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>Cockona
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Come back next thursday we're busy.
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>>150249770
Who gives a fuck about a pile of shit show like Code Geass?
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Who unleashed the autists on /a/?
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>>150250200
Lets flood the board with shit threads about the same thing. Simply epic.
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>>150250200
>tfw this is you and me right now
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What happens when you shatter a fragment?
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>>150250257
You don't.
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>>150250257
More fragments. Fragments win every time.
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>>150250307
Some fragments seem like pieces of formerly bigger fragments even
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>CG shit happens right after old thread dies

I was enjoying the end of that thread.
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>>150250615
Have a rest till Tuesday without usual shitposting
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>>150250662
Kill yourself.
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/448729278.htm

https://twitter.com/unicococ/status/802807822249406464
What did she mean by this?
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>>150249734
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>>150250718
waki
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>>150250718
>No Yayaka peeing in that thread
Sad.
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I... I wrote a song for Cocona.

You are my Cocona
My only Cocona
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Please don't take my Cocona away

I hope she'll like it.
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>>150250718
translation?
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>Flapika
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>>150249770
>we're busying spamming threads with 12 replies each guys so much hype XD
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>>150250856
>I will take pleasure, so I can not mind tweeting the work in the future ... The next 9 episodes are the times I watched until the final decision so I wanted to mute something, but I will keep going quiet. Please have a look
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Yayaka-chan...

http://satuyo.tumblr.com/post/153606590435
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>>150249734
I feel weird guys
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>>150250886
>70 different threads for Code Geass
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>>150250904
I did the machine translation too, but it makes no sense.
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>>150250810

I think this scene of them getting Yayaka to Flip Flap has been my favorite of the show
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>>150250951
Yayaka is my favorite character now because of this episode.
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>>150250852
Urusai!
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>>150250718
Something like that she is going to shut up tweeting about flip flappers because she doesn't want to spoil the enjoyment for people. Then people have said that she is shutting up about Flip Flappers because affiblogs and futaba making a big deal out of her tweets.
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>>150250951
Yayaka's tsundere was super cute this episode.
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>>150250951
Yeah, it was great, look at Papika being all: "You gonna flip flap you stupid bitch."
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>>150250942
He really likes the next / final episodes and can't stop twattering about it. He want's to say something specific, but he won't as you should watch for yourself.
That's what I got from it. No idea what it means besides: "Please watch my show".
He seems excited.
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>>150250856

>Because it ruins the fun, from now on I'll hold back from tweeting about work. Next episode 9, I watched it until the final draft, so I wanted to tweet something, but I'll do my best to stay silent. Please watch it for sure.
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>>150251039
She is saying she knows the final script for episode 9 so really wants to tweet about it but won't because it would ruin the enjoyment for other people. She is going to do her best not to tweet about it and then says please watch.
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>>150251039
>>150251132
thanks

hopefully it's not fake hype
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>>150250951
Yayaka all of episode 8 + intrigued noise Papika in episode 2 + mama and kid raiders are my top 3 kek moments so far, also here's a trucker Yaya.
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>>150251164
There is nothing about thinking the next episode is especially good there.
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I really liked it when they transformed this episode and it flashed back and forth between Coco and Papi, for some reason.
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>>150251026
>>150251039
>>150251162
>>150251164
>muh writer change
Though I'm glad she likes it, can't wait.
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>>150251227
That's a homage to Gunbuster.
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>>150251164

>Cocona/Yayaka childhood episode
>Twintail loli episode
>Cocona and Papika have a fight

The hype is real.
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>>150251202
I'd say her tweeting about how hard it is to not tweet about it says she's giddy about it at least, being Yuniko, i wonder if /u/ will have a heart-attack from this.
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>>150250918
Why ist this sausage with limbs so arousing?
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>>150251227

They kinda looked like they had an orgasm.
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>>150251242
They said having 6 animation directors was bad too, but ep 8 was the best /m/ shit I've seen in years.
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>>150251196
Nice.

>>150251255
That's what I thought it was, but it's been so long since I've seen Gunbuster that I was hesitant to place it there.
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>>150251039
can it be...

a k-kiss?
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>>150251291
It's not necessarily bad but can indicate some scheduling problems.
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>>150251330
Wew easy there with those kind of predictions, don't want any of us to cum early.
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I don't like this show.
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>>150251388
o no
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>>150251388
It's not even top 3 of all time.
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>>150251388
me neither, it's not even top 3
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>>150251388
Not even top 3 this season.
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>>150251388

are you gay?
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>>150251417
>>150251419
>>150251421
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>>150251388
I agree, not even a phantom world ripoff.
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>>150251267
The guy that posted it on the futaba thread interpreted it as her basically stopping tweeting because affiblogs made a huge deal out of her tweets about the writer change and other tweets about the show she has been making.

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/94973
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/95825

Nearly 200 responses over each time she tweeted. It is kind of a controversial thing to be doing I think maybe seen as poor professionalism on her part.
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>>150251477
too far
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>>150251388
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>>150251291
It isn't inherently bad but people worry when it is the case because it is often an indicator of rushed work. Usually it is preferable to have only one animation director in a given episode to keep a consistent style so multiple ADs tends to be avoided unless pressed for time. They did a great job here though I think.
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>>150251567
I'd say it's generally worse when these signs show up in early episodes as that implies the schedule problems could have snowballed through the whole production period.

8/13 having 6 ADs shouldn't necessarily be a big deal, especially when it was directed by a newbie who probably took more time than usual to figure certain things and get shit done. Not to mention important climax episodes tend to get more attention than middle episodes in general.
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What jungian cognitive functions are most heavily represented in this anime?
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>>150251641
Web gen animators aren't really know for mecha either so I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted someone different just for that too.
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>>150251503
Damnit why didn't I ever learn to speak moon language.
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>>150251641
Episode 8 was pretty impressive so I guess having a fuckload of ADs isn't really problematic in this case.
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>>150251682
Shun Enokido is pretty close to the webkei circle if not a web animator himself (not sure), unless you meant something different
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>>150251646
Introverted
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My absolutely baseless thought about the 6 animation directors is, that some of them did the real world stuff, some did the mechas and some did the cyberpunk city.
And others, the new ones were invited to learn and build their resume in this passion project.
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>>150251751
That is the whole point I am making. Mecha kind of requires the opposite of what those guys are good at doing.
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>>150251857
Well, checking the staff on sakugablog they mention Satoshi Shigeta. But he was more of a helper. I think the people responsible for how well the ep progresses on schedule are generally the storyboarder and episode director (besides of course the production runners, producers and series director who matter for all eps). This show has shown in many things that schedule is not a problem. And if you see who the extra ADs are, it's more like they helped fill in details of a fairly heavy episode like this, because they can. It's not like they had to call dozens of unrelated people or subcontract half the production to another studio, which are usually the things to look for in credits that tell you a production is falling apart.
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>>150251975
My whole point was there were plenty of reasons to have other more than one animation director this episode. Mecha animation is something that web-gen type animators aren't especially known for so having just Shun Enokido doing it would be less likely. It is pretty common on shows that have mecha all the time to have separate animation directors just for those scenes including mechs.
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>>150251975
>Satoshi Shigeta
So this is where he ran to instead of doing Izetta? Good choice.
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>>150252136
Considering Flifla's scheduling, maybe this episode was finished months ago. Hard to tell.
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>>150251766
I know it's such a common thing as to be cliche in anime, but Cocona is the most likable and relatable of that type.
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Cocona has a recurring dream that seemed to be going towards something, but hasn't progressed to that point yet.
We now know that the boat girl is Mimi, and Cocona is Mimi's "reflection" in some way.
Next episode is the last Studio Pablo episode.
If they are ever going to finish that dream, it has to happen next episode.
My guess is that in the dream (and possibly IRL) Cocona gets "eaten" and becomes a part of pure Illusion, just like Mimi was.
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>>150251242
I think they still took her original concept and ran with it. The whole story has her transgressive style.
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>>150252511
>her transgressive style
What are you even talking about? When has Yuniko even demonstrated a style? Everything she has worked on previously has been an adaptation.
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>>150252457
Wasn't last week the last Studio Pablo episode? Not the mecha one, but before that. People were complaining about the city setting this week for that reason too.
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>>150252694
Nope. They are doing episode 8 and 10 but not 9 or after 10.
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God damn it, why is Flip Flappers so amazing with fanservice?
And next episode they're bringing in an honest to god little child loli in a sexy outfit, excitement on the roof.
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>>150252807
Pablo didn't do 8. Pretty sure they're only doing 9 and that's it.
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>>150252905
Yeah I shifted all the episodes 1 episode in my mind.
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>>150252837
Its not blatant. This is how fan service should me.
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>tfw spending 180€ every month for this show
Anime is fucking expensive
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>>150252837
I-Is that a slit?
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>little child loli in a sexy outfit
Overalls aren't sexy, anon.
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>>150252974
Exactly, no "lewd" music and sound effects to blatantly say "in your face", yet one of the finest things.

>>150253027
It sure seems to be the case.
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>>150252974
>ass taking 90% of the screen
>not blatant
I would have agreed on any other episode, but 8 was really pushing.
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>>150253052
I meant this kid.
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>>150252974
It was beyond fucking blatant. Every cockpit was literally a cock pit. The handles were dicks and they were forced into lewd-ass positions.
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>>150253118
Is that a flying saucer around her waist?
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>>150253021

Art is expensive.
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>>150253128
Just ignore it if you don't like it, or don't watch. I don't get off on it, but I don't think it takes anything away either.
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>>150253195
Can't wait to watch this art on Blu-Ray
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>>150252664
That doesn’t really matter a whole lot though. In fact thinking it does matter demonstrates the entirely different assumptions people are arguing about this whole writer change thing from.

Structuring a story and coming up with the major events IS part of a writer’s job, but also the part that the director and producers have the most influence over. Trying to connect the occurrence of any of those events to a writer is a futile endeavor in most cases unless it’s someone highly prolific with a lot of sway over the story, someone whose name tends to overshadow the director’s. (Think the butcher, Okada, Yoshino)
In a show that’s so much the director’s baby as Flip Flappers you should be hesitant to do that.
The concept for Flip Flappers is very Yuniko, yes, but attributing anything to her other than the gay itself would be difficult without interviews. The whole visual storytelling thing should logically be something Oshiyama wanted to happen, for example.

Then there’s the technical parts that I think Yuniko is very good in. Dialog written by her flows very naturally and is amusingly enough a bit more implicit and concise than Oshiyama’s, although it’s of course hard to judge from only one episode. She’s no doubt a great fit for the show. I’d love to see how she’d have written ep7, but it’s pretty clear that 8 would have been way out of her comfort zone.
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>>150253205
Don't get me wrong, I liked it.
Just it was obvious.
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>>150253183

Did somebody say "saucer"?
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>>150253231
>The concept for Flip Flappers is very Yuniko
What evidence do you have of that? You don't know which parts of the concept she developed or have any examples of previous concepts she has developed to compare it to. Just that there is yuri makes it "very Yuniko"? I guess every anime with Yuri subtext is now very Yuniko too.

>She’s no doubt a great fit for the show
Clearly the rest of the staff didn't think so. Hence why she only wrote part of the series. I don't know why you think she couldn't write episode 8 but could write episode 3 just fine though. Yuniko isn't anything exceptional or noticeable at all, just a run of the mill writer with an interest in yuri. Nobody complains about how different the episodes of Kiniro Mosaic or Locoldol she didn't write are because nobody even noticed the fucking difference because she is insignificant.
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>>150252207
They were two episodes ahead as of that event where they pre-screened the PVs for Ep8 and 9
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>>150252807
Episode 8 is done by Inspired
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>>150253489
People should read the thread before posting.
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>>150253508
Nobody said about Inspired before
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>>150253588
Go back to your shounen shit.
Also, you're quite possibly homosexual.
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>>150253588
If you can't see the positive qualities of this show you aren't a fan of anime.
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>>150253588
Your friend has better taste than you.
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>>150253588
>This anime is not a masterpiece like Naruto.
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>>150252974
>It's not blatant when I like it because that would mean it's like all the other shows I dislike because of said blatant fanservice.
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>>150253588
Haven't got anything to add, but just wanted to say you're a faggot.
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I... I wrote a song for Mimi.

You are my Mimi
My only Mimi
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Please don't take my Mimi away

I hope she'll like it.
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>>150253655
>watches anime about literally homosexuals
>calling other people homosexual
Don't call me again.

>>150253661
>positive qualities
Babies needs bright colors to keep them watching the TV.

>>150253739
No.

>>150253749
Anything over 50 episodes is auto-trash. Even the lowest-tier pleb knows this.

>>150253793
>watches show about literal faggots
>calling anyone a faggot ever
pick only one you degenerate
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>>150253753
Nah, it's actually not blatant in a way that the service scenes aren't about said fanservice, just show it.
Yes, it's very much present, yet still not disgustingly prsented like in ecchi shows, with extra sound effect, camera shaking or panning, then cut to fag MC who blushes, has nose bleeding or just acts as if it's some kind of alien trying to assault him.
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>>150253840
>Anything over 50 episodes is auto-trash.
Holy shit you are dumb.
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>>150253661
Nice try on forcing a non existent standard that if you don't like this you must be a reddit baby Naruto fag.
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>>150253840
>two girls
>literal faggots
>not liking seeing girls
I see you can't even differentiate males and females.
I'm so sorry for your homosexual disorder, mate.
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>>150253879
Okay, back to DB threads with you.
Or is is the Code Gayass announcement that spawned your kind?
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>>150253879
I didn't say that at all. It is just the kind of show made very clearly with the intent of appealing to dedicated anime fans in many places with anime/sentai references newfags wouldn't get or notice, lots of great animation and so on.
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>>150253418
>I guess every anime with Yuri subtext is now very Yuniko too.
If she’s involved, then yes, it’s a very safe assumption that she either pushed for that or only got hired for the show due to her being a prolific yuri writer. Hint: The credits tell you which of those two is the case in Flip Flappers.

>Clearly the rest of the staff didn't think so. Hence why she only wrote part of the series.
What evidence do you have of that? Most anime don’t have a single person writing all the episodes. Flip Flappers is only unusual in that it doesn’t have her return for the final episode which in this case will be written by Oshiyama anyway.
If anything you could ask why he didn’t write the first episodes instead of why Yuniko doesn’t write the last ones. He decided to leave such a crucial task to someone else he evidently put a lot of trust into.

>I don't know why you think she couldn't write episode 8 but could write episode 3 just fine though.
There’s a big difference between a regular action episode and an 80s mecha parody. One has mostly normal dialog, the other needs to feel cheesy as hell in a way that mecha fans can relate to. It makes a lot of sense to give that episode to someone who has apparently worked on mecha before and who is most definitely a big fan of older works.

>Nobody complains about how different the episodes of Kiniro Mosaic or Locoldol she didn't write are because nobody even noticed
Overseeing the scripts is also part of it, you know. Doing that job well means you don’t notice the difference. In Flip Flappers case she apparently didn’t get to supervise a lot of episodes which is why it feels more jarring.
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>>150253903
Yes, yuri is homosexual I hate to be the one to tell you if you were pretending to not know.

>>150253876
>go back to Naruto
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>>150253840
>/v/ blowin posting autistic fanart images
seems about right
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>>150254000
>yuri is homosexual
But it's extremely heterosexual for a male to like it.
Not that your little gay ass would know it, I'm sorry about your "special status", mate ;_;
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>>150253588
>>150253840
>avatarfagging
is this satire
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>>150250852
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>>150254680
Ich... Ich habe ein Lied für Cocona geschrieben.

Du bist meine Cocona
Meine einzige Cocona
Du machst mich glücklich
Wenn der Himmel trüb ist
Du wirst niemals wissen, Liebste
Wie sehr ich Dich liebe
Bitte nehmt mir nicht meine Cocona weg

Ich hoffe sie wird es mögen.
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>>150255288
Ich liebe Cocona. Ich will sie umarmen und küssen.
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>>150255288
>Ich hoffe, sie wird es mögen.
FTFY
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I wonder what exactly causes Cocona to get mad a Papika in the next episode. Maybe she keeps calling her Mimi without meaning to?
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>>150253969
There is a reason she is only credited with story concept and not composition anon. That would be because she wasn't responsible for composition of the series. She may very well have had input on it but its fairly clear she wasn't in charge of it.
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>>150255509
*mad at
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>>150255509
Cocona is probably the Jealousy type of girl.
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>>150255533
Yes, that’s my point. She had nothing to do with episode 7, that’s why it’s different from a kiniro mosaic or locodol episode not written by her that she did have a lot of input on.
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>>150254000
I suppose Cardcaptor Sakura, Ashita no Joe, Akage no Anne, LOGH are all terrible too being over 50 episodes?
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Why do people get so angry when we talk about Yuniko?
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>>150255581
My point is someone else would have been doing the composition on the series as a whole, likely a collective. Her role in this series is akin to the role of the secondary scriptwriters on shows like Kiniro Mosaic or Locodol, except she came up with the initial concept.
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>>150255509

Just once is enough. Cocona gets triggered when she's called not by her preferred names.
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>>150255789
It was the second "Mimi" dropped by Papika. End of ep 7 and ep 8.
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>>150254034
>being BTFO so hard you need to call 2 posts avatar fagging
You guys could at least try not to confirm being autistic
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>>150255709
That doesn’t tell the whole story either. Secondary writers do not write almost 6 episodes in a row and never write the first one. She might even still clock in as the writer with the most episodes under her belt at the end, that’s not secondary by any stretch of the imagination.

I think the reason there is no series composition credit is a mix of on one hand that this show doesn’t have a lot to composite due to its episodic nature and on the other that at least so far large parts are written by the same writer anyway, so that person would naturally have more control over them without being involved in those episodes in a special position. She did do series composition for the first six episodes solely due to having written (almost) all of them.
The second half is probably going to be more Oshiyama’s thing, the flap to the first half’s flip. If he’ll like Yuniko write large parts of it himself or have other writers is left to be seen, but I think it’ll be the former.
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>>150256024

The first time it was unclear if she was referring to Cocona or just remembered something.
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>>150255509
>Stop calling me Cockona!
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>>150256142
>She did do series composition for the first six episodes solely due to having written (almost) all of them.
That doesn't follow at all. I don't know why you think it would. The degree of freedom a scriptwriter would have is going to be entirely dictated by the director. It isn't like Yuniko just goes "yep this is the story" and then thats that settled. She is writing a concept that has been agreed upon by other people and must stick within the confines of that and how the director wants the story to progress. As far as we know she was told exactly what would happen in those episodes and then to write scripts sticking to that. Which is entirely possible given the lack of a dedicated series composition credit. From her tweets all I have seen her say is that she was at the meetings where series composition was discussed through the entire writing process so she probably had some input in all of it but the last decision on everything down to a single line in her script is never with her.
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>>150256317
>That doesn't follow at all.
Yes it does, at least to some extent, always. A separate series writer can impose further restrictions on someone writing several episodes in a row, but the actual writer will always write episodes in the context of each other, hence doing some composition work, even if only subconsciously. Most writers beyond sanic fanfiction level will do this consciously however.

>The degree of freedom a scriptwriter would have is going to be entirely dictated by the director.
By that argument no series composition credit should have existed anywhere ever.
The "last decision" is never with the writer, it’s (almost) always with the director, that’s why the director is called director.
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>>150256437
>Yes it does, at least to some extent, always
No it doesn't not at all.
>A separate series writer can impose further restrictions on someone writing several episodes in a row
No they can't that is the job of series composition to make sure the episodes flow and tell the story in order and make sense as a progression, not the script writer. The person who is writing a script for an episode is writing a chunk of the story.

>By that argument no series composition credit should have existed anywhere ever.
This doesn't follow either from my point. I don't know where you would have gotten that from. It's the same for all of the roles in animation. The degree of freedom an animator has with the style they choose to work in is down to the animation director and in turn the director. The degree of freedom a scriptwriter has with their specific episode or lines is down to the writer in charge of composition and then the director. People like scriptwriters are ultimately just suggesting ideas and doing what they were told within certain constraints set upon them. They might come up with something radical to suggest like when an animator adds stuff in that isn't in the storyboard and the director may OK it or not but we can't know about that.
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>>150256611
>The person who is writing a script for an episode is writing a chunk of the story.
Yes, but not a fully defined chunk. If it was a fully defined chunk, the script would be done already. There’s many blanks to fill in and any writer will fill those in context of each other, hence doing some minor composition work. I don’t know why that is so hard to get.
With Flip Flappers being episodic it has almost zero of what you’d usually perceive as series composition anyway, there are no major events that could happen next or already this episode and that series composition gets to shift around. The lines blur a lot here.

>This doesn't follow either from my point.
It does. Your argument was literally "she was involved but didn’t have the final decision so she didn’t do series composition". If that’s enough to discredit the series composition position, then it shouldn’t exist almost anywhere except for some 'butcher and similar series.

Stop thinking of creative freedom as the things they can’t do and start thinking about the things they can do.
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>>150256886
>Yes, but not a fully defined chunk. If it was a fully defined chunk, the script would be done already
I never said otherwise.
>hence doing some minor composition work
I don't know why you think that is composition work. There would be someone actually in charge of looking after composition who would review those scripts and make sure they fit and have anything changed that didn't. It isn't the script writers job to do that. They just naturally have to as a result of writing part of a show.

>With Flip Flappers being episodic it has almost zero of what you’d usually perceive as series composition anyway, there are no major events that could happen next or already this episode
I have no idea what you are talking about there, a lot of the events in all the episodes wouldn't have made sense in any other order just from the way the characters interact with each other changing over time.

>It does. Your argument was literally "she was involved but didn’t have the final decision so she didn’t do series composition"
No that wasn't my argument at all. The fact that someone attends series composition meetings but gets no credit for series composition indicates to me they were not responsible for series composition but only had some input as any writer on the show would need to have.
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What the fuck is going on
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>>150231091
Only a bit late.
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>>150255288
>Ich...
In German you only put ellipses on words if letters are omitted, otherwise there are always spaces around the ellipsis.

It's infuriating how many Germans get this wrong.
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>>150257297
late night flip flapping
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>>150257297
Too much flap, way too little flip
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>>150257080
>I don't know why you think that is composition work.
Because it is.

Since you already brought up the animator analogy, think of it this way: Someone who solo key animates an entire episode is automatically its animation director. They get to "correct" their own drawings and define the style of the overall episode. Well of course, they drew it themselves. There’s still input from higher places like the chief animation director, but large parts of what the episode animation director role entails is obsolete or already done, depending on how you look at it.

It’s the same for writing more than one episode. The cohesiveness comes "for free", or the writer takes over minor series composition duties depending on how you look at it. If you acknowledge it as a credit is up to you.

>a lot of the events in all the episodes wouldn't have made sense in any other order
If by a lot you mean 10% at most, then yes.

>No that wasn't my argument at all.
Well then you phrased it pretty badly, with a whole paragraph about the director’s role that isn’t related at all to wether someone does series composition or not.

That she attended meetings but doesn’t have the credit is interesting, but that said credit doesn’t exist AT ALL is more important and telling in my eyes. (And also rather unusual) Not about Yuniko’s contribution but about the nature of the series and its production. We even know that episode 9 was supposed to happen at a different point in the series, they probably came up with a lot of cool concepts to turn into episodes and arranged them in an order that made sense after the fact. The remaining 5-10% of bigger plot points were then added as a team effort.

>>150257297
God forbid someone actually discusses the show.
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Stop posting about some shit show, something actually important's happening today.
JIBUN WOOOOOOO!
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>>150257450
It clearly says Ichthyologie
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>>150253588
>>Friend keeps telling me to watch

Found your problem.
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Doujins when
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>>150249734
Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i open 4chan this little faggot just sits there and gives me this stupid look on her face. What should i do about her? Ideas?
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>>150257991
>Someone who solo key animates an entire episode is automatically its animation director.
Yet the recent episode of Pokemon Sun & Moon that was solo KA'd still had multiple animation direction credits and the chief animation director. The analogy just doesn't work. You are trying to state things about how this would have worked that you simply cannot know unless you were involved in the production or through interviews we don't have. It could be that Yuniko was told here write this part of the story in this episode, this part in the next episode, then John is going to write this episode, then you will write the episode after that which follows on from that, be sure to make sure your two episodes before and after work fine with John's episode and you do what we want with those episodes too. See what I mean? There is no reason that the writer has to be doing any composition work there. They just write what they are told to in each individual episode as per the instruction of the person(s) in charge of composition just like any other writer would.

> We even know that episode 9 was supposed to happen at a different point in the series
Where are you even getting that from?

>If by a lot you mean 10% at most, then yes.
No I mean the characters attitudes to each other during the episodes and the way they interact flows in a logical way through out the series from episode to episode as their characters develop. Not 10%, the majority of dialog.
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>***,127位/***,127位 (**3,572 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/11/23 WWW.WORKING!!
>***,138位/***,138位 (**3,503 pt) [*,*33予約] 2016/12/21 Hibike S2
>***,193位/***,193位 (**3,400 pt) [*,*25予約] 2016/12/14 Touken Ranbu
>***,229位/***,229位 ○ (**2,410 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/07 Haikyuu
>***,312位/***,307位 (**2,111 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/12/21 Natsume Go
>***,323位/***,403位 (***,918 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/12/21 ViVid Strike!
***,337位/***,328位 (**2,135 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/07 Haikyuu
>***,469位/***,469位 (***,503 pt) [*,*14予約] 2016/11/23 Keijo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>***,684位/***,684位 (***,458 pt) [*,*49予約] 2016/12/21 Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku
>***,740位/***,705位 (***,337 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/12/07 Occultic;Nine
>***,780位/***,780位 (***,943 pt) [*,*12予約] 2016/12/21 Shuumatsu no Izetta
>***,957位/***,957位 (**2,096 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/02/24 Gundam IBO
>***,978位/***,967位 (**1,085 pt) [*,*13予約] 2016/12/23 Okusama ga Seitokaicho
>**1,063位/**1,333位 (***,775 pt) [*,*30予約] 2017/02/24 Anitore XX
>**1,102位/**1,082位 (**1,411 pt) [*,**8予約] 2017/02/24 Brave Witches
>**1,222位/**1,193位 ○ (***,284 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Udon
>**1,284位/**1,222位 (***,394 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Long Riders
>**1,313位/**1,284位 (***,740 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/12/21 Magic-Kyun
>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
>**1,593位/**1,580位 (***,546 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Girlish Number
>**1,675位/**1,647位 (***,754 pt) [*,*17予約] 2017/02/24 Teekyuu S8
>**1,947位/**1,927位 (***,795 pt) [*,**3予約] 2017/01/25 3-gatsu no Lion
>**2,033位/**1,998位 (***,464 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Lostorage incited WIXOSS
>**2,190位/**3,864位 (***,459 pt) [*,*11予約] 2017/02/24 Mahou Shoujo Nante Mou Ii Desukara
**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
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>>150258759
learn to filter
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>>150257450
I was never taught that rule in school. We only learned to omit parts of quotes with [...]. Not that I've ever used ellipses for anything else.
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>>150258759
The proper term is "Lesbian".
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Fucking Anitore XX, Teekyuu and Mahou Shoujo Nante are selling better than Flop Floppers
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>>150258068
Push off. Toto is way cooler then Spinzaku.

Also, how has it taken me this long to realise that he is named after Alice in wonderland's dog.

>inb4 twintail's name is Alice.
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>>150257450
Probably because the place where you see the most ellipses are in programs where it says "Öffnen..." or "Speichern unter..." and those are not separated by spaces.
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>>150258802
You probably just didn't listen or schools are really useless these days.
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>>150258961
>Also, how has it taken me this long to realise that he is named after Alice in wonderland's dog.
Don't you mean Dorothy's from The Wizard of Oz?
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>>150258939
>Anitore XX, Mahou Shoujo Nante
Yeah the problem was definitely that Flip Flappers has too much fanservice. Definitely.

>Teekyu

Teekyu is fucking popular dude.
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FIGURE FUCKING WHEN
http://myfigurecollection.net/item/514874
MY WALLET IS READY
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>>150258961
>he is named after Alice in wonderland's dog.
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>>150259487
>tfw going broke right when Flip Flappers is airing
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>>150258773
I even mentioned the chief animation director, of course that one is always going to be involved. Higher positions of course exist.
I don’t actively watch Pokemon so I’m not quite sure what’s going on there, but you do have to admit that even seeing Iwane with other much less experienced animation directors is pretty weird. Maybe that’s him doing something along the lines of rough KA? Either way, it doesn’t really matter. He’s still an animation director and it doesn’t contradict what I said. Only an entire episode of rough/1st KA with the original animator not doing any animation directon would, and that would be credited as such. Probably. Anime credits can be weird.

>See what I mean?
I’ve seen from the beginning what you mean. You don’t see what I mean. Again: Stop thinking of creative freedom as the things they can’t do and start thinking about the things they can do. Yes, there’s a rough outline of what they are going to write. No, that’s not a complete guide to everything and never will be, even with the most detailed series composition. If it was, there’d be no need for other writers. You don’t need interviews to know that there will always be developments, events and dialog lines not covered by the composition that a writer in charge of several episodes will write in context of each other with consideration to how it impacts other episodes. That is composition. An individual writer writing several episodes will write them in the same style, even more coherent than if they’d done supervision on other writers’ work, just like a solo KA episode is more stylistically coherent than a normal one even without a separate person for corrections.

>Where are you even getting that from?
Was written somewhere in the threads, could be bogus, don’t know the source and don’t care enough to dig it up, sorry.
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>>150258773
>No I mean the characters attitudes to each other during the episodes and the way they interact flows in a logical way through out the series from episode to episode as their characters develop. Not 10%, the majority of dialog.
And that’s not quite series composition. The series composition dictates the state of the relationship at the start of the episode and where it should be by the end of it. That’s not a lot. Yes, that impacts pretty much all of the dialog lines, but the actual composition work involved is very little, and that is reflected by the show lacking this credit.
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>>150259766
>>That is composition
No it isn't. Series composition is planning, allocating and checking all the scripts for the show, how the story will flow across episodes and so on, where major events will happen.
>Was written somewhere in the threads, could be bogus, don’t know the source and don’t care enough to dig it up, sorry.
You probably shouldn't repeat things as fact if you can't source them.

>>150259859
>The series composition dictates the state of the relationship at the start of the episode and where it should be by the end of it.
Who says this? Sounds like nonsense to me. It could be as detailed a plan as to leave the script writer with as little to do as writing lines of dialog to fit the action they know needs to happen that episode or as broad as "as long as none of the relationships are changed do what you want". All your points are based on nonsense that you've fabricated in your mind with no basis in reality.
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I wish someone would start scriptbooru.yshi.org with a complementary blog to clear up these complicated terms.
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>>150260069
It is really difficult to say anything about script writing I think. Even if you have the credit a lot of other hands will have dictated what you can write about first. It is like trying to look for animator "tells" really I think when it comes to a script writer. I mean a lot of the time it is impossible to know how much influence they had in what the episode was about, what the series was about, how much instruction they were given, how many changes were made and it never is known the majority of the time. Often the best you could really do is be like "huh the dialog in these shows which have X writer tend to be like Y".
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wtf i'm gay now
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i hate yuniko now for unleashing this idiotic writer change meme upon the world

post more sexy yayakas
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>>150260400
The sexiest
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>>150260400
She seems really fat there, maybe she should change to something healthier than sweet bread.
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>>150260400

>Papina's dress

I'm still mad there's pretty much no fanart of that scene.
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>>150258774
Stalker posts should be an auto-ban outside of their containment threads.
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>>150260400
Yayaka is like the first time that I wish for a happy ending for a character in addition to the main couple. She is a good girl. She should be happy. PaCoYa exploring PI forever end when?
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>>150260822
>Pops fantart
gotta save!
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>>150250200
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>>150250200
Surely you remember how you got here
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soon
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>>150260860
Unless they're in favour of your favourite show right?
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>>150262240
favour?
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>>150262240
No, always. It wouldn't make a difference though, because the times that they are posted in favor of shows make up maybe 5% compared to the times they're used for shitposting, baiting and aiming for cheap (You)s out of concern.
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>>150251476
I love her deadpan shit-talking.
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>>150262608
thug lyf
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>>150262790
The way her eyes turned blank and she curled her hand into a fist made me think shit was going to blow up. Still wish a short fight scene had gone down between them and Pops here.
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>>150262790

Imagine Yuyu grabbing you by the balls with that hand. And then you have to follow her every command, or else.
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>>150263201
Why should it influence my enjoyment of the show?
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>>150261997
YYKs replacement looks frightening there. I bet she's into some kinky shit, like hunting Uexkülls for fun or destroying others hopes and dreams.
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>>150263445
Japanese people clearly have the right taste in anime and if your taste isn't the same as popular opinion among otaku in Japan you are wrong.

It is kind of like someone saying "these anime have the highest rating on MAL if you disagree you are wrong" to be honest. Except because they are Japanese it mean you should want to like the same things as them, even the plebs, or you are clearly a filthy gaijin.
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>>150263625
Trying too hard.
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>>150263699
Wasn't Yuyu the wicked witch of the west's cat?
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fucking birds, always causing trouble
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>>150263625
This. I only enjoy shows that sold more than 30k. Everything else is shit Japan agrees.
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>>150255288
Are we going to remake this in every language?
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>>150264413
俺は……俺はココナのために詩を書いた。
君は俺のココナ
俺の大切なココナ
君は俺を幸福にしてくれる
空が灰色の時も
君は決して知らないだろう、愛しい人よ、
俺がどれだけ君を愛しているかを
どうか俺のココナを奪わないで
彼女が気に入ってくれる事を願う。
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I'm going to rewatch from the beginning.
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>>150264413
Sure, why not?

Ho... Ho scritto una canzone per Cocona.
Tu sei la mia Cocona
La mia sola Cocona
Tu mi rendi felice
Quando i cieli sono grigi
Non saprai mai, mia cara
Quanto io ti ami
Ti prego di non portar via la mia Cocona

Spero le piaccia.
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>>150264413
>>150264547
I saw a russian version too, just a few days before.
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Post Papika Shinji hand
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>>150264413
.. .-.-.- .-.-.- .-.-.- / .. / .-- .-. --- - . / .- / ... --- -. --. / ..-. --- .-. / -.-. --- -.-. --- -. .- .-.-.- / -.-- --- ..- / .- .-. . / -- -.-- / -.-. --- -.-. --- -. .- / -- -.-- / --- -. .-.. -.-- / -.-. --- -.-. --- -. .- / -.-- --- ..- / -- .- -.- . / -- . / .... .- .--. .--. -.-- / .-- .... . -. / ... -.- .. . ... / .- .-. . / --. .-. . -.-- / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-.. .-.. / -. . ...- . .-. / -.- -. --- .-- --..-- / -.. . .- .-. / .... --- .-- / -- ..- -.-. .... / .. / .-.. --- ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / .--. .-.. . .- ... . / -.. --- -. .----. - / - .- -.- . / -- -.-- / -.-. --- -.-. --- -. .- / .- .-- .- -.-- / .. / .... --- .--. . / ... .... . .----. .-.. .-.. / .-.. .. -.- . / .. - .-.-.-
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>>150264413
translated it to Polish but it felt so wrong i couldn't bring myself to post it.
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>>150259987
>Series composition is planning, allocating and checking all the scripts for the show
Literally what I described
>It could be as detailed a plan as to leave the script writer with as little to do as writing lines of dialog to fit the action they know needs to happen that episode
Which is pretty much that in an episodic series.
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>>150264413
I wish I was better at Ukrainian.
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>>150264413
Я... Я написал песню для Коконы.

Ты моя Кокона
Моя единственная Кокона
Ты делаешь меня счастливым
Когда небеса пасмурны
Дорогая, ты никогда не узнаешь
Как сильно я тебя люблю
Прошу, не отнимай у меня Кокону

Надеюсь ей понравится.

>>150265168
It's actually a remade song, just google up the official translation for it (that's what I did anyway with few tweaks)

>>150264615
Shit, I only noticed your post after I was done brushing it up. I'll post it anyways, just in case.
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>>150255288
>>150264413
Eu... Eu escrevi uma canção para Cocona

Você é minha Cocona
Minha única Cocona
Você me faz feliz
Quando os céus estão cinza
Você nunca saberá, meu bem
O quanto eu te amo
Por favor não leve minha Cocona embora

Eu espero que ela goste.
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include <stdio>;
using namespace std;
/**
* Expresses my love for Cocona.
* Params:
* char[]* params - params from CLI, will be discarded anyway.
int main(char[]* params)
{
float64 nervousness_prct = 1.0;
//TODO: bounds check
char* song_for_cocona = new char[1024];
//Yeah, we're really doing this.
song_for_cocona = '\ncocona_ownership = PERSON_ME;\nother_cocona_count = 0;\nif (SKIES_GRAY && agents_of_action[PERSON_COCONA]) \n{\n emotional_states[PERSON_ME] = EMOTIONAL_STATE_HAPPY;\nif (false) person_knowledge[PERSON_COCONA][KNOWLEDGE_TYPES_DEGREE_OF_LOVE] = person_target_degrees_of_love[PERSON_ME][PERSON_COCONA];\nregister_request(REQUEST_LEVEL_PLEASE, ACTION_NETOTARE, PERSON_COCONA, NEGATE_REQUEST);\n}';
//Now this is just straight up Ωbullshit but C++ is shit anyway
gcc_eval_in_current_context_char_ptr(song_for_cocona);
return 0;
//I hope Cocona likes it
}
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>>150265726
Certeza que ela vai odiar essa merda
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What's happening here
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>>150266033
/int/ is taking over Flip Flap
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>>150265944
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>>150265944
I'll take someone to Pure Illusion if they manage to compile a working version of this and run it.
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>>150266125
Yeah fuck off I typed it on an iPad
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>>150255288
>>150264492
>>150264547
>>150264719
>>150264824
>>150265631
I really doubt their credibility, you fucking madman.

>>150265944
Language is funny but programming language is dumb. Stop. >>>/g/
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>>150265944
Straight up good meme.
I fixed your include, accept the pull request.

>>150265978
Rude.
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>>150264413
Jeg... Jeg skrev en sang til Cocona.

Du er min Cocona
Min eneste Cocona
Du gør mig glad
Når himlen er grå
Du vil aldrig vide, kære
Hvor meget jeg elsker dig
Tag ikke min Cocona væk

Jeg håber at hun kan lide den.
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>>150266033
It's a bit like episode 7 only not.
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>>150266292
>Forgot to take off the ; after the include
Wew lad.
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>>150264413
Ben.. Ben bir şarkı yazdım Cocona için.

Sen benim Cocona'msın
Benim tek Cocona'm
Beni mutlu edersin
Gökler kararınca
Bilemezsin, canım
Seni ne kadar sevdiğimi
Lütfen Cocona'mı benden almayın

Umarım sever.
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>>150266292
It would've been funnier if I'd gotten it pedantically perfect the first time.

I'm such a screw up. Cocona will never love me
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>>150262240
Nope. They're annoying circlejerks for or against whatever show and are largely meaningless here.
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>>150264492
>>150264547
>>150264719
>>150264824
>>150265631
>>150265726
>>150265944
>>150266319
>>150266583
She is a lesbian, she will never love any of you neckbeards.
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>>150255509
>Shut up about Yuniko already! The new episodes are fine!
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>>150266292
>>150265944
You forgot to free the memory you allocated on line 12. Congratulations! Your program has just crashed the power grid for the entire western hemisphere.
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>>150264413
כ... כתבתי שיר לקוקונה
את הקוקונה שלי
הקוקונה היחידה שלי
את גורמת לי לאושר
כשהשמיים אפורים
לעולם לא תדעי, יקירתי
עד כמה אני אוהב אותך
נא אל תקחו את הקוקונה שלי

מקווה שהיא תאהב אותו.
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>>150266914
oy vey
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>>150264413
Je... J'ai écrit une chanson pour Cocona

Tu es mon Cocona
mon seul Cocona
Tu me rends heureux
quand les cieux sont gris
Tu ne sauras jamais ma chère,
Combien Je t'aime
S'il te plaît ne me prends pas mon Cocona

J'espère qu'elle aime
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>>150266763
So? The song is about her never knowing how much we love her.
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>>150267044
>mon Cocona

Google translate, quittez-vous la thread si vous plait.
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>>150266908
Do that many people write songs for Cocona?
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>>150267117
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>>150267044
Someone screen shot all of this, im too stupid.
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#include <cstdio>
using namespace std;
/**
* Expresses my love for Cocona.
* Params:
* char[]* params - params from CLI, will be discarded anyway.
*/
int main(char[]* params)
{
····float64 nervousness_prct = 1.0;
····//TODO: bounds check
····char* song_for_cocona = new char[1024];
····//Yeah, we're really doing this.
····song_for_cocona = '\n
····cocona_ownership = PERSON_ME;\n
····other_cocona_count = 0;\n

····if (SKIES_GRAY && agents_of_action[PERSON_COCONA]) \n
········emotional_states[PERSON_ME] = EMOTIONAL_STATE_HAPPY;\n

····if (false)\n
········person_knowledge[PERSON_COCONA][KNOWLEDGE_TYPES_DEGREE_OF_LOVE] = person_target_degrees_of_love[PERSON_ME][PERSON_COCONA];\n

····register_request(REQUEST_LEVEL_PLEASE, ACTION_NETOTARE, PERSON_COCONA, NEGATE_REQUEST);\n
····';
····//Now this is just straight up bullshit but C++ is shit anyway
····gcc_eval_in_current_context_char_ptr(song_for_cocona);
····return 0;
····//I hope Cocona likes it
····float64 hope_prct = 1.0;

····delete song_for_cocona;
}
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>>150268016
Witnessed
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>>150255509
>ZR irregularity
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>>150268016
>····delete song_for_cocona;
This is kinda sad.
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>>150268068
What is perspective?
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>>150255509
FlipFlapperville is the town of my dream. Mix of western and eastern architecture is amazing
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>>150268068
>>150268208
Could actually be higher since that’s Cocona’s scar leg.
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>>150268631
By the first panel I thought it was going to be a parody of the ending of that famous terror movie I can't remember the name now.
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>>150251417
Gatai sounds
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>>150268631
I may be alone in this, but doesn't the stark darkness and plainness of FF HQ, along with their choice of odd furnishings just seem kind of perfect?

Or maybe it's just because that lamp over a stark black background reminds me of Yume Nikki for some reason.

And this scene... I mean, I have dreams like that, where an interior space that people actually have to move through often has these weird pits in it, like it wasn't designed for humans to move through, but to everyone there it's just routine. Is this a reference to something I'm not aware of?

Its like a Terry Gilliam movie. The environment is just so dreamlike, it's the mundane rendered fantastical and you can't exactly put your finger on how.
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>>150258781
You retarded? You can't recognize an old meme.
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>>150259320
>Damage control
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>ded thred
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Mimi?
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>>150251196
>this is literally more than ten years old
>code geass is ten years old
>there are people in this thread right now who were still in diapers ten years ago

;_;
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>this whole thread
Fucking cancer. This shit is literally nothing without the circlejerk and won't even end between the best shows this season indeed.
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>>150271282
What?
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>>150267044
>mon
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>>150271088
Its pronounced Cocona.
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>>150271689
Literally who.
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>Dr. Salt, I'm Mimi
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Emily has a new blog post:
https://formeinfullbloom.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/flip-flappers-courtship-of-cocona/
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>>150250852
I don't understand 4chan.

sometimes I wonder if you guys are actually retarded
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>>150271843
Stop posting Papika
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Mimi is love, Mimi is life
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>Romeo
>Yayaka will have a chance, but it will be too late
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What kind of audience is this aimed towards in Japan?
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>>150272858
sakuga bloggers and weirdos
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>>150273141
how does that make any money?
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>>150272858
The one with good taste, as you can tell by how well it's selling.
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Sorry if I'm late, you probably all discussed this already. I saw a post earlier that implied this screenshot is a picture of a planet in a dyson ball. What this is actually depicting is the inside of Bu-chan's head. The planet is his brain, like we saw in episode 1, and the stars in the sky is the inside of his shell. The whole city belongs to Pops because the city is one organism, or the physical manifestation of Bu-chan's consciousness. Then after Pacoya Nova ripped a hole in his brain, that effected the real life Bu-chan to the point where he needs repairs.
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Will Cocona grow up fine like Mimi?
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>>150273395
She already did, in the future
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>>150273261
It can make a shitton if it catches on, Madoka was aimed at a similar audience.

Also the whole FLOP FLOP FLOP LOL thing is overstated, a lot of anime sell less than Flip Flappers (even well produced ones), and yet studios and production companies aren't folding left and right and they keep making them.
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>>150264413
Mä... kirjoitin laulun Coconalle.

Sä oot mun Cocona
Mun ainoo Cocona
Teet minusta onnellisen
Harmaiden taivaiden alla
Et tiiä, armas
Miten sua rakastan
Ettehän vie mun Coconaa pois

Toivottavasti se tykkää, perkele.
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Occhan or Hidaka?
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>>150273360
I thought those stars were just other PI worlds. If I haven't forgotten any between ep 3 and this one, it's the second time we've seen planets as the stages for PI. It wouldn't surprise me if every other PI was a planet of varying size.
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>>150273413
What did he mean by this?
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>>150273360
Basically he's not in this episode because he IS the PI
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>>150273545
Just think about it
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>>150264413
Én... én írtam egy dalt Coconának.

Te vagy az én Coconám
Az én egyetlen Coconám
Boldoggá teszel engem
Amikor az egek szürkék
Sose fogod tudni, kedves
Mennyire szeretlek én
Kérlek ne vedd el az én Coconám

Remélem tetszeni fog neki.
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Papika/Cocona is Salt/Mimi. Mark my words, fellow flappers.
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>>150273444
Finnish seems very cool, wish I had time to learn it.
Also, doesn't perkele mean something else?
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>Mfw there's barely any fanart of Papiwo and sukeban!Cocona

Why do people hate fun?
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>>150272858
yurifags
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What horrible things would do you if worst girl wins?
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>>150274898
which is who
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>>150275013
Shitpost in Flip Flap threads
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>>150273395
>Papika=Papi=Dad
>Mimi=Mama=Mom
YUKINOOOOOOOOO
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>>150275013
Cry.
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>>150275222
I don't get it
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Why only Yaya gets sexy fanart?
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>>150275222
what
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>>150275252
There are six images in one.
What a bargain!
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>>150275106
Salt probably put Cocona inside Mimi. Look at the family resemblance.

Papika will have to ask them Cocona's hand in marriage soon.

>>150275268
Because she has a sexy attitude. Cocona is too reserved and Papika is too pure for this world. Yuyu also has some nice, revealing fanart too iirc.
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>>150275321
>you will never see Salt walk Coconuts down the isle
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>>150259160
>>150259584
>>150263699
That's what I get for early morning flip-posting while half asleep.
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>>150275268
people always want to ship rivals more than canon pairs
>>
>Kokomimi Cocona
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>>150275047
Me
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>"Cocona... Can I come play inside today?"

What did she mean by this?
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>>150275452
Kotomine Cocona
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>>150275466
but you're not paying anything you fucking faggot
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>>150273395
Is that the same dress that boat girl is wearing?
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>>150275594
Mimi is boat girl
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>>150275492
She meant to say "cocona can I cum inside you today"
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>>150275674
Is Cocona the type of girl who takes it raw from her partner and pull out the last minute or put a condom on them every unsafe day?
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>>150264413
A... Ako'y nagsulat nang kanta para kay Cocona.

Ikaw ang aking Cocona
Pinapasaya mo ako
Kapaag ang langit ay maulap
Hinde mo malalaman sinta
Kung gaano kita kamahal
Kung maaari huwag mong nakawin ang aking Cocona

Sana magustuhan nya.
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why are there so many pedos itt, get the fuck off my board
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>>150276034
I don't want to fuck the flip flappers I want them to fuck each other
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>>150275514
Do you really think her name is Kotomine? Because I had to check a few days ago since everyone called her Kokomine when I was convinced it was Kotomine and I want to make sure I'm not the only one who actually thought that.
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>>150276210
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>>150276245
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>>150273360
>I saw a post earlier that implied this screenshot is a picture of a planet in a dyson ball
It could also be in orbit around a very large planet. The main point however is that while you are supposed to think that the background is just a generic starscape, on closer inspection it actually has a structure that is more characteristic of a mind-bendingly large city.
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>>150276210
>>150276245
>>150276276
Since Uexküll resembles Salt so much, does his humanized form represent Cocona's desire to be taken care for and protected by a father figure?
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>>150276210
>>150276245
>>150276276
Love these. Uexküll is great.
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>>150276210
>>150276245
>>150276276
no matter what aspect of Flip Flappers I like, someone else likes it too. I don't necessarily ship them but I think that whole thing is cute as fuck.
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Just wanted to say that Serendipity is a great song to listen to while running.
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>>150276621
Looks like a midget rather than a child.
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>>150276210
>>150276245

These are good but >>150276276 is fucking amazing.
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>>150276750
I don't understand.
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>>150276822
It's cute
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>>150276750
>senpai, don't you think the girl on the left would look better with short blond hair, maybe her bangs pulled back
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>>150264413
Na... napisałem piosenkę dla Cocony.

Jesteś moją Coconą
Moją jedyną Coconą
Czynisz mnie szczęśliwym
Gdy nieba szarzeją
Nigdy nie dowiesz się, słońce
Jak bardzo cię kocham
Proszę, nie zabieraj mojej Cocony

Mam nadzieję, że się jej spodoba.
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>>150276131
nice denial, enjoy prison
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>>150264719
>Mi sola cocona

Dood
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>plot sucks after writer change
>ep8 sakkan is web gen
>muh explosion
>muh yuniko story concept/series composition/script/origin work
>is this really necessary
>amazon stalker
>visual storytelling worse than citizen kane
>not even top 3
>yuribait
>>
I demand more cocona tummy.
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>>150277480
Thank you for the synopsis anon
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>>150277480
>what is the target audience of this?
>me
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>>150277480
>wrote a song for cocona
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>>150277480
>Cockona
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>>150277480
>plot sucks after writer change
It was always shit brah
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>>150274636
Perkele means "I deeply love you but I'm too shy to say it" in Finnish.
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>Show gets popular on /a/
>Threads turn into a general
>Threads become terrible
Like clockwork
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>>150277480
>who's her boyfriend?
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>>150274848
I can try to draw something simple tomorrow. Just don't expect anything amazing.
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>>150277751
Yeah, I love the show too, but these threads are cancer. Report all generals.
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>>150276822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqopCu_0rws
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cuckona(hole)
>>
>threads are suddenly full of shitposting

What happened?
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>>150279490
It got a lot of attention and at some point there is just not much to talk about anymore.
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>>150279490
the writer changed hur hur
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>>150279490
>implying weekend flip flap threads haven't always been shit
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>>150279490
Threads are always shitposting when I'm not here.

This may just be coincidence.
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>>150279490
Plot never kicked off so shitposting is necessary to keep the threads alive given the lack of material to discuss. Thats the outcome for every show that is not very good outside the animation.
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>>150280329
watch re:zero if you want plot, faggot
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>>150280463
is this bait?
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>>150277266
it had to be "mi única Cocona", you fucking illiterate
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>>150280329
SamFlam had a plot without good animation and fun threads and still flopped.
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>>150280788
because it had no audience, a weird amalgam of toku, yaoishit and QUALITY would turn off even the most harcore viewer
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>>150280788
Most things flop, by /a/'s definition of the term.
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>>150281262
"no audience" and "not very good" are not the same things.
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>>150249770
Gay
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>>150280329
>plot never kicked off
Plot kicked off in episode 1 and has been going along steadily ever since. Can't think of a single episode that didn't advance the main plot. It is relatively slow to develop compared to many other series though in terms of what actually happens. It isn't particularly convoluted in terms of lots of complexity happening and interlocking story elements going on all at the same time. Just a simple story told slowly in a less than obvious way. That said I think it has definitely sped up since episode 7 in terms of plot developments.
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>>150281630
>Just a simple story told slowly in a less than obvious way.
Also I do think this method of storytelling has probably setup a lot of expectations that won't be fulfilled in a lot of viewers. Usually anime that do this have some kind of complex reveal to make some kind of thing that will appeal to "DEEP"fags. I doubt that is ever going to come with Flip Flappers. It is kind of a mismatch of sorts that subverts traditional expectations and could ultimately harm the reception of the show. You often get simple story with story told in simple way through straight forward dialog but usually you only get a more nuanced/subtle approach to storytelling when the themes/plot accompanying that storytelling method are also more complex. Whilst Flip Flappers takes that more subtle approach I don't think ultimately it is aiming to be thematically significant or complex.
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>>150250200
>why is one of the historically shittiest boards so shitty?
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>>150280329
Nice meme
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Dont die until the new PV comes out
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>>150283589
just make a new thread
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>>150283700
Don't make a new thread >>150283589
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wait i haven't been paying attention to these threads for a bit, what's this about a writer change and why should i care
>>
It's symbolic.
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I only love you this much, Cocona. No homu.
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>>150284783
They changed the writer because it was getting too gay and now the anime is about mecha combat. Cocona has been replaced by a new male MC-- a dark loner with a troubled past and a great evil sealed inside him. Papika is always trying to get him to kiss her.
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>>150284783
Ignore them, they are just memesters.
The writer changed for the last ep but it doesn't really makes a diference.
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>>150285315
what did she(male) mean by this?
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>>150285268
Disgusting.
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>>150284804
>PLOT
>Thoughts Inducing Imagery
>Deep
Truly the Flip Flappers of our times.
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Yayaka voted Trump. Yayaka thinks code geass season 2 is a good idea. Yayaka says thanks to vending machines. Yayaka bathes twice a day.
>>
Do we know the name of the blue hair twintails yet?
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>>150285450
Yes, it was on a character art sheet. I can't remember it offhand-- it was two repeated syllables, like Toto and Yuyu.
>>
>>150285448
So Yayaka really has been the best girl all along.
>>
Why is Yayaka so perfect bros?
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>>150285448
Should I watch Code Geass? Was it really that good?
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>>150285450
Think a two syllabes name or Nagisa.
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>>150251717
>>150251291
doesn't more animation directors mean that a lot of the in-between and/or the key frames came back drawn really shitty?
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>>150285546
She has a know-it-all demeanor, takes control, mouthy but not really insulting, and under it all is really nice and caring.
>>
The flip flaps have never been portrayed as really apt fighters in this show despite henshin powers. Yayaka has beaten them repeatedly with nothing but training and skill. If Yayaka defects, I expect that she's going to whip them into shape.
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>>150285808
>Yayaka training montage
Pls give it to me
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Japan stoppu.
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>>150285808
All I remember is Yayaka stealing kills, kicking papika once and yuyu wants to be hardcore but Yayaka doesn't let her. Maybe with twintails loli shit will hit the fan.
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>>150286053
I want Yayaka to kiss me. I don't even think she's the best or even in the top three, but I want to Kiss Yayaka.
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>>150286175
Maybe "beat them to the punch" is a better way to say that, but she's killed monsters easily that the Flip Flappers had lots of trouble with, and repeatedly saved them pretty much effortlessly.
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>>150285505
nene
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>>150286187
And I want a hasbro trucker Yayaka toy.
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They need more lewds as a pairing.
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>>150286340
Clara-rin~
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>>150286562
enough of this autism
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figures literally when
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https://streamable.com/ri9n
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>>150285547
It wasn't bad at all, in fact I enjoyed it.
Lots of KEIKAKU
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>>150286817
It would be a shame if by the end Mimi! outnumbers Cocona!
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is there even gonna be a Pure Illusion next week?
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>>150286817
kunka kunka
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Are Bu-chan and Hidaka related?
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>>150287155
Creator and creation.
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I hoe the final episode is where Pure Illusion and reality begin to intertwine making it the most visually insane episode of anime ever desu.
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>>150286817
Why is "muhun~" the best Papika noise?
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>>150287208
wehhhh?
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>>150287184
>They've entering PI through works of art all this time
>Bu-chan is Hidaka's masterpiece like senpai's ugly paintings
Fuck, I'm slow.
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what happened to Cocona's grandma?
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>>150285448
>Gay
>Voted Trump
Pick one
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>>150285448
>Says thanks to vending machines
Nobody does this.
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>>150287208
Ari?
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>>150287380
Milo Yianopoulos
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>>150286053
>>150286107

Where are the cute Papika x Cockna comics?
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>>150287085
Possible that we won't get one if it's a plot-heavy/transition episode, like 4. I don't mind because we're due for some drama anyway.
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>>150285448
Yayaka is too young to vote.
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I just want Cocona to pick a high school
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>>150287580
I thought niggas were exaggerating when they said artist loved yayaka but it's a bit harsh to find papicoco sexy art let alone solos. They mostly get fluffly stuff together.
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>>150287527
He's a troll playing the long con, kind of like our own resident Schizo
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Meanwhile at a Studio 3Hz Monday morning meeting
>Sales are looking pretty bad you guys...
>I know! Let's just throw in ALL the girls in swimsuits next week!
>What? But there's no mention of pools in the scrip-
>Who the fuck cares at this point?! DO IT. THROW IN SOME RANDOM MECHA REFERENCES WHILE AT IT.
This is by far the saddest show this season.
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>>150287733
But she has a driver license.
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>>150287998
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>>150287527
Brits can't vote in the murrican election m8.
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>>150287666
>>150287085
The blue haired girl and twins are definitely going in there for something.
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>>150287998
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>>150287998
>a week to complete that animation
I know this is bait but at least try to be plausible.
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>>150286817
Do nips make this many noises in real life?
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>>150287295
>ugly
I'll fight you.
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>>150288297
Is that a stargate reference?

Fuck it, I'm calling that a Stargate reference. How can one studio be so based.
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>>150288836
Ant artfags here that can tell if senpai's actually talented or not?
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>>150288912
Beauty's in the eye of the beholder, anon.
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>>150288912
https://formeinfullbloom.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/flip-flappers-pure-illusion-and-the-painter/
>a modern, abstract work with a Matisse-like color palette that resembles something between fauvism and early abstract expressionism.
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>>150289034
So she's deviantart tier. Thanks.
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>>150288912
The best way to decide is to look at it yourself.

>>150289055
IMO it's good. It doesn't buy into the "anything is art" school of thought. It has motion, it has space. It looks inviting. I think they really wanted to make her good, and not like pam from the office, who had the desire but not the talent.
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>>150289055
Art is complicated.
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>>150288836
Pic of the shooped painting?
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>>150251503
Funny some of the comments on 2ch about her tweeting

>Yuniko is so funny.
>Mental level of a high schooler.
>Worthless screenwriter is likely to do it again.
>The story being shit isn't just one personals fault but Yuniko cannot make a story.
>After Yuniko left the dialogue got better.
>Yuniko's shit script would not be more interesting anyway.
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>>150289526
Why are japs so rude?
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>>150289630
I really hope nobody dies or gets sealed.
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>>150289568
Because they have to bottle up all their anger all day long.
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>>150289526
>Even the japs agree the story is shit

Not a big fan of alzheimers either, huh?
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>>150289568
Same reason they keep killing themselves
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>>150289526
>the nip threads are just as shitty
Pottery
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>>150289526
Nips are just seeing the show for what it is. Shit.
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>>150289526
Really feeling that writer change, aren't they?
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>>150289568
Western artists and writers get the exact same treatment here. Shit even more popular figures from anime, who are still very culturally and personally removed from the west, get attacked and harassed constantly.
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>>150289916
The majority of the posts in the threads aren't critical at all. Just speculation type stuff that's common here. The dedicated anti thread has about 200 posts and the show itself in the main threads is up to 11000. Some comments were worried recently about a rushed ending though.
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>>150289978
>rushed ending
Does anime have any other type of ending?
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>>150289978
>having anti threads for one show

What is this autism?
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>>150289978
I see. That's why the show is selling so well over there.
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>>150249977
>tfw too mature, intelligent, and cultured to enjoy Code Geass
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>all those deleted posts

wtf i hate Akemi now
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>>150289978
What's the consensus on those "leaks" that called the plot an EVA ripoff?
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>>150290015
Japan is a country that runs on autism. What did you expect?
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>>150290015
They have boards dedicated to rage or shitposting. Doesn't sound bad actually. Like imagine a board dedicated to big guys and pedo trash. You could talk about movies in /tv/ instead of queer agendas, or /a/ and /co/ without spammers or company wars shit. Also it's been a while without cocona getting devoured by a vagina.
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I don't understand this show.
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This show triggers my autsim more than any show ever has before and I'm not sure what to make of it. And by autism I mean I just feel stupidly obsessed with this show. It dominates way too much of my thoughts on a given day.

Assuming it doesn't fuck up horribly in the last five episodes it could easily be one of if not my favorite show of all time. Maybe not objectively the best but my favorite in terms of enjoyment delivered.
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>>150290314
literally straightforward plot nothing difficult to understand, anon. it's the re:zero of anime
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>>150290451
>last 5
You mean 3?
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>>150275268

Jesus, I need more lewd Cocona in this artstyle.
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>>150290015
I think its kind of like "if you want to shitpost go to the shitpost containment thread rather than ruining this discussion".

>>150290028
I think a lot of it is just as much down to nobody watching it and those that did and didn't like it having moved on by now for the most part.

>>150290265
The only mentions of EVA I can see in the current thread is something Rei and swimsuits getting them hard, and the mecha fight being like Eva vs Flashman.
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>>150290457
B-but /a/ said muh FLCL with gurlz and some lesbianism.
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>>150290469
There are five episodes left. Hard to believe, since it feels like we're nearing the end.
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>>150290451
Will you sleep well now that Cocona's about to break up with Papika?
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>>150290492
FLCL also has a straightforward plot and simple theme told in a roundabout way.

Flip Flappers isn't really like that though I'd say, only the first 2 episodes gave a bit of that feeling.
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>>150290552
Quite the opposite probably. But I presume the oncomming breakup will only serve to further reinforce their relationship once they get over it.

That and Yayaka may have to smack them both around until they get it through their heads that they're meant to be together.
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>>150290314
Nothing needs to be understood in a show about lesbians going on Alice in Wonderland adventures to find a bunch of crystal shards. Just enjoy the ride.
>>
>>150290596
>>150290642
Alright. It still feels like something something deeper meaning, something is missing, etc. It's quite disheartening that there's actually nothing. OR IS THERE?
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>>150290808
Why do you want for there to be "something" so much
>>
>>150290552
>>150290620
If they break up, hopefully their relationship won't be mended until the second last or final episode. The longer the breakup lasts, the more heartbreaking it will be.

In the meantime, maybe Papika and Yayaka can venture into the PI together without Cocona or something.
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>>150290808
Which episode are you even on?
>>
>>150285547
It is just ridiculous fun scheme bullshit R1 is great R2 is good the ending is exactly what it needs to be.
>>
>>150290836
Because then someone could explain it to me and I could stop feeling like an idiot.
>>150290859
Literally just finished 7.
>>
>>150286286
>>150286175
Yaya also doesn't make stupid mistakes, like assuming an enemy is beaten just because you attacked it once. The twins also have this attitude like they could just run house against team flap, if Yaya let them loose. So far she's basically been preventing a direct conflict while sniping kills.
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>>150290879
You've missed the speculah in these threads. There is possibly some deeper meaning. Hard to say for now though but stick around.

>>150290839
Due to how this show generally has gone up to this point I don't think it will last for more than an episode but It would be a pretty great opportunity to sidetrack into some development for Yayaka as she has a chance to interact with the both of them separately. Perhaps she eventually is the one to bring them back together but not before adventuring with each individually? That would be fun.
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>>150290979
I saw some of it in the early threads, but I hadn't started the series yet so I didn't want to spoil myself too much. I've been catching just recently, though.
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>>150290620
I do think Yayaka will play an important role in their make up. Instead of getting Tamao'd. Though the reactions would be fun if she somehow ends with Cocona as a partner or sole survivor after the final boss fight. I for one pray for you to endure the anxiety anon, and hope Papika won't ruin christmas.
>>
>>150290879
The show hasn't tipped its hand much regarding the main plot yet. Just hints, and bits and pieces each episode. Next week is expected to start going into serious mode though, whereas up until now it's been about immersing us in the characters and each of the worlds.
>>
>>150290028
11000 posts really isn't much you know. Earlier on in the season /a/ had 7000 posts on this show in a week.
>>
>>150290970
Yuyu has anger issues, she's wanted to smack a bitch since ep 3.
>>
>>150290979
Depending on how serious the break-up will be it could be a plot of the week or a two-parter. I don't think that the series will go from ep 9 until the climax having the main characters at odds with each other, and I don't think it'd be a wise move either.
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>>150291012
It depends on what you mean by deeper meaning. We're just starting to get to the deeper plot with all the Mimi stuff now. If you're looking for overarching symbolism I would say that outside of the main plot the development of Cocona as a character both in how she views herself and the world around her as well as the development of her feelings for Papika have been a big thing.

>>150291021
My hope comes from the fact that if they were going to spend so much time developing Papika's relationship with Cocona I don't see why they would throw it all out in the end for something stupid other than cheep heartstring tugging. This just doesn't seem like the type of show to pull that shit. Still, it honestly shocks me how much this show is making me care about it. Never really felt this way about a show before.
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>>150290308
I really feel like the puddle shot at the end of 5 was 'closure' to this particular motif.

It would be pretty cool if it comes back in the upcoming episodes now that Cocona's almost surely gonna get all depressed
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>>150264413
Oi cunts I wrote a song for my main cunt Cocona

You are my Shelia
My only Shelia
You give me VB
When I watch the footy
You'll never know, cunt
I'll never dog you
Please don't take my Shelia away

That cunt better like it.
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>>150291357
I think I remember reading that shot was put in at the directors instructions from the screening event tweets.
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>>150291705
Delinquent papika is best papika.
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>>150291713
>>150291357
I guess it's also worth noting that when we see the jail tree from the dream, it's episode 4- then Cocona 'comes out of her shell' or whatever and the next time we see the dream it's again shortened. Not necessarily implying that Cocona went back to seeing less of it diegetically, but they consciously opted out of showing that part again.

They will definitely show the extended dream at some point, and it could be placed right at a moment of high emotional turmoil/uncertainty. Maybe have Cocona also learn something ~IMPORTANT~ from Mimi.
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>>150291705
Come on mate. Most of us speak the queen's English, not that dumb bogan crap.
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>>150291952
Yeah but people only know us for our bogan language so.
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>>150264413
我...我为可可娜写了一首歌。
你是我的可可娜
我唯一的可可娜
你让我快乐
当天空是灰色的
你永远不会知道,亲爱的
我是多么爱你
请不要带走我的可可娜
我希望她会喜欢。
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>>150289034
>>150289055
>>150289413
She won't be able to draw anything "good" now that they fixed her though. I mean she can have good technique, but no inspiration anymore.
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>>150292322
You don't know that for sure. Obviously her former work lost its meaning to her after the feelings that motivated that art were , but it's not like she needed that motivation to draw things when she was a child. I think it would be thematically consistent if Iro was painting again the next time we see her.
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>>150292322
As for inspiration, her new social life and all the teen angst and sex that comes with it will probably provide plenty. At least that's how it worked for some artfag friends of mine.
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fuck the japs i already preordered
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>>150292900
Joke's on you, because I just canceled my pre-order.
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500!
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>>150292997
But why
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>>150253128
>Every cockpit was literally a cock pit
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>>150274066
Coconaa!! szeretlek!!
>>
what the FUCK is a flip fapper?
>>
>>150293734
Me
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>>150293743
You
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>>150293734
Me
>>
>>150293734
You
>>
>>150293734
You
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>>150293734
A filipino tomboy from the 1920's
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>>150293734
Them
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>>150293734
Me
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>>150293734
A mystery.
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Honestly think there should be no new thread until previews are out. Just saying.
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>>150294529
Who cares. The previews will just be in the middle of the next thread
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>>150294529
Honestly I enjoy the discussion in most FF threads and I'm pretty happy we always ignore opinions like yours.
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