Why don't more current anime watchers take a look at older

>>149829376

>b-b-but it's not airing, I can't blog about that on social media
>the art looks icky, digital is way better
>there is no Jewtube review made by my favourite Jewtuber person about this
>you can't make good memes from these
>leddit doesn't have a thread about this, so it must suck

A few reasons.

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>>149829614
It frightens me that these may be real responses of some people.

Now have a picture of this beautiful digital anime they love

Every time I try to watch an older show for the sake of watching an older show I get a little bit of satisfaction from the clear evidence that like with all other media, people blinded by nostalgia are just that, blinded.

>>149829376
>Why don't more current anime watchers take a look at older shows,
You don't even know how many do. Why are you complaining?

The reason why you get so little discussion of old shows is because /a/ is decidedly forward looking, always checking out the newest trends and leaving shows behind left like last season's waifu. Elsewhere you have a) the casuals who don't yet know about most anime and just go with what they learned about through aggressive advertising and who'll drop anime before they even begin to understand it and b) shit communities more concerned with the social game than with anime.
Old shows are still watched, but there is just no good base for discussing them.

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For me it's usually the sound. It just doesn't sound crisp and can be a turnoff. I have a hard time starting older shows because of this. Of course the animation quality can be a factor too.

I've watched LotGH and GTO and had no problems with them. It's just picking up the show that's hard because i have to change my mindset so much from modern anime.

>>149829614
(You)

So far all I watch is old 80s and 90s scifi shit, because that is my fucking bag.

Good thing they made fucking heaps of that shit back then.

>>149829863
Don't use emoticons on /a/.

>>149829785
As someone who watches 80s and 90s stuff, how can I be blinded by nostalgia for anime I never watched when it aired or never even knew existed? I didn't start watching animu until 2001, which was after the digital era had already begun, but a lot of old stuff looks great. It just depends on the budget and production team.

>>149829942
Nice meme

Captcha: eben leona

>>149829851
This. Try watching two 80s anime with an urban setting and distinguishing any aspect of their sound production apart, including soundtrack.

Older shows are only good for certain genres. Modern anime has come close to perfecting the cute girls doing cute things genre, which as we all know is the apex of anime.

>>149830231
The way you say that makes me think you don't believe it

>>149830304
Dunbine is pilled

>dystopian themes were common back then
>this is no longer the case
>yfw its because we are living in the dystopia and now escapism is the main fad

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>>149830231
>cute girls doing cute things genre

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>>149830405
>when you act like you're joking but you're actually being serious

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>>149830512

>That part in Megazone 23 where they say that the city is modeled after 1980s japan because that was the best and most peaceful time in history.

>tfw they were probably right.

>>149829863
Have you tried asking there?

>>149830617
Chacha is so cute.

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I remember when anime characters dressed and acted like real humans.

Did people in the 80s call each other scififags, fantasyfags and mechfags rather than yurifags, fujoshits and haremfags?

>>149831253
No, too few titles. So it was Yamato people, Bubblegum Crisis fans, Ranma people, etc.

>>149831253
Anime fandom was a part of the scifi fandom. Everything popular was scifi

(i don't really know what I'm talking aobut)

>>149831439
There were at least some fantasy shows in the 80s that didn't turn into scifi in a big reveal

How bad are the HKDVD Haha wo Tazunete Sanzenri subs?

>>149832543
Can´t you just download it?

>>149832602
He probably wants to know before he spends 3 hours downloading something at 20kbps

>>149829376
What a great thread.

What are some high budget old OVAs like Megazone that have BD releases?

>>149831253
Have you ever seen otaku no video? They explore the situation quite well

>>149829614
Nobody actually thinks those things. Next time please try to cry about something that actually happens.

>>149829851
Fuck off, Digi.

>>149837559
You'd be surprised.

Not on crunchyflix

I find it funny how often I run into people that say that they don't like old anime because "it's ugly" or "they don't like the style", but still love Bebop.

>>149837559
I wish.

>>149838167
Did you know there are people who only use legal means to watch anime? It's absolutely disgusting.

>>149838167
Everyone I know refuses to dig deeper for more shows once they watch everything on there unless they're recommended to them but even then, they have to have premises that appeal to them in a way Western media does, otherwise they dismiss it as bad. I recommended Giant Gorg, among other things, to a guy bitching about how anime only revolves around fanservice, and he watched the opening and started bitching about how unrealistic and unsafe it was that the protagonist was riding on Gorg's head. /blog

>>149835517
Gunbuster, Cyber City Oedo and Getter Robo Armageddon.

I'm not interested in old anime anymore, since I watched it years ago. Now I just wanna see something new.
My tastes changes though, so perhaps in a few years, I might on a whim decide to watch some older anime show I haven't seen yet for a genre that I'm currently interested.

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>>149830231
Venus Wars still has the cutest anime girl of all time

Actually I've noticed more people getting into pre-2000's anime because of all the HD releases and nostalgia for stuff like Sailor Moon and CCS.

>>149838601
Thanks

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>>149838623
>Now I just wanna see something new.
Everything new is either plotless garbage or a trainwreck though.

>>149839557
>plotless garbage or a trainwreck
so pretty much half of all the OVAs from back in the day

>>149829614
>you can't make good memes from these
Not even a true complaint, look at LOGH.

>>149839816
Half is better than all

>>149829376
Why don't you read Japanese books from 300 years ago, gramps?

>>149840419
Too busy reading Jewish books from ~2000 years ago. Check out that Book of Enoch shit man, it's cuhrazy.

I don't hear much about the high quality of 300 year old Japanese literature

>>149839557
Plot is literally the least relevant part of media.

>>149840731
No that's animation

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>>149840731

I watch my share, but a lot of the time either I've seen them or it's a case of subs fucking where.

>>149840731
I'd moreso say the premise of something is the least important thing but plot is certainly up there.

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>>149829614
>you can't make good memes from these

>>149841782
Premise is the most important for me. If I see it's some modern day cute girl shit I instantly know not to watch it. Meanwhile something with shitty animation or a bad ost could still make it up in other ways

>>149842219
I find it's a shallow reason to dislike or dismiss something. For example, that "modern day cute girl shit" can be done poorly or well just like literally any other kind of show/movie and you could enjoy or even love a show you'd categorize as "modern day cute girl shit" at a glance.

I only watch '60s black and white anime. Any Jap animation with actual movement in it is for pleb cucks only.

I have ordered Crusher Joe remastered version

>>149842550

Please. I only have my butler read manga to me as I relax in my study.

>>149842550
>60s
>no actual movement
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/23264/animals-animated-creatures-koneko_no_rakugaki-walk

Try harder

>>149843745
Fine, I'll be as tryhard as I can and point out that that's from the 50s, not the 60s.

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Old anime is bad. The medium has matured to such an extent that the only value old anime had is in nostalgia, which is worthless for fans who haven't seen those shows before.

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>>149843844
think of it as an appetizer

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>>149843922
here comes the real sakuga

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>>149844013
Wow, look at all that character acting(tm)

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>>149844051
watch out, here come the smears

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>>149844091
can't forget morphing and effects animation

>>149842455
>"modern day cute girl shit" can be done poorly
I won't like it if it's done well either.

>literally any other kind of show/movie and you could enjoy or even love a show you'd categorize as "modern day cute girl shit" at a glance.
This isn't to paint something as cute girl shit to troll it on /a/. It's for my own deciding purposes with what to watch. 99% of the time someone's going to know cute girl shit when they're looking at its premise

>>149843852
Trigger would be disappointed in you

>>149843852
New anime is bad. The medium has turned to shit to such an extent that the only value new anime has is its illusion of freshness to newfags, which is worthless for fans who have seen the same tired tropes done better in other series.

>>149845966
New anime does the same old tropes better than the old shows did, because those concepts have been refined over the years, and it packages them in a much more visually appealing package. Therefore, in a modern context, old anime will always be inferior and worthless for anything but nostalgia.

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>>149829376
When /a/ talks about something that's finished it's because the complete narrative is still interesting enough all these years later.

As much as I love old ova art the vast majority of them are incomplete adaptations (or rushed butchering) of some other source material. That doesn't leave you a lot to talk about. Plus there's just way less anime until the 90s ushers in the production committee era at the end of the cel times.

So for every LotGH out there there's three Venus Wars. Makes it hard to have anything to say.

>>149846115
Refining tropes doesn't exist. You bank on an illusory progress when not everything gets better for building on the tropes of past works and much can become considerably worse as the urge to top past works with ever more stuffed into one show leads to trainwrecks like Valvrave and Cross Ange.

>>149829376
The new will always dominate today's conversation, especially nowadays where it's easier than ever to watch and discuss new anime as soon as they air. Doesn't mean folks aren't watching old anime, just means they aren't able to achieve that level of real-time communal experience.

>>149836839
very nice OVA, they captured the spirit of the fans quite well i think

>>149829376
Same reason why the later you moved along history, the less likely Roman Emperors were going to try to emulate Augustus, etc. It's too far away.

>>149829376
Anime fans are idiots

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>>149829614
>you can't make good memes from these
What? Some of this stuff has insane meme potential.

>>149842550
You must love contemporary tv anime then

>>149847319
How do you explain neo-Platonism and the Renaissance?

>>149849390
A rare victory for the retarded nostalgia fags.

>>149843852

dumb lulucoposter

>>149849435
>Renaissance
>Just nostalgiafags bra, it wuz shit, middle ages were rockin'

>>149849858
Renaissance was in many ways step back from the achievements of the middle ages. It was the reason Latin died as a language. It's the main reason for witch trials. It's why the church started opposing science.
I'm not going to say it was all around shit. But in many ways it was.

>>149849902
I guess in the site home to /pol/ I should expect to see this kind of 'unique' thinking, where whatever value judgments they tend to give you in history books are reversed.

>>149831170
Where's the buttsex?

>>149850061
Sure.
Or you could just read some proper history books.

>>149852788
Idiot.

>>149852831
You are the idiot if you think that people like Galileo and Newton just developed their scientific achievements out of a vacuum rather than building up on the work of centuries of thinkers before them.

>>149852850
>develop
>step back
Idiot.

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>>149829851
>Youmekui Merry
>>149829376
CGI

>>149852890
It was a step back insofar as the church stopped supporting the sciences, or in that people suddenly started burning witches.
A lot of knowledge was also lost when the renaissance elite decided that nothing that happened in the middle ages could have had any value, leading them to discard many scientific scriptures. Fortunately by that time the press had already been invented, so the loss wasn't catastrophic, but a lot of knowledge was simply LOST.

>>149852926
You keep digging your own hole, do you realize that? Maybe it's time to stop posting.

>>149852956
You mean, you have no arguments left to cover up your ignorance of history and you'd like me to stop pointing it out?

>>149840419
It's more like, "Why don't you listen to music from 30 years ago." The same teenagers who only watch recent anime are the same ones who'll listen to stuff like Justin Bieber but who have never bothered to check out Queen or The Beatles.

>>149852972
I'm not the same guy. Take a look at the unique IPs.

I already know you're an idiot when you claim some degrees of necessary consequence of historical events. Not to mention some bombastic, overly-simplified claims that all related to the whole renaissance period. The lack of clear historiography doesn't help too. Without proper method, you can just cherry-pick and claim stupid things ad infinitum until you get 'the last reply standing' medal left on this thread.

>>149853256
>I'm not the same guy.
irrelevant when you defend a stupid position.

You can complain about cherry picking all you want. But it seems you have no arguments. None. At least try to argue in favor of the rediscovery of the antique world and the discarding of so much that happened in in between Rome's fall and some guy's idea when the world started turning again. The depreciation of the time period is so strong, we still have no name for it that doesn't reflect it.
When has ignorance ever been a good thing?

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>>149829376
> Implying that's even remotely representative of how older shows look

>>149829785
I started watching in 2010 I wasn't even a live before 1998 yet I still prefer older shows it has nothing to with nostalgia

>>149840086

Instructions unclear, got two cups of coffee.

>>149835517
Giant Robo.

>>149838754
>your goons killed my bf so I'm gonna blow your head off

Girl had guts.

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>>149849902
>It's why the church started opposing science.
>I'm not going to say it was all around shit. But in many ways it was.

>>149856051
Your point?

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>>149849858
>Just nostalgiafags bra, it wuz shit, middle ages were rockin'

Not if you were involved with some newfangled thing like science which threatened the church's control over the people. Having too many scientific explanations threatened the belief system.

>>149853359
>When has ignorance ever been a good thing?

Many times. Look at how whistleblowers are punished because ignorance is good and knowledge is bad.

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>>149856178

>>149856246
I expected somebody to bring up all the wars brought about when Luther translated the bible.
But whistleblowing? Really?
You'd prefer to live in ignorance of your government fucking with you than being given the option of doing something about it?

>>149856283
You're the one giving more of that creationist style logic.

>>149856246
>When has ignorance ever been a good thing?
There were lots of people angry at those activists harming the church with public reveals of priests using their authority over young boys (and girls in some cases). People believed that it should have been resolved quietly without harming the church.

>>149856363
Sure.
Why don't you go back to masturbating?

>>149829376
Why do you even give a fuck and what makes you think anyone is going to care?

Do you want other "/a/nons" to chime in and make you feel better about yourself? You're the lowest type of shit that exists on this site: Self-aggrandizing autists.

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>>149839557
>Everything new is either plotless garbage or a trainwreck though.

There's still the occasional anime that tries to do storytelling just like many of those older shows. Not every anime is going full tilt to try to sell merchandise to otaku or using the low road of tits and ass to market its merchandise.

Occult Nine is this fall 2016 anime season's stand out for story telling. But it lacks the positive raves of those fans who look primarily for lots of miniskirts and pantsu in choosing which bluray to buy.

>>149829376
Very few old shows are well-animated. They may have great static assets, but animation is more often recycled than soviet toilet paper.

And we got prettier colors these days.

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>>149829614
>you can't make good memes from these

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>>149858804

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>>149837559
Nostalgiafags can't function in their daily lives without strawmen, it's what drives their very being.

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>>149858912

>>149838754
God that movie was stupid and not in the funny way.