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was 2004-2010 the golden age of anime?

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was 2004-2010 the golden age of anime?
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"no"
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No, it was the golden age of /a/
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>>150281323
God no, pre-2000s were
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>>150281323
examples?
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>>150281323
God no. The early 2000s were shit.
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>>150281323
2006-2009 was the golden age
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>>150281323
>new game
>NNB
>yuru yuri
>kinmoza
>flip flappers

Nigger, we're living in the golden age of anime right now (2015-2016)
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>>150281382
>2004
>early 2000s
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>>150281637
It counts as early in my book.
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Late 80's were you stupid millennials.
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There is no golden age. Watch more weekly shit, keep moving on.
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Anime has always been shit.
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60s to 80s were good, if there's a golden period it's the 80s, all downhill from 90s on
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golden age was 74-83
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>>150281323
Fuck no, golden age was already long gone by then. Bronze age, maybe, if you're being generous.
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The golden age is now.
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>>150282010
there hasn't been a single good anime this year
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>>150281323
>golden age
>posts visual sleeping aid
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When is the golden age of yuri?
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>>150281323
I don't know but hyouka wa-..zzzz
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>>150282216
>>150282240
plebs
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>>150281323
golden age start on a 7 end on an 8.

> 1997-1998

> 2007-2008

> 2017-2018
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>>150282398
2017 looks like shit though
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I'd say 2006-2011.
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>>150282232

>looks infinity better than DBS

Why isnt this studio making it!?
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79-99
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>>150282704
>tumblr
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>>150281323
How anyone with functioning eyes can think that is beyond me.
Craft peaked in the 90s, which is really the only objective thing to say.
>>150281825
Enjoy your two episode ova adaptation of a five novel series. I love the art of the era but it's mostly wasted on adaptations.
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>>150282704
70-78 owns though, certainly better than the early 90s
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>>150282759
in what way did the craft peak in the 90s?
~objectively~ speaking the economy crashed and anime suffered for it
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2007
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>>150282763
90s some tv series and definitely the OVAs still had budgets. so you got ridiculous shading, details, and fluid animation. not to mention quality original sound tracks, instead of pop idol inserts.
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>>150282815
The 90s was the beginning of the proud 'pay them like its the 80s they'll work anyway' tradition.
Overall the industry expanded in the wake of Eva and it's production committee model. In fact it expanded in a way never before seen largely morphing into what we see today.

The only comparable event is the advent of dirt cheap digital production pushing out even more shows per year.
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>>150282815
5 layer shading
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>>150282950
>pay them like its the 80s they'll work anyway
what?
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>>150282990
There was a glut of labor in the 80's so wages were low (especially considering the economic boom).
These low wages have persisted since the 80s even though the situation that created them is long, long past.
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>>150282763
Yeah, but 70's are just too fucking old
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2017 is the golden age
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>>150283158
>anime hopping on the hollywood nostalgia / sequel / reboot bait bandgwagon
>good
You don't even realize what's happening.
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>>150283088
and that makes the 90s the peak of animation in Japan?
>the industry expanded in the wake of Eva
>morphing into what we see today
Do you consider what we see today to be a good thing? Eva is fantastic and it paved the way for a lot of good shit, but I can think of far more important works in the past which changed the industry in more positive ways.
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>>150281581

This desu senpai.
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>>150283158
there are like two things I'm looking forward to, and if I had to put money on them I'd bet they'll suck
2017 will be the worst
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The 2000s overall had the most good shows, anyone who says otherwise is just being contrarian
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>>150283320
contrarian to what, your bad taste?
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The "Golden Age" is usually whenever you got into anime, so you can look back on a bunch of 7/10 shit with nostalgia and call it a masterpiece.
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>>150283348
so everyone saying 70s - 80s got into anime way back then?
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>>150283320
the 1990s were extremely good because they had the most Megumi Hayashibara shows. Slayers, Blue Seed, Evangelion.

What did we get after 2000, Love Hina and Abenobashi? I mean Abenobashi is weird, and Love Hina certainly made its mark, but.
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>>150283342
pretending to like cartoons from the 70s doesn't make you look smart anon
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>>150283406
how have you not watchd BRAIGER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRHQjqtojwI
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>>150283406
counterpoint: refusing to try shows from the 70s makes you look stupid
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>>150283444
yo this OP fucking owns
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>>150283450
I've watched most of them, not many shows were made back then
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>>150283390
my first anime was Starblazers. I had to wake up at like 4am to watch it on some UHF broadcast station. then it was robotech, ronin warriors, VHS copies of copies of copies of fan subbed and pirated anime. Then Toonami happened in the 90s and it was good.
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>>150283512
>I've watched most of them
sure you have
what are your favourites of the 70s and what are your favourites of the 00s?
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>>150283487
dude it's yoshinori kanada. the man was a fucking genius. have you seen his credits https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1734
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>>150283390
I just can't think of anything other than nostalgia could cause people to suddenly call something like Code Geass a masterpiece.
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>>150282759

>Craft peaked in the 90's
>1990 - late 1995 deadzone

Objectively speaking, it peaked with Akira and the industry has yet to ever go up to that level. Ghost in the Shell was as close as it ever got.

>>150281323

It certainly was an age

>>150283206

They refused to realize it over the last few years, it surprises you that everyone has been Jibun WOOOOO'ing? They'll never learn. Never.
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>>150283573
Gundam and Ashita no Joe and that's about it for the 70s

I don't like Lupin or Rose of Versailles and that other crap
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>>150283594
of course, he's a legend

>>150283603
bad taste? presentism?
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Moe ruined the whole industry, and it started gaining real mainstream traction in the first half of the first decade of the 21st century
If anything, 2004-2010 was the beginning of the dark age
We are living in the worst timeline
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>>150283240
I really wanna put my penis inside of hotaru
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>>150283644
nigga you have seen nothing at all, don't tell me the 00s is the best if you haven't given equal attention to every decade
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where did all the cyberpunk go?
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>>150283661
that's like saying Jurassic Park and Toy Story were bad because of all the bad movies after them that had CGI
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>>150283646

A combination of all 3.

That, and the knee-jerk reaction of most /a/-browsers and reddit users was the Meme potential a 3rd season has.

That's what this board has devolved to, what shit can generate the most memes.
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>>150283720
we started living it
also cyberpunk is mostly tacky as fuck
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>>150283705
>asks my favourites
>lists them
>n-no you haven't seen my obscure 70s anime that doesn't really exist but I need to pretend it does to hold up my argument
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>>150283780
but I love me some 1980s retro future settings and floofy hair.

t. /m/
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>>150282591
Someone doesn't know how animation works.
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>>150283720

We're already living the Cyberpunk nightmare. We're just too lazy to bring our technology to that level.
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>>150283785

No, he's telling you that your list is as shallow as your greentext sarcasm.
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>>150283684

She's TEN (10), you pedo!
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>>150283615
>peaked at Akira
Akira is written all over the 90s, even in the cheaper but not dirt cheap tv work at the end of cel. If I were to consider a single work for peak of the craft it would still be Akira, but twighlight cel is more impressive as a whole and that's the 90s.
>deadzone
Yeah there's less ova (which were mostly trash anyway) and tv anime is in a panic until eva but that's not really relevant to top of the line unicorns which are already by their nature unicorns.
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>>150283785
To be honest I forgot I asked for favourites and I thought that was your "most of the 70s."
But really though, you've seen all of Dezaki? WMT? Future Boy Conan? all the mecha and sci-fi classics? you thought Lupin III was "crappy"?
If you've honest to god given it a shot then I can't and won't fault you, but I could never ever understand where you're coming from. Favourites of the 00s, since that's apparently the best?
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>>150282398

I'd say you're on the right track. Late 90s for true "golden age", late 00's for "silver age".

Promise I'm not a nostalgia-fag.
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>>150284021
>akira

excuse me

a challenger has appeared.
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>>150284049
70s work is less impressive than what the nips were doing in the 60s and was a mini dark age that lasted until 84ish.
>>150284133
I mean I'm the "90's was the golden age of the craft" guy. If I could with a straight face claim GITS was more impressive I would.
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>>150283989
You're right, I'm sorry. Komari (18) is much sexier.
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>>150282410
what the fuck are you talking about?
haven't you heard?
JIBUN WOOOOOOOO
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>>150284176
Outside of Toei Doga the 60s is a big blind spot for me, I'm afraid, but I'd definitely say what those guys were doing was brilliant. Was mostly only talking about TV with this guy though.
I don't speak nip and precious little is translated so I can only read about certain series, what about them is more impressive to you? Why would you consider the 70s a dark age? That baffles me
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>>150281349
>No, it was the golden age of /a/
This. /a/ has been going down the shitter. Especially since tripfags disappeared. It just feels stale and lifeless now.
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>>150284049
>you thought Lupin III was "crappy"?
fine for what it is, but it's episodic so don't care
>Future Boy Conan
Dislike it, I dislike everything Miyazaki has worked on desu

>00s
FMA & Brotherhood
Ergo Proxy
Millennium Actress
FLCL
Redline
Monster
Planetes
Kaiji
Welcome to NHK
Gurren Lagan
Kaiba
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Samurai Champloo
Texhnolyze
Death Note
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>>150284379
there's no accounting for taste, but I pretty much think yours is bad
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>>150284371
fuck off and die

Unless this is ironic, if it is it's too subtle
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>>150284379
>I dislike everything Miyazaki has worked on
But Cagliostro is so good.
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>>150284309
70s is like an entire decade they stopped trying. The 60s were rather nascent but they were experimental, mostly on the back of Mushi's stuff.

I can sit there and watch the Yamato movie, flying high on an unprecedented level of attention and money, and cringe at how bad the production is.
>big blind spot
Just working though the Mushi movies is a good start. The 60s are like I said, nascent, there's not a lot you have to see to have a feel for the decade.
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>>150284427
okay keep sucking that Miyazaki dick
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>>150284554
The production's are themselves quality though anonymous. They have very few equals.

Even Ghibli haters like Oshii like accept what they make is fine quality, even if they don't like what it ends up telling.
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>>150284631
>The production's are themselves quality
I don't disagree, I just think Miyazaki is a pompous far left idiot and this seeps into the themes of his animation
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>>150284554
sick

>>150284549
I really disagree with how you've got the 70s pinned. You and I can both cherrypick of course, but you can hardly look at the classics of that era and say they didn't try.
As for Mushi Pro I've only seen Animerama which is like exit level, any early stuff you'd specifically recommend? I believe I've checked and the bulk (or all?) of their TV work hasn't been translated. Unfortunate, there's a lot I want to see
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>this thread
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>>150284866
60's anime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMhM4QSVGeo

Ignore the bgm, it's too hipstar to be on sakugabooru and this is the only video I could remember off the top of my head. Just use the bgm to remember how bad the yamato movie looks despite it having way more going for it. That's how I see the whole decade. More time and money than the last decade but somehow mostly worse.

>>150284706
Hue that's almost exactly like Oshii. He called Ghibli the Soviet Union a bunch in the 90s. I always thought he was reading too much into it to be honest.
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>>150284913
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>>150284942
That's definitely on the booru, Miyazaki right? Absolutely know it from somewhere.
But really, you don't think you're being a little silly typecasting an entire decade like that? What have you seen from the 70s that you liked? Why not take that as a point of reference over the Yamato movie?
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>>150281323
>Won't experience late 90's or 2007-08 anime for the first time.
I'm trying real hard not to get hit with the life crushing nostalgia. First ones I watched when I started watching anime regularly.
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>>150281323
I don't know but Chitanda is literally perfect.
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>>150284371
>Especially since tripfags disappeared

What?
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Fuck no, the absolute dark ages especially after 07

The golden age for anime was 80-88
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>>150282232


Are those buns weighted though?
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>>150282232
1997
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>>150284273
Don't forget Panty & Stocking 2
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>>150284379
>FMA Brotherhood
Average shounen garbage

>Ergo Proxy
Ugly, amateur direction, heavy handed

>Monster
Urasawa is genuinely a misguided writer with no understanding of subtlety or to end a story

>Planetes
NINJAS

>Kaiba
Trainwreck

>Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Worse than NCIS, terribly written

>Death Note
Sexist teenage male power fantasy

Why do people enjoy the 00s? The period of transitioning between digital and cel generally marked an ugly decade for anime.
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>>150287791
>calling Death Note sexist

This is Trump's America now please leave
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>>150281323
No. Nene was not with us yet
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>>150284371
>no longer golden age
>tripfags dissappeared

Choose one
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Every year is shit if you look at it as a whole, there are only ever a few good anime amongst the pile of turd.
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>>150284371
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golden age for gundam
gundams are either idol shit or just garbage now
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>>150281323
Yes, it was the real golden age where old studios were still riding waves of revenue from older IPs while new techniques and know-how were encouraging experimentation since the growing pains of digital had been worked out. Larger amounts of money were being thrown around and combined with digital efficiency this meant that every transferred into higher production values than would otherwise be possible. The OVA market wasn't totally dead and the resource of LNs to adapt for source material hadn't already been strip mined out, there were still good ones to animate left.

It was short lived, and mostly accidental, but it was a magical time. Things aren't that much worse now but I as much of a meme as it is 2007 was one helluva year and there had to me some cause to create that effect.
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>>150290748
>this meant that every dollar transferred*
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>>150284942
That is a Toei movie though

I don't think many projects from the 70s got to command the same level of huge budget and ease of schedule while also concentrating pretty much the entire pool of industry talent available at the time
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>>150281323
2006-2011.

Anyone telling you otherwise is a dirty liar.

>opinions
Haruhi
NHK
CG
KnK
Spicy Wolf
FMAB
Clannad
Toradora
Gurren Lagann
Lucky Star
Madoka

Just as importantly, 2006-2011 was the golden age of torrenting, fansubbing, and fan culture, at least in the West. The period oversaw the golden age of fansubbing as an activity, and emergence of same-day subs via speedsubbing transport raws. The culture around distributing anime really hit a high point in that era, and is something we'd never seen before and will never see again.

2006-2011 also oversaw a period of impressive technical advancement in animation quality, albeit accompanied by the decline of high-quality cel animation.

In terms of sheer quality of anime, the period 1997-2001 is probably better, but in terms of distribution and culture the 2006-2011 period was a real high-water mark.
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>>150291418
That has more to do with internet than anime though.
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>>150284371
desu i feel the same way about /v/.

2007 was the best time on /v/ and the plethora of tripfags gave it a weird life. some were so well known. i liked how riled up they made everyone. i can't remember the last time seeing a tripfag, let alone one that i'd remember.
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>>150291556
I liked when we had the rei clones

why was that banned again?
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>>150291455
True enough.

Perhaps the medium did better in the late 1990s, but Western fan culture really peaked in the late 2000s.
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>>150291854
In terms of pure diversity, digital in less than 16 years destroys absolutely every previous decade put together.

The highest peaks though (at least in terms of production power) probably still belong to Akira, Honneamise and GitS. Although I guess an argument can be made for Redline and some Ghibli films (Ponyo and Kaguya especially).
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