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The soundtrack gets better every episode.
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>>150484787
That point doesn't refute the fact that the soundtrack gets better every episode.
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>>150484746
Wat. It's the same music for every action scene. They're probably doing the flip-flap of one good episode-one bad episode because you would notice they only have one track to play.
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>>150484787
Name a show with good animation and characters. Bonus if from this season.
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>>150484855
It was an entirely different and new song in that scene.
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>>150484888


There aren't any. 2016 is a vacuum.
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>>150484933
What about older ones?
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>>150484888
Flip Flappers.
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>>150484746
As expected from AOTY
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>>150485012


>FLCL

>Kill La Kill

>Vandread
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I have a request, can someone make this an animated version? I need the jazz-hands.
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>>150485071
FLCL was awesome, but I can't bring myself to rewatch 4:3 shows.

KLK was incredibly boring and the charcters were annoyingly over the top. Maybe it get's better after ep 3.

Never seen Vandread.
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>>150484262
>calling Cocona 'clingy'

Explain yourself. Right here, right now.
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>>150485071
I think this post might be bait.
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>>150485292


>doesn't agree with my opinion

>might be bait

K
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Since when did Cocona have that fragment lodged inside her thigh? I don't remember that part
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>>150484787
It's okay anon, flip flappers isn't popular, you don't have to hate it.
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>>150485353


Popular, unpopular. I can't stand it.
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>>150485349
Since forever probably.
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>>150485291
She's not really clingy, but she's ridiculously attached to Papika.

[spoler]Dat introverted feeling-- standoffish until a connection is made, then never wants to leave. Thank god people grow up. [/spoiler]
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>>150485381
MBTI-kun, is it true that ENFJ girls "manipulate everyone into falling in love with them, then breaks their heart"
If so, bad Sayuri
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>>150485349
Was shown since episode 1.
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>>150485349
Where were you the whole time?
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>>150485411
Nagino Asukara is my favourite girl
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>>150485349
You should watch the anime. If you're constantly refreshing /a/ while 'watching' you're going to miss details
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>>150485381
>ridiculously attached to Papika.
They've probably visited dozens of PI worlds together and escaped death together as many times. That's more than enough to get attached to someone.
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>>150483807
>Yayaka is an INTJ
Fuck, I don't want to like her even more, now that she's dead.
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>>150485425
>>150485470
What can I say, I honestly don't remember. Guess I have ADD or other brain problems
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>>150485411
Anyone can be an dick hole anon.

Would it be easier for someone with Fe/Ni at the top of their function stack? Yes, actually.

Fe is more fickle than Fi. If your immediate needs aren't being met, Fe is the function that will encourage you to jump ship.

Ni is the function of keikakus. So yeah, if an ENFJ wanted to manipulate someone into doing something, that's where it would happen.

But morality and cognitive functions are not the same thing. Fe isn't the thing in your psyche that loves, or feels guilt, or does any other emotion. It's just the function that assigns weight to it when making decisions. That's a very important distinction.

An Fe user can love you just as much as an Fi user.

Also, why the fuck are we talking about this? Sayuri is a fictional character-- she can be whatever you want.
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>>150485497
>liking INTJs
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>>150485544
>INTJs
Crunchy on the outside amai on the inside
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>>150485544
Female INTJs are incredible rare, they need to be protected and cherished.
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>>150485544
>>150485497
I'm kind of sorry I used those 4-letter codes now. The anon who criticized me for it was right.
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>>150485621
I was just trolling. Your posts about the functions are interesting and I learned a lot from them.
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>>150485621
Don't worry, I'm not taking this seriously. We can stop this if you want.

Or you start analizing all the Papikas of episode 7
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I posted it in the wrong thread.
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>>150485810
Thanks anon.
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>>150485411
Interesting angle we've got here
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>>150485888
What does this mean?
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>>150485948
Thicc legs.
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>>150485539
>Sayuri is a fictional character-- she can be whatever you want.
Including my girlfriend.
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>>150485259
>FLCL was awesome, but I can't bring myself to rewatch 4:3 shows.
Pleb.
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>>150484888
JoJo?

>>150484787
This.
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>>150484787
Thanks anon for making /a/ better place

M/a/GA
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>>150485621
It ALWAYS devolves into comparing horoscopes. Your posts were good though.
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>>150485374
This is not the thread for you my friend
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This show gets floppier every episode
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>>150485539
>Also, why the fuck are we talking about this? Sayuri is a fictional character-- she can be whatever you want.

D-don't get mad, MBTI-kun.
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>>150485976
Cocona is quite the opposite of THICC.
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>>150486014
>good animation
>JoJo?
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>>150486245

She's phat in all the right places.
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>>150486245
That's just a matter of perspective
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>>150484746
this scene's music still haven't beat the bgm of the eps 5 clock fight for me
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>>150484746
God-tier track. I replayed that scene over hundreds of times because of it.
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Why does Mimi wear the floating ring?
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>>150486999
>me browsing /a/ in my free time
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>>150487053
So she can float
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>>150487053
>mimi

it's Nyunyu you dummy
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>>150487079

It's foreshadowing.
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Welp, time to rewatch everything to search for more mirror images.
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nice
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>>150487079
>>150487108
Reminded me that we don't have underwater scene yet, right? And it is also related to the painting in school. There's really so many mystery unrevealed.
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>>150487152
Was this shot really necessary? Really?
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>>150487298
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>>150487354
That's a really nice shot.
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>>150485412
HNNG
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>>150487108
Why do they look like they got bukkake'd on?
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>>150487108
I want to flip their flaps
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>>150484888
Haikyuu and Mob.
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She has to be Asclepius member, right? She's quite tall, just like those doctors in Yayaka flashback.
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>>150487579
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>>150485497
>dead
At least wait until the next episode is over, faggot. Conclusions are to be cried over, not jumped to.
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>>150487603
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>>150487603
>faceless men
The doujins write themselves.
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>>150487665
>They stick strange tubes in you
I can't wait
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>>150487123
>That's pantsu
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>>150485033
Watch more anime, newfriend.
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>>150487777
In your case, I'm afraid those quads are dishonest. AOTY is a toss up between this and Keijo.
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>>150487803
>Keijo
Not even in top 3.

The only other competitors as far as I'm concerned are Rakguo and Flying Witch.
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>>150487579
But she told Yayaka to not stay and go home if sick so apparently not.
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>>150485497
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>>150487850
>Flying Witch
You and I are not reconciling that one. Flying Witch was a nuclear snorefest.
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>>150487907
you better fix the color of that dick
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Cocona's fat butt.
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>>150487777
>not putting aoty into your keyword filter
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>>150487452
Delete this.
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>>150488016
You were actually bothered enough to do that?
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>>150487863
'go home' probably means 'go on another mission'
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>>150488166
You're looking into this too much
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>>150487863

And her home is? She probably doesn't even have a family.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq-hvc2rjfY
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>>150488051
Seriously, look at the circled areas, don't tell me that's how water looks
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>>150488263
Would have been better if the colours weren't edited.
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>>150488419
My fault, sorry.
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>>150484888
Mob just last season.
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>>150484888
Mob is the only other clear contender for aoty imho.
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>>150488856
Mob had mediocre character writing at best though. People overrate it because it has any character work at all, unlike OPM.
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>>150488419
>Без имени-1.jpg
не придирайся
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What's her story?
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>>150489020
Единственная придирка к этой картинке у меня в штанах
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I... I wrote a song for Yuyu's ass.

You are my ass
My only ass
I want to bury my face between your cheeks
When skies are grey
You'll never know, Yuyu
How much I love your ass
Please don't hide it under a skirt

I hope she'll like it.
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>>150489064
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>>150489098

>not the improved version
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>>150489146
This really seems like some meme face.
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>>150489359
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>>150489098
>>150489185
>not psssh...amai na
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>>150489384
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>>150488992
I respectfully disagree. I hadn't have any exposure to OPM when I got into Mob Psycho so I had 0 expectations going in, and I still found the writing genuinely compelling (at least compelling enough to get me to start reading the mango as soon as I finished episode 5), especially in regards to Mob's relationship with his brother and Reigen.

To each their own, though.
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This Papika slaps you in the face, what do you do?
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>>150489516
There is SOMETHING to it, which is more than you can say about most of the battle shounen of its ilk. It's probably enough to make the OMG FIGHTS work for most people that aren't braindead enough to ask for nothing else.

It's nowhere near as good as the character writing in Flip Flappers though, for starters.
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>>150489528
That Papika would go well with a chicken mask.
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>>150489733
Is there a puppy mask for puppyka?
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OST when?
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>>150489091
You worked hard on this and it shows
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How would you ruin Flip Flappers?

>everyone gets boyfriends
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>>150489759
There's a dog mask.
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>>150489842
January 18
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I hope one of the twins dies and the other one goes haywire
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>>150489925
Even Dr.Salt?
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>>150489994
I ship him with Dr. Pepper
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>>150489528
Wait a minute, Papika isn't that much taller than Cocona.
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>>150489516
I mostly liked Mob100, it was fun and had high budget, vivid animation. However despite being well made its shonen origins were painfully showing and the hamfisted pacifist/"it's ok to be a wimp" message got really old by the end.

Flip Flappers has obviously a much lower budget and I'm not quite sure the director knows where he is going. But the settings are far more creative, the characters feel more genuine and until now the ride has been just as fun if not more. The only thing that could hamper FF is its ending, which remains unknown.
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>>150485470
But refreshing Flip Flapper threads while watching helps me understand half the shit that was going on. I didn't notice her being protective of her thigh scar until someone here pointed out her body language
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>>150490314
What's so hard to understand in Flip Flappers?
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>>150490409
The symbolism
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>>150490286
> the hamfisted pacifist/"it's ok to be a wimp" message got really old by the end

It's even worse than that, because in the end the actual message seemed to be more like "it's okay to be a pacifist if you are the most powerful being and can roflpwn everyone that steps to you instantly", which doesn't even make sense.
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>terrible season all around
>get desperate and start watching flip floppers
>it's shit

I mean really this shit makes no sense
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You vs the magical girl she tells you not to worry about
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>>150490475
It's important to distinguish the message and the humour, anon.
The joke was that Mob was that both a wimp and supernaturally strong.

The message was that he should never actually have to use those powers. If they'd just listened to Reigen and run away, they could have continued being peaceful wimps. They meddled with manchildren, which was the wrong thing to do and only ended in senseless violence.
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>>150490473
What's so hard in a dick?
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>>150490579
These are the important questions, anon.
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>>150490572
Then maybe don't write humor that contradicts your message. It's like ONE stumbled upon a good point for once and then had to shit all over it because all he knows to do is lame jokes about shounen manga tropes.
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>>150490473
Real talk. I think our symbolism are decreasing recently. I love that shit so much, unironically.
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>>150490286
The message of Mob is simply "be a good person". I don't know how you can get more sincere than that.
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>>150490572
>>150490648
Let's be honest, who the hell actually watches shonen for the message?

Especially since ONE's themes are usually so hamfisted and delivered by exaggerating the stupidity of the characters surrounding the protagonist. I really enjoyed Mob, but really for everything else besides its wisdom which shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place.
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>>150490737
So its wisdom is okay but its message isn't?
Huh?
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>>150490707
It's a fine message, it just irks me that people are suddenly praising this shit for being profound when it's a message you can get from fucking DBZ also.

Same goes for Boku no Hero Academia, incidentally. Much more so, in fact.
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>>150490790
I said I enjoyed it for everything except its wisdom/message.
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>>150490816
People like when shows suitable for children also have a message that's suitable for children.

We've had a lot of shounen lately that were just gratuitous fighting and violence with no real message other than "be born super special and you'll get a magical adventure that ends with you saving the world, getting married and having a child who will do it all over again." Ones that actually try to tell their reader something positive, even if it's rudimentary, stands out.
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>>150487053
>Stargate SG-1
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>>150485071
>Kill la Kill
>good animation
baitposter pls
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>>150490816
But those shows encourage hypermasculinity and Mob doesn't.
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so i'v watched all 9 episodes today
could somebody explain me the sense of this show?
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>>150490480
(You)
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>>150491179
please show me where one piece encourages hypermasculinity
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>>150491189
A little girl discover hot lesbian sex by going into other people's memories. There's also a cuck involved.
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>>150491179
Cocona learns how to deal with changes in her life brought on by puberty.
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>>150489643
>It's nowhere near as good as the character writing in Flip Flappers though, for starters.
I also disagree, but that's probably because I equally value both Mob and FliFla's seemingly diametrically opposed methods of telling their story and exploring their characters as well as the various ways in which they take advantage of the medium. I don't think the raw, visceral display of emotions proposed by the former is inherently inferior to the more subtle, polished and symbolism-heavy approach of the latter, especially when it pulls it off so well and manages to genuinely make me care about the characters and their struggles.
Cocona and Papika's adventures in Pure Illusion are a joy to watch and I definitely appreciate how the yuri subtext, Cocona's burgeoning feelings for Papika and her own personal conflicts are explored, but I do admit that I have a slight preference for the kind of work that can just grab me by the heart and make me really emotionally invested (like episode 6 did, which surprisingly enough wasn't even about the main girls). We'll see how the show handles its last few episodes, though.

tl;dr I really like both
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>>150491189
A girl and her dog take drugs, then her cat gets jealous and joins them.
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>>150491346
And the girl wants to fuck her dog.
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>>150491310
For me it's not so much about the method of storytelling (though I'd take FF there any day), nor is it about the "substance", "depth" or whatever you want to call it - they both have about the same amount of insight and they're both coming-of-age stories anyway.

It's just that I don't really care as much about Mob Psycho's story of a dude learning to deal with how super special he is than about Flip Flapper's story about fear of change. Flip Flappers feels relatable to me while Mob Psycho is just trying to find ways to say that chuuni is bad but you're actually a special snowflake after all.
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>Cocona is mad Papika never takes her feelings into consideration
But the whole time Cocona has never considered how Yayaka felt through all this. Cocona is just a big dumb flipocrite.
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>>150490560

Has anyone noticed that the amount of nori (seaweed sheets) on Papika's onigiri has been gradually increasing? In episode 2 it was completely white, in episode 9 it's completely wrapped in nori. What does it mean?
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>>150491514
Nori is delicious.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>150491514

My theory: it symbolizes recovering memories of Mimi. There will be a flashback of Mimi liking excessive amount of nori on her onigiris or something.
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>>150491514
Maybe there were too many ingredients in it so she needed to use more nori.
I wish I could eat some onigiri, they always look really fucking oishii.
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>>150491502
#justice4yayaka
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>>150491665
If Yayaka is gay how come she was upset here?
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>>150491665
Silly background.
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>>150491441
The difference is that Mob Psycho works better for actual 14 year olds (and it's written in a way to make sure no 14 year old misses the message either), while Flip Flappers is more an expression of nostalgia for adults and is written as such.

Also, Mob Psycho is about boys and Flip Flappers is about girls. This matters, though probably not as much as one might think (Euphonium is a story about girls wanting to be special, for instance).
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>>150490816
>it just irks me that people are suddenly praising this shit for being profound

Its not that its profound its that its well executed. They are using animation as best they can to tell the story visually, instead of long boring narrative dumps.

Combine that with good art, a solid story, some mystery, and lovable characters and you get a solid series.

Finally its going to have a beginning and an end, unlike a lot of shit anime that can go on forever. Finality is great especially if you do a tragic ending.
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>>150491676
Yayaka is only Coconasexual.
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>>150491676
She's not gay for Papika.
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>>150491744
>not gay for Papika

Not gay at all then, I guess.
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>>150491676
>rabid dog bites your hand
>not being upset
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I really hope we see a Yayaka henshin by the end of the series.
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>>150491441
I wasn't talking about depth or substance, mind you. Just that I enjoy both immensely for what they bring to the table, and that I'd give Mob the edge because I ultimately cared about the characers more (the siblings bit in particular hit very close to home), although I can understand why Cocona's one would find more grounded struggles more relatable.

I didn't get at all that "it's okay to be a chuuni" either (quite the contrary actually), but okay.
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>>150491765
She prefers the Coconass.
I reckon Papika's henshin costume is boner inducing, though.
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>>150491966
It's more like "it's okay to be special, but don't be chuuni about it". Which is like, yeah, you don't say Mob Psycho, to me.
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>>150491714
I think the fact that FliFla isn't just about girls but also and mostly about girls being in love while still being aimed at an otaku audience makes the comparison a bit difficult. I'd be curious to see more shows about girls growing up with a similarly supernatural twist to it that is primarly aimed at girls/women and isn't magical girl or Utena.
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Why is he so perfect?
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Dear mother in outer heaven. Today I made a friend. Her name is Cocona. She is very stupid and blushes a lot, but whenever I'm around her is so much fun! and she makes me feel fun down there. Is it love? I don't know, I just want to stay by her side forever!
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>>150491918
Better hope we see Yayaka in human form
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>>150492405
>literally trained to stalk Cocona her entire life

Fuck Yayaka.
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>>150492160
"stories about girls growing up with a magical twist" will just naturally gravitate towards mahou shoujo, in the same way that Mob Psycho and the like gravitate towards jump-type shounen. It's either mahou shoujo or onl mildly fantastical shoujo relationship drama ala Orange/whatever happens if Mari Okada writes a female protagonist (Anthem of the Heart is really good, probably the best version of Okada's one plot yet).
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>>150491665
i want to see more papiyaya interaction like this scene
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>>150492434
She was just a child who wanted a sense of belonging
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>>150492434
Don't mind if I do.
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>>150492405
>down there
Six feet under?
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>>150492405
>Dear mother in outer heaven

Yayaka is a child soldier adopted by Diamond Dogs, confirmed.
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>>150492434
Does Yayaka lives with her parents or will she live in the streets now because Asclepius doesn't support her anymore?
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>>150492653
Se will live with Sayuri.
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>>150492653
Obviously she'll have to live in Flip Flap now with the chuuni trio.

Also leader of the Asclepius was probably her father or something. Would've made perfect sense.
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>>150491714
Yet women enjoy Mob more than FlipFlap or Eupho. I don't understand them.
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>>150492682
I can see that happening.

>yfw Yayaka Boy was Sayuri's boyfriend all along
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>>150492711
You're a guy and you enjoy watching cute girls.
They're girls and they enjoy watching cute boys.
Can you solve this problem? 77% who try it get it wrong.
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>>150489528
Smile.
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>http://flipflappers.com/news/#161202
>Kiyotaka Oshiyama is gonna give a talk (2017) about production and world settings.
So this show is Oshiyama's general idea all along. Yuniko just helps with writing and it won't matter if she stopped working on it.
I've been wondering if I can attribute this show as 3hz's baby, but apparently Oshiyama is freelancer now and 3hz is not strong enough to be the producer of the show like what Trigger did for KLK.
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>>150492653
I think the Asclepius guy with the kind voice is her dad.
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>>150492711
That is not a mystery, Mob has suffering and shipping. Don't confuse fujos with women. Also Mob is very popular so obviously a greater absolute number of women would be into it, while Flip Flappers is rather obscure so only animation nerds and other assorted weirdos are into it, and those aren't generally female.
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>>150492825
Bless Oshiyama. He's done a great job so far.
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>>150492761
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>>150492825
Pretty much all directors are freelancers, and the ones that aren't are dudes like Imaishi who own/lead the studio.
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>>150492902
>tfw Mimi was Mimi all along

>captcha: calle calle
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>>150492653
Please have an episode where Yayaka and Papika have to live in the pipe together, PLEASE.

(i don't think we have the time for that and now I'm very sad)
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>>150492935
What the fuck is calle?
Half of my captchas have calle on it.
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>>150492980
Well. If Yayaka really joins Flip Flap now, she will have to learn how to minimize her impedance. Might not be as unlikely as we think.
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>>150492711
FliFla and Eupho isn't really aimed at women though. Or at least when I watch them I don't really feel like they are. Obviously, fujos would rather latch onto a series with high male shipping potential, but even beyonf'd the shipping there's quite a few battle/sport shounen out there that have had a sizable female fanbase (AoT, BnHA, KnB/HQ!!, hell even One Piece).
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>>150492825
Also the character designer/chief animation director and MAO going to be there.

I'll be sure to be looking out for any information from it on twitter/2ch.
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>>150493097
Shipping is just a more extreme form of "watching it for the pretty boys", which totally applies to all of those.

FliFla seems to be aimed at nobody in particular, and Eupho goes for a wide audience.
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This show would be better if they toned down the fanservice. Sexual symbolism is fine since it's a coming of age story, but there are a lot of gratuitous ass shots and general pointless nudity that serve no narrative purpose.
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>>150493267
Fuck off
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What happened to /a/? Why are there people arguing against "fan service" now? Are SJWs taking over the world?
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>>150493267
Go write your ANN review already, Chapman.
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>>150493267
I didn't find any gratuitous ass shots. There are ass shots but they are not gratuitous.
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>>150493267
Kill yourself.
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>>150493300
It was one autist, but then people realized it could get hen (You)'s
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>>150493314
They've shown an 11 year old's ass nearly every episode.

This simply isn't necessary .
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>>150493267
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post some music, convince me to pick up this
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Remember when that asshole puppy took your woman and peed on your carpet? you know what to do:
https://strawpoll.de/rfx55rb
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>>150493300
To like an anime you have to cry about how problematic it is first.

Anyway, I do understand disliking fanservice when it interrupts the seriousness of a scene or something. Like an anon said in another thread, for instance, if they had given us a panty shot of Cocona when Yayaka was about to cut her fragment out, that would've totally taken me out of the scene. Plenty of anime do this kind of thing and it's lame.

But out of every single fanservice scene in Flip Flappers, the only one that felt even slightly gratuitous was that butt shot of Cocona in episode 8, and that one gets an easy pass because of the genre of that episode. Otherwise it's perfectly sensible fanservice that doesn't get in the way of things at all (and in some cases even adds to the narrative. Papika doesn't take her clothes off for the audience, she's a feral child, etc.).
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>>150493460
Oh yes it is.
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Hahaha, another day, another Flip Flappers thinkpiece on Cunchyroll.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/12/03/feature-why-it-works-flip-flappers-fearful-symmetry

this one's actually pretty good
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>>150493488
I picked this show up last week purely because I happened upon the ed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjqCz12-TsQ
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>>150493460
It's anime, nothing about it is necessary. It could simply not exist and the world would be little different for it.
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>>150493536
>thinkpiece on Crunchyroll
Kill yourself.
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>>150493536
Fuck off already.
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>>150493488
How do you do when the OST isn't even out?
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>>150493536
>actually pretty good
no

But I'll accept it as a shillpiece if it gets FF more attention.
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Fuck yes.
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>>150493700
This whole episode was fucking orgasmic.
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>>150493055
>minimize her impedance
Why this line makes me feel so lewd now?
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>>150493758
I want that insert song.
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>>150493758
>GATTAI DA!
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>>150493781
Flip Flapping is a pretty lewd job.
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>>150493700
Just in case you stupid puppies ask for source. Whores, concubines.

https://twitter.com/binobinobi/status/804293818870702080
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>>150493789
KAGAITEKU FURIPU FURAPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
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>>150493809
>Papika, gattai da!
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>>150493700

I wish I could draw as good as this guy. I mean, he probably sketched this shit in like 5 minutes.
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>>150494051
DELET
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>>150494140
He's a key animator, I think him being good at drawing is not a surprise.
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How can Yayakat please the cocona if she's a lesbot now?
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>>150494140
Then sit your ass down and draw. He didn't get that good because he wished for it, he got that good because he worked for it.
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Such detail.
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>>150494276
Rapparu is pretty bad at drawing.
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>>150494140
Reduce your impedance and Do it, then we'll have some funny guy to tease.
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>>150494372
Looks like the storyboard is totally drawn digitally?
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>>150494372
That scene with the crosswalk at the bottom was nice.
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>>150494436
Rapparu's character drawings are wonky, but I don't agree that he's bad at drawing.
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>>150494636
His strength certainly isn't as a draftsman, like many web animators.
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>>150494436
You know who was bad at drawing

Niho. People are gonna defend that Birdy scene but it was garbo. I think he has gotten better in recent years though, which is the minimum you could ask from someone whose job is drawing.
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>>150494969
Shit taste
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As much as I enjoyed episode 9, I think a slightly better directing job could've improved it immensely. Mostly the ending.
>have Cocona put up more of a fight against Yayaka
>show the rockets hitting Yayaka squarely in the back as she protects Cocona with her pain being visible after each one
>rockets should actually do more damage than just leaving dust on the ground
>Cocona screaming after seeing Yayaka unconscious
>Toto actually wincing more in pain after getting hit by Papika, emphasizing the first time the twins have actually gotten damaged
And all these events should happen quickly along with a more frenzied camera so that the action feels more intense.
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>>150495136
We had a more hyperactive camera in 8 and then people complained they couldn't follow it.
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>>150495208
Not that I agreed with those people, but that was a mecha fight so it's different. A hyperactive camera actually makes sense when the main characters are in mortal peril against each other for probably the first time in the show.
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>>150495136
>have Cocona put up more of a fight against Yayaka
She didn't want to fight to begin with, she only defended the whole time.


>>150495208
If you actually watch the rocket scene in this episode it is pretty difficult to tell exactly what order things happen in I think.
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>>150495136
>>have Cocona put up more of a fight against Yayaka
Cocona didn't want to and that's fitting.
>>Cocona screaming after seeing Yayaka unconscious
She did?
>>Toto actually wincing more in pain
There is already blood. That's enough.
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>>150495136
meh ideas all around
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>>150495136
>>have Cocona put up more of a fight against Yayaka
That's a narrative choice more than a directing one. Cocona is supposed to not want to fight at all
>show the rockets hitting Yayaka squarely in the back as she protects Cocona with her pain being visible after each one
She blacked out instantly, rockets are explosions not daggers.
>Cocona screaming after seeing Yayaka unconscious
Unnecessary
>Toto actually wincing more in pain after getting hit by Papika, emphasizing the first time the twins have actually gotten damaged

What I think was a bit lacking was Papika's expression as she stood up against them. I would've liked a closer shot and a wilder more feral intimidating face.
The twins are like, emotionless cyborgs. Not smug pretend-stoics.
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>>150495136
I agree mostly with the third point. It was really weird to not see some visible damage from that. The second point I'd take but not necessary.
The first and fourth I don't think would be an improvement. It's not like Cocona wanted to fight against Yayaka. On the rockets bit, Cocona barely has time to be anything but shocked before Toto launches a second barrage and the facial expression was spot on. Her reaction after the twins leave was good too. The fifth one I think would be ok either way.
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Oddie, stop!
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Limited Edition DB: 131 days to go. Keep saving up, flappers.
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>>150495404
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>>150495136
>with a more frenzied camera
I hate nothing more in my action scenes than this.
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>>150495422
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>>150495390

Cocona's ass is insufficiently fat in this image.
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>>150495509
Even Yayaka's got her beat. What happened to her massive rump?

Cute artist though.
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>>150487508
>>150488856
>>150488950
>Mob
I dropped it after watching episode 1. I honestly couldn't stand what Bones did to ONE's artstyle, I don't know why. It has a totally different feel than the manga somehow.
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>>150495136
>I want more edgy scenes
Not against the idea it can be improved, but this is too direct and blatant. It doesn't sound flipflap at all.
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>>150495630
It does have a totally different feeling to the manga. That's not a bad thing.
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>>150495136
agree with pretty much all of this
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>>150495334
Smug pretend-stoics are exactly what the twins are, guy.
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>>150495779
No.
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It's going to be great when Cocona finally womans up and fights seriously. She hasn't had that proper warrior look to her eyes since episode 3, and has hardly participated in combat sincd then.
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>>150495630
You're missing out. It does some things a bit differently but it's a great adaptation, and it's pretty faithful to the manga's atmosphere overall.
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>>150495646
No, maybe not. But any ideas involving how action could be directed will likely sound much edgier on paper whereas on screen it occupies only a couple of seconds. The scene was fine anyway, I admit I'm nitpicking.
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4 episodes left and this shit is still going nowhere
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>>150495779
They aren't really smug though, and I doubt they pretend to be stoic: we don't even know if they're human.
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>>150495867
Not really. Cocona is the Shinji of anime. She's gonna start the 3rd impact while being absolutely mentally paralyzed.
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>>150495948
>going nowhere
I find it find of funny, but I also find it kind if sad. The episodes where they're flip flapping are the best we've ever had.
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>>150487941
Who said it was a dick? Scat is a thing you know?
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>>150495948

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't lose like every single fucking fight or not get their shit stolen but nope

Might as well not even transform
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>>150496109
They won 5 and 8
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What was the "Cocona"/"Papika" count for last episode?
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>>150496109
I quite like that they lose a lot. It keeps the feeling that something bad could actually happen to them alive and doesn't leave you with the feeling "oh they transformed fight over they are going to destroy them now".
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>Cockona
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>>150496217
>C 19
>P 7
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>>150495948
agreed, when is salt going to get off his lazy fucking ass and brandish his katana against the enemy base
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>>150496195
Papika was losing the fight, Cocona just rang a fucking bell.
They ended up being rescued by Yayaka.

They were losing in episode 8 and only won because Yayaka rescued them (again) and then helped them fight.
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>>150496109
Pro tip: narratively losing or winning fights doesn't matter.
The shards of Mimi have zero value until they're all together, for the plot it doesn't matter if it's the KKK or Dr Salt who achieves that.

And even if the Cocona and Papika team had managed to get most of the shards, they would all get stolen by the KKK in some surprise twist at the last minute to raise the stakes.
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>>150496301

Which is ridiculous because Yayaka seems to be reliant or her equipment while these two fucks have literal super powers and still lose
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>>150496109
They will have improved significantly when they leave Yayaka bootcamp.
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>>150495136
This is a shit idea overall except the third point. It's like a third rate soap opera that I complained back in episode 6. The writing in this episode is shit, but your idea is shit as well. It lacks subtlety and the slight deceitful tone FliFla has. The pacing would be all over the place, if they did what you said, because surely they had to add a lot more with their limited timeslot. Ideas are simpler to put down, but upon executions they always get complicated.
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>>150496377
Ep 10 preview shows the twins in what appears to be a hole in the wall of the FF HQ, I sure do wonder what that means.
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>>150496301
Yayaka was already team carry even when she wasn't in the goddam team.
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>>150496387
I don't know what I've been told
Yuyu's ass is mighty bold
Sound off: flip flap
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>>150496455
I want to stick my dick in Yuyu's hole in the wall.
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>>150496443
You do realize I was talking about literally five seconds within the episode? I'm not sure how subtlety applies when we're describing an action scene.
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>>150496455
It means their base has the worst security on the planet as far as bases with hidden elevator codes go.
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>>150496292
You want they find the big boss and beat him then save the whole world? This is a story about little girls who are curious about the big world. Knowing everything ruin the process of discovery and having fun.
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I just thought of a cool merch idea. Cocona mouse ass-pad. Either Infinite or some doujin circle should get on this, pronto.
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>>150493489
Why no Mimi?
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>>150496616
Maybe this is why the plot refuses to advance in a conventional way. If the KKK and Flip Flap HQ are really side by side neighbors, then going next door and fucking each other up would end the show in just two episodes.
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>>150495422
Good on you anon. I'm waiting till the ending just to make sure but I'll probably dump my dollarydoos into this too. Love this show far too much not to.
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>flip flappers isn't even relevant enough to have it's own dedicated shitposter

sad how bad things have gotten...
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It was probably an Inception reference, but the original motif for the tree wall is by this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kan%C5%8D_Sansetsu
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>>150489528
Source of art?
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>>150497306
Last thread.
I have an impression some drawfag did it just for a joke and it was too good to be just forgotten like that.
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>>150497207
we had one but we lost him
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Why is Cocona such a slut?

>Papika treats her like an important person and is kind to her
>Cocona to treat her like garbage
>Yaya abuses her and throws her away for her mission constantly
>Cocona constantly worries about her and cares about her well-being over Papika's
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>>150497569
Why are you so retarded?
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>>150497207
We had at least 3

If you consider memeposters shitposters then we had like 10
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What will her role be in the finale? So far she's not really had a purpose. Are we going to meet her family or boyfriend?
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>>150497721
She will serve everyone tea in the finale.
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>>150492902
GTFO fujoshit
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You should be able to solve this
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>>150497721
Side charc that has no meaning aside that as an assistant
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>>150497824
>hand holding
if they kissu, won't it overload the entire circuit? Shouldn't you maybe have some kind of a over-current cutoff in there?
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>>150497824
Why are we inputting 120VAC into an AND gate? That's a good way to break things.
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>>150497931
Kissu is a superconductor shorting the whole thing.
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>>150497931
>if they kissu, won't it overload the entire circuit

i assume the impedance would fall to zero and you get maximum PI
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>>150497938
Art is explosive.
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Are there any cute feet in this anime
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>>150498046
No.
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>>150498046
The feet are irrelevant and even actively bad sometimes
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>>150497569

>Cocona
>treating anyone like garbage

She's a kind girl who'd never hurt anybody.
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>>150498162
This is sad
Did it at least have any cute tickle scenes, asking for a friend
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>>150498009
Impedance response approaching infinite zero.
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>>150498046

Papika is barefoot most of the time.
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>>150498211
Except for her dead friend Yayaka.
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>>150498244
Dunno if cute but ep1 had a tickle-as-molestation scene

fairly lowkey though
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>>150498321
Or wearing flip flops.
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>>150498350
>flip flap
>wears flip flops
it's like poetry
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Describe this girl.
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>>150498350
>flip flap flip flop
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>>150484746
I've been reading threads on this anime since it started, not watching any of the episodes myself.
I still have no clue what this show is about.
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>>150498343
Papika also did a tickle attack on Yayaka in 6.
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>>150498563
Flip Flappers is an avant-garde post-modern helter-skelter aggregation of, more or less, discordant phantasmagorical acid trips laced with yuri fanservice in which all partaking female's breasts are no larger than A cups.
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>>150497824
>Alternating circuits mixed with digital circuits
im_going_retarded.jpg
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>>150498563
It's this generation's Phantom World.
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>>150498415
Papika's cute wife who she loves very dearly.
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>>150498563

Picked it up today to epiosde 9 and I still have no clue what this shit is about

I just watch it for the feets, cute girls and the lesboish scenes and it does not disappoint
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>>150498415
Papika's Girlfriend.
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>>150498563
Space Dandy with cute lesbian adventures.
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>>150498415
Mimi
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Guaranteed replies
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>>150498643
FlipFlappers is not as bad as Phantom World.
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>>150498563
It's the Kiznaiver of this season. Decent animation but shit tier writing, characters, and plot.
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>>150498707

Nah flip flop fanboy here they're both on par

In the sense that they will likely pick up in the last 2-3 episodes and then get canned
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>>150498671
>Picked it up today to epiosde 9 and I still have no clue what this shit is about

are you mentally retarded? serious question.

Its not a difficult to understand its about two girls and their relationship. That is the gist of the story.

All the personal illusion stuff is just a way to tell a story visually and provide a skeleton of a plot

The best advice I have seen is feel don't think. There is plenty for analysis when viewing but its best, at least the first time you see the ep, to relax and enjoy the emotional ride
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>>150498695
I really wish Space Dandy was as good as this, though. I really loved the setting and the characters.

except if it was this good it would have flopped.
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>>150498415
beautiful
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>>150498563
It's the best anime this year quite easily and one of the best of the decade so far.
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>>150498563
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>>150498327
Yayaka hurt her own self.
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>>150498415
NERD
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>it's not next thursday yet
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>>150498415
A dork.
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>>150498854
Dandy was better desu and it flopped regardless
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What is this expression meant to convey?
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>>150498854
Didn't it only get season 2 because Adult Swim threw money at it? I thought the nips hated it
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>>150499028
She spent to much time at a rave candy flipping
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>>150498415
NTRing whore

>people joking and meming all about how Yaya will be cucked
>ends up wanting to following Yaya and dissing Papika most of the time
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>>150499027
An episodic non linear adventure that was basically a love letter to Western media was never gonna succeed. This world isn't good enough for things like that to live.
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>>150499027
Dandy was boring desu.
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>>150498415

Pure sex
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>Ravish Cocona and blame PI influence
Even a puppy's smarter than yayaka.
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>>150499234
Papika is actually pretty unsexy tbqh.

She's sort of plain.
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>>150497306
Tumblr
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>>150485411
>bad Sayuri
Sayuri is a good girl!
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The Cocona vs Yayaka fight scene though, the timing on that shit was masterful, the flow of the landing of blows and the way it was matched to the background music worked perfectly.
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>>150499300
Not once transformed.
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>Yayaka: slow, skillful thrusts with impressive self-control, last long and can only cum once, but when she does she nuts a big messy load. 6.5 inches erected.
>Papika: faster, more instinctive thrusts with a lack of self-control, doesn't last long but can cum multiple times and go for many rounds, each load is medium in volume. 5 inches erected.

Which one does Cocona prefer? Or does she take both like a big girl?
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>>150499444
The storyboard is by Kotomi Deai, director of Rolling Girls. She's good with her visuals.
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>>150499444
Aside from the animation the only scene I thought was really well-done from that part was the YYK hesitating to cut the fragment part
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>>150499656
I thought it was established that Cocona was the one with the cock
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>>150499678
Well then you thought wrong.
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>>150499027
Dandy was more spotty in its quality. I loved most of it, but there were a couple episodes I wished didn't happen.

My favorite episode of Dandy is only equal with my favorite episodes of FF, where FF hasn't really had a bad episode (not even 7 imo).
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>>150499729
It was.
But there's nothing wrong with everyone having a cock.
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>>150498583
Wait, really? When? Did I miss this?
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Reminder that Cocona is a cross-dressing boy.
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>>150499656
FUCK OFF
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>>150499876
I hate you.
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>>150499767
Oshiyama's episode of Dandy > FF (and I like FF)
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>>150499819
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Reminder that Yayaka will become Bu-chan 2.0
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>>150499909
You're comparing a slice of an apple to an apple.
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>>150500000
You did that by comparing your favorite episodes of Dandy (an anthology) with your favorite episodes of FF (a serial, albeit with an episodic slant, narrative)
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I really hope this gets a season two, if feel like the story has yet to really start up and 4 episodes isn't enough to flesh it out. Or they could be going for a subtle story that connects all the episodes like space dandy which would be fine.
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I fucking love this artist.
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>>150500048
That anon wasn't me.

I didn't realize the plant episode was Oshiyama... That was the favorite one I mentioned.
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>>150500140
The plant episode is Choi's. Oshiyama's episode is the fishing one in S2.
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>>150500126
Why are all of their lines so messy?
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>>150499956
These sounds are notifications-tier
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>>150500168
Ah, I misread the table on the wiki. Still, he did the animation supervision on that one so I still feel vindicated.

The fishing episode was fucking amazing too.
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>>150500140
Plant = Oshiyama sakkan
Legend fish = Oshiyama solo (writer, director, guest CD, sakkan and sole KA). That episode is basically a short film made by him with minimal assistance
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>>150500182
because it's cute
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>>150500220
>notifications-tier
what does this even mean
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>>150499956
I thought she was just making autistic flying bird noises.
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>>150499678
I really enjoyed the breaking the memories bit and the transitions within the crystal dome or whatever it's made of had real good sense to them. I liked the ones that used parts of the walls themselves.
I didn't think the final kick was well done though. Not a fan of non-shaded eyes and the transition from focusing on the picture with Cocona and Papika felt too abrupt.
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>>150500000
Quints with the wisdom.

>>150500115
I hope it doesn't. Not having everything explained in the end would make me cherish this even more.
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>>150500182
I don't mind the messy lines. Their construction is very dynamic and they have a sense of perspective that's really difficult to do well, especially freeform like this.

I can imagine an amazingly awesome animation style based on this. It would squash and stretch, and it would impart a tremendous sense of momentum to the characters.
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>>150500265
>>150500126
Please link me.
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>>150500126
>>150500265
Is this the work of an autistic artist?
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>>150500376
No but you are an artist of autism.
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>>150500342
>I can imagine an amazingly awesome animation style based on this. It would squash and stretch, and it would impart a tremendous sense of momentum to the characters.

I could see it working well, especially if the animators go off model.
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>>150500342
squash and stretch with poor construction looks bad
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>>150500126
I really love their manga. 少女終末旅行 is great.

>>150500367
https://twitter.com/tkmiz
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>>150500447
Oh I already follow this artist! Awesome.
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>>150500447
>少女終末旅行 is great.
Let me guess-- I need to be able to read Japanese for it?
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>>150500342
I dunno, the line work just makes it look like a low effort mess to me, but I can see where you are coming from with regards to animation.
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>>150500342

Mob Psycho kinda looked like this.
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>>150500481
No, I think it's on batoto. Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou. Just used to writing it in japanese with the only person I ever talk to about it.
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>>150500493
I'm sure it's just a matter of taste, but their messy style and sense of perspective really work for me.

>>150500436
I can't argue with you and I don't care to because it's not something you can formulate an objective opinion from. I'll just say the proof is in the pudding: there are at least two people (counting me) posting in this thread in the last five minutes who are fans of the style, and I think the number is actually more like four.
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How did this show suddenly get so fucking good?
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Yayaka where she belongs.
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>ctrl+f "mob"
>24 results
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>>150497569
she's a masochist
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>>150500671
9 weeks is not sudden.
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>>150500671
It was always good.
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>>150500523
The Mob Psycho anime was solidified a ton compared to the manga in order to make it move.

A more apt comparison would be Yuasa's KA I'd say, but the thing is his animation doesn't actually squash&stretch or contain anything sophisticated like that in the movements. It's linear as hell, carried by sheer energy and composition

>>150500650
I don't dislike his art, but I'm not sure if it can be translated as-is into movement. Anmiating has its own particular quirks that differentiates it from static draftsmanship when it comes to what feels good or doesn't.
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>a single episode makes me like Yayaka Cockona more than Papika Cockona

Why is Papika so shit?
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>>150500757
Holy fuck

Vince Gilligan tier
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If this show was about cute girls designing video games it would be called MipMappers.
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>>150498563
Me neither but it's getting better and better
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>>150500671
They finally started with the plot and development for characters relevant in the show. Shame because it was too late, this episode should have been the 4th one to avoid the flip flopping.
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>>150500447
Where's my english release Jew Press? God damnit it's been like 2 months since they announced it.
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>>150500819
But it would have been meaningless by then.
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>>150500736
What about Shinya Ohira's animation on Fuujin Monogatari?
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>>150500819
Did you skip like 6 episodes?
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>>150500671
>suddenly
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>>150500819
This episode would have been pretty meaningless at the 4th episode. Papika and Cocona fighting would be sudden and nonsensical, Yayaka and Cocona would barely have a relationship and we wouldn't have seen Yayaka slowly and surely realise she cared more about Cocona than the cult.
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>>150500819
If they tried to make this drama in the 4th episode I'd have dropped it, I can barely connect as is

>>150500849
I presume you mean this scene https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/9047
The part I really like there is the close-up on her face which is like full-blown distortion (well all of it is but I don't think the rest of that clip is as pristine as the close-up). Not sure how close that is to the kind of animation/art we were talking about
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>>150500671
It's been great since the start anon. Where have you been?
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>>150500671
It's only going to get better from here since we're in the final stretch.
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>>150500771
BRAVO
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>>150500757
bravo
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>>150500741
Yayaka was always stealth best girl.
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>>150500984
The whole scene is drawn with rather messy (for anime) lines that have that wobbly quality. Not as messy as the previous artists though.
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Just flip my flap up senpai

>**1,855位/**1,855位 (***,458 pt) [*,**3予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [Blu-ray]
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>>150498636
this is the most melodic sentence I've ever read in my life
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>>150501094
>I posted it again!
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>>150501094

STOP IT JUST FUCKING STOP
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>>150501078
Well in general if you like that sort of thing you should watch Shin-chan and Chibi Maruko-Chan. Also Kizuna Ichigeki.

Less typically modern anime-y but similar general approach to drawing
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>>150498744
>It's the Kiznaiver of this season.
That bad, huh?

>>150501094
Its doing worse than kiznaiver and closer to bottom of the barrel stuff like memeyoiga
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>>150501094
Fuck off with your depressing numbers.
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>>150501094
So what exactly is it that doomed this series to obscurity?
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>>150501421
The first 6 or so episodes were shit. Since /a/ refuses to admit this of course they will never understand why.
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>>150501421
Nips shit taste. Easy and simple answer..
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>>150501421
no hook, no brand, no marketing

>>150501474
quality and financial succes are entirely unrelated so that's not a very good explanation regardless of your premise being true or not
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>>150501421

No marketing whatsoever. Most otaku in Japan literally don't know it exists, like pretty much all the artists I follow on Twitter.
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>>150501421
Zero pandering and no advertisement.
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>>150501474
1-3: Good
4-7: Shit (muh alzheimers being the record low)
8-9: Good

Basically a weak middle killed the flappers.
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>>150501354
I mean, hey, unlike kiznaiver it doesn't murder its gays in the fucking backstory.

jimmies kinda rustled about it
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>>150501421

Too complex for retards to understand
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>>150501273
I've watched pretty much all of the Shin-Chan movies that are available online subtitled and some Maruko but thats harder to find because of the whole not releasing on home video thing obviously.
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>>150487508
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>150501421
It's almost like it was made exclusively for us.
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>>150501540
I don't even know what kind of taste you'd have to have to think this.
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>>150501540
1 and 2 were fucking shit which already turned off most people with low tolerance for bullshit
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>>150487777
Fucking confirmed.
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>>150501474
>The first 6 or so episodes were shit.

Whatever drugs are flipping your flap please share. The first few eps were great, The second in particular was fantastic.

It have off a great alice in wonderland vibe, the series might have honestly been better if they took it in that direction and went more psychedelic and surreal.
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>>150501094
Here we go again
>plot sucks after writer change
>sakkan is web gen
>muh explosion
>muh yuniko
>is this really necessary
>amazon stalker
>visual storytelling worse than citizen kane
>not even top 3
>yuribait
>phantom world 2.0
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>>150501540
>>150501586
Fuck off.
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>>150501421
It was never that good though. Of course ASD manchildren will only say "b-b-but Japan has shit taste!" as if this mattered to something average made by a shit studio to sell like shit that it is.
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>>150501554
Not posting like a newfag must be too complex for you as well.
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>>150501540
6 is easily better than 8 and 9 and 5 is pretty good too.

>>150501586
I've found a newfound appreciation for 1 and 2 (and 4 to a lesser extent) because they worked in a mode that the show pretty much abandoned as it carried itself along. 9 has been probably the most direct, straightforward episode of all of them and I liked the more elliptical floaty tone of the beginning of the show.
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>>150487053
If you take it off, will she die?
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>tfw after it ends all the threads will die out and no one will remember it

hold me bros
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>>150501421
Sadly is not a very good show outside the animation
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>>150501623
>plot
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>>150501667

>doesn't realize only newfags call others newfags

Back to whatever shithole you crawled out of
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>>150501674
Better than what happened to madoka and threads of that show.
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>>150501674
I will make sure that people will remember, at least /a/ should remember. Already thinking about meme-able threads.
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>>150501602
>just add rainbow colors, people will eat it up and claim it's "artistic"

Even MAL has higher standards than retards like you
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>>150501533
If we know about it, do you seriously think people that browse futaba or are avid anime fans wouldn't know about it? This explanation never makes sense to me. Not many anime aside from the ones that come from the usual publishers get any marketing beyond a few posters here and there. Lack of marketing is not the only reason a show has low sales.
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>>150501674
It's a better fate than becoming the next Madoka, but happy with what we have now.
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>>150500819
>plot
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>>150501572
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>>150501779
At least I put my money where my mouth is. What about you?
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>>150501745
Stop baiting, you're fishing in empty waters. If you don't like the show, what are you doing here?
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>>150501728
Please make me laugh even more, newfag.
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>>150501812
people have to make their displeasure with other people talking about a show they don't like known, this shit will not stand
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>>150501811
On preorder from CDJapan. I really want to get the full collection from infinite but they don't let you cancel.
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>>150501812
He is right though.
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>>150501742
The only 2016 shows that will be remembered are Yuri on Ice, Mob Psycho and Re:Zero.

Flip Flappers will be talked about like Kyousou Giga is now.
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>>150501421
Style over substance + episodic shit = ded on arrival. See also: space blandy.
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>>150501861
This. Yuri on Ice is AOTY
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>>150492935
what's a captcha
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>>150501812
Please, replies to my shitposts on 4chan are the only thing keeping me from dying of loneliness and self hatred, I get laughed at by everyone when I'm in public so this is literally the only way I can survive.
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>>150501745
Whats wrong with colors? Its one of the few shows that take advantage of the medium.

It goes beyond the simple colors, the first two eps in particular played with illusion in reality like oil on a canvas.

Its not a new concept but it was executed well, it was a joy to watch, you feel emotions for the characters. It does a hell of a lot more, in less episodes, then most shit series with long dramatic speeches and cheap animation and art
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>>150500834
Learn your moon runes, anon.
I can't believe customs won't let my order with volume 4 through because I can't provide an English receipt. Fuckers.

>>150501669
I think I spent the whole show afraid of the plot kicking in since the atmosphere at the start of the show is what drew me in. Still think it's a shame that element has been decreasing, yet at this point I'm too invested in the characters not to enjoy the approach 9 took. I'd say it was the right call to bring that sort of thing up in the late game if they were going to.
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>Miss Sayuri, the gentleman over there offered you a drink
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>>150501877
>episodic
9 episodes in and you're still spewing this shit. Try harder.
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>>150501094
>>150501572

/Keijo/ here, we feel your pain, bros
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>>150501845
Sure, "he" might be right. But still, get the fuck out.
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>>150501877
Space Dandy, Kyosunigga, Phantom Sales.
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>>150501861
>Flip Flappers will be talked about like Kyousou Giga is now.
It's a shame, really. Kyousogiga (the TV version) was a really good show
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>>150501877
You really do have an agenda it seems.
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>>150501861
I can sort of understand the first two but why on earth edgy sao got so poplar?
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>>150501990
That agenda is collecting (You)s, so stop delivering.
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>>150501928
His posts are garbage because he doesn't actually make any points but this Youtube comments-tier response isn't any better. If you get buttmad about people giving your show flack then you don't belong here.
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>>150502000
twitter normalfags. Free on ice and mob shitco wont be remembered either, thats for sure. In before tumblr bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws
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>>150501927
/Hibikek 2/ here. Enjoying my possible 10k sale anime.
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Way to ruin the thread with sales talk again fagbags
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>>150502000
-It's an adaptation of an already popular ln
-Got major players backing it up, people thinking this doesn't matter are mega deluded
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>>150501623
everytime
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Flip Flappers is Princess Tutu 2, even down to selling poorly.
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>>150501755

That's like saying western anime fans all browse /a/. Only tiny number of people go to these boards. Japanese otaku only like what's popular, they go to Akiba and see Love Live everywhere and then buy it, even though it's shit. Fan artists only draw what's popular or flavor of the day meme shows, which is what gets them the most likes and reblogs.
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>>150500834
I'm glad this artist is becoming successful, at least in a tiny way.

I discovered them through a loli-doujin they did in like 2006. The non-porn parts were so comfy.
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>>150502124
It's also a basic schlock crowdpleaser with enough aromas of "subversion" for Serious Anime People to pretend they're not total suckers for liking it.
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>>150500741
I like Yayaka Papika more

slut doesn't deserve either of them
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>buu
>uub
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>>150486014
lol xd
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>>150502177
Are you sure that's the reason for FliFla's demise and not its shit plot and flat uninteresting characters? Sakugafags find this hard to believe but otaku don't buy anime based on the animation.
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>>150502257
>Are you sure that's the reason for FliFla's demise and not its shit plot and flat uninteresting characters?
Pretty sure. Source: Yuri on Ice is doing gangbusters.
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>>150500182
>Why are all of their lines so messy?

The word you're looking for is "gestural," and the basic goal is to give the sketch a sense of dynamism. You could think of it as focusing on rapidly capturing basic forms and lines of motion, at the expense of crisp detail.
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>>150491111
Dude, all of the "cheap" animation moments in Kill La Kill actually take more work than just cutting corners and covering it up like so many other fighting shows do.
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>>150502257

To judge the characters, people have to watch it in the first place. Which they don't. Among those who actually watch the show, it's very highly rated.
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>>150502257
>FliFla's demise
Is there actually any source on it bombing so hard that 3Hz will go out of business or something like this? Maybe making big bucks wasn't the purpose of this show.
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>>150502257
>shit plot and flat uninteresting characters

I would think a bunch of otaku would be able to relate to the emotional problems of little girls, I know I can. Both have the same amount of experience.

Bitching about the plot is like bitching about the plot in a SOL, its not important. Whats important is our characters growth and development, and they do an excellent job of showing us this, instead of only telling
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>>150502406
I have watched 5 episodes already and the characters are in fact very weak, definitely the worst part of the show.
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>>150502209
your writing style reminds me of someone
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>>150502430
>and they do an excellent job of showing us this, instead of only telling
We're talking about FliFla not Hibike
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>>150502459
(You)
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>>150502257
As opposed to the complex plot and nuanced characters of Love Live and KanColle, right?
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The denial from Flip Flapper fags reminds me a lot when Phantom World was airing and KyoAnus lickers were defending the garbage characters and pointless plot in every thread. It's fun watching these type of people delude themselves into thinking the whole world must be wrong, that their precious show has no faults.
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>>150502108
Why do you think people post stalkershit other than to ruin threads?
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>>150502495
>hibikek
>good storytelling
FUCKING KEK
Don't tell me you believe the drama for actual housewives that were the first four episodes was any good. It's fucking sugary soap opera levels of awful.
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>>150502637
Here is your (You). Now fuck off.
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So why did this thread suddenly get flooded with people being assmad about other people liking what they don't near bump limit?
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>>150502671
Better than the entirety of FliFla, it will sell 10 times more as well.
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>>150502403
Fuck off, Digibro. What's good in KLK is general aesthetic, not animation. Creative allocation of resources is certainly better than, for example, 1 ep of sakuga for 9 eps of shit, but it's nothing to be proud of in itself.

and this 'all those cheap shots actually required more effort than normal animation so it's a bold move by Trigger' stuff is total bullshit.

t. Imaishifag
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It's really nice of the shitposters to start when the thread's ending anyway. Thanks.
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>>150502693
The people that can articulate a coherent and well thought out opinion have already done so and now the threads are dominated by shitposting and circlejerking. This happens with anything that gets a decent amount of discussion on the board.
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>>150502719
Sasuga KyoAnifags.
This level of delusion is insane.

S2 is shit.
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>>150502693
Seeing as he/they never responded to my posts, which are the only relevant ones, it is probably just disingenuous trolling rather than genuine opinions.
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>>150502789
Circlejerking is infinitely preferable to crossthread "My favorite show is better than your favorite show" nonsense.
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>>150502814
S2 is not as good as S1, still better than FliFla though
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>>150502849
It's more something in the likes of "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T " by crossboarders who do that just because they hate anything remotely yuri related.
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>>150502820
Some people come here just to artificially validate their point of view, nothing we can do about it

>>150502878
I think Kumiko's VA got considerably less convincing this season, I miss her random sound effects

inb4 >it's character development
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>>150502849
Well yes but in a way the circlejerking attracts that nonsense because people can't just ignore things for some reason. It's troublesome that all it takes is a certain kind of person to see a certain kind of post to start the bickering.
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>>150502935
Lad, /v/ and /u/ love FliFla, what crossboarders are you talking about?
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>>150502459
I have watched all the episodes already and the characters are in fact very strong.
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>>150502878
S2 is 10 times more shit than S1, which is still very inferior to FliFla.
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>>150497207
>>150497207
>>150497207
>>150497207
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU FUCKER?
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>>150502935
That attitude was never something I understood about 4chan in general. Some people here seem to have a dire need to shit on people enjoying things they don't personally enjoy. Do I like YOI? No? Am I going to go to threads about YOI and shitpost constantly? No. What's the point other than (you)'s?

Also the vitriol some people have against /u/ content has always struck me as nonsensical.
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>>150503019
If it is that much inferior why is it more popular and selling more?
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>>150502978
>/v/ loves FliFla
what makes you say that?
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>>150502976
Oh I totally agree. Just look at crack-kun. His autism is triggered by some degree of circle jerking. I assume what happens here is just a lesser example of that.
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>>150503033
>Also the vitriol some people have against /u/ content has always struck me as nonsensical.
I always assumed they are christians.
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Once Flip Flappers finishes airing it will be hailed as one of the best anime ever by /a/. This is a fact.
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>>150503054
We've been over this. Nips have shit tastes.

>>150503094
I'm curious. Does YOI get the same type of anti /y/ shitposting as this does at times?
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>>150503054
popular != superior
You should know this.
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>150503054
>>>/mal/
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>>150503120
Not even top 3
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>>150503120
Your sir are absolutely correct
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>>150503094
>I always assumed they are christians.

What type of person do you have to be to get upset about drawings on a fucking image board.

It serves no point to get angry, even sage is a waste of time. Just ignore the threads you dislike. Self moderation is the only way to fly
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Friendly request to create only one FliFla thread after this is archived or even abstain from doing this entirely since the level of discussion really went down.
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>>150503120
I concur.
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>>150503022
For all we know he just set out to fill that gap on his own.
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>>150503133
>>150503132
>>150503054
>>150503019
>>150502878


As a neutral I believe Hibike's characterization and development are far superior to FliFla's. Plotwise we can't really compare them, the only thing it has over Hibike is the animation, though Hibike's designs are more detailed.
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>>150503132
YOI is too gay even for me. But I'll probably check out their threads, because I wanna know this now too.

>>150503182
>What type of person do you have to be to get upset about drawings on a fucking image board.
It only takes one or two samefagging the same shit every minute.
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>>150503054
>If it is that much inferior why is it more popular and selling more?
Uta no Prince-Sama > Dennou Coil confirmed
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>>150503244
>the only thing it has over Hibike is the animation
And it's not a boring Kyoani show.
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>>150503244
And I can state the opposite opinion and that is fine. But why come into a thread for FliFla and start spouting that opinion as if it means anything. I don't go into Hibikek threads and say "FliFla has superior characters/story ect." because it's pointless.
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>>150503244
Hibike's S2 rushed the fuck through the novels and made everyone one dimensional. The arc with oboe was flat out terrible. At least in FliFla there's little bits of shit everywhere that doesn't require a monologue like Hibike does.
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>>150503244
I couldn't watch Hibike. Even if I started playing it, I would just fall asleep before my monitor. I don't care at all about music and SOL anime is just too boring. Call me a pleb.
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>>150503244
>Hibike's characterization and development are far superior to FliFla
It would be weird if this wasn't the case since Hibike is grounded in reality and is on it's 2nd season while Flip Flappers is far more surreal and short term. The shows are so different it's absolutely insane to compare them in the first place.
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>>150503244
>low level soap opera characters crying to absolutely get a response from the viewer
It's shit. "HERE LOOK THERE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CRY BECAUSE IT'S SO SAD"
It's Nichijou-level of subtlety.
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>>150503244
Euphonium is disney XD-tier soap opera though.

If it wasn't a super pretty Kyoani anime and it was live-action instead, people would laugh at it nonstop.
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>>150503437
>If it wasn't a super pretty Kyoani anime and it was live-action instead, people would laugh at it nonstop.

Well, they just wouldn't talk about it ever and probably not know it exists. J-dramas of that caliber come out every day and nobody cares.
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>>150503120
It will be one of these obscure, but classic anime that you should see if you want to call yourself a true anime-fan.
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>>150503437
>>150503419
>>150503411
Human drama = soap opera according to /a/. And you're being very hypocrite since not too long ago FliFla also had a drama episode.
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>>150503411
>The shows are so different it's absolutely insane to compare them in the first place
Totally agree, I like both quite a bit but they really are apples and oranges.
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>>150503497
>J-dramas of that caliber come out every day and nobody cares.
Pretty much. And KyoAni has perfected the art of making anime that feels like a live action drama. Certainly impressive, but simply not for me.
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What does someone gain from trying to convince someone else not to like something? Really, what?
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>>150503120
It is my absolute privilege to announce how pleased I am of Kiyotaka Oshiyama's masterpiece, Flip Flappers. The enchanting tale of Cocona and Papika is a majestic classic that will sweep you off your feet. Combining the elements of mahou shoujo as well as the purest form of love, the pinnacle of Chinese cartoons is here. Anime has been saved. Doki doki suru!
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>>150503544
>3 posts = /a/

I didn't mention soap opera once in my post faggot. I just said Hibike is grounded in reality and that comparing a surreal show like Flip Flappers to it in the context of their character drama is absolutely retarded.
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Please save us, mods
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>>150503590
This show has barely anything to do with Mahou Shoujo.
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>>150503608
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>>150503691
Bu-chan is the cutest.
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>>150503802
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>>150503544
Euphonium isn't "human drama" whatever glorified quality you wanted to attribute to that

It's a soap opera, end of story. Soap operas can be enjoyable. But don't come at me talking about character nuance and subtlety of storytelling.
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>>150503608
What's his endgame?
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>>150503975
He just wants to molest cute girls.
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>>150503975
He'll get a cute girlfriend: Yayaborg.
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>>150503936
If Hibike is a soap opera then Flip Flopper is a Nick Jr. cartoon, end of story.
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>>150504044
Mate Hibike is a shit show nobody would even care about if it wasn't made by KyoAni.
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>>150504091
And flopper is a shit show nobody actually cares about, sad.
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Hibike is boringly beautiful and falls under category 'expected from KyoAni, nothing new here'. This where FlipFlappers win for sure
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>>150504122
Flip Flappers is far more discussed on /a/ than Hibike. Maybe you would be better off going back to wherever you come from?
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>>150504044
Okay? The dude came around to talk about Euphonium being "so sophisticated"

Flip Flappers is orders of magnitude above any Nick JR cartoon ever produced in terms of what you are comparing, just by craft. Euphonium, in terms of writing, isn't above Glee
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>>150504263
We've had a whole year to discuss Hibike and its spoilers, FliFlop will be forgotten as soon as the anime ends.
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>>150503927
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>>150504205
>beautiful
Photoshopped blurry backgrounds, re-used cuts, lens flare and chromatic aberrations don't even make it half as pretty as FliFla.
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>>150504315
If that's the story you want to tell yourself enjoy your delusion.
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>>150504315
Just like Hibikek.
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>>150504361
Right, boringly beautiful. That's what I said
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>>150504361
Flifla's simple designs make the show look like it was made by amateurs, as far as sakuga shows go, the animation isn't that good.
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>Hibike is so sophisticated that its fans spend time shitposting other threads instead of talking about their show

kek
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>>150504446
Flip Flappers is superior visually to Hibike in every aspect. From design aesthetic to backgrounds to animation. Hibike is by the numbers and safe where Flip Flappers is artistic, creative and daring.
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>>150504446
Dude I'm okay with you talking about stalker points and high school English, but please don't talk about animation. You aren't qualified.
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>150504446
>more sakuga than OPM
>"heh, it's subpar guys"
No more (You) for you. Perhaps that will get you out of here.
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>>150504342
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Bravo.
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>Hibikek shitposting pushed the thread to over 600 replies

Well played double agents.
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>>150504543
Their threads are dead as fuck so it is easy to get bored.
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>>150504592
OPM didn't even have that much sakuga. Mob Psycho, Space Dandy and Nichijou are the sakuga shows of the decade so far. FliFla is barely above Phantom World or OPM.
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I wanna flip my flaps all day long
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>>150504581
>>150504660
OPM is much more "sakuga" (in the sense of amount of flashy fight content) than FF, and Euphonium has better animation than both. Animation is kind of the only visual aspect where Euphonium is objectively superior, denying this just betrays your ignorance.
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>>150504660
Too bad two of those aren't as good as FliFla, isn't it?
Also
>no Dennou Coil
You're full of shit.
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>>150504733
>Euphonium has better animation than both
Literally no idea what you are talking about. Only notable scene in the show was mostly reused from last year.
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