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Is Kingdom's art slowly getting better? How long until

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Is Kingdom's art slowly getting better?
How long until it reaches top tier?
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>>149988919
As someone who dropped it because of the art, I don't think it's gotten much better.
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>>149989653
>As someone who dropped it because of the art
This is bait.
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going monthly might help
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>>149990478
>opinion i don't like = bait
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>>149990892
Nice reading comprehension. When did I say I dislike his opinion? Consider going back to school.
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>>149988919
Kingdom was always retardedly detailed, you can go back to chapter 50 100 150 200 and you'll find clothes and all that shit being stupidly detailed, the armor has always looked great too
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>>149990529
>Going monthly
>for a manga that's like 40-50% in

Shove that idea up your ass
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>>149988919
Kingdom has bad art? Since when?
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>>149991505
some shitposters on /a/ says it has bad art because the horses are drawn with short legs and really muscular bodies.

Of course it's meant to BE like that for 3000 years ago horses in china but shitposters will shitpost
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>>149991948
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>>149990478
>>149990892
>>149990936
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The show had shit CGI, though that's usually a symptom of the source material being too detailed to animate on a budget.
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>>149991316
what is Vinland Saga
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>>149992460
Season 2 didn't have cgi, well it did but in mooks and stuff like that in the background.

Season 1 got better in the second half anyways. It still had CGI but there was 2D too
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>>149988919
Reminder that next historical total war could have a china setting
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>>149992875
Never heard of it
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>>149992852


What? Vinland Saga is a manga you silly poon.
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>>149993662
It was meant for >>149992241
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>>149991505
I don't really get why duke hyou used that shield desu.
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>>149988919
I barely notice the "improvement" from good art to better art. So, no because the art has been pretty consistent imo.
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>>149996171
Probably for arrows. Especially, since he is offense oriented, he might need that when charging straight to a rain of arrows.
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So, do you think only the independent units will be assigned in the Gyou assault?
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>>149996811
Having only the three go makes sense because they won't have the same logistical problems as the full army but I just don't think they have enough men.

>Shin - 5000 men + Kyoukai's 3000 men
>Ouhon - 5000 men
>Mouten - 5000 men
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>>149997082
Agreed. I'm also thinking of maybe Bajio with around 1000 elite men can help them. Scaling walls or do mountain people shit. Do you think among the three, shoheikun appointed an acting supreme commander?
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>>149996737
If that was the case tons of other generals should use a shield, like mou bu.
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>Ousen
>Yotanwa
>Kanki
Now the previous arc and historical spoilers make more sense.
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>>149991316
>40-50%
More like 30% at best
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>>149997955
Maybe because they are generals that will go to the battlefield to attack only during decisive points so they may think they don't need it.

On the other hand, Duke Hyou is always out there.
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>>149998653
What do you think is Kanki's weakness Riboku has found out?

Kanki vs Kisui 2 is hype!
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>>149988919
No
Never, because there's no effort from the author to make it better.
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>>149998972
That Kanki likes to make big gambles even when a safer albeit more costly way to victory already exists. Just call his bluff in those big gambles and Kanki gets fucked.
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>>149997631
I don't see any of them being the supreme commander. They said Shin shouldn't even have Kyoukai under his command because 8000 men was more than he should be in charge of. If someone is charge of the three it'll probably be Ouhon. He'd have become a general already if Tou hadn't blocked it.
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>>149988919
>Tell me about Ousen! Why does he wear the mask?
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>>149991948
>>149989653
>>149990478
I remember in /eagg/ some people really hate the art

Maybe too detailed for them
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>>150001009
It's fine to dislike the art. But dropping something because of the art is just retarded.
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>>149998972
Apparently history provides the answer.
Kanki gets baited into leaving his HQ to kill the enemy commander (as he has always done) He wins, but on his way back he gets ambushed by Riboku. Because Kanki is disconnected from his HQ, the rest of his army doesn't know what the fuck is going on and they get fucked too.
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Who else is as happy as him?
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>>149998972
He is a sadist cunt and would always take the easier path
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>>150003113
I thought he was just surprised. Why is Heki even down there? He's a general too.
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>>150002298
Thanks for spoiler-ing. Had a quick glance and avoided reading it for now.

I wanna ask if you already know Chinese history, at least, during this period, do you still have enough enjoyment out of the series?

And what can you advice someone like me who don't know it but is a natural curious cat that really research what he likes?

I know that China will be unified but I don't know the key specifics. So I'm really hyped up not just for Shin but more for the Generals and I don't want to be spoiled if they will die before unification.
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Hara really isn't one for great art - he's an engineer who's still learning how to draw on the job. I doubt he'll ever be able to draw horses properly.
However two things in this chapter caught my eye:
-Shousa's (Hi Shin spear guy) eye panel. I know Hara loves these singular eye panels but this one was really well done.
-The Mountain Folk design. Hara is at his best when he just goes all out in characterization Oda style, they really look outlandish and savage. Same with the Kanki guys.
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>>150003377
Heki has always had the shots for Yotanwa ever since.
Based on where the sunlight hit, we know why he git dismounted from his horse.
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We have about 10 years left according to a recent interview with Hara. He's considering writing 100 volumes for the entire thing.
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>>150003564
Let me put it this way. You know China will be unified but you also know that it's still interesting to see how the writer will handle it. The difference between us is that I just know a few more details than you do, but we're both still keen to see what Hara will do.
Plus the author puts his own spin on things, e.g. Historically, Yotanwa wasn't a mountain queen, Ouki is a fictional character. and of course Houken isn't a fucking Dynasty Warriors hero. Yet, can you imagine the manga without these characters? I can't do it.
Plus consider the battle of Sai. In the manga, it's the amazing climax to a long, epic arc. In history, it's given one line. Sei probably wasn't even there.
A pretty good history resource is
https://magaxking.wordpress.com/historical-information-on-kingdom-characters/
There's a links/table of contents, so you can pick and choose what you want to read. As of the current manga chapter, it's 236BC.
Avoid reading anything regarding Riboku. THAT'S something you'll want to find out from the manga.
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>>150003377
I think Tou's and Kanki's lackeys are generals too, so there's probably some kind of tier system amongst generals.
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>>150004964
Ousen and Kanki were deputy generals to Mou Gou but he was a great general
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>>150004513
We'll see.

I don't think the manga will have enough fuel after the Zhao campaign to continue with what should be landslide victories without much resistance
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>>150005182
Well...
Massive spoilers incoming.
Yan is where Shin actually makes a name for himself as a general. Chu is where he loses 200k men and 7 lieutenants. Then there's an assassination plot arc there too. Plenty to work with. Also consider that Qin is in a sort of knife-edge situation as presented in the manga.
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>>150004587
Thanks. I needed this. When the hype is too much I just want to know more for myself, speculate and such.

But with Kingdom, I am just too careful. Even one line is enough to change how i view the series, and that there is a way to enjoy still after the fact.
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>>150001009
What's /eagg/?
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>>149988919
it looks weird having all that shading on those very simplified anime faces, makes them look like statues
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>>150005779
East Asian Genocide General

Samurai Warriors/Sengoku Basara games amongst others starring the China unification wars
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>>150001009
I think there are more people triggered by the Japanese names in this manga in a Chinese setting.
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>>150006182
All chinese names just sound the same though. Everyone is named like Wan Win Won Xing or some variation of it.
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what other weekly mangas have better art? how the fuck does the author even do it?
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>>150007167
Can think of The Breaker
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>>150007167
I know Kubo gets shit for his white backgrounds, but I think he has a great style.
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Amphibious warfare.
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What an immensely hype chapter. God I can't believe how good Hara is at suckering me into getting massively excited about each new arc
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>>150005677
Is that from real history? Who's Shin based of?
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>>150009595
https://magaxking.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/ri-shinli-xin/
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>>150001009
Most of /eagg/ doesn't even like The Ravages of Time, the most popular 3K chink comic in all of Asia. They are way too fucking biased based on that stupid 2010 tv show and their vidya games. Their love for Cao Cao is equivalent to /pol/'s love for Hitler.
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>>150009855
Cao Cao is too well acted in the show to be hated even if he does evil stuff.
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>>149992460
Vinland Saga can easily speed up the pacing since it's just a bunch of non-canon shit happening in between various events recorded. Kingdom literally has an entire record is must follow, unless you think it's fine to skip half the battles for unification or speed through them in 2 chapters.

And Kingdom never went monthly, nor does it show any sign of needing it. Hara isn't lazy and has a healthy work ethic as shown in the omake interviews and shit unlike people like Oda who chain smoke.
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>>150007167
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what tv show?
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>>150001179
>But dropping something because of the art is just retarded.
This is silly. Art quality affects your enjoyment of manga. If the art is really shitty, and the writing isn't great enough to make up for it, of course you'll drop it. If there was a run-of-the-mill story with art by Inoue or someone, I'd probably read it. If the same run-of-the-mill story was drawn by some bad yaoi artist, then I fucking wouldn't.
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>>150003377
There's different ranks in generals tied to the court system. Yotanwa for example last we know is 5th from the top, far far higher than Heki. Duke Hyou is so far the only person we've known that sits at 1st on the ladder, though that's counting active generals and not guys like Shouheikun who are obviously above everyone.

>>150003564
>I wanna ask if you already know Chinese history, at least, during this period, do you still have enough enjoyment out of the series?

Not him but I always enjoy it. While studies have shown that on average people enjoy spoilers more than no spoilers, I think it has to do with the individual series and Kingdom (and other historical series like Vinland, Ravages, Historie, Song of Long March, etc) do a good job in the sense that the author knows it's a historical, knows it will be spoiled to many people, and takes twists and innovative portrayals. Just because you know what happens doesn't mean you know how it happens.

Take Ouki for example, the most popular and beloved character of Kingdom in general. His historical counterpart is literally a fucking nobody whose only line in history is dying at Bayou. For those who know chink history, it's more about guessing and seeing how it turns out, not guessing the result, but the actual flow of events, the twists and turns.

That said Kyoukai remains the most alluded character by far since she's connected with the very god of war Shiyuu from the mythological era who Sei ends up creating a temple or some shit as an offering and prays to it before big battles later. Which is real fucked up cause in recorded history Kyou Kai is just a male undefeated general just like Yotanwa.
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>>150004587
>Ouki is a fictional character.

That's fucking wrong. His name is literally in the history books, it's just that due to how Chink->Nip they couldn't literally translate his name since it uses different kanji or whatever that nip language doesn't have so it had to be changed a bit for something that sounds similar. Certain other characters have this issue as well.
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I'm a fictional character
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>>150009896
Yeah but that's the actor. It's retarded for a stellar performance to blind you to the actual historical character and act like he's the second coming of Jesus while everyone else is a shitter.

And outside of Cao Cao the 2010 TV show wasn't even all that great, and skipped tons of shit as per usual of chink historical drama. It's not even a matter of contesting whether their portrayal of certain events sucked or not, they just skip shit all day.
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>>150009954
>Hara isn't lazy and has a healthy work ethic as shown in the omake interviews and shit unlike people like Oda who chain smoke.
Wait, what? What does chain smoking have to do with laziness?
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I can't wait till Kyoukai and Shin get together.
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>>150010274
It's not like the source material is very historically accurate in the first place, it's pretty much a historical fanfic.
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>>150010338
Those two points are meant to be individual, as in he's not lazy AND he's healthy, whereas Oda for example certainly isn't lazy, but isn't healthy at all.

>>150010471
Yeah, but skipping events and entire characters is still bullshit. I think they even excluded recorded canon characters from the records, albeit minor ones.

Plus it's a chink live drama, the production is poorfag shit compared to Hollywood, maybe even Bollywood.
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>>150010541
>AND he's healthy
Anon, "healthy work ethic" does not mean "healthy."
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>>150010592
Keeping one's health so that it doesn't get in the way of your work is, part of work ethic. Hara has never been hospitalized so I think it fits perfectly fine.
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>>150010541
What did they leave out? Apart from the Yellow Turban stuff I can't think of anything.
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>>150010213
Oops. Seems I remembered it wrong.
S-sorry anon.
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>>150010693
Go ask /eagg/ they ramble about it all the time and I don't remember minor character names or keep track of all the campaigns. That said 2010 was definitely THE best 3K live drama no matter what I say about it, but that has more to do with how the rest are total shit.

I mean the fucking Wong Fei Hong films with Jet Li or whoever in the 80s/90s had way better choreographing, let alone Jackie Chan's stuff. How does a country manage to make that man into their bitch yet not have the secrets to action cinematography? Literally casting swine before pearls.
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>>150010797
Apart from the tv show what do you recommend? I've only seen it and Sangokushi.
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>>150010954
I'm not really a RoTK buff, I only enjoy The Ravages of Time because it's one of the few works in recent times coming from China (Well HK actually) that shows some innovation. Stuff like Song of the Long March which is essentially just a Tang Dynasty shoujo historical tragedy suits me more so I don't think you'd get much out of me.

The Ravages of Time simply gets a mention due to the intricate detail the author pays attention to regarding the little things. There's plenty of flaws to nit pick at, specially if you're a 3K fan, but I've yet to see another 3K piece of work that portrays it so different yet polished. It's also extremely amusing how the author flat out said in an interview how his HK/TW fans all ask for the more sophisticated cleverness while the Mainland fans all ask for power levels and wuxia. Still, I've never seen any other piece of fiction address logistics as much as Ravages, other than maybe, maybe Youjo Senki. And Youjo Senki is still more about Isekai MC being vastly superior at it while everyone else is dumb, whereas in Ravages it takes intricate schemes to fuck people's supply lines over to the point where the reader has to question if it's even worth it, which it sometimes isn't.

If you want something like a guilty pleasure and turning your brains off then maybe that shitty LN where some guy goes back in time Isekai mode only to save Lu Bu's ass coincidentally might be fun for you, but honestly the latest translated chapters have me wondering what's the point of his modern knowledge when the MC is already turning into a xianxia cultivation fag when it's only 190~ chapters in out of 1000+. It was so much more amusing when he relied on modern knowledge yet still barely survived each time cause unlike other MCs the results of his application of knowledge were half baked.
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Has any other manga's databook ever come close to the accuracy of Kingdoms when depicting how those stats pertain to the results of the battles?
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Kingdom art is pretty bad
+Absurdly amount of shit going on the pages
-Messy as fuck
-Laughable faces
-Not dynamic at all, everyone is stiff as fuck
-Laughable horses
-Sameface syndrome
As something personal i would say the arstyle is just not very appealing at all
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>>150012098
at least you tried
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>>150012330
>literally no rebuttals of any point
So he and every other person on /a/ who dislikes the art are just baiting?
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I feel that without the art being the way it is, the battles wouldn't be as good. It is excessive, but that is the whole point as it illustrates simply how crazy these huge battles with hundreds of thousands of people are. Body sizes contort to how powerful and charismatic they are. Horses are overly detailed and muscular. Rather than realism, the art displays the aura of a battle. It may seem just excessive to some, but I think it's a perfect fit for the kind of manga it is. I can't see a Vinland Saga style art for Kingdom, and it shouldn't be. There should be abstractions for this kind of thing,
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>>150012559
Horses were like that you retard >>149992060
>>149992122
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>>149988919
Can someone please figure out Ousen for me?

Every other general has a personality except this guy
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>>150009985
Holy Jesus Christ, Kouko no Hito was actually weekly?
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>>150014551
Reverse Kanki
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>>150015264

tell me about Ousen!

why does he wear the mask?
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>>150015295
So arrows don't hurt him, are you stupid?
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>>149988919
>Is Kingdom's art slowly getting better?
Probably. After drawing endlessly for ten years, you start to get good. I don't know if people don't know this but the artist is the writer who basically never knew how to draw at all. That's why the art is bad. He was doing literally the best he could with zero experience. He went to see the guy who did Slam Dunk and Vagabond who gave him a few tips and told him that he liked the story and to keep going at it.
>How long until it reaches top tier?
Another ten years or so when the manga will reach its end?

>>149991948
The problem is not the short legs. The problem is their fucking asses when the perspective is from behind. Once you notice it, you can't stop looking and seeing it everywhere to the point where I swear it's an inside joke.

>>149989653
You read Kingdom for the story, not the art.

>>149996171
Because it looks cool?
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Forgot pic.
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>>150015295
He's a big gamble.
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Kingdom's art is pretty hit and miss. Some of the large battles with double spread pages are SUPPOSED to look impressive....but while series like berserk pulls it off all the time and it looks good, in Kingdom it often looks messy, in the "okay what the fuck is going on" way and less of the berserk "holy shit this looks amazing" way.

Some of the character designs are also quite strange. Ouki and Tou are drawn like gay muscle bodybuilders...probably has something to do wtih their faces. I cant tell whether thats intentional or not. Some of the officers also have HUGE bug eyes....no eyelids, just giant eyeballs that look like like they will pop out any second. Again, i cant tell whether that is deliberate to try and make them look menacing, but IMHO it makes them look silly.

It is also confusing as fuck reading all the names that got renamed to Japanese style which sounds NOTHING like the original chinese names. I wonder how the japanese would feel if a warring states comic was done except that all the famous japanese warlords had americanized names...like oda nobunaga being renamed to dan nob or something. Im pretty sure they would rage pretty hard. I'm pretty confused how this started in the first place...did the ancient japanese just fail at pronouncing chinese names? That doesn't make sense, considering the japanese language is derived from the chinese one, and the ancient chinese apparently had no issues pronouncing japanese names correctly.

The series also seems to have had a noticeable shift in tone from the gritty, relatively realistic early chapters to the fantasy tone of latter chapters. Shin's first battle showed that most of the soldiers were unarmored conscripts with shitty gear...now suddenly every soldier is a trained one with metal armor and battles are won by dynasty warriors style general vs general clashes.

The politics is also silly and over dramaticized. Like the meeting between the king of Qin and Qi. Overly dramatic.
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>>150015650

For Sei
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>>150015520
and the fact that the MC looks like a fucking teenager despite being supposedly in his early 20s is kind of dumb. Meanwhile he is fighting with guys who are 50% larger than him.

Imagine if guts looked like a teenager but killed 100 guys during the golden age arc.
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>>150015765
>in Kingdom it often looks messy, in the "okay what the fuck is going on" way and less of the berserk "holy shit this looks amazing" way.
That's the difference between a writer who never drew before and a child prodigy who was already drawing at a young age.

>>150015877
>the fact that the MC looks like a fucking teenager despite being supposedly in his early 20s is kind of dumb.
That too but I think it's a conscious decision so that Shin will be in his mid 30s by the time he invades Chu.

>Meanwhile he is fighting with guys who are 50% larger than him.
Size apparently doesn't matter. I can't remember where I read this but there are some insane feats done in that time period and in the 7 warring state. They weren't strong because they were big, though that helped, but because they were regularly able to tap into the superhuman strength humans have when they're under insane stress. Think of a mother lifting a car to save her baby, but Shin basically does this all the time at a young age. That's pretty insane. It makes him naturally strong but unpolished, which is how he seems at the beginning.
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>>150015877
Also Guts was basically a teenager during the golden age arc. He was basically 15-16 or so when he killed those 100 guys.
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>>150015971
Eh, really? I thought he was in his early twenties during the peak of the golden age arc and he was a teenager at the start (when he first met griffith)

If you look at Guts' body when he fought the 100 guys, he is already fucking ripped and easily larger than most foot soldiers.
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>>150015877

Aren't they simply drawn big due to their aura? I always thought that was the case
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>>150016143
Nah, Guts is actually just 21-22 currently but looks a lot older due to the elf dust.
When the Eclipse happened, he was 18 or so.
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>>150015971
I might have it wrong.

15 (Beginning of the Golden Age Arc)
19 (End of Golden Age Arc)
20-21 (Black Swordsman Arc)
23 (Falcon of the Millennium Empire Arc)
24 (Fantasia Arc)
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>>150015484
>>150015520
That's because you're retarded.

See>>149992060
>>149992122


They're supposed to be like that you ignorant fuck, this is why people don't take you shitposters seriously
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>>150016577
>That's because you're retarded.
How so?
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>>150016593
You're saying that the horses are an inside joke when they're supposed to be like that.

If you want the author to draw European shit then ask him to draw an European historical manga, not ancient China.
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>>150016632
>You're saying that the horses are an inside joke when they're supposed to be like that.
Can you even read? I said it's silly to the point where it's almost done intentionally for a reason.

Calm your autism.
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>>150015877
Have you seen any Chinese looking like Guts when they're 20?

You're mixing a guy that's clearly not Asiatic with a guy that is, and you're mixing series with different tones. I don't remember KINGDOM being edgy as fuck taking jabs at religion with the mindset of a 14 year old and ripping off devilman
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>>150016182
Well, yes and no.

They are genuinely big, they get BIGGER sometimes because of aura.
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>>149988919
The backgrounds always look like shit in kingdom. Yeah, kudos to him for doing it weekly, but in the end, it looks shitty
First of all, the armor design is abominably shitty, he deliberately picks the most simplistic armor design he could give to the normal troops so he can mindlessly repeat over and over
Second, the backgrounds look like a black blob with some white lines every now and then, there's nothing that stands out, nothing that will catch your eye and get you to stop for a second and say, "hey that soldier in the background looks pretty cool"
Third, this is just something personal but if i started counting everytime someone is making that fucking face of shock i would never stop
Here's a great example of a background of a war in manga
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>>149992875
Unlikely considering how thin skin your government is proven to be over small petty stuff.
Sega not interesting in remotely triggering the retards in the Red Party and triggering a boycott of their existing product in China vast markets.
Not only China, even the rest of Asia have shit tier leaders who need to scream over very media the moment any fiction remotely implicated their country is shit in any way.
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>>150015765
This manga is made for the consumption of Japanese nerds, not Chinese nerds.

It's fiction and if you don't like it, don't read it.
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>>149990478
You're right there are much better reasons to drop it, like the retarded villains.
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>>150015765
>did the ancient japanese just fail at pronouncing chinese names? That doesn't make sense, considering the japanese language is derived from the chinese one, and the ancient chinese apparently had no issues pronouncing japanese names correctly.

Here's something that will blow your moronic mind: the modern Chinese pronunciation of the ancient names is probably less faithful than the Japanese pronunciation, because Sino-Japanese phonology is essentially stuck in the first millennium while Mandarin kept evolving. The Japanese try (and fail) to read the characters as the Chinese did like a dozen centuries ago while modern Chinese people long stopped trying.

No one would actually know how all the characters were pronounced in ancient China if it wasn't for modern linguistic research retracing the evolution of the Chinese language and some ancient poetry that hints at which words used to rhyme.


You're doing the equivalent of complaining that English people say "Julius Caesar" instead of the "original name" Giulio Cesare. Maybe the way murricans pronounce Latin words isn't perfect but it's much closer to ancient Latin than modern Italian.
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>>150024699
interesting post, desu. We'll never know which one is more accurate, though
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>>150010385
I don't where this is from, but I'd love to know what is going on here. Did she declare herself the winner of the Shinbowl?
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Just caught up with the last chapter, what a fabolous manga this is, don't know why I started it so late
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>>150014551
Extremely cautious and ambitious, I feel like the one with less personality is Tou
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Finally we are able to see first hand the work of the best general.

Rembering how he kicked rempas ass and how he saved everyone during the coalition army is enough to expect greatthing during this arc.
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>>150027531
But anon, best general is Renpa himself
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>>150014551

he's playing the long con

show an outward obedience until he becomes of of the six great generals, while slowly gathering strong and competent generals and commanders under him

gets a free army loyal to him and initial protection and support from Qin

then, when out and about leading his independent army, he conquers cities and lands, claiming them for himself, not Qin and creates his own kingdom
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>>150028185
pic related
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What would you let daddy Kanki do to you?
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>>150028705
I would let him exterminate my village desu
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Are there any fujos reading this? I need someone to talk about ships with, what are y'all favorite ships? Both fujo and het
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>>149988919
When it reaches Murata/Miura levels it will be considered top tier since they're the lowest in that category
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>>150029132
KarinxRenpa for some earthquake inducing intercourse
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>>150028705
>tfw kanki will never force himself on you
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Would you?
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>>150029132
Shin with Karyou Ten, Mou Ten, You, Kyou Kai.
Too many waifus.
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>>150027398
Tou's entire personality was based on being Ouki's #2. It seems like he's just a serious person considering he went from the creepy perpetual smile to having a serious face all the time when Ouki died.
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>>150029132
Do you want cancer?
I guess for threads to survive here in /a/, there has to.

> Shin x Kyou Kai
> Shin x Karyo Ten
The best one would be
> Shin x Tajifu
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>>150035543
Why does no one ever consider Shin X Sei's son's mother's friend?

You know, that slut who is best friends with Sei's wife.
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the art doesn't need to get any better

improving the art would scarecely improve the quality of the product
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Im surprised this thread is still going.
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I know there's probably like 10 volumes until zhao is defeated, but what happens after that?

by far, Riboku is the only villain they've built up to be on that level, but after he's defeated there's still Chu to beat. and no one in chu is remotely as intimidating or impressive.

so are they going to have Riboku flee zhao to be an advisor to Chu?

Or try to make that tall female general be the main bad guy after Riboku?

not sure how the pacing and overall flow of the manga will work after Riboku fails to defend zhao.
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When will Shin fuck Kyokay
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>>150036336
I did >>150033403
She's called You and will definitely be Shin's future waifu among others.
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>>150028185
>>150028568
Do you think Shin will fight Renpa during his war with Chu?
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>>150038348
Riboku isn't set to die for a good few years. He's set up to be the overall main antagonist because he's basically the strongest historical character at the time and went down in history as undefeated.

The author said that he's following the historical text, so Riboku will eventually die no matter what in a horribly anti climatic way.
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>>150038348
Ren Pa is pretty impressive even though he's old, no?
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I don't think Ten will be one of Shin's concubines. This bird is cute but too fragile.
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>>149989653
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Their child will be able to jump on tree tops.
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>>150041021
>I don't think Ten will be one of Shin's concubines.
You're right. She's going to die and will die a virgin.
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>>150042092
>implying Xin wont have a child
>impyling that child wont be Han Xin
>implying Han Xin wont become the famous general to overthrow the Qin-Dynasty and found the Han-dynasty
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>>150042171
>implying he won't have a child in the time skip
>implying that the story won't just imply he got a child while never referencing who he got married to and who he impregnated
>>implying Han Xin wont become the famous general to overthrow the Qin-Dynasty and found the Han-dynasty
>implying the author will ever continue the story after all the states have been unified and won't end with a cliffnote of the events after the end.
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>>150042171
I for one, look forward how the author would handle the evolution of Yin Zheng into Qin Shihuang.

I fear that Xin would be the first one to get executed, after expiring his usefulness for uniting China.
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>>150042368
He eventually has descendants that become famous or something. It's unlikely he'll be executed.
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>>150042540
Yeah, Han Xin, the guy who overthrows the Qin-Dynasty his father helped to build, alongside some dude called Liu somthing, who becomes the emperor of the Han-Dynasty (which then also ends in the 3 kingdom period after 400 years of stable rule)
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>>150042368
Wouldn't the story just end by the time China is united? That's basically what the story is supposed to be about, and it's not like there's any battles/wars to write about between unification and the collapse.
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>>150043066
It'll end when Sei dies
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This fucking guy man. He was literally a random carriage driver that ended up getting involved due to Ouki being a major asshole and now he is a fucking hero.
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>>150044161
That arc was great. Every single secondary character and main character managed to show off while showing that the Hi Shin needs to grow and mature because they're still not in the general tier yet, but they're getting there.
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>>150044161
He was already quite promising for sticking out with the Ouki training when it was just him, Shin and a bunch of oldies, women and children. That's not a small thing.
Plus he and the rest of the peasants have been with Shin through some serious shit. If anyone manages to keep up after going through what the HSU went through, that person is a badass without exception.
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