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Why?
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>>150412696
>Why?
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>>150412696
The more money Nasu can make off of spinoffs, the less actual work he has to do. He's probably sitting at home playing video games right now.
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>>150412696
Because money.
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But can Saitama defeat her?
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>>150412811
Can she defeat servants?
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>>150412696
Let me guess Fate G/O?
Because Fate G/O , here is your answer. It's mobile game "free to grind , pay to win" , they are designed to suck money out of people.
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Why not?
>>150413223
>F/GO
>pay to win
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Because you touch your self at night.
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>>150412696
Because people will spend money on anything, even if it's just Rin with less clothes
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>>150412811
Saitama could probably take all 7 Grand Servants on at once without even getting to 50%
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>>150413256
Well, if one would define victory as "getting your favorite Servants", then FGO is pay to win.
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>>150412696
>Why
Because my dick
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>>150412696
She's attractive unlike Rin desu.
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>>150413523
Paying doesn't improve the gacha rate though.
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>>150413607
The eyes and the outfit are the only difference.
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>>150413690
So? That's enough.
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>>150412696
I hate non cancer side spin off shit but i like Rin
What did they do to her this time to pander to you fags?
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>>150412696
Who needs to write good stories and put effort into meaningful productions like Mahoyo when you can just take an existing character's design, take off her clothes and make far more money?
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>>150412696
>typemoon
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>>150413765
Put Ishtar inside her and made her an Archer.
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>>150413725
They look the same yet you claimed one was attractive and the other wasn't. Was just saying that it didn't make any sense.
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Wish they had used this design instead of Rin.
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>>150413523
See >>150413659
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TOHSAKA PLEASES OLD GODDESSES FOR MAGIC POWER
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>>150413659
But it does improve your chance of getting any particular Servant.
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>>150413659
If you want to win the lottery you have to buy a ticket
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>>150413659
It actually does, rolling more often increases your total chance of getting your desired card.
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>>150414061
>>150414130
No it doesn't
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>>150414158
Statistics and probabilities anon. The more you roll the more chance you have to get what you want.
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I never got into Fate. Is there some in-world reason why there are different versions of characters or do they just reuse designs for no reason?
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>>150414232
>Is there some in-world reason why there are different versions of characters
yes, aside from Saberface which is an in-house meme
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>>150414232
Different timelines, possible descendants, homunculus clones, and joke Servants.
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>>150414232
Parallel universes.
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>>150414274
>>150414294
I feel satisfied knowing this now. Thanks.
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What happened to the rules about the no God summoning rule? Ishatar is the Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, sex, and power
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>>150414390
That's entirely why she's taken over Rin's body
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>>150414390
She's using a human body as an avatar so it circumvents the rule.

Euryale and Stheno can be summoned because they existed in the world before becoming Gods and since all of human history was killed by Solomon they're technically dead
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>>150414390
Not even the first time this has happened. Artemis is already in via hijacking Orion's summoning.
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Not that i complain. A semen demon is getting possessed by a semen goddess
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>>150414390
H I P S
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Where are her shoes
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>>150414390
>What happened to the rules about the no God summoning rule? Ishatar is the Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, sex, and power
She is also Lilith, some says. How is this possible?
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>>150412696
Whore of Whorylon?
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>>150415075
She doesn't need any, she's already wearing the sexiest thing possible.
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>>150412696
>>150414390
>>150414675
Why is rins body so fucking sex
Im normaly a thickfag but Rin just does things to me
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>>150415149
Dirty Jews putting dirt on Eastern Semitic polytheist deity is not something new.
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>>150415168
That's Nero.
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>>150415217
just imagine yourself treating Rishtar to grapes and sweets as she lays back being fanned by other servants until her body becomes nice and soft
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>>150415270
>gorefag
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>>150415197
But wearing no shoes is lewd
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>>150413659
>Paying doesn't improve the gacha rate
>he doesnt understand what gambling is
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>>150415412
Stirrups are the lewdest thing imaginable.
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>>150415476
Indeed
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>>150412696
They're desperately trying to convince us that Rin's still relevant. She isn't.
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>>150415476
>>150415560
All my CM3D 2 maidos have stir ups
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>>150415667
The true patrician thing in CMD3D2 is to fuck your maid while she's wearing only her garters
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>>150414390
>What happened to the rules about the no God summoning rule?
Something something alternate dimensions.
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>>150415667
Can't blame you. They're like a bra that reveals the nipples, in that they're lewd by nature and in a completely purposeful manner.
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>>150415717
Garter + stir up thigh socks
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>>150414390
Gods find the most suitable human for them to possess, just like Jeanne did to a French girl in the Apocrypha.

In other words, Rin is the most suitable girl in the world for the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
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>>150416555
>Rin is the most suitable girl in the world for the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
I wonder if they intended this.
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>>150414390
>those hips
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It's not rin, it's Ishtar :^
>Nasu written some mambo jambo about servant possession to justify everything
>now absolutely everyone in Nasuverse can become servant even cats
>It's not ______ even if he/she actas like _____ it's actually God of Anal servant
Wait some time and we will see Tsukihime characters in F/GO. Maybe DDA servants
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>>150415000
>>150416727
Anything wrong with them?
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>>150412696

What the fuck? Have they started making Rin clones now that there's too many Saber clones around?
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>>150416185
My niggro.
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>>150416875
It's not the Fuyuki Grail War, so it doesn't follow its rules. And it's not the first time that it happens.

In Extra, Moon Cell already allowed for the Amaterasu to be summoned as her avatar Tamamo, and that's not counting shit like the personification of nursery rhymes. Apocrypha had the Ruler, GO added other things like Waver getting the spirit of Zhuge Liang.
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>>150417338

I hope you're not talking shit about one of my daughterus Nursery Rhyme
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>>150412696
Is Ishtar stronger than Gilgamesh? It looks her NP comes from Gate of Babylon. I wonder who Shirou or Sakura will be possessed by.
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>>150417449
I'm not, dumb shit happened in Fate since the start. Fake Assassin was summoned by another Servant and had a fucking temple gate as his Master. We don't know much about them, but in the 3rd War Edelfelts summoned two Sabers with two Masters. The Fate itself breaks the established rules in the first entries of the story, getting mad about them being violated even more is unproductive.
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>>150417338
Why do people defending this shit exist
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But can she please old men?
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>>150417683
Sakura is confirmed to be Parvati

Shirou isn't even confirmed to be in the game aside from EMIYA
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>>150416555

Stop the memes, Waver already said the only two requirements for a Pseudo-Servant is for the host to be powerful enough as a magus and to have a similar appearance. Personality is irrelevant as the Divine Spirit completely takes over the mind of the host.
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>>150417981
Waver is a fucking retard
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>>150417722
>I'm not, dumb shit happened in Fate since the start
Turning everyone into servants =/= Fake Assassin summon or two Sabers. But nevermind, you will eat everything
>Tsukihime 2
>Santa Claus DDA appeared
>he's servant and DDA from different universe where time continuum momentum turned into delta 325 magic anal and now he can summon Shirou as Type Earth.
>Shiki become Primate Murder in the end
>Arc is Sakura's pokemon actually
10/10. Don't get mad.
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>>150418092
>Turning everyone into servants
>is literally not what is happening but I'll cry anyway since I have the need to whine about everything popular
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>>150418092
Considering current Nasu's writing that's better than what he can write.
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>>150416555
>the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
lol
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>>150418236
GO is Sakurai though.
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>>150418092
>bringing back liked characters as a fanservice is evil!
>introducing a way for all the interesting divinities and other spirit things to be summoned is wrong, because it violates the rules established in a porn game 12 years ago!
Fuck you man, I like having fun
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>>150418333
GO is Nasu, Sakurai and Higashide
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>>150418195
It's just possession, bruh
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>>150418338
>gacha
>fun
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>>150412696
As someone who began learning Japanese 10 years ago because of reading Tsukihime, I really, truly hate what the Nasuverse and Type-Moon has become. I feel betrayed, frankly.

The most recent major works just feel... wrong. From Mahoyo to CCC to Apocrypha to Grand Order, they get exponentially worse each time. The former two had their flaws but were okay when I first read them, but the latter two really put into perspective the steep decline. Especially the latter three, they're all just so frivolous and the power creep is absurd. I know these are mostly Fate works, but since it's all a connected setting more or less, it feels like the whole thing has become tainted. There's no other way for me to describe it. The stigma of the later works, the scale of which has gone out of control feels impossible to escape now.

There's not a single hint of the mystique that once characterized the Nasuverse in its currently published works. The Root and a Magi's quest for it used to be so full of subtlety and enigma, despite obviously being an enlightenment pastiche. Now it's just powerlevels, fanservice and anime comedy gag scenes.

Even when the Tsukihime Remake comes out, it probably won't be instilled with the modest, somber atmosphere and utsuge sincerity of the original. We can already see that happening in Arcueid's seibaface or the Tohno Mansion's absolutely ridiculous new design.

>>150418338
Fuck you.
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>>150418513
It is fun. Just not as fun as choosing what you want.
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Kiritsugu became a servant too. Kotomine servant when?

I want to spam Mapo Tofu as his NP.
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>b-but it's not TECHNICALLY rin
fucking kill yourselves. you are the cancer killing type moon.
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>>150418594
Poor Kotomine never gets anything.
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>>150418572
>Arcueid's seibaface
Rotten meme. It's more like Saber's arcface
>Tohno Mansion's absolutely ridiculous new design.
What fuckin wrong? Looks awesome
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>>150418659
>killing Type-Moon
What's already dead, etc.
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>>150418572
The only people that actually like F/GO are /vg/ tripfags

Just do what every sensible person does and comfort yourself with the fact that non of it is canon
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>>150418711
Not dead untill DDD3, Maho 2 and Remake. F/SF is good but not Nasu
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>>150413993

Ishtar isn't gay though.
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>>150418754
>The only people that actually like F/GO are /vg/ tripfags
Literally zero tripfags. It's actually impressive, even the people who would have an excuse don't use trips or names.
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>>150418572

I'm glad you actually gained the motivation to learn japanese, well done!

But yeah I understand where you're coming from. The nasuverse used to be about compatibility rather than power levels.

Also I thought tsukihime could have been better especially Ciels route and I always wanted a route with Sacchin. Hopefully Tsukihime 2 fixes that.
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>>150418864
as long as there is a thread on /vg/ you fags are all the same to me
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>>150418754
>None of it is canon because my EOP ass can't read it
It's more canon than Zero in fact
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>>150418572
You seem sad.

Here, have this Jeanne d'Arc Alter Santa Lily Lancer to cheer you up.
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>>150418911
I bet you think Camelot is good, fag
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>>150418913

Thats not going to cheer up at all! Thats gonna kill anon with depression!
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>>150418959

I bet you don't think at all.
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>>150416875
>Wait some time and we will see Tsukihime characters in F/GO.
There's no reason why most of them can't already be servants if ryougi and kerry can
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>>150418911
>more canon
>there are varying degrees of canon
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>>150418959
>>150418991
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>>150418991
I bet you don't, considering you suck Nasu's cock.
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When are we going to see the superior model, Parvati Sakura?
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>>150419037
Wrong, I suck Sakurai's breasts.
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>>150419037

I'm not the one thinking about other people sucking nasu's dick.

Keep your fantasies to yourself Faggot.
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>>150418058
Waver was actually hosting a Servant when he sais that.
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>>150418338
>introducing a way for all the interesting divinities and other spirit things to be summoned is wrong, because it violates the rules established in a porn game 12 years ago!

Heroic spirits are inherently non interesting, and if you enjoy them you'd probably also enjoy making your own totally unique and sick member of the akatsuki. Coming up with new ways to make copypasted sexy anime babes and say "no it's not just anime babe #1523, it's actually this famous person/mythological concept" is such a blatant way to make money from your legalized gambling mobile game that I'm shocked people are actively defending it instead of just passively accepting it.

Heroic spirits as a concept only worked because there was a mystery element of "Wait, who is that guy?" (now completely thrown into the dumpster) and because the characters themselves were enjoyable and don't actually act like their historical basis outside of the most superficial ways. It's just a gimmick.
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>>150419090
5 minutes.
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>>150418572
> Tohno Mansion's absolutely ridiculous new design.
The mansion was always described as being insanely huge and wasteful.
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>>150418572
Is this a pasta, it feels like one.
>>150418594
He would baptise the enemy to death or perform surgery. That's the only things he can do with magic besides his crazy Bajiquan. Man the lack of Kirei annoys the shit out of me. He's one of the best Type Moon characters and gets jack shit since CCC came out. I just hope the movies do him some justice.
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>>150418678
>>150418754
>>150418872
>>150418913
>>150419205
>Replying to pasta

wew /a/
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>>150418572
maybe the problem is that you're 10 years older and still reading weeb shit designed for teenagers you autistic fuck
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>>150419173
>I' m not the one thinking

You barely think at all, Nasufag.
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>>150416727
What's the status of her romance in the light novel?
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>>150419226
>He's one of the best Type Moon characters
>Literally "I'm evil because I'm just born that way" villian
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>>150419234
Even if it's a pasta it's a real post and he isn't wrong.
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>>150419245
so are you or you wouldnt be browsing /a/ retard
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>>150419324
>Even if it's a pasta it's a real post

18+ Imageboard
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>>150419322
Who is the best Type Moon villain?
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>>150419257

Apparently you can't think and be original with insults as well.

>>150418991

Congratulations you have reached a new level of low. Can you go further down? I bet you can.
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>>150419378
Yes, the original post was real. It isn't that guy's fault people decided to repost it as a pasta. And he isn't wrong.
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>>150419420
>>150419324
>>150418572
samefag
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>>150419397
You can't even think Nasufag, You probably eat any thing Nasu shits nowadays, really sad.
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>>150419390
You said "characters", "villain" is a much smaller list.

At any rate, I've always been partial to SHIKI, both because you see often wildly different takes on him in different routes and also because he basically did nothing wrong his whole life yet doesn't come off as a shitty "woe is me" villain.
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>>150419536
>SHIKI
Jesus Christ
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>>150419536
>literally a shittier version of Lio
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>>150419536
>he basically did nothing wrong his whole life
you know except raping Kohaku for years and killing innocent people
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>>150412696
>After Gilgamesh and Enkidu defeated Humbaba, Ishtar fell in love with Gilgamesh, proposing to the King of Heroes, but he quickly refused due to her reputation as a whimsical and cruel witch who "rendered men useless."

Oh shit, Shirou just got NTRd
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>>150418572

I'm glad I never got into it much. It just seems to exist to milk ronery otaku now. The original games story is okay but like a lot of things with fanboys far from what they hold it up as. Everything else is pure grade fanservice bullshit that often works against previously established canon rules telling me they just don't care anymore and like most modern anime things it's all about fast money from desperate fans.
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>>150419642

Luvia also got NTRd, given Ishtar is a Goddess of Heterosexual Love only.
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>>150419603
Killing innocent people was because of a combination of him inverting, ROA in his brain and a combination of kohaku feeding him and tohno drugs/nanaya impulses going over the psychic link they have.

Likewise with him raping kohaku, tohno does the same shit in ciel route when he gets taken over, except SHIKI has kohaku deliberately do it to try and make him lose his mind even more, to the point where in the routes where that happens on screen SHIKI doesn't even know who tohno is anymore because he's that far gone.

He's still an asshole that did lots of bad things, but he basically just got dealt a cosmically shitty hand.
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>>150416555
So many flavors, and they chose the whore one

>>150416555
I keked
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>>150416875
>Wait some time and we will see Tsukihime characters in F/GO. Maybe DDA servants
Don't worry, nobody wants them.
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>>150419953
???
Check character pool
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>>150419535

The only shit droppings here is your insults.

Also the real sad tragedy is that you think your opinions matter, you failed abortion.
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>>150418864
Not literally, there's our manager, but he really has a good reason to use a trip.
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>>150418754
I mean, I play the game and enjoy it solely for the fact that I get to see my favorite servants interact in a fun manner.

The non-serious joke event and non-H doujins are the best part about it. Also I only go to the threads for news and leave. If anyone actually stays there for a long period of time then they are retarded. That place has like 5 decent people and the rest are /v/ level retarded.
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>>150412748
What's the purpose of this post?
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>>150420328
I just mostly stick around for that summary anon.
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>>150420328

You're nice. I wish the world was filled with more anons with decent opinions like you.

I like the my room lines and more screen time for servants who might not get an appearance in the anime.

For instance Arashi shooting a metal foundation beam while MC, Bedi and Mashu ride it for a quick get away is one of my favourite scenes in FGO.
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>>150420496
That too. I always miss his posts, so I end up having to go to the archives like I am doing right now to read the last part with the JP servants.
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/a/ is just as shit as /vg/ nowadays
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>>150420817

It's just a bunch of idiots sperging out. Ignore then and carry on.
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>>150418572
ugh this
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>>150416875
>Even cats
Is there an actual cat servant? I find that highly amusing and would love to see tiny little kitty cat destroyers of worlds.
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>>150412696
>ishtar's anus
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>>150420817
When /a/ openly accepts the shit that /vg/ does then I'll agree to this statement.

I will agree that /a/ is nowhere near its prime but it hasn't sunk to the bottom just yet.
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>>150420817
>nowadays
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>>150420914

It's defenseless.
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Just to be clear, Ishtar is female, right?
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>>150412696
It pleases old men, for money
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>>150421238

I wish I could pay off my debts like that. Not even the old men want me.
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>>150421194
can he/she/it defeat gods?
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>>150421194
Shirou as Vulcanus/Hephaestus when?
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>>150420935

It's pretty fucking bad and I see little difference between /a/ and /v/ these days in terms of just endless bad threads full of shitposting and falseflagging opinions to incite stupid arguing amongst loudmouth idiots. Part of the problem I think is just the anime fandom naturally getting dumber all around with the current generation from being exposed to an endless wave of bad overhyped schlock entertainment. Standards are just regressing at a rapid rate to the point where literally all you need is sexy looking waifus to be considered a masterpiece and worthy of discussing endlessly and if you expect anything else or disagree with these shitposting waifu fuckers even as a perception well then hurr meltdown time and they'll just shitpost a thread to oblivion out of spite which of course is allowed and encouraged on modern /a/ by the mods.

Again it's not like it's much better anywhere else, the fanbase is just chock full of stupid stereotype otaku shitters with a victim complex a mile wide more than ever before thanks to social media and really the internet
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>>150419979
>???
Too old
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>>150421516

And they're already fucking doing it as you can see

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>>150421238
>>150421194
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>>150419234

and that's just the typical shitposting I bothered to highlight in the last 10 or so minutes
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>>150421516
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>>150421516

Tits and ass makes money, that's the way the world works.

Unless your Boudica, her art was terrible.
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>>150421572
You need to seek help. Urgently.
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>>150421466
Got you covered

>>150421572
You forgot this one >>150421572
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>>150421572

It's hard to find the high horse when you're discussing the decline in mature discussions about a spin off to hentai VN.

Every thread has shit posting. Deal with it you special snowflake.
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>>150421516
The difference with /v/ and /a/ is that /v/ has always had shittiness attributed to it. While /a/ is getting shittier, old threads on /a/ about some older series and stuff are fine. Like the R07 threads from what I see compose of the same people from years ago. Its isolated from the garbage, but not for long.

80% of threads having to do with currently ongoing anime are indeed garbage cancer. Which is why I never go to any thread about ongoing anime. That whole thing about "enjoying an anime with the /a/ threads" is complete retardation for people who actively partake in cancer and should kill themselves.
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>>150421238

Only old men?
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>>150421757
Thanks for proving his point.
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>>150421572
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>>150421802

Wut????
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>>150421466
People always forget about Vulcan/Hephaestus
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>>150422011

Do you know any other renowned or famous blacksmith Gods or heroes?
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>>150422055

Brokkr and Eitri, the Dwarves who forged the Norse Gods weapons.
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>>150421802
>his
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>>150422087

Ah thats pretty cool. I looked up some legendary blacksmiths.

Masamune seems like a good match for shirou.

He might even look like the Limit Zero shirou as pseudo servant.
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>>150414390
Half the rules that Nasu throws out in Fate are explicitly there to be broken so as to shock the viewer. The entire series is about edge cases and magical rules-lawyering.
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>>150422348
Of course this is the kind of cancer that browses these threads.
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>>150414203
that's not how probability works. your odds remain the same.
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>>150414390
>goddess of fertility, love, war, sex, and power
All the best things in the world
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>>150416185
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>>150422628

Let me live the sweet sweet lie anon.
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>>150414390

What sort of sex?
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>>150414472
>She's using a human body as an avatar so it circumvents the rule.
So Jesus is fine after all? Or does Christian autism not work how I think it does?
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>>150422875
The leg locking, mating pressing, hand holding kind of sex. And also, the prostitution kind of sex.
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>>150422946

What about the gay kind? Normal Rin is totally into that sort of thing.
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>>150422808
>image.jpg
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>>150423126
Of course anon
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>>150412696
She goes better with Luvia this way.
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>>150423126
>gay sex
>goddess of fertility
It doesn't work this way.
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>>150412696
>bare feet
I hope bata delivers.
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I hope that eventually they have a psuedo servant with Luvia. Someone Scandinavian like Skadi or Freyja would be cool.
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>>150423909
She has stirrups, the only thing better than bare. Which, along with Shuten Douji and that one Saber, means that Good Things are happening.
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>>150423795

Which Goddess will take over Luvia's body?
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>>150424065
I vote for Aphrodite.
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>>150423817

So Ishtar is the cure to Rin's homosexual problem?
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>>150424011
Even better.
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>>150424154
Yes, but she may cause a bestiality problem instead.
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>>150424011
>that one Saber

It's Okita you mongrel
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>>150413390
Who are the grand servants again? I know Solomon is grand caster.
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>>150424124
Have to agree there.
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>>150424252
Tertiary here.
She'll always be "Feet Saber" to me.
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>>150424259
based on grand order? only solomon so far.

Unless you count the giant tentacles in each order.
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>>150424259
He is the only one confirmed for now. Datamine revealed Kawasumi as the VA for Grand Saber so it is safe to assume that Arturia will be wanked once again, and people seems to think that King Hassan might be Grand too.
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>>150422628
I never played FGO so I don't know how the gacha works, but assuming there's some constant probability p (0<p<1) of getting a specific card each time you pull, pulls are with replacement and subsequent pulls are independent, then yes throwing money to pull more makes it more likely that you'll have the card you want when you're done.
If you can give me specifics on the gacha mechanics I can give you a better calculation.
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>>150424411
Please, show some respect to this honorable Saber.
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>>150424425

I thought King Hassan was already confirmed Grand servant?
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>>150416555
>In other words, Rin is the most suitable girl in the world for the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
This is win.
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>>150424496
The only hint is that he shuts roman's mouth when he starts talking about Grand Servant.
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>>150424252
Saber clones all command the same respect and recognition from me. Which is that of one person divided by number of clones.
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>>150424065

Whichever one is known for going both ways and being extremely Tsundere.

I want to see her secret massive crush on Ishtar while will never be reciprocated because Ishtar isn't into girls.
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>>150424656
Rude !
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>>150424789
Oh, I'd do rude things to her lower extremities, if you know what I mean.
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>>150424874
I don't get it.
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>>150412696
>fatetards

just give my prisma movie.
i want to drop this fucking franchise
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>>150412811
what would happen if saitama punched in her midriff?
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>>150425181
You know, lewd and obscene things, that would be considered rude to do in public.
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>>150425502

Stuff like drizzling oil on her feet and then rubbing your feet between her soft soles and toes?
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>>150425998
Yes, but using my penis for both tasks instead.
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>>150426052
Why would anyone use his penis for that ?
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>>150421773

The real problem with /a/ is getting stock generic baiting responses like >>150421733 and all the militant shithead fanboys that crop up around certain types of series and brands that form the bulk of the boards content now. /v/ just seems to hate everything to do with popular gaming culture and be a circlejerk in that regard whereas /a/ is more about trying to start cyclical arguments with anybody that seems like an easy mark. Sometimes this actually revolves around an anime, usually it's about bullshit and hot button waifu type franchises with lots of fanboys though as I've pointed out.

If the best counter to this observation is to make stock generic shitposts like calling people autistic and posting bad reaction image memes then it just proves my point about the lame baiting and shitposting attempts being the focus here.

>>150421802

Yeah thanks, not that I ever had much doubt /a/ would cause it's really easy to predict how people will post like >>150421818 this tryhard
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>>150421773

/a/ actually tries to pretend it does things like enjoy anime with each other in threads? It's literally all about trying to start pointless arguments with people and drive by insult them over literally nothing, anybody with a brain can see that first hand. Even the post hot waifu threads that used to be pretty straightforward are getting really bad for that. When people will start arguments and insults over literally the most random shit it's kind of hard to have a decent thread that serves it's supposed purpose though. If /a/ could just make a real about no stupid arguing and enforce it it'd instantly fix a good chunk of the shitposting problems but good luck with that.
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>>150414390
of course the prostitute goddess had to be Rin
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>>150426604
I will not disagree that the ongoing anime threads are all cancer yes. What you just said describes that perfectly. Most old series have decent threads and I'm grateful for that.
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Sup
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>>150426671

Most other series tend to avoid having militant shit head types looking to start those pointless arguments because they don't know enough about them to seriously get the ball rolling. When they try usually it becomes pretty evident they have no idea what they are talking about and then they just resort to the usual tactics like "autism" and "fuck off to reddit" by which point the thread is already close to done anyway. With newer series with hype bullshit and that like this one usually the intent to shitpost and in what direction is subtly conveyed by the OP and initial shitposters anyway so the whole thread is just a disaster for 500+ posts
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>>150427291

Meant to say older not other
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>>150426751
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>>150426671
I think the problem is that people think cynicism and being a loud asshole is what's the 4chinz is all about and what staves off the undesirables, even though that's no different than the average YouTube comment section. Not to mention all the fanbase identity politics on a fucking imageboard.
I never really identified with that, I just enjoy appreciating 2D and the attention to details and random trivia that would be called out as "weird" elsewhere.
Forgive the meta derail, I just agreed with what you guys posted.
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>>150414390
>omg Nasu doesn't care about his own rules
Is that the response you want?
Nah, many people seem to forget that two grail wars aren't going to have the same rules entirely, unless they're 100% set up the same. No gods, only hassan is assassin, and other such things were only the Fuyuki ritual. That stopped being relavent as soon as we left fuyuki. This isn't fuyuki set up anymore.

Although granted it's still near impossible to summon one. Basically the summoning has to work in reverse, with the god summoning themselves and accepting some sort of big limitation. The easiest way for them to be summoned I'd as a pseudo servant, by possessing a human. Servants possessing a human has happened as far back as ataraxia, it's not a new concept.

The potential of divine things being summoned is talked about a few times but it's very rare.
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>>150427349

With Rin you can almost guarantee a threesome with another hot girl. With Sakura all you'd get is worms.
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>>150428198
You can get Rider with Sakura if you play your cards right.
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>>150428959

You can get Rider with Rin as well. And that doesn't remove the Worm issue.
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>>150429007
You'll have to watch Sakura to avoid any for of cuntblock though.
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>>150418572
Apocrypha isn't written by Nasu.
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>>150417683
Wasn't Shirou hinted to be Muramasa in one of the side materials?
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>>150416555
>Rin is the most suitable girl in the world for the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
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>>150429940

And yet there is no Goddess willing to degrade herself by taking Luvia's body.
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>>150429316
He never said it is? Nasu still approved it.
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>>150429940
Luvia is just as suitable as Rin since personality doesn't matter, only power and composition do.
Now, ask yourself why Luvia wasn't chosen despite being just as suitable as Rin.

It's because NOBODY LUVS LUVIA
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>>150430472

If nobody Loves Luvia, then what does this mean?
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>>150430685
That Luvia luvs Rin and Rin just wants to use her body for pleasure.
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>>150430685
Rin is nobody,
Nobody is perfect,
Therefore Rin is perfect.
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>>150430757
>Rin just wants to use her body for pleasure
honestly who doesn't
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>>150430805
Me. I'm not into fat old hags.
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>>150430769

Perfect enough that she can make her family's rival fall for her.
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How long until we'll be able to be happy in Fate threads again? When the Extra anime airs?
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>>150430942

Last time Fate threads were happy was before the UBW Anime began airing. I doubt we'll ever see those days again.
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I wish a goddess of prostitutes could possess me...
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>>150430942
Never
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>>150430980
The LONDON live reaction thread was pretty happy, Rin's last birthday thread was surprisingly mellow, and there's a couple more of post UBW happy threads.
But I don't expect things to go back to the way it were until at least Ufo's HF has concluded.
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>>150431114

I missed the LONDON live thread because it screened at fucking 3AM, and after managing to get up at that god-forsaken time every sunday morning for the entire first half and up to the Archer fight, I simply couldn't do it anymore.
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>>150430942
Pic related is how it's gonna stay, embrace it.
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>>150431467

>One of those posts is mine.
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>>150431520
Which one?
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>>150431599

Illya and Miyu.
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>>150431599
The one under the name Anonymous
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>>150431467
That looks like it's not even cherrypicked, like an actual fucking portion of a thread.
/a/ needs to kill itself.
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>>150431880

That isn't cherrypicked. That's literally what that thread looked like. To be fair, the whole thread was another 'Old men for money' bait thread.
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>>150431467
>the last one
lel.
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>>150412696
Red eyes Rin is a miracle of the Universe.
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>>150432979

She's not as good as regular Rin though. You can't get a threesome with Ishtar.
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>>150433110
But with Ishtar you can fuck Rin's EX rank body without feeling like Shiki.
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>>150433200

You get another girl to warm her up first and you can get the same result.
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>>150433200
>>150433342
>not wanting to rape Rin in the most brutal of ways, until you break her by forcing her to experience countless unwanted orgasms and drowning her in a sea of self loathing and humilliation

There's no greater pleasure than destroying what's perfect and beautiful, it's humanity's deepest, most ancient and lasting desire.
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>>150433591

Perfection and Beauty are fragile things that need to be preserved, for to destroy them is to destroy the fruits of human endeavor and leave us no better than animals.
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>>150433725
We are animals, and we are far worse than our less intelligent brethren in many, many aspects.
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>>150433795

To quote Aristotle, 'At his best Mankind is the noblest of animals, separated from law and justice he is the worst.'

We can transcend our own inner savagery and darkness, but it is a never-ending struggle that we must all fight within ourselves.
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>>150433872
>Aristotle
He was a terrible human being himself. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
It's been several millennia and humanity seems closest to extinction than ever, and it's cruelty has developed in unimaginably creative and equally terrible ways. And that's not gonna change in my lifetime, so I'M RAPING TOHSAKA RIN GOD DAMMIT
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>>150422926
The trinity is fucking confusing, but I'll explain it the best I can. There's three aspects of God. The Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. Yet at the same time there is only one God. The way I've heard it described is like water. Ice, steam, and the liquid are all technically water but they look and act differently, but at the end of the day they are all still water. I'm not an expert though so take it with a grain of a salt.
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>>150433110
How is her personality?
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>>150435409
Dominant and super proud and confident in her looks. Likes being admired.
A bit tsundere when giving praise to her master.
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>>150435503

How angry will she be when she sees parvati's massive titties and then re-examines her own modest chest?
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>>150435551
>Implying bigger is better
Ayy
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>>150435503
So wait, what was her beef with Gilgamesh?
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>>150435650

Rin's jealousy over big breasts is pretty well known. If Ishtar is just wearing Rin and is super proud and confident in her looks, then something that makes her looks seem less wil doubtless hit her. And while Rin can balance her jealousy over big titties with her own attraction to big titties, Ishtar has thoroughly expunged the gay out of her and can't overcome her jealousy with an extended groping session.
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>>150435551
>How angry will she be when she sees parvati's massive titties
Quite angry, then it'll pass immediately when she sees her ____DICK____
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>>150435754
Rin is one of the people who has barely any jealousy regarding breasts. What in the fuck are you talking about?
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>>150435822

Forgot Pavarti has been portrayed as Intersex. I strongly doubt the Japs will go that way though, it would never fly. It would be fun for PavartiSakura to have a dick though, if Saber could have one why not Pavarti?
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>>150435866

You don't remember her jealousy when she caught Shirou ogling Rider in HA?
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>>150435897
No actually, all I remember is her wanting to join in.
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>>150435922

It was a combination of jealousy and attraction. Rin can and does get jealous when teased about her modest chest size (Sakura did that to her somewhere in HA), but she also shows an obvious attraction to girls with big titties.
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>>150435873
For the same reason the japs seriously downplay the whole saber canonically can grow a dick and fucked her sister knocked her up and is the fathermother of a sexually confused futa.

If that is still canon, then pavarati is gonna be a functioning hermaphrodite.
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>>150435873
Nasu already portrayed Dark Sakura as an intersex/androgynous character.
How else do you explain her sudden lust towards Rin, deeper voice, increase in aggression (she's overdosing on testosterone), the phallic symbolism, her steeply decreasing affection towards Shirou (she sent Saber to basically kill him), and the increased usage of gender neutral pronouns?
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>>150435975
That doesn't mean she is Jealous though. She is just aware she isn't the biggest but never did I explicitly see her wanting bigger breasts. For an action girl like her big breasts aren't a win.
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>>150436005

So basically bu becoming Demi-Sevants, Rin and Sakura are switching places? Sakura becomes the bisexual one (with a dick to boot), while Rin becomes the 'fuck anyone for semen' slut?
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>>150422628
Well not really. For example, flipping a coin once and trying to get heads vs flipping a coin twice.

Chance of getting heads after 1 coin flip = 50%

Chances of getting at least one heads after 2 coin flips = 1 - (chances of getting both tails) = 1 - 0.5*0.5 = 75%

So you would have a 25% chance of getting heads if you flip a coin twice. Same logic applies for spamming a huge amount of rolls vs having only a couple of chances.
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>>150436058
They become mindless bodies, the servant's personality takes over except in very exceptional cases.
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>>150436109
25% higher chance I mean.
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>>150436005
That certainly would explain the subtle bulge and the muscular arms.
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Wow, the girl that everyone thought was a whore is now literally a super whore. Who would have guessed!
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>>150436171
What is the point then? Why not just give her the regular servant body? The reason I would want to get Ishtarin is because for the first time I can get Rin with the power of a servant. I hate this.
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>>150436463
Shut the fuck up. Rin is pure.
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>>150436681
The point is that Rin & friends' bodies sell more than original designs. Also, overcoming the 'no divine spirits allowed' rule.
>Rin with the power of a servant
There's TOHSAKA for that.
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>>150436707

>Has an H-Scene in every Route
>Does both guys and girls
>Pure

Yeah, nah.
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>>150436740
We don't know the strength of TOHSAKA. Besides she is suppose to be a joke character or else it would have appeared in FGO.
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>>150436463
>the girl that everyone thought was a whore is now literally a super whore
Did you finish HF yesterday? Dark Sakura has been around for years.
Or are you talking about BB, Passionlip and the others?
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>>150436788
>Does ONE H scene in parallel dimensions.
>Every other heroine has at least 2
>Calls Rin unpure
Wew
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>>150436788
She has an H-scene in two routes, read the fucking VN.
At least she's as pure as Saber, and way purer than that certain "girl" that has three consecutive h-scenes in the same route and the filthiest backstory in the whole Nasuverse.

But if you want ultimate, everlasting, untouchable purity, Taiga is definitely your girl.
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>>150436955
Taiga is so pure she has reached an uncanny valley of purity. There's something quite disturbing about her perpetual virginity.
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>>150437027

If only young Waver had fucked her as Iskander suggested.

I wish they had actually animated this.
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Best thing to come out of Grand Order is the fan content.
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>>150436836
>>150436955
>Rin gets called out on being a slut
>m-muh Sakura!
Every time. Ishtarin is literally the author confirming that Rin is the sluttiest, deal with it.
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>>150412696
Literal worst everything
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>>150430980
There was a couple of good Fate threads in the last few months with minimal shitposting and no one responding to baits.

In general as long as the topic doesn't stray to wormfag vs anti-wormfag, you'll be ok.
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>>150412696
Is she stronger than Gil?
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>>150441950
Nope.
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>>150441950
Yes
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>>150441950
Yes, she is. She shoots planets out of her bow.
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>>150441288
fuck sakura disgusting slut
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>>150415648
some stupid magic wand isn't gonna talk about my waifu like that and get away with it
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>>150415218
>>>/pol/
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>>150442104
>>150442065
Noice.
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>>150413855
Anon, in case you didn't know, clothing and make-up has a big fucking influence on how attractive a woman is.
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>>150443192
I could put a potato sack on Rin and she'd still be attractive. It doesn't change her actual appearance like a different hairstyle, eye shape, or body shape would. A better example would be all the art giving her the hips of a baby machine that would pump out a newborn every 9 months on the dot.

>>150415224
>>150414390
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>>150441950
no, her NP isn't even EX
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>>150442284

What about this girl talking shit about Rin?
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>>150424437
GO has two gatcha, both of which can offer either Servants or craft essences. The quartz one guarantees one 3S Servant and one 4S or above card per 10-card roll. The drop rate doesn't change though. I believe the rarest Servants have a roughly 1% drop rate, though the wiki has specific numbers.
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>>150431083
This
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why oppaifags are so normalfag?
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>>150412696

waht is the ios card game with art like this? the girls in that game make my dick rock hard
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>>150443316
>I could put a potato sack on Rin and she'd still be attractive
Great, now I want a Rin in a potato sack.
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>>150447419
Closest I could find.
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>>150447620
This is cute AF, but
>tumblr
Kill yourself.
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>>150436039

She actually was jealous because she and Saber tag teamed Shirou for one scene where he was admiring Sakura's "growth".

All the girls have periods of jealousy.
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>>150436039
>>150448743
You do realize you're arguing over joke scenes in HA, right? that VN didn't get a single character's personality right, they are all flanderized, almost cartoonish versions of themselves.
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>>150436171

Nasu did make Sakura out to be a superfreak when it comes to being a vessel. Her personality was supposed to fracture when she had several undiluted heroic spirits in her soul and it didn't, so maybe she ends up as the sole exception.

Plus it would be just like Nasu to take advantage of that for Parvati, to bend those rules that humanity has such great inner strength to wrestle control from the gods with his "humanity is strong" mantra.

Sakura also has many sides, so he'd love to give Parvati different "modes", like a Super Form in a giant robot anime, he already made a scenario where Sakura was a giant robot for that Pocket Servant game.

And if he does make Parvati herm, the doujin writers will be on fire. They love having the Tohsaka sisters have lustful tension.

Who has the greater portfolio and prestige as a goddess, Ishtar or Parvati? Didn't Nasu compare Sakura to another mother goddess too?
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>>150448872

Carnival Phantasm is flanderization, Hollow shows what the characters would do if they were in that strange world with a bit of satire. They do use memes, yes, but all the characters behave in ways they would actually behave for the most part, barring the obvious fourth wall stuff of Shirou putting "explanation" glasses on Rin when she gets preachy, or Sakura having an assassination diary signed by all the heroines.

Rin and Sakura have a complicated relationship of mutual adoration, respect, and sometimes jealousy. That isn't a bad thing, it shows they are actually siblings. Even if it's played for laughs at times.
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>>150449045
Fanfiction/10
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>>150449192
Even CP has less inconsistencies than HA, and it actually nailed the jokes.
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>>150441950
GIl maybe the strongest in the anime. But im pretty sure plenty of servant can dumpster gil in FGO.
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>>150449336
>Bragging about her boobs when the vastly superior Rider is by her side
Is her worm Alzheimer's starting prematurely?
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>>150449417
Even in original he sucked cocks several times.
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>>150449417
But isn't Ishtat weak against Ea?
I mean, against Gil's cock.
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>thread full of people complaining about fanservice
>the same people will later beat off to their F/GO waifu five times
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>>150449336
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>>150449330

The jokes being funny is irrelevant, because that is subjective. If you don't like a character, them getting blown out or made fun of is funny to you. I don't mean a little ribbing, Carnival Phantasm went full on roast sometimes.

But I've seen Rin fans who liked Hollow and thought the Luddite and money jokes in Carnival Phantasm were stale.


Plus you actually get good surprise lore in Hollow on top of laughs. Like Saber being able to walk on water, Rin teaching Shirou about the medicine to soothe the pain of her crest, and Sakura's reactions about being back in the Tohsaka household while she cleaned it. Along with lore about the other summons.

While Carnival Phantasm was just pure memes and pointed jokes and nothing else, some really trashy ones too. Nothing wrong with that, but if you are arguing which has more merit, it's Hollow. Given its the one that most Fate doujin are based off of.
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>>150449502
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>>150449659
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>>150449698
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>>150449698
This is cringeworthy as fuck, it's making me hate mai waifu.
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jjj
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>>150449750
You're waifu is shit
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>>150449750

Don't know why it would, Crazy Clover Club likes to rib Sakura every chance they get, about as much as they make low brow Ciel jokes. It's TM memes:the doujin circle.

Check out their other things and you'll see what I mean. Sakura is supposed to have a tinge of sass and twinges of jealousy, like you see in the pool scene, and they constantly try to put her up as a full on bitch.

I did like that one F/GO comic where she had Shirou fresh out of the shower as a screensaver on her phone. She would probably do that.
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>>150449670
The extra lore sometimes contradicts the established lore, and it's canonicity is questionable at best.

Also, CP is probably the most universally loved TM work in existance. The only person I've ever seen shitting on it is that lone sakurafag that always gets triggered by her episode.
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>>150430942
>implying the Extra threads will be any better
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>>150450103
Cancer thread?
Cancer thread.
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>>150450271
What?
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>>150449960

Which item of lore did it contradict, other than a few Zero parts because it was made before Zero was a thing?

And for the Sakura ep, meh. I know it was supposed to mimic a telenovella, but they kind of went a bit far with it, like I said playful ribbing compared to pointed, mean spirited jokes. In addition to the irony of Sakura saying she was unpopular next to Rider when at the time, she is one of TM's most popular characters. The joke falls flat and she likes Rider, so the punching slapstick doesn't really go over well. They rewrote the entire original Matou Family skit from Take-Moon for no real reason. The director admitting he didn't like her didn't help it's case. It was more mean spirited I found.

Hell, I liked the bitchy Sakura stalker parts, but ep 6 just wasn't funny to me.
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>>150450323
>he hasn't read HF
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>>150450357
Yeah, I knew you were that guy.
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>>150450360
>reading F/SN
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>>150450360
Grandfather's worm is the bomb
Grandfather's firm worm is in me
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>>150450360
Oh no! She was RAPED. She's not PURE!

Burn the witch!
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>>150450425
Sorry, I meant played.
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>>150450389

There is more than one person who didn't find it funny.

Just like there were Rin fans I know who have a pretty healthy sense of humor, who thought the dvd ep was lame.
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>>150450484
>Rin fans I know who have a pretty healthy sense of humor, who thought the dvd ep was lame
Bullshit, the Blu Ray ep is pure gold.
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>>150450453
Of all that you got that she was raped?
How many times does the word WORM has to appear for you to realize the problem is that her pussy is filled to the brim with dickworms?
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>>150450574
>firm
Every time.
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>>150450517

It's Archer's presence that saved it really, the joke is old. The only funny thing I found in recent memory of Rin being bad with tech is the Twitter April Fool's joke.
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>>150449750
Rin? Because Sakura's completely in the right there. Hell, the joke at the end falls apart when you realize that Aoko and Touko are adults and that Sakura's still growing. Sakura's still #1 for her age.
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>>150450360
>>150450574
>he hasn't read HF
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>>150450574

That was proven false in game though. They are actually between her muscles.

I always thought that meme made no sense, didn't anyone actually explain that, or has the fanbase really thought she has the worms just falling out of her vagina all the time?
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>>150450731
I'd take a wormed waifu any day over a psycho killer waifu.
The cure was even worse than the disease.
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>>150450755
The VN says the worms go into her uterus to devour the placenta, where the fuck did you get that they are between her muscles?
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>>150450783
Have a waifu who's neither of those, then.
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>>150450831
That's not Extra Sakura.
Pic related has killed and done horrible things to her senpai and nee-san.
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>>150450831
Fun fact, Kirei didn't actually remove all the worms. Some of them remain as her magic circuits.
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>>150450852
>implying self-defense is a horrible thing
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>>150450900
Only Shinji was self defense, though.
And it was still going overboard, especially in RN.
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>>150450882
Nice fanfiction.
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what did she mean by this?
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>>150413390
wtf is a grand servant
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>>150450946
Rin literally told Sakura she'd kill her.
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>>150451017
When?
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>>150451099
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>>150451017
It's only self defense if she actually did something that threatened her life and she had no other choice but to fight. Being told "I'll kill you" does not justify taking violent measures against anyone. Are you fucking serious?
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>>150451122
Uh, that was the scene just after she attacked and tried to kill Rin who was only saved because Shirou showed up in time. You're going to claim self defense because of that comment?
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>>150450829
The worms turn into her nerves. It makes zero sense for her to have actual round fat worms inside of her body.
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>>150451183
You mean like trying to kill her with the Zelretch sword? Don't try to play dumb.
>>150451186
Rin said similar things long before that, though.
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>>150416555
>Rin is the most suitable girl in the world for the goddess of prostitutes to possess.
BRAVO VINCE
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>>150450829

It says if the host can't provide nourishment that this happens, they sap the spirit of women and make a parasitic nest of their bodies doing so.

And before Shinji kidnapped her and she was at her limits due to mana drain, it goes into detail about how they run through her bloodstream and between her muscles.

I could link you to the scene if you want.
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>>150451319
That was Rin acting in self defense, don't blame the victim. If Rin and Shirou didn't do shit the world would have ended.
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>>150451329
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>>150451319
>You mean like trying to kill her with the Zelretch sword?

Heh, you mean with the greater grail in the background as Sakura is preparing to release it and destroy the world? Are you being serious?

>>150451319
Rin only said anything remotely close to that after they all returned to Shirou's house for the first time and she warned Sakura that if she didn't retain control of her senses that she would be the one to put her down. She was right.
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>>150451378
Sakura was intending to kill herself in order to stop Angra Mainyu, though. She says it right there. Even during the fight, there's a part where Sakura tries to reason with Rin, only for Rin to say she doesn't give a fuck and go in for the kill.
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I kind of wish they'd given her a more brownish skin, I think it'd go great with that outfit.
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>>150451471
Rin tried to kill Sakura as soon as she learned that she was a master. She then tried to kill Sakura while she was unconscious in the church based on nothing but vague fears for the future. She also tried to kill Sakura despite knowing that Shirou had a way to save her.

Face it, Rin did a lot of uncalled for shit that only served to make things worse for everyone.
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>>150451481
She would have failed. A saner Sakura, earlier in the VN said she would never have the guts to end her life.
If you could prevent 9/11 by destroying the planes, but one random guy inside said he would stop the terrorists, would you trust that guy? No. The stakes are too high, and the success rate is minimal, if not completely null. It's the same with Sakura's bluff.
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>>150451238
>>150451362
Some worms merge with her nerves and act as magic circuits, some stay in worm form and live in her uterus and shit, it's not that fucking hard to understand, guys. It's all in the VN, just read it.

Remember, Kirei said:
>All I could do was to remove the crest worm that did not metabolize with her nerves
This means some of the worms stay in worm form, some stay in nerve form, easy as that. Zouken was in worm form inside Sakura's heart, for example.
It's pretty clear from the way Zouken uses them that they can easily change shape at will
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>>150451574
>She then tried to kill Sakura while she was unconscious in the church based on nothing but vague fears for the future.

This sort of goes out the window because objectively speaking Rin was absolutely fucking correct.
People were dying every night. Rin put them above her tenuous bond with Sakura.
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>>150451574
Rin tried to kill Sakura the first time after she lost control the first time in the school and attacked herself and Shirou. The only other time she attempted to do so was the very end of the novel in the cave. That's it.
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>>150451634
Just because she's correct doesn't mean she's right.
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>>150451578
She would have failed, yes. The Rule Breaker scene shows that, since Angra Mainyu could restrain her to protect itself. Rin still had no good reason to escalate the situation, since she knew Shirou had a way to save her.

All she needed to do was say that they were coming to save and not kill her, and chances are Sakura wouldn't have been nearly as hostile.

>>150451634
That didn't happen until after that scene, though, and she had no idea about it at the time. Her worry was about Zouken using Sakura.
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>>150451711
Pretty sure by the time they see the regular old shadow walking around, before they know it's connected to Sakura at all, it's killed people.
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>>150451711
>and chances are Sakura wouldn't have been nearly as hostile.

Sakura wanted her to come alone so that she could kill her in the first place much like when she returned to Shirou's house earlier in the week. Rin's words wouldn't have changed a thing.

>>150451711
>Her worry was about Zouken using Sakura.
That doesn't change the context of the scene.
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>>150451790
No, it only kills servants for the first few days. It's not until day 10 or so that it goes after civilians.
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>>150451828
>Sakura wanted her to come alone
No, she wanted her to escape together with Shirou. Rin was the one who refused that and insisted on going to kill Sakura.

>That doesn't change the context of the scene.
It kind of does. There's a reason there are two different decisions about whether to kill Sakura or not. The first one was a complete kneejerk reaction that even the Taiga dojo calls you an idiot for choosing.
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>>150451017
>>150451183

Are you both trying to start shit?

The main point of HF is that both sisters were in the wrong for the way they handled things the wrong way?

Sakura let her pain and anguish cause her to do crazy things and Rin failed basic empathy 101, like I would give her a Z- score in this route. They both fucked up royal.

The important thing is that despite everything, they still love each other and worked things out. Some siblings don't even bother, *coughAozakiscough*
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>we probably gonna get 4 star miyu welfare servant and 5 star prisma EMIYA gacha on their movie release
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>>150451947
In the cave, she forced Rin and Shirou to separate. She wanted to kill Rin. What good does it do to run away with Shirou if the world is going to die? Sakura, Rin, Shirou, they all knew this.

>>150451947
>two different decisions
Yes. In as many of those decisions as not, Shirou also comes to the same conclusion that Sakura must die. He does the same later on in the novel. Shirou tries to kill Sakura as many times as Rin does. Eliminating Sakura doesn't end the war or even necessarily save the world but it would have decreases the various avenues with which any of those possibilities could have happened.
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Can they just stop dancing around it and make an actual canon story arc about Rin prostituting herself?
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>>150452232
>She wanted to kill Rin.
Because Rin had been wanting to kill her. The difference is that Sakura was batshit insane at that point, while Rin spouted all that heartless stuff to her own sister while completely sane. Sakura's mind caving in because of her situation is understandable, but Rin was just a plain horrid bitch.

>What good does it do to run away with Shirou if the world is going to die? Sakura, Rin, Shirou, they all knew this.
Sakura didn't know she couldn't stop Angra Mainyu. Rin could have tried to explain things instead of agitating someone who's clearly mentally unwell.

>Shirou tries to kill Sakura as many times as Rin does.
He's far more supportive of her in general, and Sakura feels alright with him killing her. Rin's behavior in the route was literally Sakura's worst nightmare.
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>>150451711
>since she knew Shirou had a way to save her.
She didn't. And projecting was a life threatening risk for Shirou, it was not worth risking his life and memories.
Remember that they didn't know Illya was going to save him, so projecting was suicide.
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>>150452330
It's already exist.
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>>150452442
Sakura was a threat to the whole world, and Zouken had a failsafe in case Shirou and Rin decided to not kill her.
Rin did nothing wrong.
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This thread started really shitty but had some actual discussion in the second half. I'm proud of you /a/
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>>150452575
>actual discussion
Like what? the same old tired "Sakura is innocent and virgin" meme argument?
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>>150452575
Sarcasm?
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>>150451578

Incorrect, Saber said the cryptic things she did because she was going to work that out. Yes, it's madness by two mad women under a curse but that is what was going on.

But more to the point, the irrefutable thing going on was lack of information on the part of most of the protagonists. Kirei and Zouken tricked the heroes into thinking Sakura was ultimate thing to stop instead of the whole system being the cause, which caused strife in the household among our main characters.

It was no where near unavoidable or like 9/11. It was things going tits up because of the manipulation of two guys. Hell, Ilya says she would use Shirou's soul against Sakura to make her give back the heroic spirits in one bad end(so her turning against the ritual is a huge plot point), so things are just fucked up purely because of the various interests of the main characters, not some idea that Sakura is the devil that must be expunged.
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>>150452662
>Actually believing Sakura could have killed herself and stopped AM
She even tried to fight him in the VN and failed misserably. The only reason he didn't take her sanity away was that she was in the right mindset to do the whole purging humanity gig.
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I'm more interested in this new "Sakura is a tranny" thing than arguing over how guilty she is for the millionth time.
Can we please move on already?
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>>150452442
>Because Rin had been wanting to kill her.
No, because Sakura betrayed Rin, and Shirou, and her servant. Up until she became Dark Sakura, all 3 had been working to save Sakura. The minute she turned she made a beeline to Shirou's house trying to kill Rin. In any number of endings she succeeds and then goes on to kill Shirou. Sakura was so insane by the end of the route in fact that she could stand there and let all of her bitterness and jealousy she had harbored towards Rin flow out in a lengthy diatribe. She was never insane. She sure wanted people to think she was though. Just another excuse for her behavior.

>Sakura didn't know she couldn't stop Angra Mainyu

Sakura knew everything from start to finish. The entire route plays out according to her plans to try and save herself. She knew the only way to do so would be to betray the vary people trying to save her and to her credit, she does try to warn Shirou of that earlier in the novel. Didn't stop her from carrying it out though.

>He's far more supportive of her in general
Of course he is. He loves her after all. Rin also supports her in certain timelines after seeing Shirou and Sakura's willingness to fight. Sad that Sakura abandons them and kills them both to save herself more times than not.
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>>150412696
At least they cloned another character than Saber this time.
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>>150453003
We have Liz clones and Cu clones already.
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>>150452570

The pure logic you aren't getting is that attempting to kill her is what Zouken wanted at that point. He wanted her to completely give up and let her mind die to become AM. He literally laughed in Shirou's face when Shirou saw Shinji's corpse that he wished he had turned against Sakura so that she fully became the Shadow.

What you said was basically "let me do what the old mad scientist wants me to do and call it right".
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>>150453003
There's actually not that many clones really, just variants of a character.
In clones there's Okita, Nero and maybe Jeanne.

Variants of the same character has
Arturia Alter, Arturia Lily, Arturia Alter Lancer, and Arturia Lancer, Swimsuit Arturia Archer, Santa Alter
Cu Fate version, Prototype Cu, Caster Cu, Cu Alter.
Jeanne, Jeanne Alter, Alter Jeanne Santa Lily.
Liz, Caster Liz, and Liz Brave Ver.
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>>150453170
The bottomline is that Sakura was going to die either way, but killing her saves more lives than not killing her. It's not even a choice, anyone in his right mind would have killed her.
Shirou is the only one who doesn't want to kill her because he's fucked up in the head, as we all know.
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>>150452988
>all 3 had been working to save Sakura
Rin was constantly rejecting Sakura and trying to convince Shirou to kill her.
>In any number of endings she succeeds and then goes on to kill Shirou
Funny how bad ends only matter to you when it comes to Sakura.
>She was never insane. She sure wanted people to think she was though. Just another excuse for her behavior.
>Sakura knew everything from start to finish. The entire route plays out according to her plans to try and save herself.
>Sad that Sakura abandons them and kills them both to save herself more times than not.
Nice fanfic. Try reading the VN some time.
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>>150453397
>Rin was constantly rejecting Sakura and trying to convince Shirou to kill her
Not that guy, but this is completely false. When Sakura had chances to survive, the time they spent together in the Emiya residence, Rin didn't reject her. The times she was a threat with no chance of being saved, she did, as it's logical.
Her situation shifts from hopeless to somewhat safe several times, and so does Rin's attitude. It's like math, when there's more risk than reward she sets her mind to go for the kill, when the odds are better, she shows her true feelings.
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>>150453392
Anyone in their right mind would have taken out Zouken and the grail rather than killing an innocent victim of them.
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>>150453596
>taken out Zouken
This means killing Sakura, moron. Zouken is inside her heart.
>innocent victim
Victim, yes, but not innocent.
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>>150453758
>Zouken is inside her heart.
So once Sakura got rid of him, all they had to do was destroy the great grail.
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>>150453758
>Zouken is inside her heart
CUTE
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>>150453802
No, you can still destroy the world with the lesser Grail, like in Fate or UBW.
And Dark Sakura wasn't just going to let them walk past her and destroy everything anyways. She can't fight AM.
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>>150441288
>implying wormslut wasn't crying in the first day as well until she started enjoying it the second day
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>>150454151
According to Zero she cried for three days straight and then became a broken doll. If Shinji is to be trusted, some time between that and F/SN she started enjoying the rape.
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>>150454224
As I said, she started enjoying at the second day. She just kept crying as she started having orgasms until she finally stopped crying by the end of the third day, probably numbed by climaxing so many times.
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>>150454224
>If Shinji is to be trusted
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>>150454289
I'm just trying to be objective here.
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>>150454276
Why specifically the second day?
Orgasms should have started the very first day, Sakura was a little girl with no means of stopping the worms from making her cum endlessly.
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>>150454458
>little girl
>cum
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>>150452844

Not necessarily true, for a few reasons. Yes, she has the resentment, which makes her mind align to the curse, but you forget that she has other facets.

Zouken wanted Shirou to kill that hope, that thing that kept her going, so that she would become a meat puppet. He says as much in the scene, Chess.

Given her reactions, making her a mindless puppet would have benefitted AM more. She hesitates to kill Rin given several chances, her hand shaking while convincing herself she had to finish her off.

Sakura is supposed to be at the precipice, but not over it yet. Read the scene in Hollow where Medusa has the freak out and why Sakura was able to call her, and why Medusa is so loyal.
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>>150454535
I don't want to get into creepy territory, but girls can get orgasms before puberty.
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>>150454660
Nothing of that changes the fact that she was powerless before AM. Again, she did fight him in the VN and failed.
When she became Dark Sakura she didn't oppose AM, so he had no reason to suppress her personality, when she started resisting it became obvious who was more powerful.
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>>150418513
It is fun when you insert your money good goy.
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God can you guys make a Sakura thread to discuss her? You shitters always come in to ruin anyones thread.
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>>150455619
Sakura threads die early, it's simply not possible. You'll have to deal with it.
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>>150455987
No fuck you just fuck off already with her shit. It has been discussed to dead and back and no one fucking cares anymore.
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>>150412696
For sex appeal, of course. Rin is fuckable.
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>>150456036
If no one cared you wouldn't have a problem to begin with.
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>>150456188
The only ones who care are a selected few autists who keep having the same fucking discussion over and over. It could be a fucking pasta by now.
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>>150456170
Why is the heroine with the least sexual experience the most fuckable one?
It's the same as what happened in Tsukihime, KnK and Mahoyo, this can't be a coincidence.
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>>150455619
The issue isn't the Sakura fans, though, it's the Rinfags. Why do you think a thread about Rin literally being a slut goddess suddenly got hijacked with "WORMSLUT xDD" shit?
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>>150456296
Wormfags calling Ishtar a slut goddess, of course.
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>>150456331
And there we have it, folks. Rinfags just can't help screaming about muh worms whenever things aren't going their way. Sad, really.
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>>150456296
Dude fuck off. I don't fucking care about your fucking waifu this is not a stinking Sakura thread.
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>>150456296
I'm not a Rinfag and I love wormposting. Honestly, any excuse is good enough to bully wormfags, their reactions are just priceless. Why do you think this happens in every Fate thread? it's because they are the easiest people to trigger around here.
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>>150456296
>>150456403
I can't believe you are still being so fucking autistic after all this time. Jesus you actually ARE autistic. I am so so sorry for you.
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>>150456403
>Rinfags
Ishtarfag, actually. And Gilfag, and Enkidufag.
I'm basically a Babylonianfag.
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>>150456428
>Why do you think this happens in every Fate thread?
Because you're a shitposter trying to force it despite nobody else finding it funny. Now fuck off.
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Good guy Rinfags always taking the blame for our wormposting. Honestly, they deserve that their waifu is the most popular on /a/.
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>>150421516
>>150421773
>"enjoying an anime with the /a/ threads"
There a little shows that you can actually "enjoying" with /a/. But yeah.
>>150456036
Isn't those posts are just copy pasted from archive?
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>>150456524
Nasu forced the worm meme first.
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>>150456601
>Isn't those posts are just copy pasted from archive?
Most of them are, or from MAL or BL or Reddit, and it's only one guy playing both sides of the argument until more people start replying.
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>>150453516

False. One of Rin's flaws is that she is too logical, she tried to kill any hope she had on saving Sakura to make it hurt less if she found out it was impossible, Shirou calls her out on it twice.

And most damning was that she had a map to the cavern in her house among Tokiomi's old stuff, AND had an idea that the grail itself was the issue early on in the route. But since Kirei planted the seed of doubt in her, she never questioned that Sakura was the cause and that killing Sakura was somehow "best for her", never questioned Ilya's odd behavior whenever Sakura was mentioned, never double checked her sources which might have ended this faster.

It's the same flaw that caused her to use a Geas on Shirou in that bad end. And why she said herself she needed Shirou to act as her brakes.

Hell, if we want to say that killing Sakura would be merciful, than just have Kirei attempt the heart surgery and pray she had the strength to survive. That would be humane instead of coldly euthanizing her while she is awake. The cruelest thing is the last thing she sees is the last family she has to plunge a knife into her or Shirou. It'd be the end to a pile of shit life. It ain't mercy, it's just death.
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>>150457560
>She is too logical
Rin is too emotional, not too logical. She fails as a magus because she can't ignore her emotions, this is established in the prologue at the very moment she saves Shirou's life, and repeated countless times during the whole VN.
I can't fucking believe how backwards you got her character, I'm even tempted to call bait on this one.
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>>150449724
The cruel realities of the world.
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>>150414390
>goddess of fertility
It's like they took the hips from the Venus Figurines and just slapped them on
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>>150458337
And they'll do the same with Parvati's tits.
It's like pottery.
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>>150458401
what about parvati's dick?
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>>150457930

She behaves too logically. I never said she was a robot, but she tries to uphold a system of logic that doesn't agree with her and awkwardly goes through life when discrepancies to that logic arises.

It's why she tested Shirou with the Geas. Her mindset is "well, he should be smart enough to see through this and understand no one would agree to a Geas, so he'll refuse me". That isn't a wise move on her part, nor was putting the Geas on and not explaining to him what that meant.

Here, I'll use another example, the interlude Sister IV where they argue about Shirou using the arm. Instead of rationally talking it out, Rin heavy handedly tells Sakura to go to her room to start the conversation. Now, as they talk, the softer Rin comes out and she honestly tells Sakura she doesn't want to have Shirou use the arm.

So far so good, right? Sakura is also honest and says she knows Rin is worried, and wants to do right by Shirou, but knows that Rin can make mistakes and try to lean on the cold rationality of a magus as "heir of the Tohsaka family" something Sakura is worried she might do. Her response? "Yes, that's right, if I need him to use the arm and sacrifice himself, I will, he's my property and it's none of your concern" The narrator even says it was a mistake for her to say that.

That right there, and that is only one of several times she bombs hard in terms of not falling back to cold rationality when she is uncomfortable.

That isn't bait, that is the truth, she struggles between what she feels and no what she thinks she should do, and sometimes really fucks up because of that. Just like I'd say Sakura is in her own head too often and fucks up by making assumptions. So shit happens when you have two people with these kinds of personalities and years of baggage.
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>>150454458
Fine, she was enjoying since the first day, although while crying in the proccess. You're just digging her hole ever further.
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>>150451122
Funny cuz Rin also blush when shirou say that he will save Sakura and he wan't her to be in good term with Sakura no matter what 10 seconde after this scene Rin is just acting tsundere there.
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>>150458401
>And they'll do the same with Parvati's tits.
What a time to be alive
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>>150459160

I would say the crying would be more about the fact she was a four year old girl dumped in a basement full of nightmarish creatures and rotting corpses. And that the creatures were forcibly entering her and tearing into her flesh or choking her through her mouth. Like that Zero manga picture showed. I am pretty sure you all here are tough guys and all, but when you were four, I would say having a bunch of worms with teeth burrowing through your insides and trying to change your very nature would elicit a yelp or two.

And I would guess that the reason she stopped crying was resignation and purely because her voice went hoarse.

But that's just me.
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>>150459339
Gay
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>>150458566

How many more Rin/Sakura doujin will it spawn?
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>>150459055
Funny how you reformulated your whole interpretation around my point, that's called backpedalling. But at least you now have a better understanding of Rin.
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>>150412696
Because I will do anything for her
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>>150459631

No, because you see, I gave examples and fleshed out my point, which wasn't that she was a robot, but that she leans toward harsh rationality in times of duress, something you never alluded to in your counter. So I hope you learned a little more about Rin today.

You can take your patronizing attitude and shove it exactly where Saber would love to stick Excalibur in Gil.
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>>150449960
Her episode was trash.
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>>150460056
I just pointed out your glaring contradiction, I wasn't even arguing with you in the first place.
Such a shame, you were making progress. Maybe next time you'll learn to be polite and not get mad when your statements lack refinement.
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>>150459712

Ishtarin's great, but her not being into girls is a big downside.
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Ladies, ladies, calm down!

Rin, Saber AND Sakura are ALL shit tier dirty skanks
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>>150461239
Now this is backpedalling.
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>>150461344
How so? you're the one who embraced the fact that Rin is an emotional being, I never changed my position.
Glad to see you also learned the definition of backpedalling, now keep trying to use it in a more fitting situation. See? progress.
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>>150461426
Not even him, just laughing at your terrible attempts at bait.
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>>150461481
Not even her, but you don't seem very amused.
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Thread has been wormed to death, time to jump ship guys.
>>150462425
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Stirrups>>>ZR
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>>150463663
Stirrups are great and all but you're wrong.
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>>150459055
>That isn't a wise move on her part
I want to be hand held everywhere I go waaah. She explained to him enough of what it meant.
I honestly hate when people blame someone for how they use their fucking words if in all honestly she should know how Rin is.
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