>"kill all the Japanese" Watching Code Geass for

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>>150354325
You can't handle the edge. Go back to moe.

>>150354325
Literally the best part of the entire season.

>>150354325
True.
Tbh code geass is good but it's full of this kind of asspulls like that and muh edginess.
Enjoy the ride if you can.

>>150354392
Oh I'm not arguing with you there. I was laughing my ass off the entire rest of the episode.

>>150354325
>I think this is one of the biggest asspulls I've ever seen
Oh, it's contrived as fuck, but you haven't even started seeing true asspulls yet. S2 is like a almost Kubo-tier writing.

>>150354325
How is this an asspull though? It's just absurdly over the top.

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If it had a jump the shark moment, this was it.

>>150354325
Lelouch was overconfident at that point and time and was also thinking of ways he could get his plan still done subconsciously.

It was a bit of a stretch but not the biggest one the series pulled overall

>>150354325
You thought people like this show because it's good? It's not called a hilarious trainwreck because it has high quality writing or artwork.

>>150354325

Wait for second season and the eternal chink

>>150354325
>asspulls
Code Geass is filled to the brim with asspulls but that doesn't really fit the bill for this scene.

I can't be bothered to talk about CG with fucking secondary newfags.

It makes me kind of sick to see you all trying so hard to fit in to be honest.

>>150354325

What was her name again?

>>150354325
I honestly thought it was pretty great and it made sense that Lelouch would lose control of Geass and would cost him greatly in the worst possible moments and that was easily the worst possible timing so it made sense.

What was shit about CG was the whole school dynamic that was unneeded as well as this whole angst shit with Lulu and Suzaku.

>>150354325
It jumped the shark from mediocre edgy keikaku show to top tier entertainment, yes.

>>150355446

The issue isn't that he lost control of the Geass it's that he lost control of it when saying to most plot contrived stupid thing possible.

>>150354881
ABUNAI!

>>150354325
When I first saw this I screamed for about 15 minutes. This wasn't an asspull, but God if its not the worst possible thing to happen.

He literally could have said something like "Make me some tea" or "Dance like an idiot whenever I say Kumquat" or "Suck my dick and swallow my cum" and this shit wouldn't have happened.

You just made this thread faggot

>>150355364

That's Sailor Moon.

>>150356744

You underestimate the madness induced by Lelouch's tainted semen.

>>150354325
It's not an asspull, that shit was forshadowed by C.C's warning with Mao, and Lulu fucking himself over in his own Hubris

>>150356744
This guy has the right idea. It's upsetting to watch, but not because it's an asspull, so much as it's all the wrong pieces falling together in all the wrong ways leading to an awful consequence that people could see but at the same time didn't want to think could happen.

>>150354325
Code Geass was the Guilty Crown of its time, it's not supposed to be any good.

>>150354325
>I don't know what an asspull is - the post.

I remember /a/nons theorizing about this very thing happening weeks before it did. There were threads about "what if Lelouche's geass goes out of control like Mao? How could it fuck things up?

The moment I saw this episode and I knew he was meeting her in private I think half the board was convinced he'd geass her to either attack and wound him OR to order the genocide of the 11s in the stadium. I mean the path to get to that second option was a little windy, but considering people were theorizing about his geass going out of control for weeks prior there was NOTHING about this scene that was an ASS PULL.

>>150357753
>Code Geass was the Guilty Crown of its time, it's not supposed to be any good.
said by a 12yo who hasn't watched EITHER show.

>>150358281
This, OP is a fag.

>>150354506
Even the director of S2 said that S2 was a fucking trainwreck. He apologized to his coworkers and friends for even being associated with it.

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>>150354325

I think you miss the point.

Yes, the incident a random and unlikely thing in itself. But that's the point. Lelouch has been playing with fire, and here, at long last, he is burned.

In real life, too, complex schemes are prone to be derailed by mere accidents.

>>150355264
>Doesn't know what a secondary is

Is this bait?

>>150354325

jajajaja that's regular CG. Jumping the shark comes later orange kun

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>>150355264
>secondary
I don't think that word means what you think it means. newfag

>>150355264
How do you become a secondary of a original anime?

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>>150357567
>it's all the wrong pieces falling together in all the wrong ways leading to an awful consequence that people could see but at the same time didn't want to think could happen.

Isn't that what an asspull is?

>>150355364
euphanasia

>R3 won't be even half as fun
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

>>150354325
Yeah, that was a bad case of being written into a corner. Either they made Lelouch go full evil and have him purposely do it, or they absolve him of guilt by making it an unfortunate accident/asspull.

>>150354325

He wanted to give her examples of the shit his geass could command her to do.

>>150360629
Yes, but of all moments for his geass to evolve into a permanently "on" one it had to be that instant? That's the asspull that kept the revolution going instead of just fizzling out.

>>150354325
Yes, also when I dropped the show.

>>150360182
No, an asspull is when something completely random and unforeshadowed is introduced, so the plot doesn't fizzle.

This was completely foreshadowed, and the only people arguing that its an asspull are retards who don't know what the definition of an asspull.

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It was a trainwreck from about episode three and it just kept getting more and more ridiculous.

>>150360834
Yeah it wasn't an asspull, just lazy writing.

How come Lelouch's Geass never evolved to the point where he could hide it again? Charles' did.

>>150360889
Mao set the whole thing up though. It was foreshadowed perfectly.

>>150361109
See
>>150360653

>>150354325
>I think this is one of the biggest asspulls I've ever seen
>C.C. tells Lelouch about the Geass getting uncontrollable
>Mao shows up to highlight her statement
>Lelouch spams his Geass all the time
If you actually believe it's an asspull, you're retarded and CG is somehow 2deep4u. It was clear an event like Euphinator would happen from the start.

>>150354325
Jumped the shark? No, that is when Code Geass mounted the shark and rode it to eternal glory.

>>150360653
Still not an asspull.

>>150361319
It's not but it's lazy writing.

>>150354688
He literally could've said anything else

>>150356744
It was a deliberately absurd order to make a point. A genocide of Elevens contrasts greatly with Euphemia's character and motivations (see: Euphie resisting the order even while dying); she'd never do it, but his Geass is absolute (for the most part).

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>>150356744
>When I first saw this I screamed for about 15 minutes.

Because you realized that you would never get to see Euhpie's tits, right? That was some grade A bullshit right there.

>>150361164
In the instances before the meeting with Euphie it was pretty clear that Lelouch was having problems with the geass. It kept activating and giving Lelouch a headache.

It even did it while in the meeting right before Euphie revealed her plans. It was in the aftermath of Lelouch accepting that he lost that it permanently switched on.

Not an asspull.

Watch from 12:30 to see what I mean.
Watch from 11:30 to see a dropped plot line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paSQTrkpxv8

>>150361448
See
>>150361335

>>150361297
This. Euphinator was CG graduating into something truly special.

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>>150361297

>>150356744
You are retarded.

She would've sucked his dick without needing him to ask.

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will season 3 discuss the witches and where geass comes from? finally?

>>150361462
Everything was foreshadowed correctly and nothing was out of place.

If you want to talk about lazy writing we can discuss the second half of R2.

>>150361632
The writers banked the entire future plot of the show based on a fucking coincidence.

>>150361375

He does say "shoot me" and "dismiss Suzaku" immediately before saying that but he's not making eye contact.

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>Even the Japanese know they have to be gassed

But who will make Anime?

>>150361725
It actually is pretty funny that the savior of Japan in this show is a white guy. Not only that, he's a British white guy from British-flavored America. That's, like, whiter than white.

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>>150361629
Either they will spend some episodes on that, or they'll spend the time having Suzaku and Lelouch dress up in drag in order to bake the world's biggest burrito.

You decide which is more likely based on past geass.

How does Marianne's geass work on C.C.?

>>150354881
>Hi, is this Pizza Hut? Yes I'd like an extra large peperoni 12 inch, and hold the Geass please
>No I said hold the Geass
>NO GEASS

>>150359790
>Lelouch Died
>S3 confirmed
kek

>>150361696
You're right, the fact that Lelouch decided to help the truck that crashed and ended up with the geass was pure coincidence.

Lazy writing am I right? The entire future plot of the show is based on that truck crashing on Lelouch's way home from a chess match.

>>150361970
>You're right
I'm always right, I'm glad you finally realized this.

>>150361980
not yet

>>150354325
It's not an asspull; it'a feasible given the rules of Geass previously set up. It was unexpected and exciting. Kys

>>150355264
He misused the word secondary, but honestly this.

>>150360016
By only reading the manga adaptation?

>>150362032
This just proves you're wrong.

>>150360016
You watch it more than three years after original air date.

>>150354325
Read the LN.

>>150354325
Definitely the most retarded point in the series.
I wouldn't really say it jumped the shark though since nothing that comes after compares to this bullshit

>>150362261
So it's these people vs nostalgiafags? You guys need to lay off the refrain.

>>150362281
Black Knights turning on Zero. That was pretty bullshit.

>>150362294
It's these people who haven't discussed it vs people who have discussed it to death.

People don't like discussing what's already been settled.

Asspull or not, I've never had a problem with Code Geass's writing because these plot turns pretty much always raise the stakes.
When asspulls bother me in other series, it's usually because it's a cop-out that solves the problem, but even though Code Geass has retarded shit happening, it uses that to fuel the crazy train.

Basically, I agree with this guy >>150357567

>>150362486
Code Geass is the kind of show I love to watch, but also dread to watch. I can't wait for R3 and I'm also dreading it. Which character that I like will get fucked up this time?

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>>150354325
You can keep making this thread as much as you want. No one agrees with you. Sure it wasn't the smartest plot point in the world but it wasn't an ass pull. It had a point and it kept the story going just fine. Lelouch wouldn't haven't been so damned devastated afterwards if it was just some ass pull. It proved that things can go wrong sometimes and not just follow some plan. Not to mention the rage it inspires in the viewer. It was a moment that makes the show more memorable and if you weren't cackling during the fact or angry then you shouldn't have been watching up to that point and dropped it ages ago.

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>>150354881
>one of the humorous episodes made the series jump the shark.
Come the fuck on.

>>150362356
Season 3 just got announced, of course there will be discussions of the show again.

The problem with the scene is that Lelouch gets away scott free like a little mary sue, and doesn't suffer a single punishment from it because he's le ebin and super smart.

Seen enough of that crap from Death Note.

>>150360866
I thought it was her vagina for a second.

>>150362630
Right, but you have the people who know all the arguments, and the people who picked it up a few months ago and believe they are making valid arguments.

I'm just explaining it from >>150355264 point of view. I couldn't care less.

>>150362486
>When asspulls bother me in other series, it's usually because it's a cop-out that solves the problem, but even though Code Geass has retarded shit happening, it uses that to fuel the crazy train.
This. The reason CG is so awesome to watch is because they somehow manage to escalate the crazy every single episode until the very end.

>>150362687
Turning terrible circumstances to his advantage is like, his whole thing.

>>150362799
>Implying there is such a thing as objective knowledge-based superiority when subjectively evaluating the plot points of an anime.

I mean, I watched the thing 10 years ago, but that's still pretty dum.

>>150362687
His sister died. He was forced to invade Tokyo as Zero. His sister was kidnapped. Brainwashed by Charles.

Got away scot-free, am I right?

>>150362855

He didn't give a crap about his sister. Or anyone for that matter. He was Mr. Edgy murderman and everyone was "le sheeple pawns".

This part wasn't bad IMO.

For me the jumping the shark happened around when the mechs stated flying. It wasn't the flying mechs themselves that were the problem, it was just around that point in the story as I remember.

>>150362848
I didn't say it was a smart view point.

>>150362882
>He didn't give a crap about his sister. Or anyone for that matter.
I don't understand how anyone can actually think this.

>>150362882
That was obviously a front. He had to pretend to hold it together for the sake of everything. He was vomiting after killing Clovis and shaking, crying and had to be comforted by C.C. after the Euphie incident.

>>150362920
It's called bait.

>>150354325
Euphinator is the equivalent of guillotine gorilla in samflam, show literally jumped the shark two times and set up the new trainwreck standard that R2 would follow later

>>150362940
It doesn't make me mad or anything though, just confused.

>>150362886
Actually I think it WAS the flying mechs, or at least they were part of it. The knightmare frames were a neat take on mecha because, while they were clearly powerful, they weren't world-breakers, and they had limitations. In R1 you always saw them working as part of coordinated land forces, filling a niche. The exceptions were the hero units like the Lancelot, the Guren, and the Gawain, but they were marked as special from the beginning.

But in R2 fucking everything can fly and Knightmares are invincible. I realize they explain this a little bit with mass production, but it's still lame. Not to mention the fucking Knights of the Round and their specialized knightmares which can all fly, even though that fucks up the technology curve that R1 established.

"Jump the shark" is not synonymous with "asspull."

>>150362965
Bait doesn't have to make you mad. It just has to generate (you)'s.

>>150362611

Don't get me wrong I thought it was hilarious too, but if someone was watching it with any hope of a serious show, that is the exact point where those expectations would be shattered.

>>150362985
>Not to mention the fucking Knights of the Round and their specialized knightmares which can all fly, even though that fucks up the technology curve that R1 established.

Gawain was the first Knightmare that could fly without the booster pack. Even when it was stolen, Britannia still had the technology. It's not a stretch that during the time skip the Knights of Round Knightmares got outfitted the same way Guren was outfitted with Lancelot's gear.

>>150363132
Not the cat chase?

>>150354325
can a show really be said to have jumped the shark if it was never good to begin with?

>>150363148
The show makes it seem that the Knights and their knightmares have always been around, though.

Fuck, in that case, why didn't we see them until R2? They were clearly just created to see toys.

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>>150355264
>m-muh secret club
>I-I'm supposed to be the only one who knows about this animu

>>150363191
Something about them not being deployed in Area 11 or busy else where.

You also have to consider that Knights of Round weren't a thing in the first season.

I also have a vague recollection that some of the Knights' Knightmares weren't finished as of season 1.

>>150361753
>americans
>white

>>150363298
White enough to vote for Trump.

>>150363284
The Knights of the Round are meant to be this special, elite group of pilots that clearly have an established history. However, as you note, they're nowhere in sight in R1. Surely by the time of the Battle of Tokyo, at least one of them would have been deployed there to help Cornelia put down the Black Rebellion.

But, again, they were an R2 creation specifically designed to sell more toys. That's why they don't fit the world that R1 established.

>>150363335
You have to consider that the timing between the massacre and Battle of Tokyo is roughly a day, not enough time to call in reinforcements from across the Pacific.

The Knights of Round were also deployed in Europe during the events of the first season since there was a war.

It seems like a bit of a stretch to use the part of a sentence that could only be construed as a command on its own, without any of the rest of the thought it was a part of, as justification for it being treated as one

But hey, it's Code Geass, shit goes crazy all the time.

>>150363449
Curses and shit man.

>>150361753
To be fair, that's the thing with Code Geass

In episode 9, Kallen calls Lulu out on being a dick for thinking the 11's should be a bit happier with his lot. I wasn;t sure if he was doing it to throw Kallen off, or if it was his real views, but it supposed to call into question how he'd be the right person for this sort of job.

You know, using the Knights of Justice as a cover for TERRORISM, when in reality all he wants is to fuck Britannia up

>>150354325
>Would you all say that this is the point at which Code Geass jumped the shark?

First episode. It was always stupid as hell.

>>150354325
I'm glad the thot died for a dumb ass reason, everyone wanted to suck her dick

Code Geass is redpilled. A bluepilled SJW PC faggot like you wouldn't understand.

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>>150354325
fuck i'm still pissed this happened. IT COULD HAVE ALL GONE RIGHT.

>>150354325
>jumped the shark
It was the peak of the entire series, but season 2 had some bits that were better than the pre-massacre episodes.

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>>150363334

>white enough to vote for orange

Fucking hell, i'm sure i seen this in japanese, but it was so long ago i'm stating to have doubts. The English VA was the same guy who did Vash

>all these threads with Euphinator OP
Fuck it. Time to bust out the Kurimomo feel-good doujins.

>>150365616
It could have been so beautiful. She's naive, but she knew it and would have made for such a beautiful governor. ;_;

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>all these fucking newfags everywhere who've never watched CG/watching it for the first time due to the sticky

>>150357753
Guilty Crown was great, fuck off

>>150354325
It's a show made entirely out of asspulls and edginess.

Don't worry to much about it, just sit back and bask in the madness.

>>150354325
I see you have no idea what jumping the shark means. That scene was perfectly implemented within the plot and it wasn't asspulled at all, it made perfect sense

>>150356744
Yes but you have to consider the fact that this is a tv show.. let's say he ordered her to make some tea instead.. so she would make a tea.. and let's say the emperor was like "fuck it, i'm not fucking with the collective unconsciousness" and then there would be no interesting plot and the show would be boring as fuck... so things like this are simply needed for the show to be good

>>150354410
>code geass is good
>but it's full of this kind of asspulls like that and muh edginess

How. Anyway, I watched everything and I fail to see why everyone likes it. Maybe it's one of those 'it was good watching with /a/' cases.

>>150367530
>bad writing is needed for the show to be good

This does not compute.

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>>150363132
Even the most serious dramatic shows take the time to actually breathe and give the audience moments of "levity". Anime does this constantly. I'd feel sorry if someone watched any given show and just expected straight drama or straight suspense. I mean I agree sometimes depending on the story you don't need comedy but changing up the story from death, crying, and suffering keeps your audience engaged with the characters.

So what was up why lelouches retarded master plan?
Basically his big idea was to establish himself as an enemy of all humans so that they can come all to work together and hate him, and when he dies everyone will keep working together all happy and singing songs?
Is he really that naive?
The second he-the big bad wolf, is dead, everyone will go back to squabbling with each other their various reasons and the world will be exactly as it was before. Worst plan ever.
The correct thing to do would be to stay alive as an emperor, or president or whatever and use his immortality to watch over the word peace and defend it (which has the added bonus of the entire world not hating him).
He is supposed to be this super smart stragist and shit yet he fails to understand something so simple as the human nature? That ending was just stupid.. i am very glass a new season is coming out, maybe we will get a better ending that actually doesn't rely on a stupid broken plan like that.

>>150360016
>Not reading the original cels

>>150367576
It was one of the few series I've watched like that that had a very good ending. Of course, that might not be true in a couple of years, but to me the ending is one of the most important things in a show (It's basically the culmination of the entire build up, so a bad ending leaves a bad taste in my mouth).

I also like the ideology themes, how most of them are fighting for the exact same thing using entirely different belief systems. How Lelouch, despite hating the belief system of his father and opposing it, is basically proving it in his struggle to take it down.

I also like the big animay tiddies.

>>150367805
I hate a bad ending as well. I have enough bad depressive and mundane shit to deal with in my real life... so it's nice when shows i watch for fun don't add to that list

>>150354325
Stop confusing asspull and plot device.

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Euphemia "Gas the japs" li Britannia
Euphemia "Going mental on the oriental"li Britannia
Euphemia "Drowned the Chink in the Kitchen Sink"li Britannia
Euphemia "Nuke the spooks" li Britannia

>>150367576
you'd had to have been there man
edginess didn't used to be a meme back in the day

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>>150367753
If you have a million question go and watch the show again. Its not complex in the slightest.

>>150367576
There's two schools of thought for those people who enjoy Code Geass. While pretty much everyone realizes that its melodramatic shlock, one group of people enjoys the series despite its flaws, the other group enjoys it for its flaws.

Honestly I found the ending that lots of people seemed to like really stupid and contrived, but I still enjoyed Geass Sundays for the absolute madness that was R2.

>>150367914
Zero reading comprehension then?
I have no questions. I asked a rhetorical question "His ultimate plan is shit." Then i proceeded to explain why.

>>150354325
Yeah I know if someone as flawless as you had the Geass power you'd thought

>I should never make jokes because my power might change one day and activate by itself

>>150367990
He did get a headache though just moments before, so being as smart as he his he could have realized that something was wrong, specially when he knew from cc that his power will shit itself sooner or later.

>>150362313
I don't really think so. I mean, the ending of R1 put a lot of doubt in peoples minds, when a lot of people thought he abandoned them to die. There was also the parts where he showed casual nonchalance at the death of his loyal members, the massacre of the Geass institute. Then the fact that he was (supposedly) a Britannian Prince who ordered the massacre of the Japanese in the Nip zone showed (to them at least) how he was just using them as a means to an end, or worse, becoming controlled opposition in order to deliver the rest of the world into the arms of the Brits.

I mean it's not like the completely broke up the core movement when they turned on him, the price was the liberation of Japan. That was the goal of those at the meeting from the start.

I don't think it was bullshit because there was a fair amount of setup.

>>150367984
What does that even meme?

My favorite part was where Lelouch Geassed the Planet Jupiter into killing Charles and Marianne

You can't top that. It makes Charles look like a retard for not trying that earlier.

>>150368085
They turned on him way too easily though, basically the enemy showed them some evidence where a lot of it could be easily fabricated and they just ate it up too easily

>>150367990
One of the problems of it was his arrogance. It never crossed his mind that this power could, indeed, go out of control for him.

Sorry, but I'm not a teen anymore to like this type of character.

>>150354325
This scene was fucking stupid but the series mostly picked itself back up going into the finale.

Next season another cutie dies and the rest of the series from that point on is only good for laughs.

>>150368158
I assume they were waiting to see his identity.

You have to admit, if coupled with everything that made him seem like a power hungry dick, the identity of your leader was the literal prince of the enemy nation, you would feel a bit betrayed.

>>150368235
The enemy played their cards well, but still in my opinion it wasn't enough for knights to turn on him like that. Even though he had made some mistakes, he made huge advances for the rebellion.
Even kallen flipped way too fast, without seeing any evidence all they said to her was "lelouch is a bad guy" and she was like "ok" sure he said to her he was in that scene but she was smart and would have realized that it was just a very basic ploy from him to safe her life which would be in peril if she protected him
To me it was simply a lapse in otherwise great writing for the show.

>>150354325
Is OZC's release still the best?

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>>150360866
that pic