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Prove me even slightly wrong
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>I'm 19 and really into "smart anime" starter pack
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Childhood is when you idolize LoGH.
Adulthood is when you realize Ginga Tedsudou 999 is the better anime.
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>>150383044
they aren't even comparable shows??

congratulations on calling it by its japanese name though we all think you are very cool
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>>150382848
Fuck off back to MAL you underaged shit.
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>>150383089
>>150382887

The only other option is to be 37 year old virgin who likes slice of life moe blob shit
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>>150383116
>unironically using virgin as an insult on 4chan

visible sage
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>>150382848
If you think Galactic Heroes is good then you are a closet Fascist.
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>>150383134
Or, you know, a monarchist.
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>>150383080
Better space opera.
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An overhyped, overrated, inflated-by-details anime of Mary-Sue dialogues and bland battles. When somebody says "the show doesn't get good until 20+ episodes in" you know there's something wrong.

As you can already tell, nothing good can come from me writing this review. Legend of The Galactic Heroes is beloved on this site, a great deal call it a classic, and here I am writing about it being only "average". I have not finished the series: I can't, and this review is intended to tell you why I can't, but moreso, why others like me, who bought into the hype, shouldn't waste their time (a LOT of time).

The story of Legend of the Galactic Heroes follow the protracted war between the The Galactic Empire and Free Planets Alliance with a stunning degree of depth. You will know why the war started, who started it, why they started it, and why it mattered to the characters. What you might wonder is: why does it matter to you? This is where the main problem with LoGH arises, and the first problem with the story: this is a series of details, not entertainment, not development, not provoking ideas, but details. This is where LoGH gets its staggering 110 non-filler episodes. It is a slow crawling assault of information, mostly useless. If you enjoy fictional history, this will not be a problem for you. You'll even be treated to several episodes of literal fake history lessons, in a documentary-style format, with interviews from fake historians and everything. Having fun, yet?
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>>150383235
The second problem with the story is actually a problem with its characters. They fall into only two categories: Mary Sues and trying too hard. The main characters, Yang Wenli and Reinhard Lohengramm, can twist probability and reason in such ways that would make the characters in Gurren Lagann blush; they can do no wrong. Yang Wenli is outgunned to some astronomical degree like 1 to 100 most of the time and he wins because of "superior strategy" or "morale". Julian, Yang's boy servant, can also do no wrong. He'll commandeer warships with little or no effort. They don't try to disguise this, as every character who loves Yang, Reinhard, or Julian will survive, and everyone who disagrees with them, regardless of how justifiable their reasons are, will die, at least in the first half of the show. This is where trying too hard comes into play. Look no further than the character Poplan, where you'll notice it first. He's horny, and he will appear in no scene without reminding you he likes women and that's his only trait. Oberstein will go through every scene looking suspicious only to have absolutely no payoff. An even greater insult to this cast is Fredrica Greenhill, who just blatantly admits she's useless aside from making sandwiches and tea. We get it, these are one-note characters. You cannot care about any of them aside from the aforementioned Mary Sues, making over half the cast uninteresting. Most of them just serve as vehicles for the three main characters to spout more of their ideals.

How does "morale" make a difference, anyway? Does morale make lasers stronger or weaker? These are space ships; morale has no bearing on the functioning on mechanical constructs, morale barely has an effect on conflict even in our time. Everything you heard about the tactics in LoGH is a joke. They use simple ideas like "Circle around behind them" or "Don't tell them about our main fleet", and apparently, that's very impressive to a lot of people.
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>>150382887
>>150382848
Don't mix mushishi and nhk with this fucking shit for fedora weeaboos that think they are special
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>>150383233
lotgh is a political drama, galaxy express is an episodic saturday morning cartoon
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>>150383266
You won't need to worry about this, though, action is sparse in LoGH because they prefer to drink, eat, stare out windows, converse, and philosophize for most of their screen time away. You ever wondered how Yang feels about democracy? You're gonna know. You're gonna know over and over again.

The third issue with the story is that it's entirely implausible. There's only two ways for the enemies to cross into each other's territories, and they never really explain why other than "we'll die". Wars are lost and the remnant survivors are still implausibly able to combat the enemy for the sake of plot. This would work in a show that didn't take itself so seriously; it doesn't work in LoGH. Also, in the future, wars are waged with battle axes and armor in space ships, lasers are less lethal than bullets, and everybody lives and looks the exact same way that they do now. LoGH exists in some strange mindset of the future where we got into space (somehow), developed some very limited mass-communication, and all other technology stayed in the Middle Ages. The show Star Trek did it better in the 1960s, and even changed the world we live in with its ideas (like the wireless communicator AKA cell-phone), what is LoGH's excuse? It doesn't have one, it's just not creative enough. What's strange is that one would think, given the absurd amount of historical and political babble, that this show would've given equal care to imagine life in a futuristic outer space, but it doesn't.

While the creativity and story of LoGH is sickeningly weak, its artistic merits were more worth my viewing. Classic and orchestral music scores carry the scenes well, though the scenes themselves look bland; characters are barely animated, even compared to other anime of this era. It's very stiff, not that it needs to be extremely fluid for characters to sip drinks and talk.
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>>150383176
Caught me
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>>150382848
Mushishi and Monster are absolute shit. There I proved you wrong.
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>>150383316
LoGH is an OVA and Galaxy Express is a character drama with lots of action.
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>>150383390
lmao xD
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Monster is about 40 episodes longer than it needed to be. Show really dragged on.
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>>150383350
There's some shocking scenes of gore randomly spread about, too, but the action mostly comes down to these short bursts of lasers, explosions, and blood effects. It lumbers monotonously on the dance floor, but it does it to a classy sound-track, at least.

The main attraction of this show is, apparently, the dialogues between the Mary Sues. Admittedly, they are pretty entertaining for a good 50 episodes. They touch on a lot of subjects that are relevant even more in today's world than they were then, which is surprising and delightful. If you keep up on current events, or even politics in the slightest, there's a lot of meat for you here to dig your teeth in. This raises the question, though: why aren't you just reading about politics? The ridiculous set-up of this story's conflict, and the sheer "greatness" of its main characters makes taking its subject material seriously impossible, yet it practically commands you to.

Let me sum up, and re-phrase that last part. The main attraction for Legend of The Galactic Heroes is the ability for one to say "I watched something from the 1980s that nobody's heard about or cares about". Then one can say "It was mature and intelligent, despite the fact I learned nothing". This show is a waste of time as entertainment, this show is an example of what NOT to do with a show about the future, space, philosophy, politics, and the human condition. There's a reason only MAL and hipsters care about LoGH, and everyone else knows Star Trek and Star Wars. Star Trek (classic) and Star Wars (classic) had vision and creativity that inspired generations and scientists. LoGH has 110 episodes nobody watched, flat characters nobody would recognize or identify with, and a literal universe of wasted potential.
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>>150382848
The only one I haven't seen is Ergo Proxy but I like all the other shows at least a little bit.
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>>150383496
How did MAL react to this?
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>>150383044

I like 999 as much as the next man but I found it incredibly boring a lot of the time considering it uses the same formula throughout the entire series of Tetsuro getting his pass stolen but ending up befriending the person who did it.
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>>150383600
I agree. Worst of the bunch is Texhnolyze which is either a 5 or 6/10.
I'd call the rest at least 7/10

>>150383624
When you spam literally who reviews like this, nobody cares neither here nor there.
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>>150383467
>i have a short attention span and can't watch more than 13 episodes of something if it doesn't have constant action

you have to acknowledge that the pacing, amongst other things, was realistic

the whole scenario with a serial killer in general can take years to resolve (if they don't get given up on and tossed aside as an "open case")
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OK OP, you convinced me to watch Ergo Proxy. What is that show below it?

I have to say though, Mushishi is a boring piece of crap that leads nowhere. FUCK your "comfy" anime, dickhead.

Monster is also boring.

NHK is shit.

The rest ok, still have to finish Planetes though.

Actually, fuck this, only EVA and LOGH save your fucking list. Ergo proxy better be good.
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>>150383696
You know when you have a rehearsed talk on some subject that you like and repeat to various people ad nauseam? That's how lots of later half Monster feels. Its length should be cut at least 10 episodes.
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>>150382848
Quality thread, OP. Don't be so sad though, when I was 15 I did the same.
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>>150383727
texhnolyze
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>Ergo Proxy
>Welcome to the NHK
>not Lain
>not Tatami Galaxy

Come ON, anon
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>>150383961
Thinking about it I would replace Texnolyze with Lain
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>>150384042
Texhnolyze is a piece of utter shit anyway, but that doesn't change the fact you are still an underaged faggot from MAL who've seen 100 anime or even less.
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>>150382848
Evangelion and Mushishi are sweet, but the others I've seen are rather mediocre. This is the kind of "actually good" list someone with a very shallow interest in anime would make, I think if you spend more time on the hobby a lot of those choices will become underwhelming.
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Texhnolyze is shit after Yoshii-san dies.
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>>150382848
Texhnolyze is garbage save for the last couple episodes.
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>>150384161

If you want an shadow 14 year old's list of good anime here it is:

>Sword Art Online
>One Piece
>Fullmetal Alchemist
>Death Note
>Sports generic (Ippo, Haikyuu)
>10 more shitty romcoms
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>>150384314
>>150384272
Now fight!
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>>150382848
Lets do this;
Ergo Proxy 10/10
LoGH 10/10
Mushishi s1 8/10
Mushishi s2 9/10
Planetes 8/10
Texhnolyze 5/10
Neon Genesis Evangelion 10/10
End of Evangelion 5/10
Monster 8/10
Welcome to NHK 9/10

Pretty good list. I love how all the "oldfags" in the thread are bashing it for having "bad" shows rather than not including better ones like Fireball Charming, Digimon Tamers or Night on the Galactic Railroad.
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>>150384561
Digimon Tamers is legit good dawg
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ITT : retards overrating Ergo Proxt
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>>150383287
More like Mushishit.
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>>150384561

Ya I took out Texnolyze for Lain >>150384042
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>>150382848
Where is Lain?
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>>150384594
That's why I put it there. OPs list is pretty good for what it has. The problem is what it doesn't have.
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>>150384561
Ergo Proxy 6/10
LoGH 10/10
Mushishi 10/10
Planetes 8/10
Texhnolyze 7/10
NGE 8/10
Monster 9/10
NHK 7/10
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Ergo proxy is a good solid fucking 0/10. the twists were obvious from the beggining, the atmosphere is terrible and the pacing is horrid. Not to mention retarded episodes like that walt disney or whatever the fuck it was thing.
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>>150384355
>Death note
>good
you fuckhead
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>>150382848
what's the title of top right? i looked it up and only got "naughty anime." i like space stuff
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>>150383467
I couldn't make it past like 4 episodes, does it ever pick up?
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>>150384900
Planetes
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>>150384930
it kind of stops and stars, 5 episodes are exciting, then 5 episodes are boring, frustrating to watch desu
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>>150382848
go to bed ThatAnimeSnob
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>>150382887
t. Kyoani drone
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>>150385025
he hates Mushi actually
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Ergo Proxy is bad
Monster is mediocre
Welcome to the NHK is decent
Everything else is great

Fuck you
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Ergo Proxy is overrated as shit just because it "feels different".
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>Ergo Proxy
Never watched it
>LoGH
it's great but a big investment of time, you have to pay attention while watching
>Mushishi
I don't like episodic stuff unless it's comedy
>Planetes
Pretty good
>Texhnolyze
Excellent
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
Amazing show, but you feel really drained and depressed after finishing it
>Monster
I prefer the manga... and even then i prefer 20th Century Boys
>Welcome to NHK
Very good show
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>>150382848
The guy in the bottom right pic has 2 right hands, I can't possibly expect that shit to be good.
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>>150385280
>because it "feels different"
That's a valid argument though. It definitely isn't terrible. And until someone tops it in feeling that way, it's the best.
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>>150384561
>nge rated above eoe
>splitting eoe from nge (especially eps 25/26 at all
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>150385920
>make a good action movies and conclude plotlines in a good way
>then sperg out about le I exist
Existentialism a shit, ruined it.
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>>150386033
>the entire fucking point of the anime is introspective existentialism
>eoe had the best action scene in all of evangelion anyways
Kill yourself
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>>150383727
EVA and LOGH are the shittiest shows on that list, congratulations for having the taste of a toddler.
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>>150387038
>the entire fucking point of the anime is introspective existentialism
No, the entire point is examining problems and experiences of characters in a dark robot show. Conclusion why Shinji should live is shit.
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Why do I keep coming to this site when everyone's a fucking idiot?
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>>150387201
>examining problems and experiences of characters
Aka introspection.
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>>150383375
>>>/ssc/
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Why can't new anime be good HUH.
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>>150387844
Mushishi ended just a year ago.
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>>150387844
You should be excited right now, Lelouch.
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>>150383044
>Childhood is having your own opinion.
>Adulthood is being contrarian
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>>150382848

I can't
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>>150382848
Your opinion is your own, but I would rather change it to this.
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>>150388270
There you go man, all set.
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>>150382848
Texhnolyze is the only good anime in that pic.
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>>150388426
You forgot a few.
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LOGH, Monster and Ergo Proxy are all garbage.
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>>150387844
I wanted to say there are none, bu then I remembered Lupin III Blue Jacket and Mushishi ending last year. I've yet to see a good anime in 2016 though.
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>>150388578
Eh, Diamond is Unbreakable is pretty good. Most of the episodes look like shit, and it's a fairly bad adaptation but it's still somewhat entertaining.
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>>150383316
>lotgh is a political drama
On the same level that Star Wars is, yeah. Both it and the source material it's adapted from is just teenager sci-fi fiction, don't overhype it.
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K-ON is objectively better than Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It is the most sophisticated anime ever created; a tour de force, the pièce de résistance of animation! LoGH is little more than plebeian dreck in comparison, its creators wishing they could have produced an anime with even an inkling of the genius contained within Our Holy K-ON. From the profound debates about eating cake, to the highly philosophical discussions about procrastination, to the marvelous musicianship exhibited by the Light Music Club, K-ON has established itself as the greatest intellectual anime. You cannot disagree unless you are a terrible person. Seriously. It's an infallible law of the universe. K-ON is a masterpiece, and we all know that K-ON has the superior tea scenes.

"A phenomenal chef-d'oeuvre. My fifteen years of work on Evangelion now feel trivial by comparison." — Anno Hideaki, esteemed anime director

"During a time of struggle, K-ON's beautiful story provided the influence needed for me to become an ideal president. I am now a better man." — Barack Obama, 44th president of the United States

"I am an uncultured lowborn with pedestrian tastes in anime." — Anonymous plebeian, speaking in reflection of his love for LoGH
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>>150383134
Who said I'm in the closet, leftie scum.
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>Talking shit about Texhnolyze
Yall niggas need better tastes
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