How can we save him /a/?

Make him and Vegito beat friends
Have them beat up Trunks for an entire episode

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>>149795659
We still have the lord

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>>149795659
>Whis said the Universes that total up to 13 are very closely related
>Universe 3 (the opposite to Universe 10) might have its own version of Zamasu
>yfw he shows up again in the Universal Tournament

You ningen thought you'd get away with it, did ya?

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>>149795659
>>149785722
Post yfw not even Zeno can completely erase Zamasu and istead banishes him to a void universe, hinting at a possible comeback

>>149795530
>What are fucking retcons

>>149796045
Nope He erases Immortal Zamasu, but takes Goku Black for himself, and makes him his multiverse counselor.

>>149796045
> him to a void universe,

Isn't that what the Demon World basically is?
Would make sense for him to be sent there, considering he is basically a Makaioshin who developed his wicked heart later in life.

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>>149796008
First of you spics.
Only the planets and races are indentical.
The flow of evolution has changed and there are not exactly parallel to each other like timelines. also kaioshins exist in all universes unlike ningens

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hi

>>149795659
>no Dragon Ball Super in the title
Don't make a thread if you're retarded.

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>>149796125
die

>>149796129
>>149796129
You don't need a title when you good a face that is a good as this, ningenscum.

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>>149796125
Hi

>>149796120
>unlike ningens

They exist in all universes as well, the only difference is that a Ningen race will be generally exclusive to a pair of Twin Universes.
We know for sure earthlings and saiyans are only a thing in U6 and U7, but Kaioshins are in any universe.

>>149795928
Toyotaro looks like a tall motherfucker from that angle.

>>149796143
That scene was actually really fucked up and it really showed how little the power levels we've always relied on actually count for. Because unlike the powers of the Gods, which are tied to their souls, the powers of mortals are tied to their bodies. A thing that Tori already touched on with Captain Ginyu (RIP in Earth hell, you crazy frogfucker).

It really was an outstanding bit of villainy.

Damn dragonball threads been boring lately. Ep66 really fucked up

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Reminder that the manga is basically Toyble OC with minimal Toriyama supervision, and that he also considers the anime a continuation of his manga:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!

Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?

Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

Interviewer:
> Between getting the outline and the final phase, what is the most difficult part of making the manga?

Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/01/dragon-ball-super-complete-showcase-event-reveals-series-plot/

Toriyama (After the DBS anime announcement):
> “Dragon Ball Super is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc."
> "You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"

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Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking

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>>149796377
Sure did. Trunks won through what seems like an asspull due to shit writing and Vegetto should have just been pic related

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>>149796087
>But takes Goku Black for himself, and makes him his multiverse counselor

I kinda wanna see this happen.

>His personality mostly remains the same
>But he turns into a tsundere for Zeno

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threadly reminder that if you still shamelessly defend gary sturankusue and how he got from ssj3 levels to fused zamasu levels(which can land shots to ssb vegito, of all people) in a span of 2 days without training and shit, you're a repulsive faggot who should go back to plebbit and definitely should kys.

>>149796380
>>149796413
>manga > anime
lol not any more faggots, manga is the same shit, same shit as ep66

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>>149796413
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>What is your relationship with the Dragon Ball Super anime?

>At this point, I'm not very involved with it. I think going forward, I'll be more involved, but at this point in time, I actually receive more information from the anime team than I give to them. The anime is a little bit further along than I am, but in the near future I'll be ahead, so the information will be going back to them. Regardless, we'll continue to support one another as we go forward.

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> Potara fusion for mortals aren't permanent. Meaning we can get more Vegetto and other potara fusions easily

> Trunks can absorb Spirit Bomb into his sword

Idk guys, I actually liked this episode.

On top of it being pretty decently animated, and Trunks of all people saving the day.

>>149796459
>Not yandere for Zeno
gtfo anon.

>>149796380
>>149796413
>>149796486
Does your autism knows no end? What is it that you want from us?

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how can you make the best character since 20 years the worst in one single episode? like, how the fuck is that even possible?

>>149796503
>Potara fusion for mortals aren't permanent. Meaning we can get more Vegetto and other potara fusions easily
It would be nice if it wasn't only 5 minutes effectively making it useless.

>>149796380
Amazing how you conveniently skipped

>What I receive from Toriyama is literally words on paper, without drawings or anything. So when I'm reading it, I have to fill in the blanks as far as the specifics are concerned. I think of what kinds of expressions the characters wear, which way they're looking when they say a certain line. Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see.


The part you skipped completely changes the implication of that statement. He's talking about changing Toriyama's words to a visual medium, not making up story stuff.

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>>149796503
>vegeta and goku fuse into vegito and go to the mist inside whis' staff to improve their time efficiency
>supreme kai is just sitting there with beerus and whis
>"hey kai, you want pizza?"

ningen

>>149796470
Anime Future Trunks wasn't even near SSj3 Goku tier

Which pair of universes will be the strongest? 1 and 12, 4 and 9?

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>>149796503
The speed of Vegetto vs Fusion Zamasu went by very fast...

>>149795659
By not making terrible threads on /a/.

>>149796506

Heck, I'll take anything, yandere didn't really cross my mind, but I can take it too

both sound like a hilarious aftermath

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>>149796546
I imagine those words to be.
>future trunks
>future mai
>Evil goku
>NINGEN hating kai
>gay sex in a cabin in the woods.

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I guess this is the new Super thread.

Posting best couple while I still can. Hope Mai doesn't pull an 18/Videl when she takes Trunks' monkey spunk in her rice cooker.

>>149796577
>the fusion ends, Goku and Vegeta still with the earrings
>they decide to fuse again using the Fusion Dance this time
>something goes wrong, their bodies are together but they aren't really fused
>one side is Goku, the other is Vegeta
>hilarity ensues

Will they finally have the balls for the first time since DB to actually have the heroes flat out lose in the tournament?

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>>149796546
Toriyama INSISTS that Toyble makes up his own OC

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!

Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?

Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.

>>149796577
>mist inside whis' staff
why was this a thing again? just for training? it's not like it's mentioned ever again

>>149796636
>i haven't read Dragon Ball

>yfw Shinichiro's "Son Gokuuuuuu!"

So fucking based

>>149796636
They basically lost in the u6 tournament.

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How am I supposed to go on without them? They were perfect cinnamon rolls.

>>149796601
Too fast. It didn't really convey impact properly as a result of the speed.

>>149796628
>Hope Mai doesn't pull an 18/Videl when she takes Trunks' monkey spunk in her rice cooker.

This is Dragon Ball, buddy.
No woman is important past their arcs outside of Bulma.
Bulma best girl, always.

>>149796628
Why is Videl so retarded? I actually considered her a top contender for waifu at one point but now she's a wreck. Same with 18 desu except now 18 is just vanilla as fuck

>>149796668
He said since dragonball, you illiterate.

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>>149796665
>being this retarded
All that means is one day Toei will be following Toyotaro's outline not Toriyama.

>>149796538
Going by manga logic, activating SSB takes a lot of stamina. Goku and Vegeta should've been SSB before fusing.

>>149796668
>Will they finally have the balls for the first time since DB to actually have the heroes flat out lose in the tournament?
>for the first time since DB
>since DB

Apologize to him.

>>149796380
>>149796413

Every thread.

Every god motherfucking damn thread.

What the FUCK are you trying to accomplish you autistic fucking piece of trash? What the fuck do you want? The entire mothercucking thread to say "Oh my fuck, you are so right, we are and always have been wrong, thank you for showing us the way, enlightened one"?!

I hope you fucking DIE. Every single thread with this autistic fucking bullshit and everyone tells you to fuck off every single time because no one gives a single fucking fuck about your autistic manga vs anime imaginary fucking war.

FUCKING. KILL. YOURSELF.

>>149796626
>gay sex in a cabin in the woods.
>projecting this hard

>>149796667
It's basically a superior version of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

>mfw Vegito had the literal best fight-scene of DBS so far and he got the fuck outta dodge before he'd have been written to orally service the God-King Cuncks
>mfw Trunks' character was completely ruined
>mfw Gogeta still isn't canon

Feels good being a Vegitochad.

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>>149796538
Potara (mortal): 1 hour
Fusion Dance: 30 minutes

But SS1-3, and SSB exponetially decrease the time fused.

How long would SSB Gogeta stay fused? 1 minute?

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>>149796628

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>>149796721
No it doesn't

But sure tell yourself that, toyoshill

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>>149796776
>mfw Trunks' character was completely ruined
>Toei made Future Trunks a unlikeable Mary sue.

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>>149796755
>he doesn't know

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>>149796747
Kek

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>>149795659
There's only one possible way to improve Zamasu.

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>>149796413
>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking

>>149796864
Stop this. There's no lewd pin-ups of her and this frustrates me.

>>149796693
It was a god-tier fight. I'd hope we finally get a fast-paced fight

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>>149796864
Fuck off. He is perfect the way he is.

>>149796864
I want an arc of Femasu and Black having much implied sex
I want that for normal Zamasu too desu

Reminder that Goku has lost to Yamcha, Roshi, Tao Pai Pai, Tenshinhan, Tambourine, Piccolo Daimao, Mister Popo, Kami, Raditz, Vegeta, Ginyu, Freeza, No. 19, Cell, the Cell Juniors, Beerus, Frost, Hit, Black, and Zamasu. The argument that "someone other than Goku saved the day" somehow validates asspulls is BULLSHIT!

>>149796864
>female

Fuck off, Waifufag.
Kill yourself.

>>149796910
It was well animated but poorly choreographed. I still think it's Super's best showing by a mile, and I hope the moments that matter go up from here.

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Vegetto's Spirt Sword vs Trunks's Spirit Bomb Blade?

>>149796997
Asspull blade>>>>All

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>>149796997
Spirit Sword doesn't need you to absorb energy from others.

It's quicker too

>>149796946
I hate this argument, tbqh
I understand wanting someone other than Goku/Vegeta to get spotlight, but not like this. It's like wanting ketchup on a fucking dry sandwich, then the waiter splashes mustard all over it and says "WELL YOU WANTED CONDIMENTS LMAO"
I want things, but I want them to be written with some basic semblance of quality; I'd rather it just be Goku and Vegeta getting 100% of the screen-time if Trunks becoming an OC Donut Steel-tier faggot is the alternative.

I prefer mustard but that's not the point

>>149796849

Realizing that they're both Zamasu and the only difference is one being in Goku's body and having a more mature mindset, one thinks how much they took "advantage" of Goku's body amidst all this.

>>149796380
>Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"
>quoting Toriyama before he publicly stated that the anime is shit
toppest kek

>>149796783
dance is 50% shorter, so gogeta would stay 50% less than vegetto

>>149796783
Don't you fucking dare to start this shit.
I was so fucking hyped when he was revealed in the trailer and do you know what they did?
They fucking retconned and nerfed the fuck out of the potara fusion just so that he could defuse quick enough for fucking Trunks to asspull a bullshit spiritbomb sword and get the finishing blow to make him look better.
If there is anyone fucking buttblasted and salty about how dirty they did Vegito it's fucking me.
They even put Goku and Vegeta in their old outfits just so that they don't have to give him a new design, really shows how much effort was put into his return.

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>>149797084
> "quoting Toriyama before he publicly stated that the anime is shit"

> Using a no longer relevant interview quote that Toriyama said during the MOVIE RE-TELLINGS

Muh kek

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>>149797106
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime
>149796413
>but Toyotaro's wonderfull skills allow the Dragon Ball universe to be brought back to life in the present

>>149796477
i didn't know you had a time ring anon.

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>>149797205

Tori sounds like a lazy artist who lucked out on being popular and clearly has no idea where he's going with the DB franchise. It's almost like he's literally making it all up as he goes without any forethought.

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>>149797106

>>149797205
you do realize ep 66 was done by a freelancer right? You're not even defending TOEI when you cherry pick that episode.

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>>149797205
It went from shit animation to shit writing.

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>>149797137
>They fucking retconned and nerfed the fuck out of the potara fusion

Anon they turned a "permanent" fusion that they were very not inclined to use because of that very reason, and gave it a time-limit double of Fusion Dance

If anything, it's a reason to see more Potara. It also explained the Buu Saga asspull when they inexplicably de-fused

>>149797238
ending will stay the same, potara is ruined forever

>>149796625
Drawfag here.
If it doesn't happen I will draw it for you.

>>149797301
>inexplicably de-fused
technically we did get a vague explanation of Buu's absorption.

>>149797262
>It's almost like he's literally making it all up as he goes without any forethought.

Guilty. Dude hasn't cared in a while. He's always pulled shit out of his ass. He'd prefer to just write gag manga. Had Evolution never come out (and been as bad as it was,) Super wouldn't be a thing. It's clear that Toriyama doesn't take his property seriously.

He was creative and innovative as a shonen mangaka, and quite the artist. I think that's undeniable. But the guy's attitude toward the franchise has resigned it to having its corpse dragged through concrete on the way to the bank.

>>149797301
>and gave it a time-limit double of Fusion Dance
no they didnt, its shorter than gogeta ssj4 and is literally useless now

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>>149797271
It's been better this arc. Not just episode 66.

>>149797301
I would be fine with it if the fusion actually lasted for the hour, but what the fuck can you do with a character that only lasts for 5 minutes?

>>149797364
They said Potara was 1 hour (meaning twice as long as the Dance). It was shortened by SSB

Fusion Dance with SSB would be 50% less

>>149797353
>He's always pulled shit out of his ass.
I'd like to add that while he's always pulled shit out of his ass, he did structure the narrative in a way that made these things easier to digest. It worked with his storylines, and the standout moments were really well done most of the time.

>>149797306

Godspeed, drawing anon-kun

>>149797365
you do also understand that Zamasu arc got a new anime director and an increased budget BECAUSE Toriyama complained right?
Besides, your complaining is worthless, the manga will be ahead of the anime and they will set the bar for the anime to replicate.
This is Toriyama's wish and you're going to have to deal with it.

>>149797385
Cost of transforming into SSB is great. Goku and Vegeta could Potara as SSB to save them Potara energy, and therefore have more time

Why and how does Toei get to adapt the most popular manga while doing a poor job of actually animating it? One Piece and Dragon Ball deserve better than Toei. They don't even try. When I see a episode of One Piece or Super, it's like watching an anime made from the 90s most of the time. Even the middle-average studios adapting mediocre LNs produce better quality than Toei. It's 2016, there should be minimum standards.

>>149797301
They fucked up hard with this and I dont always agree with the japs but yeah toei dropped the ball. Cant believe they wasted him only to use him as preview fodder.

>>149797365
That scene was also animated by the same freelancer.

>>149797436
Only providing my earlier point
See: >>149797205

I don't care about the manga supposedly surpassing the anime

>>149797467
Don't remember how the old kai said that you had to be in your normal form to have a stable potara fusion.
However now that he has been proven to be a troll, then I don't know what to believe in anymore.

>>149797496
Weekly long running anime.
The modern anime industry is slavery at this point be glad you get some sakuga moments out of it.

>>149797500
What all have the Japs been saying?
>>149797496
They probably just took what sounded like the best offer without knowing about the studio. It's hard to imagine any of the more reputable companies taking 500+ chapter series, too.

>>149797436
>>149797531

Proving my earlier point*

>>149797531
your "earlier point" is just as null as any other point regarding anime vs manga.
Toriyama called Toyotaro his successor and insisted him to write for the plot outlines. not only that the manga will lead the way for the anime to replicate like it should have be for all tv adaptations.
There's no point trolling and pretending to be a Toeishill, we know you're all really extinct and that this is just a ruse.

i hope zenos send trunks to the kai of time to link the xenocerse universe to the anime, that would be cool.

>>149797428
Agreed. I always knew the Androids/Cell Arc was completely on the spot, but the narrative was interesting. It was crazy how we got to Dr. Gero to Cell, but it didn't bore me and it was enjoyable watching all the characters being confused as the readers despite having one guy who literally saw the future, with the exception of Cell, who no one in the story, not even Trunks, saw coming.

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>>149797526

>>149797611
He also said the anime was a "continuation" of his manga.

Obviously Toei cannot be his "successor" because they don't make manga.

Same shit. Deal with it.

>>149797578
2chan raging about vegetto potara retcon for having limits. they not as butthurt for trunks asspull they see it as a meme and call him wonderboy.

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>>149797698
he said Super was the continuation of the manga.
Now Toyotaro and the [Dragon Ball Room] department are continuing the franchise.
Deal with it.

>>149797728
Thanks.

>>149797496
Even FMA Brotherhood is better animated than some of Toei's recent work. And that anime is almost a decade old. I don't even know why OP and Dragon Ball has to be a weekly thing. They eventually have to do filler arcs, just so the manga can catch up. I always thought it would be better for Toei just to produce a single arc for a year with a certain amount of episodes, say 30, then wait next year for the next arc. That way they don't have to do filler arcs, manga artists don't feel pressured because they'll always have a nice lead, and Toei doesn't have to make an episode every week.

>>149797698
>>149797740
>continuation
wheres bra? wheres uub? this is not a continuation this is necrophilia

Liked episode 66, I loved Zamasu's body getting more and more mutated and fucked up as the fight went on and his personality also becoming more crazy/insane. In fact i think they should have went further with that; really made him an interesting dynamic villain, best since Cell in my opinion. Vegetto did feel underwhelming, perhaps they should have made Vegetto completely dominate Zamasu and then Zamasu mutates into a further monster and the fight becomes more equalized, then Vegeta and Goku split; at least give Vegetto something to accomplish. Trunks ultimately beating Zamasu is sensible, it's trunks world and Trunks was Zamasu's original opponent; the absorbing of the spirit bomb into his sword was a cool concept although the deus ex bomb is getting kind of old at this point, maybe Trunks going SS3 or SSB would have been a better reveal

>>149797843
Uub is a toddler that was mentioned by Goku, and Bra could be born any time now. They specifically stated they want to match up to the "final chapter" so i expect her soon.

>>149796538
Remember when Freeza said Namek would explode in five minutes?

>>149797854
Cell was shit, you nigger.

>>149797888
Remember when the manga made this believable and the adaptions were shit?

>>149797816
Bones is leagues better than Toei, though. Toei is definitely poorly managed, and it shows. Like you mentioned, it would be better for Toei to produce a single arc or so, then wait for the next arc. Toei has a fuckton of shows running at the same time, anyway. The number of animators that can work on all of these properties is finite, and availability suffers for it. It really is a slave business.

>>149797891
that's your opinion, you double nigger

>>149797639
Tate is great. He's a good animator and is capable of better choreography than Shida.

>>149797891
I was thinking more of Cell's first form than Perfect Cell

>>149797843
I don't even know how Uub fits in to the story anymore. Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks have completely surpassed the Majins in terms of power. How can Uub even be considered Goku's successor when Saiyans have access to Saiyan God? Dragon Ball online/Xenoverse doesn't even mention Uub succeeding Goku's as Earth's main hero, and that game goes in detail about the other Z Warriors, such as Trunks/Krillin/Tien starting a school.

>>149797816
> conparing Toei to Bones

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is zamas alive again?

>>149798078
>I don't even know how Uub fits in to the story anymore.

He doesn't. He was retconned like Bra and Toriyama doesn't care about him too.

>>149797740
None of what you said there counters anything I said

I'm excited for the DB Room too. Cool stuff.

>>149798134
I don't know what you're saying anymore, I jumped into the thread half way.
What are you trying to prove?

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>>149797843
Uub was mentioned in DBS already.

Bra is born sometime in Age 780 (1 year younger than Pan). 8 years old in GT

>V-Vegetto was about to kill Zamasu right before the defuse

Where did that meme come from?Just because he screamed it doesn't mean it's true though.The Final Kamehameha didn't do shit to Zamasu, what do you expct from a regular punch?

>>149798187
Shouldn't Bulma be pregnant by now?

>We don't know why Vegito unfused in the Boo saga so that retcon is legit
>Super fans trying that hard to justify the bullshit from Toei

>>149798231
trunks made sure she is now

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Why is toyotaro so shit?
Uncreative fight battles.
Repetitive choreography : punch struggle+ constant speed vanishing.
Redraws tons of stuff from the original manga.
Every battle from u6 was better done in the anime.
People expect this guy to safe super?
Like he saved ssblue??

>>149798248
SSJB eating energy is from Toriyama, and Toei had ignored it up to now, when it suddenly became a factor for Vegeto. I'm pretty sure this is a Toriyama retcon.

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Who will stop the ningen dindus now?

>>149798265
Post the one that shows him tracing AF

Honestly, if any of you saw these episodes and can only complain, just stop watching already. You've obviously outgrown the story of Dragon Ball. Go watch something with a little more plot. Have you tried Game of Thrones? This isn't the story for you all to nitpick every last detail, this is the story to say HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE COOLEST FUCKING SHIT EVER

>>149798294
i hope he dies from testicle cancer

>>149798294
And I'm sure it's not, Vegito appearing in the anime is clearly a trick from Toei to appeal the audience, did you not see the hype around this episode just for him and we finally had a 2 minutes fight?
Pretty sure we won't see Vegito in the manga and Toriyama is more involved in it

>>149798265
he's doing just fine, you just sit down and enjoy your tear gas and shadow clones.

>>149798329
Don't worry, U3 Zamasu will get you covered. He will become Hit White and kill all ningen.

>>149797816
Because Toei doesn't make money out of selling blu-ray to hardcore fans, from but from tv ratings and merchandising associated with the franchise. So, keeping it on air keeps its visibility much better than taking breaks for better animation.

>>149798344
>just because it's a silly cartoon for children every plothole and instance of noticeably worse than usual writing is forgiven

I fucking love Dragon Ball, I've been in this fandom at some level since I was 7, I really like Super so far and I still think the last episode was poorly handled.

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>>149796532

>Supreme Kai and Kibito split, foreshadowing potara fusions being able to split using the dragon balls
>lel they have a time limit now btw

Why didn't they just have Vegito collect the dragon balls after he won?

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>>149798371
too bad for you, vegetto will appear in manga too

>>149798376
kek

>>149798442
Because how would we have SPECIAL BOY win if Vegito was still around?

>>149798265
Fuck off already how many times do you need to get btfo?

>>149798448
For what?Vegetto's appearance was totally useless for the serie, it would be a waste

>>149795659
>Xenoverse 3
>what if story
>Blackmasu wins
>mission where you slaughter all Ningens
>get to Zeno
>lose instantly

>>149798265
This looks fucking dope wtf are you talking about?
Frost vs goku looked hella good in the manga.

>>149798442
Because they don't want another timeskip. All three sets of Dragonball had been used this years already - and although Namek's can be used more than once a year, it'd still force them to acknowledge time moving forward several months, which would create issues with Bra.

>>149798509
The manga might portray Vegeto wounding Zamasu for Trunks better.

Also, the Buu Saga did have Gotenks SSJ3, Ultimate Gohan and even Vegetto himself even though it eventually came down to Goku and a Genki Dama.

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>>149798509
only toriyama knows this

>>149798552
So do some cool filler arcs in the meantime, something lower power that moves away from the Vegeta+Goku wank.

Maybe Piccolo goes back to namek and finds it in chaos

Maybe Tien uncovers some shit on earth

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tfw no one in dbverse can beat the one punch
feels bretty good

Manga is bad compared to the original manga, and it's not better than the anime. The fights are worse, no clue why retards praise it so much. Probably because they feel special praising a manga.

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>>149798625
>one cuck man
Literally gone in 1 second

>>149798625
Even Pan can beat Saitama.

>ningen are killing each other like savages
>I know the solution! I'm going to kill all ningen

Couldn't Zamasu just wish for the Super Dragon Balls to make Ningen stop killing each other?
This whole arc was so dumb in hindsight. It feels like something out of Legend of Korra, it even has an anticlimatic ending too.

Next villain better be a proper one.

>>149798078
Z hyped Uub so much on the last episode, especially given that Gohan, Goten, and Trunks don't care about training or fighting anymore, forcing Goku to bid on Uub.

Uub being the strongest villain reincarnated as a good guy, so Earth won't get wrecked, only makes sense if the Majins are suppose to be the last formidable race that can compete with the Saiyans after they're gone.

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>>149798660
>and it's not better than the anime.
But it is you dumb shill.

>>149798265
>tries to bash the manga
>shows how good it is
Toeifag for a reason

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T-trunks has a thick ass....

What will Dragonball be like when Toriyama names Toyotaro his successor?

>>149798707
All the art is better, yeah, but it's so rushed. Nothing is given the time it deserves.

And no, toeis speed isn't ideal either, but I'd rather have slightly drawn out over a summary. This coming from someone who haven't even watched all the DB+DBZ anime because the manga is so much better.

>>149798598
>Also, the Buu Saga did have Gotenks SSJ3, Ultimate Gohan and even Vegetto himself even though it eventually came down to Goku and a Genki Dama.

That's not even comparable and you know it, without these events you cannot go further in the story because something would be missing.

In Super, at anytime you can make Trunks pulls out his move and without Vegetto around.Just replace the Galick Gun Father Son with Goku and Vegeta taking hits while Trunks is watching and it's good

>>149798083

Everyone thinks Trunks got rid of him for good, turns out the upcoming episode tells that he's still alive, albeit with no physical body, suggesting that his spirit/essence/soul still lives, whether depicted as something not seen by the normal eye or as a mist/cloud of some sort. Since the preview suggests him "spreading to the skies", it is something at least some of the heroes can see and presence.

Might be linked to the mist Black Goku was capable of making when there was that scene of him making several clones.

>>149798732
Shut up, Mai.
Your arc is over.

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>>149798707
>oh my god a single bad frame of animation, that definitely proves the manga is so superior to the awesome fights and music of the anime!

>>149798625
>basically goku from when he ko'ed reccoome with his elbow
>looks like krillin

>>149798678
Was Trunks always able to make a sword out of pure ki? Then why bother carrying a physical sword at all?

>>149798598
>The manga might portray Vegeto wounding Zamasu for Trunks better.

Hopefully this.

It should have been Vegetto's punch that fucked up Zamasu's face and gave him the "half green/half purple" look. Having Goku do it, only to then fuse and accomplish nothing, was a questionable choice

>>149798751
Shueisha is expanding and creating it's own Dragon Ball department, they might increase the number of pages per chapter.

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>>149798746
A bunch of unoriginal garbage

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>>149798768
>Single bad frame

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Hey guys, remember?

>>149798768
>resorting to trolling
looks like you don't have an argument.

>>149798751
Thr original manga fast paced too. THats why its so much above z and kai was made.

>>149798753
>That's not even comparable and you know it, without these events you cannot go further in the story because something would be missing.
What? I mean, using that logic Goku could have finished the entire Buu Saga from the beginning. There'd be nothing "missing".

Even Vegeto's plan was completely optional. He could have just vaporized Buu and then resurrected everyone with the Dragonballs.

>>149798817
give up toeicuck, someone is just going to post that horrendous Final Flash from the anime if you think you can troll us by posting homages.

>>149798844
That was more a case of the anime being crazy slow paced from what I've seen. There's nothing wrong with the pacing of the DB and Z manga.

Both sped up in Super, and the manga really suffered for it.

Hopefully the manga will save the entire arc.

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>>149798832
I don't mind Trunks getting the kill, my only problem was Vegitto's fight being so short.
Come on, at least give it two episodes.

>>149798864
>Being x100 stronger than your opponent
>Fuck it, just vaporize your sons

>>149798732
Too bad he lost all his gains. He now looks like one of those pretty boy Korean male model singers.

I hate kid gohan new voice actor

>>149798877

Trunks arc so far doesn't feel sped up at all though. And, really only the epilogue was rushed in the U6 arc (although I can understand the complaints about the Hit battle) - but the manga itself did have some rushed epilogues like the Buu one which is just some panels without words and a mention that 6 months later they wished to make people forget Buu.

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>>149798767
I don't think so anon

>Present Mai and present Trunks
>Timeskip soon
>Future Trunks and Future Mai will return for the universe tournament, along with their kids
>Goten arc which will surely involve Trunks and the Pilaf Gang

The waifuposting isn't even close to ending friend

>>149798926
This is the same arc where they just went "Why don't you kill all humans to pass the time?"

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>>149798875
>wow such originality

Title your shitty amateur korean 10-year-old quality recolored-main-cast-as-villain utter fucking trash so I can filter it and give this garbage series the attention it deserves (absolutely none).

>>149798991
>Goten arc

Hahaha, good one.

>>149799073
But people are complaining about Zamasu turned out to be the final opponent, rather than Goku Black.

>>149799073
Filtered. Go attention whore elsewhere.

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>>149799054
cry more my dude, you're just building up more salt for when you're stuck in tv filler hell while the manga continues to lead the way.

Just fucking timeskip already past the End of Z so we can see Pan in a non-shit series

>>149799035
Piccolo had no choices and was counting on the kids even though he had no guarantee that thy would make it, it was a bet.

Vegetto knew what the fuck he was doing and obviously had the upper hand on Boo

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>>149799108
>He has no defense
Glad you understand there's no defending this shit manga anon

>>149799113
>so we can see Pan

Please, no.
Anything but that.
Who wants to see an useless female in fucking Dragon Ball?
After the Multiverse tournament they should just end the series.

>>149796997
Trunks looks much cooler but vegito version is faster

>>149797571
Long running is the world, they need to spread the budget thats why some chapters look good while others doesnt

>>149797578
They hated the vegito retcon, but they like trunks so they did not mind the spirit sword

I'll miss Zam's casual racism. I thought we would never see that kind of blind hatred for the Saiyans ever again after Frieza died , but not only did we get to see a character that not only hates Saiyans, but all ningen. And he does it with a intense passion that makes Freiza look like a casual moderate.

>>149799157
>"shit manga" is now canon
so sorry for you but the revival of the DB franchise wouldn't exist without Toyotaro at the pen.
Toei can't carry for shit and Naho Ooishi definitely wasn't good enough and she was the closest thing we had.

>>149797553
>Don't remember how the old kai said that you had to be in your normal form to have a stable potara fusion.

He said something along the line they should not fuse as super sayans because they wouldn't be able to transform back, drain energy endlessly and die because of it.

They can go fuck themselves with the retcon.
At least they should have added that these are universes 10 potaras and they work differently. But no. Fuck you.

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>>149799327
>This filthy ningen thinks he impresses me because he hates other ningen

>>149796747

Because it's for (You)'s
Shitpost to get some more (You)'s
Ctrl+V your baitpost so real post don't get viewed!

>>149796997
>>149796997
why is that faggot zamasu smiling

>>149797301
>double
you mean a 6th

>>149797553
>>149799365

What the old Kai said about transforming never made sense anyway. Goku and Gohan spent almost an entire year as SSJs and actually got stronger due to it.

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>>149798265
Cry more Toei shill

>>149798832
>>149798892
They should have handled it as such:
>Zamasu goes into Vegito fight unmelted
>Vegito fucking reks him with apex smugness
>makes him go half-purple
>makes more sense than Goku doing it because that just made Goku look weirdly more powerful than Vegito
>eventually defuse
>Zamasu still all fucked up struggling with himself
>this entire time Trunks has been trying and struggling to form a spirit bomb after saying he got training from Roshi to master it
>finally shapes it into a sword
>cuts Zamasu down the middle by surprise

>>149799482
No, they turned SSJ off when they went to sleep.

>>149799482
After Gohan defeated Cell he went back to normal, even though he had mastered the super sayan as his normale state.
That said, given that Vegito won the fight, in case he would get his stamina to zero, he wouldn't transform to normal, but keep draining energy and die.

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>>149799424
It's so these damn kids will learn to respect their senseis.

>>149799533
>>this entire time Trunks has been trying and struggling to form a spirit bomb after saying he got training from Roshi to master it
Why the hell would Roshi know how to use a spirit bomb?

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>>149799607
How short is Vegeta jesus christ

>>149799597
My bad, I thought he taught it to Goku.
I know one of his mentors did, I just fuck up remembering which. I think I just attributed it to Roshi because he taught Goku the kamehameha, his other staple move.

Will we see Vegetto again? If the battle lasted longer, Zamasu would have been ridiculed by the smugness

>>149799651
dont bully the prince of manlets

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*destroys city* KACKAROTT HOW MUCH D'YOU LOVE YER SON?

>>149799640
I hate this punch so much. To actually work it requires both arms at both lengths. Vegetas arms are clearly shorter than Gokus because Vegeta is just shorter.
Look at the last panel, Vegetas arm is such a freaking mess.

>>149799640
Is this a Toei thing or did AT use it this much in the original manga? The only manga example I can remember is Goku vs Roshi kick, where they used it as a plot point

>>149799564
yellow goku has bigger arm than blue leg

>>149799695
What did he mean by this?

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>yfw Zeno transfers the entire future Trunks timeline to the main timeline as a new universe

>>149798751
>but it's so rushed.
Nope, the anime is just padded to shit.

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>>149799867
>more trunksue
please god no

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Maifu waifu, waifu Maifu, Maifu waifu for laifu. (Stay salty Gohanfags ((Cucks (((Someone who enjoys watching their loved one have sex with another ((((Gohan))))))))))

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>>149798732
>that ass

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>>149799885
3/3

>>149799867
>Mary Cuncks has such suepowers he gets entire timelines up and moved

I can see it.

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>>149798991
This. The fun is only starting.

>>149799886
>>149799923
Laughs.
You are so anally devastated because Trunks defeated Zamasu.
My god.

>>149799893
>this body

FUCK THIS CREATURE, Trunks.
Beach episode now, Toei Please, deliver.

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Even my shitty recolors are better than the original

>>149799736
It's a Toei thing, the Goku vs Roshi kick was different because Roshi's height gave him an advantage over Goku. Allowing his kick to dig deeper than Goku's kick.
>>149799640
Here Majin Vegeta's arm magically grows in length to accommodate Vegeta being shorter.

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>>149799989
>Laughs.

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>>149799989
It's so funny to see all this butthurt.

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Guys we need to stop spamming dragonball tjrrads or else we gonna end up like naruto

>>149799989
>Laughs
end your life

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>>149800021
He will. He's just waiting until everyone fucks off to the present.

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>repeats frames
why can't Toei give us actual fight choreography?

>>149799989
>>149800089
>people are butthurt because they recognize a character being handled poorly

What was the implication here

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>>149799913
>>149800021

>>149800143
Speaking of which, you know what would be really great?
Goku paying a visit to Future Dende in New Namek before going back to the past.
Maybe they could find something useful there too.
I don't know, something which could ressurect Trunk's mother, at least.
The question is: will Toei/Toriyama/Toyble remember New Namek?

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>>149800162

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tfw best grill

>>149800046
>Here Majin Vegeta's arm magically grows in length to accommodate Vegeta being shorter.
Oh fuck. OH FUCK!

You just ruined the best animated fight in Z for me man! Thanks! What the fuck. My life is a lie.

>>149800111
Butthurt faggots false flagging

>>149799742
>>149799710
>>149799670
>>149799640
>>149799607
>>149799564

Wow, it's like they're from the same series or something.

Your shitposting game is weak, son.

>>149800211
Pretty sure Zamasu^2 already killed off all the Nameks.

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>>149798732
Turles has better ass

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>>149800219

>>149799989
>Because Trunks defeated Zamasu

why are people saying this when the preview clearly stated he's still alive

at best, he destroyed Merged Zamasu's body

>>149800146
im surprised this loop looks better than the damn loop they used for SSBxKK

>>149800344

>Making Mai sound like some slut

everyone knows Mai would faint the moment she even glances at Trunks' dick.

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>>149800388
>Tfw winning so hard not even sure if this is a falseflag Gohanfag or just a really pure anon

>>149800211
Yeah if Zamasu didn't fuck with new Namek, it would be nice if they got someone to be the new Kami or if they used their Dragon Balls to fix all that mess.

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>>149800388
It will probably take a while until she gets used to the idea of having sex. Trunks will have to be very patient.

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>>149800021
>Beach episode

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>>149800507
I argue that Trunks is the purest of the two, Mai is less pure but more modest.

How to they redeem Trunks and the ending to this arc?

>>149800648
By making him everything Gohan should have been, becoming the tritagonist, impregnating Mai every 9 months, and raising the resultant children to be actually useful.

>>149800223
>they didn't pair her with Goten
dropped

>>149800721
goten isn't a pedophile

>>149800716
That sounds awful.
More Trunks after this arc is a no-go.
Also, Cuckhan wanted to be a cuck, it was his calling.

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>>149798991
wouldn't surprise me to see Future Trunks and Future Mai return.

Maybe they will even do some "filler" episodes in the future till we reach the next Toriyama arc.
She already has a new outfit and all

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>>149800609
He was still a teenager during the Android saga, anon. I don't think he's really that pure as he used to be back then (pic related).

As for Mai, she made some "tasteless" jokes about balls during DB, but at the same time she thought Pilaf blowing a kiss was almost like rape. No no-virgin person would act like that.

>>149800740
doesn't matter they are both part saiyan

>>149800776
I was mostly joking. As someone who started watching during the Cell Saga, I would love more Future Trunks. I'm not exactly a Trunksfag, but I do have fond memories of him. Really, the best thing for him would be to make on and off appearances like the other Z-Fighters, but without being phased out like Tien or Yamcha. The Shining Spirit Slash or whatever wasn't that big of a deal, honestly.

>>149800716
>impregnating Mai every 9 months,

I'm fairly certain Future Bulma probably made a machine to make this process a lot faster in order to quickly repopulate the Earth.
For the entire year they will strap Mai in one of Bulma's machines for quick baby making with Trunks. A baby will be born after one month, which means Trunks could get 12 babies with Mai by the end of the year. I'm certain she won't mind becoming Trunks's breeding machine for some time.

>>149800877
>The Shining Spirit Slash or whatever wasn't that big of a deal, honestly.

Goku and Vegeta look like absolute jobbers, and he randomly got a power-boost from SSJ2 to fuck with a literal double-god.
Pretty much cemented DBS has zero intention for a sense of continuity or credibility in it's characters anymore. Which isn't that surprising, honestly, it's literally a sunday morning kid's show. I guess the ending to that arc is what drove that home.

>>149800787
>Old Kai looking at Vados with his pervert face
>Vados looking annoyed at him

Someone give her the dick.

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>>149800885
This machine could also make Mai more fertile, so everytime they fuck, she gets pregnant with twins, sometimes even triplets. Which means they would get at least 24 babies per year.

So do you guys think we'll get a planet sadla arc at any point?

Mai and Trunks aren't a couple you faggots. They said so on the show, stop with your shitty fanfiction

post shit you wish you could retcon
>half-saiyans have more potential

Was literally dreamed up for Gohan, and he got rejected. Make them reasonably calmer, sure. But the pure bloodlust and fighting addiction of Saiyans should make pures better overall.

>>149800929
You're taking this a little seriously, man. Remember those scenes in DBZ and Dragon Ball where Krillin threw a rock at Goku/Someone threw a rock at Roshi to test their power and it just hit them? Trunks probably bisected Zamasu through a similar means. Or maybe the Super Spirit Bomb is just made of really good Ki. I don't know.

Just get over it, man. You can't fix it.

>>149801015
Doesn't mean they can't fuck.
Trunks needs children, Mai's womb is available and ready.

>>149800885
>>149800966

Ok, stop. Too far. You've killed the magic.

>>149801015
It's like you never watched other anime where people in love deny their feelings about each other.

>>149801028
That's the issue, I was trying to take it seriously as I took DBZ and whatnot somewhat seriously.
It had it's goofy shit, but it knew when and how to put that aside and make believable villains with well-scaled heroes that felt apt challenging them.
Now they've completely buckled to the power of friendship and plot devices.

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>>149801080
Don't reply to him. He doesn't understand romantic subtext. Or he just wants (you)s

>>149801074
We are having a serious discussion about planned parenthood here, kid.

>>149801103
You can take it seriously, but just be a little more mature about it. Instead of flipping your shit when something doesn't make sense, theorize and question the offending occurance. Don't be so destructive with your confusion.

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>>149801074
Magic isn't going to help to repopulate the planet, anon.

>>149801107
Why are people bothered by Trunk's hair?

>>149801015
Gohan and Videl aren't a couple you faggots. She said so on the show that he was only teaching her how to fly, stop with your shitty fanfiction

>>149801178
Autism.

>>149801141
You've killed a perfectly good developing impregnation fetish. Now all I have is asians, SI-able b/s incest with older, boyish-acting sisters, fat tits, and monster girls.

>>149801164
When did I flip my shit?

>>149801178
because the series is famous for transforming hair colors.
This picture helps make it clear that matching hair color represents a maternal connection.

Did anyone else wanted Trunks to also die? It feels unfair that only Zamasu died while Trunks didn't have to pay the same price for fucking everything up in the first place.

>>149801214
Not talking about you specifically, just everyone in general raging about everything recently.

>>149796766
*room of spirit and time

>>149801255
Zamasu was not forced to kill every ningen by Trunks. Trunks is not responsible for Zamasu's actions, just creating the situation that allowed for it unwittingly.

>>149801255
It was only Zamasu's fault for being an edgy faggot and fucking up with all the 12 universes.

>>149798991
I want,Goten/Gohan/piccolo Ark maybe Goku and vegeta are out trainig whit beerus for a couple of filler eps,and then these 3 train a bit to end some random treath that appeared would nice meybe f-trunks can help them train since he is so Strong now

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>>149801173
Dragon Balls. New Namek. Buu Saga Earth.

>>149801203

I'm glad I could help.

>>149800787
>bulma is like 50 now
>still looks 23
>still best girl
>got hotter in super after her short down stint in the buu saga
Based bulma

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>>149801323
Repopulating in the traditional way is more fun.

>>149801359
Capsule Corp in the business of stem cells.