STALKER VOL1 PREDICTIONS - Fujoshit Dominating

>Udon no Kuni no Kiniro Kemari
983pt

>KEIJO!!!!!!!!
982pt

>Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume
959pt

>Fune wo Amu
925pt

>Soushin Shoujo Matoi [Including BD BOX]
867pt

>Occultic;Nine
831pt

>Stella no Mahou
821pt

>Watashi ga Motete Dousunda
578pt

>TRICKSTER: Edogawa Rampo "Shounen Tantei-dan" yori
524pt

>Bubuki Buranki: Hoshi no Kyojin [Including BD BOX]
522pt

>ClassicaLoid
459pt

>Nanbaka
431pt

>Monster Hunter Stories: RIDE ON [Including BD BOX]
403pt

>BUNGOU STRAY DOGS 2
369pt

>12-Sai. Chiccha na Mune no Tokimeki 2
354pt

>Idol Memories
82pt

>>149904907
>YURI!!! on Ice
>20,627pt (+ 100%-150% because of Fujomate = 45,000~)
YOUR ASS

IBO, drifters, and homos on ice all looking to be solid sellers. Its nice when all the shows i like actually sell for once.

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>YURI!!! on Ice
>20,627pt (+ 100%-150% because of Fujomate = 45,000~)
Com'n, son.
30K is for this show is already pushing it. 45,000 is getting delusional.

>>149905085
Successful fujo shows sell twice or more than Stalker predicts, generally. This is because Fujos don't pre-order as much but also because when they do pre-order, they do it on the Animate site.

>Drifter's best girl is Yoichi
>it's just dwindling slightly between all of the fujo stuff and outpacing yuribait
And they say traps are dead

>>149905180
Then this one will prove you wrong

>>149905227
Why would it? Any indication of that happening? The show is huge in Japan right now.

>>149904907
Kek
Remember when male otakus were relevant?
Why did they decide to stop supporting the industry?

>>149905281
You folks said the same about Sakamoto, Hoozuki, and Super Lovers once. Once

>>149905281
>The show is huge in Japan right now.
Cool horseshit /b/ro

>>149904907
>ViVid Strike!
>2,935pt
Well this franchise fell

>>149904918
>>Occultic;Nine
>831pt
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>149905085
People underestimated Osomatsu-san and look what happened

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>Bubuki not dead last anymore

I'll take it!

>>149905345
Not me, I said SUCCESSFUL fujo shows, none of the ones you mentioned were even close to being that while they were airing. Yuri On Ice is about as hyped as Osomatsu was, hell even their Twitter surpassed 100k followers much faster. I wouldn't be surprised if it manages to sell over 60k

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>>149905411
>Osomatsu-san
>underestimated
The proper word is "culture shock". Osomatsu is one of the oldest franchise in Japan, jesus fuck.

>>149905429
They were successful. Manga-wise

>>149905478
Nice reddit reaction image.

>>149905411
>People underestimated Osomatsu-san
What? Osomatsu-san was ranked 1# in several shops for fucking weeks on top of iAmazon, Yuri on Ice is getting beaten by Touken in retail shops and is only doing well on Amazon.

Fujos are pretty much saving this year. How many shows in 2016 have surpassed 10k sales?

>a production disaster is successful
>genuinely well-produced anime are failing
Thanks, Japan.

>>149905659
Fujos don't care about quality just that there's lots of homoerotic shenanigans.

>6 top shows all fujo
Welp

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If we remove all fujoshit shows, Hibike is on top. KyoAni does it again.

>>149905580
Not fujo? I can only think of Re Zero and Love Live.

>>149905766
when will kyoani make gay sailors blowing things?

>>149905681
That's not true. There's plenty of nip fujos on twitter complaining about the YOI filler art.

How much did Mob end up selling?

>>149905807
They already did, it's called Free

As a retail store owner in Tokyo browsing 4chan for news about which anime will probably do well or not, this news that westerner gaijins have about the buying habits of Japanese anime otaku is extremely relevant to me.
Thank you very much, OP.

100 rins (that is 10 sens, which is 1 tenth of a yen) have been deposited to your bitcoin account.

Now I will stock up my store with Yuri on Ice, Uta no Prince Sama, Touken Ranbu, and Drifters.

>>149905799
KonoSuba
Macross Delta
That's about it.

>>149905766
Drifters says no

>>149905884
So idolshit and isekaishit.

>>149905681
Who the actual fuck buys anime based solely on animation quality, especially when BDs often fix it?

YOI is popular for being gay because it's a good gay romance, it deserves decent sales.

>>149905799
Zaregoto 1st vol sold over 20k

>>149905939
It's all tease, not actually gay.

>>149905927
Yeah, no.

>>149904907
>>ALL OUT!!
>1,034pt

Sad but it's a marketing tool for the rugby association so a sequel is guaranteed.

>>149905848
1st vol 7800
2nd vol 5600

>>149905945
Zaregoto is an OVA and a cheap one at that. Unless it manages to consistently sell 20k+ across all 8 volumes, the actual number is 10k.

>>149905884
>>149905799
>isekai and idolshit
All things considered fujos are the lesser evil

>>149905766
Japan has shit taste, more at 11.

For those wondering where the OP got the source for those points, here's a link to the stalker rankings.

http://rankstker.net/index_news.cgi
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index.cgi

Remember, /a/. You have the power to shitpost too.
Does that anime that you dislike because of the fanbase on /a/ finally rank low? Make your own stalker shitpost thread.
Or if your preferred anime is ranking high, then remind everyone on /a/ that they are shit for not liking that which is being pre-ordered a lot by the Japanese.

You have the power to shitpost whenever you want. Never wait for others to do it for you.

>>149905883
thanks as most nips don't use internet outside of cell phone

>>149905980
That's not too bad.
People were calling it a flop.

>>149906041
Most people know those sites already.

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>>149905580
Love Live
Flying Witch
KonoSuba
High School Fleet
Re:Zero
Macross Delta

>>149905997
same is specially true for all fujo anime as they tend to drop crazily after first vol

>>149906052
Mob had very high production values so I'd guess breaking even was harder for them.

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>>149904907
>gi(a)rlish number
>1,279pt
Well, I guess, at least it broke the 1k mark.

>>149906114
Dude, it's entire """animation""" are just a bunch of flash scribbles

>>149906114
But Mob had simpler character design. It's easy to animate character movement on model with simple design.

>>149906076
All should know it.

>>149906114
Would be really high for most studios, but just above average for Bones.

>Long Riders!
>above anything
How?

>>149905838
Can you give me some examples?

>>149906002
>Utapri in second place
>The upcoming Ensemble Stars adaptation
>A sequel for King of Prism in the works
Yer kiddin

>>149906144
It's time to stop posting.

>>149906114
Especially with all that outsourcing.

>>149905963
What if it becomes gay?

>>149906176
What makes you say that?

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>7,393pt Hibike! Euphonium 2
Another mediocre season from KyoAni. When will we get the next K-On?

>>149906289
Koe no Katachi blew K-On the fuck out

>>149905762
I was actually thinking more along the lines of Occultic;Nine and Fune wo Amu.

>>149906289
Never, moeshit SoL is finally dying thankfully.
Welcome your new fujoshi overlords.

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>>149906114
Production quality does not correlate with budget.

>>149906321
>Occultic;Nine
Even worse.

>>149906333
But there's no end to moe sol even with low sale.

>>149906351
More budget = More, better freelancers. More studios hired for outsourcing

>>149906233
I'm just saying that Mob's production values aren't that much higher than those of most others Bones shows.

>>149904907
>>Flip Flappers
>1,598pt

When will 3hz go under?

>>149906351
Who is this semen demon?

>>149905411
Osomatsu was great from the start

>>149906410
Bones has produced some shitty looking shows as well.

>>149906422
They're just hired hands for Infinite, the producer to such quality hits like Glasslips, Regalia, Matoi the Sacred Slayer and Flip Flappers.

>>149906372
There are only one or two shows for season already, and they keep decreasing.
Otherwise moefags wouldn't cling to utterly mediocre stuff like New Game.

>>149906321
noitamina shows don't sell though

>>149906488
Simply amazing.

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>>149906333
Keep dreaming, lad
Next season, moeshit eaters would get fat with
>Little Witch Academia (TV)
>Akiba's Trip The Animation
>Urara Meirochou
>Gabriel DropOut
.>Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon
>BanG Dream!
>Minami Kamakura Koukou Joshi Jitensha-bu
>Piace: Watashi no Italian
>Nyanko Days
>Schoolgirl Strikers: Animation Channel
>Idol Jihen
>Kemono Friends
>Monogatari Movie

Fujos on the otherhand would have to settle with
>All Out!!
>Super Lovers 2
>Yowamushi Pedal: New Generatio
>Marginal#4: Kiss kara Tsukuru Big Bang
>Days OVA
>Watch Promotional Video
>Super Lovers OVA

>>149906463
For Mob Bones didn't use freelancer though. Their in house S class animators worked on it.

>>149906488
3hz only made Sora no Method, Dimension W and Flip Flappers.

>>149906497
>guilty crown

>>149906514
>mentions a bunch of not SoL shit, including fucking Monogatari
Were you dropped as a baby?

>>149906489
New Game was very good. What are you talking about?

>>149906561
No.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18064

More than half of the key animators in this list are freelancers. Not to mention all the outsourcing to other studios. You may be confusing Bones production practices with KyoAni's.

>>149906463
How much did ConRevo sell? That looked good.

>BSD
Finally that shit can die.

>>149906497
Kabaneri

>>149906646
Sorry, full title is
Hirune Hime: Shiranai Watashi no Monogatari

It's as moe as Koe no Katachi and Kyoukai no Kanata

>>149906620
Yes. But what was said is that 3hz is the animation studio, while the IP owner of Flip Flappers and thus its producer is Infinite.

Flip Flappers could in fact do 0 sales, and it wouldn't affect 3hz, who already got their money before-hand.

Just like Matoi the Sacred Slayer could do 0 sales, and it wouldn't affect White Fox either.

>>149906394
Unless you can provide financial documents or statistics that support your claim, you're just talking out of your ass.

>>149906410
Most BONES anime aren't anything special to look at, animation-wise. Mob Psycho is a much higher class of quality compared to their usual standard.

>>149906497
Not by any inherent nature of noitaminA. There's been plenty of anime aired on the slot that have sold well with BDs/DVDs.

>>149906728
Don't be happy yet. It was ranking low in Spring stalker threads too but it still ended up selling well.

>>149906823
>Unless you can provide financial documents or statistics that support your claim, you're just talking out of your ass.

>Production quality does not correlate with budget.

How about you provide sources to these claims first?

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>>149906002
Oh come one, there's just no winning there is?

Nothing that could sell would be considered good anyway.

>>149906868
did you forget the staff of OPM saying their budget for the show was average for the industry

>>149904907
>Fujoshit Dominating

How the FUCK did you let this happen, Japan?

Did the male otaku bankrupt themselves with Love Live?

>>149906985
>Fujoshit Dominating
>How the FUCK did you let this happen, Japan?

Where have you been for the last couple of years? Under a fucking rock?

>>149906949

Are you implying OPM looks anywhere near spectacular? Aside from the few fight scenes it looks very average.

>>149907049
Give me a reason why the male otaku aren't being the ones talking the talk in trends

>>149907080
Because they're not buying as much BDs/DVDs as fujos are.

>>149906985
Yaraon is also bitching about it.

>>149906985
Not all male otaku are idolfags.

The male anime otaku population is made up of several different groups of fanbases that like action shows, mecha shows, fantasy shows, slice of life-shows, comedy shows, porn shows, sports shows, drama shows, and so on. Sometimes, there's an overlap between those groups.
Like the female otaku anime population.

>>149906101
It won't this season because of episode 7 of YOI

>>149907074
Mob is the same, the only thing that makes it stand out outside of the fighting scenes is the artstyle.

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>>149907124
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHahAHAHAHAH

No canon Yaoi ever made 10K. And only 2 titles broke 5K. For 16 years counting

>>149907124
>Because they're not buying as much BDs/DVDs as fujos are.

That's it? Did they lost their buying drive or something?

>>149907206
I'm not sure what you mean by "yaoi".

Fujos don't buy only yaoi show, they buy shows that fill their delusions.

>>149907199
As far as Bones shows go, Mob and Space Dandy look much better and have more sakuga than OPM. Their staff and the amount of outsourcing done is also twice as big as that of OPM. Yes One Punchline Man has an average budget because it is an average action anime.

>>149907207
They are spending more money behind mobile game

>>149905478

Expecting /a/ to know these things literally ever. It's a board of people that say shit, not read it.

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>>149907242
Just like how yurifags do not like girls kissing
And haremfags hate harem ends, right?

>>149907206
Most fujo don't even care for yaoi anime because they are either garbage or stale shit.

>>149907207
Somebody should make a questionnaire for the approximately 150k male anime otaku that are estimated to exist by the Japanese government.

>>149906728
This season is better than the last one

>>149907254
We don't know for sure Mob had more budget than average anime. At this point it's just speculation.

>>149907254
Dandy is on an whole other level compared to Mob. Which may have more fight scenes than OPM, but outside those has average animation.

>>149907336
The flashback was, everything else is the usual

>>149907074
It might not have been as good as Mob, but OPM had plenty of skilled freelancers on it. If you really need a higher budget to get these people on board, then it wouldn't simply have an average budget.

>>149907295
This can only be bait.

>>149907137
>Not all male otaku are idolfags.
>The male anime otaku population is made up of several different groups of fanbases that like action shows, mecha shows, fantasy shows, slice of life-shows, comedy shows, porn shows, sports shows, drama shows, and so on. Sometimes, there's an overlap between those groups.

So what are they into nowadays? What brand new IP anime are they pouring themselves into?

>>149907295
>harem ends

Name any in recent years. Color Wars doesn't count since it didn't happen in the series.

>>149905355
It'a not funny being this stupid, Jin.

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>>149904907
SASUGA MAPPA
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>>149907132

They're bitching about how awful late night anime is in general lately though keep in mind most Yaraon commentary is shitposting just like /a/. In all seriousness though the industry is kind of doing it to itself by putting all the somewhat decent shit in OVA/Movie format and leaving late night anime to shitty LN commercials and weird yuri and fujo stuff that it's trying to to sell to whales with event tickets. They just make their shit way too alienating even to most of their historical anime fan purchasing layer nowadays it's no wonder most shit struggles to sell.

>>149907254
>Yes One Punchline Man has an average budget because it is an average action anime.
You don't know what the average action anime even looks like if you think it's on par with the animation in OPM.

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>>149907455
Nothing, they're throwing out their money in mobage.

>>149905963
>I haven't watched the latest episode

>>149907455

None. That's kind of a big problem lately, there hasn't been a new IP on TV that has seriously galvanized the otaku base since Shirobako really. Normally it'd be up to Sunrise to come out with this sort of thing but they've been dead silent on that front for a few years now choosing to focus on milking their safe franchises like Gundam and Love Live.

>>149907269
>They are spending more money behind mobile game

I've been hearing that a lot.

Did they really dilute their money onto those things?

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>>149907206
>No canon Yaoi ever made 10K
Well, I would be surprised if some obscure OVA sold this much.

Your new shows.

>>149907568
>None. That's kind of a big problem lately, there hasn't been a new IP on TV that has seriously galvanized the otaku base since Shirobako really. Normally it'd be up to Sunrise to come out with this sort of thing but they've been dead silent on that front for a few years now choosing to focus on milking their safe franchises like Gundam and Love Live.

You would think Izetta would do the job. But Hiroyuki Yoshino writing made them nervous, perhaps?

>>149907667
Or maybe just because it sucks.

>>149907505
Most of those new anime shows are made to sell to the goldmine that is streaming services worldwide.
Especially China, the oil well that must be pumped dry as soon as possible.

Why care about nip otaku buyfags if chink streamers can easily match them by sheer volume.

>>149907667

Why he remains one of the few apparent options for original anime scripts along with Okada I'll never understand unless the industry really is just struggling that much for writing talent or they just continue to want people cheap and that won't take too long so that they can continue their mass production model

>>149907597
Yeah mobage market is all time high right now. JoJo, SAO,Love Live,GranBlue and specially Im@s and F/GO is dominating hard.

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>>149907635
No really.
The highest selling yaoi ever was Junjou Romantica followed Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi at 5K.

Oh the "Fujo Overlords" come'th

Stop taking /a/'s meme so seriously. Fujo's are nothing more than a loud minority who latches on established franchise to make themselves look big. Even their porn on sadpanda are made by a bunch of devoted but limited authors. Litterally 10% of Free doujins were made by a single author

>>149907206
>fujos only buy yaoi meme
Back to wherever you came from

>>149905766
Utapri isn't a fujoshow though.

>>149907701
>Or maybe just because it sucks.

Thus Yoshino

>>149907840
Forgot to add: Junjou Romatica sold 9.5K, then 7K, then just 2K at its third season

I'm going to sleep

>>149907903
niceme.me

Reminder to ignore that one autist who always spergs out at the idea of fujos being a big market and insists the only sales that could prove their spending power are that of explicit yaoi. He will never, ever understand how sales work or what fujos buy so don't bother trying to explain.

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>It keeps happening

>>149907931
Otome geimu. It's equivalent for males would be Idolmaster.
Both are idolshit.

>>149904907
>Fujoshit Dominating
Then why is Nanbaka so low?

>>149904907
>UtaPri
>fujoshit
Listen I know there's a lot of them who like the franchise but that's a bit of a stretch.

>>149904918
>>Occultic;Nine
>831pt

Kek not even the cowtits could save it.

>>149907931
It's otomeshit. Not all the stuff directed at the female audience has to be homolust.

>>149908126
cowtits are basically the reason it's flopping

>>149908184
Have you ever actually watched it? It is full of blatant, shameless homo. They are pandering to multiple markets, fujo and otomeshit are far from mutually exclusive.

>>149908245
Good, I hope they learn their lesson. That character is fucking disgusting.

>tfw you're a sportsfag and fujos are supporting sports shows

I don't even care about the pandering all that much as long as it's not full on gay porn.

>>149908065
It's a comedy show. There isn't much homopandering in it either.

The brown guy with the green eyes, blonde hair and stubble in Yuri on Ice is fucking disgusting.

>>149908256
>It is full of blatant, shameless homo.
I mean, you're obviously pulling shit out of your ass, but there are people that actually believe this

>>149907568
>None. That's kind of a big problem lately, there hasn't been a new IP on TV that has seriously galvanized the otaku base since Shirobako really. Normally it'd be up to Sunrise to come out with this sort of thing but they've been dead silent on that front for a few years now choosing to focus on milking their safe franchises like Gundam and Love Live.

Sunrise Studio 8 needs to do a girls sports show pronto

That gymnastics scene in that Accel World movie should give them an edge

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>>149908408

>>149907455
>So what are they into nowadays?
Mobage.

>>149908428
>>149907568
90% Sunrise shows flop hard. They're only alive thanks to a handful of franchises.

>>149908428
Let's hope for Granblue Fantasy and LWA next season for now.

>>149908388
Have you seen the character design?

>>149908245
It would flop regardless.

>>149904907
WORTHLESS DATA
FUCK OFF

In the end, what matters more is to have a big library that you can then sell licenses for piece-meal.
Just like big Hollywood studios keep making billions of dollars each year and keep making more and more money because of their increased selection of titles that they can sell world-wide for TV airing rights later, or for the right to let others make a remake of something popular or that gets referenced in pop culture.

Quantity is important.

>>149908546
They aren't the type of designs fujo like.

>>149905413
You are retarded. The fact that first volume sold less than 1k dooms first volume of second season.

>>149907931
It's not a fujo show, its otome. You COULD say it's fujobait, but its definitely not fujo.

>>149908546
CD means nothing.

>>149904918
>12-Sai. Chiccha na Mune no Tokimeki 2
Isn't that actually a little kids show that airs at evening?

>>149908494
Japs never cared for LWA, why should they start now?
And GBF anime will be just another Kancolle disaster.

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>ALL OUT!!
>1,034pt
I was having a good day now I feel a little sad.

Sport shows have it so hard.

>>149908873
LWA might capture KLK audiance.
Granblue getting Kancolle numbers would be more than enough.

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>>149904918
>>Stella no Mahou
>821pt
This is not okay.

>>149908933
Too much competition and the two mains are boring. It's sponsored by the rugby association so it's not okay.

>>149908787
Do you really expect that retarded /v/ermin like OP cares?

>>149909040
>not okay.

I mean "it's okay"

>>149909048
You are now looking like a retard, because 12-sai doesn't air in the evening.

>>149909086
Livechart says that it airs at 19:30 JST.

>>149908787
>little kids shows
Now I'm going to call it Abe propaganda since it's about sluts with boyfriends and stuff.

>>149909086
It fucking airs at 7:30 PM

>>149909133
>>149909147
Wrong. 7:30 am

>>149908478
>90% Sunrise shows flop hard. They're only alive thanks to a handful of franchises.

You would think male otaku would yearn for a sports show on par of what the fujos are getting

That has not been explored yet

>>149908787
So?

>>149909170
You fucking retard
http://board.futakuro.com/jk2/res/3389793.htm

>>149907913
There's more problems with the show than Yoshino.

But really, it's just not a show that was ever going to be very popular. Even without the shoddy marketing, I doubt the show could've pulled in a bigger audience. War anime is a niche in a niche, the girls are boring as hell and we're stuck with old men most of the time, the first episode had little in the way of a decent hook, cool action and barely introduced any of the main cast, there's nothing there for the audience to really grab onto.

>>149908478
>90% Sunrise shows flop hard.
This implies that they make a plethora of shows per season.

>>149906333
>implying fujoshit can't be moeshit as well

>>149904907
>Flip Flappers
>1,598pt

More like Flop Flappers.

>the next Neon Genesis Evangelion they said

>>149909294
Well they have 3 this season. 2 of them are flopping.

>>149909211
A sport anime with girls being gay for each others? Guaranteed flop.
The otaku market isn't as easy as the fujo one.

>>149909170
Dohohohoho.

Now you must prove >>149909224 wrong, or forever stand and look like an eternal imbecile in the hallway of shame while holding the buckets of the fat greasy loser.

>>149909295
Yeah, that was Free.
But it remained an isolated case thank god.

>>149904907
>Natsume Yuujinchou Go
>5,404pt
I'm glad people still support Natsume. It's so damn comfy to watch.

>>149905939
>YOI is popular for being gay because it's a good gay romance, it deserves decent sales.
>good gay romance
It's not good.

>>149909359
Classroid isn't dependent on BD sales since its a family show on NHK and Heybot! is a kids anime that's animated by Bandai Namco Entertainment

>>149909473
This, it's great.

>>149909523
They're doing Magic-kyun, and ClassicaLoid is flopping on TV ratings as well, even though it airs at 5:30pm

>>149909528
It's shit. What people do like in the pairing anyways? It's all about "how I want to fuck my coach" shoujo-tier.

>>149909618
>Magic-kyun
It'll break even since its a cross promotional camapaign bullshit they're contracted to work on
>ClassicaLoid
Its not doing any worse than RINNE and 3 Gatsu Lion the former of which is getting another season. It feels more like a passion project then something the were pushing for commercial appeal.

Sunrise hasn't been serious about a new anime franchise since Code Geass, the consistent success of Gundam and Love Live has made them quite lazy.

>>149909793
>It feels more like a passion project then something the were pushing for commercial appeal.

I can't take any of your further arguments seriously after reading this. No multi-billion yen company does projects based on passion, expecting them to do badly in the process.

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>>149909883
>On NHK
>THIS SHOW IS EXPECTED TO SELL BDS AND MERCHANDISE

>>149909220
What's the point of listing it with all the otaku-shit shows?

The only otaku shit that airs early enough to not be otaku o'clock is the Okada-Gundum

>>149909883
You do realize that NHK funds these shows right? Its the reason why fucking Phi-Brain got multiple seasons despite the fact that DVD sales were non-existent. They're the equivalent of PBS in Japan.

>>149909669
Yeah there's no tension. Love triangle with the other Yuri would've spice things up.

>>149909930
Not even on NHK, It airs on NHK E

>>149909979
[citation needed]

>>149909972
I listed every show this season that is currently up for pre-orders (excluding shorts), regardless of the timeslot it airs or the audience that tries to appeal.

>>149909298
Who said it?

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>>149909883
>No multi-billion yen company does projects based on passion, expecting them to do badly in the process.
Remember T&B? The show Sunrise had no fucking faith in and gave the staff a shit budget to put all their marbles on Sacred Seven?

>>149909995
>Wow...its fucking nothing

I hope new janitors will put an end to these cancerous threads full of /v/ermins

>>149910154
When I become a janitor I will delete your asshurt posts.

>>149906814
K then, how come Kyoani are the only anime studio that aren't in the red and actually makes a profit?

>>149909995
That's literally the same broadcasting company
NHK E is just their sister station for Educational programs
>>149910017
Lurk moar. This is a common fact on /a/

>>149910154
Just hide the thread and walk away from the screen my dude.

>>149909473
what's bad about it?

>>149910219
>That's literally the same broadcasting company
>NHK E is just their sister station for Educational programs
With less viewership, even less than NHK's main station, which is pretty awful aside from the news program.

>>149910224
Covering shit doesn't kill the stench

>>149910219
[citation still needed]

>>149910267
Bathe in bleach then.

>>149910249
And they still make another season of Rinne. I bet 3gatsu also get second season.
>>149910300
Citation of what? NHK funding? Phi Brain's sales, NHK being public channel or you being total newfag /v/ermin?

>>149910201
Toei isn't in the red either and makes profits that make KyoAni look like pathetic illegal immigrant poorfags from Mexico who will be forced to pay for the wall that will keep them away from America forever.

>>149910322
No thanks, it's shitty manga

>>149910381
WOW
A huge company makes shitload of money compared to small studio.
From other news: Water is wet

Seriously, I fucking hate /v/tards on /a/

>>149910469
Water isn't wet.

>>149910483
Just like your mother isn't a whore

>>149910521
Water isn't wet. Wetness is a description of our experience of water; what happens to us when we come into contact with water in such a way that it impinges on our state of being. We, or our possessions, 'get wet'.

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>>149904907
>45k
>40k
>17k
>14k
>5 shows above 7k

If that was true this would be one of the best selling seasons in history.

It's not happening. Disc sales go down season after season.

Stop being delusional fujos.

>>149910363
>And they still make another season of Rinne.
Yeah it does not matter to them. Rinne had horrible DVD sales and it didn't do much to boost sales of the manga but it still got three seasons (though apparently the season 2 had good enough ratings to crack the top 10 at times so maybe it is capturing an audience somehow). Hell Planetes was an NHK show.

>>149909992
>a relationship needs to be under constant threat to be entertaining and engaging

The letters "n" and "o" spring to mind. Also, there's already a fight for Victor's attention. And given younger Yuri is fifteen years old and the others are in their twenties, I'm damn glad they're not in a love triangle.

>>149910622
Make a trip so I can laugh at you when it happens.

>>149910622
Not that it really matters, but those are the predicted sales for the first volume, not the average sales across all volumes.

>>149905478
>Osomatsu is one of the oldest franchise in Japan, jesus fuck.

So is Time Bokan, but it won't be selling 100k.

Osomatsu sold because of the fujos, not because it's an old franchise.

>>149910719
Time Bokan (2016) is a children show airing at a time for children, while Osomatsu-San (2015) is an otaku-show that aired in the night.

Fujos literally dominated this year, it's time to stop pretending they don't control the industry

>>149910788
The person I was replying to was inferring that Osomatsu-san didn't sell well because of fujos, but because of normalfags, which is a retarded but strangely common opinion I see in these threads.

>>149910778
>>149910942
Fujoshit shows do not sell 66k on average. That is insane.

>>149910986
Normalfags don't buy anime.

Stop being in denial. Osomatsu-san was literally on the cover of every fujo magazine in the country.

>>149910986
Osomatsu did.

>>149910986
Harem shows don't sell 80k on average but look at Bakemonogatari

>>149910986
It sometimes happens. Don't forget, otaku are their own subculture in Japan, having their own trends and fashion.
There are shows that everyone in that subculture ought to have because it's that trendy.
Osomatsu-san was that for the female otaku who like to ship guys together.
Just like Code Geass was that one show that everyone who is an otaku should have in the year 2007 to be in and trendy.

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>>149911077
>Bakemonogatari
>harem

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>>149911133
>Bakeshit
>not a harem

>>149911133
>3+ girls have crush on male MC
harem

>>149910094
Is Sunrise still salty as fuck that this did well? Will we ever get a second season?

>>149911077
But Bake is more than just a harem show. It's a collection of short stories which each have their own distinct characters, focuses and themes. Something in it will appeal to everyone. There is no demographic which won't get something out of at least one of the stories contained in Bake. Whereas Osomatsu is just a straightforward comedy. If you don't like the first ep, you won't like the next 24. It only appeals a select number of people.

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>>149908649

Fuck you, I want to believe.

>>149904907
faggot on ice wont break 10k, that looks like a prediction pulled out from fujoshi ass

>>149910986
It wasnt an average series. It was a huge hit, fujos are obsessed with it.

>>149912596
You're forgetting that the harem elements and fanservice will alienate many people who might otherwise be interested in the series for the reasons you listed. It does not have broad appeal at all, it's just the best of the genre and the sales reflect that. Comedy has a far broader potential audience.

But it doesn't matter in either case, because normalfags don't buy anime. People who want to fuck the characters or see them fuck each other are the ones willing to open their wallets, and they're the only relevant audience for sales.

>>149912686
Analy devastated FliFag

>>149912835
>You're forgetting that the harem elements and fanservice will alienate many people who might otherwise be interested in the series
No, because as you said youself:
>it doesn't matter in either case, because normalfags don't buy anime.
We're only talking about the otaku audience here, who by far and large won't be put off by shows containing teen girls and sexuality. I think that Bake has way more appeal with the otaku audience than Osomatsu-san does.

>>149913011
Well you can compare the sales for an objective measure of which has more appeal, Bake sold more. But this comment thread is about someone not believing a fujo series can sell 66k- but it did, and the sales weren't boosted by normie nostalgiafags like some retards think. It's an otaku audience, which you seem to agree with.

>>149904907
>>Flip Flappers
1,598pt
>gi(a)rlish number
1,279pt
>>149904918
>KEIJO!!!!!!!!
>982pt
Woah.

>>149913160
Yeah, I'm just replying to >>149911077
by saying that there's a reason why Bake sold so well; it's wide variety of subject matter means that it appeals to everyone in the otaku audience in some way or another.

>>149912723
Are you retarded?
>>149913317
This. There's no show within the top selling titles of the decade that sold well for appealing to just one fandom. To sell 20k or above you are reaching demos beyond one sub group or more so people who don't regularly buy anime.

Teste

>>149904918
>>Fune wo Amu
>925pt
Ouch.

Flip Flappers kinda reminds me of Phantom World

>>149907455
Mobages like Granblue and Fate/Grand Order squeezes their resources.

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Bump for fujo domination

Aren't BD sales nearly irrelevant to male-targeted shows nowadays?

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Why is Flip Flappers still doing so bad?

>>149907568
Why hasn't Studio 8 made another Horizon season yet?

>>149917457
It's Yayaka's fault.

>>149917457
>Bad
Not bad, 1.5k is fine, first volume will probably end up selling 2k, that's average. Because it is a very average show.

>>149910094
>>149911746
This still makes me smile.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-01/tiger-and-bunny-anime-sells-233000-total-blu-ray-discs

Touken Ranbu will be top selling show of the season. #1 seller for weeks now on DMM.

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>>149917874
> #1 on DMM

Nice, add 3 extra points to that prediction in the OP

>>149918034
You don't know what DMM is do you?

>>149918206
Do you? It's a fucking streaming site, yet you claimed Token Ranbu was going to be the best seller as if the views get counted along BD/DVD sales. Retard.

>>149918256
>streaming site

It's where fujos play Touken Ranbu. Millions of them.

>>149918256
Yes and Konosuba's massive Nico viewership didn't predict high BD sales either.

>>149918365
>Massive BD sales
10k is good but not "massive"

>>149917742
It's not fine, and the show certainly isn't average in direction and production values.

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>>149904907
>Flip Flappers
>1,598pt
>gi(a)rlish number
>1,279pt
>Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku
1,219pt
>Udon no Kuni no Kiniro Kemari
>983pt
>Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume
959pt
>Soushin Shoujo Matoi [Including BD BOX]
>867pt
>Stella no Mahou
>821pt

>all that fujoshit with 6k+

Why do japs hate the anime for straight white men?

>>149918439
10k is huge success these days, you fucking newshit

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>Stella no Mahou
>821pt

>out off all CGDCT anime this year only New Game sold well
This is not ok.

>>149911746
>Is Sunrise still salty as fuck that this did well?
Story behind this? How can a company hates their own product though?

Also, they're care enough to give this series two movies.

>>149918449
It's basically Phantom World 2.0. Would you say Phantom World deserved to sell more than 2k? You only think it's better than it is because you like it.

>>149919529
Do you think PW is average in direction and production values either?

>>149919665
I'd say PW has similar production values as PW, the direction is tighter in FliFla, both have very weak characters. I like the OST more in PW.

>>149919704
>similar production values as FliFla*

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>>149919529
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/Phantom%20World%20/
Why are you trying so hard to force it?

>>149919846
people making an obvious comparison is not forcing it.

>>149904907
UtaPri will sell a lot more than that.

You're underestimating UtaPri fans

>>149909220
That it's not meant to sell BDs, it's not otaku trash

>>149919997
UtaPri hasn't sold more than 40k ever.

>>149919945
You've probably never visited FliFla threads then.

>>149904918
>>12-Sai. Chiccha na Mune no Tokimeki 2

That's actually really popular with spics, i've seen it in top of several anime sites.

I mean japanese audience likes it too but it always surprises me how spics seem to enjoy more anime than anglos, for example the anglo community always searches for cowboy bebop or F/Z and while spics like that kind of show they also have no shame and enjoy watching DxD which is fanservice and kodomo shows like 12-Sai, something anglos fucking hate.

It's weird really

>>149919945
Someone was calling PW a retard man's Space Dandy, that's a way more fitting comparison.

>>149920136
Space Dandy also has similarities to PW and FliFla.

>>149920214
There are no similiarities of note between SD and FF aside from the episodic nature, stop forcing this.

>>149919846
Fucking this.

I have no idea why these two (>>149919529
& >>149915301) comparing Phantom Flop to FliFla. I mean those two shows doesn't have something in common at all (except the flop part).

Anyway, Phantom Flop is shit (weak story, half assed fan service, half assed harem, and not funny nor fun) and deserves its shit sales. FliFla in the other hand.

>>149920447
FliFla is the same, pretty visuals and nonexistent characters and writing.
Episode 6 was good but we're already back to nothing.

>>149920548
What do you mean by "nothing"?
They still collect stones

>>149920748
Yeah, nothing.
Collecting stones by itself is pointless since they can be any arbitrary number the writer decides, and nothing that happens while they collect them develops the characters or furthers the story.
The horror episode looked good, but what purpose did it serve? Nothing.

>>149920881
You're one of those people who hate most of the SoL because "nothing happens" and there's no story, aren't you?

>>149920927
SoL aren't episodic mahou shoujo.
In a show of this kind the episodic structure should be used to develop the characters and their relationships, or to introduce a theme and explore it with some sort of moral, but nope. The characters of FF are still flat as boards, and there is no real meat in the plots of the self contained episodes, just eyecandy.

>>149917493
Because the publisher didn't pay them enough that's why.

Mai Hime and LoveLive are best works bar none for Studio 8.

>>149921144
First 3 episodes were the "adventure" type episodes were they introduce various characters, the 4th one was about Papika and Cocona bonding, the 5th was again an "adevnture" type with horror elements, the 6th about different kind of PI with the teacher development(she's obviously going to play some role later), the 7th was about Cocona/Papika relationships again + that last scene at the end.
I don't understand how can you say that there "nothing" happens.

>>149915430
>>149908467

Project Xuccess was supposed to be Sunrise/Sega main mobage in one year the game was gone without a trace, the website and everything. It's safe to say it was a flop like Buddy Complex.

>>149921435
All these episodes dedicated to Cocona and Papika and they're still nonexistant as characters. They haven't moved past their status of archetypes and nothing is interesting about their relationship.

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>>149907242
>delusions

anon

that being said I doubt it'll come out at 45k

>>149907840
>10% of free! doujins made by one person

not sure where this info is coming from

I can also see Phantom Sales and FlipFloppers being similar.

They both have this theme/monster of the week format going, they both flopped, they both have pretty visuals and animation but flat characters and simple overarching plots.

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>>149908408

>>149921532
Did you miss the whole point of the last episode?
They also talked a lot about their relationships in episode 4th. There's was development, but for some reason you stubbornly ignore it.

>>149921731
Not him but it feels like nothing happens because the characters don't grow at all.

>>149919076

give it time my friend, they will love Matoi enough

>>149921820
How do they have to "grow" so you'd feel like something happens?

>>149921845
I hope not, so that faggot White Fox fag shuts up about trying to put his shitty studio against KyoAni.

>>149921731
What was interesting, well written, or just human, about their interaction in these episodes?

>>149919076
Because that anime is old and busted.

>>149921923
We already had this kind dicussion in the threads, so I'm just going to redirect you here.
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149718863/#149743531

>>149921855
Characters in a meaningful relationship invetably grow because they show multiple sides of themselves in the process.
Which isn't the case for Papika and Cocona, that still are just the clingy retard and the serious oneesama already seen in dozens of series, even done better.

>>149922097
>show multiple sides of themselves in the process.
And they did.
Not to mention the last episode literally showed different sides of Papika personality.

>>149922175
Come on lad, it showed diferent characters in Papika because that was the whole point of the episode. None of those alter egos will ever be relevant again.

>>149922175
>Not to mention the last episode literally showed different sides of Papika personality.
No it didn't. None of the alternative Papikas had anything to do with her actual personality, which showed not even an hint of them. That would require writing much more nuanced than what this show can offer.

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>>149907667
>None. That's kind of a big problem lately, there hasn't been a new IP on TV that has seriously galvanized the otaku base since Shirobako really. Normally it'd be up to Sunrise to come out with this sort of thing but they've been dead silent on that front for a few years now choosing to focus on milking their safe franchises like Gundam and Love Live.


>There's more problems with the show than Yoshino

As long Yoshino won't come back to another Mai Hime series Sunrise will shut the fucking door in his face. I kinda hope Sunrise hasn't give up on doing late night anime TV.

Keijo was supposed to save anime.

I am done with this degeneracy.

>>149904907
OP i think you also need to add this:
While Fujo shows indeed will +100-150%, there are many low selling show likely only have 70-90% of stalker points, because basically opposite of fujo shows: people don't give a fuck about buying these shows from storefront.

>>149905325
>Remember when male otakus were relevant?
Last season when Love Live won summer

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>>149904907
>>YURI!!! on Ice
>20,627pt (+ 100%-150% because of Fujomate = 45,000~)
>>Uta no Prince-sama Maji LOVE Legend Star
>No data yet but probably around 30k-40k, including Fujomate
>>Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru
>7,989pt (+ 100%-150% because of Fujomate = 17,000~)

when will there be Yaoi on Ice?

>>149908873
>GBF anime will be just another Kancolle disaster

Such an assumption to make. What makes you think that, is it because they have similar staffs? Is the studio the same?

>>149925828
Not that anon but it's being done by A1 pictures, it looks like shit and it will be shit and there is a rumor that it will be a 4 cour. Fuck Cygames for choosing those hacks.

>>149922405
Keijo is a meme show (meaning Dagashi Kashi, Inferno Cop, Ninja Slayer, and Shimoneta; not overhyped FotMs like Konosuba and re:zero). Unless you're lucky enough to hit the upper manabi line for some reason like Umaru you're likely to flop.

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>straight fags getting btfo
Feels good to be fujo

I just hope Mob Psycho sold enough to get another season.

>>149918034
>>149918256
DMM has their own shop for physical media, retard.

>>149921898
So you're one of those retarded studiowarriors who takes that studiowarring seriously?

So will all fujo shows from now on be like YOI?

>>149928059
>Will all magical girl shows be like Madoka now?
I hope you get it.

>>149928059
It's a hard formula to get right. The romance has to be a side plot and not the main draw.

>>149904907
YOI is only 2,225 pt. Where did you get that number? Are you serious?

>>149929051
He probably added all the points from the different versions together.

>>149920039
Yeah more like 60k

I know, I'll just leave this here!

Pixivカップリングタグ閲覧数1日平均（11月12日～11月18日）　18万以上

1,196,909 ヴィク勇　　（ヴィクトル×勇利）『ユーリ!!! on ICE』
*,630,487 一カラ　　　（一松×カラ松）『おそ松さん』
*,399,993 カラ一　　　（カラ松×一松）『おそ松さん』
*,298,687 ユリ勇　　　（ユーリ×勇利）『ユーリ!!! on ICE』
*,250,282 おそチョロ　（おそ松×チョロ松）『おそ松さん』
*,249,712 赤安　　　　（赤井×安室）『名探偵コナン』
*,248,789 おそカラ　　（おそ松×カラ松）『おそ松さん』
*,203,618 勇ヴィク　　（勇利×ヴィクトル）『ユーリ!!! on ICE』

>>149926478
>Konosuba and re:zero
>FotMs

>>149929196
Wow

In all honesty, fujos can have the industry if they want it so much.

Then maybe I will finally find time to work through my backlog and become fans of stuff that aired 3 years ago.

>>149929106
Not even this way you get that number. He trolled.

>>149929281
Wasn't that much of an effective troll anyway.