>I know about her >Her parents are elite public servants

>>149971222
That's all true except the last one. But after StrikerS, Vivio lived a life of a top ojousama for sure.

>Even if you don't participate in martial arts, even if you are not strong, isn't it okay?
>You have a home to return to, you have lots of friends
>Aren't you happy enough?
Rinne pls

I wonder how would Rinne respond to Vivio's Clone Space Jesus background.

>>149971321
>top ojousama
that's Victoria for you. Or Rinne after the adoption.
Vivio only has an upper middle class lifestyle.

>>149971222
I wanna fuck that whore on the right.

>>149971694
>Vivio only has an upper middle class lifestyle.
You're underestimating Vivio's status and treatment she received growing up after StrikerS? She's the freaking Saint, dude. On the surface she lives an exceptionally upper middle class lifesype, but below she's like royalty.

>>149971222
>>149971610
What's the problem?

>>149971610
Fuuka and Rinne's reactions to Vivio's, Einhart's, and Nove's background would be a sight to see.

>>149971222
>>149971610
Most of what she's saying isn't wrong, you know. Vivio is well-loved, cherished by many, and has a charmed happy life being protected by a lof of powerful people.

>>149971222
Vivio kinda gets a brake after the bullshit she went through during StrikerS.

>>149971924
Would be hilarious if they are just plain confused by why everyone in the Church calls Vivio "Your Majesty" until they saw a portrait of Olivie.

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>>149972062
>Her Majesty Vivio a clone of Sankt Kaiser
>Einhart a belkan prince inside
>Sieglinde
>Fabia a nekomimi witch
>NanoFate moms
>Ixpelia

>Coach, how did a normal person like you even get to know these people?

That reminds me, suddenly I thought Dieci appeared in Strike. I must have had a dream about anime at night, ffs.

>>149971924
Also, I wonder if she knows Nove is adopted. Although the situation is very different, it wouldn't put them much closer.

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I hope Vivio drops her strike arts soon. I think she's proved herself quite well. It's time to take after her momma and become a nuke. She can already do some crazy shit without a device.

>>149975586
>I think she's proved herself quite well.
Not until she actually wins a tournament.

>It's time to take after her momma and become a nuke.
After which one?

>>149975708
Fate couldn't nuke shit.

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>i hurt myself today starts playing

>>149971924
Damn shame that they'll never do that.

>>149971222
If she knows about Vivio's parents wouldn't she also know she's adopted?

>>149975749
Fate has S rank nukes, but Nanoha has stronger and longer ranged spells.

>>149976858
So she should learn from the best nuker and best momma

>>149976995
>from the best nuker
Maybe Hayate fits that description better.

>best momma
That would be Fate.

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>>149977094
Hayate isn't fucking shit and she is the best momma because she actually loves her.

If they had not dropped Force. Nanoha was helping with the development of the Fortress units just with Vivio in mind. They are designed for people with huge raw magical power but who cannot shoot well.

>>149976995
>>149977155
Hayate's ultra range bombardment skills are literally nukes that she can spam from very far away. Nanoha can't really compare as a nuker. SLB has the capability to surpass in sheer firepower from a certain range if there's enough mana in the atmosphere that are discharged from numerous spells being used.

>>149977412
Hayate needs time to throw her stuff

>>149977442
As support, she has time, or rather should have time. It depends on the role and circumstances. If it's simply to nuke from afar than it won't be a problem. If it's one on one than it'll be tricky, but still doable on a lesser scale with smaller nukes and more binding with hit and run tactics until she can cast a decent spatial nuke that fills and pushes out the entire space..

These magical girls are stronger than all of the Dragon ball serie retardation? If so I'm glad because little girls can defeat these monkies so easily.

Also I hate the adult very of nanoha and fate, they ruined the series because of that. There a bunch of disgusting doujins with them being thick and such.

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>>149977650
>These magical girls are stronger than all of the Dragon ball serie retardation?
No, none of the Nanoha girls can take out a planet in one shot.
The Sailor Senshi would wipe the floor with the Dragon Ball cast though, so you can indulge in your dream of Magical Girls crushing super monkeys through them.

>>149977761
keep dreaming senpai

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Fate is a bad mother and Vivio deserves better.

>>149977829
Elaborate, what is it you believe I got wrong?

>>149971610
>"Boo Hoo some school girls are mean to me and my grandfather died of natural causes, I'll have my revenge on the world"
>"You think you had it though? I was a fucking lab rat from birth until rescued by the TSAB, then kidnapped and tortured by terrorists and forced to attempt murder on my mother, you bitch had nothing on me"
I get Rinne's story is supposed to be sad but with people like Vivio and Hayate surviving fucking insane backgrounds only make Rinne to look like a whinny faggot by comparison. I guess I could say she's similar to Lutecia but at least she had the excuse of being almost a toddler at the time and manipulated by a criminal sociopath. The closest Rinne have to an excuse is Jill.

>>149971883
This. It's more or less implied that Vivio lives a more commoner life by choice. Seems like the church won't have any problem receiving her an having her treated like the second coming but Vivio is still uncomfortable with that.

/a/ please hold me, I am so happy, my little miracle Vivio actually fucking did it.

>>149977836
>pic
What?

>>149977442
Doesn't matter. Hayate's spells can cover an insane impact radio. If you're near the epicenter of one of those things coming no amount of speed boost will save your ass from Armageddon.

Loved when Cypha was trying in vain to stop Heimdall and the rest of the Huckebein were soiling their pants in terror before Curren appeared and shanked Hayate from behind.

>>149978137
She's a fucking pervert

>>149978304
Where is that from?

>>149977761
The Sailor Sensei are all glass cannons though. They must anhilate all Z-warriors in one fell swoop or a single surviving one would blitz rape them all.

>>149971924
Vivio was to young to comprehend what she went through and what was being done to her in StrikerS. It's unrealistic for her to acquire trauma. Einhart doesn't have a dark past, it's her ancestor who has it. Her own memories and those of Claus are separate. Nove's past is pretty dark though.

>>149978123
Vivio's finally earned her stripes. Good on her.

>>149978352
>The Sailor Sensei are all glass cannons though.
That doesn't really matter though given that by the end of the series Sailor Moon can resurrect the Sailor Senshi, including herself, without any negative repercussions.
>a single surviving one would blitz rape them all.
The Senshi are all capable of moving FTL. They go from Earth to the Galaxy Cauldron in the center of the Galaxy in less than a day in the Manga, and Galaxia and the Starlight's fight at the end of the anime has them racing all over the Galaxy at even higher speeds.

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>>149971222
You're right, if Rinne knew anything she would notice her anime is a mistake and she would walk out of it.

Also she's right, you faggot. You know exactly nil about Vivio if you think she's wrong.

>>149978329
You don't wanna know

>>149978694
That sounds impressive I just wanna know if their FTL speed is just for travel or they really can do Flash-like stuff during a fight like accelerated mass punches, speed produced hurricanes and the like. Asking that because if they can only use such speed to move between planets then is no different from Goku's teleportation. Also by the end if DBZ weaker characters can already circle the Earth several times in less than a minute.

>>149978853
>accelerated mass punches, speed produced hurricanes and the like.
While they never do any speed shenanigans like that, one of the last fights in the anime is between Sailor Galaxia and the Sailor Starlights, and they use most of the Milky Way as their battleground.
So they do fight at such speeds, and not just travel.

Why is Fate such a bad momma?

>>149978994
They're basically Gold Saint FTL fast, then.

>>149976857
Ugh, I forgot that Vivio is adopted, too.

More importantly, she glossed over the curious fuct that she has two moms as parents. Maybe that's why they covered NF, so that it doesn't draw questions from people who don't know anything about Nanoha. Possibly Rinne doesn't know their exact identities and the light "censor" was supposed to express that.

>>149978329
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/mahou_shoujo_no_seaside_story#1

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>>149979251
Fate is the best momma, everyone loves her.

>>149979930
She's an awful momma

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>>149959804
>>149960439

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>>149977650
>>149977761
A single Sakura would kick the ass of both teams in the blink of an eye.

>>149980405
And she's actually getting even stronger now. Prepare your anus.

>>149980405
Part of the appeal of Nanoha is that the power levels are pretty low. This is why I dislike the Huckbein and the PSP games so much.

>>149980405
Even Vivio would beat her up

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>>149980932
>Part of the appeal of Nanoha is that the power levels are pretty low.
I want /v/S secondaries to fucking leave.

>>149980932
Not true, part of Nanoha appeal are the big beams flying around and making things explode. It just doesn't cares about powerlevels.

>>149981034
I don't think anybody from the Nanoha-verse can really overpower Sakura, she is kind of broken, unless they can defeat her before she can react, so maybe that teleporter guy or Fate have the only chance to do anything to her.

>>149979559
>your dad is awfully girly Vivio
>I wish my dad was like that

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>>149981034
Getting cocky with that one win I see. She needs to try and defeat Nanoha first before talking big.

>>149981183
She has time manipulation and is able to predict the future anon, that makes it kinda hard.

>>149980405
You could possibly argue she's strong enough to, but she still wouldn't. Winning a fight takes both strength and the will to use it.

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>>149981389
Vivio would brake Sakura.

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>>149981442
How exactly?
She losses in every way possible.

>>149981512
Stop replying to shitposters.

>>149981512
She would brake her arm.

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>>149980932
The fuck are you talking about? Damn this is what VS shit has brought into the fandom.

>>149981701
>Damn this is what VS shit has brought into the fandom.
Is this where I get to say "I told you so"?

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>>149979046
Was the clean one with Rinne ever posted?

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SUBS
SUBS
SUBS

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=873160

>>149982509
No one cares. Even with an offset, the timing for those subs is the worst I've ever seen. The uploader posting that total crap should lose their trusted status. Just wait a few hours for aRon.

Hopefully when I wake up I can wake up to subs.

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>>149982598
I'll take it today. Impatient.
Check the torrent for links to shifted version. 4chan doesn't allow that particular file host htorugh spam filters.

>>149981047
>>149981701
Considering he's obviously comparing S1, S2, and S3 to Force and PSP continuity, the powerlevel is on the lower end of the scale. The biggest destructive feat between S1 and S2 is small town scale. The largest in S3 is Hayate's Hræsvelgr that are mini-nukes in radius.

Nanoha and Signum's fight in the manga isn't on a large scale either.

>>149971610
>Aren't you happy enough?

Being happy isn't enough for Vivio. She wants to be strong enough to protect her mamas.

>>149983321
>The biggest destructive feat between S1 and S2 is small town scale.
Someone seems to be forgetting the Book of Darkness which ate whole planets.

>>149983448
>protect her mamas
She wants to beat them up and take their titles. That's the only way Nanoha can die happily.

>>149983448
She doesn't though, she wants to be strong enough to beat the shit out of her mamas.

>>149983321
Of course it would be if you keep comparing them to planet busters. Also Signum VS Nanoha wasn't about wide destructive force but focused anti-personel damage at which the latter excels.

The Huckebein only feat is being Anti-Aging, other than that their feats aren't really that much above what's shown before. Heck, the AEC weapons are seemingly weaker than the Devices but preferred to fight the Eclipse as those can deal actual damage to an EC Driver.

I agreed on the PSP games setting the bar higher but the heroes didn't got any stronger, they just combined forces and found workarounds to beat the impossible powerhouses appearing in the games.

>>149983321
>defending secondaries
Why? Do you actually want the problem to get worse?

>>149983500
>She wants to beat them up and take their titles
White Devil And Black Lightning.

Does that will make Vivio the Lightning Devil or something?

>>149983635
She's fast and can blast a straight breaker without a device. It would be fitting.

>>149983465
BoD has the capability to consume worlds. We don't know know the details, but considering the feats of the defense program as it fought against Nanoha and company, it doesn't have the power to just blow up a planet with a snap of a finger.

>>149983572
>Of course it would be if you keep comparing them to planet busters.
That's why there's a scale. It doesn't have to even be planet busting, but comparing the destructive power of a warship's main canon already sets a very high bar that that surpasses any powerlevel from an individual character. So it's true that the powerlevel we've seen from most characters are on the lower end of the scale.

Destructive feat-wise, Force isn't that much higher than what have seen in earlier main titles, but it's sorta DBZ-like for the antagonist side since they take damage to make it gritty and intense. Hades is definitely a major step in powerlevels, though.

The higher feats in GoD come from new characters from that continuity, but either way.

>>149983628
He's not exactly wrong though. If you think so when that makes you more of a secondary than him.

If she wins her match does Fuuka proceed directly into the finals since Vivio abstained?

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>>149984269
Vivio won, but she's in no condition to advance to another match. So she's out.

>>149984347
Stop looking at her.

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>>149984101
>someone defends my position of a throwaway comment I made this morning
nice

I got the impression the BoD's defense program is a classic grey goo machine that consumes everything around it.

>>149984347
>ruining corona
There's nothing sacred, is there.

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>>149984561
You mean upgrading, right?

>>149982598
Sure, if he hasn't quit yet. He didn't seem too thrilled about doing it last week.

>>149984669
I'd quit too if I was doing Vivid Strike, honestly.

>>149984669
Vivio won though, that should give him some boost.

>>149984667
No, I mean ruining her.

It's like Vivid Strike wants to leave no doubts in anyone's minds that it's a huge mistake.

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>>149982415
yes, but this one has still some errors (hand for example).

>>149978492
We don't know anything about Einhart's past to say of it's dark or not, actually.

>>149979046
>>149982415
>>149985022
Thanks for Rinne. Now we just need Fuuka and Einhart's stitch.

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>>149985075
We have her own words.

I feel like I should dump these chapters because they're important for her character and people seem to not remember or haven't read them.

>>149985075
IIRC, Einhart has been going to school like a normal girl with a normal life before the start of the story. It's implied beyond her design to fight and prove her ancestor's strength and the sad memories etched into her because she's a descendant, it isn't suggested that she has a dark/bad past.

>>149985162
>I feel like I should dump these chapters
In a thread that's not about Vivid.

>>149985309
Yeah, it wouldn't be appropriate in a VS thread.

>>149984101
>but it's sorta DBZ-like for the antagonist side
How? She far none of the Huckebein had done anything more impressive than Nanoha and Co. If anything it's the opposite. Hayate threw a mountain at them and Signum hit Cypha with enough force to make a shonen explosion with a crater in the ground that leveled a chunk of a forest. The Hucks answer? No sell all of that with type immunity and proceed to take down the overly flashy heroes with simple slices and gunshots.

If anything FORCE brought down the fantastically high power levels to a more "realish" standard were inner power and personal mana levels take a backseat in favour of more complicated and crafty weaponry.

The Huckebein are fearsome because they can shrug off OP tracks and ignore magical defenses. They're more averagely powerful in an even battlefield as it was show once their main advantages started to get nullified.

>>149985162
She had issues with Claus' memories, alright. What I'm trying to say is that aside from that stuffs, we know nothing about her family situation, where she came from or anything like that.

>>149985384
I would definitely love to see her parents, but I don't think it's relevant. They say over and over her life was totally consumed before the events of Vivid.

>>149985364
>If anything FORCE brought down the fantastically high power levels to a more "realish" standard were inner power and personal mana levels take a backseat in favour of more complicated and crafty weaponry.

One of the many mistakes of FORCE.

>>149979559
>Possibly Rinne doesn't know their exact identities and the light "censor" was supposed to express that.

My thoughts exactly.

>>149985483
Yep. They have this setting were they can have adventures on an infinite amount of world with different magic schools and all sorts of mystical arts and did they do? Bring the Suicide Squad as villains and turn Nanoha and Co. Into G.I.Joe.

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Do we know who is this, based on the purple ribbon/scarf/whatever it is?

I noticed the anime decided to not show Fuuka'S opponent, but it probably isn't because it's nobody (or maybe yes and they will just skip everything tournament-wise from now)?

I wondered if it could have been surprise fight with Einhart but if Vivio's match was the same day, we aren't on that level of the spider yet. And I bet Einhart won't have a focused fight in this anime.

>>149985364
Some feats on their side has fairly more impressive though. Divider users are generally stronger and more dangerous than mages with cartridge devices, especially ones with reactors. Like, Thoma's Divide Zero spells are cast casually and at will and they're comparable, if not stronger than Nanoha's strongest Divine Buster that takes time to charge.

It's not just explosions and flashy stuff, but I mean the fighting is emphasized on stylized but powerful exchanges of attacks. It's like Nanoha movie's kind of fighting, but more fierce and gritty due to the blood and real damages they take to make it all intense to go along with the high action.

>>149986074
She is probably no one important.

>>149986074
>and they will just skip everything tournament-wise from now
Fat chance.

Hmm, is it just me or does Fuuka and Einhart do the same moves and stances in the chibi ending?

And I liked how Vivio's jab-jab-jub-accelsmash matches her style.

>>149986309
>Hmm, is it just me or does Fuuka and Einhart do the same moves and stances in the chibi ending?
Are you serious.

>>149986078
The only reason they are tough is because Eclipse virus grants them healing and anti-magic abilities.

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>MFW watching with subs

Rinne is a beast.

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>[ron] Vivid Strike! - 08 [4E5B63F2].mkv
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We've finally gotten around to finishing the fight that was promised last week. Fun fact: Whoever is translating VS for Amazon doesn't seem to know that Vivio has TWO mothers.

>>149986384
Among other things, Eclipse Divider are almost on Lost Logia level. Section 6 need those bulky armaments to help them out.

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NanoFate Extra #08 - 「Looks Better Than Strike」

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A preview for a show that only airs on Belka.

>>149986556
>「Looks Better Than Strike」
That's not difficult.

>>149986504
>>149986556
Thanks anon, I needed to properly watch Vivio win.

>>149985451
It's still kind of suspicious how they keep glossing over it while most of the side characters' situation got mentioned at least once in passing. No one ever ask or mention anything about her family throughout the course of Vivid. They didn't even try to contact them when they brought her over to the hospital and police after she assaulted Nove even though she is a minor. And like Fuuka said in episode 2, Einhart is especially vague when it comes to herself.
It's probably not dark but something is definitely up with her family, though, I guess we'll never learn about it.

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Vivio isn't that tanky.

>>149986078
>Divider users are generally stronger and more dangerous than mages with cartridge devices
Only because immunity. Cartridge powered devices and mages hace way more impressive feats power wise in the past. EC Drivers and dividers only stand out for being able to ignore magic.

>Tohma's attacks
None of those were too impressive. Heck Agito, an A+ ranked magical fairy matched Tohma's firepower in his 2nd mode. His energy slashes are dangerous but in the blast department he's really far behind the likes of Nanoha and Fate that destroyed a city during their skirmish when they were at their weakest.

Tohma did an impressive bombardment attack composed of a thousand small projectiles... that did jack shit as everyone survived it mostly unscratched.

>>149986504
>>149986556
Thanks!

>>149986511
Because immunity to magic. Without that the EC Drivers are barely any different than your average mage.

>>149986504
Thanks based ron

>>149986504
Thanks!

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>>149986504
Thanks, Ron.

>Whoever is translating VS for Amazon doesn't seem to know that Vivio has TWO mothers.
Blasphemous.

>>149986893
>Agito, an A+ ranked magical fairy matched Tohma's firepower in his 2nd mode
That was in training though.

Can I remind you that power levels don't make sense in Nanoha and it is futile to discuss them, or worse, try to extrapolate them from the story?

>>149987059
Where was that, I didn't notice anything. I think the subs mention "parents" (which can be two mamas) and then they say "body raised by my mama" (but doesn't the audio also say it in singular?)

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>Mama

>>149987111
Maybe he's referring to "a spoon-fed girl by birth" line.

>>149987061
It's fun and besides, doesn't change that the battles in FORCE look pretty tame power wise compared to past season. Where are the giant explosions, grandiose foes blowing cities and warships across dimensions? Strike Cannon/Fortress's attacks look pretty weaksauce compared when the time Raising Heart shot gargantuan beams to fight a magical Kaiju.

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>>149987236
That's just Rinne's obliviousness to Vivio being adopted clone of a church relic bloodstain.

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>>149985124
Can someone share a Nove stitch with me? I lost mine.

>>149987254
Well all those encounters were minor skirmishes mostly, biggest fight was with Touma but that was obviously meant just as a mid-level/early boss fight, since Nanoha didn't even SLB.

>>149987379
Yeah I know that and it makes sense for Rinne to assume that but that's not what I'm talking about. That was my guess on what Ron meant by "Whoever is translating VS for Amazon doesn't seem to know that Vivio has TWO mothers."

>>149978049
>similar to Lutecia
Lulu was only aiding terrorists to save her mother mate, Rinne got nothing on her.

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>>149986504
>>149986556
Thanks.

>>149987442
I wonder if Nanoha would have used a new SLB variant or a New finisher altogether during FORCE's climax. Cause if Zero Effect is in play the mechanics behind SLB get totally screwed. Maybe Tohma uses his MC Eclipse powers to nullify Zero Effect and get Nanoha a clean shot or maybe they drug the Big Bad with the ultimate Eclipse inhibitor bullet made for that occasion so Nanoha can use SLB.

>>149986893
Antimagic is part of the reason why it's more dangerous and stronger. Nanoha verse is a magical setting after all. Spells and skills-wise, the antagonists are on par with Section 6's, but the virus compound with dividers and reactor give them a high tier of power.

>Agito
Training and it wasn't serious at all. He can destroy a city if he wanted to, you know. He already was on par with Nanoha in their fight where he went through all of Nanoha's shields and armaments.

That million spell was split and directed to a few people. Those who dodged/guarded against it aren't pushovers. He can spam it without much effort and concentrate all of them to one person or area and that'd be a lot more powerful.

>>149986944
Not immunity, just more resistant. The anti-magic property is focused more on their weapon that lets them pierce magic defense and such.

>Without that EC Drivers
It'd be pointless if they didn't have the virus. You have to include their circumstance, otherwise there's no meaning discussing powerlevel.

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Futaba just doesn't stop.

>>149987841
Vivio winning is worth the celebration.

>>149987841
>japs have shit taste in anime
Find me water that isn't wet.

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>>149987841
>Japan still loves Rinne
Me too.

>>149987841
What is this

>>149987814
>It'd be pointless if they didn't have the virus. You have to include their circumstance, otherwise there's no meaning discussing powerlevel
It is because magic immunity is a condition. Not a gauge of power. Magic so far has shown more reach, versatility and destructive power than any Eclipse related feat. They remain a danger because of their immunity. But you're right on something, there is little point in taking them into account without their anti-magic traits since a bunch of flying guys with guns and blades won't be that much of a threat against working devices and shields/barriers.

>>149987814
>He can destroy a city if he wanted to
Nothing shown in FORCE suggest that.you

>He already was on par with Nanoha in their fight where he went through all of Nanoha's shields and armaments
The weaker non-magical shields of a very Nerfed Nanoha.

EC Drivers can't truly be measured normally because the conditions of the battlefield must be adapted around them. It's like saying the Punisher is stronger just because he got Super Saiyan-killing bullets and gunned Goku down.

>>149986074
>I bet Einhart won't have a focused fight in this anime.
It's kind of sad, I really want to see how exactly strong she has become. Even if Vivid manga continues on after the Vivio vs Nanoha match, it'd take another 2 years or so until Einhart gets a proper fight again.

>>149986074
>And I bet Einhart won't have a focused fight in this anime.
As if they will throw away their precious tournament crap. Come on.

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>>149988143
I suggest you re-read the manga again. Huck family has a variety of members with different magic that do exactly what you're looking for, Moreover, many of them are skilled enough in a fight regardless of the advantage they that can ignore and resist magic. In example, Cypha can match Signum in sword skills before invoking EC.

>>149988300
>Nothing shown in FORCE suggest that
Really, anon? You think blasting through a mountain from an underground bunker facility that traces all the way to the atmosphere isn't capable of destroying a city in a few blasts of these? He has two other range spells that can achieve the same result after several rounds.

Dude, you're looking for excuses a bit too much. It's not just that he could slice through her shields, but movement, reaction, power, speed, strength and so on were on a level that let him engage Nanoha in an aerial dog fight. Your analogy is no way comparable since you're treating Thoma like he's just a normal human with anti-magic equipment. That's not the case at all. The virus and divider enables them superhuman abilities and body on top of magic enhancement.

>>149988827
As if anyone left in the tournament is strong enough to give Einhart a proper fight.

>>149988890
Fuuka will pick up the plot armor that Rinne dropped. It most likely won't be enough to net her a win against Einhart, but it should be enough to fill a full episode with bullshit.

I love Vivio! I love her1 My daughter!

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>Rinne
STR: 165
CON: 160
DEX: 120
AGI: 90

>Vivio
STR: 120
CON: 120
DEX: 150
AGI: 160

>Miura
STR: 155+
CON: 80
DEX: 180
AGI: 110

Accurate?

>>149988867
>In example, Cypha can match Signum in sword skills before invoking EC
>Getting the shit slapped out of her is matching skill now
I may accept she probably was underestimating Signum but definitely git bested before she revealed her haxx.

As for Pic Related, that was basically his Divine Buster Extension. Tohma ir any other Eclipse is yet to show anything close to Excellion Buster of the finishers from A's climax (By the way the attacks also look tamer in StrikerS compared to A's).

>you're treating Thoma like he's just a normal human with anti-magic equipment
No, I'm treating him like a normal mage with anti-magic equipment. The only character aside from Hades and Curren that is an actual threat without anti-magic is DeVilld because organic super armor plus instant teleport is a pretty nasty combo regardless of origin.

>>149988958
Yeah right. As if. Einhart could just one shot her with her shingeki dankuu and she would fly all the way to the ceiling.
Einhart's BJ form and details about her fighting style is not even in the show website. She's not going to get any good fight this time.

vivio perfect

>>149989171
>Vivio
STR: 60
CON: 60
DEX: 70
AGI: 160

love vivi

>>149989171
I assume Miura tanking all those brutal looking attacks in Vivid was Micaiah, Vivio and Random Idol Beamspammer having crappy luck and throwing natural 1's when attacking.

>>149988062
They were rejoicing from the fact she lost, last time I checked. There were also a couple of comments hoping for the white devil to step in if she won.

>>149989202
I'm sure they'll find a way to keep the tournament going, Einhart or not.

Rinne btfo so hard she had to cry and vomit in the restroom. That would have been the absolute perfect time to dump water on her for old times sake.

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>>149987111
>(but doesn't the audio also say it in singular?)
Since little Vivio has used "mama" to refer to both her mamas, they even made fun of the fact a couple of times.

How is Rinne still alive after two direct hits to the temple?

>>149989384
Well, everyone thought that Vivio was going to get destroyed but they also hoped that Rinne would lose since she needed to get a brake and Jill was too much of a jerk. Most of the stuffs right now are just silly banters about Fuuka having no screentime, Rinne being a crazy lesbian gorilla, Huracan being ugly, and fighting styles and powerlevel discussion.

>>149989384
http://board.futakuro.com/jk2/res/3405537.htm

Don't twist content for your own agenda, fag. Vivio and Rinne are liked and they were expectations on both sides. Fans of each naturally cheered for the girl they liked more, that's all. Being Nanoha's daughter, some see that befriending is to be expected and a good thing.

>>149989764
Fuuka only appears to say osu.

>>149989819
>Rinne is liked
Oh god, I can smell the shit taste from here.

>>149989760
Gorilla power. But seriously, Jill should have taken Rinne to the hospital instead of leaving her alone in the toilet. Just how incompetent can she be?

>>149989949
>shit taste
Yes, yours.

>>149989954
>tfw she threw up because she has concussion

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>BLOCK HER HITS WITH YOUR FACE!
Wonderful strategy, Jill.

For a protagonist, Fuuka has been way too irrelevant since, like, episode two. And her combat ability is lower than most of the cast (did she defeat anyone other than men and a tomboy?) I still don't understand what they are going for with her.

>>149989819
That's what I said. Just adding Rinne isn't as liked as Vivio, there were more people supporting her than Rinne.

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>>149990004
My taste is perfect, nerd. Go back to your edgy turd of a waifu and your edgy trainwreck of an anime.

>>149989949
>not liking one of the best and most hug-worthy girl
Pleb.

>>149990121
>Using Nanoha in your shitposting and shit taste exposure
I knew it was you, shitposter-kun.

>>149989760
Same as why everybody is fine after taking such blows while being a little girl. Anime exageration and/or magic.

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>>149990136
>one of the best and most hug-worthy
I thought we were talking about Rinne.

>>149990166
>talks about shit taste while defending Rinne
Another week, another pair of sides I have to buy.

>>149990121
Since when did you start posting Nanoha related pics when you bait? What happened to using reactions pics that are unrelated to Nanoha?

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>>149990004
Don't respond to him, just ignore and post something else. That's the best opposition to these fags (also it seems it pisses them, based on last thread). He wasn't able to come up with anything else than "stop shitposting" repies to everything, until he got deleted.

>>149990235
Reminder you're just a shitty troll pretending to like Nanoha and using it to bash your oh so hated muh "VS" for god knows why while using ironic edgy buzzwords that are an insult to Nanoha franchise itself since Nanoha series is partly built on edgy.

>>149989850
I swear to god, one of these days I'm gonna quit subbing "ossu" and no one will give a single shit just like when I quit doing shitsurei and itadakimasu.

>>149990056
Fuuka is stronger than Miura now. I now it's not a great feat but at least she can put up a good fight.

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>>149990112
Yeah, for people who has watched Strikers and been following Vivid, it's only natural to want to support Vivio more since they knew how much hard work and pain Vivio has been going through.

>>149987841
And people were saying that Japan doesn't care about this series anymore. That's good to know.
Thank you, Vivio.

>>149990028
You clearly have never watched Air Gear.
https://youtu.be/qBcHC70suz8?t=31

>>149990112
You said they as if everyone was doing that. You didn't specify and ignored giving contxt.

>>149990310
Sometimes the plan is to make him shitpost harder. It's the only way to have mods/janitor do something about him.

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>>149990249
Does my impeccable taste intimidate you?

>>149990320
>pretending to like Nanoha
I'm not the VSfag in this situation, though. I want Nanoha to come back in all of her glory in a good new season.

>since Nanoha series is partly built on edgy.
You have yet to show me the part in S1 where Nanoha beats the shit out of Arisa all the way to the hospital.

>>149990377
More like, for people with shit taste. Anyone who has actually watched StrikerS and has been following Vivid would want them to fuck off already.

>>149990384
>it's good people support the travesty that is Vivid Strike
And people say I'm the one merely pretending to like Nanoha.

Reminder to not reply.

>>149990384
Who told you that? Vivid is still selling well, Innocent is doing okay, and the movies were successful and there's a third movie is on the way. Also, Nanoha is still very strong in Comiket, as usual.

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>>149990535
He'll do that on his own and this way he gets more salty, without kids going with his game. Side effect that there is less mess in the thread.

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I think our small autist might just be pretty hurt Nanoha fan.
I can understand him a bit, it did feel like spite to the face back when they announced a Vivid spin off without any Nanoha or Fate on sight, it is almost natural to feel betrayed at first. He probably never let that resentment go and now he can't help but vent his frustration here.

I pity him and I hope some third movie PV can calm him a bit.

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>they aren't going to build up Jill as the big bad who corrupted pure little shit/Rinne into being bad or whatever
This is the sort of thing that pisses me off. Tsuzuki clearly knows how to write well, he hasn't lost that capability. Yet Vivid Strike's writing ranges from mediocre to hilariously bad in every other area, so what the hell happened?

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I really want to see Rio fight.

>>149990908
>Tsuzuki clearly knows how to write well
Really? I've always thought A's as a happy accident.

I feel like the vivid anime could have been okay in isolation, but it just feels like watered down trash compared to the original series.

Its impossible to build credible tension in these matches since everything is so safe.

For the love of god just give me teen nanofate doing crazy shit with the universe on the line.

>>149990908
Everyone expected Jill to be the evil influence. I don't know how breaking an incredibly predictable cliche is your idea of bad writing.

>>149991243
Vivid has a few matches that actually mean something, with Einhart at least, and the Ancient Belka stuff is pretty good.

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>getting completely knocked out unconscious brought up old traumatic wounds
I want to comfort and head pat Rinne.

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>you will never punch Satomi Arai in the face
Why even live?

>>149990908
Evil or not, she is already a bad influence.

>>149991363
Her floofy hair really makes you want to even more.

>>149991393
Harry a bitch. BTW, Else voice really surprised me in Vivid, for such a shorty.

>>149991243
Nanohaverse should have went the way Nasuverse did and started to move itself away from the reliance on Nanoha herself. You can have stories without Nanoha and co but you need a universe first to stand on without the titular characters.

It's obvious that Nanohaverse was never intended to get this large and that a lot of the world building is mostly just tacked on. It's a character driven setting without much thought to the world around it.

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VIVICORO FUCKING CONFIRMED
SORRY MIURA, SORRY EINHART, BEST GIRL WINS.

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>>149990876
Why does the movie matter? Vivid Strike will be a resounding success. Nanoha will come back for the movie and then the rest of the franchise will be shitty MMA fights starring characters that are either complete shit or completely wasted on the tournaments arc that are sure to follow.

>>149991363
Victor cheering her up soon™.

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>>149991512
You are thinking of a way to negative output, they can't extent tournaments much longer when there is still a lot of the franchise untouched, beginning with adventures to other worlds for example.

>>149991041
The way things are going, I think you've been right all along.

>>149991325
You got that backwards. The dumb cliche being broken was an example of good writing in the midst of the mess that is Vivid Strike. I quite honestly expected a Fate/Precia kind of relationship to be set up following Rinne's defeat and it's nice to see they didn't.

>>149991363
Vivio should have finished the job.

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>>149971222
>using lightbeams to censor the old ladies
Holy fuck, Tsuzuki is a genius.

>>149986504
Sankyuu

>>149991659
Nanoha is an exception, she should never be censored. I would trade all lolis I know for one Nanoha no matter the age, and this is coming from a guy whose goal in life is to marry a loli.

>>149990908
Obviously that's because she's misguided too. Like Rinne, Jill also need some saving. Probably Nove talking to her about second chances and stuff while vaguely referring to her time as killborg.

>>149991496
Miura stopped being an option a couple episodes ago so it's not that big of a loss.

>>149991722
Disregard this I can't read.

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God, I want to adopt Ix-chan and her loli bodyguards.

>>149991761
Second chances of what? Jill is right, talent is everything and she knows she sucks.

>>149980158
You're right. She's best papa.

Is Tsuzuki really the writer on this show?

>>149991021

Not in this season. It's too much about magical boxing.

>>149991722
>>149991768
I guess I'll spare you the sarcasm then. I do agree with you that making Jill a Precia retread wouldn't have worked out no matter how much Tsuzuki wanted us to love Rinne. So it's a good thing that he didn't take that route.

>>149991761
I like Jill as she is right now so her personality being sucked right out while everyone pretends this is character development is not good news for me.

>>149991911
Has he ever not been?

>>149991829
If you pay close attention you can see Miura slowly dying inside.

>>149991861
Second chance in life and as as coach, admitting that she was wrong and starting anew and stuff.

>>149992010
>Has he ever not been?

I thought he dumped Nanoha for Dog Days and others are writing it now.

>>149992039
Wrong about what? The outcome proved her right. The only difference is that she wasn't the one favored by it.

>>149986504
>lesbian shaming

The worst.

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>>149991933
Pretty sure U15 doesn't restrict martial art styles. Rio practices her own martial arts and can easily overpower most of the competition with brute strength alone.

>>149971222
Does she know Vivio has two moms?

>>149992048
Incorrect

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Behead those who bullies Rinne.

>>149992101
Sure, not wrong, whatever. Jill definitely need something new now, be it new start, new glasses, or new job.

>>149991393
They look too young this season.

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>>149992023
;_;

>>149987841
Four Rinnes.
Three Fuukas.
One Famicom.
What does it mean?

>>149992235
>samui

>>149990908
Where has it been bad? VS has consistently broken expectations while maintaining an acceptable quality of writing, the one exception possibly being Miura extremely predictable loss (which easily could have been intentional).

Without a conclusion it's hard to tell if or how things will come together in the overall story, but ongoing it's been pretty damn good.

>>149992173
The season is about to end already, and Rio prefers fights with lots of magic involved. If she is gonna get some fights, it'd have to be in another season or if the Vivid manga continues past Strike.

>>149986504
>Whoever is translating VS for Amazon doesn't seem to know that Vivio has TWO mothers.
Citation needed. What did they do?

>>149992336
>VS has consistently broken expectations while maintaining an acceptable quality of writing
Lets not go ahead of ourselves either. Rinne breaking the cullies and Vivio winning were surprises, but there hasn't been that much either.

>>149992180
Nanoha and Fate are famous, she must know, Rinne also said that Vivii was raised by top officers when the picture of Nanoha and Fate was shown.

>>149990908
But Strike! as of now ranges from awesome to average in terms of writing. There wasn't any real bad writing yet. And now Vivio beating the odds in a cool fashion surpassed most expectations and played the protagonist of from the prequel beating the antagonist in the sequel trope nicely.

>>149992336
>VS tags this is the best the franchise has to offer
Just let this mess die already. Let people remember Nanoha as an awesome show.

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Shhh! Vivio is sleeping.

>>149987841
What is this? I'm not very skilled at navigating Japanese forums but when I checked out 2ch VS seemed to be getting a lot of threads compared to the other seasonal anime. It's also getting attention on Pixiv unlike most things after StrikerS.

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>the world will never stop bullying Rinne

>>149992494
Why is she calling her an ojou-sama from birth if she knows that information? Rinne is a fucking asshole

>>149989764
>Huracan being ugly
Holy fuck this. Huracan is the ugliest fucking device in the entire franchise. He's so goddamn lucky that Fuuka's cute enough to make up for it.

>>149987135
well, she at least is Siegs mama.

>>149992389
They kept the "parents" thing in, which can refer to 2 mamas so that's fine, but then they translated "mama" as in singular, which either implies they don't know Vivio has 2 mamas or that they didn't know Vivio uses "mama" to refer to both her mothers.

>>149989171
>Rinne more STR than Miura

I don't believe this for a second, not after Vivio facetanked literally all her shit.

>>149992678
The events of strikers are probably confidential.

>>149992678
This is Midchilda we are talking about. Lesbians having biological kids with each other may be one of the most mundane things over there.

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>>149992336
>>149992510
>ayyy let's make a new protagonist and give her only the bare minimum of focus past the first few episodes
>ayyy let's make the protagonist a hobo and not utilize this aspect of her character EVER
>ayyy let's make more tournament arcs because we totally haven't had enough of those
>ayyy let's make the new antagonist a fate clone, we don't have enough of those either
>ayyy let's just make her backstory as generic and trite as we can manage
>ayyy let's waste an entire episode giving Rinne's full backstory when we already gave the important details just one episode prior
>ayyy let's tell everyone how Rinneshit had a really sad life or whatever every single time she does something on screen

>>149992657
Good.

>>149992678
Are you a moron? She assumed that based on incomplete info. Public info doesn't disclose classified details. Only a small number of people know about Vivio's background and what happened with Vivio's incident.

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>>149992679
>what the fuck happen

Reminder, ignore him.

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>>149992678
To defeat bully, you must become bully.

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>>149987425

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I literally cannot stop laughing at this.

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>we will never get based asshole Rinne who fights like Hulk, ever again

Thanks Vivio mary sue shit

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>>149992657
Have no fear. The Thunder Emperor will save Rinne.

>>149992921
If we go by the assumption Rinne fucking knows Vivio has two mother than you don't have to be a genius to know she's adopted, yet she has the nerve to complain about Vivio

>>149993105
Here's hoping she'll chimp out during her fight with Fuuka.

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>>149991622
>You are thinking of a way to negative output
I could do that. Or I could look at the new installment of Nanoha wide-eyed, expecting it to be the long-awaited return to form, with new characters that will fly everywhere shooting lasers at each other while one of them tries to befriend the other, all of this backed by a fantastic plot and great music.

And then get a good, hard smack in the face.

>>149993196
>she loses again

>>149993180
Either that or iPS is a thing in Midchilda.

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>>149992771
Damn right. Sieg×Victor is one of my favorite pairings.

>>149992473
Fuuka getting her shit pushed in immediately and having to start from the bottom of the gym was a surprise. Rinne being targeted after beating the bullies was also surprising (in a "this probably would happen but you wouldn't expect it to happen in an anime" kind of way). It's true that there haven't been a ton of developments yet though.

Overall the story isn't being predictably railroaded and so far hasn't been overtly ridiculous either, which is good. I would say that the pace is a little slow though. Due to Rinne's background being established at the very beginning of the story, the direct conflicts didn't start taking place until the second half. It's actually pretty similar to S1 in this aspect.

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>>149993180
>two mothers
That's not what she said.

She doesn't know if Vivio is adopted or not. We don't know if other people besides her even know that. The fact she believes that Vivio was raised since birth as an ojousama should tell you that she adopted or not is is irrelevant in any case.

>>149993383
>besides
meant excluding*

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>spoiled ojou-sama beats lonely girl unconscious while her many friends cheer her on

There is no justice in this world.

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>>149992536
Too late for that. Vivid Strike's success will guarantee that Nanoha is never be good again.

>>149993460
Shut up Rinne, go cry yourself to sleep.

>>149993460
Vivio deserves to be spoiled. Head pats and hugs for Vivio.

>>149992494
Memes aside, Nanoha and Fate being blocked out was most likely meant to visually indicate that Rinne doesn't know anything about Vivio's parents other than them being high-ranking government officials.

>>149993105
>Vivio the jobber
>mary sue just because she won once

>>149993383
>raised by government officials

How does that make Vivio's situation any better than Rinne's

>The fact she believes that Vivio was raised since birth as an ojousama should tell you that she adopted or not is is irrelevant in any case.

Oh so being adopted and raised by government officials is irrelevant as long as you are treated like an ojou-sama, ok

>>149993328
They're more like an overprotective mother and her unruling kid than a couple.

>>149993328
>"I can't believe I didn't realize that we were naked together in that right koma..."
Omake-styled 4th wall awareness. Interesting.

>>149993383
Will the blurays remove the lightbeams from nanofate?

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Vivio is cute, CUTE!

I'm glad she knocked the emo kid out

>>149993608
Are you being a retard on purpose or something. Loved by many kind adults, raised without inconvenienced, protected by elite government officials, has a happy waiting at home to return to, doesn't need martial arts to be strong is the point.

>>149993774
Yes. No. Maybe.

>>149992301
That was a nice touch. She took it like a champ, not showing anything so that friends don't worry, while still being sad as is normal, about it. Still she took it really well.

>>149993848
>Are you being a retard on purpose or something. Loved by many kind adults, raised without inconvenienced, protected by elite government officials, has a happy waiting at home to return to, doesn't need martial arts to be strong is the point.

Rinne practically has all that, the only difference is Vivio never got bullied

Episode 09 - FF through tournament
Episode 10-11 - Rinne's befriending
Episode 12 - Celebration - everyone goes to the movies, to see the premiere of Reflections.

Yeah, I can still dream to see Nanoha in this series.

>>149993972
You saw her in a photo

>>149992807
Couldn't that instance also mean just a singular mama? After all, usually it's Nanoha only taking care of Vivio and even training her, with Fate usually being away.

>>149971222
All of that is true. She was literally created to be royalty and the only bad thing to ever happen to her was being locked in a room and infused with magic power. Other than that she has had everything she could ever want handed to her on a silver platter by dozens of highly influential people who accede to her every whim. The child goes on training camps to reserved worlds to practice with top fighters in the military.

The only reason she even does martial arts is probably because it's about the only thing that she wouldn't immediately succeed at with her enhanced abilities and connections, and she still manages to be a top contender despite it being the thing she's least suited for. She doesn't need them to be happy. They don't hold some special meaning in her life. It's just the hobby of a bored rich girl who has everything.

Vivio is fucking pathetic.

>>149993954
She only had that when she got adopted and that lasted for 2 years before it spiraled down into depression and unhappiness or her. She lives in a house where she feels like she's trouble for her parents. The loss of her grandpa because she was weak made her despair and can't regain her smile as a result. So she trains in martial arts even though she doesn't like it and doesn't have fun only so she could get stronger to protect herself.

>>149993954
It's about outlook. When a little kid is literally being gang stalked for months on end, it's no surprise that it'll fuck up their entire world outlook. A character who suffers from paranoia as severe as Rinne's simply isn't capable of just stopping and saying "hey, I have it pretty good don't I?"

>>149994097
Take that back

>>149994055

Is there ANYONE in this thread who wouldn't want to be Vivio?

>>149994190
>you will never be Vivio and sleep between Nanoha and Fate
Why live?

>>149994184

>gf cucks her with practically everyone
>can't even measure up to her mothers
>a cuck

She's pathetic.

>>149994251
>Bullying any Vivid this seriously in distasteful fashion

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>>149994190
I would rather like to be Einhart and have Vivio instead than the other way around. I'm the type to worry more when family/friends have some problems than if I have them myself. So happy gf/wife is priority.

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>>149994022
but I want Nanoha-mama hugging Vivio! And headpats, lots of headpats.

>>149994039
That's the point, Vivio uses mama as both singular and plural, depending on the context. Someone familiar with the series would have known that Vivio has 2 mothers and was talking about them.

>>149994113
>She only had that when she got adopted and that lasted for 2 years before it spiraled down into depression and unhappiness or her.

So being adopted IS relevant

>She lives in a house where she feels like she's trouble for her parents.

That's on her for being a drama bitch

>The loss of her grandpa because she was weak made her despair and can't regain her smile as a result. So she trains in martial arts even though she doesn't like it and doesn't have fun only so she could get stronger to protect herself.

That's just her warped world view, no one blames her, also if you want to get stronger to protect yourself, then fine do it, but don't be a little bitch about it

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>>149993328
Oh my. Please more.

>>149993328
>Not Einhart x Sieg
You had one job.

Speaking of Einhart, I'm Vivio x Einhart is still on my list. Screw that thieving cat Yumina though. Vivio needs to go royal on Yumina's ass to tell her off.

>>149994055
Didn't she spend most of her life in a laboratory, got locked in a suitcase, fell on the grass and nobody helped her up, got kidnapped and brainwashed and took an almost point-blank starlight breaker?

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>>149978123
>has to drop out due to injuries

>>149993894
Why isn't Hayate there. She would look right through Miura and give her the confort she desperately needs.

>>149994740
Miura a shit, Hayate must be even more disappointed than Nanoha that one time Vivio lost to Miura

>>149994736
that's more of a thinly veiled reasoning for there aren't enough episodes left to show all the fights they want to, and something had to get cut somewhere.

>>149994733
Actually, were there every any concrete data on whether artificial mages get "made" from scratch or at a specific age? They seem to be able to grow up with the usual speed later.
In Strikers, Vivio seems to be around 5 years old, and if she was made at 0, this means she spent at least first 5 years as a lab test subject.

>>149994870
Yeah, Fuuka and Rinne had to fight somehow, this is the entire point of VS

>>149994740
Yeah, or her parents actually. Sucks when the budget/politics doesn't allow you to make sense. They could have at least have somebody say that "your mom called, she is on her way too". But let's assume they did come and this was just the plot omitting some stuff, like how it omits everybody brushing their teeth but we still hope they actually do that.

>>149994800
She should have trained with Zafira instead of having fun with the gang of lolis. It was Vivio's plot to make her weaker. And it worked.

>>149994427
>wanting to be einhart
>wanting to be under surveillance by NanoFate 24/7

Yeah no.

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>>149994936
Watch when Vivio knocks Harumon up and suddenly she is gonna give NF little grandchildren Ingvalts.

>>149994936
What are you, gay?

>>149995023

No but I would like freedom because if I were Einhart I'd fuck other girls too.

>>149994505
Can you not read? It's not relevant for Vivio cause it's Rinne's belief she was raised like an ojou-sama who has so many people caring for her, loving her, and never faced any troubles in life. The narration doesn't tell whether she knows if Vivio is adopted or not. She only knows that Vivio was raised by government officials.

Or more like she understands that she's become something of a burden. Even if her parents still love her, they have an awkward relationship that obviously grew more strain with Rinne's cold change in personality.

Yes, having a warped view is exactly a development that she needs to overcome. For now, it's still reality in her eyes until she gets befriended. She's not belligerent and in-your-face or is even cheeky, so she's not being a bitch to anyone in particular. She keeps it mostly to herself by internalizing turmoil and all the hardship it took for her to reach where she is.

>>149994733
>fell on the grass and nobody helped her up

adversity builds character

>>149994918
What's next on Vivio's master plan?

>>149995000
I'd think Einhart has the futadick in the relationship

>>149971222

Why are NanoFate's face blurred?

>>149995094
She will remove Rinne Uchiha.

>>149995133

they don't exist in vivid strike.

ever.

that's just to reinforce that point.

>>149976858
Fate was never about over aching power since A's. Signum pretty much forced her to overpower with speed since Fate could never match her blow for blow, and that pattern has stuck ever since.

>>149994911
I'm gonna guess they are made from scratch, but stay on test tubes till they are able to er, train or something

>>149995070
That was one of the most brutal things I've ever seen, totally unecessary

>>149990908
>runs after a car to stop the kidnapping of a random girl she happens to witness
>people think she's going to be the bad guy

You guys can be really dumb sometimes. Nove explicitly stated that she's not a bad person, she just has a different view on how to approach the ring.

>>149995209
Fate seems like a jack-of-all-trades, she nukes preety well

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>>149995094
Einhart will be more cutely flustered and embarrassed by that.

>>149992301
>Vivio didn't even dedicate the match to her wounded comrade

Poor Miura.

>>149995349
No one actually likes Miura, they just tolerate her because of Hayate who probably got tired of her shit

>>149995349
You're overthinking it.

>>149995407
>Implying
Go away, bully.

>>149995407
Now that the true has come to light everyone will stop pretending and will start to treat her like shit but just subtle enough so that Miura can't immediately figure out what's happening, the bullying will continue until Miura resigns from the gym and probably martial arts on her own.