Anime
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/
>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.
>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/
>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.
Manga
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.
>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/
>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!
First for best couple
>>149785802
>>149785722
Why do you keep spamming this? I see it in every single DBS thread. For what purpose? Literally nobody gives a fuck about the anime vs the manga except the same autists who argue in every thread.
>>149785829
I ain't lion
>>149785802
>that thick Mai ass
>she will neversit on your face while gently stroking your cock
>>149785886
threadly reminder that if you still shamelessly defend gary sturankusue and how he got from ssj3 levels to fused zamasu levels(which can land shots to ssb vegito, of all people) in a span of 2 days without training and shit, you're a repulsive faggot who should go back to plebbit and definitely should kys.
>>149785802
I agree
cats are best
>>149786250
threadly reminder that Trunks own attacks did nothing against merged Zamasu
it was Goku's, Vegeta's and rest of humanity's power that killed Zamasu Trunks just pushed it to him
>>149786250
Nah, it was a great episode. If I watched DB for consistent writing, I would have dropped it a very long time ago.
If it bothers you that much then just stop watching it. The DB fanbase is made up of some of the worst crybaby manchildren I've seen.
After last episode, I don't give a shit anymore.
>>149786250
>plebbit
>kys
You're literally the only repulsive faggot here.
>it's bad when Trunks gets asspull techniques but totally fine when Gohan does it!
>>149786405
>Totally fine
have you even searched how mad people got over it
besides he asspulled best SS for for us :^)
>>149785722
>>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!
Why Toriyama.
You can save us from that horrible ending
>>149786017
Don't be green with envy
playable fucking when?
>>149786552
My TruMai folder is getting too large
>>149785886
ba dum tss
>>149786592
same for my Mai folder. Not complaining though.
Who would of guessed she would get so much new art a few years ago
>>149786592
Good thing that I'm really picky with the stuff I save, or else my folder would be huge too.
My Trunks folder is getting ridiculously large though.
>>149786472
Because you people care about this waaaay more than Toriyama ever did, he never hid the fact that he make things up as he goes. I mean, look at the Cell saga interviews and you will see why we got Androids 16, 17,18 and Cell, and also why Cell has so many forms.
>>149786587
Black already is
Zamasu willbe mentor
Does anyone have that Toyotaro Star Wars meme please?
Hopefully we're done with Trunks.
I like him a lot but I believe if he sticks around or appears again, he'll get worse like the rest of the cast.
>>149786747
Yeah, the Cell saga is one of the worst in this regard. His editor kept telling him to make a new villain because he was never happy with the androids Toriyama created.
>>149786472
>Why Toriyama.
>You can save us from that horrible ending
Toei a shit, wait for the superior manga. Which Toriyama is more involved with.
>>149787527
Wait for more autistic fucking cart racing and "muh SSB 10% power" nonsense?
>>149787620
>butthurt Toei shill
Top kek
>>149787527
>He's not a thing like Future Trunks!
Poor Kid Trunks.
>>149787231
Having just androids would have been boring though. I have no idea how he could have padded that out. Then again the 5 mins for a planet exploding was like 5 episodes.
Gohan! We need your help to defeat Zamasu.
Show me your true powers.
>>149787650
>hurr hurr you don't like retarded filler trash
>must be butthurt le toeishill xD
Fuck off, I don't like the trash anime any more than anyone else, but you fucking shithead autists acting like the manga is the second coming of christ make me want to vomit. It's fucking shit and makes no sense.
>>149787727
Did anyone lose their shit at Zamasu's voice breaking when Trunks showed up to block his sword?
''MATA NE TURANKUSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU?'REEEEEEEEEEE''
>>149787729
>being this mad
HAHAHA
Calm down, Toei shill.
>>149787672
>king vegeta will never see what a magnificent warrior vegeta has become and what a powerful family he got
>>149787750
I said your true powers.
>>149787767
>toei shill hehehe i'm so le funny
And more buzzwords and memes. I expect nothing else from a Toyotarocuck, but fuck you anyway.
>>149787750
>>149787750Luffy > Goku
:^)
>>149787620
>>149787811
>and "muh SSB 10% power" nonsense?
I'm not even that anon, but your only criticism of the manga is that SSB being reduced to 10% power in a 2nd use doesn't make sense... which... also doesn't really make sense as a complaint.
I mean, you can clearly dislike the idea, but it doesn't contradict anything in the manga itself, so I don't see how it's "nonsense". And, really, you think a single power issue makes the manga worse than all the characterization oddness with Goku, inconsistent art and power in the anime/
>>149787818
>Why isn't my adult son here hurraying for me but making money like people who are productive memebers of society
>>149787794
But, dad...this is my full strength...
>>149787892
toei RoF was a mistake
>>149787961
Filler, SSG even though it's not supposed to be a transformation anymore, shitty Hit, shitty Frost, shitty Whis designs, no SS2 Goku vs Black, probably no Vegito.
Fuck the manga.
>>149787231
>An old guy and a fat clown? Are you joking?
>Two kids? What are you on?
>Two kids and some big goofy fuck?
>An alien bug? What?
>A thick lipped alien bug? Are you shitting me?
>"Perfect Cell?" Eh, could be worse.
Trunks even says the Artificial Humans were called #19 and #20, then when he sees those two he says "Those aren't #17 and #18! Did I somehow change the future already?!"
For what it added, it's a pretty cool story arc.
>Cell, a creepy clone monster containing the DNA of the Z-warriors and Freeza/Kold
>The idea that the creator of Hatchan was still alive and making monstrosities
>#18 and her relationship with Kuririn
>Greatest character ever Mr. Satan
>>149787811
>And more buzzwords and memes
>autistic
>muh
>hurr hurr
>butthurt le
>xD
>Toyotarocuck
pot calling the kettle black, toei shill
>looping the same frames over and over
HYPE!!!!
>>149788105
Oh look it's that anon that posts the same webms over and over again. I like the manga better too, but what exactly are you trying to prove? Nobody is defending the animation in those webms, and it's no secret that the RoF arc in Super has some of the shittiest animation I've ever seen.
People have different opinions, stop being so autistic about it.
>>149788105
>defending fucking Mario Kart filler and SSG
Are Toyoshills really this cancerous?
>>149788235
>that deflection
>>149788074
>Filler, SSG even though it's not supposed to be a transformation anymore
Oh, come on, and SSJ2 and SSJ3 are supposed to be weaker and consume more energy than SSJ God post-BoGs if you go by that interview. It's a freaking interview, not a canon work. Toriyama given multiple contradictory epilogues for Tenshinhan in interviews too.
>shitty Hit
I can understand that, although manga Hit is fine with me even if he isn't quite as strong as his anime counterpart. Dodging Goku SSJB's full powered Kamehameha is still pretty good.
>shitty Frost
I don't get this. Almost everyone hates anime Frost after his facade was broken. Manga Frost's facade was more boring, but at least he wasn't Freeza mk2, just someone who didn't want to waste time in the tournament.
>shitty Whis designs
What?
>no SS2 Goku vs Black
The manga has already established that Black is significantly stronger than SSJ3 Goku anyway, which is a better build up than in the anime where Goku and Vegeta didn't take him seriously before SSJ Rose's debut.
>probably no Vegito.
Vegito will be in. He's appearing in tons of products at the same time, unlike SSB Kaioken or Trunks new form. There's no way he's a Toei creation.
Is Tarble canon?
>>149788357
What point is this trying to make?
>>149788026
I'm disappointed.
>>149788398
Yes, he is mentioned in BoG.
>>149788218
No point in complaining now. Mangafags have been going on nonstop. The huge copypasta of quotes that have now become the OP in these threads isn't any different.
>>149788074
>SSG even though it's not supposed to be a transformation anymore
Never stated in the manga.
>shitty Hit, shitty Frost, shitty Whis designs
All of these are better in the manga.
>no SS2 Goku vs Black
Because the anime version was so good right?
>probably no Vegito.
>No tack on nostalgia bullshit which doesn't amount to shit
Good.
>>149788398
Comparing Trunks' SSJ2's design in the anime, where he was just SSJ1 with lightning, with the manga's (note the manga's hair). They kind of fixed him later in the anime with that "new form" though.
>>149786900
>mentor
But he hates ningens, how he will be a mentor if all the races are ningens?Is Buu a ningen too?
>>149785722
>>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
And this is how potara got nerfed to hell.
>>149788492
I don't think demons count as ningen. I actually wonder what Zamasu would say about them.
>>149788492
he will say that you are doing good for ningen but will never surpass or achieve that power of a kami
also yes buu is a ningen made by ningen and controlled by a ningen
>>149787792
He is literally crying tears of joy in hell after seeing his grandson from the future becoming the strongest saiyan that have ever existed.
As shitty as GT was, the final moments of the movie were really good.
Of course, that's not because of GT, it's because they make you think about the franchise and the characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CgwpecWlWc
>>149785802
Will you shipper/waifufags finally leave once this shitty arc ends?
>>149788398
People are sperging out over the curves in his hair in a form that Trunks has only had in video games until now.
>>149788554
> made by ningen
Didn't Babidi find him somewhere?
>>149786068
This fanart is wrong.
If this scenario would have taken place then that is the first time that Trunks would have on purpose destroyed the laws of time traveling.
>>149788324
>posts a between frame
Good example, faggot. Next you'll start posting the shit from episode 5 last fucking year.
>>149788327
>Oh, come on, and SSJ2 and SSJ3 are supposed to be weaker and consume more energy than SSJ God post-BoGs if you go by that interview. It's a freaking interview, not a canon work. Toriyama given multiple contradictory epilogues for Tenshinhan in interviews too.
He stated over and over that he didn't want SSG to be a new transformation, but a one-time thing. The manga said nope, fuck that, it's SS3.5.
>I don't get this. Almost everyone hates anime Frost after his facade was broken. Manga Frost's facade was more boring, but at least he wasn't Freeza mk2, just someone who didn't want to waste time in the tournament.
Frost had no character in the manga. He was just a boring Frieza reskin.
>What?
Whis looks like shit in the manga pretty consistently. Just look at him when Beerus and Champa are fighting.
>The manga has already established that Black is significantly stronger than SSJ3 Goku anyway, which is a better build up than in the anime where Goku and Vegeta didn't take him seriously before SSJ Rose's debut.
Then Goku could just go SSB (or fucking SSG) and fight him like that. That would make him seem more threatening anyway. But nope let's have Trunks fight someone who is much stronger than SS3 Goku and not die immediately.
>>149788469
>Never stated in the manga.
wew
>All of these are better in the manga.
Nice elaboration, Toyoshill.
>Because the anime version was so good right?
Better than FUCKING CART RACING.
>Good.
Shitty taste.
>>149788607
Thats a retcon. Originally he made him. Then about 5 years ago someone asked Toriyama again and he went 'lolprimordialbeingfloatinginspace' because Toriyama is a hack.
>>149788575
Anon shippers are like cockroaches.
No matter how much you try to bring them down they will only come back stronger.
>>149785878
>shipper/waifufags spamming the same images over and over in every thread is ok, but not info regarding the production of the series
Hell no one was complaining when that shitty Ningen meme was being spammed to hell.
>>149788607
he found him and made him more powerful or some shit like that>>149788659
>>149788410
But...dad...I have a family
>>149788659
t.bh I prefer the retcon version.
Both Bibidi and Babidi were hacks and the idea of someone like them creating something that powerful seems far fetched.
>>149788625
Yeah but it's still fun to imagine what would happen if they met.
>>149788607
How did Bibbidi make Majin Boo? What process was there, what were Boo’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibbidi made him, the truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibbidi merely knew the means of calling Boo from out of his long slumber. Since the current Boo is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Boo was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.
>>149788575
Even if F Trunks/F Mai don't show up again, there's still Trunks and Mai from the present. So, no.
>being this triggered over Mario KartIt's the blue shell isn't it?
>>149788766
Boring filler trash, anon. Boring. Filler. Trash.
>>149788575
lel no
>>149788719
And so do I. That's why I'm training to protect them.
So much potential Gohan, it's a shame.
>>149788726
We already know anon.
Trunks would continue to tell Goku, and the rest how it is wrong to interact with the people of the past, but after he sees his Mai he go from being a good mommas boy to fuck you mom, and fly of somewhere with DB-Mai
>>149788766
I guess those driving lessons finally came handy for Goku
>>149788575
/a/ isn't your hug box.
>>149788793
>anything that isn't punching is filler
Top kek
Also Shit taste
>>149788766
Vegeta just can't stop jobbing.
>SSG made Beerus use 70% of his power
>SSB is stronger plus Whis said that Goku and Vegeta together can beat Beerus
>Yet SSBx10 Kaioken isn't stronger than Beerus
>>149788829
>still defending this retarded filler shit
>what is character development
>what are relationships between character
>lol nah, Mario Kart
And I have shit taste, okay faggot.
>>149788398
>Tarble
gotta love that wife of his
>>149788841
>retards can't stop spamming buzzwords they don't know the meaning of
>>149788870
This shit has been retconned for so long I'm convinced you've been living under a rock
Best boi suckers hahahahaha
Everyone else will be forever in his shadow. not even vegito can do shit against boi. even beerus would tremble in fear.
Never forget his power.
>>149788870
> What are retcons
>>149788877
>what are relationships between character
Anon, you stupid.
>>149788907
Disgusting asspulls
>>149788906
DROPPED
>>149788934
>using Trunks letting himself win a cart racing game as an example
Toyoshills are incredible.
>>149788870
Also ignoring the Cell saga training,
"Kaioken is only possible with calm Ki"
Toei a shit
>>149788954
>t.butthurtvegettofag
Keep crying you faggot
>>149788906
You fucks are really enjoying yourselves aren't you
>>149788906
D R O P P E D
RR
O O
P P
P P
E E
D D
>>149788980
>reaching this hard
Top kek
>>149789007
You faggots made fun of us years ago.
This is our fucking time
>>149789046
>REACHING THIS HARD
You're probably too fucking stupid to understand why that is hilarious to me, Toyoshill.
>>149788906
>Trunksue
>Sue
>Mary sue
-.-
>>149788812
>Trunks fucking up the past because he is in love and horny for Mai
It would be nice to watch/read a what-if special about this.
>>149788998
Maybe the potara shit is also their doing?
>>149789049
Enjoy it, faganon. Enjoy your time, brief and fleeting as it is.
For THE ONE will soon return. And then we'll be the ones laughing.
>>149789007
People being so butthurt about it makes it even more fun.
>>149788906
Trunks used to be a top character.
Really well written one.
As of now he is the worst.
>>149788748
bullshit pulled from your ass, I read the manga Buu was created
>what were Boo’s ingredients
fucking magic your idiot is a shonen gag manga
>>149789088
Why use the old gohan when we have the superior version already?
>>149788640
>He stated over and over that he didn't want SSG to be a new transformation, but a one-time thing.
He stated it in a single interview, while he also has made other off hand remarks in interviews that have been contradicted later by himself or the new series.
He reviews every chapter of the manga and it's even known he redrew two pages in the beginning of the tournament arc. If SSJ God returning went against his will so much he'd have stopped it.
>Frost had no character in the manga. He was just a boring Frieza reskin.
He was apparently an honorable fighter and Piccolo sensed no 'violent intention' from him, and then it turns out he was a cheater who just wanted to get out of that tournament. Yeah, still not a "good guy", but he wasn't "Freeza-like" in the manga.
>>149789133
Toriyama retconned it as Buu basically being an Elder God that Bibidi found out how to control you enormous gaping asshole.
>>149789133
How did Bibbidi make Majin Boo? What process was there, what were Boo’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibbidi made him, the truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibbidi merely knew the means of calling Boo from out of his long slumber. Since the current Boo is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Boo was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.
Toryiama>you
>>149789166
>inb4 m-muh hackiyama
>n-nice headcanon
>a-animefag!
Fuck toryiama and hia stupid headcanon retcons.
He is the george lucas of anime.
Potara retcon was midichlorian 2.0
>>149788998
I guess it works like exercise.
You need to run long distances regularly to build up stamina.
Goku and Gohan stopped spending all day as super saiyans, so they lost the calm ki thing.
>>149789166
Nice headcanon animefag, but everyone knows Toriyama is a hack. Death of the author bitch.
>>149789080
Anon expect a lot of doujins for them once they leave.
>>149789161
where? in your dreams? you cum slurping retard?
>>149789204
>>149789210
Fucking Christ on a cross with cancer
>>149789209
Or Toei sucks
>>149789223
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-june-2014-issue-twel-buu-mysteries/
you goddamn stupid pants on head retarded bitch.
>>149789166
if is not in the manga is not cannon, I dont give a fuck what a 60 year old Toriyama says 20 years after he finished the original manga
>>149789210
>>149789196
Lol the butthurt in this thread.
Episode 66 must have left a huge hole in your sry asses
>>149789244
Well yeah, that's the real reason.
I try to make up headcanon to fill up the plot holes.
>>149789256
Why are you still here?
Dbs is also not in the manga and is being written by a 60yo
Jusy fucking leave you huge mongol fag
>>149789255
FUCK YOU AND READ THIS:
>>149789256
>>149789256
>I don't care what the author says about his own creation
>I refuse to accept facts as facts because I don't like them
Explain to me how it feels to be this retarded. Do you function differently than other humans?
>>149788906
>>149788954
Okay, but how did Black appear in Trunk's timeline - all things considering, he should have appeared in another different future.
>>149789166
The Kaiōshin are said to have the highest status in the universe, but how can you become a Kaiōshin?
No one can. Kaiōshin are born as Kaiōshin.
Toryiama retcons every 5seconds with the dementia that he has.
Dbs super is literally written by an old retarded man. Its just a living meme at this point.
>>149789323
Time Rings can take people to other timelines. He learned about Trunks time traveling when Zuno told him everything about Goku and went there in order to make Trunks suffer (anime version, manga version is different).
>>149789323
Toei a shit
>>149789330
Gowasu was just giving zamasu false hopes. he only used hik to get tea.
Gowasu is the most based character
>>149789301
midiclorians are canon too?
FUCK YOU AND FUCK TORIYAMA DRUNK WHILE TALKING SHIT IN A INTERVIEW YOU MONGOLOID IMBECILE
>>149786747
The Cell Saga is pure storytelling cancer. It's mindless super saiyan/powerlevel wank.
>>149788160
kind of what I like about anime. They take the simplist approach and make it work.
>>149789211
I can't wait. I've been wanting doujins since this arc started.
>>149789374
>being this mad
It's like Toriyama changing details of his own fucking story is a personal insult to you or something.
>>149789374
Also Star Wars is and always has been overrated shit, nobody gives a fuck what is and isn't canon.
>>149787761
Lmfao hell yeah. The eyes on this episode were some of the funniest I've seen. Needs some laz0rs.
>>149787724
>Having just androids would have been boring though
Make the arc shorter.
>>149789447
That's how retarded this fanbase is. They act like Toriyama/Toei/whatever raped and killed their mom or something.
>>149789437
>make it work
>>149789130
Try to change it, you will ruin it. Try to hold it, you will lose it.
Hello guys I never watched gt before so I started watching the subs because of the ost. not sure why but bruce dropped the ball with gt.
Anyway ended the series and I can see why its being joked upon. it got nothing on dragonball but if gt ended with baby. it could have been an acceptable series.
Super17 is probably the supidest shit ever and shadow dragon was just as bad.
>>149789485
If you think these posts are retarded, never read the comment section of a DBS clip on youtube. Bunch of faggots crying about nostalgia and "badass" fights while admitting to never watching/reading the original Dragonball.
>>149789469
Movies and clone wars and the disney series.
Expanded universe(comics/videogames are not canon)
Wouldn't Vegito's outfit be a bit different since Vegeta's outfit is different from his Buu Saga outfit?
>>149789485
I don't get why the detail about Buu is causing him to sperg out so badly. I personally think it makes more sense for Buu to be a naturally-occuring demon than for some hack like Bibidi to create something that absurdly powerful.
>>149789571
Filler shit who cares.
I wish they stayed in their whis clothes.
You can see its filler or else they would have to redesign vegetto and which toryiama probably wouldnt approve upon.
>>149789531
>bruce dropped the ball with gt
Mark Menza scored the GT dub, Bruce Faulconer only did the Ginyu Saga to near the end of Majin Buu I think, Menza did the rest.
>>149789626
Step Into the Grand Tour motherfucker
>>149789604
>Filler shit who cares
How the fuck is it filler you retard? Do you even know what that word means?
>>149789709
You're in a Super thread. Anything faggots don't like is filler or headcanon.
>Toryiama responds when Z started.
The series has finally gotten popular, and now you want to go and change everything!” That was the kind of reaction I got.I didn’t care about that.
>>149788906
I never liked Trunks-kun to be honest desu
but alas
enjoy shitting your pants over him
>>149789709
Everything that is not in toryiama's plotline is filler.
>>149789507
okay, not every company can do it.
>muh consistency in muh powerlevel shonen!
You nerds are embarassing
>>149789892
No, what's embarassing is that the underage aren't supposed to post here so all the venting about powerlevels would be coming from grown up.
>>149789981
Trash. Frieza 2.0.
Dragonball is dead.
RIP
All they had to do to satisfy the fanbase was the following:
>Have Goku's kamehameha do nothing to Zamasu
>Out of options they fuse to become Vegito
>Vegito fights Zamasu breaking his god cresent (end of episode)
>Zamasu becomes so agitated he becomes corrupted turning half his body into purple slime
>Fight becomes more intense but Vegito maintains the upper hand
>Vegito tries destroying Zamasu to no avail
>Trunks comes in and tag teams Zamasu( end of episode)
>While Trunks is holding off Zamasu Vegito does thinks of a way to defeat Black Zamasu
>Spirit bomb was the only way to make it happen
>Use the galick spirit bomb to finish off Zamasu
>Zamasu slowly regenerates
>Zeno comes in to disintegerate him because he wants to play with Goku
>They travel back to the past and use the dragon balls to split the fusion but Zeno tells them he has to the power and does it using his own power
That would have made everyone happy. Why didn't they do it this way? Hell this could have been a 4 episode
>>149790166
>satisfy the fanbase
There is no satisfying this fanbase. No matter what happened, they would complain.
>>149789981
Love Toyotaro's art.
>>149790166
>While Trunks is holding off Zamasu
We still have the problem here
>Zeno comes in to disintegerate him because he wants to play with Goku
But in your version it still vegito and goku hasnt even pushed the button.
>>149790166
You forgot
>Vegito meets everyone
>Hilarity ensues with Chi Chi and Bulma
>Vegito challenges Beerus to a fight
>Defeats Beerus but can't take out Whis
>Satisfied he ends the fusion
I like the idea of Zeno taking out Zamasu instead of fucking Trunks hero sword shit
>>149790190
though last episode was indeed bullshit
>>149786405
>Gohan has been established from day 1 to asspull power when he gets mad
>Trunks was established from day 1 to be a complete fuck up who was going to just let Cell kill him when Cell pointed out how much of a fuck up he was
>>149790121
How many other franchises get 30 years like that?
>>149786405
Except Gohan has no asspull techniques retard.
>>149790190
This episode would have gone down as one of the best in Super if they didn't retcon Vegito
>>149790274
Star wars
>>149790256
>Defeats Beerus
No, Vegitofag.
>>149790308
>>149790308
>This episode would have gone down as one of the best in Super
Not with Future Trunks' asspull
>>149785722
Reminder that the manga is basically Toyble OC with minimal Toriyama supervision, and that he also considers the anime a continuation of his manga:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/
Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?
Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
Interviewer:
> Between getting the outline and the final phase, what is the most difficult part of making the manga?
Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/01/dragon-ball-super-complete-showcase-event-reveals-series-plot/
Toriyama (After the DBS anime announcement):
> “Dragon Ball Super is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc."
> "You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"
>>149790313
>Also ruined by a Mary Sue
I'm noticing a trend here
>>149790266
I think most people agree with that. It's not the fact that Trunks got the kill, he honestly deserved it since this was his arc in the first place. It's how he got that kill. Nobody can sit there and tell me that wasn't absolute bullshit. I still enjoyed the episode but I can understand why people are getting upset over that.
>>149790330
I think people would forgive that a little if this wasn't a total bait and switch.
>>149790236
Wait would the button still be in his pocket if they fused?
>>149790335
Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime, so it seems that Dragon Ball has grown on me [so] much that I can't leave it alone.
Lol
>>149787527
>(Manga) Which Toriyama is more involved with.
Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!
Right...SO involved. As far we know, he only gives the "okay" for Toyble's storyboard.
>>149790372
Zamusa kept the time ring, so I don't see why Goku wouldn't keep the button
>>149785722
>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
He should do the same for Toei, they need it.
>>149790383
Can toeifags ever recover?
>>149788878
>She's literally as tall as my dick
>>149790383
Ah forgot about that one.
Good to know we have the manga to count on.
>>149790427
>As far we know, he only gives the "okay" for Toyble's storyboard.
Nope, see >>149785722
>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review,
>review
>and then he'll give me input and suggest changes
>When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with,
>but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct.
Nice try, Toei shill
>>149789088
>that anime glass glint
reminder that it will never happen
>>149790383
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime
What did he mean by this ?
>>149790500
It will, you fuck. You know it will.
>>149790427
Amazing how you conveniently skipped
>What I receive from Toriyama is literally words on paper, without drawings or anything. So when I'm reading it, I have to fill in the blanks as far as the specifics are concerned. I think of what kinds of expressions the characters wear, which way they're looking when they say a certain line. Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see.
The part you skipped completely changes the implication of that statement. He's talking about changing Toriyama's words to a visual medium, not making up story stuff.
>>149790166
No this is dumb. This is how you finish off the arc.
I agree with Vegito taking out Zamasu's white arc but I want the final kamehameha to do it.
From then on
>Zamasu emotional inbalance causes him to get mutated as seen in the episode
>They exchange blows rocking the planet
>Vegito has the upper hand but all of Zamasu's wounds heal
>Trunks tell Bulma to make enough fuel for 2 trips
>Trunks goes back in time to get a near mafuba jar and the seal
>Vegito is winning but eventually gets tired
>Zamasu starts to get the upper hand
>Mai snipes Zamasu from afar to distract him
>Trunks comes back in to the future
>Vegito gives a piece of his energy to Trunks to allow him to fight Zamasu for a while
>Vegito saves Trunks from getting killed and kicks Zamasu ass until he is weakened
>Uses Mafuba
>Fight ends
The mafuba was learned for this enemy and should end the fight. It should be used as the final option since there is no other way to take him out. Zeno or Trunks taking out Black Zamsu is dumb .
>>149790383
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime
>Even Toriyama doesn't like the DBS anime
Top kek, get fucked Toei
>>149790383
Toei were always cheap bitches
>>149790383
Trunksfags btfo
>>149790520
it won'tsadly
I like that effect
>>149790383
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime
No shit, look at it.
>>149790383
He was talking about gt you faggot
>we could have has Vegeta attempt to quickly train Trunks in how to harness God ki, both as a way to foreshadow Super Trunks and actually explain how Vegeta first managed to transform into a Super Recolor Blue
>instead we got a random rage power up
>could've nused the fusion dance to actually have Gogeta show up but Zamasu's partial immortality is enough to stall him until he defuses but the clash weakens Zamasu enough for Trunks to step in
>instead we get shittily retconned potara and Trunks pulls a Genki Dama out of his ass
>>149790542
Doesn't the fuel take 24 hours to make? So you want Vegito to hold off Zamasu for 24 hours+?
So we are assuming the potara lasts forever
>>149790555
This. If those fuckers weren't so greedy DBS could have gone to a decent studio. Imagine Madhouse,Mappa or Ufotable doing DBS. The writing would still probably be shit, but at least it would look good.
>>149790617
KINO
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>>149790497
No wonder the manga is better.
>>149790527
You always reply with this.
You're always wrong. I might as well copy pasta, like you, the reply since you insist on being retarded.
Toriyama INSISTS that Toyble makes up his own OC
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/
Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?
Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.
>>149790166
Vegito presses the button since he has no choice and calls in Zeno would be refreshing. Instead of killing the opponent himself, he gets someone else to take care of it.
>>149790620
Trunksfags on suicide watch
>>149790620
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime.
>the new TV anime.
>new
>>149790589
>>149790698
What the fuck does it have to do with Trunks?
>>149790667
>being this retarded
All that means is one day Toei will be following Toyotaro's outline not Toriyama.
>>149790497
>>149790644
Except this contradicts what Toyble said later:
Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
Toriyama is basically a lazy, hands off guy, that writes skeleton scripts for both Toei AND Toyble.
And he encourages Toyble to do his own OC.
Someone give us a plausible case of how Vegito can take out an immortal enemy in Zamasu.
Go on, give us your answer. Final kamehameha, big bang kamehamha won't do the job. The floor is all yours.
>>149790767
See >>149790527
Retard
>>149790383
>>149790553
>now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime
>>149790812
>but Toyotaro's wonderfull skills allow the Dragon Ball universe to be brought back to life in the present
>>149790809
Obviously by slashing him from the dick upwards with a sword
Worked for Trunks
>>149790809
I said it above, Galick spirit bomb will do the job. If Trunks an do then so can Vegito. I am so fucking pissed with how they ended Zamasu.
>Prefer the manga over the anime
>Found out the US releases of Dragon Ball Full Color are uncensored, other than Popo's lips, good enough for me!
>They're also far bigger than the tiny Japanese release, as big as US graphic novels
>Japanese sound effects left alone
>The 2004 Kanzenban ending was used for the Full Color version, never before released in the US
>20 volumes in Japan.
>3 came out in 2014
>None came out in 2015
>4 came out in 2016, the final Freeza arc volume comes out in Jan. 2017
If we don't see "Cell Arc Vol. 1" listed for March 2017 soon I'm going to scream. Hopefully they only waited a year to see if the rest came out in Japanese, and they're taking their time to fix the name changes in the Boo arc and the translate the 2004 ending.
>>149790383
Toeishills RIP
English isn't my first language , but what is that little intro of the title called right when the episode is going to start?
>>149791051
A fuerta paco
>>149788160
it looks good though
Anyone else play xv2?
What's his name?
>>149790995
I wonder if the DBS manga will get a full color version.
>>149791136
Wonderboy
>>149791136
Mary Sue
>>149791122
Maybe a little
>>149791136
Trunks the best boy.
>>149791136
onii-chan~
>>149791136
The fanbase destroyer
>>149791136
Super Saiyan Asspull Trunks
>>149791188
>tfw bra is actually mai and trunks' child
I just realized why Super's Goku feels so weird. He's basically Luffy now. They've taken character traits from Goku and use them totally inappropriately.
>>149791197
So he just turned shit into shit?
>>149791236
Trunks is his own father
>>149791188
>Trunks eventually ditches the hag for Bra
>>149791288
Toei flanderized Goku's character but in the DBS manga he's normal.
>>149789218
>>149789267
>>149790383
>>149790454
>>149790481
>>149790553
>>149791036
>"I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime"
You know this interview was done during the time of the movie re-tellings right?
>>149791348
>>149791440
>we've move up from shit animation and art quality to just shit animation
Wasnt shueisha supposed to expand the dragonball verse???
Where the fuck are they at?
how long do we have to handle toryiama's dementia. GIve us the abrams of dragonball already
>>149791136
Gary Strunks
>>149791236
That would be a fun retcon.
>>149791185
>When Mai touched herself.
Everything seemed so weird, and mysterious for the young maiden. In the 70 years of her existence she had never meet someone as kind and good looking as humanity's last hope known as the boy that is Trunks Brief.
During the months of their survival Trunks meet her fell things like never before, and here she was touching herself
''Trunks... hurry up and beat Black''
Trunks still don't know that Mai is like, 30 years older than him?
>>149791519
>GIve us the abrams of dragonball already
We already have our mary sue now
>>149791536
That would actually be good.
Then Bra won't get all of the slut genes from the Brief family.
>>149791519
They just created the department that's going to do that.
Although, really, you think an unsatisfying finale written by the writer of freaking POKEMON XY is Toriyama's fault?
>>149791575
doesn't matter. pilaf gang wished themselves young in trunks timeline as well
Why can't animefags just enjoy the anime and mangafags just enjoy the manga?
>>149791141
I just want to replace my censored, dirty and clunky tankobon and VizBigs.
The English Dragon Ball Super Volume 1 is coming out next year too though.
>>149791644
Don't worry.
I am sure the hate he is currently getting from the Nibs will surely make him want to become a better writer, or kill himself.
>>149791136
Cucks
>>149791440
>>149791702
A lot of the hype for Super comes from the fact that it's supposedly Toriyama's work. When people (generally manga fans) start talking about how stuff is just Toei creation it annoys the anime fans - which is also why they try to argue that the manga is mostly Toyotaro's ideas.
>>149791519
>Blaming Toriyama for Toei's shit writing
Fuck off, retard.
>>149791644
This is our current director.
He was part of the writters of digimon tamers.
His latest work was saint seyia omega never watches it.
>>149791508
>to just shit animation
You must have high standards for a weekly shounen
>>149791644
>you think an unsatisfying finale written by the writer of freaking POKEMON XY
?
>>149791743
>>149791779
Considering Toriyama's involvement in Battle of Gods turned that into the massive pile of shit it was, yes I'll blame the senile old fuck as much as I want
>>149791794
Saint seyia omega was a big flop...
I know because I am a spic and oh boy was ot shit.
>>149791560
Mai will get so wet if she finds out how Trunks gave her that senzu.
>>149791836
>Battle of Gods turned that into the massive pile of shit it was
>>149791836
> BoG Movie
> Shit
You have shit taste and you should feel bad
>>149791828
These last two episodes' scripts are credited to Atsuhiro Tomioka, the main writer of the Pokemon XY and XY&Z anime.
>>149791794
Omega was trash. No wonder super is so fucking rushed.
>>149791794
>>149791857
>saint seiya omega
Holy shit, I live in a country where Saint Seiya is the most popular anime of all time, needless to say that everyone here despises Omega more than anything
How far behind the anime is the manga storywise?
>>149791939
In the last chapter the manga was in the part where gowasu and zamasu travel to the babari planet
>>149791863
the things he does when she sleeps / is unconscious
>>149791939
Goku literally just said hi to Zen-chan.
>>149791939
The manga is very behind. Toyble will have to rush through this arc if he wants to catch up
>>149791832
Shit
>>149791794
Oh lol the asspull seemed familiar.
In omega the battles were all over the place it was so fucking hard to watch without getting frustrated.
>>149791976
>>149791984
>>149791989
There must be a lot of filler coming up then.
Why does Trunks have blue hair? This is probably my biggest gripe with Super so far
>>149791885
>>149791898
>the terrible retcons Beerus brought with him
>Beerus
>Super Saiyan God and everything involving it, including the form itself being basically brushed off for Super Saiyan by the end of it
Yeah, it's pretty bad a movie
>>149792023
>>149785802
slut
>>149791794
>His latest work was saint seyia omega
Oh, well that explains it. How are the Japs taking this?
Isn't the One Piece anime going on hiatus soon? We may see a consistent bump in Super's animation if so since that's one less series to work on.
>>149791794
Trunks new ssj.... is the 7th sense lmao my sides
>>149787985
>productive memebers of society
shut up fucking slave
>>149785802
>Mai and Trunks best couple
Will our true OTP ever return?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-XhQeFzW4
>>149791794
Omfg... he pulled the same fucking ending on us then in omega.
Seyia jobs only for koga to receive the power of everyone to kill of the main villain asspull. I should have looked it up cant believe it
>>149792168
Eat shit commie
>>149792015
>>149791989
The way the story is going in the manga, it seems very likely there'll be just one trip or even no trips from the future back to the present at all.
They're setting up Beerus to investigate Goku Black's identity while Goku goes to visit Zen-o and afterwards travel to the future. So, they could go forward with Beerus killing Zamasu without Goku even returning from the future.
>>149792047
>he unironically likes a shitty meme character and Super Saiyan God
>>149792169
>their care for eachother proved their downfall
>>149792218
>meme
Nice buzzword kid
>>149792193
Dont forget the magical dagger hahaha
Literally the same shit
Vegeta and Bra arc when
>>149791560
She probably touches herself while sniffing his clothes.
>>149792023
You legitimately do have fucking awful taste, though.
>>149792311
All the adults are somewhere else and the kids have to defend Earth arc when?
>>149792262
>has retard strength that was retconned into being even more ridiculous in Super
>is a terrible attempt at being silly but can be super serious and dangerous when he wants to be
Meme
>>149788870
>Kaioken
I highly doubt that would work on God Ki the same way as Regular Ki.
It might work better in SSG form since that is mostly the calmer God Ki.
>>149792311
>Bulma calls Vegeta from Beerus' world
>Says there's an emergency
>Vegeta has Kakarot IT him over
>Bulma is crying
>W-what's the matter?!
>Bulma wants some fucking exotic food
>Vegeta ends up flying around to go get it
>Whole arc of shit like this
>Goku asks Bulma why she's getting so fat
>Bulma says she's pregnant
>Even Vegeta is surprised and thought she was just being a cunt
>>149792299
Now we know where the idea from the scythe bullshit came from...
>>149792243
It's so sad bros, why does such tragedy befall to such pure love?
>>149792383
Goku shows up at the end and defeats the villain anyway
>>149792023
Cry more faggot, go read Dragon ball multiverse or some shit.
>>149792321
So why didn't Zamasu take the body of Monaka?
>>149792408
>when you finally have a dick thanks to combining with yourself possessing a mortal body
>some asshole kills you by cutting you in half directly from the dick up
I don't even like Zamasu but goddamn did I feel bad for him
>>149792388
Again, nice buzzword kid.
Drew Chi-chi as amaid
>>149792452
The previous page shows him being bothered by Goku using God Ki in battle.
>>149792452
Same reason he didn't go for Hit.
>>149792444
No, he shows up and watches but nobody realises he's there.
Then he gets credit in the end anyway because his semen made Gohan who in turn made Goten.
>>149792383
Never. Trunks and Goten are basically invalids now. Pan is like a year old, and Bra hasn't even been born. I wish Super took place after Z.
>>149792522
Pan saves the Earth arc without anyone knowing arc when ?
>>149792486
I dig it.
>>149789423
The power levels not so much, but the general story doesn't go any were that is for sure.
>>149792404
Bruh dont forget the random nakama powerup. no wonder everyone is jobbing in super thats a classic saint seyia formula. Dragonball only uses one jobber and thats vegeta not both goku and vegeta.
>>149792537
>Pan becomes to Super what Bra is to DBM
>>149792452
The potential of a Saiyan body is limitless.
>>149792503
Implying F-Trunks wont travel back in time to Cut The Main Bad Guy in Half
>>149792522
Who knows, there may be a time-skip and it may go beyond.
They need to retcon EoZ now.
>>149792571
>Dragonball only uses one jobber and thats vegeta not both goku and vegeta.
nice meme
>>149791995
> comparing a long-running, indefinite, weekly shounen with a short-running one
Retard
>>149792608
>Timeskip happens
>Goku is old now
>They literally force him out of relevance
How would you feel about this?
>>149792608
>Pan vs Uub at tournament before Goku gets a chance at him.
>>149792169
So how much bigger did Zamasu's dick get after getting a saiyan one?
>>149792608
>Goku trains some random kid with the potential to reach Kid Buu's level of strength when God ki puts him so far beyond that
I might still be mad about how quickly they went full retard with powering Goku up
>>149792668
I think a mini-arc at the end showing the kids grown up and defending the Earth would be nice. Nothing serious, just a way to show that they carry on the Z fighters' legacy.
>>149792649
>short-running one
>Soul Eater
>51 episodes
Yeah you are a retard.
>>149792668
It has been stated that Saiyans keep their youth up to the 80s, so a timeskip past that point would write out most of the cast right alongside Goku. It's never happened unless they want to a launch a spin off.
>>149792729
>A five and a ten year olds beating the absolute crap of each other.
I want to watch this.
>>149792770
Crap, meant for >>149792696
>>149792472
>We will never see this smile again
Why do I even bother watching super anymore?
>>149792770
Pan shows promise but gets whomped by Uub, who just keeps improving as he goes along. Goku notices that he may just be the one, everything proceeds more or less as before after that. Goku's titanic burst of Ki during the Uub fight is just him tapping into God Ki without transforming.
Humans aren't a warrior race anyway.
Goku should've asked Shenron to resurrect Buu as a pure hearted Saiyan on Earth.
>>149787761
he knew
>>149792486
yoto plsDraw Zamasu being cute
>>149791394
>in the DBS manga he's normal
He is still pretty dumb though.
>>149787761
I loved it. 10/10.
Wtf because of 4chan I thought derp ssj2 gohan was an animation error... you full off shit guys.
>>149787761
The last exchange between him and Trunks was pure gold, poor guy truly lost it as hard as vegitofags.
>>149787761
It's like he was speaking for all the people who were tired of Trunks asspulls
>>149792629
You only Job Against things that are weaker than you the only case here is Golden freeza,Vegeta is not a jobber he is just weak, Now Gohan,gotenks,Vegito and The Merged Zamasu all jobbed Hard through out the series
>>149793039
Golden frieza is stronger then ssblue when full stamina though
>>149792921
>Beerus still hasn't fought seriously
>he probably won't by the time Super is over
>Whis definitely won't
Why are these two even still around?
>>149793039
>You only Job Against things that are weaker than you
>he doesn't know what Job means
Retard
>>149792921
He still only got 50% on the exam. That is pretty fucking stupid. Any regular metric would have failed him with that.
>>149793094
To shit up on powerlevel fanwank.
>>149792372
>Events after beating Black
After Goku and co time travelled back Trunks and Mai found themselves going home to Mai's apartment. There they found her, as it welcomed them back. Then suddenly Mai felt something holding her from behind. It was Trunks, and from her lower body she feel his crouch.
''T-Trunks?!''
Then tears dropped from the hero, in which she could fell it falling down her neck.
''I thought you were death back there. I really thought that I lost you. From the moment I woke up in the Black I trained all I could, but never for one moment did I forget your kind smile''.
Suddenly Trunks found himself having his tears brushed away by the sweet maiden, and softly cried as he got a warm embrace from his past savior.
Moments later however Trunks then found himself felling something different then usual. The same felling he had from that dream of his.
>>149793113
>he passed an exam
>how stupid
>>149793039
>Vegetto
>Jobbing
He's never been outright defeated. His fusion has always come undone through bullshit means because fusions are bullshit.
>>149793186
He hasnt outright defeated anyone either
>>149793094
Because they're 2 of the top 5 characters in Dragon Ball
I fucking love them, especially Whis
>>149793171
Ya naw
>>149793171
50% on an exam there only to filter out people too retarded to grasp the most basic rules
With hard-hitting questions such as what is 13-6
>>149793236
>2 of the top 5 characters in Dragon Ball
Grand priest is in the top5.
Whis and beerus aint even near that level.
>>149793125
>and from her lower body she feel his crouch.
>>149793125
G-Go on...
>>149793267
Stop, you don't even know what the questions were, besides Goku was raised away from civilization and still passed.
>>149793236
I think it would be safe to say that all 12 angels are far more powerful than Beerus.
The Grand Priest and Zeno's bodyguards are probably in the top 5, though.
Friendly reminder that if you don't like Super you can stop watching it.
Nobody is forcing you to follow it.
>>149793351
>>149793277
I meant in terms of likeability, not power
>>149792401
>Fast forward 9 years
>he is now doing the same thing but for Bra instead of Bulma
>she is not pregnant, just spoiled
>>149793352
Hating aspects of something doesn't necessarily mean disliking it. Just how loving your girlfriend doesn't mean you'll like every little thing she does, etc.
>>149793373
I love it.
>Pan keeps training and takes fighting seriously
>Is generally laid back but doesn't like people that squander their potential
>Also doesn't like spoiled people
>Gets all aggro with Bra because Bra is all of these things
>Bra gets embarrassed and tries tirelessly to git gud to show Pan a lesson
>Their rivalry goes well into adulthood
>>149793398
>I can't stand my girlfriend, there are aspects of her I can't stand and that I can't change, but I am with her so I will stick to.
>>149793347
We did see the first super easy question
And the whole reason Vegeta suggested the test was because he didn't want any mindless brutes too stupid to grasp basic rules such as "don't kill" and "you lose if you're out of the ring" to participate, so it wouldn't make sense for the test to actually be above 1st grader level.
Is it still incest if Future Trunks fucks Bra?
>>149793373
Thar'd be hilarious.
>>149793347
I'm guessing you're retarded anon, because the 13-6 question was clearly meant to give us a grasp on how hard the questions were.
>>149793475
What do you think, retard?
>>149793475
Yes, nigga
Why does Morio Hatano love asspulls so much?
https://youtu.be/r0ZSsPOw7Gk?t=398
>>149793475
Same genes, so yeah.
>>149793475
Yes
Is Mai a pedo?
>>149793561
No, she just never reached sexual maturity until now. Maybe a hormone imbalance that the DBs corrected?
>>149793370
>liability
>beerus and whis in the top5
GET OUT
>>149793595
Meeting a male she finds attractive fixed that.
>>149793474
>We did see the first super easy question
No we didn't.
>"don't kill" and "you lose if you're out of the ring" to participate, so it wouldn't make sense for the test to actually be above 1st grader level.
By that logic the test should have been just those two rules presented as question but that clearly wasn't the case.
>>149793398
>I hate Super but I love to be angry
>>149793622
Yeah, everyone knows the most likes me characters are Broly, Raditz, Vegeta, Cell, and Bardock
>>149793485
Only retard is you senpai we didn't see the questions.
>>149793681
Read what was submitted.
>Hating aspects of something doesn't necessarily mean disliking it.
Hating ASPECTS of something doesn't mean DISLIKING THE WHOLE.
As in, someone might hate Goku's behavior, but really like Vegeta's, and seeing Piccolo and the others get on with their lives, etc. That means there's still something for that viewer to enjoy, and bitching about what they don't doesn't necessarily change that.
>>149793709
>>149793660
But we did
I misremembered, it's not 13-6 as it is in the anime. It's even easier. Whis straight up said the test is to prove the participants have basic, rudimentary intelligence the preceding page.
>>149793352
Go back to whichever anime forum you came from.
>>149793830
How the fuck is he this stupid didn'master roshi give him some basic primary school education or was that just toei filler.
>>149793903
>>149793903
He's Goku, he's always been really, really dumb when it comes to anything that isn't fighting things.
And super made him even dumber.
Plus, Roshis education was just reading smut aloud.
Why doesn't DB have more monster girls?
>>149793903
It was in the manga. He also taught him reading with porn.
>>149793943
Goku knows exactly what he is doing with chichi
>>149793830
and then Vados interrupts him while he's reading so we don't hear the full question. Besides if that's the first question then Goku answered it correctly.
>>149793949
>He's Goku, he's always been really, really dumb when it comes to anything that isn't fighting things.
Wrong dumbass
>>149792897
Thinkin' bout Ningens.
>>149793965
Because monsters are bad and girls are good. Except Oceanus.
>>149794005
Are you really implying that the rest of the question wasn't "How many kerokos is little Poroporo left with"? And you're just gonna act like a retard and say that the rest of the questions aren't as basic as that one?
This is some next level shilling. I didn't know one could portray himself as being so retarded.
>>149794005
>Goku gets a 50
>The robot also gets a 50
What does Toyotaro mean by this?
>>149794093
We don't know the rest of the question retard, besides
>if that's the first question then Goku answered it correctly.
Goku knows his shit
>>149794157
>And you're just gonna act like a retard and say that the rest of the questions aren't as basic as that one?
>This is some next level shilling. I didn't know one could portray himself as being so retarded.
>>149794005
How difficult do you think a question like that can be, anon? Do you think it went into deep equations to solve how much little Poro-Poro has left after he split his kerokkos into atoms and handed them out to the population of earth? The way it's worded clearly shows that it's a first grade level question. If they wanted to establish the test was difficult, they'd go with the standard x=y type problem. If he solves it or not isn't really relevant as the panel very clearly shows that Goku has to read a first grade level maths problem aloud and count his fingers in order to solve it, and possibly fail as we don't know which number this question is in the manga.
Whis straight up says that this test is to establish that the contestants have a basic, rudimentary level of intelligence. You've got to be baiting at this point.
>>149794189
He's a genius when it comes to combat and training. His father was a brilliant scientist, after all.
>>149791329
he turned shit into void
>>149794251
>Shall I tell you where you miscalculated?
>>149785722
Post yfw not even Zeno can completely erase Zamasu and istead banishes him to a void universe, hinting at a possible comeback
>>149794276
>>149793830
I don't know why I replied
>>149794268
>Pulls out a chalkboard with a shitton of equations
>>149794308
>I got disproven so I'm just going to act like a retarded monkey and try to pass it off as trolling
Go watch some Dragon Ball, anon
>>149792746
> 51 episodes vs an indefinite amount
Holy shit you're stupid
>>149793943
does roshi like incest?
>before super
>everyone likes all characters
>after super
>everyone hates every character
gokufags, vegettofags, gohanfags, gogetafags, vegettofags, trunksfags, all fucking mad
>>149794340
>indefinite amount
>ep 66
Fucking retard
>>149792746
Do you not know how long-running shounen work?
>>149794362
I neved liked either Trunks or Goten
>>149794226
>whis tells it like it is
>>>whis
>>149794402
>Whis (female)
>>149794339
>being this butthurt
Sorry retard, take your speculation elsewhere
I feel like I'm the only one who likes the way this fight ended, not even a Trunksfag but it was pretty hype and unexpected desu
>>149794402
Oh fuck you're right
That's Vados
DB's bad animation (Super, since it's the current series) isn't due to the length of the franchise. Go look at how many anime Toei juggle at the same time. There's a limited number of workers, tight scheduling, etc. The groups are stretched too thin. To make matters worse, none of these series ever go on hiatus, which would only help the quality, so bad management also plays a significant part.
>>149794433
yep your are the only one, you dont belong in here
>>149788074
don't tell force me to tell you about shitty anime designs so fuck off in 3 jump way
>>149794433
I feel you
Trunks using Spirit Bomb blade was great
Goku not saving the day was great too
>>149794269
>yfw Zamasu gets redeemed and eventually joins the gang
>>149794559
Fuck off Kakarotto.
>>149794364
Do you not know what "indefinite amount" fucking means?
We are in ep 66 NOW. The fact that the show will go on for an unspecified long time is what I mean by "indefinite"
Example: Naruto, One Piece
Goddamn you're retarded
>>149794005
I hate the way the dub handled Buu. He's a dimwit, but he can speak coherently. I hope they get it right with Kai's version of Buu (Assuming they get to dub it).
>>149793341
>>149793336
''Mai there is something I want you to know''.
As Her smiling face turned into something that which resembled curiousness Trunks toke his hand and gave her a ki flashback(remember Goku back in the Freeza arc).
''That was the only way I could save you. I understand if you feel ashamed of me touching you''.
He genuinely thought she might not have liked his 'kiss', however then he felt something close to him. Her face was no more then a few inches away from him, and he saw this fire in her eyes.
''You saved me countless times Trunks. In all the times I have been in trouble, you always came for me. I am not mad at you because you are my hero''.
Then he felt her lips on his, and something inside of him was building. He could fell the Oozaru inside of him roaring as he gave in to the temptation and so they kissed while holding hands.
Did Goku keep his Yardrat outfit?
Did Gohan keep his Kaioshin outfit?
>>149794552
Fuck you. You motherfuckers like acting like Goku wins all the time but can't say SHIT about him losing to Yamcha, Roshi, Tao Pai Pai, Tenshinhan, Tambourine, Piccolo Daimao, Mister Popo, Kami, Raditz, Vegeta, Ginyu, Freeza, No. 19, Cell, the Cell Juniors, Beerus, Frost, Hit, Black, and Zamasu. FUCK YOU for trying to that to justify SUPER TRUNKS' NUMEROUS ASSPULLS. Trunks was fucking GREAT without them.
>>149794748
Yardrat outfit? Probably.
Kaioshin outfit? Nah. He had Kibito change it before the fight with Buu.
>>149794371
>>149794637
>51 e-epsiodes is s-short running I-I sweaR!!!!
>reaching this hard
Even Naruto and Pokemon are better than that shit
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/15233/animated-debris-effects-fighting-hiroyuki_yamashit
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/14961/aito_ohashi-animated-creatures-effects-fighting-po
Fucking retards
>>149794794
Too bad we'll probably never see Goku in the Yardrat outfit again
>>149794593
Don't be such a downer. That Zamasu guy is super tough! He'd make a great sparring partner and is probably a real nice guy deep down
>>149794552
Too bad the asspull was not great
hi
>>149794941
You are now aware that Chi Chi is the only asian looking woman in the series
>>149788563
Wouldn't that mean that King Vegeta's soul is purified, and he can go to the Other World proper?
It'd be pretty cool if Goku and Vegeta visit Other World one day and Vegeta runs in King Vegeta who's repented for his sins after watching his son do some good for all those years.
>and then beerus shows up and king vegeta craps a brick of vegetables
>>149794905
He killed your wife and your son.
>>149794842
Agreed. It's baller. Perfect color scheme.
>>149794941
Hi....
>>149785722
Only way DBS surpasses this arc is if it pulls some Chimera Ants-tier shit
>>149795010
I was disappointed he didn't put it on for his meeting with Zeno after Beerus said he should put on better clothes
Why is toyotaro so shit?
People expect him to do better then the anime?
His fights for the u6 arc were dull as fuck. Always the same shit some punch struggle and then tons of vanishing. thats fucking it.
Anime made every battle look good.
>>149795044
It sucks that we'll never have an arc where Goku goes back to Yardrat.
>>149795032
>Anime made every battle look good.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>149795047
>Anime made every battle look good.
Let's not kid ourselves anon.
>>149794988
She's the only Asian woman in the series isn't she? Other than filler characters obviously, and Marron is probably half asian because of Kuririn.
>>149795013
That ain't Goku-sa...
>>149794716
>He could fell the Oozaru inside of him roaring as he gave in to the temptation
It's time.
>>149795086
meant to quote>>149795047
>>149795000
Yeah but that's why we have the dragon balls. Besides, Vegeta nearly killed me, my best friend and my son but we're great pals now
Did Chi-Chi/Milk "raped" goku?
I mean goku doesn't even know what a kiss is, yet he have two kids, it's like she even didn't bother to explain shit and just fucked him.Or it just goku is being flanderized so fucking hard on super?.
>>149795108
Isn't Mai Asian?
>>149794941Anyone want some chi-chi drawings?
>>149794362
Actually all this whining about Super is EXACTLY the same as the whining that happened on the playground when I was a kid.
I still remember that a bunch of guys beat up another kid and drove a bike over his legs because he said "I told you so!" when it was Goku that beat Frieza and not Vegeta.
>>149795032
The Future Trunks arc was trash
>>149795086
Piccolo vs frost
Vegeta vs maguetta
Goku vs hit
Vegeta vs hit
Vegeta vs frost
All miles better then the shitty rushed manga
>>149795141
Ok, it's weird that I would forget her. Yeah, she's asian.
>>149795151
It was ok. I'm just saying that because it would have to go beyond what you expect from a shounen show to grab attention.
>>149795047
Complains about toyotaro being shit.
Gives us a pic that shows us why is the greatest. Toeifags literally out of ideas
>>149795047
>Why is toyotaro so shit?
Better than Toei
>People expect him to do better then the anime?
Becasue he actually knows how to do good fight choreography unlike Toei.
>His fights for the u6 arc were dull as fuck.
Shit taste
>>149795129
>Or it just goku is being flanderized so fucking hard on super?.
You know that's the case. Also, Goku just meant he'd never given a Senzu Bean that way.
I fucking hate the timing for Super's gags.
>>149795108
>That ain't Goku-sa...
How are you so sure?
>>149795149
I'd like a drawing of post-Cell arc Chichi wearing Goku's Cell arc jacket and looking at a picture of him.
>>149795047
Toyotaro managed to make botamo look fucking awesome and cute fuck off.
You braindead low quality toei shill
>>149795166
You wish Toei shill
>>149795047
>such a shit taste
Might as well hakai yourself faggot
>>149795129
It's probable that Vegeta and Goku had a misunderstanding.
Vegeta thought Goku was referring to kissing.
Gokue thought Vegeta was referring to chewing up a senzu bean and spitting it in someone elses mouth.
I think Chi-Chi and Goku might have kissed some time. Just not very often. Chi-Chi appears to be a very strict and very conservative woman.
Bulma has a far bigger romantic mindset.
There's always to consider that Vegeta has also integrated far better in Earth society, and more aware of human customs.
>>149794905
The worst part is, I can totally see him pulling off such a stunt. I mean, because of Uub and all.Shame it can't be Black Goku being the one sparring with him.>Can't let such a good body go to waste!
>>149795273
Kid Goku>>>Toei Goku
>>149795231
I want Black to babysit the past Goten and telling him sweet stories of how he won in the end.
>>149795338
>Kid Goku
Oh I remember Kid Goku.
>pok pok
>?
>let's take a look
>AAAAAAH!
>she has no... she has no... bulma has no...
>AAAAAAAAAAH!
>>149792486
And it's not even christmas18 next?
>>149788870
I bet they'll say Vegeto is still weaker than Beerus.
>>149795371
>t.autisticunderagedtoeifag
get a life
>repeat frames and shaky cam instead of actual fight choreography
>>149795371
I like the anime better too, but don't delude yourself that it is perfect.
Goku vs pooh bear was just horrendous.
>>149788870
>>SSG made Beerus use 70% of his power
BoG is rendered non-canon thanks to the BoG saga in Super.
>>149795425
But DBZ is full of repeat frames too. Repeat frames, mirror frames...
Hey guys, can we discuss about the upcoming multiverse tournament arc?
What are your hopes for this tournament? How do you think it is going to play? One fighter for each universe would be boring as fuck, in my opinion.
I think it should be 4 fighters for each universe.
More than it would be too much to handle in an anime arc and less than it would be lame.
>>149795371
After the latest episode toeicucks should shut the fuck up.
>>149790321
> Whis mentionned that Goku and Vegeta SSB can beat together Beerus
> implying Vegeto wouldn't wreck him
>shitty ass beam struggle spam to avoid animating fights
>>149789604
>>149789830
Filler / canon is endless battle. You will never hear from Youtuber to explain all that because they need to promote every episode even if it's totally shit like Super 4exmp. As 4 me, Super story just made another GT or like filler arc. If it's not in the manga isn't canon, but the question is what canon do we're talking about, DB+Z or just DBS. From the start of DBS, Tori said that anime and manga will be different, because anime is weekly manga isn't. Ok, you all know that, the main problem here is that they are repating the story with totally new transformations red, blue, rose, nothing of white still? Still Super made totaly different explanation of timelines from Android/Cell saga. They show it's like a portal to another dimesion instead of time travel. I don't know but this clearly isn't the main story, of Dragon ball.
>>149795503
>>149795467
Where is the hashtag at the end of each number? thx for proving me right you autistic samefag.
>>149795490
and DBZ sucks too, shit anime adaptation of a great manga.
>>149795537
Could you try to talk English please?
>>149795551
I am still fucking disgusted of how he even dared to use the same gloves and shoes as Vegeta.
It is like he also want to some actual father love
>>149795574
Don't be a jerk. He's ESL but he gets his point across. He's trying his best.
>>149785882
> Dragon Ball Super
> DBS
> DB5
> Dragon Quest V had you being the kid character growing up and getting a waifu and getting the Hero as a son.
Trunk's and Mai's child will be spamming Gigadeen, isn't him?
>>149795605
Why wouldn't he use them? It wasn't his first wearing similar attire to Vegeta. Both times, it was made by Bulma.
>>149795537
>You will never hear from Youtuber to explain
Why the fuck should I care what a youtube has to say?
Fucking cucks I swear.
>>149795574
Ok, Super sucks in both version and it's not canon.
>>149795551
Probably not, but it could happen.
Beerus is competitive, he likes to win. He would want to ensure his team is the strongest team possible, which means he might want to have an extra SSB capable saiyan in his group. Maybe he could force Gohan to train again in order to guarantee his victory. It is probably not happening, though.
>>149795618
Speaking of Dragon quest who will replace tori with the character and monsters designs if he kicks the bucket, Toyotaro?
You know what would be really hype in the multiverse tournament?
Final battle between Goku and Vegeta. A legit one this time.
No interruptions or interventions.
Dragon Ball Super should end with a final battle between Goku and Vegeta.
>>149795503
I would like it if it followed the model of the Other World Tournament arc:
You allow as many combatants as you like from each universe in a collection of sixteen massive brackets, whittling them down from hundreds to 16 (ideally at least one from each universe, two-three at the most) for the final fights' main event.
This would let as many characters as we'd like get in some good fights for show/fairness until they're eventually whittled down to the God+ tier fighters, but at least we get to see one last hurrah from Krillin/Piccolo/Buu/Gotenks/Gohan etc.
Will likely end with Goku/Vegeta as the only members from Universe 7 to make the final 16, Hit/Cabba (having unlocked Blue) from Universe 6, and so forth.
>>149795537
BUILD A WALL
>>149795737
I like this.
But I also really want a final fight between Goku and Vegeta. It must be between them. It would be the perfect closure to the entire Dragon Ball series.
>>149795047
While I agree that Piccolo vs Frost, Vegeta vs Magetta, and Goku vs Hit were better in the anime
Goku vs Botamo and vs Goku vs Frost were better in the manga
Cabba is either or
>>149795737
>Whis said the Universes that total up to 13 are very closely related
>Universe 3 (the opposite to Universe 10) might have its own version of Zamasu
>yfw he shows up again in the Universal Tournament
You ningen thought you'd get away with it, did ya?
>>149795737
>every character gets a bit of the spot light
Hell, with a model like this, we can see even Goten and Yamcha get some action. Doesn't even matter if it's short clips.
I LIKE IT!
>inb4 goku, vegeta, hit and cabba all get knocked out by some kind of monster universe that's filled with pseudo-movie villains like some kind of metal-cooler/frieza and a prince broly
>>149795831
>yfw Universe 3 Zamasu uses the Super Dragon Balls to take Hit's body for himself, becoming Hit Black
It is like pottery.
>>149795831
>universe 3's zamasu is a goody-good-shoes combat freak like goku
I LOVE NINGEN!
>>149794546
What the fuck are you rambling about, Toyoshill?
Fuck off.
>>149795763
why? bcz anime is not canon, right?
>>149794811
Naruto was just as inconsistent with the anime, if not more
Can't say for Pokemon (havn't watched any recent ones)
>>149795880
>Hit Black
>Instead of the Saiyan's ability to constantly grow stronger, he learns how to abuse the fuck out of Hit's Time-Skip to stop time for minutes at a time to let him dispense Justice
Lord Beerus how horrifying
149795659
149795659
New thread
>>149795642
he also wore one in namek
>>149795831
>See Zamasu
>He's just subservient as fuck
>Has moments where he broods but it's only about mundane shit like his tea having no taste whatsoever
>>149795932
I imagine Pokemon has less animation errors because Pokemon is REALLY lazily animated.
They have some minimally animated episode scenes and paste in some shots from their collection of Pokemons doing their attack against that typical fast moving psychedelic back ground.
>>149788105
just a 3 D effect.
>>149795530
>What are retcons
>>149795888
that what I said, sorry for bad eng.
>>149796031
> ends of DBS
> they got a few other dozen of power ups
> Goku and Vegeta still can't beat Beerus
>>149795932
>inbetween frames
Retard
>Naruto was just as inconsistent with the anime
You wish
>>149795692
DQ designs are most likely Studio Bird's work, more than Toriyama's
>>149796077
>inbetween frames
Which is what everyone uses against DBS.
Unless its actual scenes from the movie re-tellings (especially Re:RoF)
>yfw Shinichiro's "Son Gokuuuuuu!"
So fucking based
>>149795233
>>149796639
That works. I love it, anon. Thanks.
>>149790335
>quoting Toriyama before he saw how trash the anime was
can you be any more pathetic?