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People die when they are killed, Hayato~.

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People die when they are killed, Hayato~.
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>once fate has happened
Fate reference?
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>>150562985
ayy lmaao iss a fate reference right? thats why the source material is waaaay older than fate ayyyyy
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Tell me one benefit reseting the timeline has when his enemies are killed.
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I'm not sure if I like this jojo reference meme or not.
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>>150564576
Actually, yeah. Why does it need to reset? All it does is risk saving the victims.
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>>150564576
There isn't one, Araki just wanted to write a time travel story so he gave Kira a new power that was only around for 10 chapters before jumping into the final confrontation. It also KIND of sets up the idea of fate in Parts 5 and 6, where it's REALLY important and you literally won't understand the plot without understanding how Araki writes about fate.
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>>150564576
because they still die, but any trace to Kira is removed.
if kira wasn't an idiot, after a few more resets, everyone who could possibly find out about him and be a threat to him would just explode for no apparent reason and he would never need to reset again. If time didn't reset, people could connect Hayato to the explosions and deaths without asking him, drawing attention back to Kira.
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>>150564576
>>150565303
Because it's cool as fuck.
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>>150564576
>>150565303
its a less efficient way of savestating

you can reload back under extremely certain circumstances while not remembering what happened between reloading, but it keeps the effect of whats happened during the reloads
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>>150564576
>>150565303

Because they're fated to die again after time resets. Except this time they never discover him. If he removes Bites the Dust then its permenant.
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>>150566038
The thing is you load up a save when bad things happen. In the case of BtD it happens when something good happens to him. He has no idea that a reload has occurred, and he is not the one in control of what happens in each new save, meaning there isn't a 100% guarantee everything will play out the same. If Hayato didn't get over confident and rig his coffee he could've been killed by Stray Cat.
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what would happen if hayato announced kira's identity on tv?
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>>150565303
I guess if the other's had seen Rohan blow up after fiddling with the kid they could've figured shit out while bypassing Hayato. Time resets to clear potential evidence.
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There are also more methods to convey information than verbal communication. One effect of BtD is that it will trigger if Hayato writes the stuff down. BtD is in Hayato, not the piece of paper, so if he stuck flyers around town saying "Kawajiri is a serial killer" it wouldn't hurt anyone.
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>>150562985
David confirmed for bros
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>>150564576
a) it earases all evidence of involvement while still killing the person.

If he was really on top of his shit he should have taken hayato to their group, named himself then fucked off. The ONLY way kira ever loses a fight to a stand that isn't KC GER or TUSK is him just wanting a quiet life instead of being a battle autist like Jotaro

b) It was what he needed to retain a quite life without being involved. Just like how it brought hayato back and made sure he was out of that mess. It's a mistake fixer. Stands develop off a person's psyche and Kira wanted to erase all mistakes

c) it refrains the first Saga's theme. Fate. Fate as been a primary theme since part one is implied through part two, manifested as the jostar curse in p3, explained in p4, explored in p5 (with Bruno and Rolling Stone) and concluded with Pucci.
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How did BtD resurrect Hayato? Doesn't it have to blow someone up to rewind time?
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The time reset is to prevent people from learning Kira's identity. Taking Rohan as an example, he learned Kira's identity and was blown up. Then time reset and he was blown up without learning about Kira. If time had continued from here, nobody could have connected Rohan's disappearance to Kira as Hayato could not have been seen talking to Rohan before his death.

In short, the time reset is to find the perfect time loop where no evidence exists and Kira can get away with his crimes.
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>>150567694
No. It can be used manully, the same way he told Hayato he could reverse it and set fate right again if he felt like it. After ressing Hayato he shoved it in his eye and its passive trigger set up (finding out who he is)
The reversal power is also the reason Hayato's fate wasn't sealed
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>>150567694

Suppose you could call it a special circumstance on first receipt of the ability. Turning back time was one of the things he needed from the new stand because of the problems that had just happened.
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>>150567694
Kira had killed Hayato by blowing up a strand of hair
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>>150567694
Maybe if he plants BtD in someone dead it revives them by rewinding time since it protects the bomb carrier.

If that is the truth its actually pretty nice ability but probably just one time stuff.
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>>150564576
>>150565303
read the fucking manga
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>>150562899
Is this a Final Fantasy XVI reference?
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Where's the Hayato porn?
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>>150568010
I've read it. You want to answer the question?
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>>150567943
Nope. He uses it on a live target later on.
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>>150567230
That's not how it works
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>>150571783

It would work that way if the time rewind wasn't there.
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>>150567016
Everyone dies
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>>150565303

The better question is why doesn't it reset after everyone Kira wants dead is dead?
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Suppose this happened: "I'm going to go investigate Hayato. If I don't come back, assume I died and Kawajiri is the killer."

In that case, Rohan dies but everyone else learns Kira's identity and he dies. Time reset happens to protect him from this.

>>150572599

It's an automatic stand, the length of time it waits before resetting is arbitrary and was probably only not instant so that it could kill more than one person in one go.
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>>150572599
Kira is unaware that the main cast is killed the first time they blow up, he's not aware that it's happened until he sees Hayato after the reset, so the next time they die, he can stop BtD from resetting again, making their deaths permanent.
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>>150565303
It only really had to have a time rewind aspect because Kira had to go back and not kill hayato in a rage as well as so hayato couldn't use the tape he recorded to incriminate or blackmail him
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Because there was originally going to be a time travel plot, with Josuke's saviour looking like Josuke in the flashback, everything hints about there being one but Araki never went through with it.
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