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>***,*27位/***,*30位 (**1,061 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/11 Utapri
>***,*34位/***,*34位 (**3,695 pt) [*,*77予約] 2016/12/30 Yuri on Ice Amazon
>***,*85位/***,*85位 (**3,356 pt) [*,*26予約] 2016/12/30 Yuri on Ice
>***,112位/***,117位 ◎ (**3,542 pt) [*,*92予約] 2016/12/24 DRIFTERS
>***,127位/***,127位 (**3,572 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/11/23 WWW.WORKING!!
>***,136位/***,143位 ◎ (**4,412 pt) [*,*70予約] 2016/12/24 DRIFTERS Amazon
>***,138位/***,138位 (**3,503 pt) [*,*33予約] 2016/12/21 Hibike S2
>***,193位/***,193位 (**3,400 pt) [*,*25予約] 2016/12/14 Touken Ranbu
>***,229位/***,229位 ○ (**2,410 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/07 Haikyuu
>***,312位/***,307位 (**2,111 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/12/21 Natsume Go
>***,323位/***,403位 (***,918 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/12/21 ViVid Strike!
***,337位/***,328位 (**2,135 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/07 Haikyuu
>***,469位/***,469位 (***,503 pt) [*,*14予約] 2016/11/23 Keijo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>***,555位/***,540位 (**1,234 pt) [*,*34予約] 2016/12/21 Hibike Amazon
>***,684位/***,684位 (***,458 pt) [*,*49予約] 2016/12/21 Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku
>***,740位/***,705位 (***,337 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/12/07 Occultic;Nine
>***,780位/***,780位 (***,943 pt) [*,*12予約] 2016/12/21 Shuumatsu no Izetta
>***,957位/***,957位 (**2,096 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/02/24 Gundam IBO
>***,978位/***,967位 (**1,085 pt) [*,*13予約] 2016/12/23 Okusama ga Seitokaicho
>**1,063位/**1,333位 (***,775 pt) [*,*30予約] 2017/02/24 Anitore XX
>**1,102位/**1,082位 (**1,411 pt) [*,**8予約] 2017/02/24 Brave Witches
>**1,222位/**1,193位 ○ (***,284 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Udon
>**1,284位/**1,222位 (***,394 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Long Riders
>**1,313位/**1,284位 (***,740 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/12/21 Magic-Kyun
>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
>**1,593位/**1,580位 (***,546 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Girlish Number
>**1,675位/**1,647位 (***,754 pt) [*,*17予約] 2017/02/24 Teekyuu S8
>**1,947位/**1,927位 (***,795 pt) [*,**3予約] 2017/01/25 3-gatsu no Lion
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>**2,033位/**1,998位 (***,464 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Lostorage incited WIXOSS
>**2,190位/**3,864位 (***,459 pt) [*,*11予約] 2017/02/24 Mahou Shoujo Nante Mou Ii Desukara
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
>**2,764位/**2,747位 ◎ (***,130 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/27 Soushin Shoujo Matoi
>**3,383位/**3,326位 (***,385 pt) [*,*12予約] 2016/12/28 SHOW BY ROCK!!
>**4,286位/**4,229位 (***,194 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Watashi ga Motete Dousunda
>**4,325位/**4,227位 (***,256 pt) [*,**7予約] 2016/12/21 Stella no Mahou
>**6,342位/**6,171位 ◎ (***,*55 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/25 Fune wo Amu
>*13,943位/*14,117位 (***,127 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/11/30 Nanbaka
>*20,415位/*20,368位 (***,116 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/25 ALL OUT!!
>*20,573位/*20,478位 ◎ (***,*55 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/02/24 Bubuki Buranki
>*24,493位/*24,107位 (***,*18 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/02/03 Idol Memories
>*48,704位/*48,509位 (***,*59 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/27 TRICKSTER
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Nobody cares anymore
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>>150221640
>drifters
It deserves it, AOTS for me.
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>>150221640
>>**1,284位/**1,222位 (***,394 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Long Riders

Huh that's better than I was expecting
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>>150221646
>>*48,704位/*48,509位 (***,*59 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/27 TRICKSTER

RIP
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>there are people who actually think Utapri will outsell Yuri on Ice
Keep dreaming
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I can't into these charts

How is drifters doing? is that good?
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>>150221646
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
Why is that show so overrated around here again?
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>>150221640
Someone remind me the magic number for profitability.
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>>150221646
>>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Floppers
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>>150221640
I'M COMING TO SAVE YOU
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>>150222810
They have to announce the concert ticket yet
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>***,780位/***,780位 (***,943 pt) [*,*12予約] 2016/12/21 Shuumatsu no Izetta
>**1,284位/**1,222位 (***,394 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Long Riders
>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
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>>150223207
Someone is using a pic I made. I feel happy.
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>>150223557
nice blog faggot
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>>150221640
>***,478位/***,469位 (***,503 pt) [*,*14予約] 2016/11/23 競女!!!!!!!! Vol.1(初回仕様版) [Blu-ray]
>**3,089位/**3,039位 (***,256 pt) [*,**4予約] 2016/11/23 【Amazon.co.jp限定】競女!!!!!!!! Vol.1(初回仕様版)(全巻購入特典:「アニメイラスト描き下ろし全巻収納BOX(キャラクター:のぞみ、さやか、風音、のん)」引換シリアルコード付) [Blu-ray]
>**3,486位/**3,395位 ○ (***,172 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/11/23 競女!!!!!!!! Vol.1(初回仕様版) [DVD]
>*28,347位/*28,187位 ○ (***,*94 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/11/23 【Amazon.co.jp限定】競女!!!!!!!! Vol.1(初回仕様版)(全巻購入特典:「アニメイラスト描き下ろし全巻収納BOX(キャラクター:のぞみ、さやか、風音、のん)」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]

why were the other 3 not counted?
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>>150221640
>>150221646
FUCK OFF
NO ONE CARES
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>>150222931
It's terrible, only 112~117 units when you need at least 6000 to get a S2.
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>>150223207
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>>150222997

For the starters it has nothing to do with disc sales for years now.
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>>150223872
>Using a number that includes daytime TV.
Dumb
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>>150221640
>>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
>>**1,593位/**1,580位 (***,546 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Girlish Number

this saddens me
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>>150221646
Doesn't everyone hate Flip Flappers in Japan? I'm amazed is so high.
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>>150224120
Its a bunch of /a/ fags buying it probably
Because nobody else likes it
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>>150224120
that's not even close to being "high"
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>>150221640
>Iron Menstruation falls hard
It begins
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>>150221640
>Fags on ice that high

Typical japan
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>>150224508
Let's get it started. Let's get it started in here~
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>>150224508
Only the first Vol will sell ok, roughly 10k. The others will drop drastically as expected of fujoSHIT
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>>150224508
Maybe you shouldn't have pirated youre favourite show, huh?
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>>150221646
>>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
I can't believe it. There must be another edition somewhere that's reaching a few thousand points ;_;
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>>150224778
>**2,672位/**2,644位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 【Amazon.co.jp限定】フリップフラッパーズ 1(全巻購入特典:tanu描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付) [Blu-ray]
>**4,110位/**4,208位 (***,404 pt) [*,**2予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [Blu-ray]
>**7,676位/**7,179位 ○ (***,*65 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/06 【Amazon.co.jp限定】フリップフラッパーズ 1(全巻購入特典:tanu描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]
>145,474位/145,357位 ○ (***,*47 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [DVD]
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>>150223625
If it's not top 200 it doesn't really matter.
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>>150224855
ayy
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>>150224672
1 Buy wouldn't have saved Nanbaka
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>>150224855
JUST
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>>150221640
Where is the expected break even point? Haikyuu?
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>>150224508
It's false advertisement, it isn't even Yuri!
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>>150222993
i would to know this too
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>>150223797
>units when you need at least 6000 to get a S2.

Shitposters keep changing the number.

3000 is good
4000 is good
5000 season 2
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>***,127位/***,127位 (**3,572 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/11/23 WWW.WORKING!!
A rare display of relative taste
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>>150221646
>*48,704位/*48,509位 (***,*59 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/27 TRICKSTER
Endride 2
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>>150223797
>>150225039
What the fuck are you fags talking about?

Nothing defines a season 2.

Your shit could sell 10k that it wouldn't garant a S2.
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What i really want to know is how Vivid Strike got that high up, Is ryona really that popular?
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>>150225186
Geez anon, you are so smart, now anon will know he shouldn't expect a S2 for All Out despite the amazing sales.
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>>150225257
Just the typical Madoka-clone sales boost.
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>>150222810
Spotted the delusional fujo.
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Man, sales this year have been an all around low. For comparison, by this time last year we already had 11 series with 10K or above average (the number where you can consider a show a great success), while 2016 has miserable 6 series, almost half of what we had last year, and looking at that, i hardly believe any fall series will reach 10k, maybe YoI, otherwise, it has been a really bad year for anime tv sales (at least on BD/DVD stuff).
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>>150225514
>i hardly believe any fall series will reach
Are you dumb? Most of the 2016 series will come from Fall once Reddit Zero is out of the 10k zone.
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>>150224120
>>150224171
Not preordering doesn't mean hating, retards.
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>>150225157
Endride had dedicated watchers and thread everyweek. Trickster is dead on /a/
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>>150221640
>bootleg working actually sells
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>>150224345
>Menstrual-kun shitposting on other threads
When will you do the world a favor and end your life?
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>>150225514
Disc sales were always on decline. Stalkershitters-/v/ermins just can't understand it/
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>>150225824
>Most of the 2016 series will come from Fall
Not with those numbers they wont, nothing outside of maybe YoI or Utapri look like will make 10k averages.

>>150226002
Actually 15 sales were better than 14 in term of best sellers.
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>>150224855
Just have a look at the sheer amount of effort the production team poured into the last episode. And zero sale in return. That's so fucking sad.
Meanwhile generic fujoshit stuff are selling like hotcakes.
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>>150225983
You retarded newshit. WWWWorking is based on original webcomic, older than cast with Poplar.
>>150226068
>>150226102
And it's not even selling that good - those are preoder points, it went on sale a 4 days ago. Not being in top100 is sign for shit sales.
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>>150226118
Sadly flip floppers is not a very good show outside the animation.
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>>150226178
What does being good have to do with sales?
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>>150226175
>it went on sale a 4 days ago
It went on sale on Spetember 4th. And its graph was pretty stable, 7k points across all versions. Even if overestimated it should be easy 5k volume 1.
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>>150226175
But it looks like a fucking ugly bootleg compared to earlier seasons you gigantic twat.
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>>150221646
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
>*20,415位/*20,368位 (***,116 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/25 ALL OUT!!
Ouch.
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>>150226405
It looks cheapter but thankfully it's not Denpa Kyoushit level.
>>150226359
>It went on sale on Spetember 4th
I don't know if you are this new or that retarded. Going on sale means it's possible to buy it. ~3 months ago it was placed on amazon and available to preorder, you fucking moron.
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>>150226043
Drifters' volumes are already adding up to 9k+.

It's a shit sales year, but Fall 2016 is by far the strongest in a while.
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If any cute newfagglet actually cares about the sources and wants to make his own shitpost stalker thread to insult another guy's taste in anime or telling everyone that whatever data that is being posted right now is wrong, here's the links.

http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index.cgi

http://rankstker.net/index_news.cgi
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>>150226683
>Going on sale means it's possible to buy it
Buy, verb (used with object), bought, buying.
1) to acquire the possession of, or the right to, by paying or promising to pay an equivalent, especially in money; purchase.

Yeap, just as I said, 4th of September.

And the only one new here is you. It doesn't really matter what rank it's 4 days after release when 90% of 1st week numbers come from preorders. Besides top-100 (even few days before or after release) was always territory of 7k+ sellers only.
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>>150223930

Nighttime anime makes literally 90% of it's profits from merch.

That's why series like Symphogear get more seasons.
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>>150227261
Yuki Yuna had mediocre merch sales but good BD sales. It got a S2.

Symphogear's S2 and S3 selling so well also surely is a factor.

The fact is, you don't have the proper data for Late Night Anime. That 90% has no base in reality and the graph posted before is tainted by daytime stuff which follows a completely different business model.
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>>150221640
>Yuri on Ice
>show isn't about cool lesbians

Why was this allowed?
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>>150227451
>Yuki Yuna had mediocre merch sales

Says who?
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>>150221646
I know everyone is shitposting about Flip Flappers tanking, but nobody is talking about the elephant in the room.
>**3,383位/**3,326位 (***,385 pt) [*,*12予約] 2016/12/28 SHOW BY ROCK!!
I remember the first season selling pretty well. What the fuck happened?
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>>150227573
The fact most products got slowly discontinued and the LN and Manga never get sales meaningful enough to even be measurable.
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>>150227632

Everything gets slowly discontinued. This happens to all shows.
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>>150227705
For example, It's uncommon for only one character in a "popular" series to get a nendo. I don't know much about the girls in the series, but surely they aren't that uninteresting that they would produce at least a second nendo (like they did with Haifuri, after the good sales of the original one.)
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>>150227585
Disc art came late, people would rather watch the show on abema TV and niconico than to own them, too many things like music CDs to buy all around coming out almost weekly, new stuff is more interesting than old stuff, lots of events happening that also drain money.
The usual.
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>>150226178
It's fun and has a high rewatch value too.
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>>150227495
To trigger /a/. Now you get it.
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Seriously though why the heck is Girlish Number doing so poorly? It can't just be because of Chitose's personality since plenty of shows with bitchy MCs have sold well.
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>>150228033
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>>150226997
Nips have the best taste.
Gundam 0079 remake soon.
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>>150228343
Watched IV yesterday, sunrise should stick to OVA and movie.
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>>150221640
Kyoani lost?
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>>150226118
Generic fujoshit sells more than generic yurishit

Who cares?
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I can't even look at these threads anymore, seeing fujoshit so strong makes me worry about the future.
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>>150228970
Why? Do you feel emasculated because Japanese male otaku that you mistakenly felt kinship with aren't buying anime discs a lot?
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>>150229120
BECAUSE ITS "US" AGAINST "THEM" BRO!
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>>150229120
Because every season there's more fujoshit and good anime studios working on them instead of cute girls.
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>>150228524
>>150228343
>tfw Char is so based Sunrise decide to make more of it
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>>150229180
They are both the cancer which is killing anime
So it doesnt really matter which one sells more
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I suddenly remembered my post I did few weeks ago. Time to update it.

Best selling shows of 2016 (some numbers are very roughly estimated, some numbers are not final) and their average sales:
>65,167 Love Live! Sunshine!! - idolshit
>40,000 Yuri on Ice - fujoshit
>30,000 Utapri s4 - idolshit/fujoshit
>31,355 Koyomimonogatari
>15,000 Touken Ranbu - fujoshit
>12,508 B-Project - idolshit/fujoshit
>10,916 Macross Delta - idolshit
>10,845 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - isekaishit
>10,293 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikats - isekaishit
>10,000 Drifters - isekaishit

SHAFT is literally saving anime with its monogatori series.
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>>150229421
>40,000 Yuri on Ice
>30,000 Utapri
yeah no
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>>150229180
Every season there is more anime in general. There is no decrease in cute girls just because there is an increase in cute boys.
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>>150229421
LL Sunshine and drifters is great.
Kill yourself SHARTfag
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>>150229421
>31,355 Koyomimonogatari - haremshit
Call it what it is.
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Wait wait wait.

You're telling me Mappa has a show that actually sells?

Is this real life?
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>>150229615
One of the few shows aimed exclusively at straight males

Get mad tumblrina
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>>150229725
I don't watch YoI but I am happy for MAPPA. Literally their first show to make money.
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Anons talking about shit ruining anime when anime has always been mostly shit.
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>>150229729
>being so insecure that you force yourself to watch "100% Herero approved" anime and discard everything else
Lmaoing pretty hard
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>>150229902
Your SJW is showing
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>>150226043
Don't be fucking dumb.
Potential 30k:
UtaPri
YoI (this one is fucking crazy avg could be 15-40k who knows)
Potential 15k:
Touken Ranbu
Potential 10k:
Haikyuu
Drifters
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>>150226118
>generic fujoshit stuff are selling like hotcakes
As it should be.
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>>150229421
>Koyomimonogatari
How the hell did I not know this existed?
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>>150229421
>Love Live! Sunshine!!
WAIFU BAIT
>Yuri on Ice
FUJO BAIT
>Utapri s4
FUJO BAIT
>Koyomimonogatari
WAIFU BAIT
>Touken Ranbu
FUJO BAIT
>B-Project
FUJO BAIT
>Macross Delta
WAIFU BAIT
>Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - isekaishit
OMNIPANDERING
>Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikats - isekaishit
WAIFU BAIT
>Drifters - isekaishit
OMNIPANDERING

Fix'd
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>>150231306
>OMNIPANDERING
There was no fujo or fanservice for female's. It was outright male targeted so nothing omnie about it, retard.
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>>150231615
it was about KonoSuba
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>>150231306
>Love Live! Sunshine!!
>WAIFU BAIT
Half of the consumers are females
So its dyke BAIT
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>>150231679
Idolfans are idolfans.
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> 3gatsu that low

God damn everything.
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>>150225055

> that image

Thanks m8, stealing it.
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>>150231735
That would be like complaining that 12-sai doesn't look like it won't sell too much.
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>>150231731
Utapri is idol too then
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>>150231802
It is, and it's otome.
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>>150225257

Vivid Strike has ryona?
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Did keijo temporarily go up or is it doing kind of fine now?
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>***,978位/***,967位 (**1,085 pt) [*,*13予約] 2016/12/23 Okusama ga Seitokaicho

Hetfag is lost
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>>150233464
>8 min show is selling more than every yurishit show

Normality is saved
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>>150233464
>holding a short on the same standard as a full series
Shit anon, the hell you doing
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>>150228812
>generic
You have to go back.
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>>150233800
You too
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>>150229729
>>150229915
Harem garbage is equally as ridicule worthy as homo garbage
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>>150233434
the first (of six) BD/DVD was released on November 23th, the preorder numbers went up until that date; I'd like to know how well it's going to sell too (preorders + sales)
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>>150234076
I want homo harem. Does it exist?
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>tfw all your favorite anime this season can't even sell above 500
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>>150228970
Someday gay and lesbian relationship will be accepted. Someday. The future looks great
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>>150233434
We'll know Tuesday how well Keijo did. I, uh, wouldn't get your hopes up though.
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>>150221640
Wasn't Occultic;Nine flopping harder than that? What happened?
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>>150227999
I mean it's a nice show but I can understand why someone wouldn't want to spend +$400 on the volumes.
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>>150235348
I guess nips realized it was a good show after the twist.
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>>150221640
With Fujoshit selling the most out of seasonal anime and KanColle flopping horribly at the box office can we finally declare Otaku anime as dead?
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>>150225257
Vivid Strike doesn't have any storefront presence, it's heavily Amazon frontloaded so Stalker will overestimate it by a decent margin.
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>>150235879
Not after Love Live.
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>>150225514
Touken Ranbu, Yuri on Ice, Utapri, and maybe Drifters will hit 10k average.
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>>150227999
Why would you think Girlish Number would sell? Why would otaku buy a show that absolutely shits on them and their tastes? They'd buy it if the brother was MC and had a harem with the 5 girls plus Momoka's manager, but that ain't happening. Otaku don't want to be shit on. They want to buy anime that celebrates and glorifies the industry like Love Live.
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>>150235348
Occultic;Nine is still flopping pretty hard. I mean it's first volume is expected to sell like 500 BDs. That's pretty bad. Like worse than Keijo bad.
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>>150235962
You forgot Haikyuu. Drifters may be overestimated, but Haikyuu is definitely underestimated because of it's female fanbase.
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>>150236199
Nah, Haikyuu won't make it. Vol 1 and 2 will probably be above 10k but the rest will slump below and drag average below 10k. There was a 15k difference between the sales of the first and last vol of the first season and there was a 9k difference between the sales of the first and last vol of the second season.

Drifters has a much better chance since it's just one big BD box.
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>>150236504
Fair enough. I'm not confident in Drifters because it being a being BD box and it being the type of show that it is means it's heavily amazon based and likely overestimated. (Though Stalker does have those expensive price adjusters.)
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>>150235348

>A week from release
>Event ticket
>Still ranking in the 4 digit range 95% of the time.
>No longer flopping on stalker

I kind of want some of those drugs but I also like knowing what I'm talking about too. Damn....
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>>150236504
Kinda makes you wonder if YoI is cannibalizing Haikyuu or if it's just a natural decline of the series. (I wondered the same thing with Free S2.)
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When are the first volumes coming out?
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Shit taste knows no borders.
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>>150223557
Kill yourself, mine is used thousands of times and i didn't bragged.
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>>150237167
http://www.someanithing.com/5777
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>>150237314
Cheers.
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>>150223797
That number is the rank you idiot.
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>>150237057
I'm sure there is definitely cannibalization going on. Fujos spend money, but they're used to having only 1 or 2 shows a season to buy. With those 4 (and don't forget Natsume as well) that's a lot of money spread around.
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Can someone tell me what happened to the anime scheduled for today? 3-gatsu? Udon?
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Why are japanese men such faggots?

Why are they letting women to take over?
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>Flop Flopping Floppers
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>>150221640
Threadly reminder that Hibike S2 sales are higher because a good portion of orders go straight to KyoAni Shop and aren't computed in this rank.
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>>150238415
Because men are tired of garbage like Asterisk and Hundred existing
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>>150239121
But there's nothing like Asterisk or Hundred this season
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MEN BTFO
YURI ON ICE WILL SELL 100K, SCREENCAP THIS
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>>150221646
>*20,415位/*20,368位 (***,116 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/01/25 ALL OUT!!
Thank goodness it's 2-cour anyway.
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>>150230357

Thank goodness we have an insane surplus of anime every season instead of it being like 25-30 shows like back in the old days.

If we were still at those numbers, the entire chart would be fujoshit and I'd tell you to go fuck yourself, but since we have twice as many things airing each season there's enough space to even produce shit that doesn't sell like yuri, hetshit, CGCDT, shojo manga adaptations, etc. then there's no need to throw insults.
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>>150221640
Occultic;nine improves
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>>150226118
>B-but they make cutie hard detailed drugwings
Nobody cares, dyke enabler
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>>150221640
Soul Buster? Bloodivores?
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>>150221640
>>150221646
>Flip Floppers
>ViVid Strike above Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku
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>>150242087
In the trash just as where other chink trash belong.
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>>150223814
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>>150239193
The fact men's pandering shows are flopping harder than fujo pandering is a sign.
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Is Yuri on Ice even a good show? I've seen the animation and it's pretty terrible 2bh.
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>>150242436
Why do women have more purchasing power than men now? I thought 2016 was a conservative year.
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>>150242578
Pure garbage
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>>150221646
fune wo amu doesn't deserve this
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>>150242186
Don't answer me if you can't even check the sales yourself underb&
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>>150243261
gomenasai, chink chonk
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>>150243304
Weren't you amerifats having some festivities with your turkey brethen?
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>>150243411
wow you slit eyes are even worse at this than the burgers you're mocking
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>>150243485
Who are you talking to, fattie? We aren't two collectives mocking each other. Just you, a fattie, being mocked
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>>150243539
ok chink
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>>150243608
You realize that only one person is getting a valid insult thrown, right, massive lardie?
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>>150242911
Who the fuck do you think would buy Fune wo Amu?
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>>150221646
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
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>>150242578
If you like buttsex it's a good show
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>>150242578
No one watches it for the animation. It's watched for the homo.
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>>150242636
Otaku all died from malnutrition. Fujos usually have jobs.
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>>150221640
Pretty surprised Drifters is up there. I thought it'd be way too niche witch all the historical humor.
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>>150221640
Why do cellulite rife landwhales buy so much shit
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>>150245400
It's Hellsing 2.0.
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where is the magi poster
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>>150231306
>Macross Delta
>WAIFU BAIT
hoina
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>>150245400
I'm actually finding it a lot more interesting with the historical aspects mixed in.
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>>150231796
But Honey and Clover sold quite decently if I remember correctly.
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>>150245504
You're just mad that your favourite uguu kawaii moeblob mecha anime is shit
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>>150245837
Honey and Clover was a masterful adaptation which exceeded the source material.
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>>150245876
Finish off that tray of oreos, fatty.
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>>150242636
What?

Only November 2016 and onward is the conservative year. And the next four years.
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>>150221646
>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers
>**2,764位/**2,747位 ◎ (***,130 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/27 Soushin Shoujo Matoi

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150221646
>>**4,325位/**4,227位 (***,256 pt) [*,**7予約] 2016/12/21 Stella no Mahou
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>>150245550
I miss edgybitch-chan ;_;
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>>150246750
>Soushin Shoujo Matoi
???
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>>150221646
>**2,033位/**1,998位 (***,464 pt) [*,**2予約] 2016/12/21 Lostorage incited WIXOSS
There's a reason why you should never fuck your franchise. Thanks a lot, useless prick selectors.
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>>150246809
Red came too late to save the show.
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>>150246809
Still sold better than their game.
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Flip Flop is so incredibly dull it should be lower. Girlish number should be higher, I guess elevens don't like shows that make light of their seiyus.
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>>150246750
>>150247401
That's what happens when you try to Cross Ange or Cinderella Girls an original show from a mediocre studio. Just because it worked on them doesn't mean it will work on anything. The dads and their male friends are useless pieces of shit.
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>>150248508
How did they fuck with it? I think this new season is pretty decent.
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>>150246809
>>150248601
Should've fucking remove the annoying fujo fuck or turn her into a yurifag, as well as remove the shitty fathercon/brocon shit. Kirara shows like KinMoza and GochiUsa sold well because they didn't have those bullshit.
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>>150248508
Male selector is a mistake
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Literally never heard of Utapri, is it another Diabolik Lovers clone set in the modern era?
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>>150248814
>New season is pretty decent
Fuck you. You know nothing about the original WIXOSS.

>>150248865
Fucking this.
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>flip flopping

Oh well. Anything more than one cour wouldn't have made sense anyway. Might as well make the most of the current ride.
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>>150248965
Utapri is the male idol show that made studios realize they could make a profit from marketing towards girls. Basically the [email protected] of fujo shows.
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>>150248965
No. It's the genderswapped counterpart to Idolmaster.
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>>150249204
>>150249228
[email protected] already has its own genderswap version.
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>*24,493位/*24,107位 (***,*18 pt) [*,**0予約] 2017/02/03 Idol Memories
Honestly, even if it removed those three useless pricks, the show is still shit anyway. How the fuck did they hire Nana fucking Mizuki for this?
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>>150249389
iirc they announced the first [email protected] male unit the same year they announced the first Utapri game to compete with them. Utapri then sold like crazy and now people give so little of a shit about side M that it doesn't even have an anime while Utapri has 4 seasons and like 10 games.
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>**1,947位/**1,927位 (***,795 pt) [*,**3予約] 2017/01/25 3-gatsu no Lion

Feels bad man.
On a side note, anyone knows if there's a name for Kiriyama Rei Hairstyle?
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>>150221640
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>>150248686

>Flip Flappers dull
>Girlish number not dull

You what nigga?
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>>150249528
Correcting myself, first male [email protected] unit was 2011 while first Utapri game was 2010. Still pretty certain they made them in response to Utapri though, considering the characters from those units were made poster characters for Side M several years later.
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>>150221640
>>***,740位/***,705位 (***,337 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/12/07 Occultic;Nine
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>>150237057
>>150236504
Anon please, Haikyuu will definitely reach 10k easily.

Remember that fucking Joker Game last season? It was only estimated around 2k, but in reality it sold above 7k. With all its fanbase, there's no way Haikyuu S3 can't even reach 10k.

Also,
>implying fujo can't buy 2 disc of different series at the same time.
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>>150222993
Initially it were sakuga fags hyping it, but when turned out the show litterally has almost zero of it, now the threads are kept alive by /u/
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>>150221640
>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
Fuck.
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>>150222993
>sales = quality

where did this meme come from
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>>150250552
/v/
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>>150227999
It deseves lot more, and given Wataru fanase i`d expected more sales by default too. Surprise of the season show, sad its doing so badly - though its media project, so maybe promoting ln/manga and CDs is sufficient for it .
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>>150231735
Blame Shaft.
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>>150221640
>***,127位/***,127位 (**3,572 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/11/23 WWW.WORKING!!
Did they just blindly order it without watching it, thinking it was going to be like the old series?
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>>150250174
You can already tell the haikyuu hype is dead and this will be their worst selling season.
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>>150222993
Because it's good.
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>>150238951
Anyone buying at KyoAni shop also recieves Novel vol.1,A5 drawn card with Kumiko, Reina, Hazuki and Sapphire and stafflist comment card

Amazon doesnt have those bonuses, but is cheaper because has discount.
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>>150248704
Cross Ange was just fine.
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>>150250507
Its ok, we still love it.
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>>150250724

I think they are enjoying it more for the comedy then the comfy factor that the first two seasons had. This one I laugh out loud regularly and watch it with a friend. Last one I would sit down and get comfy.
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>all my favorite anime are doing shit financially

what went wrong?
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>>150251112
The only ones you should care about having bad sales are those that are original anime depending on good sales to get a possible continuation.
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>>150251112
Stop watching anime.
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>>150250552
>flip floppers
>quality
where did this meme come from?
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>>150250401
>sakuga
>the show litterally has almost zero of it
There's a pair of slow and plain episodes indeed. But most are filled with sakuga, gorgeous backgrounds, awesome visual direction and creative stuff.
Did you even watch the last episode?
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>>150251372
Nice bait. Each episode has about 5-10 secons total of sakuga max. Hell, Ping Pong Girls have more of it.
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>>150251410

And a better soundtrack.
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>>150251174
Probably from the people who actually watch it.
Although really, if you don't like flip flappers you are actually just stupid. It's a nice objective measure that you can take to the bank.
It's like that bit in quantum leap where you look into the mirror and you realise you're retarded and your entire life changes.
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>>150251410
you're not even trying my man

>>150251424
this is true though
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>>150251487
Its really pathetic as Flip FLOPPER fags are desperate in their attempts to justify their own existence. FF is everything that is bad with anime industry - 2nd hand, badly animated, incoherent attempt by animator and director with no experience to make "original" show that is as "original" as last weeks steak that was already chewed by your dog and than shat out.

This is a show that fails absolutely in everything, whose threads consist exclusively of /u/ fags lewdposting and whose whole existence is insult to better shows like Kyousogiga or, hell, even Rolling Girls which is masterpiece compared to.
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>>150251596
ok.
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>>150251596
>"original" as last weeks steak that was already chewed by your dog
grats on the single most autismal attempt at a joke I've heard in a very long time
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>>150249540
>copy paste anime haircut that will never ever work on a real person so don't even try it
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>>150251596
>Making the cliche wordplay on the word original
Whoa anon, so savvy.
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This season has been pretty lame.
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>>150251596
>incoherent attempt by animator and director with no experience to make "original" show

They still tried. Nobody can fault them for that.
The only way to make popular original anime right now is to have an interesting story or go full on pandering. FF is not pandering the right way, which is why it's flopping.
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>>150251854
>The only way to make popular original anime right now is to have an interesting story or go full on pandering
Izetta is doing okay and it's doing neither of those things well
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>>150251854
>>150251962
Kabaneri also sold very well and also had neither of those things.
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>>150251994
Kabaneri also got marketed out the ass by amazon
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>>150251854
FF isn't pandering at all.
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>>150251854
The issue with Flip Flappers is not that it is original show not based on a franchize or manga, but actually that it tries to be "original" in visuals in content, however bringing no original elements and just rehashing style and elements already presented by other shows before - Kyousogiga, Kill la Kill, Rolling Girls, FLCL, Abenobashi etc.

Thus instead of being "original", it feels like poor Chinese copy trying to emulate actually good works.

Kiznaiver for example was nother show with unique style recently that avoided this issue. The whole issue with FF - is that its NOT unique nor original.
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>>150252121
>it's an ESL with shit opinions that he can't properly express episode
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>>150251962
>>150251994
When I say popular I mean shows that don't get forgotten as soon as they finish airing and they get sequels and get milked for years.
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>>150252121
>Kiznaiver for example was nother show with unique style recently that avoided this issue.

Kiznaiver was pointless, not entertaining and forgettable.
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>>150252152
The remainingi defiant FF fans remind me of desperate Shaft fags that tried to protect Denpa Onna to the last, even though even their own crowd failed them.

No one cares about FF now, despite big hype sakuga fags created before resulting in most of /a/ actually giving it a go, and no one even will remember there was such show by next season. The only reason its name brought up now at all is to laugth at the few pathetic fags defending it.
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>>150252232
And this is, anons, is an example of a typical FF fag.
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>>150222931
DRIFTERS is a box. Single BD and DVD are coming in Janurary after the BOX.
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>>150252233
>also a phone fag
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I didn't know Strike was doing that well.
Gives me hope for a second season
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>>150252158
For that to happen, the original anime need to be backed up by a merchandise giant from the get-go and be advertised accordingly.
And to reach lots of viewers, it would need a prime time spot on TV, be popular enough among the normal population, it needs events, collaborations and so on.

In short, it needs to be a multimedia-project.
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>>150252259
So you're actually just a triggerfag who's mad because FF is too close in style to them? That makes a lot more sense now.
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>>150252259
FF is not done yet but it's probably going to end up being just as pointless too.

At least it had better visuals than Kiznaiver.
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>>150252259
I don't even like FlipFlapper and even I know that Kiznaiver was hot trash.
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>>150252233
Your post sounds a lot like just incoherent rage. Whether or not it'll be remembered remains to be seen and how it concludes, but people are definitely enjoying it right now whether you like it or not.
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>>150252449
The only people actually watching FF atm are /u/, which is evident from its threads as the yuri baiting and fanservice is only thing this show has going for it.
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>>150252502
>yuri on ice is my aots
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>>150252502
Which explains all the weekly speculation and discussion about its characters, visuals, story, etc. But of course since you're a shitposter, you'd only take shitposting as the main representative of a fanbase without actually paying attention to anything else.
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>>150252317
The things you mentioned happen when the anime gets popular. Other companies start buying licenses to make the merch in order to capitalize on the hype and craze.

Most anime get popular without the producers expecting it to. No one knew Madoka and Garupan would be as successful as they ended up being.

But there are anime that producers have complete faith it would sell, so they have merch from the get go and advertise it to hell, like Kabaneri and A/Z. Those anime tend to be paint by the number works, they have a set of elements that happen to be popular at the moment.
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>>150252555
Good taste. Actual example of good and successful original show with great art, characters and story.
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>>150252650
The literal homosexual is revealed.
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>>150252681
I am not watching it for homo fanservice, unlike the only reason you watch Flip Floppers for. Puts this comment in ironic light >>150252592
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>>150252259
Dude no, don't go down like this. Kiznaiver was a total uninspired hackjob of a script mildly enlivened by overachieving direction, it does not deserve this praise.
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>>150252717
Projecting onto me doesn't discredit anything that anon said. Fudge packing must really fry your brain.
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>>150252717
>one obvious shitpost proves a serious post wrong!

Try to be less stupid anon.
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>>150252717
If anything, you just proved that post right thanks to your cherrypicking.
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>>150221640
>>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
Even in Japan it's grossly underrated. Shame.
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>>150252868
Bet the OST would sell more than the show if they actually released it.
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>>150252899
No doubt about it! It's easily the OST of the season from what I've heard so far.

It's amazing how much hype some good music can add to what's essentially nothing more than one-dimensional moeblobs playing team ping pong tournaments.
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>>150253046
>moeblobs guys amirite XD
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>>150253046
>>150253148
Not even japan likes moeblobs now. It's over lads, anime is dead.
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>>150222993
Style over substance, /a/ loves trash like that.
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>>150253212
nice comma splice
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>>150253202
>***,138位/***,138位 (**3,503 pt) [*,*33予約] 2016/12/21 Hibike S2
nah we good
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>>150253148
It's my AOTS, but there's no denying that most of the characters have a single extremely simplified and exaggurrated defining trait and have had little to no development so far, and all of their eyes are the size of saucers.
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>>150253202
>He somehow missed the sticky
>He still thinks anime is dead
>>
FLIPPU FLOPPING!
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>>150253276
The appeal lies in the high energy ping pong and the exaggerated character traits anyway. I'd literally drop the show if it slowed to a crawl because of cliche anime character developments it doesn't need.
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>>150253348
I'm not surprised. It has the same problem Phantom World had last year. There's no sense of consequence. At no point can you feel concerned about either character because they both have insane plot armour - which is fine for a comedy but Flip Flappers isn't funny. It's just pretty. Pretty hollow.
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>>150253240
Nice meme grammatical rules.
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>>150253396
>I'd literally drop the show if it slowed to a crawl because of cliche anime character developments it doesn't need.
Now that I think about it, I probably would too - and that's also why the expository first two(ish) episodes felt weaker than the rest imho.
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>>150253437
>muh sense of consequence
It sounds like you just came off a story writing 101 course.
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>>150251696
I'm just curious about the name of his hairstyle dude.
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Is there an anime original that was successful /a/?
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>>150253623
Leave it to trigger and gainax
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>>150253623
Madoka
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>>150253623
Are you asking only about Fall season 2016?
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>>150253623
madoka

also coincidentally the last good anime
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>>150252259
Kiznaiver sold poorly despite all its marketing because it was trash.

Luluco aired in the same season and sold extremely well despite absolutely no marketing because it was good.

Both were original. Both were by trigger.
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>>150253623
Yuri on Ice is an original and it's doing pretty well
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>>150253948
Let us not over-exaggerate Luluco's sales too much.
>1,880

>Kiznaiver Volume 1
1,508
>Kiznaiver Volume 2
647
>Kiznaiver Volume 3
802
>Kiznaiver Volume 4
535
>Kiznaiver Volume 5
368
>Kiznaiver Volume 6
405

Both Trigger-shows sold rather worse than projected by the stalker estimates.
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>>150254138
Keep in mind this is a short with a price tag cheaper than usual.
It's very good, especially compared to Kiznaiver's flop.
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Flip Flaps will probably be /a/'s AOTS wether the japs like it or not
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>>150254138
Kiznaiver was marketed out of its ass by Aniplex.
Luluco is just an unassuming short.
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>>150253623
Yes? How is that even a question? Even on this season we have an anime original selling well.
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>>150222316
>I like dicks
>so dick fanservice: the series is AOTS
Oh boy, oh golly.

The only thing we can conclude is that anime industry is basically for women now, male otaku had to flee to LN/manga only.
No wonder, given the double standards when it comes to fanservice.
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>>150253623
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>150254220
let's face it, japan doesn't even like anime
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>>150250401
>/u/
This fucking meme again ;D
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>>150254290
So LNs are superior now?
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>>150252232
Flip flop cunt lickers was pointless, not entertaining and forgettable.
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>**1,947位/**1,927位 (***,795 pt) [*,**3予約] 2017/01/25 3-gatsu no Lion
Should be even lower to be honest. What a disappointment.
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>>150250401
The threads are just dyke posting

And its probably the same bunch of carpet munchers who are making the threads to post their shit
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>>150254734
>Should be even lower to be honest. What a disappointment.
What happen? Shaft's QUALITY strikes back?
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>>150254734
I'm sort of enjoying it still, but holy hell they had no clue what they were doing trying to make those artsy monologues.

It's like they wanted to feel like TTG but forgot to have the MC say anything other then how depressed and directionless he feels and how shogi gives his life meaning of a sort oh and remember how his parents are dead? They're so dull.
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>>150254782
It's just dull, really weird OST choices and of course Shaft couldn't resist adding their usual headtilts/stills to such a down to earth story, which really disrupt the mood of the original.
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>>150255145
You just dont like the shaft style then?
I like the quirky OST
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>>150255145
>Drama genre is boring in general
>It's also dull
Ugh.
Okay then, thanks.
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>>150255195
>You just dont like the shaft style then?
Not really, it's just out of place here.
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>>150221640
Fujosiht win again.
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>>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Floppers

YAMETEEE
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>>150255889
They always do

Though im ok with it if yurishits get BTFO
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>>150221640
What should I look at in these numbers that makes sense? Why does utapri say 0 preorders but has 1000 points?
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>>150256007
0 reserved
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Poor Flip Floppers, it will flop harder than Phantom Sales.
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>>150255936
t.fujoshit
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>>150257382
Flippity flip FLOP
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>>150255145
>literally parroting buzzwords
Fucking kill yourself you faggot. I guarantee you havent read the manga
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When will this homosexuality fad die?
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>>150257808
When people stop buying fujo and yurishit
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>>150257808
Not any time soon
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>>150257586
>I guarantee you havent read the manga
Ok, kid.
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>>150255256
>Ugh.
Back to >>>/tumblr/.
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>>150257808
>>150257839
>>150257985
That would mean the end of anime industry.
It's already got 90% of its budget in fujo titles, since male otaku is out of the picture.
It's either teen boys, or fujo, but the latter shits out more money.
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>>150251596
'Cockona'
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So is YOI doing well?
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>>150258559
Please don't pretend to be an utter moron.
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>>150237273
Obviously. You can't even use the word properly.
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>>150258309
I wonder what happened to male otaku, do they spend their money on mobage now instead of anime?
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>>150258996
Maybe they got tired of generic copy paste moeshit shows?
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It should be noted that UtaPri wasn't put on Amazon until this week for some reason so its rank/points are likely skewed.
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>>150258996
if that's the case, maybe we might be seeing anime of said mobage in the near future (as further advertisement for the games)
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>>150259142
The opposite, they got tired of no high quality "moeshit" show being made.
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>>150259297
There's always some mobage and other types of video game adaptation coming out.
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>>150259332
About the same thing
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>>150257985
I haven't seen a white haired and black haired male this gay for each other since Evangelion
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>>150236147
Well, to be honest, the "otaku shows" this season are doing even worse than Girlish Number.
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>>150221640
>Vivid Strike this high
There goes any chance to go back to classic Nanoha, forget the epic magical battles and awesome characters. We'll be stuck in loli UFC forever now.
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>>150242578
The animation is very uneven, some of it has been good, some has been terrible, but the characters design is qt overall. Keep in mind that this is the first commercially viable show the studio produced so a lot if it will hopefully be cleaned up
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Would any of you actually buy the anime discs for the shows that are airing this season, or are you just content with watching them?

You can be honest with yourself and do not have to lie.
Because I do really like watching those shows. But I wouldn't buy the vast majority of them at all.
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>>150260050
I'm going to buy Girlish Number, but probably only first volume.
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>>150259678
There's really no difference if a show ranks below #1,000. The difference between selling 600 copies average and 100 copies average is still insignificant garbage compared to top 50/100.
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>>150259373
Um, not really, no.
Male otaku were all about those shows, until they got choppy enough not to care with zero production values and just no soul. Also when a very vocal minority, like lolicons get the cold shoulder so hard they did, it's also a big decrease in male otaku population.
Meanwhile fujoshit gets still high quality projects, and they're getting ever so more passion put into them.
Make no mistake, if they'll start getting as choppy as "moeshit" as of late, the same thing will happen there too.
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>>150260050
Would definitely buy Touken Ranbu's if my country actually allowed me to buy stuff online. The DVDs are only like $30 each.
There's other older series I still want too, I'll get them someday.
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>>150260050
>Would any of you actually buy
No.
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>>150260156
Yep the same thing after all
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>>150248848
>Kinmoza s2
>First volume sold 7k because of an event ticket
>Next volume saw a 2k drop
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>>150260293
Oh, you're just baiting.
Why the fuck did I even reply to you.
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>>150260344
I said that otaku got tired of copy paste shit
And then you made a post about how right i am
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>>150260156
>the same thing will happen there too
Yuri is already badly animated trash with no substance, the only thing that's reeling fujoshi in is the fanservice.
Here's hoping they get tired of this trash after a couple shows.
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>>150253623
YoI evidently
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>>150260455
This.
The level of fujo pandering in YOI really high
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>>150251962
>Izetta doing okay
>Fluctuates between 6k-10k in the rankings
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I remember when a lot of shows broke into double-digits, but it's like the 4th season in a row when most anime stays above 100.
Did stalker change their algorithms or did something actually happen to anime sales (impact of digital releases, maybe?)?
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there's an interesting PDF at comiket's site, here: http://www.comiket.co.jp/info-a/WhatIsEng201401.pdf

based on it, depending on whether or not the animation production company (or publisher, in case of manga) of your favorite series are selling stuff there, BD/DVD/manga/merch sales could improve, hopefully.
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>>150261200
Unless youre a idol show or a sports show aimed at women, all physical sales have been going down. This is presumably because of the transition to digital media, and Sports/Idol shows being trendy enough at the moment to overcome the sales drop.
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>>150242578
The show is really fun, you can tell there is a lot of reserach and soul prodaction team put into it. It's also refreshing to see adults as mcs and fujo pandering hovering over canon line.
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>>150261200
The industry was in a slump and is bouncing back. Consumer interest is on the upswing.

This is also the first season in a while that isn't more than 50% LN adaptations and doesn't have 5 Battleharems as its only draw.
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People acting like Otakushit is the natural state of the industry and not a phase in the decade helped by the fact that women were slow to transition to blu rays.
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>>150234598
I hope Keijo does well, would like to know if stalker accounts preorders for all of these venues: http://keijollllllll.com/bddvd/01.html

and hope that the physical stores (not accounted by stalker) also do well too
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>>150261405
Keijo is ecchi and aimed at men- it won't do well storefront. It also is somewhat likely to be overestimated by Stalker because of its male audience. Keijo is going to flop and they knew it when the production committee ordered the anime. It's an advertisment for the manga.
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>>150261530
at least if the manga gets more sales and popularity, it can continue being serialized and even get a second season.

Nozomi vs. Miyata rematch when
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>>150261530
>>150261641
Manga is flopping as well
Feels good man
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>>150260050
Fuck no, paying $120 for just 4 episodes is retarded.
I've only ever bought boxsets for old shows or discs when they are on a discount or special sale.
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It would be interesting to know how much influence Japanese streaming services like Abema TV, animetick, Gyao!, BandaiChannel, nicolive, niconico, anime unlimited and so on have gained for the anime production companies.
Bandai for example sells discs and has a streaming service at the same time.
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>>150261200
These are Stalker estimates remember. Stalker underestimates fujoshit 70-200%. Double the fujoshit and you'll see where the double digits are.
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>>150261964
Wouldn't matter much because anime is still niche. It probably only benefits the really popular anime and those have a million other sources of revenue that pay even better.
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>>150261830
the manga was at least considered worthy of an investment (anime adaptation), or attempt at improving the volume sales. Makes me wonder if the anime's reaching its intended public (the manga is serialized in a shonen magazine, but the anime airs late -- with few exceptions, here: http://keijollllllll.com/onair/ -- and the BDs/DVDs seem to be too expensive for most of the manga's public).

Do you know where I can find updated numbers for manga sales?
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>>150261404
The otaku bubble was always going to burst.
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>>150242578
I'm not even gay but I enjoy how gay it is somehow
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I've seen Flappers called the "the FLCL of this generation"

Is that accurate?
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>>150262410
I enjoy how much research the staff put into it. Everything from the skating to the costumes to the music to the Candian tire sponsers. Fujoshit and production chaos aside, I'm happy for MAPPA, they've put a lot of love into this show.
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>>150262489
People are only watching FF because they don't like fujoshit, not because its an above average show.
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>>150262489
Its the rolling girls of our year
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where's JoJo's?
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>**2,613位/**2,592位 (***,238 pt) [*,**1予約] 2017/01/06 Flip Flappers

more like flip FLOPers am I rite?
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>>150262584
As someone who likes fujoshit and also Flifla I can say this post is bullshit.
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>>150262584
This is some retarded reasoning right here.
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can we ban threads about anime with less than 2000pt?

it would make /a/ much much better
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>>150263246
if you like flipflappers you have shit taste and your opinion is wortheless
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>>150258176
You've got triggered just because 'Ugh'?
Just how retard are you, faggot?
And since when 'Ugh' has any relation with Dumbler?

Go fuck yourself.
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>all the ESL autism in this thread

Truly nothing good comes out of stalker threads.
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>>150263755
And you got triggered over someone telling you to go to tumblr.
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>>150263928
What are you talking about? Watching everyone get triggered when they realize their favorite chinese cartoon isn't selling well is endless amusement.
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>flop flopper
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150264228
I'm just here to laugh at Flip Floppers.
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>>150244618
>>150242911


I would buy it, one of the only two halfway decent anime (with Gi(a)rlish Number) this season
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>>150262489
Not at all.

it's still good, tho
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>>150263558

but shallow kids shit and loli-pedo-faggot shit is usually the most popular
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>>150223714
Is your show looking bad anon?
Let me guess, is it Flop Flop?
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Flopping flop floppers
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>>150264228
No one's actually really triggered over sales though. It's just a bunch of autists spamming pretending that people are.
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>>150264876
t. flop floppers fan
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>>150264447
You're one of very few people who would spend $300 to buy Fune wo Amu then.
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>>150265049

my hobby is cheap compared to some of the ones of my friends, e.g. dumping thousands of dollars into modding their car or buying and modding competition firearms
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What's the best way to go around buying BDs from jap amazon?
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which is the biggest fujobait show if i have already seen free and knb ?
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>>150265940
You need a Japanese address if you want to be counted in these numbers.
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>>150266061
YOI is far gayer than both of them
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>>150266061
Right now swords is the biggest fujo franchise in japan.
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>>150266148

yeah i'm watchning, perhaps i should have said sports fujobait that isn't haikyuu because it has an ugly mc
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>>150264828
All shows are doing bad, disc sales don't matter anymore.
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>>150266129
Well, Amazon(or any other store that has the BDs) don't send it directly to my country, so I'll have to do it through jap intermediary anyway
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>>150266360
This is the best sales season in a year. There are 5 potentional 10k+.
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BORN TO MAKE HISTORY
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>>150261404

It's not even a question that /a/ thinks this is the case too because the whole boom had lasted from about late 2006-mid 2014..

The industry went way too full bore into this whole late night light novel boom thing post Haruhi and now only a handful of them still sell at all anymore, mainly stuff that their fanboys have been watching since the earliest parts of the decade most of which is just milked hard and advertised constantly by Aniplex to ever diminishing returns.

Now that that layer of buyers is bottoming out as a whole and moving on with it's life the industry is buried too deep into it and doesn't seem to know how to do much of anything else anymore for older audiences so we've just been getting seasons of trash that doesn't sell or leave any sort of impression for the least few years. It's like the industry doesn't seem to realize that the whole late night light novel and eroge adaptation business model isn't going to work for a second generation of fans because the conditions that allowed for it to explode in the first place are no longer there in the modern era.
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>Flip Floppers
Not even mad, I cant defend the show anymore after the utter lack of plot and an entire episode devoted to irrelevant characters and muh alzheimers.
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>>150261346

I'm not holding my breath just yet. I've kept thinking surely the industry is going to pull out of it's bullshit mass production models for like 10 seasons in a row going back to some time in 2014 because as we've seen it's just kind of unsustainable and now I've just kind of given up though a few OVA and Movie projects have at least piqued my interest.
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>>150260156

That's actually kind of a good point
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>>150267487
The industry has just found out that China is paying big bucks for lots of anime. It's now important to try to milk this new oil well dry by spam-producing even more anime shows and auction the licensing rights there between the competing streaming services.
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>>150259235

King Records stuff seems to be really late to go up lately. Nanoha Vivid took like a year to go up and Vivid Strike didn't show up for a while after. It just seems like it's not a priority for them being a music company and all. Their PR is in the tank with otaku again too now after the whole buy lots of CD's to see Putty Face Minase in concert oh wait she's not doing it because of a threat FOOLED YOU thing.
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>>150254220
Speak for yourself /u/fag
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>>150267715

They're going to fail miserably somehow by failing to identify the kinds of shows China likes and for what reason I'm sure of it. Japan has this real arrogance about it late where they think they know what fans of a given media sector like but consistently prove they don't at all in the long run.
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>>150267812
For now, it's the Chinese streaming service providers themselves who are just interested in buying everything they can to gain the largest market share by having a monopoly.
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Hahahah, hetfags BTFO!
Now you can look forward to more gay anime.
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>>150251962
>Izetta is doing okay
nice delusion
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>>150269357

There is a case of the industry recognizing that it has a new demographic to play off of for sure though right now it still mainly looks like it's just trying to apply the tactics it used on male NEET otaku to apply to fujoshi now instead. I'm hardly convinced the industry is getting back on track from the whole post light novel boom thing. While 2017 has the most stuff that doesn't strike me as immediately horrible ideas (most of it only announced within the last month or so and most of it OVA or Movie project type stuff) that will result in more soulless terrible characters, bad production an bad storytelling there's still a lot of obvious mobage money making schemes coming out and still a lot of the same old kind of trash. Whether that's just because it was already in the pipeline before the cracks in the mass production business model started showing itself or the industry really does plan to continue to stay it's course despite all indicators showing it might want to make more plans to diversify from the whole milk the male waifu otaku business model sooner rather than later remains to be seen.

One thing I'm sure of is the industry cannot survive if it's ever going to have another season like that one with those Asterisk and Rakudai shows airing on the same day within hours of one other and having much the exact same opening episodes, plot and premise. Like you might as well be throwing it in front of people's noses just how little a shit you give.
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>>150266565
It has nothing to do with quality of shows
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>>150267382
Since when nips are buying discs for story?
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>>150269701
Aniplex-fag, use more punctuation and more effective line-breaks.
Also, try to make shorter sentences.
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>>150269886
They technically buy discs for collection purposes, and the only discs that are normally bought as such do have a good engaging story, good sound quality, viewable bonus content in form of little extra OVA chapters, and also bonus merchandise.

At least, that is the idea.
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>>150267294
What are those conditions?
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>>150270095
That is a question that people in a few years will be able to answer better than us thanks to the power of hindsight.
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>>150269701
They announced CG S3. Thats how you know the industry is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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>>150270422
It's not really confirmed to be a third season, just an anime project that will take place after the second season. Might be a movie, might be a TV anime series.

But to be honest, I fully do believe that it is a TV anime series too.
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>>150270095
My guess: the anime bubble burst and blu ray trasition began. Male otaku were the first ones to jump back on the train and were overrepresented in sales data which lead to studios dedicating a disproportionate amount of shows to them. Who knows though- this is mostly a bullshit guess.
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>>150254647
Not with things like Oreimo, Sword Art Online, and Asterisk War existing
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>>150259297
>Granblue Fantasy will have a KanColle anime flavored turd in our lifetime

Fujos deserve to win the war if that happens.
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>>150270556
*transition. Im just saying that theres a reason it's pointless to compare sales for shows pre-2005 and now. Women still buy many more DVDs than men- some shows aimed at women still don't get blu ray releases.
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>>150270095

Just that like when any paradigm shift happens in an industry some of the stuff light novels were doing in late 2000's hadn't yet become commonplace and kind of spoke to the youth at the time with their characters and premises in ways that surprised them, even me at times with some but not all of the big hit late night otaku things. The industry was also really applying it's time, efforts and budget to some of them enough to make a number of them actually enjoyable and exciting to watch.

Lately the industry has just kind of been blatantly coasting though and acting like if they just do these adaptations with the right names and have cute/hawt moe moe girls with stock popular personalities and bland male leads with none at all fast talking at each other for episodes on end and make sure to throw event tickets and benefits in there nothing else matters. The problem is when every show starts to have the same kind of cast make up with the same kinds of popular names on staff/cast all honing in on the same niche sector it's no wonder the bottom eventually falls out and people just kind of gravitate towards towards one or two already established ones.

It also doesn't help that a lot of the better talent in the industry has moved on to mainly working in movies or even live action because the late night TV wing of it has gotten onto what I keep calling the mass production model of giving adaptation projects and commercials to only the cheapest start up studios to do in 12 episode chunks which half the time they can't even manage without severe production troubles due to gross incompetence. Basically the late night TV anime that most of /a/ and the Western fandom is now convinced is the status quo and "normal" for what anime is the absolute dregs of the industries production pipeline. The worst of the worst where interested parties stick their cheap commercials for their products aimed at degenerates that only care about the latest waifus and hype.
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>>150261530
I thought it was because Keijo was unmemorable girl designs + meme shit (not even flavor of the month, I mean designated ironic circlejerk like Inferno Cop and Kill Me Baby pre Agiri's VA drug scandal). Like the girls are more boring looking than Bento and the show is quasi ironic without really going anywhere.
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>>150270422

On the contrary, if anything it's a slight sign that the industry wants more than just bland high school romance shit which yes Code Geass did have a bit of but was hardly a major focus. It's no more of a sign that the industry is scraping the bottom of the barrel than it cranking out yet another Fate thing.
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>>150270949
Ecchi doesn't sell blu rays. Hell, sports anime without a majority female fanbase don't sell blu rays. Keijo didn't stand a chance.
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>>150270928
Don't forget the discovery of late night anime, which was believed to be only for men, which is obviously not true anymore.
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>>150270726

The high peak and boom for average BD sales for late night TV anime (the only time physical media ever sold in numbers worth taking into account in the nearly 60 years of anime being a thing) was clearly in the 2006-2011 or so range of years. Nowadays only idol and fujoshi stuff really sells in statistically significant numbers anymore, the former due to event tickets and exclusive music CD's which are sought after by fans and the latter due to having a purchasing layer that has yet to be thoroughly milked to death by the industry and shit on with constant crap low budget television. Give it a couple years of glut and exploitation and the fujo targeted stuff will likely end up in the same place as the average late night male otaku bait series finds itself now. IMO you're already starting to see some early signs of it struggling with all the increased competition honing in on the same niche though we'll need actual hard sales data over the next year to see for sure since Stalker is absolute ass at tracking fujoshi stuff with it's model due to it's failure to accurately account for anything non-Amazon and Blu-Ray.
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>>150270928
>The industry was also really applying it's time, efforts and budget to some of them enough to make a number of them actually enjoyable and exciting to watch.
So basically same as today?
Some shows have high production values, while most are just cheap and bad.
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>>150271257
The hope is that a balance is made eventually and the industry doesn't count on one group to carry the financial burden of a season.
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>>150270000
Yeah, Infinite stratos clearly had all this
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>>150271880
That means also marketing anime towards the so-called normalfag audience.
But what do Japanese normalfags really watch except prime time anime for families, if they watch anime at all?
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>>150270667
>Fujos deserve to win the war
Only retarded /v/ermins believe such war exist.
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>>150270667
What do you mean? Granblue already has anime in the works.
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>>150272192
Do you expect /v/tard to know anything?
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>>150271998

They don't really, anime has a tremendous stigma among the mainstream that has only gotten worse over time with the fanbases awful behavior and militant attitudes. Your Name might soften it's image a bit but unless there's more mainstream hits like that again it'll never last .
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>>150271017
That's odd, cause I'd say ecchi does sell blu-rays. If Keijo had actual topless nudity or if it had a male MC who was the love interest of many of the girls then it'd be selling much better than it is currently.
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>>150271257
Looking at Winter 2017, it really doesn't seem like theres too much for Fujos. At least not oversaturating the market. Theres only one sports show and one male idol show. (Which makes you wonder what's going to sell.)
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>>150272305
There was actually a time around the early 2000's when the industry was still making some of those experimental and general audiences leaning anime that were getting popular on Toonami and Spirited Away had taken an Oscar when their was genuine optimism for anime becoming more mainstream, accepted and softening it's whole weird perverted shit for social rejects image that it had held since the 80s when stuff like M.D Geist and Urotsukidoji being pushed hardest in the West. I'd say the last decade of bargain bin light novel shit and waifus being the face of anime that the likes of Crunchyroll and twitter fags bleating on about said waifus have helped to promote has more than erased the legacy of that era
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>>150272315
True. The rule for ecchi is generally that you need nipples to sell. That said its on a decline; not even DxD is making much anymore.
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>>150251596
>>150251596
yo shut up
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>>150271301

Except with a lot more pretense that the latter is still somehow good anyway and being able to sell the crap with event tickets and benefits campaigns at least up until very recently. I really can't see the whole event ticket thing no longer being able to bloat sales like it did historically as a bad thing unless it just leads to more doubling down on the one area where it's still mostly guaranteed to work with idol shows. Somehow I see this happening thought as I think the modern industry is just that lazy and cares that little about anime as a story telling medium.
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>>150272747
Love Live is going to have 5/7 ticket volumes. Truly a cancer on the industry.
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>>150251596

It's too bad that the fanbase is so full of baiting shitposters and memesters that it's literally impossible to tell what the deal with this show is or get a vibe on it without actually watching
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>>150272822
Ignore love live. That one is only interesting for Idolfans, and not all anime otaku, male or female, are idolfans.

It doing well or bad would have no influence on the quality of other anime shows of different genres.
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>>150253511
>story writing 101

Flip Floppers could use some of that.
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>>150221646
>**1,561位/**1,523位 (***,336 pt) [*,*15予約] 2016/12/23 Ping Pong girls
>**1,593位/**1,580位 (***,546 pt) [*,**1予約] 2016/12/21 Girlish Number
This doesn't surprise me. Both shows went to shit a long time ago.
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>>150272540
I do think that a demographic thats looking to buy two 20k+ avg anime this season deserves a bit more pandering than two anime. But the industry is too busy trying to scrape the bottom of the Otaku barrel that can't get much higher than 10k anymore.
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>>150272822

The problem with Love Live isn't Love Live itself but that it showed the industry a get of jail free card business model on production based around selling physical media. The show actually does have solid production values for the most part, but you can just as easily have a show that is largely low effort stills like UtaPri, B-Project etc. and still sell moderately well with event ticket schemes. Event tickets were literally the fucking worst thing to happen to late night anime because they allowed the industry a way to cheap out hard and still be able to move discs because now they're selling events and music, not actual TV shows though it might look that way. I will have no problem whatsoever if the bottom suddenly falls out on the whole concert event ticket model too, but I'm not seeing it happen, totally different audience from traditional anime fans for starters, think something more like the kind of people that buy 100's of AKB48 CD's to vote for their favorite idols as opposed to anime fans that would watch something like say Your Name or Gundam The Origin.
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>>150273201
Surely the industry would love to pander to them too, but if the projects meant to be for them aren't ready, then they're simply just not ready.
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>>150273374
Will the popularity of idols ever die in Japan? Why are Elevens so obsessed with pretty male and female whores that pretend they know how to sign and pretend they know how to act?
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>>150273201

I still don't get it either. I honestly thought we were going to be done with that shit by 2015 the way things were obviously trending but nope still largely going with that model because ????

It's like the industry and source material holders is just completely incapable of not letting the music companies like Aniplex, Lantis and Kadokawa lead the way with late night anime and just being utterly complacent as they bungle project after project, particularly the former two. I mean I get that they still thoroughly dominate BD/DVD/CD sales in the average season for what it's still worth but not to the overwhelming degree they were even a few years ago. If anything lately it's Toho that's the producer coming on strong with fresh hit after hit while aside from the established stuff Aniplex and Lantis are plowing a trail to the bottom of the barrel both sales and show quality wise with all their commercialized crap.
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>>150273528
There be pop-idols everywhere, matey.
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>>150273528

Cultural malaise and escapism really. I mean it's even more pathetic in their music industry where for most of the decade the top 10 lists of music sales have been dominated by the 48 idol groups all produced and 100% controlled by one creeper asshole Yasuhi Akimoto who much of the mainstream population despises for essentially ruining music and exploiting and dominating teenage girls during what should be their formative years. It's all a bunch of hollow empty promises for the sake of lining old men producers pockets and IMO the reason anime has started going downhill is it's starting to imitate the business model he popularized with handshake and special voting tickets to try to get fanboy whales to buy multiple copies of the same disc. That's the only reason you see such inflated sales for idol anime discs sometimes, it's like maybe a few hundred buying dozens of the same disc and then they end up on the resale market a few months later because all they ever really wanted were the tickets, they don't give a shit about the anime itself or having a permanent physical copy of it on disc. That's the grand irony of modern anime, the people that support the still largely physical media focused industry the most nowadays don't give a solitary shit about the majority of shows themselves or what happens in them and I don't know of any other medium where this is the case.
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>>150225157
>tfw liked both
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>>150273907

Basically

>Western anime fans->Shitposting/hype
>Japanese anime fans->Event tickets/moe
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>>150221640

I've been on /a/ 11 years and I still don't know how to read these.

Is up good, or down?
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>>150274360
>I've been on /a/ 11 years
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>>150221640
is there a guide to dechiper the all the columns on these lists?

Fune wo amu being this low, it hurts
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>>150273699
I guess it gives fujos more money to spend on the YoI merch wars. (How the fuck does a pre order OST CD sell out in a day? Honestly MAPPA needs to pull themselves together.)
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>>150274360
If you're at the bottom, its bad news.
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>>150274541
Divied by π, add 25% of the original value, multiply by 250, then take a square root.
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