Dragon Ball Super

So Beerus/Champa and Whis/Vados being twins made sense since universe 6 and 7 are twin universes. But apparently Grand Priest, someone outside of the 12 universes serving directly under Zeno is their father. So do Whis and Vados have 10 other siblings that accompany the GoDs of all the other universes? Are all the other GoDs also purple cats?

>>150012935
I just assumed the angels aren't part of the universes and are distributed by All-Chan amongst the gods of destruction, who ARE actually picked from their respective universes.

>>150012935
I don't know if it was real, saw a thumbnail on youtube with a good from another universe talking to beerus in the next arc.

Seemed like beerus, but it was a white dog.

>>150012859
he won technically

>>150012859
finally

>>150012859
If Goku hadn't existed the future universe would still be fine. Him fighting Zamasu encouraged him to go through with his plans. On top of that him calling Zamasu gave the residents of that timeline a fate worse than the death Zamasu was gonna give them. Complete nonexistence.

Goku and trunks interfering directly completely wiped out an entire multiverse.

The only thing worse that could happen would be a GT throwback super sayan blue great ape

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>How DB time travel works

It was a clusterfuck then and even worse now

Is Shenron more powerful than Zen-Oh in the sense that you can wish Zen-Oh dead?

>>150012859
I'm feeling sick bros. Can't sleep. Give me your energy anons.

>>150013360
It honestly all still makes sense, it just makes for some pretty clunky storytelling

>>150013360
>you can go back in time, but if you change the date on your time machine you don't go back to the same timeline, you go to another, so if you don't change the date on it it doesn't act like a time machine but lets you jump dimensions
>also disregard all of this cause we can just dump you in another point of your time line where there'll be two of you
>also the one above all isn't outside of time

>>150013424
Shenron a bitch he cant grant that wish

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>>150013536
>one above all isn't outside of time
This was major bullshit

>there'll be two of you
IMAGINE

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>>150013536
If Trunks in this 'new' timeline impregnated Mai from the Zamasu'd timeline or vice versa

Is Trunks from the destroyed/new timeline also the father?

>>150013607
If chance arrived would one have sex with them selves?

>>150013751
cutie doge poster pls doge post more

>>150013360
Timelines by themselves are fine as a concept. The problem is that there are too many now, with most getting a bad ending.
That is the result of Trunks' time traveling. Had he not done it, DBZ would be over, to be fair. But only Earth would have been destroyed. Instead, Zen-chan erased everything in the FT timeline. Trunks created a bunch of dark timelines, Zamasu was right.
The only real clusterfuck that doesn't make sense is Black. What came first, him fighting Trunks to make him travel back in time, or Goku fighting Zamasu because Trunks came back?

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explain to me how can whis restore trunks' universe by traveling to it and intervening "before" shit escalated if that certain universe was deleted including its timeline and sense of "before" and "after" certain event

>>150013968
It was beerus who created a new timeline because he killed zamatsu in the present.

>>150014010
Mind explaining how that answers the question?
The Zamasu Goku fought and Black are the same entity.

>>150014068
Whis travels to the future just before beerus kills zamatsu which is the time line that beerus created by killing zamatsu and is able to stop it from happening by informing them of the repercussions it has on the universe. Thus creating a timeline that won't end with king of all destroying entire universe. Zamatsu won't be as powerful and since trunks has gained new found powers is able to stop black and rescue that timeline without goku and vegetas interference. Much like what happened before with buu where they were able to stop the revival by defeating the catalyst that started it all off.
Maybe or something like that

>>150014260
Oh, you are talking about the new timeline? Well, I have no qualms about that, besides them doing it in the first place. But it doesn't introduce inconsistencies.
Meanwhile, the creation of Black as it happened still involves some loop of Black causing Black.

>>150014325
Yeah I'm still trying to work that one out myself.

>>150012935
>12 Beeruses running around
Lord help us

>zeno isn't a insta win gun since he nukes everything
That zeno didn't know goku and didn't have consideration for him, going berserker was not a problem for that zeno. Original zero could listen to his friend Goku and bring an outcome that doesn't fuck up the earth if he's needed again.

>>150013424
He can't kill anyone stronger than dende

>>150014538
Seeing Goku actually react to that like he did felt almost out of his (super) character that's usually slow and stupid.

>>150014553
I wonder, could Shenlong also fail to revive someone stronger than Dende, if that person did not want it?
Because ultimately, dragon balls are magic. If that is tied to fighting ability or some power level, it should go both ways.

>>150014583
I suppose "He can wipe out the entire universe in a blink" sinked deep on Goke

The way Beerus and Whis hyped up Zeno I was expecting his powers to be a "hakai" like thing but faster but it actually took some time for Zeno to charge up. Of course there's literally no way to guard yourself against the attack but still.

>>150014673
They did it like that so Goku could have a daring escape

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Hey ningen, miss me yet?

>>150014924
Yes.

So very much.

Come back to us, Zamasu

Some kind anon give me some zamasu pepes please.

>>150014985
suck me off first please.

>>150013751
If future Trunks from the old timeline bangs future Mai from the new timeline, is future Trunks from the new timeline being cucked?

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>What did he mean by a handful of humans?
>BBUT TOEI FUCKED UP
kek

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>>150015056
What did he mean by you are your own best friend

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4 characters and u7v u6 story
In one dlc pack. with some free content

>>150014010
It was Whis who made it thanks to his time shenanigans. Beerus killing someone doesn't do shit other than them ceasing to exist. Toriyama/Toei is just full of shit, or Whis is secretly evil and shifts the blame on Beerus.

>>150014673
There aren't many people that can escape it. The cast only got away because everyone was packing time machine/rings. Even gods with kai kai from that timeline would be screwed.

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Why is Mai a literal A SHIT without her makeup and contact lenses?

>anime>manga

zamasu reason for taking goku body make more sense in the anime

>>150013203

>>150014583
It's probably because Toriyama likely wrote the actual dialogue for that scene rather than just describing it. The actual Zen'o summoning and reactions likely will be basically identical in the manga.

>>150013203
After watching super 67 of the huge epic fail of trunks and company of protecting "anything"

I remembered
that time goku protected all his friends from vegteta and Nappa?

That time goku saved planet namkeke from genocide and destruction

*Goku being beaten up by the dough boy
*Cell wanting to be his pefect form and killing goku which he actually did.

Then the boo sage really had everyone screwing up one after another.
*Starting with Vegta going evil again and helping review buu
*Goku not killing fatt buu cause he we in no way regreat it.
*Piccolu giving buu the idea of killing time by dealing with other people. Buu impediatly wipes out the human race in like a minute. *Gotenks allowing buu to kill remainder of Z fighters and the human race.
*Gohan playing with super buu and allowing him to adsorb people.
Based Herculue comes in to bail out gokus ass

Goku was trained by over five masters and had decades to fight emiemes each time rising in scale of power

While trunks got the one "master" for what a year? month? Week? ( i forgot) To go upagainst two beings that would make frezia a bitch right off the batt. So he fixs this my training like two years with his father and comes back to cervestomp the andriods and cell and even out powers diaoria and babi and at least for a time aviods the clusterfuck that is the buu saga

>>150015143
4 characters? what are the others? Botamo and Mageta are coming too?

>>150015469
>cause he we in no way regreat it
A lot of typos in there but that was my favorite.

>>150015418
It's more personal due to actually losing to him in battle, but both are basically the same thing (mortal that surpasses him and uses God Ki).

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>>150014000
Trunks/mai were the only survivors in the toriyama script

Trunks going back 2 years is just the best outcome for him.

>>150015056
handful of humans = 5 or less
mai, bulma, trunks is already 3

>>150015056
Actually read the manga's newest chapter. They only find Mai alive. There are no other known survivors right now. There's no resistance or children in the manga which likely means they were entirely Toei creations to extend the story.

>>150015614
>>150015634
>Mangaponies are THIS retarded

>>150015663
retarded? It is literally 5 or less since that is how many you can count with your hand

Or do you actually think a dozen is not 12 as well

>>150015143
Is that Yamcha?

>>150015859
how dare you not recognize the one and only SHGSH

>>150015859
>>150015912
stfu anons you simply don't know any better

>>150014661
yes, Goku

I sort of liked this arc. I could've done without the being defeated and running away twice thing but overall it was nice.

Now one question remains:
Was Gohan training while they were away or was he out of breath because he had to fly there in a rush to catch Trunks leaving?

>>150015469
>vegteta
>namkeke
>boo sage
>Herculue
>frezia
Too busy holding my sides to understand what you even meant.

>>150015483
Either Botamo and Mageta or Zamasu and Fusion Zamasu (maybe Gowasu?)

Just kill the alternate future trunks and mai. Simple.
Actually it's not simple, this is why I fucking hate time travel multiverse theory, it just makes everything so useless.

So if Goku didn't go back would Zen-Oh just be floating around in emptiness forever?

Where were his 2 bodyguards and that universe's WissDad?

Does new Zen-Oh have any power in universe 7? If he wanted to delete Zen-Oh7 could he?

>>150015968
>So if Goku didn't go back would Zen-Oh just be floating around in emptiness forever?
Yes

>Where were his 2 bodyguards and that universe's WissDad?
He destroyed EVERYTHING anon, there's nothing left

>Does new Zen-Oh have any power in universe 7? If he wanted to delete Zen-Oh7 could he?
Universe!=Parallel Timeline

>>150015912
Sure anon, they didnt give the red eyes form to Piccolo even if is a form canon to the games, but they'll surely create a new one for the humans

>>150015930
Wasn't that because he said "actually, you guys, don't revive me"? Did they get to use the wish for something else?
Either way, I mean a case of Shenlong actually trying, and failing because "oops, that guy is more powerful than Dende, can't do that."

>>150016029
I call him universe 7 because saying timeline of universe 7 is a mouthful.

The message is the same, does the damn new Zen-Oh have any power in the current timeline.

>>150016042
i thought i told you to STFU anon just sit there and drink your orange juice like a good fuccboi

>>150016062
But that's not what you meant. You clearly said if the person was stronger and didn't want it.

>>150016067
>saying timeline of universe 7 is a mouthful.
That's still incorrect anon. Trunks timeline was also universe 7. But the answer is probably. Considering Beerus was able to Hakai Zamasu while in universe 10 Zeno should still be able to delete anything he wants.

In the end, trunks lost everything, only go to a new timeline because of mai.

How can dragon ball take this situation so lightly, i don't know how this will be done in the manga but toyotaro lost my trust toward him since he has keep in the new chapter the "goku no kiss" so....

>>150015943
There are 4 DLC packs, I don't think they'd mix the Trunks story stuff into a U6 pack.

>>150016073
O-okay sorry

>>150016124
fuccboi zip it.

>>150016114
I don't know if that's Toriyama's decision or just Toei interpretation, either way it feels like no one sat down and analyzed the consequences and almost creepy implications of that outcome.

I fucking hate Zeno. Am I the only one who hates that a retard moe blob child is the strongest thing in the universe?

It's so fucking stupid. They need to use the super dragon balls to wish this fucker out of existence in the future.

>>150016132
good boy.

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>>150013829

>>150016083
Well, I had typed out a longer post before that which should have been clearer and decided not to open a larger can of worms, but decided to post that instead.
What I was getting at was that "can't wish to kill someone stronger than Dende" is bullshit, because magical powers like reviving people do not seem to be tied to a fighting power level. And if they are, conversely someone who is stronger than Dende should be able to "resist" being revived against his will if he wanted to do that.

>>150016160
based cutie doge poster is back pls post more.

>>150016114
I think people are losing focus of the issue here. Goku always was goofy and Toriyama had mentioned Goku (and most Saiyans, with Vegeta being an exception) have no concept of romantic love a while ago.

The problem with Goku's characterization in the anime is that he was goofy way too often, forgetting stuff all the time and just being dumb. One scene like that once in a while doesn't undo his character at all.

>>150016114
>How can dragon ball take this situation so lightly
I mean, we got him crying about how he failed to protect his world. They just tried to make it bittersweet rather than outright depressing since it's pretty much his goodbye from the series again.

>>150012859
DBZ is fucking stupid and you all need to go back to /v/

Post sexy his

>>150016150
Zeno is fucking adorable, don't hate.

>>150015614
>Trunks/mai were the only survivors

That's fucking dark and makes the whole thing hopeless. Why fight if there's nobody worth fighting for?

Not like he's got dragon balls to wish everybody back. He's better off just going to the past and living there forever.

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>>150016178

>>150016145
Going by the manga's last chapter, I think it's going to be Toriyama's interpretation, but the difference is that in his outline there was barely anything to save in the future from the very beginning. Toei added the resistance, children and likely the Genki Dama Sword which made the loss much more tragic, but without dealing with the consequences.

>>150016204
>Why fight if there's nobody worth fighting for?
There are still other planets and universes to protect from Black before going to live in the main timeline.
Assuming that Zamasu went to Earth first and didn't kill everything else beforehand, that is.

>>150016215
dang that cutie doge looks so confident wow

>>150016204

There might be survivors elsewhere, but they aren't really sure.

>>150016216
I mean more the fact they had to move to another timeline with almost identical versions of them already living there. How do you cope with such situation? Going back to alternate version of the world you failed to save, with your duplicates around that actually are the originals in that world. That's creepy. Staying in the present would make much more sense.

>>150016282
>with your duplicates around that actually are the originals in that world. That's creepy
Is it creepier if they are kids?
Seems someone does not want Future Trunks to stick along any further.

>>150016236
i'm curious too if Earth was his first target or his Last.

He did talk like killing earth's human was the final step of his plan.

>>150016282
I mean, Zen'o and Zamasu seem to hang around pretty well with alt. timeline selves. It doesn't seem like Toriyama sees that as a big issue.

>>150016312
While the kids are still the same people, they have different history from them, different upbringing, different family situation, witnessed completely different events that shaped them to be overall different individuals. There is also a big age difference. All that makes interacting with them way less creepy compared to almost identical version of themselves that fill the same role in their world as you did in yours - and we are talking about staying in a situation like that for life.

Broly soon

>>150016450
>tfw this anon will never say hi back to you
*SIGH*

>>150016335
Zeno has mentality of a child, and in case of Zamasu while the mind was the same, Goku's appearance (and more flamboyant behavior) made it less striking.

Mai and Trunks are more complex case, especially after their failure.

>>150015469
>namkeke

>>150016420
Well, Trunks and Mai have gone to hell together, and that should have already made them different people. But it's still some kind of swamp-man scenario and pretty creepy, I agree. Though it could also turn into something very kinky.

>>150016202
He's not adorable. He's ugly. He's like what you'd see at a supermarket, some spoiled kid on the floor beating his fists into the grounds and screeching. Not cute at all.

>>150013751
Yes, they have the same genes.

>>150015634
This. And Bulma already died and Mai was the only survivor they found.

>>150016532
Shut up Zamasu, stay deleted.

>>150015362
That eye makeup was awful. Only the lipstick looks good. But overall, she looks better without makeup.

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Why is this even celebrated as a victory?
The future they tried to save is fucking dead. Everyone is dead. All gods are dead. The planet blew up.
All went to shit. They now escaped to another timeline which is what they could have done all along. They lost.

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So who is sexiest girl?

>>150016619
How isn't he?

>>150016638
>they could have escaped all along
That timeline was way too fucked up to be saved. But they couldn't just let Zamasu live, he had access to time rings and could fuck up other timelines.

>>150016638
To be fair, Zamasu's powers were about to shit on timeline borders. He had to be erased in that timeline. But yeah, they fucked up. They cheated and needed Zeno to end it. Goku also abducted the probably last remaining deity that could potentially have fixed things to live with another version of himself.

>>150016638
>Why is this even celebrated as a victory?
It's not?

Trunks clearly states that he failed.

It's not a victory and nobody sees it as such.

Can Zeno kill Future Zeno?

>>150016923
They're the exact same person and have the same power level. If anything it would be a stalemate.

>>150016772
>Goku also abducted the probably last remaining deity that could potentially have fixed things to live with another version of himself.

Zen o didn't care about Zamasu being Zamasu, so why the hell do you think he would repair the universe again.

>>150017018

He could have told him that there were really fun games on earth

>>150016962
It was stated they don't have a power level. Zeno is beyond that shit he doesn't fight he just deletes.

>>150016502
>Though it could also turn into something very kinky.
w-what do you mean by this anon

>>150016204
They still have to deal with Black/Zamasu before leaving that timeline.

>Playing Dragon Ball Fusions
>Go to get Dragon Ball
>Pilaf Machine is there
>It has 5 already
>Trunks says he doesn't like the idea of taking the dragon ball from Mai, so we're not going to fight
>"Thanks Trunks!"
Cute!

So why did ZimZam gygas? Was this ever explained? It just kind of happens.

>>150017589
>why does Zamasu do all of this multiverse level shit when he is a newfag supreme kai and Buu ate those for breakfast
"because angery"

>>150017589

I just wrote a reply here.
>>150017605

>>150016638
>There is a timeline where Trunks went back to the past, got the blueprints, came back, disabled and destroyed the androids, but then got killed and have his time-machine hijacked by Cell, leaving the worlds with nothing but regular humans and no Saiyans or special fighters.

>Now there is a timeline where all signs of life or authority is gone.

In the end, one timeline actually managed to get darker than the darkest timeline that we knew of.

I also wonder if the Goku that got killed along with Chi-Chi and Goten ended up getting revived by the Dragon Balls or not.

>>150013100
Change the title to Zero Human Plan and it's done

>>150017658
>I also wonder if the Goku that got killed along with Chi-Chi and Goten ended up getting revived by the Dragon Balls or not.
Why not? Goku Black seems to have left that timeline immediately afterwards. The only issue would be recovering Goku's body, but they could use the Super Dragonballs to create a copy body or something, I guess.

Zamasu should have become zeno friend

>>150017756
hi

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upcoming Raditz and Bardock comeback, fellow anons.

>>150017756
Oh, Zeno-sama! Do you know what would be so fun?
Destroying all those FUCKING NIGNEN, I FUCKING HATE THEM, REEE
I think Zeno would get sick of him fast.

>>150018041
I want a Raditz redemption arc so bad. I'm hoping he could become the 2nd side character

>>150015956
>Actually it's not simple, this is why I fucking hate time travel multiverse theory, it just makes everything so useless.
They should have gone on space/time adventures instead. Get Whis to bring back that timeline anyway, since they want to bring back all the people they care about, but realise that having two of them is retarded, then fuck off on your own thing. Fuck, even stay in the present

>>150018041
Is that for the game?

>>150018115
That's just for DB Heroes.

Why wasn't trunks born with a tail?

>>150017708
Yeah, that is what I was thinking of myself. Possible issues with that is nobody knowing what the hell happened to Goku and his family, except for maybe when Whis and Beerus start investigating.

Even then so, I don't know if they'd do well collecting the Super Dragonballs in time after finding out the issue with him dying in Zamasu's body and all that.

>>150016638
>All gods are dead.
Did Zeno wipe his own posse as well? Is Whis & Vados' dad dead?

>>150018145
Tails are a recessive trait.

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>>150018145
>The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.
>http://web.archive.org/web/20111104071121/http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz04.php?m=02&id=race#link

>>150018041
>Raditz gets SSJ3
>Nappa still doesn't get shit

>>150018182
>Did Zeno wipe his own posse as well?
They didn't go after him when Goku went there, so, yeah, the implication is that they were destroyed too.

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>>150016483
>>150016450

not him but hi anon

also dont request the legendary super saiyan for this shitty show of DB super, maybe manga buts thats all because toei cant do anything but milk a series from nostalgia and hiring cheap Filipino animators

>>150013071
Probably a hypothetical fusion from DB Heroes of Beerus and Whis.

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>>150018252
Maybe it's for the better

>>150013100
COME ON GET DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS
GET DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS
OH WA AH AH NINGEN

>>150018115
it's from the same game that gave us super 17+18, ssj4 Gohan, ssj3 future trunks,and Baby Janemba

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>>150018192

>>150018344
>ssj4 Gohan
So all of Heroes is Gohan's dream?

>>150016638
>Why is this even celebrated as a victory?

Because they stopped Zamasu from infecting ALL the universes in ALL the timelines.

Do you fags not understand what Beerus and Whis sensing Zamasu's influence FROM the Future INTO THE PAST means?

>>150016772
>Goku also abducted the probably last remaining deity that could potentially have fixed things to live with another version of himself.
If Zeno didn't bother recreating those 6 universes he already wrecked, I doubt Zeno would bother recreating 12 or 18 universes.

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>>150014985

>>150018483
>actually spoonfeeding him
dirty ningen detected

I hope the next GoD is really polite, or even super autistic about his job. Either way is fine. I think it'd be funny to see one fidgeting with a calculator trying to determine how much they need to wipe out for maximum galactic efficiency.

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>>150018541
do you think the other GoD will keep the egyptian theme?

>>150018509
Legit autist detected

>>150018612
I think they will, it's not like they're going to run out of Egyptian gods any time soon.

>>150018612
I just hope they aren't all cats. Kai from other universes being just like the U7 Kai don't give me much confidence.

>>150018612
>next GoD is based on Kek

anyone else find it funny that basically none of the fans give a fuck about chiaotzu? he wasnt he in xenoverse 2 and i have not seen a single complaint lol

>>150018612
>>150018732
>Crocodilian GoD
Please gimme that

>>150018612
Nah I hope Toriyama draws from other mythologies like norse gods, greek gods etc

>>150016638
The main timeline is a clone of the original timeline that was created when Trunks first went back when he was 18. By that logic, none of this shit matters anyway.

>>150015710
I don't know why you think the experession " a handful of something" has a direct japanese equivalent and anyways people refer to more than 5 things but still a relatively small amount as a handful all the time.

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>>150018762
nobody has ever actually liked him. They just tolerated him because they like Tien

>>150018509
>posting a a pepe I've had in my folder for a while when some one requests it in a kind manner

I thought Zeno deleted you Zamasu

>>150018802
seems like it. i do like the relationship with tien and chiaotzu but chiaotzu on his own is meh.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNzYYFL7rU0
>Goku's kids will never refer to Vegeta as "uncle Vegeta"
I feel like it'd have been a nice little side gag/ongoing joke

>>150012859
DARN YOO GAGAROK
YOO WIRL NEWOR DEFURT MUH PROIDE OF BE SAYUM PRANCE

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Shit was surprisingly dark for a sunday morning cartoon.

>>150018936
he looks like a watermelon

>>150012859
then we can bury that shitty arc for good.

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----OFFICIAL BLACK TRIBUTE VIDEO----

https://youtu.be/X2jbWmGxQ54

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>be a highly paid animator for one of japans most successful animation studios
>produce this garbage

I get it that they want to cash in on DB, but come on...

>>150019067
i nearly threw a fit when i seen this shit

>>150019077
Are you autistic?

>>150019044
10/10

>>150018347
Gohan is saying Trunks will get better then him, this is not revolutionary Gohan has only 1 arm.

>>150019044
fucking kek

>>150018795
We need the japanese scans to see how he says it, but in the korean he says that "few people are left".

>>150015968
He'd probably start to remake the whole universe.

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Alright /a/ I decided to watch the Potaufeu arc, I skipped it due to it being unnecessary to view since all it is is filler to transition from the tournament into the Future Trunks arc and I begin watching Super once 47 aired. Here is what I thought as I watched.

+New planet in Universe 7 to explore
+Jaco having his little time to shine
+Vegeta criticizing the copy and Goku at the same time was funny
+Vegeta realizing he was chewing on a pacifier was funny (At least for me with Vegeta being an alien and all)
+Radio host reading Monaka's letter and watching Monaka be all smug and the host making it awkward between Jaco and Vegeta in his spaceship was funny
+Goten and Trunks fighting and fusing and trying their best (Hey, if the copy might as well be Vegeta himself then I can see Gotenks failing against Vegeta)
+Trunks and Vegeta bonding with Trunks wanting to save Vegeta while Vegeta trying to save Trunks
+Superhuman Water is an interesting concept in that it absorbs the combat and being of whomever it copies and kills them off to ensure that the copy becomes the "real" one.
-rushed
-dragged on in some bits such as the gang looking to destroy the core but then running away instead of trying to charge at the superhuman water and break the core

Overall: Not the bee's knees but as a first time sitting, sure I liked it. Nothing I would re-watch if I were to watch this series in its entirety once its complete but I thought it was interesting. I thought another Vegeta going back to being evil concept would be bad but I can forgive it since they explain the goo copied his will and thus his desire to be better than Goku and besides its not on the level of Majin Vegeta.

Tell me how my taste is shit now.

>>150019067
They didn't have much time to animate this episode. Based on the credits, basically every animator for this episode also worked in the last couple of weeks.

Why does the God of all need bodyguards?
How strong are the bodyguards? Stronger than him? Stronger than at least Goku and Black? Else they're shitty bodyguards

>>150019372
They aren't 'bodyguards', they're called 'attendants' by the credits like Whis.

>>150019356
I fucking loved Darkkmane's antics in this arc.

So any bets on who hires Hit to kill Goku?

>>150019516
A salty retard who lost a bet/ his pride with the baseball event.

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>>150019044
I love you so much anon, I imagined a tribute video with this exact song.
You are too good for this planet.

>>150019067
Highly paid? Anyway, when you have schedule problems, you have no choice but to crank out shit like that.

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>Yamcha has not jobbed in nearly 25 years
>Vegeta continues to job to this day
What did Toriyama mean by this?

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>>150019044
Also relevant, and I still think this video is one of the greatest things we got out of that arc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lw2HklA-WA

>>150019614
BUT I NEED THE ANIMATION I SEE THROUGH QUESTIONABLE MEDIAS TO BE ABSOLUTE PERFECT!!!
MUH GLORIOUS CHILHOOD!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE e

>>150019660
When you get almost as irrelevant as Launch because the plot is demanding it, is hard to shine, and 2 seconds after, job.

>>150019044
>Didn't show the ningen cabin
>Didn't show them having tea together
>Didn't show him stabbing Vegeta, Kicking Trunk's ass, "killing" Mai, etc
Was really good, but missed opportunities

>>150019660
You need to compare jobbing/screentime to be fair.

>>150019667
No one cares about Dragon Ball Spic.

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>>150019784
When Yamcha and Bulma are not on screen, what do you think they're doing? Yamcha was her first. He has plenty of screen-time anyway, even in the Buu arc, he just doesn't fight because he's onto bigger and better things. Meanwhile Vegeta shows up, says something cocky, then jobs.

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>no vegito

>>150012935
>Are all the other GoDs also purple cats?
God, help

>>150019516
Can't he break out from his character

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Is there a newer version of this?

>>150019044
too soon ;_;

>>150019845
I didn't say you would come up with a different result.

>>150019845
Yeah, keep telling you that, silly Yamuchafag

>>150019858
>wanting autistic and by default inaccurate fan-made powerlevel charts

So you can win your autistic arguments with "The guys on /a/ think this, so it has to be right!".

You should consider a very painful suicide

>>150019905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBNXBUjYysU
How do you think that Diamond fits in her vag, lad? That's Yamcha's doing. He fucking destroyed her. I wonder if Saiyan woman are this loose. Vegeta goes down quite quickly on sloppy seconds. He even jobs in romance.
"It's bigger than the sun"

>>150019356
>Tell me how my taste is shit now.

At least you know.

>>150019932
Saitama can beat everyone.

Even Zen'o.

>>150019973
Nope, Saitama is Nappa tier.

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So was he /ourguy/?

>>150019961
But without knowing why :^)

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"Leave Zeno to me, son"

>>150019614
That's why i prefer OPM's animation.
They produce their stuff in advance and it looks gorgeous.
And their budget is about the same

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>>150019858
here but i did not add ssjb vegito in yet

>>150016150
Let me guess, you want a super buff human looking guy with flowing white hair and a black robe to be Zeno right?

>>150020159
I think you should add Time/4d Zamasu (the one that was trying to become the universe or some shit)
also bump up the Black Arc characters that are stuck in S tiers a little bit

>>150019660
What is he supposed to job?
Goten and Trunks are as far ahead in strength as Vegeta was to Yajirobe when he first visited earth.

You know in old movies when there was a bar brawl and one guy whacks the other with a chair, but the other guy just holds his head for a second and then oneshots the chair guy?
Yamcha is the chair guy in that scenario.

And SSJ Gotenks didn't even come CLOSE to SSJ2 Vegeta in BOG.
Yamcha couldn't even dream of jobbing hits from, say Beerus, Zamasu, Hit or even Magetta.
I'd say even Frost outclasses him by ages.

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>>150012859
Good riddance, what an absurdly terrible arc.
I can't believe someone looked over the script for the last episode and though "this is good".

>tfw Yayirobe and all the surviving humans including the children were murdered and their universe destroyed, and no one gives a fuck because Zen Chan got his own clone so neither of them will be virgins anymore.

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I know I was late to the party, but damn this scene is too funny. I've been chuckling for the last 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJ2Yj3et_Y

>These fucking awkwardly recycled shots

Holy shit Toei, have some self respect.

>>150015465
>Everything bad is Toei or Toyotable, everything good is toriyama

Must be nice having such fans.

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>>150020328
Eighter had the same stance and expression for the span of, like, 4 episodes. It's really funny.
And we just eat up their shit

So what WAS Trunks Broly Mode?

I keep seeing people playing Toriyama for everything

I thought he was hands off on this like GT , he is just doing some character designs and general ideas about how the gods work

He doesnt write for the Manga or the Anime

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>>150020382
>>150020328

>>150020391
it's just a Pseudo SSJB.

>>150020318
>that fucking deformed head
>fucking super mario out of nowhere
>suddenly hit
???

>>150020416
He writes the plot outlines for the manga and anime.

will the assassin be Hit or Tao Pai Pai?

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>>150020416
Toriyama's alleged involvement is the only thing that keeps people deluded that DBS is good.
So when something retarded and terrible happens, they have to blame Toei as hard as they can to hold on to their sanity.

>>150020125
This can work for 12 episode anime, but of course it'd take much more time for 67.
The One Piece anime has the same problem, though catching up with the manga is just another problem on top of that. I wouldn't mind longer breaks if it meant improved quality.

>>150020446
>Tao Pai Pai

Huh.

I had not thought about that. That would be completely in line with the bait and switch humor Toriyama loves.

Hype the assassin up to all hell, everyone takes for granted it's Hit, the day finally comes, and it's Tao Pai Pai.

Brilliant.

>>150020237
i'm not the original owner of the chart don't have the god tier to c tier template cause moving things around would make it all a messy and ugly.

>>150020464
See, the thing is Tao Pai Pai is actually cool. Since Super is fucking terrible, good things like that won't happen.
Enjoy your purple dickhead incompetent timestopper.

>>150020391
Ultra Super Saiyan?

It was a shitty form that was too slow so he stopped using it

>>150020481
The ones in the S tier/black arc are all in their own block, shouldn't be hard man, just ctrl+x and paste, move them up a lil bit and bam.

>>150020513
Other Broly Mode

>>150020429
We really know that little?

It did partly have the blue aura

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>>150020513
He was talking about this mode.

>>150019356
I liked it too.

We need more Monaka, that guy is weird.

>>150020537
Plot-Powered Super Saiyan.
Not the highest powerlevel, but completely undefeatable.

so, could Devil man kill Zeno?

>>150020391
It appears to be a Trunks HULKSMASH mode SSJ2 where Trunks takes special care to rein in the absurd musclemass to retain his speed.

Whereas Gohan, Vegeta and Goku all stuck to gaining new transformations to gain more power, Trunks took a lesson from Goku's book and refined what he already had.

>>150020572
Isn't Devilman dead?

IIRC, he got killed by Satan and Satan was all "Noooo, I killed my best friend, why didn't you join me?"

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> tfw Black is gone forever
> tfw Yoka Yoka Dance is gone forever

honestly I don't the point of watching this anymore

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>>150020710
There wasn't one in the first place, besides laughing at how bad it is.

I'll admit though, Black and Mai fooled me into thinking this was the arc that would finally be good. I didn't think it would be worse than S17.

>>150020710
>we had Yoka dance taken away from us for le ebin food song

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>>150020710
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T78xO5fz0w is gone too

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The animation is finally good they said
DBS is good now they said

>>150020774
>haha if i give a contrarian opinion maybe my buddies at le /a/ will give me (you)'s xDD

>>150020816
Anon I hate to tell you this, but "DBS sucks" isn't the contrarian opinion anymore.

>>150020861
He must be talking about the "worse than S17" part.

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>suddenly the sky becomes ZAMASU
>nuke the fuck out of his asspull face, leave that shithole of a universe last minute
>"uuh, wanna go back Trunks?"
>"lol sure why not"
>randomly pick up Zenno-kun because can't go back empty handed
>introduce him to his past self to make this whole mess go full circle
>mfw I don't even know what the fuck's going on anymore but everything went better than expected

>>150020886
Well, I rewatched GT recently and it's my honest opinion, but it is just an opinion.

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This is your next opponent.

>>150020915
>>randomly pick up Zenno-kun because can't go back empty handed
>>introduce him to his past self to make this whole mess go full circle
>>mfw I don't even know what the fuck's going on anymore but everything went better than expected

This whole thing
Why even do that? That's all kinds of horrifically dangerous, all because Goku is a lying shit who won't honor his promises.

>>150020861
It never was

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>>150020915
>call for Goku to help me deal with this mysterious individual killing everyone on Earth
>not only is he directly responsible for said individual to exist, but he also ends up having the whole multiverse nuked

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So is Gowasu swimming in time rings now? Does only Gowasu get corrup time rings, are they split between Gowasu and the Nameless Kaioshin?
Or does each Kaioshin get a copy of the 2 dozen new rings created in this terrible arc?

Dragonball Canon needs the Kai of Time really really badly.

>>150020994
>but he also ends up having the whole multiverse nuked

That was Cuncks' fault.

>>150020953
I don't know man. I can't even describe the perplexity I felt this whole episode, I know it's best to turn off your head watching this but there should be a limit for such ridiculousness.

>>150020994
>Letting the Supreme die so there is no god of destruction.
>Going back to the past which triggered the
>Failed finishing Zamasu even after the entire world gave you its power
>Forgetting that Zamasu was leaking in to the present
events of Goku meeting Zamasu.
as expected from a timeline fleeing pussy always shifting the blame.

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>Mai doesn't even say hi to Pilaf and Shuuh

Wow, COLD.
Also, that fucking resolution.

>Hello Future Trunks Timeline
>We're losers from your future where we managed to let the universe be destroyed.
>Can we freeload here a while?

That said, Trunks and Mai are gonna have some fun fucking time clone sex from then on.

>>150020994
Don't blame Goku anon, there was no other way to win. That timeline was fucked beyond repair. It's Zamasu's fault for being such an autistic faggot.

>>150021196
Maybe something happened between Mai and Pilaf/Shu and she hates them.

>Guys Zamasu is no longer immortal because he fused!
>Literally vaporize him
>Doesn't die

Wow good call, you fucking idiots.

Am I the only one who feels like the next episode won't be that good, at least based on the preview?

I mean, it's nice that Goku finally remembered that king Kai is dead thanks to him, but why the fuck would EVERYONE want to wish for something right now? It's not like they don't know that Dragonballs exist, and they have access to the radar. There's also at least two wishes so why the fuck are they getting greedy now?

Also, isn't this like the fourth time earth DBs have been used in Super? Did they forget the time limit or can they summon Shenlong whenever?

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>"I will protect the future!"
>Future gets wiped out and Trunks is fine helping the person (Zeno) who did it get back
What did he mean by this?

>>150021315
>Zamasu is no longer immortal
Did they say that? Pretty sure they referenced Black's body being mortal, hence it totally makes sense that the body would be destroyed without regenerating, but Zamasu persisting. In this case, covering the sky, looking like Giygas.

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>Zamasu fuses with Goku Black
>becomes half-ningen
>dies like the ningen swine he is
>spreads his ningen germs across the galaxy so hard the multiverse gets fucked

Reminder he planned it all since day one

5
D
CHESS

I know everyone has been talking about how sad it is that everyone was erased from existence including the afterlife in Future Trunks' timeline, but Zamasu probably already killed all the ningen in the afterlife anyway right?

what fucking ending was that even? why not try to convince the god of that universe "hey can you please restore the universe to where it was before black came in and fucked it all?" why was this never thought of?

>>150021388
No, why would he? They stop being Ningen in the afterlife and become immortal spirits.

>>150021356
You can summon Shenlong only 4 months after his last appearance if you didn't use all of the wishes.

Plus, we're already like 5 years in the 10-year gap, anon. Pan was 4-years old by EoZ.

>>150021432
>Plus, we're already like 5 years in the 10-year gap, anon.
BRA WHEN

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>was so OP they needed to destroy the universe to get rid of him

Will anyone in the DBverse ever top Zamasu's feats and autism?

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>>150021432
They were fucking raffling wishes in Bulma's birthday party. They really should not exactly have a shortage of those at this point. Especially since now they have the Super Dragon Balls and the Namek Dragon Balls for emergencies.

Looks like the wishes will be really stupid too, I bet 18 will want to wish for money. I'm juping the gun a little, but my preemptive thanks to Toei for ruining the last unsoiled thing in the Franchise.

>>150021356
18, Roshi, Gohan and Bulma want to make a wish for Shenlong, but he can't grant all of them.

>>150021388
He killed everyone in all the universes, even the fucking gods. If he died and all those survivors were still alive, they would be the only living beings in existence.

>>150021411
Goku asked Zeno to erase Zamasu, Zeno erased everything. He would have erased them too if they didn't get away in time. Why do you think he would remake the universe for the people that fucked it up to begin with?

>>150021196
>>Mai doesn't even say hi to Pilaf and Shuuh
Thought the same, what kind of bullshit bad writing is this? It's not even like they forgot because kid Mai was literally standing there with those two faggots, it's just that they didn't think interaction would be nessecary. Seriously, is there a show with worse writing around currently? I thought it can only get better after random jedi lightsabers but this episode managed to set an alltime low somehow.

>>150021411
>Can you erase him?
>I'll erase this world
>But can't you remake it before B-
>ERASE EVERYTHING
There. Happy now?

>>150016638
Man this shit is kinda dark even for Dragonball.

>>150021509
>>150021544
Sure I guess but my biggest issue is they didn't even try

Plus they could have told Zeno in their universe "Hey can you tell this Zeno that we're really cool people and he should remake Trunks' universe?"

Zeno of our universe might help out Goku because that one likes Goku

>>150016638
Trunks did everything he could and still ended up saving all the other timelines, just not his own.

He can't do anything else but move on.

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>Beerus actually has the gall to say "Don't Rely on Gods so much" when the whole problem was literally caused by a god and only allowed to continue happening because Beerus is too lazy and Whis is too incompetent to wake the stupid cat up to prevent his own destruction via the Kaioshin's death.

BRAVO TOEI/TORI/TOYO

>>150021656
Trunks didn't save anything, all their efforts made everything so much worse that goku had to hit the delete button.

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This could have been the perfect opportunity to introduce the Supreme Kai of Time.

Instead of having Trunks & Mai go to ANOTHER timeline and basically trying to make sure they don't meet themselves, Whis should have just said something along the lines of "Too bad kid, your timeline is gone. But since you fucked around with time so much, you know the shit that comes with it. I know someone who'd appreciate that."
Cue taking them to the Supreme Kai of Time and Time Patrol Trunks. Clean-ish resolution.

>>150021677
>Beerus
>giving a fuck
>ever

>>150021627
>my biggest issue is they didn't even try
Him refusing them after pleading would make this even darker than it is. Plus, he'd probably go "what? I will destroy you, too."
They might ask Zen-chan from the main timeline, but I am not sure they could explain in a way that makes him understand, and not be pissed at time travel at the same time. Despite the fact that FT-timeline Zen-chan apparently didn't mind traveling with the time machine, though he probably didn't know what it was and what happened.

>>150021720
Then Mai would appear in Xenoverse and we'd have gun super attacks. Take my money.

>>150021743
The thing is he's not even written to not give a fuck, he's just too stupid and useless so he appears to not give a fuck.

>>150021677
Where is the fun in Beerus just erasing the villain?

>>150021720
yeah, I prefer that more than this stupid shit

>>150021720
I was hoping for her to pop up after Zeno destroys everything and be like "Tough shit, Trunks. Want to come with me and prevent such thing from happening again?"

But it wasn't meant to be.

>>150021779
>The thing is he's not even written to not give a fuck, he's just too stupid and useless so he appears to not give a fuck.

Nah he just doesn't give a fuck about anything other than training Goku/Vegeta because he sees flickers of potential.

>>150021787
Don't introduce logical ways to get out of the problem if you don't want to use them: this is as bad as those harem manga where the protagonist has literally no reason to refuse free sex and would probably save the world if he had free sex, but still doesn't.

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Lads. Yamcha IS Bardock, as evidence her is a picture of Yamcha superimposed upon Bardock. Notice that the scars line up perfectly. Sometime between the Hunt for the Dragon Balls and the Budokai Tenkaichi Yamcha returned to his Saiyan home planet and fought in many missions. He used the Dragon Balls to return himself to youth (he knew about them from Bulma), Yamcha doesn't want to overshadow his own son Goku so he pretends not to have the power of the Super Saiyan inside. Just like any Saiyan Yamcha enjoys a good fight, realizing however that he was an artifact of a bygone age he elected to leave the doings to the younger people. Gohan and Goten are his sons. That's how he knows to cut off Goku's tail when he rampages in Pilaf's Castle.

>>150021720
Why aren't you writing for Super?

>>150021823
>Nah he just doesn't give a fuck
He is clearly shown worried and giving a fuck. He's just in a show that's too poorly written to do anything about it.

Guys, what if the incoming tournament will have a reward like zeno allowing a wish, then if goku or vegeta ( or trunks ) win this tournament, they can ask " please restore Future timeline "

What do you think /a/?

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>>150021720
>Random anon in a vietnamese crotcheting board can write a better resolution to the arc in 5 minutes than the professional paid writers of Dragon Ball Super including the original creator could and did.

>>150021870
That you're deluded.

They never gave enough of a fuck to try to help fix the future timeline despite having plenty of ways to do it, like Goku going to the future to help find New Namek for new dragon balls.

>>150021720
>>150021904
Xenoverse is SHIT why don't you understand that.

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He's the end boss, right?

>>150018936
>Destruction rains from the heavens!

>>150021720
>>150021904

I feel the only reason that didn't happen is because Trunks has blue hair now.

>>150021954
Can't wait for 12 Universe spirit bomb to decimate this spoiled little shit.

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/a/, I found out my oneitis has a boyfriend through stalking her Normiebook.

What do I do?

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>go to kanzenshuu
>literally everyone shitting on Gohan to the point where it's autistic

at least people in /a/ would enjoy an arc where Gohan is actually cool

on Kanzenshuu, those fucking autistic weebs would probably hate it regardless because it doesn't fit their "lore" and character thesis'

>>150021993
Who needs 12 universes when 7 half starved humans and 2 half-dead saiyans can pool enough energy to kill a supergod fusion?

>>150021779
Also Mai and Supreme Kai of Time shenanigans. Imagine that.

>>150021797
>>150021851
>>150021904
Honestly though, I still cannot believe Toei/Toriyama couldn't have come up with something along the lines of this. Its so simple and should be the first thing that comes to your mind when thinking of sorting out time-travel fuckery. I wonder if the Xenoverse team and DBS had issues and they couldn't use the Xenoverse ideas somewhere along the line in production, because even this currently resolution seems pretty last minute.

>>150021936
May be, but we don't need Xenoverse itself, just set the premise up in Super, and have it not brought up again in the anime.

>>150021996
I don't know what those normie terms even mean.

>>150021954
>can erase their entire universe
He won't be called ever again

>>150022003
gohan will never be relevent ever again

he is a stay at home dad cuck while videl goes out and makes money

stop deluding yourself

>>150022070

(you)

>>150012859
And he took his whole shitty arc with him.

Good riddance, memecharacter.

>>150022070
t. Kenzenshuucuck

>>150021996
don't have a oneitis to begin with

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>>150022089
>>150022092

Aren't you tired of holding hands with everyone by now?

>>150019044
That's literally this video with a different song kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDIUzbEcbJA

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>>150021996
WATCH IT, ZAMASS.

>>150022127
No. It's a pure display of love.

Why is Chi-Chi such a humongous absolute thundercunt?

>>150022003
I wouldn't enjoy an arc with Gohan because Gohan is a faggot.

Sorry anon, but it's true.

>>150021677
Beerus is based. That's all.

The setup for a Xenoverse story in the show woukd have had potential.
The story being a group of inexperienced Saiyans, humans, Namek, Frieza, buu etc under the guidance of Time Kai and Trunks stopping the Time Breakers from screwing up Dragonball history.

>>150022003
What are they saying?

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>childhood is liking this shitty arc where everything was about the green pineapple Zamasu and his shallow goal
>adulthood is realizing that Goku Black should have been an actual Goku who was corrupted by Zamasu as an instrument of destruction, before turning on him and destroying Zamasu utterly

The future trunks arc is decent (apart from containing future trunks)

But damn does it get annoying how they come up with an excuse to explain how the time traveling and bodysnatching works again and again every two episodes.

It's not that complicated, holy shit.

>>150022192
This. I never liked Gohan, so an arc featuring him would be boring.

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>>150016657
Vados.

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>>150022311
dubs speak truth

>>150022311
That looks like Spacezin's work, but Vados isn't crushing testicles so it can't be theirs.

Who drew this?

>Gohan killed Cell in 1993
>Over 20 years ago since the only time he was relevant
>Think he will ever do anything again
>B-but what about Mystic Gohan?! Where he didn't manage to defeat anyone and got his ass kicked still!

NEVER
EVER

How come shonen protags are all evil? Nartuo protects Sasuke and Orochimaru from prosecution, Bleachman works for the SS where they murder and experiment on people, Goku hangs around with people who murder trillions of people just for the fun of it, and Luffy is a pirate (fucking thief). When will it end?

>>150022397
It is Spacejin's

>>150022432
>getting this frustrated over a character in a Chinese children's cartoon

Didn't give a fuck about Gohan five minutes ago, but now that I know he makes you piss your pants in fury I might like him.

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What does Bulma needs a time machine for?

>>150020537

Full power Ultra SSJ2.

One of the drawbacks of USSJ was it slowed Trunks down because of his increased muscle mass.

This new form compresses all the extra raw power from USSJ, into Trunk's base SSJ2 form, without him having to lose any speed.

>>150022432

Gohan haters once again proving their unrivaled autism

get a grip dude

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tell me you filthy ningens about the sins you have committed and I shall purge them

>>150022469
She's gonna wish for coordinates. Duh.

>>150022464
But Vados isn't crushing anyone's testicles, that can't be true.

>>150022534
I printed out a picture of Zamasu and used it to wipe my NINGEN ass.

>>150022534
fuck off, memestake

>>150022469
She's gonna go hunting for extra-terrestrial space-dick
Our girl is back on slutty form, boys
Based Bulma

>>150022469
To go elsewhere if some apocalyptic thing actually happens?