Flip Flap Thread

Anyone have webm's of this last episode. I'm lazy

>>150437227
No, but the imagery of Cocona traveling through a birth canal and emerging from a sheltered, dark womb (her past life of lonely sequestration from the world) into a new, bright world (the world now that she has engaged with it through papika) was about as blatant as possible.

>>150437599
Are you agreeing with me?

Three different Flip Flap threads right now.

>>150437645
Papika's house would be the world outside the vagina, technically.

>>150437658
nice chatroom mentality

>>150437670
>the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>150437527
>>150437507
>>150437515
>three threads in 30 seconds

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>>150437670
DELET THIS

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What is KKk's end game? What is a Mimi?

>>150437670
I've wondered this since she first appeared in that outfit, but what, if anything, do the two tails symbolize?

>>150437711
They want to kill all black people

>>150437711
>>150429287

How does flifl/a/ feel about their show flopping hard?

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>>150437670
Shop them naked!

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>>150437599
This brings an interesting point I wanted to talk about.

Should we see Cocona entering into Papika's house through the obvious vagina tunnel to be representative of regression or progression?

In other words, is she overcoming her anxiety (spikes) to leave her old world and enter a new one, representing her growth as a character in gradually becoming more comfortable with leaving her shell?

Or is she fleeing from the unpleasant and scary world, escaping the responsibilities of burgeoning adulthood and the inevitability of change by metaphorically unbirthing (a common fruedian trope, by the way) that takes her back through the birth canal and into a warm, welcoming, safe and unchanging womb of juvenile whimsy?

I feel like the scene can be seen both ways. It's hard to not see Cocona entering Papika's little playden as escapism, since she's essentially leaving the real world behind to play in a childlike space of safety and comfort, but at the same time her prior identity was so passive and so repressed that any tendency to embrace her drives seems like a step into the world, even if it comes in the form of a pastel slumberparty.

Which way do you guys think Cocona passed through the birth canal here, in or out?

>>150437711
>Use the Direct Drive (rebuilt from the recovered shards of Mimi) to alter reality through Pure Illusion, likely with some intent of "curing" it in a twisted medical way
>One half of the original Direct Drive, the origin of the shards, Cocona's mother through her lover Dr. Salt, former Doctor of Asclepius

This was the first non-shit episode since 3, and even that crap Papika got BTFO. Shame it came way too late and now the flip flopping is unavoidable.

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>Started this anime since I saw some webms on /v/ and seemed like a comfy aventure anime/precure shoutout
>It actually is like a comfy aventure anime/precure shoutout for a while
>Then the alzheimer episode happened
>now this
NOONE TOLD ME I WOULD FEEL

>>150437817
Nice pasta

>>150437845
>sh-t
don't use vulgarity on 4chan.org

>>150437851
Fuck off.
>>>/v/

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Want to do something fun, oneechan?

>>150437894
Indeed, this is a Christian message board

>>150437817
Maybe it's meant to be a little of both, showing the ambiguity of her situation and what path to take, as this ambiguity of choices is one of the most defining characteristics of coming of age.

>>150437913
This is a flifla thread, we're all from /v/.

>>150437933
Tonight, Y/u/y/u/

>>150437762
bad, but $65 dollars for 2 episodes is too much

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>>150437933
Is being smug a requirement for joining the KKK?

>>150437845
I liked most of the episodes but I would have to say that there was a slant to the imagery and visual motifs that was present in episodes 1-4 (mostly 1, 2 and 4) and hasn't really been there since. I'd say that the show got visually more straightforward, or less open I guess. Even stuff like the color symbolism in 6 is way clearer and matter-of-fact compared with the spiky motifs, the sexual innuendo from episode 2 and the referential baggage

Not really saying it's wrong for the show to get more straightforward about itself when it gets closer to the plot stuff, but I liked the floaty charm of the early episodes and think it would be a bit more unique had they exploited it and built the whole narrative around it.

http://solitarybee.hatenablog.com/entry/2016/11/29/083907
>That Pepe post
Why you do this? you know aliens might be watching us too?

>pure jitter
>jitter
>slight irregular movement, variation, or unsteadiness, especially in an electrical signal or electronic device
Yayaka confirmed to turn into a robot?

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>>150437575
I'll try my best to repost.

>>150437913
Flip Flap threads are a combination of /v/ + /u/ anyways.

>>150437958
Will Nyunyu also make Cocona feel hot and bothered?

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>>150437982
Of course

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>>150438044
Thanks anon

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When she sees the Cockana.

>>150438047
Combination of /u/, sure but not /v/

The sakuga quantity kinda went down. Reminds me of Phantom World and how from episode 7-10 there wasn't much sakuga either.

>>150437951
>>150438047
Is this some joke I'm not getting? God how far this board has fallen.

>>150438022
>Cocona in the shadow
>Papika in the light
This is two people was the last moment of conversation as a friend.
Google translate never fails to make me laugh

>>150437851
>>150437951
>>150438047
Fuck off cancer >>>/v/

>>150438150
/v/ fags have been ruining /a/ for a while now. This is not a joke sadly

>>150438127
Why do they refer to Buu as he when the scientist said only girls can enter the PI?

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Why is she so perfect and smug?

>>150438194
>only girls can enter the PI?
When was this said?

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>>150438194
He might be an older model of the "twins".

>>150438194
That was more of a "only you girls" than "only girls" also buu actually speaks in episode 1, sounds like a guy.

>>150438022
>Great episode for Yayaka Cooks
>studio 3Hz has been authenticated as our brother.
>Abdomen is exposed? Very odious ......
I'm dying

I WANT YAYAKA TO WIN THE COCONA BOWL

So at this point we pretty much all agree this is better than Madoka, right?

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longer version.

>>150438175
Well this is a flifla thread, we're all cancer here. Kind of the Phantom World fanbase during winter, the ReZero fanbase of spring, or the Mob Psycho fanbase of summer.

>>150438085
>>150438139
>>150438183
please stop embarrassing my girlfriend. she doesn't appreciate it

>>150438194
>only girls can enter the PI
Then explain Toto.

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>>150438261

>>150438207
Why is she so dead?

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>>150438285
>>>/irc/

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Anyone else fucking LOVE this shot? Whenever I see it crop up in a thread I just have to stare at it for a while, it's perfect.

The face being obscured by a typical worker cap, coupled with the glowing bluescreen and the lighting on the guy's front give him a really old-school vibe. The little glimpse of the muted, orange sky creates a great bit of contrast with the mostly darker bushes on the background and the near-black vertical edges on both edges of the screen give the picture sort of a 4:3 feel. Like the guy is hiddden, and also trapped, but you can still grasp freedom from the bit of sky. The overall color palette gives a super nostalgic feeling too, you know, because this whole area and dude are clearly related to the past and to the 'loss' of someone

It's basically vaporwave without feeling like it was specifically manufactured to evoke vaporwave. I love it, easily the best part of that episode.

>>150438285
Stop trying to justify your presence here, you are one or two /v/fags who happen to be in this specific thread. Nothing about this show's discussion base on this board had anything to do with /v/ until you brought it up.

>>150438274
Aers disagrees

>>150438285
Don't compare us to Phantom World please

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>>150438261
>Yayaka wakes up

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>>150438328
the way he's wearing his hat it would be impossible for him to see his screen

>>150438345
Both shows, threads and followers are very similar, it's hard not to compare. You might not see it but it's very clear from an outsider point of view.

>>150437711
delete this red-pill

t. cat

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>>150438274
Still hasn't had its madoka ep 10 yet.

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>>150438328
This is a very sub-par shot, especially for FF

>>150438374
he probably tipped it down in sadness after his computer crashed and he lost all the work he had been doing

so have the Flip Flappers even won a single battle without the Spandex Twins basically rescuing their asses?

>>150438429
Nah

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Yayaka, what's 3P?

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>>150437110
It's young Papika, obscured to hide her identity. Jacket is the same in the flashbacks, and now it's a bit too small for her.

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>>150438466
It's were Papika watches and I have fun with Cocona.

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>>150438395
Kinda reminds me of this

>>150438434
Not really. Cocona and Papika are pretty shit fighters. I think the only thing they managed to beat themselves was the Spider in Iroha's PI.

>>150438501
>phantom shit

kys

>>150438484
Yeah the hairstyle is pretty similar.

It's either that or Mimi I'd say, but Mimi doesn't fit the figure in the OP as well as short-haired Papika.

>>150438524
>kys

That's /v/ speak, I guess it's normal here since we're all from /v/

>>150438508
that big eye covered thing? it got blown up by rockets while they were fighting it.

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>>150438501
Did Iroha's episode remind you of this?

>>150438328
It's just a dude wearing a hat

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>>150437731

Fuck off with these Generals

>>150438328
He kind of looks like the main character of Watch Dogs

>>150438508
I blame Cocona for that.
The tank is basically doing all the work while Cocona, the only one with a real weapon, spectates. She hasn't actually contributed to combat since episode 3

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>>150437817
Interesting too that she eventually rejects that escapism.

>>150437817
It's a metaphor for Cocona discovering hot lesbian sex.

>>150438594
Fuck off.

>>150438707
Calm down, we all play vidya in this flifla thread, I mean it's a well known fact that this show is very popular among /v/ anons.

>>150438707
Woah calm down dude I hate video games too, up top my brother.

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>>150438750
I don't like this new kind of shitposting.
Go back to posting >Cockona or something.

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Phantom World was also popular on /v/.

Yuuri is mimi

I learned the secret to theorize on Flip Flap just associate as many things to vaginas and dicks as possible

I thought that guy in the op was young Salto. The idea of Papika having an affair with mother and daughter makes me look at her with dissapointing eyes.

sorry for being lazy but does anyone want to tell me the episode cocona didn't want to eat the carrots?

>>150438395
>you can pinpoint the moment Yayaka's heart breaks in two

This was the best episode yet.

>>150438855
They are phalic

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>ED portrays Hansel and Gretel
>story about a brother and sister
Could Cocona and Papika be blood-related, Cocona being the brother and Papika the sister?
The scar on Cocona's thigh could represent the tests conducted on her, which may include surgery (castration). In other words, Cocona is a cross-dresser.

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>>150438864
>That moment where Yayaka tosses the ice badge to protect her friend Cocona

>>150438876
Nah, they show Papika as the boy

>>150438876
Penises aren't located on the thigh.

>>150438855
Cocona's vision of hell has her eating a pile of carrots while having to watch Papika starve.

>>150438872
not really the answer i was looking for, i guess i'll scan through them all

>>150438898
>after disabling both Papika and Cocona
She's an idiot.

Why did hoverboard come back?

>>150439026
Episode 7 in the nurse's office Yayaka says deep PI is hell and in Cocona's imagination she has a bunch of carrots on a plate while Papika has nothing. There are other various forms of torture as well.

>>150438838
I'm gonna explain something real quick.

Prior to the 20th century, literary theory was rigid and lockstep. Metaphors were a precise language, A meant B, always meant B and only meant B. If the house was red, it was red because red meant X. If you said that red could mean Y, you were wrong.

Freud is remembered primarily because he came along and blew that wide open. He wasn't the first or only, mind you, but his work stuck. I'm not talking about his stuff on Psychiatry, either. Many people don;t know much about Freud outside "your mother's penis, ja" but he was an avid literary critic and theorist. Why he's still relevant today is that his work basically invented a whole new language of A=C back in a time when A=B and only B. He essentially established a lexicon of symbols used in universally recognizable patterns to represent elements of a fictional character's thoughts, feelings, emotions and underpinning irrational tendencies (fears, passions, etc)

An easy comparison to make would be flower language. When you see a kind of flower featured prominently in an anime shot, you can google the name of the flower and immediately get a list of what it represents. Freud did that various symbols. The important part isnt that he was right (because he probably wasn't) but that his work was influential, and authors USE the relations of ideas that Freud set out in order to express things to their audience indirectly.

When you look at a work through a Freudian lens, you are basically looking for images that have concrete, 1:1 symbolic meanings. A penis in Freud isn't a penis, it;s not about a male sex organ that feels good, the fact of a penis is completely irrelevant. Instead, a penis and anything penis-like (phallic objects) represent something totally divorced from male sexual reproduction, which Freud just so happened to claim were represented by the image of the penis. It's a tool that can be used to signify something indirectly. Genitals are just symbols.

>people outside of these threads keep saying this show isn't yuri
>mfw I look into this thread
Who was in the wrong here?

>>150439097
It built a raft.

>>150439050
mimi

>>150438284
Climax afterglow?

>>150438295
reverse trap

>>150439146
Most likely the ones who aren't watching the show.

>>150439097
It was easily replaceable, just like cocona

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>>150439167

>>150438295
Toto is totolly a girl.

>>150439097
desu ex machina

>>150439264
>>150439167
Did anon post his name counts for this ep? I was gone for 10 hours and now have four full threads to read thanks to you flaps.

>>150439296
Toto is just a dog.

>toto
>cocona
>coco

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>Papika has just been overlaying her feelings and memories of Mimi on Cocona which is why she was so devoted from day 1 despite being strangers.
>Papika and Cocona relationship feels artificial which was Yayakas complaint in the episode and led to her redemption.

Damn I don't even know who is going to win or what they're going to say in the end. Is it a deconstruction of the contrived yuri genre?

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Why did the twins have zippers on their crotches?

>>150439369
To have sex when desired.

>>150439369
Japanese degeneracy.

>>150439367
>Papika has just been overlaying her feelings and memories of Mimi on Cocona
But she didn't remember Mimi until this ep, and she specifically said that it's Cocona that she loves after listing the things about Cocona that she loves.

>>150439097
>>150439314
It was probably never permanently gone. It might have an autonomous function or a tracking device and they just retrieved it off screen at some point. Papika hasn't had need of it between episodes 4 and 9 so it's not too strange that it's back.

>>150439427
Yeah but its obvious when shes calling here Mimi now that shes conflating the two heavily, and certainly in the early episodes she was just assuming it was her same partner Mimi. Now i guess the boring ending is they have a drama episode about it and resolve their differences and dumb as a plank Papika says "wtf I love cocona now" and they live happily ever after with Yayaka as left out tsundere third wheel.

But that ending just feels boring like the whole thing was a waste, I guess it depends how they do the back story in the next few episodes.

>>150439369
But wouldn't their flaps get caught in the zipper?

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>>150429705
Oh shit.
>you can meet Mimi if you come with us Papika

>>150439427
Not that guy, but Mimi and Cocona could be extremely similar to one another outside of the carrot thing.

>>150439477
>like the whole thing was a waste
Speak for yourself.

>>150439324
sorry i don't know how to count

>>150439535
It would certainly have been a grand adventure with fun and interesting characters and episodic set pieces, but it will lack any emotional punch if thats how it plays out. I know they were going for the mysterious slowly learn the plot angle but it has sort of sabotaged the likability of the leads relationship.

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>>150438855
>>150439019

>>150439477
She never thought Cocona was Mimi until the end of 8. She may have had some nagging feeling that Cocona was extremely similar to Mimi, but she always called her Cocona and never mentioned the name until episode 7.

But Papika can't marry two girls.

I'm happy they gave more personality to the twins. I really like them now. At least Yuyu is actually not a robot and totally intelligent enough to mess with Cocona and smirk. But that started in previous episodes with them questioning Yayaka.

>>150437817
>the obvious vagina tunnel
It looks like a butthole.

>>150439369
Why is he wearing the girl swimsuit

>>150439500
these two evil fucks are real tough war machines

>>150439594
Cocona's gonna get NTRd by mom.

>>150439591
She never mentioned the name but she basically acts like Cocona has been her friend for years starting with episode 1 despite them being strangers prior. They have developed a real relationship since but it the start and basis was Papika's delusion.

It was only revealed to us in episode 8 this was the explanation for the weird familiarity in episode 1 but that is the explanation they are certainly fielding .

>>150439584
Don't be such a downer, anon. We have nearly a month until the show ends.

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>>150439607
>evil
They're just doing they're job anon. The evil ones are Cocona and Papika who go around messing with people's memories and ruining them.

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>>150439584
If anons are right and this is Cocona's psyche speaking then we know that Cocona will get her girl in the end.

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>>150439639
I don't think Papika was "familiar" with Cocona in episode one

Remember that Papika in episode one was so unsocialized that she actually did not comprehend the idea that her actions might have negative consequences with other people. She learned in episode 2 that the consequences of her actions could harm others and that this would be bad, but had no conception of it prior.

She sought out Cocona entirely by smell, because she could smell the shard in Cocona's leg. The introduced herself not as someone already familiar with Cocona, but as someone who did not at the time understand the world as a place where it was possible for people to not love her and be as happy to meet her as she is to meet them.

>>150439019
ah, i see it now. around 3 minute into episode 7. thank you very much.

>>150439598
You should be asking why his sister has a puffy vulva and he has nothing.

>>150439787
sorry, meant to quote you as well >>150439111
for guiding me to the answer

I've made over 1000 shinto rituals and whatever wins this becomes canon:

https://strawpoll.de/rfx55rb

Friendly reminder that
>Mimi = Yui
>Salt = Gendo
>FlipFlap = NERV
>KKK = SEELE
>Hidaka = Fuyutsuki
>Sayuri = Maya
>Cocona = Shinji
>Papika = Kaworu
>PI = Eva
>Shards of Mimi = Core
>Deep PI = Beyond Great Depth
>Liberation of PI = Human Instrumentality Project
>KKK's endgame = Tang everyone
>Salt's endgame = Bring back his wife
>Get in the fucking PI = Get in the fucking robot

>>150439655
Her 11 year old tits are beautiful.

wtf, I love yayaka now

>>150438484
That picture is of Papika, but the one the linked post was referring to was clearly a younger Salt. Both of them were there when Mimi disintegrated/disappeared/whatever happened to her.

>>150439097
Everything in Flip Flap that they use is built by their mad scientist engineer on call, if he can rebuild Bu's body multiple times he can have built Papika another hoverboard when he found enough free time to.

>>150438136
>The sakuga quantity kinda went down.
If anything it went up this episode. Some of the earlier episodes like 4 or 5 only had 1 or 2 animation highlights in them while everything else was solid. This week had way more. Why am I even bothering to respond to a shitposter though.

>>150440163
>iib4 they put yayaka in a robo body

what the FUCK is a flip fapper?

>>150440169
Very cute.

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>>150440261

>>150439966
Hidaka is more Ritsuko (he designed and maintained the whole system)
Also, add the obvious Yayaka=Asuka, the tsundere, need to be accepted and belong, and angst over MC not returning her affections/advances make it pretty straightforward. And make the PI monsters/traps the Angels.

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Papika is so handsome

FLIP FAPPPPPPING

The background music from when Yayaka calls out Cocona is pretty awesome.

>only four episodes left

The current intensity better carry over the rest of the run. Anything less and I feel like it won't meet the highs we've set it up for.

>>150440235
Didn't you listen to the preview for the next episode, anon? Bu-chan gets a new friend.

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>>150438261
I mean it's pretty much being spoonfed to us. At this point it seems obvious that Papika is just an artificial form of escapism whereas Yayaka is undeniably best.

>>150440709
That's clearly uexkull

>>150440749
>didn't get lily imagery
Yayaka lost back on day 1.

I love how Cocona always sits back and does nothing about her supposed lesbian lover getting her shit kicked in by Yayaka and co. every episode.

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i wish salt was more of a character

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This shot from the scene where they're "running" makes it look like Yayaka's getting fucked offscreen.

webm when?

>>150440686
I made me cum desu.

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the whole show has been leading up to this shot
we can stop watching now

>>150439598
To be synchronized, since girls can't wear boy suits

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[sound]

>>150439598
>>150441010
Japan called him Schrodinger's Toto with regards to his penis.

>>150440819
>lily
>hackneyed symbol of forced relationships pointed out in the show itself

>>150441038
The perfect trap!

>>150441038
I'd schro his dinger, if you know what I mean.

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>>150440169

>>150441035
I'd like to see Cocona and Papika not jobbing in a battle for once.

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>>150441062
>forced relationships

Yeah, not like it's been hinted at all so far in the show or anything.

>>150441126
That was the point, that Yayaka didn't get lily symbolism

>>150441126
Symbol memes aside, we literally just got an entire episode showing how genuine their relationship is, my man. Contrasted with Papika being obsessed with Cocona literally because she thinks she's someone else.

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>>150441035

>>150441205
>she thinks she's someone else
This happens a single time at the end of episode 8. It's implied that she didn't have any memories of Mimi at all until episode 7.

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Some nice phone wallpapers pls?

>>150441291
her robot brain is breaking

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>>150441356

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>>150441356

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>>150441356

>>150441291
She didn't have the specific connection until then, but I'm pretty sure her immediate obsession out of nowhere saying how she needs Cocona to go to PI for no apparent reason etc makes it pretty blatant that she's been projecting mimi onto cocona the whole time.

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>>150441397
>>150441410
Isn't there an alternative version of this with different colours?

>>150441410
poor yayaka

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Cocona a shit.
Papika a shit.
Yayaka a shit.

>>150441205
The black is white up is down squad has arrived I see.

Yayaka only became friends with Cocona because the cult told her to, and prioritised her relationship with the cult higher then her relationship with Cocona up until the end of this episode. She would still prefer the cult if they had not thrown away her loyalty by asking her to commit violence on Cocona.

Meanwhile Papika showed that her mission and loyalty to FlipFlap was a distant secondary consideration compared to her love for Cocona.

>>150441462
The only other images with the FF I've seen are my original logo and the keep calm edit.

>>150441486
>The black is white up is down squad
>proceeds with as much if not more inference
nice 1

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>>150441488
Post them still, anon.

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>>150436944
hmm

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>>150441523
No, that's literally what happened in the episode.

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>>150441488
>the crappy keep calm edit
I used your logo.

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"I showed up four months ago and stole your girlfriend!"

"Ayy lmao why are you being such a cunt?"
-Papika "Thunderdog" Papikana

>>150441486
I'm pretty sure this is bait, but I'm gonna reply anyway.
>Yayaka only became friends with Cocona because the cult told her to
That interaction was blatantly the KKK exploiting a little girl's desire for friends. They obviously have their own motives for them being friends, but all they did was push her in the direction so quite obviously already wanted to go. Yayaka obviously doesn't know why they want them to be close, or even that they do at all.
>and prioritised her relationship with the cult higher then her relationship with Cocona up until the end of this episode
She's indoctrinated, but she's been fighting with her friendship with cocona vs that the entire time. She's fucked up missions for it. It's a struggle between the two.
>Meanwhile Papika showed that her mission and loyalty to FlipFlap was a distant secondary consideration compared to her love for Cocona.
You mean mimi. Pretty much every shred of "love" for cocona is residual feelings that she's just projecting onto her. It could have been literally anyone and the effect would have been the same.
>>150441630
If you really think that's actually what Yayaka thinks then you're literally autistic. It's not even subtext at this point.

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>>150441688
>Thunderdick

>>150441397
Nice, this one doesn't show your powerlevel too much.

>>150441249
can you do over the rainbow?

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>>150441688
>>150441723
>Handsome and charming
>Athletic and cheerful
>Carefree and get all the pussies

Is Papika a chad?

I want it to be next Thursday right now. The way new information always only slowly trickles down in this show is infuriating, not to mention characters for some reason seem to rarely talk about their surroundings let alone what they're feeling most of the time.

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>>150441793
>Has cute nerdy girlfriend
>Cucks childhood friend
>Isn't even trying

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>>150441697
We still don't know everything about the Mimi-Papika-Cocona thing, anon. Don't say it like you know it all.

>>150441697
You are making assumptions about Papika's feelings based on mere minutes of run time. You could be right that Papika doesn't actually care about Cocona but we don't know enough about Papika at this point in time to assume such a thing

>>150441688
I liked how she was blushing there. She has quite the lady boner for coconuts. Too bad yuribots marriage is forbidden.

>>150441697
>every shred of "love" for cocona
That's just some bs you're pushing with very thin evidence, when that evidence actually suggests that Papika's memories are just being messed with and we had other perfectly good reasons for Papika's initial attraction to Cocona.

Whereas the evidence for my claims were explicitly stated in this episode.

You can claim that Yayaka has come to love Cocona over the course of her mission, but the same can be said for Papika. You also have to deal with the fact that there has been no suggestion that Papika's relationship to Mimi was romantic. If it was a platonic or motherly relationship then your theory is btfo.

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>>150441846
Why is she such an alpha doggo?

FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP

>>150441793
>Chad
That would imply that Yayakat is some kind of beta nice guy. She's neither beta nor nice (nor a guy).

>>150441793
>REEEEEEEEEEE Poppychads get out of my Pure Illusion

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>>150441914
I'm here to steal your girl Yayacuck

>you now remember that Cocona used to wear glasses in the first few episodes.

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>>150441982
>Tch.

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>>150442024
They were cute

>>150441805
Drop it to end all this suffering.

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Cocona was actually Cocoa all along!

>>150439966
Then who is Rei?

>>150438022
>I will inform you of the fact that the rogue known as Cocona and Papica ruined this perfect girl just in case.

>>150442217
Papika is (Not) Rei.

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>>150441764
Yes

>>150441630
I can't believe you actually took the time to shop this image to make such an incorrect point

>>150441874
>You can claim that Yayaka has come to love Cocona over the course of her mission
But they were friends way before any of the PI stuff started. I agree that Papika loves "real" Cocona at this point, but her sudden extreme attraction to her is surely undeniably due to her messed up connection between her and mimi, so it's rooted in falsehood, whereas she's had a genuine friendship with Yayaka since childhood.

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>>150442414

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>actually hates carrots

>>150439500
>>150439655
Can anyone with paint skills cut off her bangs?

>>150442474
Her mission started when KKK sent her to become friends with "the target"
>due to her messed up connection between her and mimi
That is surely, undeniably, your assumption. It's possible, but there is no positive evidence to that effect.

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>>150442528
for what purpose

>>150442554
I hate it

>>150442478
Dude this entire interaction is like a by the books trope. Surely you've seen other stuff with indoctrination vs muh friendship. She's trying to convince herself that she's comitted to the cult but deep down she loves cocona more. It's literally sasuke and naruto tier.

>>150442553
Holy fuck Papika is a slut.

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>>150442566
Baka?

>>150442566
HE HATES IT

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>>150442527

I was pretty surprised when this turned out to be plot-relevant.

Imouto Papika also made soup with carrots for her. Which is before Papika even mentioned Mimi for the first time.

Grandma is a spy https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1480667902326.webm

>>150442572
I'll take it since despite all the homoerotic subtext, Sasuke and Naruto were just friends in the end.

Face it, if Yayaka was destined for Cocona, or truly loved her, she would have jumped ship long before she beat the shit out of her crush or agreed to knife her.

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>>150442636

>>150442572
then what tier are you? autism tier?

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>>150442636
>the exact same wheeling motion and sound
>exact same three phrases spoken in this order
>this is what cocona wakes up to every morning of her life

>>150442614
And the carrots were shaped in to lovehearts so she would eat them. Papino is the best.

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>>150442636
Jesus

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I don't think I'll ever be ready to see Papika suffer. These next few episodes are going to hurt. Hopefully it'll make the payoff at the end all the sweeter though.

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>>150442636

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>>150442733
Papika deserves to suffer.

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>>150442636

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>>150440749

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>>150442758
FUCK YOU

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>>150442733
The Papika suffering is going to get bad. Why is the world so cruel to such a cute doggo

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>>150442636

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>>150442758
Are you mad because of all that sexual frustration Yayaka?

>>150438418
Madoka 10 was the result of a lot of buildup. FF has been consistently top tier, and doesn't really need to blow it's load like that.

>>150439146
Yurifags are never right. They're just loud and annoying.

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>>150442803
Its cruel to give her a chance to grow. It's her turn to grow up and accept who she is and what she has. Only then can she truly love Cocona.

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>>150442636
MAKE IT STOP

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Was this also teeth symbolism? Yuyu looked pretty scary there.

>>150438387
>t.
You have to go back to >>>/pol/

>>150442961
Yuyu kowai.

>>150442853
Every endgame still needs strong emotional context, which is what that episode was. We don't have much of a reason to care about who or what Mimi is beyond just plot curiosity.

Not to say it won't happen though since FliFla started building the stakes this episode, but Homura's story was also really good and managed to put the whole series into perspective.

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>>150442636

Is Flip Flappers kino?

>>150442985
Yes, Homura's episode was a big emotional payoff, buy that series was very character oriented. FF has a lot going on that Madoka didn't, and it's handling it's climax just fine. Unless it really shits the bed, I don't how it's finish will be so bad that Madoka as a whole overtakes it.

>I'm paying 480€ for this
And I'm totally ok with it

>>150443036
certified papikino

>>150443089
I'm waiting till it's done to decide if I pull the trigger or not.

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>>150443089
>tfw poor

Good on you tho.

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>>150442636

>>150443089
I would join you in your endeavor but

>>150443137

This. If FliFla sticks the landing it will be my favorite show of all time and fuck it I'll buy the fucking infinity box set thing. Price be damned.

>>150443089
Same here. It'll flip but it won't flop, not on my watch.

>>150443058
Worst thing they can do at this point is just rip off Eva or do something safe instead of attempting to mindfuck us. It's been great so far but I just want that one big twist or catharsis that will leave its mark on the show. With four episodes to go though I'm not especially that worried.

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Have we solved this mystery yet?

>>150443236
If they've got something neat planned, in sure it's great. Twists for the sake of pure shock value can fuck off.

>>150442961
>teeth symbolism
That's what I thought at first, but it's probably not.

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>>150442636
>open in ten tabs at once

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>bars that separate Cocona and Papika
This shot was fucking amazing. There's definitely was a wall between them this episode and Cocona destroyed it.
I really like the symbolism in the show.

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>>150443383
You are a genius.

>>150443294
Shock value well-done (i.e. it actually, genuinely shocks the audience) is great.

Anything that makes you feel sensations while watching instead of defecting to externally induced anhedonia is great.

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>>150443413
This is still one of my favorite shots.

>>150443285
Yes, watch the episode.

>>150443446
Breaking form for cheap thrills isn't good. There's already a narrative and themes in place, now's not the time to throw then away for something that isn't built up. If it shocks at the expensive of pissing on what's been established up until now, it's shit.

>>150443593
What's cheap or 'not built up' is pretty subjective. I can think about a couple of things I felt weren't really built up properly in the show but almost everyone else in these threads disagrees.

We don't really know what the final established theme of the show will be yet, we can only guess at what's most likely and that guess is only based in previous experience with similar shows that sets our expectations ahead of time.

>>150443489
Cocona has the fluffiest hair, no wonder everyone wants her flaps.

>>150443487
what does it MEAN

>>150443652
It means good colors are pleasant

>NTR wins again in the latest episode

I didn't think this episode was very good and I can't explain why. There's nothing that I can point to that it really did wrong or poorly but I didn't enjoy watching nearly as much as the earlier ones.

>>150443593
Well granted. The best twists make sense in the realm of the story while being surprising at the same time. Either way they're obviously setting up for some sort of reveal, so if it's a good one it'll give us a new way to look at the whole show.

>>150443714
there weren't enough flashy colors for you

>>150443760
That honestly might have been it. The world they visited this time was just a boring white room, and so the only thing the episode really had to go on was characters, which are by far its weakest aspect.

>>150443714
I said it 3 posts above, pretty much everyone is going to disagree with me but I think Yayaka hasn't really been built up too well. Yeah the show has paid lip-service to her conflict a couple of times, but we never really understood WHY she had this emotional dilemma to begin with. So she's Cocona's friend, ok. She also works for the KKK, ok. The show naturally goes into her conflict over what to do and expects the viewer to accept this characterization without ever delving into Yayaka's plight.

Sure people assumed things and came up with theories, but that is very different from the material itself being satisfactory on its own. They only really went into Yayaka's mind during the middle of the fight in this episode, for a short direct flashback that explains her entire backstory in two scenes. Ah, now we kinda understand! Kinda, because it wasn't even that fleshed out, we are again left to assume things such as
-Yayaka must have been a lonely orphan or something along those lines for the KKK to have such an influence on her
-She really values her position on the KKK and wants to be loyal
-At the same time Cocona taking her as a friend made such a big impact on her that it got in the way

This was just a bit too much information at once for me to get emotionally invested in something I previously wasn't.

Then there's the handling of the ppk/ccn spat which I think doesn't fit with the yyk focus nor was it done interestingly enough to warrant being there.

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>>150442961
Absolutely, a mouth.

And I just noticed she wears a red ribbon on her neck similar to the girl in Cocona's dream who shouldn't be created out of nothing, and this kinda indicates Cocona did see that symbol somewhere before, maybe Yuyu or someone related to KKK wears the same ribbon too.
Furthermore, Yuyu tricked dumb Cocona (and me) into believing she reads lips and the fake PapiYaya conversation. Feels like she is more professional than Yayaka indeed.
These are all about creating illusions, and I come to be curious about the true dialog.

9 episodes in.

I still maintain that if Yayaka was a boy the show would've been better without changing anything important.

I keep hopping that her being a girl will be a plot item but nope.

>>150443863
Ya she'd still be the worst character.

>>150443863
fag

>>150443829
>Then there's the handling of the ppk/ccn spat which I think doesn't fit with the yyk focus nor was it done interestingly enough to warrant being there.

Especially since it didn't really progress at all between the end of last episode and this one. You could've stitched the post-credits scenes of the last two episodes together and lost absolutely nothing in the Mimi plot. The fact that it took an entire episode for Cocona to ask 'who's Mimi' is absurd, it should've been the first thing out of her mouth this episode.

>>150443927
It should've been the first thing out of her mouth at the end of 7 even.

But I can accept that the characters in Flip Flappers stop caring about stuff that happens to them at times, only for it to come back later. I was okay with 8 ending basically the same way as 7 except with an extra bit of info, but pulling that stunt again in 9 especially when the ending of 8 was supposed to be relevant to the interactions in this episode seems awkward.

>>150443961
It feels like the writers wanted to introduce the Mimi stuff early so that it wouldn't all come out of nowhere near the end of the series, but at the same time can't actually progress with it because it's the big endgame reveal and has to happen near the end of the show, so they're stuck in this holding pattern where they have to repeat scenes almost word for word across episodes to remind you that the subplot exists but not actually moving it forward in any way.

>>150443593
FliFla Euphinator equivalent when?

>>150443829
>we never really understood WHY she had this emotional dilemma to begin with
She's a teenage girl wrestling with her indoctrination into an alien cult and her feelings for her friend. Do you really need an episode of exposition where we see the fucking fated car crash her family died in and the parental but sinister hand the KKK extend? Wow bullied at school but Cocona is the only one who isn't put off by her big personality. 20 minute clip to shove into our face the feelings of inadequecy when the only place she's ever felt she belonged is jeprodized by newcomers in the twins. Fuck all that. Use your imagination a little.

>>150444043
Well we have yet to see what the material is for the last 4 episodes but I think that with how 8 ended, they could have made in 9 what is probably gonna be in 10; you would have to change things around, but to me it's either that or simply don't end 8 that way. It turns a cliffhanger portrayed in-show as a really big deal into a secondary, gaggy element of an episode that isn't even really focused on that. And now back to it again. How will Cocona have any reaction to the Mimi thing if 9 has her get over it in a heartbeat?

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>>150441356
What fucking phone you run?

LESBENIS :DDDD fug

>>150444078
This. It's not necessary for a story to spell out every little detail. I would've sympathized with Yayaka less if we had a hamhanded backstory pushed into our faces. The lighter touch they had from the beginning in showing us that she was close to Cocona, ambivalent towards Papika, and building up tension between her and the twins in episode 8 was enough.

>>150444078
> Use your imagination a little.

Anon, these are her fundamental character traits, she is one of the most important characters in the show, and we have had multiple scenes an episode for over half the series dedicated to them. You can use your imagination to fill in minor details or the little gaps around the edges, but you shouldn't need to use it for central story concepts. You could've shown everything that you just described in your post in under a minute with a well-done montage or even just throwing it up on the ice mirror things in the background during the fight this episode. It doesn't need to get a massive amount of screentime or be shoved in your face, but it needs to be there if they're going to, well, give it so much screentime.

>>150444078
They don't need to have backstory, just flesh out her mindset. If it's done by actions, better. But before 9 we had:
-YYK telling the twins to 'leave them be' at 3
-YYK repeatedly telling CCN not to get involved, but then dropping that as soon as CCN shows any resolve
-The end of 7 and 8 suddenly bringeverything to a head and YYK is super anxious and angsty about everything, is forced to pick a side and everything comes tumbling down

After that, 9 happens. Mind, we STILL get the shoved-in expository flashback detailing us the precise backstory of YYK's relationship with CCN, just in case. Probably because they thought the stuff we had up until then wasn't enough to make it satisfying. You must remember that theories made in discussion threads are not part of the material. The material has to evoke feelings, imply facts and create believable situations for us, not the other way around.

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>>150444131 Are you one of those special kinds of idiots?

>>150444118
But is Cocona really over the Mimi thing? Just because she was able to look past it in a life/death situation does not mean it doesn't bother her anymore.

>>150444259
inb4 "CHARGE YOUR FUCKING PHONE"

>>150444281
more like clean your fucking inbox

>>150444263
I mean we get a shot of them holding hands and looking at each other like they want to fuck until death. Both of them were quarreling, (only Cocona for a half-legitimate reason) yet made up instantly when the plot called for it.

I would feel it kinda weird especially because it's already the third time in a row with the same cliffhanger. I mean in the end it would probably be a net positive if she didn't get over it and her feelings and self-esteem actually factored into the whole situation, but it could've been done better I think

I don't know about the rest of you but i cried like a bitch when the credits rolled and i though Yayaka had died, i wouldn't have been able to do that if i didnt think she had enough characterization.

>>150444299
It makes me feel important

>>150444316
Anon you would cry if somebody ran over a cardboard cutout of an anime girl on the street if it was cute, don't lie.

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>>150444320

>>150444251
>They don't need to have backstory, just flesh out her mindset

But her mindset was fleshed out. I don't see how the points in your post are supposed to be negatives, by the way.

>>150444347
Not him but wouldn't you?

>>150444320
But you will miss your Flip Flappers BDs shipment notice Anon

>>150444316
Well I said at the beginning of the argument that these are pretty subjective things and people have subjective reactions. I'm just trying to explain why I didn't really feel this episode emotionally like it wanted me to.