guts has a special connection to spirits, after all.

Kinda in the same way that Serpico's cape is surrounded by air spirits.

Another advantage with this theory is that it keeps Guts a pure human, an important part of his character.
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>>150662529
Pretty fuckin spooky
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>>150651873
but he doesn't have those shake lines around him and the dragonslayer
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>>150672639
beautiful art
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>>150669771
Uh, yeah we know. That's why I said "it's probably not as heavy as we think". Is the material even correct? Don't trust people so easily, we also have the Ishidoro lifting part, why disregard it so easily?
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>>150637570
He has a special apparatus to do it.
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The raider sword is almost equally unusable.
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>>150673397
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>>150631253
He's a cartoon character.
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>>150673196
Godo said it's steel, although there are lighter and heavier steels, there is a lower limit on the density of a steel alloy.

Also, Isidro lifting it is just plain retarded. Actually, he probably should have been severely injured when the sword was dropped on him.

My headcanon is this >>150672563, and for the Isidro thing, I wave it off as the sword being enchanted enough to be lighter 24/7.
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>>150659860
>deadlift
>not practical

I bet you're one of those faggots who would bust out quarter rep overhead squats on a bosu ball
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Because Berserk isn't realistic and Miura has a degree in art, not engineering?

Fuckin nerds.
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>>150669298
They didnt make the DS they made the sword guts used as a mercinary
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>>150663788
No, the work being on their arms and back without using legs would still be fine.

What would kill them is a excessively hunched over or slack back, and a weak core that can't support the lumbar. Combine that with yanking off the floor like a dipshit and you have yourself a ticket to snap city.
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>>150673641
He has a degree in art?
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>>150673766
Yes, a doctorate from Nihon University.
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>>150673816
And Hiroaki Samura failed his classes.


There's a lesson in there, somewhere.
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>>150632768
Don't forget the kid has to get raped in the asshole by a big black man
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>>150673922
Who qualified for Donovan here?
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>>150673482
Yeah, I remember now. Well, as long as they keep Guts a regular human I'm ok.
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>>150673922
Fucking hell that's right.
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>>150673749
What other guy says implies what you replied, stop being a pedantic fuck for the sake of having the last word.
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>>150635352
Technically, assuming no steroids, the Bodybuilder would actually be healthier, since he would have a much cleaner diet catered to maximizing nutrients and fat loss.

The Bearmode can be healthy too, but with how many calories you need to eat after explosive, fucking HEAVY lifting sessions, it's hard to eat clean.
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>>150674083
Your body needs fat, removing all the fat at all cost isn't a good thing.
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>>150674074
Nigger I will deadlift you into the sun if you don't straighten up

>>150674143
This is true. Most bodybuilders don't go below 6% bodyfat unless they're actually insane, though. 8-12% is usually the most common, and perfectly fine.
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>>150674083
>Being so fucking wrong.
You must be some lanky faggot. As a previously fat guy, it's super easy to eat thousand of calories of healthy food. Eggs, veggies, meats, whole grains etc. Eating tons of healthy food isn't unhealthy if you're keeping a sane BF% and expending them with physical activity.

Meanwhile, it's super easy to walk into a micronutrient deficiency while cutting when bodybuilding, especially if you supplement with protein powder.

>>150674193
This. Except it's I that will deadlift you into the sun.
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>>150633590
>>150633611
>>150634318

Pretty sure the sword in question was more for show than actual use. I think it belonged to a Frisian rebel.

Its pretty much the medieval equivalent of Pic related, an ISIS dude who "supposedly" shoulder fired an MG in combat. Looks Badass but there is no real way it can be used effectively.
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>>150674074
>>150674083
>>150674143
>>150674193
>>150674313
>How does Gut's have the power to throw around the infamous 400 pound iron mass of his weapon, /a/? Is there even a single man in real life that could do that?

>one day later

Technically, assuming no steroids, the Bodybuilder would actually be healthier, since he would have a much cleaner diet catered to maximizing nutrients and fat loss.

The Bearmode can be healthy too, but with how many calories you need to eat after explosive, fucking HEAVY lifting sessions, it's hard to eat clean.

>>150674074
Nigger I will deadlift you into the sun if you don't straighten up

>>150674083
>Being so fucking wrong.
You must be some lanky faggot. As a previously fat guy, it's super easy to eat thousand of calories of healthy food. Eggs, veggies, meats, whole grains etc. Eating tons of healthy food isn't unhealthy if you're keeping a sane BF% and expending them with physical activity.

Meanwhile, it's super easy to walk into a micronutrient deficiency while cutting when bodybuilding, especially if you supplement with protein powder.

>>150674193
This. Except it's I that will deadlift you into the sun.

>>150635352
Technically, assuming no steroids, the Bodybuilder would actually be healthier, since he would have a much cleaner diet catered to maximizing nutrients and fat loss.

The Bearmode can be healthy too, but with how many calories you need to eat after explosive, fucking HEAVY lifting sessions, it's hard to eat clean.


fucking kek
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>>150674678
>this entire post

Are you retarded or just new?
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>>150674723
I just found it funny how the OP's question lead to this.
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>>150674760
Why the fuck would you include the text from every post that you linked, with a link to the post, WHICH YOU ALREADY LINKED UP TOP.
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>>150674760
I thought you were spilling your /new/ spaghetti all over (I mean you are, see >>150674819), but you know you're right it's fucking hilarious. Actually laughed the fuck out loud.

Also thanks for the (You)'s
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>>150672639
Every time I see Zodd I swear his horn/s get bigger.
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>>150674678
Deadlifting, woo boy. What a difficult thing to do. Its not like high schoolers who play sports can easily deadlift a damn good amount.

Besides deadlifting and picking up unevenly distributed mass and then swinging it around is vastly different.
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>>150674962
He's been blue balled ever since he lost to the white hawk.
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>>150674848
fucking kek, someone make the fucking picture of the OP, then write "later", and include all of the fucking deadlifting posts.

OH AND THAT FUCKING MATHIMATICAL FORMULA TOO FUCKING KEK
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>>150659033
>>150663644
/a/ has smart people?
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>>150675467
That's literally high school math, did you drop out of high school?
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>>150675304
>>150675467
They're technically mathematical, but it would be more accurate to call them static mechanics formulas. Also no, not really, any of you silly boys could do this if you tried.

PDE's now, that's another story...
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Powerlifters are ugly and fat and this thread is shit. I don't get the point of watching them, "Oh wow he really lifted that thing up" what a sport
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LMAO9PLATE
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>>150675467
You don't really need to be "smart" to do that. You have to know what to plug in, but there aren't any difficult or abstract concepts.

Your average dipshit electrician has similar formulas.
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>>150675532
I'm American.

I don't even know how to write the number 0.0028 in scientific notation.
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>>150675611
>Powerlifters are ugly and fat and this thread is shit

PCDFFTHHAHAHAHAHAHAH I FUCKING LAUGHED HARD RIGHT NOW, LAD

FUCKING KEK

"OH WOW HE REALLY LIFTED THAT THING UP"

HOLY SHIT I'M DEAD
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>>150675707
Y-you don't mean it
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>>150675810
I didn't say it! I am only dying of his random as fucking hell comment of coming into this thread and bashing on everything we are talking about.
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>>150675611
I don't know why, but I guess this feeling that you're ugly and fat and shit.
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>>150675849
Get*
It's bad enough that you're fat and ugly, you don't need to add stupid to the list.
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>>150675950
holy fucking shit kek
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>>150675950
>Muh typo = stupid non-argument

Next time I'm moving 400 pounds of iron, I'll think of you and laugh, remembering someone whose day consists only of shitting up good threads tried to argue I was losing my time.
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>>150631253
Magic. And I'm only half joking.
We don't really know if he is fully human or not, for starters.
He was found under the pile of a dead bodies, remember?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfbLMbl3Vog

Here is a fucking concept for us

This is a 400 pound bathtub

Can we lift up a fucking 400 pound bathtub with one hand AND swing the fucking thing?
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>>150676094
As someone said earlier, deadlifting and moving a 400lb of iron is vastly different. One is unevenly distributed.

Its basically the equivalent of have a 6 inch bar to hold onto while the entire bar is loaded with 400lbs, not just 200lbs on each side of a 4 foot bar to hold onto.
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>>150676185
Even lifting that thing like a sword is next to impossible for the vast majority of humans on the planet.
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>>150676177
He's fully human. This much is obvious from the themes that Berserk pushes. Read a book for once.
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>>150676210
Oh, I'm not even talking about the DS, I'm counter trolling that other faggot.
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>>150676185
400lbs of anything is impossible to wield for most of the planet. But 400lbs of sword would be easier to wield with 1 hand than 400 lbs of bathtub.
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>>150676238
Lifting 400 anything is just fucking madness.

Utter fucking madness.

The only thing on the planet that could've lifted this would be the biblical nephalems who were half demon half human
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>>150676267
He certainly identifies himself as one, yes. But we don't know shit about his heritage and neither is he.
And he is certainly cannot be considered normal human after the branding.
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>>150676094
>whose day consists only of shitting up good threads tried to argue I was losing my time.
It almost makes sense
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>>150676372
>implying guts isn't Berserk's equivalent or a nephilim.
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How much weight do you think this buried fucker could've picked up?
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>>150676458
He probably honestly is.
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>>150676468
Well, his neck doesn't have the structural integrity to support his head, so since dead things don't lift much I'd guess a round 0 pounds.
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>>150676468
None because that's a shoop you stupid shit.
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>>150676507
I meant if they were of flesh and bone lel
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>>150676577
this one isn't a shoop
>>150676588
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>>150676588
>his neck doesn't have the structural integrity to support his head

That's why it's dead, I ignored it's an hoax from the early 2000s.
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>>150635037
bodybuilders=more muscular endurance than powerlifters aka more slow twitch fibers
powerlifters=more strength than bodybuilders aka more fast twitch fibers
The myth that bodybuilders are weak or that their muscles are for show is just that, a myth.
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>>150634848
>fighting bears
Any shitty martial artist of similar size would shit on a power lifter, despite the single video on YouTube that every fat slob likes to show people how badass they are
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>>150676812
>Someone dedicated to fighting would beat someone not dedicated to fighting.

Thanks for the info Anon. In other news, rain is blue and the sky is wet.
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>>150676920
Wow anon rude
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>>150667295
>doesn't look strong
>shit video quality
>bright lighting
> sideways angle
> shot from far away
Ilya Ilyin is 5'9 230 lbs the mans quads are bigger than most mens torsos
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>>150677088
Checked.

Also didnt he get his medals taken away because he was caught doping?

Klokov-sama is still my favorite lifter desu
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3 million is what percent of 3.4 million?
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>>150657540
The transformation was necessary. Pudzian's massive muscles consume tremendous amount of energy and he ran out of gas in a prolonged fight. Not to mention that there are upper limits to weight classes in many organizations.

He delivered one hell of an overhand in his match with Rolles Gracie Jr. though.
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>>150677845
>Being this garbage at math
~88%
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>>150678099
How do, lad?
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>>150678546
divide
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>>150673922
that's the 400 pound sword
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>>150665253
nice meme
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>>150632934
>i just came here to post that i know how dragonslayer looks and its not like dat xdxdxd
out
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>>150631303
It would probably break if you hit a rock with it or something.
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>>150681786
The OP's pic looks like a paper and plastic cosplay prop if anything.

So yes, It would break if you smash it on something hard.
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>>150632513
isn't that basically what the berserk armor is meant to do, and that shows guts making massive improvements strength-wise

with that in mind he uses the dragonslayer without the armor too
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When will the next chapter come out?
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>>150654141
Just to be sure, you guys have already seen this shit right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nwh8yWh5WU
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>>150631253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongman_(strength_athlete)
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Fucking women.
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>>150676094
Pretty pathetic response dude.
You should go back to 5th grade and train there for a little so you can actually answer that butthurt anon.
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>>150631253
it's absolutely impossible for a lot of reasons, not just lack of power
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>>150633902
>You just swing, hard, and randomly.
That would be great in a 1v1, but not on an actual battlefield.
You're standing in a formation with friendlies on your sides and behind you. There's a very specific way you need to use your weapon in order to break the opponent's formation/weapons and not place yourself at risk.
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>>150633825
That's retarded. You're not going to be fighting cavalry unless you have already lost and are running away. Big two-handed swords like that were used as polearms against other polearms.
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>>150634623
god, ds2's claymore looks like ass
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>>150676812
>Any shitty martial artist of similar size would shit on a power lifter, despite the single video on YouTube that every fat slob likes to show people how badass they are
I've seen a situation like this in real life. The martial arts guy is never of "similar size", they're usually smaller. I've seen anv asian guy do some karate spins in the air to intimidate a BIG latino guy before they got into a street fight. They started fighting and the trained asian guy did look like he knew what he was doing, but one big wallop from the bigger latino guy hit the asian guy so hard it knocked it knocked him to the ground. From then on the latino guy just beat the shit out of the asian guy like a ragdoll.

What you said sounds nice and poetic and all.. but it's fantasy. In real world applications, never underestimate the power of brute force
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>>150635391
I'm an expert dragon hunter, you need 100 pounds of sword for every ton of dragon. Average dragons are 2-3 ton, you don't need to thank me.
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>>150631943
That hitching doe.
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>>150639267
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/eddie-hall-nearly-died-after-passing-out-following-new-deadlift-world-record-of-500kg-a7132306.html
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>>150659953
>utterly useless

says the skelington who can barely pick up 20 lbs
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>>150632581
>Shame they are all fat.
Based retard.
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>>150635433
no, the hardest part will be "donovan"s dick
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>>150635349
remove oil, makeup and bling and we got something going on
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