What' the better power: Mind control or time stop?

Depends on the duration and range of the time stop and mind control, if there are no limitations then time stop.

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>>150091802
Time Stop.

>>150091822
>Depends on the duration and range of the time stop and mind control
yeah specifications are key here

>>150092086
is this a jojo reference?

>>150091802
Mind control because it's subtle and no one could prove it. Time stop is something that could actually be observed or detected and might get you captured at some point if the government really wanted to.

Za Warudo

>>150091802
Mind control makes you literally able to conquier the world.
Time stop allows you to beat up people 1 on 1 and maybe steal things that aren't locked up?

>>150092156
Mind control is so much better it's not even funny. For sexual purposes, for business and or school, for sexual purposes, for betting, for sexual purposes, for daily life.

>>150091802
Why not both?

>>150091802
Do i age during time stop.
This is very important.

>>150091802
mind control

i can zap some bitch to loving me with all her heart

time stop just making me fuck a statue

>>150092189
You're underestimating time stop.

>>150092153
Mind Control is subtle if
1. You only need to establish domination, but not maintain it
2. Its not verbal
3. Target follows orders after moving outside of range
4. Degree of dominance varies. I.E From making target follow influences, to total domination

It has severe limitations if any of the above is true.

>>150092506
Please tell me what applications it could have other than beating up/raping someone, stealing whatever's not locked up or cheating in an exam. I frankly don't see much more.
It only worked for DIO because he also had a superpowered spirit to do stuff in stopped time.

>>150092506
Time Stop is in many ways worse than Acceleration.
I.E The Flash, Quicksilver, etc

I would choose timestop purely just so that I can sleep in more.

>>150092144
is this a shitty meme ?

>>150092610
You could just mind control people to not care if you sleep in, you know.

>>150091802
Just time stop or time manipulation?
Time stop has it uses, but time manipulation is more versatile.

>>150092642
Yeah, I guess so, but timestop seems like less of a bother than mindcontrolling an entire company.

>>150091802
doesn't matter, I have both

>>150091802

I prefer Time Stop because you can pull pranks on people or other useful stuff.

>>150091802
>>150092506
Depends on how the time stop works.

Every other person freezes, that's a given, but how do inanimate objects behave? Would your computer still work if you stopped time?

>>150091802
Mind control makes you the king of the earth
Time stop make you a more than human

>>150091802
Do your heart stop beat with the time stop?

>>150092719
That's not how you do mind control.
>pick a company with most fuckable president's daughter
>mind control HR to join sales
>become best salesman ever
>rush through management to the top
> (optional) mind control president's daughter

>>150092759
Why would it stop?

>>150092748
If your computers still works, Internet wouldn't

>>150091802
Time Stop no question.
If someone shoots you before you can mind control them, you're dead.
If someone shoots you, Time Stop, move the bullet to behind the shooter's knee, find where he lives via his wallet and then resume time and watch him become crippled. Tell him you're going to rape his family and then do so because Time Stop.
Then as he gets home he is instantly mulched by knives thrown in stopped time just as he sees his family lying dead and cum covered.
That's what time stop is, the power to rule over anyone's life.

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>>150092854
If you had mind control,he wouldn't shoot you in the first place

>>150092839
If your computer works that means it's receiving electricity, which means a whole lot of infrastructure is still running. Security cameras could be active as well.
It doesn't make much sense unless everything is completely frozen.

>>150092495
Fucking this. Why would you want to fuck a deadfish when you can make someone lust over you.

>>150092906
Then you don't stop time, you just pause people

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>>150091802
Power to beat the cock

Depends on the limits obviously, it's too vague.
How long can you stop time for?
How can you interact with your environment?
How long does mind control last?
Is there a maximum number of people you can control?

>>150092759
I am still sad

>>150092854
My sides you're a fucking psycho, we could be friend

>>150092854
this

>>150092906
So the air would be frozen too and you couldn't move?

If time stop allowed you to interact with people you could defeat an entire building in a split second.
Mind control might be fun but its not as impressive.

>>150093021
>you could defeat an entire building
I know what you meant, but this is fucking hilarious.

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Mind control is way better. Time stop, despite being cool in action manga, doesn't really have a lot of practical applications in real life. This is especially true if you're going for the rape route. Time stop just lets you fuck inanimate girls. With mind control, the girls can actually react, you can do all sorts of fetish play, make a harem, etc. I just don't see any reason to pick time stop.

>>150093064
>stops time
>punches building
>breaks hand
truly the power to rule the world

>>150093064
Depending on how physics would interact you could also punch somebody and hit like a wrecking ball
mostly because slowing time would cause you to act like a really fast object

>>150093008
Only whatever's close to you gets to move, a la DIO's World. He moves around in his clothes and throws knives but they stop like 5 meters after being thrown

>>150093008
Light would also be frozen and after absorbing it it wouldnt be replenished so you cant see something from the same point you viewed it before

>>150092854
You would need some insane reflexes in order to activate the timestop before the fired bullet hits you.

>>150091802
Mind Control is the absolute worst rape of your fellow human beings. Because you make them think that whatever happens is what they wanted.
It's the absolute worst supernatural power in every situation.

What happens if you mind control yourself

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>>150091802
Surprised nobody posted this superhero

>pseudo-immortality
>practically own everything on earth
>can learn anything and everything instantly
>can spend an infinite amount of time studying to find cures, immortality, time travel, etc.
Mind control isn't even in the same league.

>>150093118
It would actually be even more broken, lets rule out some "oh shit everything is energy!" and "suddenly its an infinite black hole"
You would act as if you were really really fast, according to the universal laws but you don't possess the energy to move fast, which means you literally create energy.
With some accidental end-of-the-universe scenarios, you could punch anything in slowed time and hit like a bunker buster.
If it was realistic though you'd just destroy the universe because infinite/total stop = infinite speed = infinite energy = infinite matter

Having direct influence on another person's mind is a very powerful tool. A lot of conflict can be avoided by simply MCing your opponents, on or off the battlefield. A major issue would be if that's the morally correct decision, though, and I wouldn't trust another person with the same power to do good.

>>150093247
>pseudo-immortality
>implying you wouldn't keep aging and only cause your life to end much sooner

>>150093268
I feel like MC would be a bit of a cheat power, too boring.

>>150093287
Only use it in the most dire of circumstances, like a crutch

>>150092854
Why would someone be shooting you in the first place? Do you have the reflexes to stop time before the bullet hits you? What if they caught you unaware and shot you without revealing themselves?

>>150093247
Only if you're not aging while time is frozen and if, as pointed out multiple times in this thread, you can actually interact with certain things.

Under ideal circumstances time stop really is superior though.

It really depends on the minutiae of the powers. Like does mind control work like Lulu's Geass where it requires line of sight and hearing, but only works once? Is it like Jesse's Voice from Preacher where it's absolute, but it does require having to be heard (and thus won't work on deaf people? Does it wear off? Does it last only until a command is executed? Does it override any free will or personality traits? What sort of trauma can come to people affected by it if it clashes with their free will or personality?
Too much to consider without trivial specifics.

probably time stop because if you can literally control people's souls they stop being human beings and become more like dollsyou can program.

unless you can only do temporary mind control for a certain period of time.

but if you could like instantly change poeple's minds or beliefs about things or make people fall in love with you or behave differently then it would be boring and detached.

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>>150093196
You become an anime hero

>>150093250
tl;dr you become saitama without the durability, just don't create too much energy.

>>150093331
I imagine Mind Control to be more akin to puppeteering than just nudging someone's thoughts into a direction you view as favorable

>>150093353
This. How do you stop yourself from abusing mind control? Shit would require insane mental strength.

Time stop is cool AND situational enough.

>>150093353
then don't use MC for that
only use MC when serious conflict is inevitable

>>150093409
Depending on time stop specifics you could basically charge punches like some vidya character.

>>150093417
You'd get addicted to it though, unless you have a will of steel. Not for everyone.

>>150093409
Though it depends on the person, I'd imagine that most people would abuse it and (possibly) eventually grow bored of controlling every facet of their life. This won't happen if they're using it to escape death or punishment

>>150093480
Well MC implies quite strong mental control, since it's a psychic thing. Willpower is a given

>>150093520
not necessarily, we're dealing with fake super powers so we can easily say that some snobby low IQ dipshit was magically granted with MC.

>>150093520
If you could become wise and strong enough, then sure, MC sounds like a good deal. You'd be fit to use it for personal purposes AND to do good to the world, which means a win:win for everyone.

But if an anon got MC, it'd be pretty disastrous.

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>>150091802
>>150092218

>>150092536
You're not a very creative person are you?

>>150093556
>>150093584
superb points
it really all depends on the person who posses the power and if they have a good moral compass

>>150093627
I forgot pranks and magics. Maybe becoming good at boxing or something?
That's pretty much it.

>>150092854
I think this one takes the trophy.

>>150092854
>>150093315
I came to tell you the same as this anon. Why would somebody try to shoot you? Do you live in a warzone? Just don't get into trouble. At least you can control a bodyguard that jumps without fail infront of bullets.

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>>150093250
Good exemple of why knowledges of how physics works can ruin a lot of fiction enjoyment.
I bet that you everytime have to tell yourself that it's just fiction to not be annoyed by the stupid shit they pull out with powers.
At least that's what I have to do

>>150093673
A universal power like Time Stop would be much more powerful when used right.

>>150093626
KANE LIVES!!!

How would you earn money legitimately without being traced back to you with time stop? Besides corporate espionage (which isn't really legit), there isn't really much compared to mind control

>>150091802
There was a power thread once upon a time and the best ability ever was decided to have been a) telekenisis b)intangelbility and c) time

Basically intangability is the best.Time shitters can blow me. Time is easy to work around once you know it's happening. The only way you can't work around it when there's some KC shit going on.

>>150093957
Kill anybody trying to get you, steal cash

>>150093912
How would you use it then?

>>150094041
And the cash earned is either so small thus negligible or you have undocumented cash and leave a trail. No more civilised life in the latter.

>>150093957
>money
Once a wagecuck always a wagecuck. Funny isn't it.
What you would do is be a free man who doe whatever he wants. Go pick some esoteric goal for your life. One man can change the world. One man with SUPER powers can do as he pleases.
Steal plates of food in resteraunts to eat. Snap into facilities as they close to sleep and shower. Steal clothes as required.

There would be evidence of tampering but honestly so to would there be with mind control if you know enough about neurology and so on. The trick with BOTH is that no one will accept that as a rational outcome so they will hypothesise crazy solutions to explain even the most trivial use of your power. Who would arrest you for stealing while time was frozen? Even if the case was air tight the courts might laugh. Even if the judge thought it was fine, imagine the presses reaction.

You would be bullet proof.

>>150094102
You could sleep out in time stop and do whatever you want during the day anyway, not sure if you would even burn calories in time stop

>>150093357
>"Are you my master?"

>>150094295
>What you would do is be a free man who doe whatever he wants
That's the reason you don't have a job, anon. You're entitled and lazy. The shit you'd steal doesn't craft itself.

>>150094405
I guess he was right.

>>150094405
I could try to become famous by pretending that i'm Hit and i can time-skip box people to death

>>150094462
>you le wagecuck haha:p
>>>/reddit/

>>150094095
put a tack on someone's chair just before they sit down and appear innocent

>>150094405
And? There is an over abundance of prodduct in a consumeristic world, further, if you're being withdrawn based on moral good there are always allowances made to recoup losses of certain magnitudes. The point is, why be a petty piece of shit and try your hand at corporate espionage? Is that any less disgusting as an act? You're still taking credit for others work and reducing their livlihoods for the sake of your own. The difference is in this other life you accept that you'd be doing something like that. Instead of devoting yourself to the desire for money (product) you give yourself something to actually DO with those powers. Some people grind in corporations all their lives. Others take a risk and start corporations. Others take an even bigger risk and look outside the world of financial gain to political gain and ideological fullfilment.
You're a pety loser if the only change in your life is how to scam people better at work.

Assuming the powerlevels to be fair (eg. not comparing freezing time for 15 seconds between 2 and 3 am every other monday vs dominate will), time stop. The upper limit is just so much higher.

>>150091802
It really depends on their limits
Without loopholes and people breaking free of your control, mindcontrol would be my choice

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>>150093199
My idol honestly

>>150094496
I'm won't criticize your beliefs but don't force them on others.

>>150094496
Your grand fantasy for yourself and the world is to make more money in a middle-low stakes job. To be a charlaten at best and an agregious white collar crim at worst.
That's pathetic.

Think about it. Given a gift no one else has ever had or will ever have again. A first and last for humanity. A truly exraordinary existance; and you use it on being a worker.
Please think about your direction in life. Are you so brow beaten that even in your anonymous fantasies you're still just a pencil pusher?

>>150094577
How so? That doesn't seem right. You can do more with mind control on a global sense. To do anything even similar in scale would require years in the stop. Further, in a one to one fight the mind control would win the instant time resets. If he isn't aleady dead he'd just implant you with a demand to refreeze time and remove all threats from his person. Once that's done and time continues you're just another lackey to the might mind melding mutie

>>150094568
I wasn't criticizing the "stealing one or two things" part, which would have pretty much 0 consequences assuming you're the only one who has timestop and thus isn't really wrong (it'd be another story if everyone could do that). Corporate spying would be worse, definitely. I don't see what you'd be trying to achieve outside of the corporate/political/ideological worlds with TIMESTOP though. It's easy to talk about being a special snowflake but what would you actually do? Pretty much nothing.

>>150094670
>Your grand fantasy for yourself and the world is to make more money in a middle-low stakes job. To be a charlaten at best and an agregious white collar crim at worst.
Because every worker is corrupted or hates his job/does low-level work? You can like your job and grow because of it. It's similar to a passion, most of the time. If you do something you don't like, it's unfortunate.
Also I'm not the original poster, but I see why he'd think of work even with timestop. You can talk about liberating yourself from the mainstream world and 9/16 5/7 routine but in the end outside of traveling and trying to learn new things or passions, there's not so much outside of work/relationships. Timestop wouldn't expand those horizons very much.

Time stop is nice and all, but with mind control, you could get any anime adaptation you wanted.

>>150094935
damn...

>>150094095
Rise to power can come from many ways

Money
Influence
Friends
etc

Getting money would be easy with time stop, influence can be gotten via heroic deeds/heroic feats, friends in high places can be gotten with use of money

Within few years, being in the position of power to rule the earth can be achieved with right maneuvering

>>150094935
Hadn't considered that

>>150094932
>but in the end outside of traveling and trying to learn new things or passions, there's not so much outside of work/relationships.

Woah, sorry man.

>>150094979
>Getting money would be easy with time stop
Outside of stealing I don't see how. There's no real legitimate way to get more money while time is stopped and if you're trying to use the money you've stolen to get friends in high places someone's going to notice you shouldn't have that much money

>>150095004
Man, that's a tough choice...

>>150095056
What would you suggest then smugman?

>>150094979
Why would you want to rule the earth?

>>150091802
If I want to be cool and shit, time stop. Just imagine that time is under your control. You have the power to control one aspect that nobody can. You can literally do anything you want if you're smart enough.

But if I want the easy way to power and control, it's mind control. Controlling everyone's mind to get anything you want while still be the most lazy ass shit you will ever be.

It's literally a choice between controlling your own life or controlling the life of others.

The best part of getting one of these superpowers is testing their limits and how they work next to maliciously abusing them
>see how fire feels in your version of time stop
>see if you can hang from a ball thrown into the air
>see if someone completes their task via MC even if it causes damage to their bodies
It'd be like christmas morning

>>150095004
4

>>150094935
/thread
if what you want is a product, mind control does it better

>Mind control
>Can mind break hot girls

>Time stop
>Can't mind break hot girls

Easy choice.

timestop
raid emma watson's panty drawer

>>150095173
>see if you can hang from a ball thrown into the air
It would make no sense for this to work and you to be able to still walk around as normal

>>150094932
>It's easy to talk about being a special snowflake
That's just it. It's not a special snow flake. I dislike the concept that only certain individuals have influence. It's categorically wrong. Society is effectively a crach course in emergent behaviour. It's the rules of the individual that shape the group more than it is group mandates. If you wanted to be a snow flake you could. Right now you could endeavour to make change. Two things stop you: a lack of purpose and or a lack of security. With powers your security is maintained. You will never be weak or without. All that is left then is finding a purpose.

>there's not much outside of work
Man. I could say some things but think of it this way:
You're given a hypothetical. In it you are gifted with a space ship capable of intersteller flight and with it a consistent supply of energy to fuel it from a earth based port. If your answer is, how much time does this take off my commute in the morning it's time to kill yourself

>>150092189
>Im-fucking-plying time stop wouldn't give you the best chance at wrestlemania

>>150095004
1. Always 1.
The other options are just playing with a doll.

>>150095004
>not a progression between them
False dillema

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>>150095004
Easy choice, number 1

Let's put up a scenario for each with little limitations
Time Stop
>You can alter the nature of the time stop, is it slowing down, are you exempt from physical laws to some extent (i.e how realistic/how separated from normal existence are you) and how slow is the time stop?
>Can be used anywhere, any time, activates the instant you think it will do (if somebody shoots, it stops right when the bullet exits the gun and etcetera)
>can stop affecting certain people if you want it to
Mind Control
>Complete and total control over how the mind control works, do you control their motor functions, their psyche, etc...
>Can't break free on their own will
>Can control more then one person
>Can control anybody, anywhere, as long as you know where they are (you could make hillary shit herself if she's live)
What do you pick?

>>150094935
Anime adaptation IN REAL LIFE.
Meaning: Harems, developing real life mechas, high budget adaptations, cosplay sluts, etc.

>>150095349
>4 options
>dilemma
Back to skool with u, boi

>>150095091
Gambling is another. However you may be banned if you win too much. Next is betting. Another is fraudulent activities like buying and selling shit.

Most effective would probably be using timestop to influence events while betting on stocks. Ex. Put stocks on AMD, sabotage nvidia/intel fabs.

>>150095107
Some people wants to free themselves from the restriction of life. The closest people get to that is by being a world leader.

>>150095263
>the condensed sensation of his fuck isn't enough to break women
>clearly just planning to rewrite bodies
How DARE you talk about mind break.

>use time stop
>i'm frozen in time
>even my thoughts are frozen
>can't unfreeze time
>the universe is frozen in time forever
>no second season of darker than black because I thought stopping time was a good idea

I'll go with mind control.

Invisibility is the superior mind break power.

>>150095004
Easily 1.
But with mind control you can still make 1 act like any of the others, and then revert back whenever you want.

>>150095407
On top of that, betting on the misfortunes of others with either timestop/mindcontrol abilities can get you rich quickly

>>150095274
>It's the rules of the individual that shape the group more than it is group mandates.
Ok.
>If you wanted to be a snow flake you could. Right now you could endeavour to make change. Two things stop you: a lack of purpose and or a lack of security. With powers your security is maintained. You will never be weak or without. All that is left then is finding a purpose.
So, influencing people's behavior? So, one of the political/ideological purposes you excluded in your first post.

>You're given a hypothetical. In it you are gifted with a space ship capable of intersteller flight and with it a consistent supply of energy to fuel it from a earth based port. If your answer is, how much time does this take off my commute in the morning it's time to kill yourself
That's not a great equivalency. The spaceship gives you lots of new questions (how does it work, what new world will we discover with it) that come before the "how much time in the morning do I need to charge it".
The timestop is pretty straight forward. You stop time with some supernatural power that activates when you .. think about it I guess? For an arbitrary length of time. You can easily imagine what things you can do with it ( like become the best at sports, make pranks). The only questions come in situations like these >>150095173 but it requires imagination.

>>150095393
False choice sounds retarded and dichotomies are literally dualistic in nature. Dilema should be sufficient for the point I was trying to make. Eat me.

>Mind control
>Can literally get rich in little to no time
>Can literally fuck whoever you want in the ass or pussy
>Can literally get whatever product you want in the world
>Can literally become the leader of the world

Sounds good to me.

>>150095407
>Most effective would probably be using timestop to influence events while betting on stocks.
People have actually gotten in trouble for doing shit like this and someone is going to notice if Joe Shmoe gets rich suddenly because everytime he puts stock in something all the competition is mysteriously sabotaged. Not sure what you mean for betting, unless you're similarly affecting the outcome since it's stopping time not going back to change your bet when you see the results. You could gamble by stopping time and looking at other people's cards and sitting back down, but will also get suspicious very fast.

>>150095485
It's still spelled dilemma. Go read a book.

>>150095365
Mind control would be the funniest. HAPPENINGS everyday. Although it's be kinda hard to pull if people stop going live after the first events.
Can I just iterates through places where the person could be, and if I get it right it works?

>>150095537
Probably.

>>150093948
This man is Yuri you megapleb

>>150095478
>before the "how much time in the morning do I need to charge it".
That is not what I said. I said how much time it takes of your commute. This isn't about logically exploring the concept, more about drawing attention to the fact that analysis of the concept is drawn explicitly relative to work in both contexts when the factor introduced is entirely seperate from that domain.
For example after being given a helicopter with a life time garantee on maintainance and up keep your initial reaction is that there's no way to park it at the office.
It's a fucking hellicopter with no strings attached. It shouldn't be thought of as an extension to your productivity. If it is, you're in WAY too deep. You don't need to want to help fight bush fires with it or anything but at least a reaction along the lines of "I'd fly all over the place on the weekends" is more healthy than worrying about how it immediately relates to your income.

Mind control would be too immoral for me to use.

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>>150095684
>It's a fucking hellicopter with no strings attached.
To be fair I probably wouldn't think of much to do with this either because I don't like traveling much anymore, probably sell it and call it a day.

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>>150095004

1 and 4 are the best choices, in 1 she still has her personality left if you like forced stuff, but I would go with 4 for a sex crazed slut.

If you could pick only one power from pic related. which one would be? Kaleidoscope is out of question, but you get the power to enter any world, even a fictional one, for free, regardless of your main power.

Power manipulation is baby mode tier.

>>150095710
Just use it on the mentally ill. Rewritting them to be more productive is a plus for them and you getting whatever outcome you want from them, helps you. It's a win/win. Better than charity, really.

>>150091802
Partial mind control. Let the person under mind control have autonomy of thought, but no freedom to act upon their disgust, except slight facial gestures.

Time control > mind stop > mind control > time stop

>>150095004
1, that gradually turns into 4

>>150095684
>It shouldn't be thought of as an extension to your productivity. If it is, you're in WAY too deep.
Not really. You'd still need to provide for yourself and people you care about. It's a normal concern and taking it in account doesn't mean you can't project yourself in more exotic and weird cases.

There are so many issues with stopping time that mind control seems like the only option that wouldnt get you killed and might actually be doable

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>>150095407
Being a world leader comes with all of its own restrictions and stresses. Maybe that's your thing, but I'd prefer to live a quiet, peaceful, hedonistic life that mind control could easily afford me. I can have plenty of freedom that way.

>>150091802
Time stop can be used for good. Mind control at best can only be used for morally questionable things, as it violates people by its very nature. Thus time stop is a better power.

>>150095771
Deciding what you consider to be "mentally ill" still opens up a lot of ethical issues.

>>150095900
>mind control top execs of corporations
>tell them to put more into helping people
>company does more charity
>helps people
It can easily be used for good things, just like time stop. Both can be used for good/bad things

>>150095745
And then in another 3-4 years when you're getting into your early fifties you start to think that was a dumb choice, given there is literally no costs associated in its use or its storage as per the deal.
You just threw it away because you're 'content'? I don't know man. Perhaps I wouldn't like flying a helicopter but I'd be willing to invest in learning to fly one if life decided to hand one to me.

>>150095845
Yes really. If there are no costs associated (as stipulated earlier) and all the value it has to you is how much MORE money it can make you then you are, certainly and truly, in too deep. Hell, if it has to be an extension of your income at least imagining it as a potential side business of helicopter tours is better than measuring it against your current work and discarding it because it's not compatiable. That's not contentment that's being sedimentary.

>>150092642
Time is still money. Time stop rules.

>>150095974
I think what he's getting at is that its still morally questionable to bend peoples wills to do things that they normally would not, even if it would be a positive net result for a number of people

>>150095929
Homeless people. There you go, clear and quantifiable. Incidentally, so is your influence on their lives. You will be able to map their improvements just as easily as you can measure their contribution to your own gain.

>>150096005
Depends on whether you age in time stop and how you interact with the world during. If I could just enter the void of time to produce either a physical product or write down something I think it would be worth it.

>>150096030
Homeless people are not mentally ill. You're still imposing your will on others without having any sort of moral high ground to stand on.

There's simply no scenario in which using Mind Control on someone else can be considered to be 100% "good".

>>150095264
>not Emma Robert's

>>150095485
> Eat me.
My mouth isn't big enough

>>150095004
1, 3 and 4 leaves the chance you can get killed. If the domination eventually wears off.

>>150096005
Money is a concept. A you can freely alter other's views and thoughts on said concept, having them think your nickle is worth 100,000,000,000 dollars or something. Likewise, you can make people lose belief in the money of a certain person, instantly ruining them without actually withdrawing any money from them.

>>150096133
>Homeless people are not mentally ill
That is a very bold statement you're making. Most are, especially long term people without residence. At least in my country.


>100% good
You were the one who operationalised it in terms of outcome. Good is a philosophical question making the power irrelevent without first addressing the core beliefs that define its use. Clearly you aren't utalitarian

>>150096133
There is no scenario where anything can be considered 100% "good".

>>150095900
>>150096133
>There's simply no scenario in which using Mind Control on someone else can be considered to be 100% "good".
Stopping a murderer. There.
Still, you'd have to mind rape lots of people until you can manipulate people to do real good. Unless you can do it from very far away.

>>150095501
Just changing your cards with the deck's would be enough for a quick blackjack win

>>150096220
Why would 3 and 4 make you any more susceptible to getting killed than 2?

Since time stop can technically turn me into saitama i'd gladly pick it since you can do more shit then just play within the arbitrary limit of humanity.

>>150096014
Depends on your moral compass.

If you mind control hitler into not killing those millions of jews, most would consider that morally good, not questionable.

Lives of few are outweight by lives of many. I wont go into extreme scales, but in general that would be the case.

>>150096290
>Stopping a murderer. There.
Why is he killing people? Does he have any motivation? What's his story?
If you don't know the answer to any of those questions then you are not acting correctly.

>>150096309
>If you mind control hitler into not killing those millions of jews, most would consider that morally good, not questionable.
>not killing jews
>morally good

>>150091802
Does mind reading count as mind control?
Does time manipulation count?

>>150096290
and what if that murderer was about to kill someone that would be a second Hitler in the future?

>>150096342
I did put the "most" clause for a reason.

>>150096325
A murderer about to kill a random Joe who never did a crime.

>>150096353
Reason > what ifs. If there's no reason to think the victim will murder people, there's no reason not to save them.

>>150096342
you my dude are my mind of edgy lmfao xD

>>150095004
I think 3 is going to fuck up your mind eventually. After some time you won't be able to tell if you still have mind control or you are just asking people to do normal things.

>>150095004
3 a best, especially if even after the effect wears off it still feels like a pleasant memory for them no matter what they did.

>Drop your sandwich with mind control
>"Thanks Trump"
>Drop your sandwich with Time Stop
>Pick it from the air and resume eating

>>150091802
Mind control of course.
>>150095004
1>3>4>2 like always.

>>150096299
Either 2 and 3 is the same. Or they aren't.
If they aren't, then 3 is dangerous.

4 is dangerous because it incites passion. Which means you end up having no real control

>>150096460
>Drop your sandwich with mind control
>Get the world's greatest chefs to make you another one

>>150093199
He has way more powers than just time stop though.

>>150096413
>A murderer about to kill a random Joe who never did a crime.
Doesn't matter who is being killed, it matters why the murderer is doing it. At this point in time he's killing some else. Will he always act like that? Is it possible for him to stop doing crime on his own efforts?

Even if you claim it's a "crazed" murderer who kills for pleasure you'd just be doing a fictional lobotomy. You're not killing the body, but you kill the mind. The person that existed before you applied a change ceases to be.

That is why Mind Control is so fucked up.

>>150095004
3>4=1>2

>>150096502
>drop your sandwich with time stop
>stop time
>become the greatest chef in the world
>proceed

>>150096413
So how do you find out if he's killing a random Joe who never did a crime before you try to stop him? That's just playing into the what if scenario that you refused yourself.

Good is just too arbitrary.

>>150096537
I'm not talking about mind controlling him after that, just during thhe act to save a live and then he can get help or change another way.

>>150096568
That's an ideal scenario for the sake of argument. In reality, absolute situation rarely exist if at all, but it'd still be easy to find situations where mind control is the better moral choice.

>>150096560
>now your biological body is 10 years older

>>150092153
Kira died, didn't he?

>>150095748
Tinker is just silly. Five new masteries per day? First day I get the Pedagogy mastery and begin spreading knowledge in a university. Boom, space age. Good bye aids, too.

>>150096620
Theres more situations where mind control is morally objectionable rather than extremes like hitler and the jews
It would be easy to find situations where it would be wrong to violate someones will

>>150095710
I would use on the whole world with no problems. People would lose their "freedom" of hurting others, but I would make the world a better place.

Time Stop is Superior

>>150096679
Hence why I said if an anon got Mind Control, it'd be disastrous. Somebody better could do lots of good with it, even though most wouldn't.

>>150091802
Time stop. I'm too slow to make some stuff and this would help me to finish work in the blink of an eye allowing me to spend more time in things I want to.

Also, I would be too afraid to use mind control, at least in it's full power.

>>150096634
Because of bullshit writing.

>>150096743
Kek, my bad, I mean, Time Stop is Superior

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>>150096733
You read Music of Marie?
Not sure whether I agree or not with the authors on Mind Control. Pretty great read though.

>>150094935

You could also mind control the masses to enjoy the show you like so a second season is assured.

>>150096792
Because Kira is dumb, you meant?

>>150092837
There's a been few anime where the character can stop time but his heart will also stop. Code Geass, Fate/Stay Zero, etc.

>>150096797
>>150096743
fuckin hell, my mind keep slipping like this, lemme say this again

Time
Stop
Is
Superior
:)

>>150096843
That's kinda dumb, their brain should stop then

>>150096743
It's superior in a straight on fight, but if you want to control the world mind control is a more suitable power.

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>>150096869
>>150096743
>>150096797
REEEEE WHO THE FUCK KEEP STOPPING TIME WHEN IM TRYING TO POST HERE THAT Time Stop Is Superior !!!

>>150096502
relevant XKCD
https://xkcd.com/149/

>>150096915
They aren't stopping time,anon.They're mind controlling you.
Which means Mind Control is Superior

>>150096005
>Time is still money

Bullshit, money is what people call money, with mind control you could make people believe your mere presense is worh all the money in the world and have whatever you want

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>>150096818
You wouldn't have to control the masses. Just go straight to the production and control them to have complete control over what kind of anime is produced

>>150096876
It's just a plot device to stop the character from becoming way too OP. Time manipulators, like speedsters, need some sort of power limitation to stop them from utterly destroying the plot.

Mind Control's kinda worthless if you only ever interact with anons on the internet.

On the plus side, I could get ALL OF THE (You)'s I EVER DREAMED OF!

>>150096915
>>150096978
Bullshit. If thats the case then I can just says that Mind Control is Superior without any hassle?

See? Mind Control is Superior

>>150095004
3

>>150097005
Better yet, just control the biggest investor of the company.

Only a retard would chose time stop

>>150097022
Why would you stay on the internet if you have mind control? Go suddenly become a billionaire's best friend and build your harem or something.

>>150092536
>Please tell me what applications it could have other than beating up/raping someone, stealing whatever's not locked up or cheating in an exam.
>beat anyone who you don't like without any repercussion
>rape any girl of your liking and cucking betas with your children
>you can get all the money and stuff you want. Go to a crowded place and pickpocket until you are bored
>Cheat in exams so you get always the highest scores. Easier to get any job you want
You don't really need more. Also
>You can save someone from truck-kun without putting yourself at risk
>you can avoid any attack and run away

>>150097008
Usually for speedsters it's just "Ignore their powers when it's convenient".

With mind control, you can kill a man by just telling their brain to stop working.

Can I use mind control to control my own mind and make myself happy 24/7?

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>>150097044
,,I dont know what to believe anymore..
except that Time Stop is Superior

>>150097022
You could get bitches to post tits instead of gtfo
Mind control gives you the world, even if you don't leave the internet

>>150097149
Not even imaginary superpowers can stop your depression

>>150097138
I quite like the version in Darker than Black where the speedster woman died from colliding with rain drops. Her power is basically limited by how much air friction she can overcome and withstand.

>>150097149
Can I stop time for only certain objects/people?

>>150097149
If mind control = hypnotism than potentially yes.

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>>150097198
At least that makes some sense.

>>150097198
>woman
Burger-kun was a man, you piece of shit.

>>150097279
My bad. It's been a while. Memory's a little fuzzy.

>>150097103
>>150097188
>Interacting with other people
Mind control's a good way to keep people from bothering you, at least

>>150097246
This counter attack thing is fucking dumb

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Couldn't I just mind control the girl to feel like time stops and simulate the same effect of time stop rape?

Mind Control. Not extremely though. I'll work myself up by getting better friends over time until I'm self-sufficient by their "kindness". I totally intend to he a hermit afterwards though. Most realistic situation is getting some rich chick and being her neet.

>>150097229
That would make you OP as fuck, assuming that objects with stopped time is invulnerable to all external forces.

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>>150097361

>>150095004
FOUR NIGGA

>>150091822
>if there are no limitations
Then mind control.
You could literally become the Mule and conquer the world like nothing.
Or just fuck around, figuratively or literally, whatever you want.
Mind control in general has way more applications.

>>150097361
Or you can just hire a hooker to play the dead fish.

But whhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

>>150097361
Depending on your power, yes. That's why Xavier is such bullshit.
You could just mindstop everyone in the room and kill them.

>>150096230
>>150097001
You guys don't understand economics. When I said money it can be anything: dollars, gold, bitcoins. The point is: with TS it's easier to use your skills to make money, since in it's full power you have infinite time, while with MC you can either win a limited amount of money until someone use your power against your, or, in full power you can be the king of the world which is kind of boring if you think carefully.

Unless you want to be a hero, TS is better.

>>150097361
Is timestop rape the only thing you would do with timestop? Whats the appeal of fucking a corpse anyways?

Most of the effects of time stop on people can also be acomplished with mind control, easiest choice ever

>>150097438
Except for the juggernaut

>>150097459
>Is timestop rape the only thing you would do with timestop?
Yeah.

>Whats the appeal of fucking a corpse anyways?
idk anon, what's the appeal of [insert fetish here]?

>>150097452
>with TS it's easier to use your skills to make money

>Hey, bill gates, put all your money on my bank account
>ok, done

More money than you could ever get with TS in a life time

>>150092854
>If someone shoots you
You don't have DIO's vampiric super-reaction and speed.
If you didn't have time to use mind control, you didn't ahve time to react in any way.

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>>150096733
This is the justification of every villain trying to control free will.

I don't disagree completely.

>not using mind control on world leaders and becoming some sort of Earth's overlord
Why?

>>150097452
But with MC you don't even need money. You can just ask to get things for free. Why spend all that effort?

>>150097452
>Unless you want to be a hero, TS is better.

Err aren't mind controllers usually villains?

>>150097452
>until someone use your power against your

You would need to have Lighy Yagami levels of stupid to find a way to do this

Fag do you even know how many time's I've masturbated to King's App?
Mind Control no question

MC doujins > TS doujins

>>150097510
Thanks god he doesn't exist in this thread's scenario

>>150091802
Depends on mind control's mechanics.

>can you read the person's thoughts?
>can you see their view of sight?
>can you control more than 1 person at a Time?
>If you stop controlling someone, can you reactivate it?

There's a lot of shit to consider, but if there's no boundaries to either side (excluding the extra shit I've mentioned above like their view Point), Time stop seems more situationally useful.

>>150097604
As I posted on before with mind control, sone of us don't care about public power. The private power to have a quiet life, no Kira meme, is paradise for me. Just a few rich people while gaining higher connections and they only have to help you once and can chill by yourself.

>>150097538
Think further.

>>150097607
That's a point. But my thoughts are about the use full power of each one.

>>150097648
In a world where you can mind control or time stop people I dont see why there a retardedly strong person doesnt end up appearing too

>>150097687
Wew, I don't see why a retardedly strong person cant show up too*

>>150097628
People with powers are often too arrogant to think like that.

>>150097687
Juggernaut's powers are pretty specific and aren't limited to that. Besides, whether Juggernaut exists or not isn't the point of the thread, or my answer, which was that MC can indeed mindstop people.
It's kinda sad that no one mentioned Rolo yet.

>>150097604
Because I don't want to be an overlord, I just want to live a hedonistic life peacefully and free of worry.

Anything material that can be achieved with mind control can also be achieved with time stop.
The only reason to choose mind control is if you want the affection of human beings, but you'll be living with the fact that it's fake affection anyway.

Does anybody know any time stop/mind control doujins?

>>150097686
>Think further

You show me how you could et richier than this with time stop

>>150097733
well they are tags for a reason anon.

>>150097733
Did you try searching for the tag?

>>150097604
why would you want public power that'd be a hassle

even private power would be annoying

>>150097732
>Anything material that can be achieved with mind control can also be achieved with time stop.
Not really. Unless you want to try and drag shit out of a store

>>150097571
Call me a villain then, I would finish what Light started.

>>150097621
There are situations with heroes with MC. There's a Marvel/DC hero with this power IIRC. (not Xavier, other one)

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>>150097629
My nigga.
>>150097732
But you can do more with people than just get their affection.

>>150096460
>Drop your sandwich with mind control
>manservant Trump brings you a new one
>while Putin scrubs the toilet
>and Erdogan cleans the pig pen

>>150097732
>Anything material that can be achieved with mind control can also be achieved with time stop.

I want to own the world's largest mansion, witth mind control I just need to tell whoever owns it to ive it to me. How would I et it with time stop?

>>150097732
>Anything material that can be achieved with mind control can also be achieved with time stop.
You can't get girls eating your shit like it's a fine dinner with time stop.

>>150097820
Just build it yourself.
You've got all the time in the world.

Can I use mind control to do a reverse mind reading? Like having people readin my mind to know how I feel and think to compensate for may lack of social skills?

>>150097820
You have to work in stopped time until you have the money to buy it.
Which is why MC > TC

You know, Araki said that the power to manipulate time and space is the most scary one, and he is technically right, but it depents on scope.
None of the JoJo villains could even hope to defeat i.e. the Mule, a sickly mutant who died aged 40 due a weak heart, their level is way too low.
The thing is, writing villains like that is hard.

>>150097896
and let people see that all you think about are anime and hentai? I think if anything it'd cause your social interactions to be worse anon.

>>150097738
You can't. Your money will be traced and you will go to jail. The point is, there's a lot of logical limits in this power (not physical, remember that). Again, TS not only is more useful, it's harder to fuck up.

>>150097105
you can do the same things with mind control and more. unless you're trying to be a hero mind control will always be better than time control

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Time stop, especially if you can apply it selectively.

>>150097361
That's basically hoe he got the villain of First Class killed. Even if it wasn't intended.

>>150097961
You can't rape the willing

>>150097891
>Just build it yourself

Are you retard? I'm not an architect to project it, not a engineer to calculate the structure, not a construction worker to know how to build it, I can't afford the materials, and the list goes on.

>>150097958
>Your money will be traced and you will go to jail

Anon said Bill Gates gave him his money, that's not stealing, someone giving you your money is completely legal, and even if you did go to jail (can't picture how) you could get out in a literal minute

>>150097722
>>150092856

>>150097958
And who's going to arrest me, the mindcontrolled cops?

>>150097958
>our money will be traced and you will go to jail. The point is, there's a lot of logical limits in this power (not physical, remember that). Again, TS not only is more useful, it's harder to fuck up.
Just get some rich guy to say "I want to give my money to some random person as an act of kindness and i picked you".

Privately, mind you.

>>150097732
I'd be pretty paranoid of the fake affection if the mind control creeps up in power like it does in Code Geass. Otherwise, there's no problem with that.
The true power of Mind Control is erasing memory, or imposing the idea of normality. You'd be more than invisible to people if they don't register you in their minds, as they won't react to the typical "floating object" and shit; in the end the difference is whether you want authority over humans or over matter.

If you just want to get the maximum enjoyment out of your remaining time, MC is the option. You might get everyone on earth working on finding immortality, but nothing's certain.
If you have bigger goals, TS is the choice.

MC is limited to all humans alive during your lifetime, while TS gives you literally infinite time in which you can do anything and everything.

>>150098089
ah, I'm dumb
Poor Rolo, he was too much of a bitch
>>150098118
Someone will drop a bomb on you, unless you can control the pilot, so it becomes a range issue

>>150098166
>while TS gives you literally infinite time in which you can do anything and everything.
Time presumably continues for you though, and you have a limited lifespan of like 130 years

>>150098188
>The government will drop a bomb on you if they suspect you of somehow stealing money
right
right

>>150097732
>but you'll be living with the fact that it's fake affection anyway
Eh.
I'll be Grand God Emperor of the Universe and All Therein, so I don't care.

>>150098263
Nah it was just an extreme, since the situation of being traced is pretty extreme as well.
Actually they could get a sniper too, after the cop raid fails

>>150097459
playing pranks. Like fucking that girl you hated and then leaving her in a very compromising situation in the middle of a public place.


Mind control seems to be more powerful, but Time stop seems fun.

I wouldn't mind either.

>>150097958
Mind control the judge to plede you innocent, mind control the cops to not arrest you, mind control banks to make your money legal, mind control whoever you need/want to. The only way to fuck up with mind control is if there are other people with super powers in the world

>>150097958
If that's really your concern, then just mind-control some well-off single woman into a relationship with you. Live with her and use her money however you please. From an outside perspective, nothing about the situation looks abnormal or illegal.

>>150091802

Za warudo every time. Mind control will do shit if you are suddenly in a life or death situation where no human is threatening you.

>>150098396
>Mind control will do shit if you are suddenly in a life or death situation where no human is threatening you.
And what life-threatening situation can time stop save you from in this scenario that mind control can't?

You decided to take a trip to a volcano and it erupted?

>>150097732
Wrong.
>do something illegal
>mind control cops and bystanders to forget about it

>>150091802
Hard to say.
These powers are very strong and most downsides in this thread come from imposed limits.
With TS you would have infinite time to find a way to become a living god.
With MC you can boss the entire world around.
>>150098438
You have mind control powers and for reasons a piano is about to fall on you.
What do you do?

>>150098438
>You decided to take a trip to a volcano and it erupted?
SORA KOBOREOCHITA FUTATSU NO HOSHI GAAAAAA
HIKARI TO YAMI NO MINAMO SUIKOMARETEYUUUUKUUUUU

>>150098577
You have time control powers and someone just amerishot at you before you could react
What do you do

>>150098577
>You have mind control powers and for reasons a piano is about to fall on you.
>What do you do?
Not be in a cartoon?

How would I even know if a piano was going to fall on me if I had time stop powers? Stop time every few seconds just to make sure nothing is going to kill me?

>>150098528
You would never "do" anything illegal with either of the powers anyway.
This question is pretty much up to whether or not you age during the time stop.
If you age, then MC is better, if not Time Stop is pseudo-omnipotence and is without question the much stronger power.

>>150098528
>stop time
>do something illegal
>no mind control necessary because it would have been impossible for it to have been seen

>>150098396
>Mind control will do shit if you are suddenly in a life or death situation where no human is threatening you

The monst common causes of death are heart problems, infectious disease, cancer, stroke, respiratory infections and diseases

How the fuck can time stop save you from any of these? Mind control could at least give you the medical treatment for them

>>150098686
>pseudo-omnipotence

Not even close

>>150091802
Neither. There will be a nasty catch somewhere, isn't it?

>>150097805
Is there no hope left in man?

>>150098778
I said pseudo for a reason.
Rather than having Unlimited Power * Unlimited Time, you have Limited Power * Unlimited Time.

>>150098719
While you can escape, it's better if everyone acknowledges an empty bank as normal at least until the control wears off.

>>150098723
You can stop the "time" of your body from aging and thus making you immune from any sickness

ezpz

>>150098686
>Time stop is pseudo-omnipotence
Even if you don't age, how. You can get really muscular I guess and do groundhog day shit of getting good at everything, but being good at things is nowhere near "all powerful".

Or even "powerful" for that matter

>>150098935
>You can stop the "time" of your body from aging and thus making you immune from any sickness
Great job you just stopped your heart and killed yourself.

Biological aging happens because of telomere shortening in cell division, that's not something you can "stop" unless you want to die.

>>150098937
You have INFINITE time. You can dedicate your next 10,000 years to working on quantum physics or whatever the fuck if you so wish.

>>150098935
>get lung cancer
>stop time so cancer won't grow
>live forever on a frozen world

>>150097409
the mule did lose in the end though

>>150099040
Ok, how are you going to work on quantum physics when time is stopped?

You can't really perform any experiments unless there are results

https://strawpoll.de/yfddsb7

>>150099120
Depends on the extend of your power, really.
Since no limitations were implemented, I presume we are perfectly capable of performing expiriments on a limited field, which could be observed in full detail.

None of this matters because superman has a super penis and it'll always be better than yours

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>>150091802
>>150099133
No, I won't.

>>150099237
But whose penis is better, the mind controller's or the time stopper's???

>>150099279
It doesn't matter, the mind controller will make everyone think his penis is the greatest thing to ever exist.

>>150098316
>suspect of stealing money
>better snipe him and carpet bomb his home
Things escalated quickly

>>150099237
>ZA WARUDO
>Proceed to inject him with a estrogen-kryptonite mix
>No more dick
Or
>Mind control
>Remove his dick
>End
Easy.

>>150099228
Right, if we assume this is the case:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
You can stop time and emerge inside Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann a moment later for all anyone cares..

>>150099309
good enough
I've made my choice

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>>150091802
Mob and Dimple sure let themselves go

>>150098374
That's the point. When you mindcontrol someone, people close to that person will suspect.

The only deal would be picking someone without family and friends which is fine but hard to find. Aside from that it's dangerous (not for other people but for you too).

>>150099329
It's not just suspect of stealing money, anon. I'm arguing the same as you: the case when someone would send cops for you despite having no evidence is already extreme, and the sniper scenario comes after that.
Someone would have to explain to the authorities that you are worth stopping even though nothing really links you to crimes. That would mean you're more important than a mafia boss by now, since even they can evade cops for long.

Mind Control may be more useful but Time Stop is just cool. Imagine someone pointing a gun at you and the next thing he knows is that you're gone and you're already behind him pointing his gun at him.

>>150091802
Time stop, depends on how long you can stop time though

How powerful is the mind control? Couldn't someone with insane mental strength be immune?

There is one and only one reason to possibly choose mind control and it is being retardedly obsessed with jojo

>>150099335
Or you just could perform an unlimited amount of pranks.

>>150097409
this
A) world peace
B) a large part of the world will focus on research designed to make me immortal plus terrafroming
C)once im practicly immortal and I have spread humantiy among the stars the real interisting stuff will start

>>150099631
did you get the two confused

>>150099756
Yes I did

ok but which will allow me to find the identities of and kill the jew overlords faster and with no negative effects to me

Mind control would probably be kind of psychologically damaging. Being able to control anyone at a whim would probably have some awful consequences in anyone's mind. So I'd prefer time stop (only if I don't age while time is stopped)

>>150099829
Mind control - faster tracking.
Time stop - faster killing.

>>150099855
>Hey Bill Gates, you're feeling really generous for some reason and are giving me a billion dollars in some weird philanthropic gesture to normal people
Then you never have to use it again.

>>150097733
Nigga, there's thousands of mind control doujins.

>>150095280
>mind control the producers to give you a better story arc
Done

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>>150099631
What did he mean by this?

>>150099868
>Time stop
>Faster killing

But its not, with mindcontrol you can just make them shove a knife , a pen or whatever on their necks and die, you don't even have to do the dirt job yourself.

>>150099534
MC him in not being able to shoot you.
Imagine him trying his hardest to shoot you but he can't, then he points the gun at himself

>>150095004
3 or 4.

>>150099899
>time stop
>steal people
Way easier to go around.
>>150099855
Also, I would prefer time stop because I like learning things and I have a very big list of things I'd like to learn and books to read. I could simply time stop and do anything I want without giving a shit about time. It would be an absolute dream.