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I absolutely don't understand all the hate this show got.

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I absolutely don't understand all the hate this show got.
She's not supposed to be kawaii moe ~uguu type of character.
She's broken, socially inapt animal.
If she was as cute and charming as in manga, would she live a life as it showed?
The director deeply understood that and actually had the balls to choose somewhat ugly girl to play her, while mangaka remained gutless pussy under the editors pressure.
This is one of the best and relistic series of the last two decades, prove me wrong.
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it looks like total ass
even among rotoscoped shows it looks like total ass

and no, she actually was a hot qt in the manga
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>>150540732
>she actually was a hot qt in the manga
that's what i'm saying you dumb-dumb
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>>150540660
But she's supposed to look like middle schooler.
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>>150540732
>even among rotoscoped shows
can you give me other examples?
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>talking about anh on a site where 40 years old fatfucks fap to little girls

do you really expect people to understand any shit here?

i dont think so
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>>150540875
idolmaster
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>>150540872
and she looks like one
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>>150540660
I think her physical appearance has little or nothing to do with her isolation. It was her antisocial attitude that brought her there.
Besides, I don't think she's so ugly in the anime.

Also if I recall correctly the mangaka was a staunch supporter of the rotoscoping.
Anyway agree that people flipping their shit at the the art looking bad were ridiculous. I guess this is what should be expected of the audience that swallows the same copy-pasted shows season after season. They get triggered by things they're not used to.
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>>150541208
This.
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>>150540954
only idolmaster movie is rotoscoped and only partly
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>>150541208
So if show/rotoscoping looks like shit It's okay because it is different?
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>>150541081
lack of gradient on face. well, that does not make me hate the show but some people's brain would short circuit because of it
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>If she was as cute and charming as in manga, would she live a life as it showed?
>The director deeply understood that and actually had the balls to choose somewhat ugly girl to play her
Congratulations OP you're fucking retarded
There's nothing unattractive about the model for the rotoscoping, she looks just as average as the girl does in the manga
It's the art and animation itself that are ugly
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>>150540954
and it looks even worse
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It looked bad because a lot of the time the characters were really undetailed and out of place against the background and it was really choppy like a slideshow in a lot of places.
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>>150541409

did they rotoscope chimpanzees?
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>>150541372
>There's nothing unattractive about the model for the rotoscoping
You can say she definetly is not attractive as your typical actress is, especially compared to mc love intererst. And its obvious that she was chosen as such.
>It's the art
Backgrounds are one of the best for series.
Animation was unusual at first but it doesn't matter after first two episodes
>>150541694
There were some flaws in visuals but it'm fucking mad no one even tried to appreciate other aspects of this work
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>>150540660
Uhm... no. She was supposed to be cute on the outside and absolutely hideous on the inside. That was one of the most interesting things about her. The difference between her outer appearance and her actual personality.
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Call me weird, but I always thought she was attractive, specially without glasses.
And her attitude and perverted nature contributed to her hotness. Every second she was onscreen she oozed primitive animal lust and the promise of hard, violent sex.
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>>150540732
Didn't they fix the earlier episodes later anyway?
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>this show is great because this character is ugly
Going against the grain is not inherently great. Subverting cliches is not inherently a good choice. Realism doesn't have anything at all to do with quality.
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>>150541409
It's not on the level of CG but still shit
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>>150541208
Trying to play yourself off as a patrician like that doesn't work.
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Also, one of the best ED songs i've i ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDNj7mqOud0
It's the fucking milestone for anime, giant influence of which is not understood yet
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I liked it, but I don't really want to be associated with faggots like OP.
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I didn't hate it because of the rotoscoping. I hated it because of how half-assed the rotoscoping was, the pacing being slow as shit, and that Nakamura was the only interesting character. Even in the manga, Saeki had next to no character until the season wrapped up, and while I won't fault the original source material or the anime for making Kasuga unlikable (since you aren't really supposed to like him anyhow), would it have killed the author to make him a little bit less spineless and dull?

Also, if you're going to employ rotoscoping, get an animations staff full of talented people instead of a Toei Animation-tier studio like Zexcs.
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>>150542626
Your sitting in faggots cesspool m8
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>>150540732
Doesn't matter, the author specifically didn't want her to be a moe character in the anime and hated the fact that fans had turned her into a cute moe character. Criticize all you want but the anime fulfilled the author's vision of what his series should've been.
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>>150542740
>When a studio wants to adapt your work and you bust their balls to make sure that they make the adaption to your exact specifications and then it turns out to be a piece of shit that bombs so badly that the last three volumes don't even make rankings and then flat-out refuse a free copy of the boxset offered by the publishing studio
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Second season when
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Soundtrack was fucking god-tier though
https://youtu.be/tDNj7mqOud0
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>>150542930
What do you mean?
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The manga is much better.
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>>150542434
That's what a plebeian would say.
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>>150540660
This is one of my favorite shows, it's a really great show about how far you can push the characters, and though the situation isn't normal, it all plays out as if it was happening in reality. The artstyle is reflective of that, and this show is 9/10 great. I wish there was a season two that brings us to the climax of the story at the festival. I wish the manga had ended there or shortly after.
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>>150540660

Manga was good, but biggest disappointment was Nakamura's ending. Just felt so dry compared to everything else. Like, I get it, but it was could have been done better.
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I'd sooner the anime's style over the generic moeshit of the manga any day
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>>150542740
If the author didn't want her as a cute character then why did he draw her as one?
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I like it a lot. If you weren't such a faggot you should know that AnH has got interesting threads with almost no hate unlike this one, which is completely your fault.
Visuals were okay, soundtrack was okay, classroom scene was super well done as well as the most memorable scenes. OP and ED were godly too.
It's overhated but whatever. It seems you didn't learn anything, OP. You seem to care too much about what a bunch of autists think about the show.
Also Nakamura is hot.
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>>150540660
>>150540732
>>150541772
>>150542118
>>150545824
>>150546218
accurately portrayed asians are a mistake
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>>150548369
Something went wrong with your post, anon. Maybe delete it and try again.
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>>150548402
I'll never forgive anyone who made this pile of shit. The manga was perfect. It was beautiful. Then we got this fucking shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJz2WB3dF10
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I thought the guy's story was alright. I liked how he thought he was smart and above others for being into books and hated living in his city. At the same time, I didn't care much for the blackmailing and some of the typical anime shenanigans. never bothered with the manga
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DID SOMEBODY SAY ROTOSCOPING
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>>150548576
Where is this from? Google give me nothing.
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>>150540660
Because it was fucking pretentious and stupid.
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Haven't watched it but AnH is one of my favourite manga, if not my favourite.
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>>150540660

Because it looks objectively fucking awful. There'd be a higher chance of me watching it if it was 3D, stop being retarded and asking retarded questions.
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>>150550226
Hana and Alice
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Stop the presses, 80% of Asian people are actually fucking mogoloids

Whoooooa watch it folks real revolutionary shit here
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>>150541787
This, she's edgy, not ugly. MC starts wanting her too.
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>>150548559
Then do bother, it's really good. Maybe I'm being subjective but I had a great time reading it and I'm still thinking about it to this day.
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>>150550226
the case of hana and alice.
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>>150551291
>80% of people are actually fucking mogoloids
fixd
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>>150540660
One of my favorite series. The uncanny nature of the rotoscoping adds to the series in my opinion.

Music/direction was 10/10
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>>150551299
>she's edgy
She's a schizophrenic sociopath.
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>>150551398
Why is she allowed to be around people?
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>>150551458
Later she's not
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>>150551458
Ask the mangaka.
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>>150551519
You just don't stop being a sociopath or schizophrenic, treatment could help the latter but that's it.
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>>150551620
How about you read the fucking manga? I'll be glad to discuss it with you after you know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>150540660
>while mangaka remained gutless pussy under the editors pressure

>rape, virgin blood running down thighs, attempted child suicide, put all that shit in but don't let me see some ugly bitch

yeah na

>>150551620
What's your point here? She ended up being exactly like that, that's why her and MC never ended up together.
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>>150551692
What are you angry about?
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>>150551696
>She ended up being exactly like that, that's why her and MC never ended up together.
Yea, exactly.
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It's pretty much just a tv show, rather than an anime.
I liked it a lot.
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>>150551933
Okay now I get why you're being retarded. When I said "later she's not" I didn't mean "edgy", I meant "not allowed to be around other people". Stop being a retard now.
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>>150552454
>When I said "later she's not" I didn't mean "edgy", I meant "not allowed to be around other people".
Oh, okay.
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>>150548199
So are you.
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>>150551281
>>150551337
Oh Thanks
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>>150551519
So you think she was under some sort of treatment in the end? She was certainly doped up.
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Music was great.
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>>150540660
I agree. I think it gets a lot of hate because it hits too close to home.
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>>150546218
>with almost no hate
Nigger you surely jest.
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Up to what chapter did the anime cover?
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>>150558453
When it was airing it was a shitfest, I'll give you that. A year later wasn't that bad because all the muhfags left the threads.
In fact this thread got it's shit together eventually.
>>150558491
If you want to read the manga then start from the very beginning, don't be a fag. If you're asking just for curiousity then I don't know but it's right at the point when Kasuga offers Nakamura a contract and they start to walk down the path of edgyness.
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>>150558681
I've already read it but haven't seen the anime yet so I was curious, thanks though.
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I fucking love this show.
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>>150540660
>I absolutely don't understand all the hate this show got.
Hate outside of /a/ or Hate from here.
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>mfw plebs trying to talk about Aku no Hana without analyzing The flowers of evil by Charles Baudelaire.
You're missing so much.
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>>150562808
I've honestly just amazon'd the Baudelaire and the bluray. On epidsode 9 this is crazy
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>>150541409
Idolmaster was rotosco-

Oh.

That is some animation.
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>>150540660
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>>150552684
>covering most of her face
seems about right
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>>150545824
>we could have gotten Crazy Rei and repainted her hair blue to make funny pictures
>instead we got this
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Has anyone ITT read the manga?

That last chapter gutted me.
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>>150563372
I did. Kasuga NTRing that guy was hilarious. And he wasn't even a bad boyfriend.
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>>150563372
What's your interpretation of the ending? I have to say I found it a little ambiguous, but beautifully done.
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As a contrarian I'd like to defend Aku no Hana, but man is it slow.
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>>150563446
The slowness is almost part of its appeal, though even as a fan of the show I acknowledge it's a very niche appeal.
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>>150563417
Tokiwa was kind of a bad girlfriend for settling for him while refusing to actually reveal herself to him. But that's all part of being young, I guess.

>>150563440
Sawa clearly had a very pronounced schizotypal disorder, possibly combined with a whole host of other personality disorders. It's just sad. It took her a really long time to receive proper treatment.
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>try to make their cartoons more realistically represent the appearance of real people
>It looks like complete fucking horrible ass

kekitus maximus desu. I could've told them that
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>>150563490
I definitely got that one, but I was wondering more about Kasuga and the book, and the author's intentions in ending the entire manga with Nakamura's PoV. I do like endings that don't wrap it all up neatly, but I feel like I missed something in there. Maybe I'm just slow.
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Free man ! the sea is to thee ever dear !
The sea is thy mirror, thou regardest thy soul
In its mighteous waves that unendingly roll,
And thy spirit is yet not a chasm less drear.

Thou delight'st to plunge deep in thine image down ;
Thou tak'st it with eyes and with arms in embrace,
And at times thine own inward voice would'st efface
With the sound of its savage ungovernable moan.

You are both of you, sombre, secretive and deep :
Oh mortal, thy depths are foraye unexplored,
Oh sea no one knoweth thy dazzling hoard,
You both are so jealous your secrets to keep !

And endless ages have wandered by,
Yet still without pity or mercy you fight,
So mighty in plunder and death your delight :
Oh wrestlers ! so constant in enmity !
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>>150540875
I didn't end up watching it but the trailer for Kowabon looked infinitely better than Aku no Potatoes.
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>>150563541
I don't think you did. It's just a really sad ending about a young, mentally ill person finally finding some light in her life in the form of another young person sniffing some girl's gym clothes. Of course, that young man eventually becomes totally dependent on her and he becomes absorbed in her mental illness.
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It's a shitty rotoscoped dorama. Get over it and read manga.
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>>150563633
Thanks for the perspective. I might reread it sometime soon. >>150563550 's connection also feels like it ties everything together a little. If only part two would actually happen.
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>>150563728
I wish there was more porn, the artist made me want to see Nakamura naked
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>>150541081
good god theyre fat.
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>>150540660
>relistic
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You who, like the stab of a knife,
Entered my plaintive heart;
You who, strong as a herd
Of demons, came, ardent and adorned,
To make your bed and your domain
Of my humiliated mind
— Infamous bitch to whom I'm bound
Like the convict to his chain,
Like the stubborn gambler to the game,
Like the drunkard to his wine,
Like the maggots to the corpse,
— Accurst, accurst be you!
I begged the swift poniard
To gain for me my liberty,
I asked perfidious poison
To give aid to my cowardice.
Alas! both poison and the knife
Contemptuously said to me:
"You do not deserve to be freed
From your accursed slavery,
Fool! — if from her domination
Our efforts could deliver you,
Your kisses would resuscitate
The cadaver of your vampire!"
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>>150552684
Asian here

She is a 6/10 at best
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>>150558453
I can almost believe it actually. Everybody wanted to stay the fuck away from it after the initial massive fucking shitstorm of the first episode happened.
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>>150546218
Actually looking at that I'd say the actress was spot-on. If this was a live-action production I'd say she's a great choice.

The rotoscoping ruined it.
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>>150545824
Because he's a hack than can only draw two faces.
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>>150541409
That looks fucking disgusting. It feels like im glancing at sentient life deep in space that I was never meant to see.
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>>150540660
>I absolutely don't understand all the hate this show got.
Rotoscoping ruined it. How the characters looked is one thing, but the movement never looked right. Having each new frame at an exact regular interval with a low framerate is a cheap and nasty way to do it; if it had a higher framerate or they made a more careful selection of which frames to use, it would have been better. But beyond that, there's lots wrong with it pacing and composition-wise, but I'd have to go watch it again to go into detail there, and fuck that.
>She's not supposed to be kawaii moe ~uguu type of character.
She never was in the manga.
>She's broken, socially inapt animal.
She always was in the manga.
>If she was as cute and charming as in manga, would she live a life as it showed?
Did we even read the same manga? She was never cute or charming.
>The director deeply understood that and actually had the balls to choose somewhat ugly girl to play her, while mangaka remained gutless pussy under the editors pressure.
The director didn't understand shit.
>This is one of the best and relistic series of the last two decades, prove me wrong.
Best? No fucking way. The manga is one of the best I've ever read, but the execution of the anime was terrible. Realistic, maybe, but realism in anime is something best done in moderation.
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>tfw just finished anime and read up to chapter 26
Fucking hell when is season 2, I need it!
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>>150540660
It was just really ugly. That was people's biggest gripe with it.
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>>150540732
>>150541409
Am I supposed to think this looks bad. The face looks perfectly fine, have seen way worse when normal animation has to cut corners. The animation in the wemb is smooth as fuck and there are a lot of subtle movements, and at no point do the characters look weird despite the moe character designs which is a pretty great achievement. They even made sure to animate the shadows so the characters stand less out from the background.
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>>150541409
holy fuck they even fucked up the character's proportions
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>>150540952
>40 year old fatfucks
Nice projection you got there. Try 16-25.
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Should I start with the manga or the anime?
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>>150540660
If she's so ugly, why do I want her to sit on top of me and spit in my mouth?
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>>150540660
Go look for the actors. The girl was cute for a 3D, as well as the dude's crush. The rotoscoping was just terribly done.
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Can someone tell me why at the end of episode 13 when the big flashback sequence starts, we see things that didn't happen? Like with her carrying the bat or the bloody legs.

Haven't read the manga yet but I'm assuming that's going to be in part 2 if it ever gets one.
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>>150573371
It's not flashbacks, it's telling you what happens later.
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>>150573567
I figured it was foreshadowing. Guess I'll be starting the manga then
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>>150573612
Do that. A second season is pretty much guaranteed to never happen.
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something something potatoes
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Is there any point in watching this if I've already read the manga?
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>>150573708
Yes.
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>>150573243
Seconding this. She was hot as fuck and would've been wild in the sack
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>>150574066
>wanting to stick your dick in crazy
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>>150574147
>not wanting to stick your dick in crazy
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>tfw I didn't even realize my seiyuufu was in this until like episode 6 when I looked up the voices

She doesn't look like Yoko at all
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>>150573708
No
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>>150574305
The rotoscoping is pretty cool. Anyone who says it's bad are the same people who think anything pre digital looks "too old".
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What would you do in this situation?
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>>150545824
Manga looks like absolute shit. Anime looks too 3dpd, but still better
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>>150540660
This series is complete shit in both manga and anime form. Just a poor man's Oyasumi Punpun.
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>>150540660
Anime was fine, they did the classroom scene a whole lot better too

Boku wa Mari is his better work though.
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>that long scene after they leave the trashed classroom when they're just walking home holding hands

My heart couldn't take it
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>>150576859
That scene went on a little too long for me, it would have had just as much emotional I pact if they had shortened it or made then walk at a normal pace
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>>150577037
Time was probably moving extremely slow for them, I guess it was to put it in their perspective.
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>>150564203
Asian 6/10 is like a Euro 9/10 or an American notblacked/10
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>>150542118
My brother of excellent taste
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Why did the MC allow himself to be blackmailed with no proof instead of just telling her to fuck off? I could never get past that.
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>>150540660
I harbor a deep hatred for people that do things differently for the sake of doing things differently when it's obvious that they suck.

They're just taking the easy way to be praised for their "originality" when in reality it has been tried before but they realized it was a failure, and that's the real reason you don't see that shit around.

The most hateful part is that sometimes that works, because of retard hipsters. Luckily it wasn't the case with Aku no Hana.
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>>150578571
Geez I don't know anon, probably because he's in love with her.
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>>150574787
>yes
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>>150564108
>>150563550
This manga truly was a flower of evilâ„¢
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>this entire show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNYap_KtQW8&list=PLt4HhO3hibz232nXlHNJlZJQjzWCp6MgA&index=7
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>>150546218
>Visuals were okay
See >>150563296
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>>150542626
That only makes you more of a faggot.
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They should have just made it live action if they were going to do this shitty rotoscoping job.

Also, MC should have gone for it with Saeki. If a girl rapes you then rape her right back.
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>>150580287
>MC should have gone for it with Saeki
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>>150581434
>cute girl tries raping you
>not just sitting there and enjoying it
Fag
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>>150582079
Just because he's gay doesn't mean he needs to go for worst girl
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>>150582470
If she wants you dick so bad she literally starts putting it in herself, there's no point in telling her to stop. At that point "going for it" just means not acting.
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>>150579524
I'd have gone with this myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkzRNyygfk
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>>150583687
>radiohead

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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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