Contrarian thread

>>150333789
I'll start:
VN adaptations don't work and LN adaptation suck.
Forced melodrama romance shows (anohana, Ef: a tale of memories) are the worst.
Baccano does not need a sequel.
Old berserk tv show was amazing.
Code geass is an unoriginal trainwreck.
DTB season 2 was not that bad.
Durarara was long and boring.
Elfen lied, narutaru, higurashi, ima soko no iru boku were all edgy trash.
Rebuild of Evangelion sucks, and it's a waste of Annos talents.
Fate/zero is the only good work by nasu and butch.
Tsukihime anime was just as bad as the route it was based on.
Kara no kyoukai was pretentious trash.
Fate/stay night does not work as an anime, no matter how pretty it looks.
Madoka and psycho pass were both badly written.
New anime is not even trying to be good.
Sports anime sucks.
Miyazaki is overrated and quite boring.
Yugioh season 0 was great.
Re zero was bad.
Phantom: requiem was unwatchable.
Gate had the worst directing ever.
The first half of Sao also sucked.
Everyone had sex with everyone in Utena.
Dubs > subs, always.
K-on (and sol in general) is a waste of time.
The finale of katanagatari was both terrible and clever.
Parasyte anime was great.
UC > any other gundam series.
Manly anime is pretty great.
Steins gate is not that good.
I don't agree with the messages of NHK and the main girl is a negative character.
Oreimo was bad and really hard to watch.
Samurai champloo was not that great.
Haruhi is not that good, without nostalgia goggles.
NGE episodes 24&26 > end of Eva
Rei Ayanami is the best girl.
Jojo parts 1&2 are better than 3&4.

I enjoy anime.

>>150333798
>Dubs > subs, always
Makes most of those opinions pointless, since you never watched the shows in the first place.

>>150333798
Like half of those aren't even contrarian

Cowboy Bebop and Lain are atrociously boring and I had to force myself to stay awake for the first two or three episodes before dropping it. Fuck the Cowboy Bebop OST in particular.

>>150333798
>Dubs > subs, always.
Too far.

This is a quality thread

Jibun Wo was the worst R1 OP

>>150333798
>Dubs > subs, always.
only thing i agree with

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>>150333798
>Dubs > subs, always.
good bait you managed to get me to reply

>>150333789
/a/ is good

>>150333789
World Conquest Zvezda Plot was a great anime.

>>150333798
>look at my shit taste

Code Geass is not a masterpiece.

most new light novel adaptations are basically the same show and its all A1's fault

>>150333798
>objectively worse directed and acted voices are better than the source material

There's having an opinion and just being plain wrong.

>>150333789
>Jojo parts 1&2 are better than 3&4.
this is 100% legit

Mayoiga wasn't a trainwreck, it was just plain awful. The threads were also shit from day one and I laugh at anyone who says they only stuck with that garbage "for the threads" as if they were trying to experience VVV or CG again.

There were some honestly good shows in spring that didn't get much attention because everyone was circlejerking to this turd.

>>150333798
> Old berserk tv show was amazing.
>Elfen lied, narutaru, higurashi, ima soko no iru boku were all edgy trash.
> Yugioh season 0 was great.

> contrarian

>>150333798
>Dubs>Subs
mein nigre

Kenshin Tsuiokuhen sucks fucking balls and if you've read the adequate chapters of the manga it's even worse.

>>150333789
AIR was good

>>150333789
Anime is shit
you all suck dicks

>>150333798
Like most of those are actually true and not contrarian.
Try bating harder.

>>150333975
fucking this. it was a downright terrible anime

fullmetal is mediocre at his best
evangelion is boring as fuck
death note is just a "power up in hard moments" show
boku no hero is just naruto with superheroes
One piece is shit; a endless childish. drama forced, repetitive, bad drawing shit
Dragon ball after freezer saga is filler

>>150333975
It is honestly the worst fucking anime series ever created.

Genei wo kakeru taiyou was a good anime

Cross Ange was good and I unironically enjoy it

Even with its flaws, I can sincerely recommend SAO's first arc to anime newbies, since it has a true ending that doesn't need to be expanded upon.

Jojofags are cancer, even though I like the series a lot for its suspense and creativity. But the whole series is so flawed and it bothers me how people can shit on other animes by having similar flaws but Jojo is so well respected even though it reads like a 10 year old kid writing it, in both good and bad ways. I hate how jojofags think they're the shonen elite.

KLK had everything I ever wanted in an anime and I couldn't enjoy it because of its popularity. First time that happens to me and it caused me a 6 month worth of depression. The only enjoyment I get from it now is when people don't like it, then I suddenly feel happy about it. It's too passionate and pure for any of these pigs.

The Evangelion manga is narratively stronger than the anime. Though I like both because the anime is a work of pure sincerity and soul pouring, I think it's the weaker version for those looking for a better narrative.

I dislike yuribait not because it's yuri, but because it's crystal clear it's pandering for fapping purposes. I like to separate my faps for my stories, but I do not oppose fanservice, just the focus on it

Texhnolyze isn't depressing because there's no possible upside entertained at any point.

It is just boring, a mechanical series for nihilists.

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>>150333798
>Dubs better than subs
That's not contrarian that's objectively wrong

>>150333974
Absolutely.
Even with the dull middle of Part 1, it builds more characterization between the protagonist and antagonist than any other part. Part 2 doesn't have any filler and everything is always moving foward in creative ways. Part 3 and 4 are just filler with cool fights, but filler nonetheless.

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Anime ruins lives.

It did to me.

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>>150334241
Anime saved my life in high school, anon

>>150334241
Anime doesn't ruin lives, it just eases the pain when your life is already in a poor state.

>>150333798
>dubs>subs
Now you have done it

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Robotics;Notes is great

Tamako Market should have had the yuri ending

>>150333867
>>150333897
>>150333973
>>150334214
>>150333829
I don't care if the japanese guys voiced it first or if the director picked them. I am not going to pretend that I like or even care about japanese voice acting. Dialouge that I can understand > random, well acted gibberish. It's just a waste of the audio track. I want to watch the show and listen to it. Reading the subs takes away from watching and the Japanese language dialouge makes half of the audio useless. So any time I see a choice between a sub and a dub, I pick the dub without hesitation.

>>150333789
I prefer official manga translations in almost %99 of cases.

>>150333789
Code Geass wasn't entertaining and the show has a bad fanbase

>>150334375
enjoy your old women voices pretending to be high schoolers

I am angry.

ANGRY ABOUT YURI.

3.33 was fine.

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>>150334416
Are you implying undubbed anime doesn't have that? Plus to go even further old women voice little mascots, grown men, and even little boys in undubbed anime

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>>150334378
That's not really contrarian though. Even the worst of TokyoPop can't compare with the worst of official releases.

>>150334451
In a couple of forums I get a shitstorm every time I say that.

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>>150334451
>worst of official releases
worst of fan translations.

I fucked up.

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A hentai series has room and possible precedence to feature actually compelling story and interesting characters

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When the show has a main male character and it's not a harem and one of the girl's fall in love with him it's actually often pretty boring and just makes the show worse off in the end, even if the girl is best girl

>>150334391
It's the truth, you don't seems to be a contrarian

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>>150334482
That's what you get for venturing outside of /a/. Remember: "you're here forever" isn't a joke, it's because as shit as /a/ is, the rest are worse.

>>150333798
>unironically pretenious f/a/g

>>150333798
>>Dubs > subs, always

the job of actors and writers/translators should be to allow non-japanese speakers to understand what is being said, not to change it to "something the audience will (already) understand". That's just playing to the lowest common denominator, and the problem with dubs isn't the concept of dubs or even the voices themselves it's this shit. Subs are more accurate and therefore better, only exceptions are where the series was made with a western audience in mind to begin with.

>>150334449
>Are you implying undubbed anime doesn't have that?
Yes, usually seiyuus are around 18 to 25 when they voice high school characters

ITT: faggots that think their superior subs are perfect translations

Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu is garbage.
There's literally nothing good with this show.
Only the film is good.

>>150334602
at least there are more than 5 anime seiyuu working at the time

Trainwrecks, even the worst ones like Aldnoah Zero, Sword Art Online, and Mayoiga are inherently better than straight-faced mediocrity

Dubs are only better than subs when it comes to normalfag appeal shows; OPM and AoT being the odd exception

Waifuism devalues the character and leads to shitty waifubait characters who only appeal to faggots with shit taste

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>>150334375
I don't normally say this, but if someone were to break into your house and kill you right now, literally nothing of value would be lost. your taste is utter bullshit and you should honestly feel ashamed about yourself. goodbye.

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I don't think generals are detrimental to board quality, as long as the content is still anime and manga related. The users are responsible for their low quality posts, not the topics they post about or threads they post in.

I'm a happy guy.

>>150334449
But Elevens have old women that can do young girl voice properly, dubs sound retarded.

>>150334706
Good one

>>150334627
The only english dub that is better than the original japanese is vampire hunter d and baccano

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>Dubs > Subs
Oh America!

>>150333789
I like normalfag anime

Konosuba is overrated and it made me genuinely laugh only a few times

>>150334449
Never got into seiyuufus so I wouldn't know, but at least they sound as little girls, not like old and busted hambeasts..

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>>150334758
>Dubs > Subs
In some cases it is true though
Not for america at all with their awful dbz dub, but mexico

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As a Japanese fag, the dispute over making a strict distiinction between anime and cartoons is irrelevant and stupid.

>>150334375
I often wonder how clear-cut the divide is between anons who watch anime in the broader context of Japanese 2D media and anons who watch anime purely because they like cartoons.
I adore animation and cartooning, but I also see things like voice-work and the peculiarities of the Japanese language as part of the experience, to say nothing of how involved some seiyuu get with their roles and the production in general. To my mind, a show like KonoSuba would be absolutely ruined with a dub.

>>150334797
Anime used to be like that in the old times. For now it's the exception instead of the norms though.

>>150334832
>the dispute over making a strict distiinction between anime and cartoons is irrelevant and stupid.
the type of content and audience is completely different, anime is just a shorthand to separate them in a way that is easy to undersand

My List:

Clannad and similar melodrama shows like Anohana suck.
Re:zero is a near masterpiece.
Fate/Zero is boring
Moe-shows are cancer.
Every part of SAO is shit.
Erased is not as bad as people make it out to be.
Guren lagann is painful to watch

>>150334908
>That re:zero one

Sounds like bait

Stella is a breath of fresh air in this toxic era of hyper tsunderes who are growing more and more immoral and incredulous, yet win anyway.
/a/'s dislike of her has nothing to do with her or Asterik, it's because she's closer to a normal human being than any of their tsunderes they've mentally destroyed themselves into believing are good.
World's End Harem MC is a complete bitch and his moral values don't fucking matter in an apocalyptic setting, no amount of loyality is worth the end of humanity and who cares if it's a conspiracy the evil women government has proven themselves so inept that it's like being afraid of Wile E Coyote
Bleach is better than Naruto simply because Sasuke is the 2nd worst character ever put to paper.
Doms like Esdese (who steals Sasuke's first place title), Rachnee and Iris Heart are complete and utter shit, and you only like them because you've set your standards so low that you'd even take actual abuse just for attention from a girl.
Honoka and Eli are best Love Lives
Nico is worst Love Live
Toriko was actually good
And Usagi is second best Senshi after Makoto.

Madoka Magica is pure garbage

>>150333798
>Elfen lied, narutaru, higurashi, ima soko no iru boku were all edgy trash.
>Rebuild of Evangelion sucks, and it's a waste of Annos talents.
>Gate had the worst directing ever.
That's pretty standard /a/ core isn't it?

>>150334946
That's not contrarian though.
That's just what people who don't buy into the 'IT HAD BLOOD AND DEATH, IT'S SO MUCH DEEPER' bullshit know as fact.

>>150334931
No, its not bait. I like Re:Zero, apart from the animation in the later episodes

>>150334581
I have watched dubs, with the original subs on, and the differences are barely noticeable. Minor cosmetic differences, to make it flow better in English.

>>150333789
>GITS is overrated
>SAO was good for the first 14 episodes
>There's nothing wrong with streaming
>Haibane Renmei is ABe's best work
>the second OP of Code Geass is okay
>judging a show or character based on how hard your dick got is pathetic

You only hate dubs because you understand them. You couldn't even imagine the perfect English voice acting for something like K-ON because hearing what they say in your native tongue would make the cloying cutesiness all too obvious. Reading subtitles to the sound of foreign gibberish that only conveys the basic tone allows you to distance yourself from the unnatural dialogue. Or, as Harrison Ford once said, "George, you can type this shit, but you can't say it!"

>>150334832
To be fair anime often looks very different, feels very different and differs as a form of entertainment compared to cartoons that are produced elsewhere so a distiction is more often than not justified.
It's like with manga. It's comics alright, but the way manga usually utilises the medium of comics is very different of european or american comic book tradition.

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>>150333798
>>150333789

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Anime needs more strong female characters

>>150334694
>literally nothing of value would be lost
Actually, one movie would be left unfinished, and some books would not be released.

>>150334973
>>There's nothing wrong with streaming
Being contrarian doesn't mean being wrong

>>150335024
yes I said nothing of value would be lost. no one except for aspies want to read your shitty books I am sorry

>>150335018
>>>/theverge/

Alright, so here we go

Japanese Light hearted anime(Moe)<<Western Light Hearted Cartoons
The only Mechas worth a damn in this day and age was Gurren Lagan and probably Eureka Seven
Anime fucking sucks now of late, Ok?
Vivid Strike, and K-on are the only Loli that are good
Keijo is probably the most absurd show that is killing anime I've ever have the pleasure of watching, I want my 1 hour back.

>>150335018
it already does

>>150335061
>k-on is loli
what the literal fuck am I reading

>>150334975
>perfect English voice acting
>in tv-anime
Good one m8.
The only actually proficient dubs are found on really high profile stuff like Ghibli films because they can get the actual actors involved and not just the same band of anime and video game VAs that are found on everything.

>>150334837
I despise cartoons, but I watch anime, because I find the story and characters to be really interesting.

>>150335084
That's what I thought it was, please correct me

>>150335084
Any nomalfag would agree they look like children.

I don't like Madoka that much.

I think The last airbender is better than atleast 90% of anime.

>>150335104
No shit when 99% of anime is idolshows and moe sol

People who make broad generalizations never know what they're talking about.

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>>150333798
>adaptations are a mess
Most of the time I agree, but there are some exceptions here (Higurashi S2, Steins; Gate)

>Baccano doesn't need a sequel
To conservative; the only thing good about Baccano was the dub. The rest was shit,watch 91 days instead

>Old Berserk TV was amazing
I mean, if you like slideshows

>Code Geass is an unoriginal trainwreck
If your going into CG looking for originality you've already failed to understand what it was going for

>Higurashi etc are are edgy trash
WOAH there that's some spicy opinons

>rebuild of Evangelion sucks
I thought we were supposed to be being contrarian, not stating facts?

>Fate/zero is the only good work by Nasu and Butch
>implying it was good
Literally the character drama is the only good thing. The universe, meta, lore is just straight fucking trash tier

>Kara no Kyoukai was pretentious trash
It did aim a little high, but it was still okay until the closing movies

>Fate/stay night doesn't work as an anime
Anything works as an anime. Just because it didn't doesn't mean it can't.

>madoka
>badly written
The sequel movies yes, the original set no.

>new anime isn't trying to be good
bait

>Miyazaki is overrated
He really isn't, but the memery is as memery is.

>Re;zero was bad
It had bad parts, but it was at least above average

>first half of SAO sucked
Yes

>Dub > subs always
>always
What the fuck lad

>Parastye anime was great
Even after the fucking WUBstep OST?

>Manly anime is pretty good
yes

>Steins Gate is not that good
Really shit opinion here

>don't agree with the messages of NHK
I mean, it wasn't that deep to begin with.

>NGE episodes 24 + 26 better then the end of Eva
You know, having come to Eva late and then watching them in series then movie order, I kinda agree.

>Rei is best
Good taste

>Jo-jo parts 1&2 are better than 3%4
I assume your not talking about the manga? Because in that case your objectively wrong

>>150335018
Anime needs to stop focusing on the Japanese market and make shitloads of money by focusing on non-traditional demographics

Evangelion has to be one of the worst anime I have ever watched. With absolutely no story or character progression whatsoever.

It spends no time explaining any of it's lore yet will have 3 minutes scenes of characters just standing in elevators.

Its best episodes are the most generic ones which most reflect stories from the mecha anime they're trying to subvert.

Aside from EVA 001 all mech and monster designs are absolutely terrible.

It gets the feelings and experience of depression absolutely wrong. Just because a character says something that sounds deep, if the story does not in fact complement the moral or the characters actions complement the moral its worthless.

The entire plot just proves why people have to undergo psych evaluations before joining government organisations.

Samurai Flamenco is the greatest anime this decade and it isn't even close.

>>150335203
They can't even make a fantasy story that isn't an isekai anymore and you want them to try to appeal to a non Japanese demographic

>>150335214
Also all the girls are super generic.

>>150335203
I'd agree with this actually.

The reason why anime is stagnating is because it rarely produces anything that goes out of the average otaku's comfort zone.

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>>150335244
Exactly. I feel the industry has grown enough that they should try new things instead of focusing on pandering otaku bullshit.

>>150335224
This is absolute fact and well it survives on its own, you only realise how clever it is if you're a fan of tokusatsu.

Evangelion is the best cultural work to ever come out of Japan during the 20th century.

>>150335042
So when is your book getting released?

>>150335285
That's Cowboy Bebop

>>150335203
Dear God, writing like a true sjw...

Roman Reigns is the best former Shield member character-wise.

>>150334975
>You couldn't even imagine the perfect English voice acting for something like K-ON because hearing what they say in your native tongue would make the cloying cutesiness all too obvious.
People say this shit as if Japan doesn't exist. Hundreds of thousands of people watched K-On in their native language and enjoyed it.

>>150335329
But it's a well known fact they have shit taste

>>150335322
Making more things like Cowboy Beboop and less slice of nothing is hardly SJW

>>150335349
Yes of course. I'm sure more things like Cowboy Bebop will make "non-traditional demographics" to watch and buy anime. For sure.

>>150335244
That's because it's safe.
Producing anime is financially risky because of how the industry operates. Branching to appeal more to foreigners has the risk of alienating domestic audience so unless the way production of anime is financed is fundamentally changed, they're not going to just do that.
>>150335278
>I feel the industry has grown enough
Please, the industry has tried plenty of new and unique things. There is always some risky show every season. They are in the significant minority but that is because they are risky.
Look at the past and not only on currently airing stuff. As everything, anime as well follows trends, but there are always a few oddities.

>>150335299
>you have to be an author yourself to rate others' books

Idols are boring and only decent for waifu material. Music, dance, coreography, whatever are irrelevant. Same with k-pop, jpop and gay-pop.

Akira the movie > manga.
Nausicaa the movie > manga.
Hyouka is not a good show.
Miyazaki and Takahata are the only two commercial directors who hold up outside of the anime context.
Rakugo and Mob Psycho are no better or worse than something like Re:Zero.
Crunchyroll and HS are a dream come true.
Not a single sequel or remake worth getting excited for next year.
Not a single good show in two years.

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Yoshitoshi Abe is a hack fucking fraud, all his stories put me to sleep. Renmei's color palete is litterally dirt. Texnolyze makes me want to kill my self, only semi-decent thing he made was Lain and thats b/c of what a top class qt the MC is. (Also that sweet op).

>>150335442
>movie > manga.
Someone likes punchy meaningless endings

>Crunchyroll and HS are a dream
I think this has to be a pretty popular opinon if you were here for any real length of time and remember what fansubbing was like

>>150334609
This so much
This board overrate this shitty ln adaptation for no reason than the endlessmeme8

>>150334837
I like anime because I love cartoons. I do agree that the Japanese voice acting is a part of the experience, even if I'm mostly just watching because of the animation. THAT SAID, I prefer a good dub over subtitles. The problem is that good dubs are so rare, most of them just make me want to tear my ears out.

>>150335497
>>150334609
I mean, it was pretty revolutionary for its time.

>>150334375
Well i am finnish and only choose i had is to go with japanese so i cant into dubs anymore

>>150333798
>Dubs > subs, always.
Opinion discarded entirely.

>>150333798
>UC > any other gundam series.
Hopefully you mean Universal Century, not Unicorn.

It's kind of disgusting that this is even considered "contrarian", but Buu isn't bad. If anything it's a return to form with Toriyama having fun with his storytelling and composition again despite clear editorial fuckery. I'm convinced the people who act like it's comparitively bad are anime-only fags.

I think old FMA anime has way better story than a retarded mess of Brotherhood which relied only and entirely on characters being stupid at crucial plot points.

Cowboy bebop is not even that good what the fuck.
It's decent and way above average but the plot is bad, the characters don't act like human beings and are too forced. It's childish while trying to be cool by making characters smoke and drink.
13 episodes only would have been better

>>150333798
Contrarian to /a/, not your high school, faggot.

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>Obsesing over people's video players and being an autistic asshole about your super smooth forked MPC being superior is retarded
>Being dogmatic about dtreaming/torrenting is retarded.
>Madoka Magica was mediocre
>Mahou Shoujou is generally bland andboring
>S2 was the best season of Working
>Fuyumi Irisu in Hyouka deserves a slow and painful death
>Lucky Star episodes made by Yamamoto are way better than the ones made by Takemoto
>Kagami is best girl
>Kyoani after Yamamoto left is trash
>Ordet can do no wrong
>Fractale was good
>Yui in K-ON is an insufferable retard
>the Silver Spoon manga overshadows the anime in every way
>One Piece isn't interesting
>The Wings of Honnêamise is the best work from Gainax
>Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo are amazing works and /a/ only dislikes them because they're popular
>Code Geass is childish
>Pop Chaser was the best OVA of the Cream Lemon series, the acclaimed Ami arc(s) were pretty dull imho
>girl (make) is a funny meme
>Izetta was unsalvageable after episode 4
>People who pretend there is any kind of romance and force yuri/het wars in Hibike are despicable human beings that have been shitting up the threads for 2 seasons straight
>*sips* was a good meme
>Love Lab needed more girls-boys interaction and yurishippers need to die
>Dagashi Kashi is a shitty series that can't even though ecchi well, it's only saving grace are Hotaru's outfits
>Kids on the Slope was a memorable anime
>Cat's Eyes was the best anime the 80's produced and the fact mature, sexy and mysterious girls have been replaced with moeblobs post 2000 is a travesty
>Genshiken's first OP is better than the second one
>Rosario Vampire manga isn't as shitty as /a/ makes it out to be

>>150335185
>>adaptations are a mess
>Most of the time I agree, but there are some exceptions here (Higurashi S2, Steins; Gate)
I don't consider the teenage A-team and time travel dating sim, to be good examples. There are good LN anime out there, but not much.
>To conservative; the only thing good about Baccano was the dub. The rest was shit,watch 91 days instead
Now that's a shit opinion. Baccano was great and miles better than 91 days.
>I mean, if you like slideshows
Stop it with the slideshow meme. The show clearly respected the material, the visual presentation and the soundtrack were spot on. The show had this feeling of dignity to it, that the movies and the new show lack.
>If your going into CG looking for originality you've already failed to understand what it was going for
Enlighten me.
>WOAH there that's some spicy opinons
Every pleb out there thinks that these shows are deep and mature, because little kids get tortured and killed
>>Fate/zero is good
>>implying it was good
It was fun and enjoyable.
>Anything works as an anime. Just because it didn't doesn't mean it can't.
It only told 1/3 of the story. that is not how storytelling works, and that is why VNs don't work as anime.
>>madoka
>The sequel movies yes, the original set no.
Yes it is, it had so many flaws.
>bait
Nope, they only make trash now.
>He really isn't, but the memery is as memery is.
His movies are boring, characters are bland and the morals are way too in your face.
>>Dub > subs always
I already stated my reasoning somewhere in this thread.
>Even after the fucking WUBstep OST?
Yes. I hate dubstep, but tracks like luna, I am, hypnotic and next to you are really enjoyable.
>Really shit opinion here
It's only good at the beginning.
>I mean, it wasn't that deep to begin with.
It had a single message, and I disagree with it.
>>Rei is best
>Good taste
Thank you.
>>Jo-jo parts 1&2 are better than 3&4
Parts 1&2 had a moving story, while 3&4 are just boring, villain of the week filler.

>>150333789

Threads with ITT in the title or OP are always extremely high quality

>>150335525
No it wasn't.

>>150335536
Inam estonian, And I stream dubs.

Forgot to say
>One piece is one of the worst shonen

>>150335637
Most of these are very true.

JoJo part 7 while inventive in its setting was incredibly boring and slow and is not even in any way intellectual.

code geass isnt all that good, so is haruhi

>>150334072
I agree with this guy on fullmetal

>>150335779
I'd say it was good until Hughes died.
She lost her balls and couldn't commit to any sort of loss afterwards.

>>150335650
>I don't consider them good examples
Still, I made the point and you agree some LN adaptations are alright.

>Baccano was great
Baccano was fucking shit tier in everything, bad writing, bad fights, clunky story telling etc

>the show had dignity
It had no fucking animation

>Englighten me
CG is the epitome of style of substance, it does what it does fabulously, but it's obviously badly written. It has a certain charm I respect

>Higurashi is all about torture porn
Well someone hasn't fucking watched it

>it was fun and enjoyable
Buzzwords, I see

>it only told 1/3rd the story
It cleared away alot of the unnecessary stuff. If you fully adapted a VN like 2/3rds would be slice of nothing BS anyway

>many flaws
Like?

>they only make trash now
Snob is that you? Anyway, take those nostalgia googles off

>Liking parasite after the OST
Well I guess it can work for some people

>it was only good at the beginning
The actual good bits of Stein are the middle and end, because it actually has things happening

>single message
"fuck neets"

>Moving story
>1&2
The early jojo parts were just the author trying to figure out what worked, it was extremely light-hearted and lacked the style and writing of the more developed parts

>>150333798
>VN adaptations don't work and LN adaptation suck.
>Elfen lied, narutaru, higurashi, ima soko no iru boku were all edgy trash
>Rebuild of Evangelion sucks, and it's a waste of Annos talents
>Tsukihime anime was just as bad as the route it was based on
>Kara no kyoukai was pretentious trash.
>New anime is not even trying to be good
>Sports anime sucks
>Re zero was bad
>Gate had the worst directing ever.
Thats not wrong tho

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>>150333789
>Contrarian
Best starter

>>150334176
Agreed. It became one of my favorite shows ever.

>>150333798
Almost everything here is true. Save for dubs>subs.

Traps are fucking gay and I say this despite having watched Boku no Pico some time before I came to 4chan in 2007.

>>150334231
>Part 3 is just Filler
Uh, how? The first half of the story is "we need to go to Egypt" and that's what they do. Would you rather they just teleport there and face no fights?

Granted, only Hol Horse & The Hanged Man through Justice was a good arc on it's own, but there were good individual episodes/fights like Lovers, Ebony Devil and Yellow Temperance.
The second half of the story is all good or interesting fights with the exception of maybe Telence. Again, there is no filler, I'm startingto think you don't know what filler is.

I'll give you part 4 though, Araki was really just flailing from the end of Nijimura Brothers to around Let's Go To the Mangaka's House. However it picks up the pace pretty solidly from there.

Evangelion's popularity is just a domino effect of sorts.
1. People feels obliged to watch the show because everyone praises it as "the best anime ever"
2. People watch it
3. Regardless of their personal feelings towards it ("I don't like it / I found it meh / I liked it but that's it") they join the "Evangelion is the best" choir to not lose their anime fan creed
4. GOTO 1

>>150333789
Anime is just advertising for manga.

Keit-ai does not find a way.

>>150335687
Well my dad was weeb so i grew up with anime mostly in japanese with subtitles

>>150334964
To be fair, I don't think anyone thought Madoka was deep. I liked Madoka for even bothering to put some logic on the magical girl concept, but it's still as surface level as something like Sailor Moon.

>>150336554
The only good fights of the part 3 were endgame fights and D'Arby bros. And while the whole "travel to Egypt" idea was great, a fuckload of retarded enemies killed the purpose. Part 4 was better but still had too much of a SoL feeling.
Part 5 is better than 1-4 tho.

>>150335061
>The only Mechas worth a damn in this day and age was Gurren Lagan and probably Eureka Seven
Gurren Lagan went to shit the second the timeskip happened and Eureka Seven is boring as hell

>>150336683
A LOT of people think Madoka is deep, anon.

>>150336579
Trying to untangle an individuals true understanding of the source material and the mainstream appraisal of that thing is pretty hard.

Although I find anons who prefer 24 + 25 over End of Evangelion tend to appreciate it more.

Mobile Suit Gundam is fantastic because it feels like an actual war and the White Base is genuinely fighting for survival. Even the Newtype thing doesn't feel forced.

Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam started a trend that sadly permeated many Gundam shows since: instead of a war you have a bunch of assholes and crybabies having slapfights with giant robots over philosophical differences or personal grudges.

>>150335214
>EVA has no plot or character progression
You can't actually be this stupid
>It spends no time explaining any of its lore
Oh okay
r/darksouls is a different website buddy
And the elevator thing is an obvious budget cut, blame the industry for being shit not the team that clearly can animate if paid properly
>best episodes are the most generic ones it tries hardest to subvert
I agree, I find A Human Work to be probably the strongest single episode. This was almost explicitly the entire point, anon.
>all mech/monster designs are terrible
Neat opinion man
>it got the feelings/experiences of depression wrong
Considering most of the emotional tone was born from Anno's own subjective experiences and not some universal checklist of "how to be depressed 101" it's pretty obvious that not everyone is going to relate to the emotional content. I'm not sure what you expected.

>>150335283
Yeah and if you're not a fanboy of Tokusatsu then you realize that SamFlam through the baby out with the bathwater the second it decided to become straight parody. The last good episode is the killer gorilla.

>>150336927
I know it's hard but try not to respond to obvious baits

>>150335618
Well Bebop was entirely designed to be marketed to the west, you have to be on-board for some forced cool and suspend your disbelief. Same with Shamploo

>>150335637
>Rosario Vampire manga isn't as shitty as /a/ makes it out to be
This is true, but the anime is such garbage it damages the manga's reputation

Elfen Lied's manga is parody. And good. While the anime is trash.

>>150333789
I really don't like Haruhi (both the series and the character) and I couldn't get past the first two episodes of TTGL. I've heard it doesn't really kick off until episode 7 or so, perhaps I should go back.

>>150333798
>Contrarian
A lot of that is mainstream /a/ opinion.

>>150336706
>And while the whole "travel to Egypt" idea was great, a fuckload of retarded enemies killed the purpose
Please explain how removing any opposition makes the story better

>>150336850
THIS

I hate angsty/self righteous/moralistic MCs.

Eren, Touma, Shinji, Kirito, etc, they all shit up their own shows.

>>150337123
There are two parts to TTGL and depending on a person he'll see one as infinitely better than the other. Also you can just watch the movies, they're pretty much both parts condensed each into separate movie.

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>>150336374
good taste

>>150337143
The key word here was "retarded". I have nothing against fights, but it was just a fest of trashy horrors from 80s.

I think fujoshi bait is less trash than yuri.

Fate is garbage.
Galko is garbage and only faggots who dream of being with 3D like it, there's nothing redeeming about it at all.
Cowboy Bebop is overrated as all hell.
Code Geass wasn't watchable, it's garbage. I was meme'd into watching it and come to conclude only idiots like it.
Half of the damn shows normalfags like to rant and rave about are extremely overrated i.e Cowboy Bebop, Code Geass and others.
>>150333798
I agree with most of this save for the Dubs statement.
There's only one dub that's worth a shit and that's the DBZ one only because I grew up listening to it and watching it.

>>150337232
And again, I don't really know what you would have wanted in its place. What makes Parts 1 and 2's villains better? Do you just prefer having a standout villain over villains of the week? Because to me, having any more DIO than we get in part 3 would have undermined the character.

I will concede that a fair number of Part 3's villains could be entirely cut while preserving the strength of the plot.

>>150333798
Pretty accurate for most part

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>>150333789
3DPD is fine too

>>150337287
I have nothing against villains of the week. It's just that a great part of part 3 villains were straight bad, which makes watching it a chore. It still has some fantastic fights, of course.

>Contraian
Ok

Charlie Brown> Every Moe ever

>>150337060
Oh yeah the anime is absolute garbage, there's no denying that.

>>150335637
>Madoka Magica was mediocre
Why would he s-
>Mahou Shoujou is generally bland andboring
There we got the problem. You're a faggot.

>>150336579
Eva's popularity was NOTHING BUT the fruit of outside factors.
>muh self-insert
>muh economic crisis

The only good things about PSG were the OST and art style.
Dialogue and humor were juvenile as fuck.

Zeta is the greatest Gundam show
Not a single Type Moon production is any good
Last Exile is garbage
FMA is overrated as shit
Samurai Champloo is better than Cowboy Bebop
Reinhard is the best LoGH character
Ping Pong is Yuasa's best work yet
NGE is 10/10 but only the original TV show, EoE was unnecessary at best

Air > Clannad

Madoka is a legitimately excellent show that suffers from having a terrible fanbase

>>150337753
>EoE was unnecessary at best
Are you ignoring the fact that large portioms of EoE are content that was intended to be in 24+25 in the first place? Scenes like Misato getting shot and Asuka at the bottom of the lake were intended to be in the original anime.
Saying that NGE itself is 10/10 but that some content that didn't make it in due to budget issues is "unnecessary" makes you sound like a pretentious twat

>>150337787
There's not a single excellent show with a fanbase which fanbase is not terrible. Save for Aria

>>150333845
>fuck the Cowboy Bebop OST in particular
OVER
THE
LINE

Texhnolyze was okay at best

Pretty Cure had nice animation but seeing girls in magical girl frills jumping and kicking like in chinese martial arts movie made me cringe.

The main TTGL cast sucked ass and was the biggest reason why post-timeskip sucked.
The side cast in TTGL was what made it fun.

>>150337812
The first half of EoE is fine. It gives more context to the instrumentality. The instrumentality itself is better in the tv show (Gendo's and yui's motivations being revealed was also a plus in EoE)

>>150337906
Texhnolyze does NOT deserve its popularity. I was more entertained by Hyouka than by Texhnolyze. I can't even bring myself to finish it after several months.

>>150334375
>random, well acted gibberish
you do know japanese is an actual language, right?
though given the rest of your post, im sort of expecting you to actually be that retarded

>>150337992
Ehh, the Instrumentality depiction can go either way. I definitely appreciate Anno going back and spelling it out in full through EoE, but 24 and 25 themselves are also excellent (if incomplete).
Really I think the entire Evangelion opus (aside from Rebuilds) deserves to be digested fully, watching just the anime, or just EoE, or ignoring the manga leaves the experience incomplete.

Kouji's VA in Mazinkaizer was garbage and ruined the show for me.

>>150337753
>Zeta is the greatest Gundam show
The 08th ms team is better.
>Not a single Type Moon production is any good
Fate/zero was fun.
>Last Exile is garbage
It was one of few decent gonzo shows.
>FMA is overrated as shit
Duh.
>Samurai Champloo is better than Cowboy Bebop
Both are mediocre.
>Reinhard is the best LoGH character
Yang wenli is better.
>Ping Pong is Yuasa's best work yet
Tatami galaxy would like to have a word with you.
>NGE is 10/10 but only the original TV show, EoE was unnecessary at best
Completely agree.

>>150337187
The first movie is like a clip show of the first half of the TV series. The pacing is absolute shit and several interesting episodes are lost. The shitennou battles in particular are replaced by a ridiculous big battle involving all the bad guys at the same time.

On the other hand the second movie is much better than the TV version which was slow and boring.

The best way to watch TTGL is thus:
- TV series up to the time-skip
- second movie (Lagann-hen)

>>150333789
I love anime, Japan, and the Japanese.

Madoka, Sakamoto and One Punch have been artificially hyped by a/ and are all trash.

Moe is like our generals: recycle of old hype with the same boring and repetitive contents.

Every 'ice queen' clone of Rei Ayanami lowers the valor of the anime it is used in.

Fujoshit isn't shit and is mostly more interesting and richer than the other shows.

'Pretentious', 'edgy', 'deep' all mean the same and are buzzwords without contents for insecure people who want to hide behind words.

This place is overflowing with samefags.

~gatari series is a pile of horse shit.

Anime studios should try to invest more into Western audiences as the Japanese audience is constantly shrinking and is only limiting the medium's creativity

>>150338065
But that's his original VA, maybe you meant Shin Mazinger?

Or are you implying Kouji's original VA is garbage?

>>150338018
It might be a language, but it still sounds like gibberish. And I will not learn fucking japapanese so i can watch anime.

>>150337812
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the hints for that connection were added in the remastered version of the TV series released after the EoE.

And even if that's wrong, and Anno intended for those scenes to be there so what? I'd still feel they'd be unnecessary and detract from Shinji's catharsis with EoE's colorful, orgasmic style over substance Instrumentality scene.

Shirobako is bad. "Look at us over at the anime studios we're suffering please buy more BDs"

>>150338111
>'Pretentious', 'edgy', 'deep' all mean the same and are buzzwords without contents for insecure people who want to hide behind words.
Then how do you sum up the problems of the show? Write an in depth review?

>>150338123
I haven't watching Toeizinger, but yes
The way he shouted attack names was so fucking weird, like his natural voice went up a few pitches just for the attack names.

>>150338174
>watching
watched*

>>150338142
No man, you're not going to trigger me. 1/10.

>>150336706
>>150337143
The old Strdust crusaders ova was nice, because it cut out most of the filler fights, and left in the most thretning opponents. Also, the DIO fight was better in the old one.

>>150338106
That's because the childhood part of TTGL is episodic and went longer than the adult part.

I agree with your opinion on the second part but the final battle was a lot better in the series. Tengen Toppa Gunmen kinda dragged out the whole thing.

>>150336751
How is Eureka Seven boring.

>>150338241
>Also, the DIO fight was better in the old one.
Kinda have to agree on this. New DIO's voice was more hype but overall the fight was less impressive.

>>150338275
Boring cliché characters with no clear motivations for doing things, mary sue love interests, generic White Base setup but without any of the tension

>>150338174
I think it's because he was fairly old (early 60s) at the time Mazinkaiser was made, thus his attempts at a "hotblooded young man" voice came off as forced and unintentionally hammy more than anything else.

>>150338348
>Boring cliché characters with no clear motivations for doing things, mary sue love interests, generic White Base setup but without any of the tension
This is all factually wrong

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My waifu is not an anal idol.

>>150338138
And 24/25 weren't style over substance? Really?
At worst they were flat out time fillers intended as a stopgap to prevent the budget from collapsing

>>150337287
>And again, I don't really know what you would have wanted in its place. What makes Parts 1 and 2's villains better? Do you just prefer having a standout villain over villains of the week? Because to me, having any more DIO than we get in part 3 would have undermined the character.

The story and the villains of part's 1, 2 and 6 were great, because the story was constantly moving and the villains

Part 1 has a great Dio/Jonathan rivalry and while it was slow in the middle, the important scenes still pack a punch.
Part 2 had three great villains, and a story that centered on defeating the villains.
Part 3 was looking for somebody with a lot of villain of the week fights.
Part 4 was looking for somebody with a lot of villain of the week fights.
Part 5 was looking for somebody with a lot of villain of the week fights.
Part 6 had a little bit more purpose. The enemies in the prison felt more natural, the fights were creative, the main villain and the hero had many encounters throughout the story (which made their conflict more memorable) and after they leave the prison, it goes back to a more part 1 & 2 ''stop the main villain'' style (with three extra villains for good measure).

>>150338111
>Madoka, Sakamoto and One Punch have been artificially hyped by a/ and are all trash.
If you don't like One Punch Man you have factually not watched enough anime

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>>150338383
then why can she only orgasm from anal?

>>150338382
Maybe it developed into more than that but I watched at least 7 episodes before dropping it and if you can't hook me in 7 fucking episodes then you're not worth my time

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I really and unironically like Guilty Crown.

I enjoyed Valvrave.

>>150338129
It's not even about learning.
If you don't have shit for brains in the language learning department, you will understand the vast majority of spoken japanese after a few years of watching them.
Like most anons here.

>>150338443
It's a 50 episode series. Of course there's no fucking tension or development that early on. You'd have to have watched it before to really enjoy the first cour.

Go watch it.

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>>150338434
That is not a thing.

>>150338383
I fucked you're waifu in the arse.

Anime would be better with loli lewdness.

>>150338413
Does that mean that I need to watch more anime so I can lower my standards and become able to enjoy it?

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>>150338508
so you're depriving her of anal because you don't want to accept that she loves it?

>>150338413
OPM is tumblr fujotrash. The only part worth shit is the 深海王

NGE is unironically the greatest anime of all time.

>>150333798
All of this are right though?

>>150338536
>lower my standards
You can't fully enjoy parody if you're not familiar with the material being parodied.
I would say that Mob Psycho 100 works better independent of its homage elements than OPM, so that may be more your speed, but a joke isn't bad just because you personally don't "get" it.

>>150333798
>UC > any other gundam series.

This isn't a contrarian opinion. /m/ will have a fit if you say UC isn't the definitive Gundam experience.

>>150333789
MLP > anime

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>>150338508
>>150338553
1. Because of Iori's small figure and young age, vaginal sex is extremely painful

2. Although her vagina is immature, her arse has been trained by several years of anal masturbation

3. Because of this, Iori can only achieve any pleasure in penetrative sex from anal

penguindrum > madoka. yes im still mad
/a/nons need to start observing the 'lurk until you've seen at least 250 shows' rule again
cowboy bebop was 6/10
monogatari is over all a good series

>>150338677
All are the truest.

>>150338166
I can comment without insulting anyone or anything. That's what smart/adult people do.

>>150338752
>smart
>adult
>people
Here are 3 words that have nothing to do with /a/.

>>150338752
>without insulting anyone or anythin
why are you even on /a/

>>150338413
It's the contrary, it's a patchwork of series I've seen since I was little, 42 years ago. There isn't ONE single idea that is new in it. Plus I've been living in Japan these last 15 years. I've seen and also read things nobody here knows about. A lot of it.

>>150338111
>Madoka, Sakamoto and One Punch have been artificially hyped by a/ and are all trash.

These can't be artificially hyped by /a/ when so many people like them so much. Sakamoto might be the only one to fit that but lots of people loved it before the hype died off.

Something artificially hyped up by /a/ would be something like Watamote.

>>150338805
Because there are still posts that don't contain any insult or desire to belittle or hurt others.

>>150338841
>Something artificially hyped up by /a/ would be something like Watamote.
This. WataMote is shit and /a/ should feel bad for liking this. The very example of a show where /a/utists self-inserted too hard.

>>150338501
Yeah, i understand it when a tsundere is yelling BAKA!!!!, at the top of her lungs But i just wont watch something in a language i dont understand.

>>150338443
It's literally the greatest love story ever told.

>>150338868
We can fix that, faggot

>>150338868
So ''edgy'' and ''pretentious'' are insults now?

>>150338922
I didn't say toddler level phrases, you braindead, but the vast majority of any conversations in anime.

>>150338841
No, there was love effectively, but it got drown into the artificial hype. The proof is these shows all went from cultish hype, to nothing.
Compare with Gurren Lagann for example. It's very clear.

>>150338952
Of course, because you insult the intelligence of the people who like these shows. You all perfectly know that these terms trigger people. That's why retards keep on using them or creating similar ones.

What do you think 'contrarian' was created for? It's clearly negative and was an insult to some people.

G T O
S U C K S

>>150338972
>Madoka
>went to nothing
Sure man, it's not as if the third movie was one of the most divisive movies ever and the anime is still considered everywhere as a recommended watch for anyone who wishes to get into anime. Not counting the recent Madogatari exhibition in Japan.

You're just trying to find excuses to shit on shows but it doesn't work. Just be like any other contrarian (oh the ironing) and say it's shit, you'd better off doing this.

the second season of kimi ni todoke was a waste of the manga's story

I think fujobait sports anime is on average better than otakubait haremshit.

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Penguindrum, Shin Sekai Yori, Jinrui and the monogatari series are all fucking trash.
It can't be me having ADHD because I love Mushishi and Kaiji.

Eva and Madoka are Ok shows.

Haruhi is shit and K-ON is Kyoani's best show.

Anime is mostly shit. Manga is better.

>>150339175
Did you watch Madoka ongoing?
And were you spoiled before watching 3rd episode?

>>150339039
>Of course, because you insult the intelligence of the people who like these shows.
Honestly, people who claim that shows like Narutaru, Bokurano, Elfen lied, Higurashi, etc. are deep and psychological masterpieces, because kids get tortured and killed, are pretty retarded.
You can either write an entire paragraph about, how over the top violence does not make the show deep or mature, or you can sum up that same idea in one word.

>
What do you think 'contrarian' was created for? It's clearly negative and was an insult to some people.
Im proud to be a 'contrarian', because it implies that i dont blindly quote the most popular beliefs for acceptance, but make my own opinions.

>>150333845
For some weird fucking reason, humanity tends to associate "weird+boring" with "good".

>>150333789
Evangelion is a good anime

>>150339259
Yes and no.

>>150338922
t.Xenophobe with low IQ

why are you even on /a/ you goddamn newfag

>>150334009
That's what majority says?

ITT:
People say a moderately contrarian opinion, get numerous (You)'s of agreement, we learn that /a/ is innately contrarian, doubles it's contrarianism back onto itself, and acts contrary to that, too.

>>150339306
i rarely see anything positive posted about air.
or well, i rarely see it mentioned at all

I'm not the biggest fan of Yotsuba&! It feels a little one-note to me.

>>150339263
>people who claim that shows like Narutaru, Bokurano, Elfen lied, Higurashi, etc. are deep and psychological masterpieces, because kids get tortured and killed, are pretty retarded.

Well when you live in a country so paranoid about kids that you can' t even show a baby's bottom in a diaper commercial without being sued for pedopornography, of course it is incomprehensible. That doesn't mean the persons who appreciate to see kids/women/animals also get their (natural and realistic) share of violence, are 'retarded'.

Yeah. 'Retarded', yet again aterm that proves that you're the one who stopped thinking.

You don't understand what 'contrarian' implies, here, on a/. It's never been about daring to have different ideas than the majority. It's about trying to force it on people.
See how people use it here?

'Oh don't mind that guy, he's just a contrarian'.

Congrats for being one of the people others know it's vain to discuss anything with.

Sakura did nothing wrong.

>>150333798
You truly have the most average /a/ taste ever (except for dubs>subs, that is actually contrarian, but it's so objectively wrong I don't care for).
Take the opposite of this list and that is a patrician contrarian.

>>150333789
>>150333798
OP you are such a nigger for making this thread for your own post

The universally loved anime on /a/ aren't universally loved because they are good, but just because they are so niche no one has ever seen them.

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>>150340242
>nobody has ever seen Beboop

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>>150340013
Who would argue with that

>>150340318
Dunno if that counts but I dropped it during the second episode, so that makes it both not universally loved and not universally watched.

>>150333801
Disgusting. Please go and stay go

>>150338957
Lol you think you know japanese because anime. Go to japan and try to have a conversion

>>150333789
Bananya is AOTY 2016!

>>150340869
I gained a decent level of understanding of the japanese language almost solely from watching anime. I didn't have any speaking skill so having a conversation would have been difficult (and still is actually, I haven't progressed much since then despite taking some lessons) but I could understand most of daily-life related conversations.

Then, of course if you only watch dubs there's no way you will learn japanese with anime.

Sakura Haruno did nothing wrong.

Yuri on ice is boring as fuck and looks like ass. Most overblown show this season, and I say this as a fujoshit.

>>150333789
Flip Flappers is by far the most retarded anime I have seen, even more than Excel Saga, and I have seen over 3000 shows.

>>150333798
>Code geass is an unoriginal trainwreck.
I liked (not loved) the first season, hated the second. Also had too many pointless, forgettable characters.
>Elfen lied, [x], higurashi, [x] were all edgy trash.
Add Black Lagoon and Deadman Wonderland on there and I agree, event though I really wanted to like them.
>Rebuild of Evangelion sucks, and it's a waste of Annos talents.
It also added empty fucking Mari and furthered waifu-ism in the fanbase.
>Madoka and psycho pass were both badly written.
Madoka was too predictable, too much crying lolis. I liked it for some things, but overall it didn't stick with me, and it shouldn't be milked as much as it has been.
>New anime is not even trying to be good.
Rehashed ideas that don't even try to be better, moe replacing ecchi harems, and stuff that starts out fine but is ultimately uninspired and bland in the end.
>Miyazaki is overrated and quite boring.
Kon all the way. Miyazaki's films might be good for small children, but as an adult I'm only interested in Princess Mononoke (haven't seen Nausicaa).
>Yugioh season 0 was great.
Battle City and Finals arc were good, too. Ancient Egypt Arc would have been better if Takahashpipe wasn't sick when writing the manga. Everything else is trash.
>Dubs > subs, always.
I prefer dubs on shows with obvious western influences because non-Japanese voices feel more authentic. Older series are better subbed because there were no standards for American VAs so they sucked.
>K-on (and sol in general) is a waste of time.
K-on is over-rated, and I watched through the whole thing trying to like it. Most people only seem to like it because waifus.
>Steins gate is not that good.
I couldn't get into it, keep hearing "but you have to wait until [episode]!" Nah sorry, if I have to wait until half the fucking series because the writers couldn't establish a good story within the first three, its not that great.

Can't comment on the rest because I haven't watched them.

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Mai-Hime's anime adaption was awful, and the manga was better.
Speed Grapher isn't that awful, though the "monster of the week" format did make it kind of annoying, it didn't feel too forced.
Every Digimon series but Tamers wasn't that great, Tri should never have been made. The only thing Adventure had going for it was half the characters being well written, but the other half felt abandoned. The movies for Adventure and 02 were okay though.

>>150333845
>Cowboy Bebop and Lain are atrociously boring
I'll admit, despite my love for them, they both had pretty boring episodes that I skip every time I rewatch them, and Bebop movie > most of the series.

>>150334072
>fullmetal is mediocre at his best
>death note is just a "power up in hard moments" show
>One piece is shit; a endless childish. drama forced, repetitive, bad drawing shit
^

>>150334186
>Texhnolyze isn't depressing because there's no possible upside entertained at any point.
^
Gotta have ups to make those lows stand out.

>>150334684
^^^^^^^^ could not agree more.

>>150334908
>Clannad and similar melodrama shows like Anohana suck.
Pic related
>Moe-shows are cancer.
^^^

>>150334973
>>Haibane Renmei is ABe's best work
^

>>150335018
It had plenty. Strong female characters was one of the sole reasons I preferred anime over almost any western franchises. Of course, moe kinda ruined that.

>>150335104
Atla and Korra both are way better than most anime these days.

>>150336374
Also true.

>>150337753
>Last Exile is garbage
Lavie was nearly pointless and annoying, Dio is obnoxious and his character didn't need to act faux retarded for cutesiness like fucking Ed from Bebop to have appeal, and Senpai killed the spirit of the original.

Toei is actually a good studio if you're not a fan of shitty battle manga.

>>150333798
>Sports anime sucks.
OH NO YOU DIDN'T

>>150334973
>Haibane Renmei is ABe's best work

That's not a contrarian opinion, that's a fact.

Love Live Sunshine is a horribly shitty anime, but its characters are top tier.

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Girls und Panzer is AOTY 2012 and a great example of how effective visual storytelling can be in anime.
The Girls und Panzer movie is AOTY 2016 and one of the best action films ever made.
Mizushima Tsutomu is one of the most talented directors in the industry.

>>150343457

Only hagfags will disagree with this opinion

Code Geass is forced animation

>>150335061
>Keijo is probably the most absurd show that is killing anime I've ever have the pleasure of watching, I want my 1 hour back.

Keijo episodes don't even have 30 minutes, kek

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>>150333789
Crunchyroll and Funimation are the best thing that happened to the anime industry in a while.

>>150333789
AoT was a very solid show and I'm impatient for season 2
There's nothing inherently wrong with battle shounen
Flip Flappers is alright but no AOTY material
8th MS Team is fucking overrated
Zeta's finale was inferior to that of 0079 in almost every possible way
IBO is good, /m/tards be damned
Rem is the single most overrated female character I've seen in years
Kyousuke is a much worse character than Kirino ever was, and Manami did nothing wrong
Samurai Champloo was better than Cowboy Bebop
The only really good thing about Unicorn was its soundtrack
Code Geass doesn't need a new season

>>150344296
>Kyousuke is a much worse character than Kirino ever was
This. Fuck that white knight faggot.

SDF Macross > Macross Plus
Macross 7 is good, it's better than Frontier

Blood-C is actually good. The build-up episodes have a great mysterious atmosphere to them and the action scenes are amazingly well-done. And the last two episodes are awesome in a "holy shit wow" way.

>>150334231
>filler

Im glad /a/ exists to quarantine retards

>>150343190
Can't argue with that.

I prefer watching anime with 'memesubs' when available.

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JoJo is a mainstream shit for anime normies.

>if you read the screenplay to LotGH and didn't watch the OVA's you wouldn't really be missing out on anything.
>Gen Urobuchi gets a lot of hate for no real reason other than people don't like his style
>Yoshitoshi ABe is one of the most original artist today
>.hack//sign could have been four episodes long and nothing would have been lost or worse because of it
>Most Visual Novels can't be adapted into a well made anime
>Light novels make terrible adaptations for the most part
>Almost every anime that revolves around highschool is fucking terrible
>The West has better comedy but the East has better Drama

>>150334314
What's now?

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Is it possible to be bigger contrarian shitter than this fat fuck?

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>>150345428
Who the fuck is that? Your granddad?

>>150334935
>yet win anyway
She had no rivals in first place and I wouldn't even call her a tsundere.
>World's End Harem MC is a complete bitch and his moral values don't fucking matter in an apocalyptic setting, no amount of loyality is worth the end of humanity and who cares if it's a conspiracy the evil women government has proven themselves so inept that it's like being afraid of Wile E Coyote
What about second MC?

>>150335061
>Keijo is probably the most absurd show that is killing anime I've ever have the pleasure of watching, I want my 1 hour back.
How is a show killing anime, you retarded newshit?

>>150345428
No. Guy really should move on, clearly anime isn't his preferred medium

>Part 2 had three great villains, and a story that centered on defeating the villain
Don't forget it has the best Jojo, best defeat of the villain and best battles

Streaming is the superior option. Convenient, fast and I don't notice or care about any difference in quality. Also, you can do it on your phone as well.

>>150334837
>broader context of Japanese 2D media and anons who watch anime purely because they like cartoons.
Cartoons are the broader context here.

I unironically believe Sex and Violence with Machspeed is the worst anime I have ever seen.

>>150345904
Sounds bad simply judging by the name.

>>150335452
The only top tier anime he's ever made is Haibane Renmei, and it's ironically the one that doesn't rely on emotionless protagonists and forced profundity. It's the one anime that goes hand in hand with his particular method of storytelling but is refreshing in its deceptive simplicity. People who don't like HR both hate themselves and are part of the reason why the whole medium has been going to shit for the past few years. And Haibane Renmei's color palette is great, it's sooting, eerie and goes well with the melancholic atmosphere of the show.

>>150333798
>Haruhi is not that good, without nostalgia goggles.
Why o people think nostalgia has anything to do with it? Nostalgia was originally (negatively) used to mean "something enjoyed as a kid that isn't actually good" because kids don't have standards. The amount of non-Japanese kids who watched Haruhi while it aired is microscopic; it was adults with developed sensibilities who were enjoying it atthe time. People are fucking idiots with their native language.

>>150333798
>Yugioh season 0 was great.
>season 0
Please die, 2008.

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You know, i am endlessly amused by the idea that somewhere out there in the world, a fat neckbeard sweating and raging while arguing about anime opinions on the internet.

>>150345904
It wasn't even the worst of these shorts, closer to best ones.

>>150346190
It's completely true, look >>150345428

>>150346006
Wasn't the teenage demographic the main audience for Haruhi? Just curious.

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>>150346277
My imaginary neckbeard is much younger than that though.

>>150346364
Him being older than you makes it more depressing (but kinda gives hope that there are worse people than you).

>>150346300
It was ten years ago, anon. Now anime is much popular and age (along with IQ and attention span) of average watcher is much lower.

>>150334581
Most dubs either retain the exact meaning or keep it the same and add a bit of pizzazz. For example, a character's speech patterns might come out in one line but not another in Japanese, but they retain the weirdness through the "plain" line rather than the "odd" one because it's a better place to do it in English.
>only exceptions are where the series was made with a western audience in mind to begin with.
This is a stupid way of doing it because most aren't meant for western audiences; they're a western-style series for Japanese audiences. Furthermore, they're a Japanese take on westernism, so westernizing it more makes no sense.

I generally advocate for dubs, in any case (though there are some with bad acting, and a bad translations are far less tolerable than bad acting). I'm in a weird place right now, though. For example, PSG and Baka & Test both take significant liberties with the dialogue, and I'm not sure if I should be okay with that because you're not getting the original jokes, you're getting original ones based on them. Then there are shows like Pokémon that have bastardized dubs, but the localizatio ln is actually good. Should I advocate for that because it's good, or should I be outraged at the changes? Or is it okay to make some (dialogue) changes for kids? Lastly, dubs started out as something made for fans of dubs. For example, Haruhi is a show I enjoy. I also enjoy the dub as its own production, though. Should I watch only the "real" one because I understand it, or is it okay to watch both? Should I see one as just a translation of the show, as a different version of the show (like a separate adaptation entirely), or a totally different show? There's a lot of interesting things to think about regarding foreign dubs, especially since the same character acting the same way comes off diffetently simply by being a different language.

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>>150346467
Where im from, 90% of people are worse than me so i don't have any problems with self-concept.

>>150334984
>>150334866
The audience being different is specifically because it's been marketed as a separate thing; that's why most fans of western animation/comics have a few high-profile, probably-airing-on-a-cartoon-channel seried.
The problem is that using separate language cause people to think the differences are innate and inherent, which is obvipusly not true. It also leads to morons thinking there is NO overlap or that certains can (or, God help me, should) happen in one or the other. I'm fuckinf sick of people telling me Avatar and RWBY are "anime style" despite both of them being super western in terms of visuals, Avatar in particular being a trendsetter in a style that was never common in Japan. I like the Japanese way of calling it all the same thing.

>>150333798
>DTB season 2 was not that bad.
But you're wrong and here's my (You)

the only show worth watching this season has been hibike

>>150334375
haha, all these butt blasted sub fags. Anime is cringe in general, that's why I stick to manga so I don't have to hear over the top shitty voices

The monogatari series is overrated.
Durarara!! Wasn't that good.
Haruhi is shit.
Re:zero wasn't that bad
SAO and Mahouka are shit, everything related to them is shit, and you are shit if you liked them.
Kyoani is overrated as fuck, most of their shows are just barely decent. They main appeal is in the waifus.
Cute girls doing x things is cancer.
Johnatan was one of the best jojos.
Incest is disgusting, even in 2D
Super is trash.
Keijo is actually good.