Dragon Ball Super

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angel+demon

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>when you get dragged into the worst arc the series has ever had just to have your fusion retconned into utter uselessness by bullshit and to weaken some Bio Broly faggot to be killed by a guy who bullshitted power more than Gohan ever had

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gohan is back

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>>150037567
>then he fucks up anyway and unleashes an intangible swarm of smug Zamasus on the Universe

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>Demon King Piccolofags BTFO
>Vegetafags BTFO
>Friezafags BTFO
>Cellfags BTFO
>Buufags.. don't exist nevermind

How does it feel boys, to be in the presence of a winner like Zamasu?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Deq98PXfQ&list=LLV4lxeNTZEDBxbF-HlujLBA&index=16

Xenoverse 2 Future Trunks not only saves Future Gohan from the androids, but decides to leave the Time Patrol, stay with Gohan and help him prepare for Cell and Buu. All the while knowing that it was against the rules of time travel and would probably have to face punishment from the Time Patrollers.

Why is this Trunks so based while the one we watched just gave up and went to another timeline like a cuck?

Anyone else excited for the upcoming Yamcha baseball episode?

>>150037754
Because Super is shit

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I don't want to start a war here but damn, the manga really is superior
>That guy Zamasu threatened to get information about the Super Dragon Balls actually contacted others about Zamasu's irregular behaviour
>Goku brought the senzu
>Goku actually acknowledges the dangers of pissing off Zen-chan
>Less bullshit and straight to the point, like the original manga
>Pic related

>>150037792
>Yamcha

Who?

>>150037813
>it's better because goku is smarter

nah.

Someone has to make a Zamasu Pepe with "Ningen REEEEEEEE"

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>>150037728

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Hes so damn adorable

>>150037850
>it's better because Goku isn't as retarded as the anime likes to make him
This is fact

>>150037750
Do people really consider him the best, or is this just post-arc memes as we're latching onto something to redeem that pile of shit we just witnessed?

>>150037813
of course the manga is better, you're comparing a series that's actually overseen by TA himself to that of a rushed tv sunday morning cartoon that's based on just the rough plot outlines he sent to them.
The only thing that's bad is the pacing which hopefully becomes better when they expand DBS with Dragon Ball Room. (adding more pages per chapter)

>>150037754
>Gohan: You can't abandon a good friend
F Trunks abandoned his entire timeline and didn't even try to see if he can restore it.

>>150037865

So, the time rings thing. We already proved now that there exist gajillions of alternate timelines.

Does that mean some timelines cease to be and/or don't create alternate worlds or that the rings only represent timelines that interacted with the current one (the main anime one)?

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so finally finished the arc. that little parting ways with Gohan and Trunks at the very end was really touching imo. sadly Gohan didn't do jack shit the entire arc except being a self absorbed oblivious ass.

I thought it was cool Trunks beat the final boss but how he did it was really lame. Vegito was... underwhelming along with Mafuba. Black was best villain sadly soon as he disappeared the arc went to shit imo.

curious on how 2 zen-chans will work. won't they be overkill?

>>150037850
>it's better because the main character is just light, likable comic relief with an actual functioning brain, as opposed to a huge, enormous, irretrievably stupid retard

Hard to argue that's a one-up for the manga.

>>150037981
i meant zamsu+black fusion

Is there a name for this?

>>150037979

>based on just the rough plot outlines he sent to them.

that's both, though.

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>>150037979
>actually overseen by TA himself

>>150037813
The manga is hilarious

Its got a way more DB vibe to it than Z

>>150038019
Why was Gohan all sweaty?

>>150038086
Just finished pumping Videl full of delicious chad seed

>>150037813

The reunion between Trunks and Mai was kind of shit, though compared to the anime.

Couple questions

1. Why does future Trunks have blue hair now?

2. Did Zeno destroy just Earth, Universe 7, or literally everything in existence in the timeline? Why would he do that, is Zeno literally retarded?

3. Why didn't Trunks ever bother learning the location of New Namek to use their Dragonballs?

>>150038114

>pumping
>not cleaning it out after someone else

>>150038129
To be fair, Future Mai is kinda shit. As in, you could remove her and nothing of value would be lost from the arc

>>150038066
>>150038034
He actually goes over Toyotaro's storyboards and revises them. Shueisha and Jump has publicly announced that the manga is indeed overseen by TA himself:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

Shueisha Establishes “Dragon Ball Room” to Expand and Optimize Content

Shueisha revealed that it had newly established a “Dragon Ball Room” on June 21st of this year. Its goal is to break down barriers between departments to expand and optimize the globally popular Dragon Ball franchise.

The announcement was made at Shueisha’s new publication planning presentation held in Tokyo on the 12th. Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”

Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”

Dragon Ball is a hit manga that ran in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984 to 1995; its comics have sold over 240 million copies. The story centers on Son Goku, a boy with outstanding fighting sense, his adventures to get the Dragon Balls (which grant any wish when all seven are gathered), and his stiff competition against various rivals. A TV anime began broadcasting in 1986, and its popularity has endured even beyond the end of the original manga; Dragon Ball Super is currently airing.

>>150038169
>Trunks still mad

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>>150037813
Toyotaro Goku also didn't do this.

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>Goku and Vegeta are starting to get closer to gods of destruction level
>they are asked to be gods of destruction in the near future
>they refuse
>orders are given for them to be erased existence
>Whis decides there is a better option and will ask the super dragon to erase the memories of all the events of Super from the earthlings and others that were involved with these events
>Goku and Vegeta forget about Blue and saiyan god
>just to make sure Whis gathers the super dragons again and asks to lock Goku and Vegeta god powers
>fast-forward to SSJ Goku vs Uub with Whis watching that fight from afar
>the end

There, I found way to make GT canon.

>>150038074
I love the Kaioshin/Beerus moments in the manga.

>>150038129
The anime added a lot of unnecessary stuff between Mai being BTFO by Black and Trunks kissing her though.
>resistance and survivors who would all just die horribly later
>the bullshit of Mai just waking up on her own after getting a ki blast and then just making her get hurt again for the senzu kiss scene

>>150038154
1. Because it distinguished his character more.

2. Everything in the existence of that timeline because he got somewhat annoyed.

3. Because he's a perpetual failure.

>>150038179

Nothing besides the main emotional thrust of the arc, I suppose, andwhat primarily motivates Trunks, But I suppose she wouldn''t make a difference in the laser-throwing portion of the show.

>>150038265
Better idea
Super just isn't canon

>>150037963
Both, memes and people with shit taste who think this arc was good unironically

>>150038086
>be gohan
>struggling to fly to say goodbye to trunks
>cant help but get all sweaty
>lookingthisbadinfrontofeveryoneohgod.mov
>trunks sees me and looks devestated
>all this just to make him feel worse
>got all sweaty for nothing

the state of gohanfags right now

>>150038268
>resistance and survivors who would all just die horribly later

Right. So, you know, you'd actually give a shit? About Yajirobe or Trunk's fanboy club. The ending would be a lot less effective without them.

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>>150037792
Right over here. Grew up watching the original DB, and Yamcha was always my guy.

I don't care it's filler, and I don't care it's not a fighting episode. I just want Yamcha to have a good moment, damn it.

>>150038308
Future Bulma's death could have been the motivator for him

>>150038362
>So, you know, you'd actually give a shit?

Who actually gave a shit though

>>150038380

Future Bulma dies off-screen in the manga and is only mentioned off-hand twice.

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>Some progress, eh?
I had forgotten the last time Future Trunks saw Vegeta he was still sort of a dick

>>150038321
That was also the idea.

>>150038397
All the people posting about how depressing the ending was.

>>150038154
1. Toei
2. Every universe in Trunks' timeline. Because he doesn't give a fuck.
3. They had to ration their food and wait for 1 year to collect enough fuel to start the time machine, all that while the Androids were attacking. Do you think they had time to go prancing around space looking for bumfuck nowhere?

>>150038368
Yamchas too busy bein a pro baseball player and drowning in poon

Yamchas fine

>>150038154
>3. Why didn't Trunks ever bother learning the location of New Namek to use their Dragonballs?
Did anyone even told him about the existence of New Namek?

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>>150038349
I want this to happen. I want Gohan to devolve into an out of shape blob that can't even hold his own against Yamcha.

>>150037377
The best thing to come out of this whole arc is that we've got some pretty great material for Xenoverse 3.

>>150038431
I swear every arc we are reminded that Vegeta was evil.

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>>150038455
People did that?
>mfw those annoying little shits died

Fucking nuisances tbftbh

>>150038265
>I found way to make GT canon.

You were supposed to say end of Z. GT is not that important, the original fucking manga matters a little more.

>>150038086
Piccolo gave him his daily dose

is there any zamasu porn yet?

>>150038547

>mfw those annoying little shits died

Hey now. Everyone was happy about those little shits dying.

>>150038431
The interactions like that between vegeta and goku are gold

The dynamic between the 2 is so much better

>>150037530
semen demon

>>150038586
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=14287266

>>150038508
Want it?

It just did

>>150038154
>1. Why does future Trunks have blue hair now?
Because this new trunks is a shit character and the animators needed a way to differentiate them.

>>150038566
It makes Super to never happened for the characters, it makes Super fans go "whatever, i saw the show and it was a good ride", it makes the end of Z still canon while making sense and makes the GTfags happy.

>>150037813
Future Mai surviving an attack from Black makes more sense in this version because of the Senzu Beans.

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>>150038154
>1. Why does future Trunks have blue hair now?
Toei.

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ZAMASU

>>150038732
>toriyama
>remember
Them having the same color hair is just a quirk of probability.

>>150038732
Purple haired Trunks is better than blue
This is fact

>>150038431
is the manga 18 subed already? any links?

>>150038713
the mouth to mouth senzu scene was more natural in the manga too. it was so forced in the anime with the "oh no, she hurt herself again, pls save her trunks!" shit.

>>150038815
no matching hair represents a maternal bond/ blood relations. this is a fact.

>>150038732
>Dr.Briefs have purple hair
>Mrs.Briefs is blond
>Bulma gets blue hair because of that
>Trunks gets purple because grandfather

The fucked up from Toei's side could have been fixed like that.

>>150037813
source to this chapter?

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>>150038732
>that old bulma image

C U T E !

>>150038825

So is purple-haired Bulma tbqh

>>150038826
>>150038958
http://yonkouprod.com/dragon-ball-super-chapter-18/

>>150038667
What was this?

>>150038732
>saving my collage
my ningen!

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I hope the manga gives us some good feats

>>150038978
>nipples
Fuck muh dick

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>>150039017
That pic is pretty helpful to explain the blue hair stuff, anon.

>>150038732
Obviously, Trunks' hair darkened as he grew older, which is why present trunks has his normal color hair. This same stuff happens to people irl with blonde hair.

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The manga is shit because it has way less Gowasu in it.

>>150039066
Yep, i had a lot of fun collecting the original pics from the colored pages of the manga.

How would /a/ rate the DBS soundtrack?

>>150039075

>this meme

It was Blue in F.Trunks' flasbacks as well.

>>150039078
Manga Gowasu is more wise than Anime Gowasu who is just retarded.

>>150039111
>flashbacks
who cares

>>150039116

>more wise

Nah, he's just a flatter, duller character. He doesn't actually show any better judgment.

>>150039140
it proves your theory wrong and it's clearly a retcon for the sake of Super's Bulma having blue hair.

>>150039140

If you wanted that retarded theory about his hair darkening to be true, it's sort of important that he'd have purple hair as a kid in his own timeline.

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>>150039066

lavender haired Trunks a best,

makes me wonder if Trunks and Mai have kids what hair color would they have?

>>150039144
>flatter, duller character.
Thanks for describing Anime Gowasu.
>muh tea
>Zamasu!!!!

>He doesn't actually show any better judgment.
Pay attention.

>>150037750
I'm a Buufag.
He's still a best.

>>150039144
Gowasu was wise to show the Babarian's cultural evolution because in the manga they showcased that they were at least on a path by presenting the Elder/Sage Babarian that they were worshipping.
Anime they were all savages with no sense of progression.

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>>150037813
Anyone else thinks that toyotaro is "fixing" all the stupid mistakes and goku jokes that Toei is doing with the anime? He's making them look like idiots

Why didn't they use Gogeta instead of Vegitto?

>>150039277
Yes because he's literally /our guy/

>no resistance and survivors
Might mean no Genki Dama asspull blade by Trunks.

>>150039277
I'm thinking Trunks won't be able to pull of the spirit sword in the manga too, because there are only a handful of humans left. If Vegito comes this time, he'll likely be permanent and the one to finish off Zamasu before the gas thing happens.

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>>150039337
>If Vegito comes this time,
Please be Merged Trunks instead.

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>>150039206
Seeing how none of Vegeta and Bulma's kids have black hair, then maybe blue/lavender hair is dominant over black hair.

Also, sauce on your pic?

>>150039381
Kid Trunks didn't come to the future though.

>>150039387
>Trunks never had a tail
>somehow his kid will
????

>>150039300
No idea, but it was more then likely because they wanted to get rid of the VEGETTEROTT WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS ASS stuff.
I mean, Toriyama fucking LOATHED the potaro fusion of those two.

>>150039381
>Trunks even asspulls mario kart races

>>150037813
The manga is certainly better, but it's still based on some terribly written plotlines that Toyo can only do so much to try to salvage.

It's really not good, but at least it's not sub-gt level bad like the anime is.

>>150039346

trumai tag on tumblr

>>150039408
See >>150038431
>If worse comes to worse, you two return to the past.

>>150039420
Why not?
Gohan had a tail and pan doesn't.

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>>150039420
Blame the artist who drew that pic.

>>150039424
>because they wanted to get rid of the VEGETTEROTT WOULD HAVE KICKED HIS ASS stuff.

They did a pretty bad job considering they handed him the best animated fight scene of Super, and put him clear levels ahead of merged Zamasu.
It was really because they wanted to hype the next episode and pull a rating, which they did.

>>150039436

>being this assdevasted over Trunks

it's time to let it go anti-kun, your boy Zamasu won, the arc is over.

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>>150039452
Thanks, anon.

>>150039474
>other quarter Saiyan didn't have a tail when their half Saiyan parent did
>so another quarter Saiyan could when their half Saiyan parent never did

????

>>150039500
>assdevastated because my boy won and my anti-boy lost

It's a victory lap

>>150039446
Dubfags plz go

>>150039486
Yeah...and Vegeta was clear levels over Kid Buu..OH YEAH Kid buu tanked every single fucking thing he threw at him and then proceeded to tear him several new ones.

Railing on someone who's mostly invincible and apparently doesn't get tired or lose ki means fuck all unless they are DEAD.
Fucks sake the cheap faggots at toei couldn't even be arsed to make a tired and dying looking Blackmassu to give your bullshit any real weight.

As it stands Vegetterot just pulled a VEGETA GOT MAD AND BEAT SOMEONE UP FOR A FEW SECONDS thing and then got completely blown out.

>>150038431
>Vegeta tells Trunks to return to the past
>Trunks learns the Mafuba directly from Roshi instead of imitating it perfectly from watching a video

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>>150039300
Vegeta never learned the yoka yoka dansu. And it would be incredibly out of character for him to do so anyway.

>but he did in GT
Who gives a flying fuck about GT?

>but the dance scene in BoG
Fair point, but he also hates fusion in general. It'll be a pretty big deal if he ever agrees to a fusion dance.

I wish Chichi when back to their DBZ cloths SUCH A MILF

>>150039520
Sorry, Tails shouldn't be something that will be simply LOST and not appear.
A tail is part of their genetic saiyajin heritage and if half and quarter saiyajins can go SSJ then they damned sure should have the potential to be born with a tail.

>>150039599
The dialogue literally supports that Zamasu was tiring and getting fucked up.
Not my fault you can't keep up with a sunday morning chinese children's show, lad

>>150038431
Alright Kakaro
t, Let's get this Starte
d

>>150039602
I think Toyotaro won't even mention the Mafuba in the manga.

>>150039420
I'm sure he did and they just had it removed immediately at birth circumcision style

>>150039624
Counterpoint
He did the whole bingo dance shit

>>150037813
I really hope the manga isn't going to be rushed, it's so much better the anime.

>>150039669
The actual fucking scene doesn't support it.
What is said means nothing compared to what is shown.
Every single thing we saw happening up till that point in this arc and what we've seen in DB since goku was absolutely convinced that bulma had a tail like him outright states that he was more then likely going to change into a monsterous superform!

They cheap bitched out and decided to end this failed arc early to shit out sub mediocre slice of life stuff.

What was the point of Zamasu? Was he really butthurt about some worthless weak Earthlings, or did the term 'human' refer to all mortals in the universe?

And why the fuck didn't he just blow up the Earth if he's immortal?

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>>150039677
Damn, I thought the same thing. What a terrible job this guy made trying to fit the dialogue in the bubbles. But at least it's better than reading the shitty Niggastream translations.

>>150039779
Everything about this arc was stupid and badly thought out.

Goddamnit, DB is one of the simplest fucking IP on the planet.
It's litterally impossible to fuck it up.
There are multiple fully realized wiki out there and entire chunks of the net and youtube dedicated to discussing every single thing about it.

And yet they manage to limp to the barn with the most retarded trash every concieved.
Not even the people who run fucking beyblade or pokemon would allow barely thought out trash like this to air.

>>150039662
Or they just had them removed at birth or something.

Everything doesnt have to MEAN something, stop being such an autist.

>>150039783
>>150038431
Where are you reading this?

Is it Toriyama drawing the manga? If not, looks damn impressive.

>>150039691
But I addressed that already...

To expand on it though, the bingo dance in BoG was very out of character. In a way, Vegeta's personality actually jobs here to demonstrate how scary Beerus is.

So it could happen again, but they already played that card and it wouldn't have the same effect. Also it's well established that Vegeta hates fusing, so add a faggy dance into the mix and you're really asking a lot. Could happen - sure, but obviously not in an arc that's already placed emphasis on portara earrings.

>>150039905
See >>150038993

>>150039779
He means mortals.
He's fucking dumb and doesn't understand basic biology.
He didn't blow up the earth because he totally thinks animals are ok.

A better question is "why didn't he just wish ningens away with the super dragon balls he had free access to".

>>150039930
Thanks.

Requesting someone do a shop of the "absolutely disgusting" meme with Zamasu subtitled "absolutely ningen"

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>>150039914
Nope, Toyotaro is drawing the manga.

>>150040051
And it shows, especially with choreography. Though to be fair, Tori's some real big shoes to fill in that department.

Can toyotaro even manage a weekly schedule like they've been hinting at?

>>150039914
No it Toyable, hes gotten guite good at imitating toriyamas style. Some of the art is pretty damn cool too.

I personally cannot wait to see the mangos version of events from this arc. I have a feeling its going to be short though, seeing as how theyre all talking about how the manga is going to take the lead and the anime is going to follow it, and the anime isnt going on break afaik, so the only recourse is for the manga to catch up.

Could easily wrap this whole arc up in 2-3 issues if you cut out the back and forth BS, especially if the issues are going to run longer than normal for a bit.

>>150039886
That's fucking retarded.
They are too civilized to just rip off a piece of their childs anatomy all willy nilly.
You are banned from posting.

>>150038541
well he only stopped being a dick in the buu saga

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Has anyone tried rewatching the arc after finishing it? I''m in the middle of doing that, and fuck. Knowing how it all ends really changes the tone of a lot of these scenes.

>>150040139
Remember in episode 51 when Future Mai said to Future Trunks "for us Humans, you are our hope"

>>150038993
thank you very much

>>150040174
>all 23 remaining humans on Earth

>>150038254
Manga Goku hasnt met with zeno yet

And he totally would do that.

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>>150040228

>>150040214
Don't forget the ancient robot, the talking turtle and the cat.

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>>150040214

>>150040139
>>150040174
I don't think I could put myself though that mess a second time.

>Welp the universe is destroyed and Trunks and Mai are the only survivors, everyone that trusted them is dead, even the children. But HEY they get to freeload in a new timeline and we even brought a second Zeno to our universe because one wasn't dangerous enough, just because Goku is a dumbshit who can't honor promises to hyperdangerous cosmic entities.

Cause for celebration.

Does anyone have the DBS volume 2 cover?

>>150037530
>YES.

>>150040279
>and we even brought a second Zeno to our universe because one wasn't dangerous enough

Oh shit that's true.
What the fuck happened to the future

>>150040135
>flithy uncircumcised penis detected

>Buu saga Genkidama requires all of heavily populated Earth to destroy Buu
>Zamasu arc Genkidama blade gathers 0.0001% of that energy and "kills" the strongest foe to date

Why

Poor Android 8, he had to deal with faces in the sky and getting blasted. I bet Arale wasn't even hurt.

>>150040331

Nothing was left of it. Goku should have let Futuru Zeno float in that endless void until he got bored and made a new multiverse rather than doubling the chances of the main timeline being wiped out in a temper tantrum.

>>150040362
the genki blade was able to split his body thats all

>>150040362
>>Buu saga Genkidama requires all of heavily populated Earth to destroy Buu
All of earth, Namek, presumably most of the universe, and even the on the other side of death.

>>150040362
Because Super has super shitty writing.

>>150040368
Arale was just floating somewhere in that void, like Zeno.

>>150040424
>Because Super (Anime) has super shitty writing.
ftfy

>>150040390
There is no evidence that Zeno can create. Only destroy

He isn't "God", but damn close.

>>150040446

God, I can't wait for the Arale episode.

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>What the fuck is going on
>How did I get on the roof
>Roshi help

>>150040490

I know the Supreme kais make the planets, but I thought he made the multiverse ?

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I'm really upset that Zeno isn't a single being that exists outside of the multiple timeline nonsense. I was convinced this was the case.

>>150040538
That hasn't been said, just that he got pissed and deleted a bunch of universes. So we don't know.

>>150037963

Zamasu was born to be a meme, but the fact that the writers let him win without even realizing it made it even funnier.

>>150040575
Your mistake was taking DB seriously.

Learn.

>>150040521
Poor Turtle, just getting thrown around by Mafuba and now seeing Zamasu faces.


Speaking of which, It would have been better if the episode ended with mafuba fucking up Zamasu DB style just to piss off DBZ fans.

>>150040289
bump

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Why is Vegeta so cute here?

>>150040679
>just to piss off DBZ fans.
Why would that piss them off?

>>150038265
This is so fucking retarded I think Toei would actually do something like this

>>150040358
This will be the last generation that forces circumcision onto unaware parents and newborn infants.

>>150040538
Zen'o has been referenced as the highest god, but they've never actually called him creator. So, they could introduce a Zen'oshin eventually that actually takes that spot.

>>150040575
Then what if multiple gokus from multiple timelines decide to pay a visit to Zenos on the same date? In which time and space is Zenos castle?

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>>150040655
I don't take DB seriously at all. I just thought there was one Zeno that was outside of timelines that got created.

>>150037813
>That guy Zamasu threatened to get information about the Super Dragon Balls actually contacted others about Zamasu's irregular behaviour
That happened in the anime.
>Goku brought the senzu
This is because Toyotaro has to compact the arc into one battle because he's slow as shit.

>>150040575
Well time travel is supposed to be strictly verboten right?

Only the kaioshin has access to the time rings, and even they can only jump forward.

Maybe this is why, they dont have powers that span across time.

>>150040731
Why is he blushing?

>>150040731
Fucking retarded.

>>150040731
Vegeta, for this brief moment, realizes how tender he has been with Bulma.

He then thinks of Goku and Chichi's marriage.

"Oh that poor woman..."

>>150038265
It's not happening. GT is co-owned by Toei, while Shueisha is on top of Super. There's no reason to make Super lead into something Shueisha has limited control over.

>>150038265
I was thinking something like that might happen. Nothing fits in place with the end of Z. Maybe shit goes down and some sort of universal reset is necessary.

>>150040249
If you know a place that has chapter 18 already please prove me wrong, id love to read it

>>150040737

I don't know, don't they like super serious fights? wouldn't something as anticlimactic as this make them annoyed?

>>150038993
god damn even though it felt like it was ln fast forward they fucking nailed all their jokes.

>>150040771
The "main" one I guess? The timelines (and time rings) appear when someone diverges off the original timeline, no? So I would have assumed he resided in the original.

>>150040874

>>150038993

>>150040362
.0001?
?That's nearly a quarter million people.

I seriously doubt there was even a few hundred people left alive on the entire earth.
That's not even mentioning how much flora and fauna was decimated by the androids, cell, bibidi and his posse, and finally black and zamazu.

Face it. The genki dama made on FTrunks world wouldn't have been weaker then a masenko from pissed gohan during the Saiyajin saga.

>>150038265
That's dumb. That's literally worse than how this arc ended. This is why Toei shouldn't listen to fans.

>>150040778
>Toyotaro has to compact the arc into one battle because he's slow as shit.
he's not slow as shit you dipshit, this is incredible pacing given he has limited pages for a fucking monthly.

>>150040922
>replying to bait

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>>150040778
>Goku brought the senzu
>This is because Toyotaro has to compact the arc into one battle because he's slow as shit.

Pic related


Whis: “Does Goku Black wear these Potara on his ears, like Kaioshin here?”
Trunks: “…! He does! But only on one ear.”
Goku: “That’s a pretty big clue. You shoulda told us sooner!”

Goku: “Better hide the time machine and get away from here.”

Face it, Toyotaro Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Toei Goku

>>150040679
>just to piss off DBZ fans.

m-muh boogeymen

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>>150040965

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>The genki dama is a complex technique only goku learned in DB
>It is powerful and free ki, but it requires a chargeup time proportional to that power
>The weakness of the technique is you have to leave yourself open to gather this energy, for a terribly long time depending on how far you intend to reach

Or you can just be Trunks and literally do it by accident while in the middle of a heated swordfight, not having to charge or gather the energy at all.
Bravo, Toriyama.

>>150040490
It's outright stated that he fucking created everything dumbass.
The kais are all put in place and created by the angels to do specific tasks to keep Zenos imaginary play rooms working well.

On an unrelated note.
Why in the fuck are there 12 universes? It was heavily hinted at during the tournament arc that they followed split timeline rules.

>>150040358
you dumb fucking jews will never EVER feel real pleasure or sensation. Let that sink in before you mutilate your own children you fucking cuck.

>>150041044
>Bravo, Toei
ftfy retard.

>>150039779
Zamasu (before going insane when he became a cloud) liked nature (thus the cabin in the woods), just disliked mortals with intelligence and a physical form that resembled the gods.

They show several times in the arc that the natural areas around the ruined cities in Trunks' world were just fine.

>>150041065
>It was heavily hinted at during the tournament arc that they followed split timeline rules.
No it wasn't.

>>150041044
Dont get upset, Super is actually supposed to be a joke

>>150040953
Some anon in a previous thread thought of a much better resolution than what we got, wherein the now homeless, universe-less Trunks and Mai go to work with the Supreme Kai of Time to help unfuck the horrid mess they made, starting the Time Patrol and canonizing Xenoverse.

Much better than just having trunks have to seek asylum in a previous timeline after completely failing to protect his own.

>>150040575
Me too.
The ending of this arc was fucked up and stupid at the same time.

>>150040362
The Buu Saga Genki Dama had the energy of all of humanity and the Nameks, but the one here had the energy of all of nature in addition to the human survivors.

All living beings on the planet >>> Humanity by itself.

>>150041076
I'm going to laugh at you when it happens in the manga.

>>150041111
you can't canonize Xenoverse precisely because that's a whole different Trunks but I guess it'll be close enough.
Not to mention the time travel in Xenoverse is just plain fanservice merely existing for gameplay reasons and will never be "canon"

>>150041155
See >>150039328
>>150039337

Retard.

Will Cabba be part of Champa's baseball team? I want Cabba x Vados to be canon

>>150041177
>that's a whole different Trunks

An older one yes, I see your point. But it's close enough like you said, and the only visual difference between the two is the hair anyway.

>>150039337
There WERE a literal handful of humans in the anime.

>>150041085
Beerus and Champa universes are the exact same except for a few things here and there.
There is no reason what so ever for their completely different universes to resemble each other that closely unless the go by split timeline rules.

>>150041265
See >>150040277 retard.

>>150041309
Not by the end of the arc, stupid. They were getting killed off between trips. By the final fight only about a dozen remained.

>>150041188
What a random shipping pair. Stop being queer.

>>150039677
I'd honestly have this rather than niggastream and Vegeta yelling "COCKSUCKER!!!!" at the top of his lungs, jesus fucking christ

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>>150041337
>Not by the end of the arc, stupid. They were getting killed off between trip
Retard.

>>150041299
They resemble each other because each universe has a twin, actually. Not time twins, just twins.

A better question is why other universes still seem to be so similar. They just have differently colored Kaioshins, but otherwise seem identical in general form and structure.

>>150041373
They literally bring that point up several times, trunks is mortified so many people were killed during his second absence.

By the end, the only survivors in mai's group are the handful you see.

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>>150037377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

>>150041429
>during his second absence
That's when Mai said this: >>150040277

>>150041125
EVERY FUCKING GENKI DAMA GETS ENERGY FROM ALL LIVING THINGS FUCKTARD

FTs world was so devoid of life and so battle scarred that there should scarcely be enough life energy on their earth to create a genki dama that is stronger then the attacks of goku vegeta and trunks combined.

Let's just forget how deeply fucking stupid the spirit sword is or, how trunks shouldn't have even been able to keep up with zamaso no matter how "weak tired and worn down" he was or how he just got a genki dama out of nowhere.

It logically shouldn't have been strong enough to tickle him let alone kill him.

Think about it.
What if Vegeta brought up goku using the genki dama and him and trunks saying that they might be strong enough to hold blackmassu off.
Think about how disheartening and sad it would be for goku to just say "I thought about that, there arent enough living beings left in the universe to create a genki dama that can hurt him let alone destroy him".

>>150041436
Getting erased from existence is winning? Zamasufags are delusional.

>>150041387
I reiterate, fucking split timeline rules.

That even helps solve your question.

>>150037377
Remember Trunk's entire arc, and all his struggles ended in failure. He failed to protect and free the future. Thanks to his actions the future suffered a worse fate than the androids could ever have possibly dreamed of doing.

>>150041580
THANKS DOC

>>150041574

That's not implied at all and are in fact explicitly said not to be the case. Each universe has a twin that it is similar to, but they're not like that due to changes in the past.

>>150041580
thanks doc

>>150041600
>Thanks to Zamasu being a faggot, Gowasu being a dumbass and Goku being a retard, the future suffered a worse fate than the androids could ever have possibly dreamed of doing
ftfy

>>150041387
Twin universe share the same species. We know that U6 and U7 has Saiyans and Metalmen.

>>150040731
I always thought Vegeta just raped Bulma to start off their relationship

Guess he was loving after all

>>150041638
Then their universe follows no actual fucking logic what so ever.
They just exist like that so that beerus can have a fat twin and whis can have a hot sister.

Can we at least agree that this arc was more entertaining then anything out of GT?

>>150041681
Yes? Because they're twin universes. Think of them like slightly bizarro versions of each other.

>Then their universe follows no actual fucking logic what so ever.
Well, yeah? I mean did you watch the U6 arc? The universe in DBS is fucking retarded.

>>150041580
thanks doc

>>150041746
You're gonna say I'm memeing, but not for me. I think this arc, dank memes aside, was literally worse than Super 17.

>>150041065
>Why in the fuck are there 12 universes?
There was more, but Zeno destroyed some.

>>150041803
Gay.

>>150040731
Well apologists? What now? All you people said this was a Toei shitting on Goku moment yet again. But here we see it in the manga. What excuse will you all come up with next?

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>>150041746
>implying we'll ever agree on anything ever

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Man, I remember when Goku had manners.

>>150041803
Spotted the mexican.

>>150041803
>bait

>>150041843
What's wrong with saying "Hey"?

>>150041854
Says the DBS loving spic.

>>150041705
You got that backwards actually.
Vegeta was a virgin till the worlds bicycle, and smartest woman the world ever created, got a hold of him.

He was too weak to fight her off, she was in a nurturing+horny over prince dick mood.
She rode him, after she was able to get accustomed to him, like he was a bucking bronco and she was an experienced cowgirl.
10 minutes later he was passed out and she was hobbling to the shower sore and with a look of victory and happiness on her face.

Oh but Vegeta was taking the pussy every five minutes after that though. There isn't a single spot on the MASSIVE briefs compound that he hasn't basically raped her raw and barely conscious.
He's carried her ravaged semen dripping body to her room hundreds of times.

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>>150041803
>worse than Super 17
10/10

>>150041886
Hey is for horses

>>150041746
Baby saga was better

>>150041803
(you)

>>150041918
It was. The Zamasu arc is the biggest, dumbest clusterfuck in Dragonball this side of the Heroes game canon.

>>150041843
Me too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX6m7D83Q8Q

>>150041803
are you, say, retarded by any chance?

>>150041803
Aprobado por el santo padre Juanse.

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>>150041994
Not sure why that matters but if you must know, yes.

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You guys said Goku was less of a retard in the manga
Why did you lie?

>>150042109
Lying fags trying to save Super from hate.

>>150042109
They just can't accept that its really their precious Toriyamasama behind this fucking shitty writing.

>>150042109
We didn't dumbass.

Goku brought the senzu

>>150038254

Whis: “Does Goku Black wear these Potara on his ears, like Kaioshin here?”
Trunks: “…! He does! But only on one ear.”
Goku: “That’s a pretty big clue. You shoulda told us sooner!”

Goku: “Better hide the time machine and get away from here.”

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Has anyone watched this trash fan series?

WHo here playing DB Fusions?

>>150042182
No. If there's something out there that is actually worse than DBS, I wouldn't survive watching it.

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>>150042109
>dat last panel

>>150042182
I'd rather jerk off to meatspin

>>150042109
Nah, that isn't even bad. It's not like that "Beerus-sama, you have a funny face" scene from the anime or him forgetting important shit every fucking time they go to the future.

>>150042182
It's made by a literal nigger. The writing is awful

>>150042182
Literally worse than Super.
Worse than even GT.
Makes Multiverse and the AF doujins look like high art.

>>150042182
I gave it a peek after seeing it here, thinking it might be unintentional funny and I'm sure I have contracted AIDS in the process.

>>150042261
All you had to say was it was worse than Super, since the rest is implied by that statement.

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>>150042253

>>150042159
Dude, it's outright stated that Toriyama only does basic rough outlines and everyone else writes it.

It's been trash so far because they're mostly fucking hacks who don't know about or care for the series and aren't professional enough or give enough of a fuck about their jobs to even TRY.

They'll just limp to the barn with easily written saturday morning tripe for preschoolers while DESPERATELY banking on nostalgia bucks. Hell even zamasu, black, and trunks fuccboi never cool form were created to pull in fujo munnies.

Series is over with my niggas. They'll just keep crapping out sub mediocre stuff using the DB IP till they fuck up just badly enough to where they can't sell shwag and media anymore.

>>150042219
>>150042236
>>150042259
>>150042261
>>150042292

It has alot of views and high ratings. Why is the Dragonball YouTube fanbase so cancerous?

>>150042356
>It has alot of views and high ratings. Why is the Dragonball YouTube fanbase so cancerous?
People love Dragon Ball Super. It's not just youtube.

>>150037530
Her feet are fucking huge what the hell

>>150037980
>Implying its not futility to try undoing the supreme one

>>150042109
this is tame compared to the trash we get in the sunday morning cartoon adaptation.

>>150042394
What's the problem?

Goku singlehandedly ruined Trunk's entire life and is directly responsible for the destruction of his entire timeline.

>>150042445
It's tame because Toei has to wait for the manga while the manga has to rush to catch up. Can't waste as much time on goku bieng fucking stupid.

>>150042109
Does anyone know what this faggot is bitching about in this page?

>>150038265
Nah, it'll just be the same shit they did with future Trunks and Mai. Some big bad will result in Zeno wiping the universe, Whis will save Goku and Vegeta, travel back in time, and get them to defeat the big bad before Zeno presses the DELETE button, and there'll be two Gokus and Vegetas, where the ones from the new timeline are end of Z/GT

>>150037980
It would be impossible for Future Trunks to restore his timeline. Literally everything was erased, and the current Super Dragon doesn't have the power to alter different timelines

>>150042394
It's probably a dude.

>>150042474
Not in the Anime, Trunks caused everything by seeking Goku's help in the past.

>>150042484
>It's tame because Toei has to wait for the manga while the manga has to rush to catch up
You again. Nope, see >>150041019

>>150042526
Goku could have finished Black the second he appeared. Instead Goku had to get his jollies.

>>150042474
Why is Goku x10 dumber in Super? He was always sort of immature but he is literally acting dumber than his actual child self from DB

>>150042484
Manga Goku meditates and actually progresses the plot with smart questions.
His humor is also more like 4th wall breaking instead of the dumb flanderization we get of Anime "the retard" Goku from Toeil

>>150042497
Apparently, the Super Dragon orbs only exist in the prime timeline universe and in no offshoot universes. And it is almost as if not more powerful then Zeno. It just has very strict rules about what it can and can't do.

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>>150042484
>Can't waste as much time on the main character

>>150042294
It's different levels. Allow me to explain.
Super at its worst is better animated than Absalon on average. Its characters make more sense and its worst asspulls don't compare to Absalon's.
GT at its worst is more coherent and better executed than Absalon. Its ideas hold up together far better than that shit does.
Multiverse's worst specials are less boring than Absalon. The character assassination it does to Vegito is nothing compared to what they did to TRUNKS.
The AF doujins have better villains than Absalon does, and it shows; because Absalon outright steals them.

>>150042526
What about Gowasu who could have stopped this shit from happening if he wasn't a fucking dumbass?

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>>150041522
The spirit sword is just that - a sword. Swords cut things. Zamasu was cut. He didn't die, or even get weakened. He was cut. If anything, it made him stronger.

>>150042569
>Apparently, the Super Dragon orbs only exist in the prime timeline universe and in no offshoot universes.
They dont exist because they were destroyed by Zamasu.
I dont really know what you're saying here.

is niggastream really that bad?

>>150039206
>everyone thought they'd end up adopting those two random kids
>instead the kids die
hue

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>>150042635

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>>150042635
They are the modern day animelabs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El2KSY9oVhA

>>150042600
Goku deflected Trunks sword with a fucking finger in the Trunks saga.

The Z sword didn't do shit against Dabura.

Black tanked every single cut from Trunks sword and even broke it.

The only sharp energy attack in all of DB that is CANON bullshit levels of broken and will cut your shit up is the Kienzan.
If Trunks wanted to get shit done he would have made his bullshit genki dama into a kienzan and fucked him up with that.

>>150042686
This sword was powered by friendship.

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>>150038732
>>150039066
So what about this one?

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>>150042712
>red hair

>>150042600
>Disturbed

Remember when Funimation unironically used Disturbed for the movie soundtracks along with other nu-metal garbage?

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>>150042686
Did you leave your brain somewhere else? Energy swords are all over the fucking place in this arc. They cut anything, because it's fucking energy.

>>150042670
>shit doesn't hit the fan
Please tell me this is just a shitty translation.

>>150042626
I thought the only existed in the prime timline...the one where Goku and co exists and weren't subject to the retarded new multiverse every time trunks wants to use his time machine thing.

Anyway, if they are subject to that bullshit, then the super dragon balls are still around in gokus multiverse because zamasu was obliterated before he used then destroyed them.

>>150042593
Gowasu isn't a fighter. Zamasu did kill him. Stop him how?

>>150042712
There's a whole series of off colored pages in the manga called "Grey scale" color pages and they're based on reds and greys. I'm assuming that this one can be listed under that category.
Ink was expensive in the past, especially purple.

>>150042678
Well atleast it isn't out of character even if rude by DB standarts.

>>150042670
This though, what the fuck!?

>>150042753
Energy swords are still energy, they can be deflected and canceled easily.

And the genki dama isn't ki. It's life energy/spiritual energy. It's not supposed to be just random fucking ki you can make into a blade.

>>150042777
By not taking a ningen-hating retard as an apprentice, or not showing him a planet full of fucking barbarians after he said how much he hates ningen, or kicking him out after he killed that Babarian.

>>150042738
I sure do.

https://youtu.be/R4cpxRbQdQI?t=112

>>150042834
>It's not supposed to be just random fucking ki you can make into a blade.
It's not too far fetched. I mean in that non canon android movie Goku channels the Spirit Bomb into a punch.

>>150042791
It's funny.

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Zamasu is stronger than Toei plot armor!!

>>150039599
Vegeta wasn't hugely above Boo, if at all. He managed to stall until Boo kicked him once

>>150042860
Yes...yes it is far fetched.

Because it's not ki.
It's life energy.
It doesn't follow the same rules as ki
It's like making a car out of oxygen.
It doesn't work logically.

>>150042972
No it's not that far fetched, matter of fact the kanji for "Genki" is literally written as Gen-Ki. Saying Genki (life energy" isn't energy makes no sense.

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so we can all pretty much agree that Zamasus character was based off of Xayide from never ending story 2.

>both hated anyone that wasnt them
>wanted to bring order to the world with chaos
>both end up crying before their end

>>150039257
i want to fuck buu

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>>150042972
>Because it's not ki.
>It's life energy.

qi
CHē/
noun
the circulating life force whose existence and properties are the basis of much Chinese philosophy and medicine.

>>150043025
I think even Hitler would make for a better analogy.

>>150043016
>元気玉 = spirit bomb/genki dama
>気 = ki/qi/chi

It's literally the same word in both.

>>150042947
...
Vegeta, was at no point in all of the buu saga, on the same level as ANY version of Buu.
Not ever.

If you doubt me then go back and rewatch the kid buu fight.
The best he could do was not get totally raped by fat buu when he first fought him and fat buu wasn't even serious.

Vegetta during the KidBuu fight was also at best only able to activate his last minute WE ALL GONNA DIE desperation power up and hold him off for a few seconds. And most of that time was him being a punching bag for kid buu.

>>150037940
he looks like a cocksleeve

>>150037377
Trunks freed him from his corrupted mortal shell and he was able to become a real god.

>>150039001
Palcomix cancer

broly soon