Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1738

ガイド嫁

/djt/はホモの聖地
はっきりわかんだね

whats the difference between は and が op

Are you ready for nouryoku guys?

I've been going through the 6k / 10k optimized deck, but it has been throwing kanji and vocabs with shit I've never seen before.

Dumb example, but bear with me, it's the only one I remember at the moment.
行く
Before I even go through 行. I understand that it may be because 行く is more widely used, but it just feels off to get right into it without exploring the kanji on its own first.

Am I being retarded and it's just a mindset? Am I supposed to roll with it and grind that shit like that?

I started studying on an app that spilts kanji into JLPT. I've got N5 pretty down pat I think. Should I focus on N4 now or keep studying N5 at the same time? Any point where I should try to read something like a raw manga chapter or something?

>>149741781
youre retarded if you think you can lock yourself in a room with a bunch of flash cards and come out knowing anything resembling japanese

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そんんあ広い顔を見れば穀袋が痛い。。。

>>149741781
4/10

>>149741880
>Any point where I should try to read something like a raw manga chapter or something?
Right about now.

>>149741716
I've barely looked at japanese in the last 3 months but I can probably still get a 160 or so

>>149741595
幅はちょっと乏しいじゃない？

wait sticking that on an i-adjective looks weird..

>>149741634
のんけのんけびより

>>149741880
>Any point where I should try to read something like a raw manga chapter or something?
Yeah. That point was a few months ago.

>>149742235
美味しくない？ non rhetorical: isn't this delicious?
美味しいじゃない rhetorical: This shit is delicious and you better accept it you bitch

精液飲んだすっきりしたんだ

>>149742103
I feel you. It still improved somehow. It's a mystery even to me.

>>149742370
ah thats it, cheers

>>149742406

意識しすぎるお前

仏教を学んでこい

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おにいちゃんおなかすいた

おなかがすいたけど

ニュージーランドのあのんくんがしんぱいで

ごはんがのどをとおらない

>>149743459
いもうとは優しい子だな
きっとダイジョウブよ

アイス食べたい

マンコ舐めたい

>>149741658
草

>Finally finished my 800+ reviews after putting off anki for over a month

できるぞい

>>149743459
ちんこが通りますよ

>>149744170
なにができる

ペロリとおまんこに舌が接触

本物のお饅頭見たことあるわけないだろ

おはようございます、DJTども！
こちらは六時であり、天気は大雨です。
あなたの住む場所は何時ですか。天気はどうですか。

曇りと肉玉の機会がある

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>>149744537
おなかすいた

東洋水産の牛すきたべたい

冬来たりなば

春遠からじ

>>149744537
七時半、曇りだ

>>149744714
こんな時にbrになりたいなんてね

>>149744537
今零時三十七分。天気は、見えん

Does skipping writing practice create inconveniences?

>>149744766
nah dude you can just stare at flash cards and fully absorb everything dont even worry

Man, tae kim didn't really prepare me for reading at all... I mean I can manage, but I'm having to look up tons of stuff. Should I just keep chugging along or should I find a real grammar book to help?

>>149744792
Are you sure? Won't I tend to forget?

>>149744840
He is trolling. That guy spends his day in djt looking for people to troll.

>>149744873
Yeah, I guessed so. But please, answer me.

>>149744810
>real grammar book
Have fun finding something better.

>>149744810
Nothing will prepare you for reading.
Just read.

>>149744873
the 皮肉 of it all

Speaking of grammar books, this is a long shot but does anyone know of something authoritative on Japanese grammar and usage? Not in English of course.
That would be interesting to have look at.

>>149744537
Literally fucking nothing to do with anime or manga.
Fuck off with this blog enabling shit.
Go to /int/ is you want a chatroom for mundane everyday in any language you feel like using.

>>149744975
Is there even an English equivalent of that?

>>149744882
Yes of course it creates inconveniences. It's a whole part of the language you are skipping, not to mention it helps with memorization quite a lot.

I have a feeling you asked the question while already knowing the answer.

>>149744810
Try the DoJG Anki deck, and/or/alongside
http://www.gwu.edu/~eall/vjg/vjghomepage/vjghome.htm
and
http://bunpou.neocities.org/
for reference.

>>149744975
here you go bro https://www.amazon.co.jp/満点ゲットシリーズ-ちびまる子ちゃんの文法教室-貝田-桃子/dp/4083140569/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1479113676&sr=1-1

>>149744996
Sure, something like Garner's Modern English Usage.
There are definitely plenty of others too.

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>>149745025
don't stick memes at me loon

>>149744968
>Nothing will prepare you for reading.
>Just read.
Yeah you are totally right. Let's just abolish the guide altogether and just quote that in the OP instead.

>>149744999
古池や

蛙飛びこむ

水の音

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>>149744996
This monster, certainly.

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>>149745116

>>149745094
if you think im not 100% serialじゃあ何ができる日本語の力を見せてもらえませんか140文字以下で書きなさい

良い答えを出来れば昇格otherwise you need to read that book before challenging againがっかりさせないでよ

>>149745203
俳句は縦書きだよアホ

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About radicals

If you check the kanji components, does it always divide it in the least possible parts rather than its smallest parts?
Does it show kanji that have 泉 never with 白+水 for example?

Is there an online version of DoJG that can be viewed via mobile?

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いい本かも

>>149745483
desyou bakusyou

How would you emphasize it writing that a character pronounces を as "wo"?

「僕らがこれから行くのも、その場所なのかい？」

I know what it's saying but I can't identify what that も is doing. I've already double checked も on tk and google and I can't find what I'm missing.

Pretty straight forward, no need for context I think.

>>149745663
ヲ

>>149744984
ひどいよ

>>149745673
are you sure its も you dont understand and not の

>>149744984
go to /whiny ass bitches/ if you wnat a chat room to be a whiny ass bitch in lol

>>149745697
Now that you pointed it out like that then I'm not so sure. の is nominalizing the verb isn't it?

>>149741712
My "learn japanese in a month book" says that ha stresses the predicate and ga stresses the subject. "Sora wa aoi desu" = "The sky is fucking blue." "Sora ga aoi desu" = "The fucking sky is blue".

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Hey, are ateji also random, or is there a FIXED set?

Man I wish there was an anki deck ripped off jisho, cause holy shit jisho is the best site for getting infos on kanji.

>>149745716
it says more than that though

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>>149745786
Thanks mr kim

>>149745786
maybe you would like to sneak a peek at my kanji info cards

>>149745845
If it's doing more than nominalizing the verb then I don't know. I was sure that was it.

What is it then?

>>149745438

泉 isn't a radical so you would have to search with 白+水. You can break the radicals down as far as you want (within reason, don't go trying to break stuff down to 一,｜,丶,ノ, even though it will work in some cases) and the search will still sometimes work. Like if a Kanji contains 魚 you can break it down to 田 + 灬 and Jisho will find any Kanji containing 魚.

You know how you sometimes stumble upon words that you think you know what they mean but then they turn out to be grammar points and somehow mean something completely else than what the word stem would led you to believe? I hate those!

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>>149745975
Can't say I do.

>>149745915
its not that its not it its just that there is more to it

but here something happens to 僕らがこれから行く

compare to something like これから行くのが楽しみに

another example include comparing

釣りに行くのも楽しみに and 釣りに行くのが楽しみに

so why one over the other well believe it or not you said no context needed but there actually is

well not so much that its needed to understand because the context is already created if you understand the の to its deepest depths

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>>149745203
たまにはあたしも参加させて

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>>149745975
i dont think i know what they mean, i either do or i dont
and its usually dont

>>149746104
いとをかし

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ふええええええ

どこいっても牛すき売ってない

なきそう

>>149746337
オマエはだれだ

>>149746098
There really wasn't anything special to that も then, I just didn't think to relate it to something they said a page or two ago.

Thanks for the help. Beginner mistake but I guess that's supposed to happen on my first time reading native material.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRmHoGeFBjA
ｷﾀ━━(━(━(-( ( (ﾟ∀ﾟ) ) )-)━)━) ━━ !!!!!

>>149746869
長すぎて見るものか

>>149746776
ちょうしどうホワイトボードくん

白人？

>>149746869
世界で一番つまんない１時間

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>>149746897

>tfw when you find a Japanese vocalist/band you like so much you get depressed
listening to all their songs and reading the lyrics is so fucking fun

>>149747013
あなたの数学はそんなに離散じゃないよね

>>149747051
im japanese and i felt that way when i discovered nickelback

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>>149747067
>>149747067

>>149747115
fuck off jamal

矜恃
矜持

why

>Start anki study
>5 minutes later constantly yawning and struggling to stay awake
Guess I'm going to need to go on a tea binge. (coffee is shit.)

>>149747173
fuck on dude youtu.be/_bqokzaAdnY#t=247

>>149747230
Who drinks tea to help stay alert

Tea is for going to bed

>>149747263
Tea has caffeine in it.

>>149747219
Because it's such an weird word that even nips get it wrong so often that the wrong version becomes commonplace enough for the dictionary people to say like "whatever we give up, we'll add the wrong version to the dictionary too"

>>149747281
Only a tiny amount, it's more relaxing than anything

>>149747289
which one is the wrong one?

>>149747311
Who knows

>>149747289
Could defiantly see that catching on here.

>>149747311
prolly the one with the common kanji as opposed to the uncommon one

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おにいちゃんえいごおしえて

これなんびょうくらいで

読める？

>言葉に秘めた確信が、はっきりと俺に伝わってくる。
>言葉に秘めた確信
I can't make sense of this, what does it mean?

>>149747430
belief hidden in words

>>149747430
it means you have your pants on backwards; the fly goes in the front

before you cry troll no its a metaphor for how im reading your misunderstanding of what youre reading

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>>149746776

I have trouble concentrating on my reps.
I really don't enjoy anki, but when I try to do finish it quick so I'm finally free and can read, I always fail.

It's like it's physically hurting me to do anki, like my head explodes when I try to force myself.

Am I just a weak faggot or is something else wrong with me?
I dunno but I finished school 5 years ago and I didn't really need to memorize anything after that anymore.

Maybe I should drop the alcohol.

>>149747532
dont drink beers exercise more eat lots of vegetables and fruits and ixnay on the ankay asap before the negative feedback loop becomes your entire day to day life

>>149747421
and strained to hold a painful hard twisting curve through his wings?
その痛み？

>>149747532
I get that too, it's just because it's so monotonous and mind numbing, try and reduce the amount of time you have to spend on it every day by reducing your new cards or fucking around with the modifiers

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>>149747507

>>149747532
Do it in 10-15 minute blocks with a break inbetween.

>>149747769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkfQP2KeMPo

>>149747769
>>149747810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHTO8wLo6d0

>>149747853
Is this the same meaningless phrase as here? Is that a reference to something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMrWFD3LWYU

>>149747919
It's not a meaningless phrase, it's the punchline of a rakugo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugemu

The idea is that it's a standard little story, but the character of Jugemu has an absurdly long name that is recited multiple times.

>>149747532
Maybe try reducing new cards?
I dunno, I'm a weak ass faggot and can only do 10 new card a day. But on the bright side, I can focus more on reading.

Anyone know a good guide/resource for learning Japanese that's normie friendly?

I could only think of Tae Kim, Anki, and Rikai-kun.

I'm making a Japanese learning guide page for expats at work, but /djt/ and /int/ stuff is full of expletives and 馬鹿 and such.

>>149748105
genki
nihongo no mori

>>149747572
えっと、アメリカえいごなのかな？

えいごの文法が変なの？

>>149748105
Just set them up with core (or even wanikani) and some kind of reading material. Normies do best when they're not overwhelmed with choice and can follow This One Simple Way to Learn Japanese

>>149748372
>Nihongo no mori
Looks interesting. I'm not sure about Genki, though. I can't really spend money on this, and I don't think I can tell people to pirate a book on the company website.
>some kind of reading material.
Any suggestions? The usual Yotsuba type stuff wouldn't exactly work for normies.

>>149748287
アメリカえいごとイギリスえいごの別のはほとんどないよ
例の文の文法もおかしくないみたい
ちょっと固くって感じです

でも俺の日本語は超おかしいだろう

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ＤＪＴ，Ｉ‘ｖｅ　ｓｅｅｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｆｆｏｒｔ　ｙｏｕ　ｐｕｔ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｓｔｕｄｉｅｓ　ａｎｄ　ａｍ　ｈｅｒｅ　ｔｏ　ｏｆｆｅｒ　ｙｏｕ　ａ　ｌｉｆｅｔｉｍｅ　ｃｈａｎｃｅ．

Ｙｏｕ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｅ　ｇｒａｎｔｅｄ　ａ　ｏｎｅ－ｙｅａｒ　ｖｉｓａ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｇｒｅａｔ　Ｎｉｐｐｏｎ，　ｎｏ　ｏｂｌｉｇａｔｉｏｎｓ　ａｔｔａｃｈｅｄ　（ｏｂｓｅｒｖｅｄ　ｔｈｅ　Ｎａｔｉｏｎａｌ　ｌａｗｓ）．

Ｂｕｔ　ｙｏｕ　ｍｕｓｔ　ｃｈｏｏｓｅ　１　（ｏｎｅ）　ａｎｏｎ　ｗｈｏ　ｈａｓ　ａｌｒｅａｄｙ　ｐｏｓｔｅｄ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｔｈｒｅａｄ　（ｂｅｆｏｒｅ　ｔｈｉｓ　ａｎｎｏｕｎｃｅｍｅｎｔ）　ｔｏ　ｂｅ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｒｏｏｍｍａｔｅ．

Ａｆｔｅｒ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｎｄ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｏｎｅ　ｙｅａｒ　ｐｅｒｉｏｄ，　ｔｗｏ　ｓｃｅｎａｒｉｏｓ　ｍａｙ　ｈａｐｐｅｎ：

－　Ｉｆ　ｅｉｔｈｅｒ　ｏｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｄｏｎ‘ｔ　ｂｅｃｏｍｅ　ｆｌｕｅｎｔ，　ｂｏｔｈ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｅ　ｄｅｐｏｒｔｅｄ．
－　Ｉｆ　ｂｏｔｈ　ｏｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｂｅｃｏｍｅ　ｆｌｕｅｎｔ，　ｔｈｅ　ｂｅｓｔ　ｏｎｅ　ｏｕｔ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｗｏ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｇｅｔ　ａ　ｖｉｓａ　ｅｘｔｅｎｓｉｏｎ，　ｔｈｅ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｏｎｅ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｅ　ｄｅｐｏｒｔｅｄ．

Ｄｅｐｏｒｔａｔｉｏｎ　ｉｓ　ｐｅｒｍａｎｅｎｔ　ａｎｄ　ｙｏｕ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｎｅｖｅｒ　ｂｅ　ａｂｌｅ　ｔｏ　ｖｉｓｉｔ　Ｎｉｐｐｏｎ　ａｇａｉｎ．

Ｓｏ，　ｗｈｏ　ｄｏ　ｙｏｕ　ｃｈｏｏｓｅ？

>>149748638

(you)

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>>149748638
BULBA FETT

I CHOOSE YOU!

N1 in less than a month.

I have barely studied.

hold me /a/

>>149748790
Can't wait to see the failure rate when everyone gets there results

One of you will have to make a strawpoll

>>149748790
>N1 in less than a month
That's extremely impressive, anon.

Any tips?

>>149748838
I mean the exam is in a month.

>>149748601
あのんのにほんごはよみやすいんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

Is there really a difference between は and について／にとって／に関して？

>>149749083
Emphasis

>>149749083
about Aだね

みっつのほかにも

aboutに類するのがあるけど

だいたいどれもおなじだよ

印象が子供っぽいか大人っぽいか女っぽいか男っぽいかの違いがあるだけだとおもうよ

Can someone recommend me some good material I can use for listening practice on my phone when I'm out doing shit? I tried Japanesepod but I've gotten kind of sick of their lessons

>>149748959
恐縮です

>>149749105
>>149749138
なるほど
ありがとう、アノんくん

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>彼は歌で自分の気持ちを表現した

>>149749519
歌より、股間のほうが気持ちを表現するのに便利だと思う

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>ふにゃちん

>>149749833
１５００えんあれば

なにかできるなあ

パン２個とソーセージ１本とポテサラとドリンクの値段って２００円くらいだから

一個売れて１３００円・・・ぼってるなあ

Why do they say "hit and away" when they mean to say "hit and run"?

So is there an addon to remove stats from anki yet?

In Pokemon they say 空を飛ぶ for that flying skill and now I've seen this dude use 海を泳ぐ. For whatever reason I found that construction a bit weird, but it actually makes sense

鳳凰の方法を相当す

牛すきたべたい

たーべーたーいー

>>149750144
を can be used with verbs that denote movement to indicate the place on which you are moving, e.g. イエスが水面を歩いた.

>>149750704
It's like saying "I walked the streets" in English

Grammarians oversimplify how transitivity works syntactically in languages

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>>149748790
Same here but I study by reading Good Books™ like Jintai and watching Good Anime™ like 3gatsu

>>149750124
Preferences -> Uncheck 'Show remaining card count during reviews'.

Then it's just a matter of not hitting the stat button.

>>149750144
Isn't Surf called 波乗り in the Japanese version?

>>149750846
>Then it's just a matter of not hitting the stat button.

I don't have enough self control to do that that's why I need an addon

Bear with me as I just started but I got thrown off a bit while reading TK's grammar guide.
There's this selection of kanji -⾼速道路- which is an adjective and a noun but there's no particle inbetween. Or is the entire selection just one noun and was just put there separately in the vocab list in the guide to be a little confusing?

>>149750757
SHE READS GOOD BOOKS
THIS BOOK READS WELL
HE READS TIM TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT
IT READS ”FOUR MEN AT DAWN”

>>149750888
Caps sorry

>>149750871
1 noun famalama

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>>149750808
>like Jintai
Oh this guy seems like he might have decent taste maybe he'll have some good recomme-
>3gatsu

>>149750871
It's using the adjective as a noun and making a compound word

>>149750899
Thanks. Would've helped if the guide had it as just 1 new vocab instead of 2 separate ones.

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Is there an easy way to machine translate stuff when it is written like this?

>>149750904
You should've realized at Anime

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>>149750808
>watching 3gatsu
>"Hey this shogi game looks pretty cool"
>it's actually real

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>>149750904
>I'm the cuckoo

ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗちょｗｗｗｗｗおまｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ爆笑ｗｗｗ

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>>149750954
Because it's not really about the shogi, it's more about the struggle of a young man transitioning to adulthood

>>149750949
Yeah... Fuck them limp wristed weebs... bet they've never seen a real pussy in their lives amirite brah?

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>>149751012
>3D pussy

>>149750946
Here, I'll machine translate it for you:

Right bubble: T... Thousand leaves please teach me... MoRe...

left bubble: More... feeling good things...

>>149751045
shit I meant thousand twigs but at least I got the rest right :')

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>>149750946
Just slap that shit in google translate.
The hand-write feature is surprisingly good.

>>149751045
>>149751068
>>149751097
Thanks, i didn't even want to ask for a translation because i feel like people would post that a lot in these threads.

>>149751132
No problem, actually people here are really welcoming of doing translations for free since it helps to increase our language ability, so do feel free to drop by whenever you want and ask for translations! (:

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>>149751165

can anyone share me their study plan for the day? I'm having trouble focusing on mine. At one particular day, I might study grammar a lot that I don't have energy to do anki and any other else. This kind of inconsistency makes it hard for me to form habits. Any recommendation, anonたち?

>>149751337
i do anki, read manga, and read about grammar or kanji if i feel like i'm having a hard time or feel like i'm not done

>>149749215
Not really a recommendation, but when I was learning french I'd put my iPod on shuffle, and it would alternate between music and French lessons; that way it wasn't so boring.

You can also download some Radio Bangumis from voice actors from animes you like. You can find them on Youtube. It's very fast-paced. Might as well slow it down on some audio program first.

So in core there are cards like:

きらりと -- ダイヤモンドがきらりと光った。
ごくんと -- 薬をごくんと飲み込んだんだ。

But Rikai/Jisho only show information for きらり and ごくん. Is the と on the cards an error?

>>149751337
I do 30 minutes of Kanji study, 30 minutes of mining deck, and then the rest of the day is just a mixture of LNs, VNs and anime

You should just think of all the Jap related shit you can do, anki, reading, grammar etc, and assign time slots to them that you stick to every day, like always doing anki as soon as you wake up every morning

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>>149750904
Jinrui is my all-time favorite anime and I was seriously considering watching Sangatsu. Fuck you.

>>149751545
>anime
Don't worry it will fit your shit taste. The Jintai anime is garbo compared to the books.

>>149751504
it's like attaching na to na adjectives

>>149751416
>>149751518
this is solid advice, thank you very much!

>>149751337
Anki and then read mango/visual novels until my motivation dies.

>>149741595
>乱暴
>らんぼう
>violence
>Rambo

>>149751337
- Do anki during breakfast.
- Waste all of my time consuming Japanese media.

>>149751504
A lot of words function as adverbs when you stick a と in front of them. Rikai marks those as "adv-to".

>>149748638
I choose imouto.

>吐精
Japanese is such a beautiful language.

>tfw Japan will become a Chinese province within the next 8 years and the Japanese will be forced to learn and use Mandarin
We'll probably be the last Japanese speaker.

>>149752479
Who are you quoting?

>>149752499
Trump.

>>149752499
I hate this meme

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Is she speaking in some dialect or something? I couldn't get what she said.

>>149752479
This. Should've learned something useful instead.

>>149753016

I remember this. I think those two use kansai dialect or something. Yotsuba's grandma uses it in some of the last chapters too. It's kind of a pain in the ass.

>>149752820
I hate all memes

>ギシアン

A+ for creativity

>>149752479
Does China have good fiction (in modern Mandarin) or has it all been ruined by the gommies?

>>149753196
携ｔ愛 is pretty good though.

>>149753196
edgy

>>149753476
That one's especially shit

tfw haven't read anything in days because i'm too busy playing pokemon moon

>>149753575
>not playing 日

>>149753476
クソワロタ

>>149753575
What in English?

>>149753606
i don't really care, but moon leaked first
>>149753615
yeah because my friends are also playing it in english. i guess i'll play it in jp some other time

>>149750871
Compound word senpai

よもや、雨という単語に安堵を覚える日が来ようとは。

I think I know what this means "who would have thought the day would come where I'd be relieved to hear the word rain" but I just don't see where よもや and 覚える come in

遭遇
逼迫

Literally indistinguishable

>>149754296
覚える here is just "to feel" relief, same as 安心する.

>>149753435
China has no good writing aside from the classical chinese works. The problem is that chinese is a very blunt language, there's no real way to express yourself without saying i this, i that. The classical chinese works are quite different in structure to modern chinese.
The cultural revolution destroyed and surpressed writing in china.
Like japan, novellists aren't respected as a livelihood, so not many people treat writing that seriously

>>149754467
Ah, alright. Then the only thing left that confuses me is the よもや, and I guess 来よう. I don't see how the volitional is used here

>>149754308
wut

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>>149753016
>>149753146
Close enough transliterations which capture the general meaning, tone aside.
>おじいちゃんがやりよんのが気になるんか
おじいちゃんがやり方のが気になるの
>かまんかまん
構わないわね
>ほんならちいと見といでや
それなら少し見ていてね
>おじいちゃんの邪魔せんでな
おじいちゃんの邪魔しないでね

Here are a bunch of reference sites you can use for these sorts of things:
http://sorayuko.s251.xrea.com/kansei.html
https://sites.google.com/site/kansaibentoha/home
http://chiri-japan.com/2016/06/24/%E3%82%88%E3%81%8F%E4%BD%BF%E3%81%86%E9%96%A2%E8%A5%BF%E5%BC%81%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7/
http://www.geocities.co.jp/NatureLand/9678/kotoba.html

I also recommend you read and watch ゆるゆり if you haven't because one of the characters who used 関西弁 is adorable in the manga and has the perfect seiyuu casting in the anime. Cute girls is a good way to get used to reading different dialects, and they don't come much cuter than pic related.

>>149754766
Das a cute Chitose

I really need to catch up on the yryr manga

>>149754849
It's really heart melting in the overall context of the chapter, seeing as how the response is so out of character, despite the whole Kansai speaker stereotype.

>>149754942
>Kansai speaker stereotype
What do you mean

>>149754572
よもや =まさか

>よもや 来ようとは
まさか 来るとは（思わなかった）

>>149755128
Ah, so it can be used like まさか got it. But what is the exact difference between those two まさか 来るとは & まさか 来ようとは in meaning?

>>149754476
I guess I'll just learn some yuropoor languages after Japanese.

>>149755214
Lean Russian, pretty much the only language worth anything after Japanese and English

>>149754308
Literally blind

Is there something like this http://www.english-for-students.com/Words-by-Theme.html for Japanese learners? Core6k is too random to me.

>>149755661
Then go mine like you're supposed to do.

>>149755214
Learn Russian. It's the only European language than matters.

>>149755718
English doesn't matter?

>>149755301
I don't play CSGO

>>149755209
同じ意味。
「よもや（まさか）〜する日が来ようとは」は昔からのよくある言い方の一つで、「来ようとは」はこの言い方でしか使わないと思うよ

>>149754983
Read the chapter and you'll see.
Chapter 99 from volume 14- first chapter in the volume.

>>149755718
How does Russian matter?

>>149755979
It doesn't really it's just the only other language in Europe aside from English and Arabic

What's a good iShit app for learning kanji? I've already completely one of them and the others I've tried suck ass.

>>149756105
Reading native material the app

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>>149756011
まじうけるー

>>149756124
I'm only wondering because I want to learn a lot of kanji before going headfirst into grammar and I'm almost never at the computer

気がついたらもう3時じゃん、もう寝る。おやすみ〜

>>149756387
起きるな

i need rare kanji

>>149756480
酩酊

>>149756480
ヾ

>>149756480
稀

>>149756558
It's not kanji.

>>149756387

眠れ、我が娘とともに。。。

>>149756480
生

>>149756583
ゞ

>>149756480
亖

>>149756630
...neither is it.

>>149756679
lol you don't even know English

>>149756702
lol you'll never even know Japanese

>>149756702
I know kana though.

>>149756480
珍

>>149756808
im sorry you're mad at someone on 4chan giving ironic responses to your terrible posts

>>149756480
珍しい

>>149755301
Nice fanfiction you got there, comrade.

how do you say dab in nihongo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2qbM6shVU
落下傘兵になりたい

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English is the lingua franca, Japanese is for all the weeb shit we like.

Then Russian is very useful for piracy purposes and other non-abiding stuff, if you're into that.

Arabic and Chinese are also good assets to your toolbelt - there is a whole Internet parallel universe once you understand these languages, unavailable to foreigners.

Spanish (and/or Portuguese) would be next level, especially Spanish for the piracy. Although it's mostly stuff reposted from China, USA and Russia, their community is important due sheer numbers.

Then comes languages with online presence, but not so much to offer - Korean*, Polish, Tagalo, Malay, Thai, Indonesian, Hindi.

There are also shrinking languages that still hold some minor relevance due past cultural achievements, like German, Italian, French.

I guess that's about it. Did I forget anybody?

*Korean is arguably "as useful as Japanese", but that only applies to teenager girls who like k-pop and doramas. Both South Korea and China are eager to steal Japan's throne in the entertainment industry, so keep an eye open for these languages.

>>149757806
You could have just stopped after the first line, instead of posting bullshit lies.

なぜ地震の後が台風でしょうか
俺達はなにか悪いことでもしたのかな
なんて面倒くさい

>>149757926
神様がお前を削除しようとしている

>>149757984
神様なんて存在しないよバカ

>>149758015
そうとは思うやつは結構いるけど、本当にいるかどうかを確かめることが誰にもできないので話にはならない

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>>149758015
違うよ
ほら、神様の存在の絶対証明

How the fuck do I use Anki

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>>149758366
どういうこと？説明してください

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How do you think the first kanji you learn and how you write them represent you? Do they tell a story about you? Is the calligraphy just as revealing in japanese as it is in english? These are all neat questions I haven't seen anyone asking thus far. I see kanji as a form of expressing oneself, therefore a form of art. Is that true by your standars? Pic related, the kanji I learnt so far during my a month and a half of studying japanese.
Can you profile me?

>>149758696
I cant tell anything from your kanji, but from your post I can guess you're a big faggot

>>149757790
これは 何 ですか

>>149758761
Being a faggot is sometimes the best thing to be done. You know, passivity may very well save your life one day. Stay safe fellow fag.

>>149757806
Portuguese is my mother tongue and it doesn't offer me much desu, dudes basically localize whatever that is "in" in America and the weeb community simply retranslate shit from english anyway.
English is cool because it has a bit of knowledge and culture of every country, and that is how I actually went deeper in the weeb world after playing some eroge
I visually like Chinese more than japanese because kana kind of sucks to be honest, but I've no use for the former

>>149758782
nippon no paratroopers getting ready to keru some anglo ass

>>149758696
The size of your characters and the balance between the radicals is all over the place, and the little curlicue you use instead of a hook makes it look like you're trying to emulate seal script.

But you've already learned more than most people ever will so good job.

>>149758884
落下傘兵ですか。 かっこいですね

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>>149758952
By curlicue you mean shit like this? If yes, then I didn't know it wasn't ok. Should I just plainly write them without any loops(curlicues) at the corners? It is indeed because of my trying to emulate how I normally write in our alphabet, but it is still understandable I think. And about the sizes, yeah, I never seem to get the proportions right no matter how much I'm trying. Thanks for your kind words, good sir! Kek

>>149758444
ankiはわからないです・たすけてください

今日は何を学んだか

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>>149758696
What the hell are you doing nigger?

>>149759396
あんたのかあさんの膣内の形

>>149758696
>that 閉
I hope this is a joke

>>149759467
Apparently trying to distance as far apart as I can each radical from each other for some unknown reason. Other than that fine I think, how about you?

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>>149759337
what do you mean, are you having problem organizing decks? adding words? changing amount of words?


or what anki itself is?

How do the japanese talk to their superiors in the military? Do they have to use super polite language all the time?

>>149759516
It can be if you want it to be. Truth be told I was in a hurry when I wrote these so don't blame me if some came out a little off.

>>149759467
Runes?

>>149759512
乱暴だな

>>149759618
I have downladed the recommended deck for vocab but I dont really get how it all works in general

>>149759623
Dude, Japanese and Chinese text have this principle of being contained within a single same-sized block for each character all throughout. You shouldn't be doing variable character sizes.

>>149759396
何も

>>149759646 殺 don't they look fairly similar?

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>>149759554
That shit on the bottom left is supposed to be a tree radical. You probably learned form some Chinese font and have been drawing it wrong ever since.

>>149759659
まあな
自慢するつもりはないが、結構乱暴だった

>>149758696
Are you a little grill? All the girls in elementary school used to add swirls into their writing and I find it hard to believe an adult would actually write like that.

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>>149758820
>he doesn't know
Good goy

>>149759790
Fucking hell you're right. I'm dumb, well thanks a lot. Now my 暗殺 will finally see justice.

>>149759842
I wish I was a grill, it's just that it is embedded into my writing to twirl the letters like that in order to write faster.

>>149758696
>that 閉
My nutbladder goes awoo.

Ugly タs and ugly 家s. Pretty 待s. Keep pushing.

Other than that, this whole calligraphy divination gypsy shit is bollocks, I'm the most autistic and uncaring person of all, but my handwriting is cheerful, energetic and friendly.

日本語と英語だけを話すよ。

>>149758696
Get yourself some square-block paper and watch some youtube videos on how to space radicals correctly. If you care about your handwriting that is.

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>>149759726
そんないい加減な事言うな
>>149759666
just open the deck file to import the deck into anki, change new words per day to a number you're comfortable with (start with 20, and change accordingly to your needs) and set new reviews per day to 9999.
with all that, just start studying. be sure to double check the guide if you don't get something.

>>149754308
シノツ literally indistinguishable

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>>149759618
WHERE IS SEKIGUCHI, YOU MORON?

How do you say construction as in "grammar construction"?

>>149760024

If you have シ or ツ as the only japanese character in one of your online names then you should kill yourself.

>>149760054
構文

>>149760071
¯\_(シ)_/¯　¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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When you were finally able to understand J-J dictionaries, did you go ahead and change everything in anki to 日本語 or did you just leave it in English? That shit is gonna take forever to change

>>149760267
I barely look at the definitions especially for mature words so that would be pointlesss.

>>149760438
Same here. I'll just do it for new words then

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Nonstandard Japanese dialects are basically no better than monkey speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9HoIiQYI3s

Our guys is talking about fluency. Don't give up guys!

I thought Komeiji was our guy? Or are there several?
Do we have an our guy list?

>>149757806
>Korean
I want to read Americano exodus desu ;_;

>>149761464
Namasensei is was our guy. RIP

>>149761464
>>149761619
Wrong. Based Steve is and has always been /ourguy/.

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>>149760680
Why is fake 敬語 allowed?

>>149760267
I only use J-J definitions when I find the J-E definition insufficient. For example, I recently went through the word "醸し出す". The EDICT definition for that was "to engender; to bring about", which seemed rather vague, so I looked up a J-J definition and got "ある気分や感じなどを作り出す。" which is much more specific.

im your guy

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I am sorry for my bad english. I am having difficult time identifying first kanji. Using many radical dictionaries but cannot find inner radical. Maybe retarded. Help appreciated? Kanji on a shipping label to non-japanese company? We are all very confused. Will likely not understand even with help. Thank you anyways. 4chan last hope

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Hello, I want to practice writing. In your opinion, which of these four should I use to write?

>>149762243
Also, excuse me for my ugly a.

>>149762144
It is 癅, alternate form of of 瘤.

>>149762144
癅 it is actually separated in 3 it seems. The bottom is that square divided from side to side and up and down

>>149762243
The one that causes less friction. I hate it when the kanji I write don't come out as I wanted to.

>部長は鈴木さんにアメリカに出張させました。
>部長は鈴木さんをアメリカに出張させました。
どちらの方が正しいですか。

教えてくれてありがとう

>>149762243
I think probably the 4th one

>>149762456
>>149762425
Thank you kind anons. Now will puzzle meaning.

>>149762243
I choose scissors.

>>149762243
The pencil. Biros require too much force to get the ink going, a pencil is much more predictable and will last you longer.

>>149762243
Write with blood, that's the only way to truly understand the form of kanji.

>past tense conjugation
>so many variables depending on what the word ends/what 段 is the verb
Do I need to learn this?

What's the difference between putting の between two nouns and not putting it?

>>149762628
No, no, of course not
You don't have to learn Japanese either

>>149762524
「が」か「を」がいいかもしれません

>>149762425
>>149762456
How did you guys find it?

>>149762628
Someone who knows English has no right to complain about past tense conjugation in Japanese.

>>149762628

Just pick it up passively reading. Past tense is probably one of the easiest grammar points to acquire.

>>149762628
That'll take you a couple of days, use associations. Quit whining.

>>149762680
I knew it was probably the 異体字 of something because of the strange inner radical so I searched for kanji containing the outer radical using http://www.edrdg.org/cgi-bin/wwwjdic/wwwjdic?1R

And then found 瘤, which seemed like a likely candidate because of the 田, and turned out to be correct.

>>149762535
>>149762597
>>149762619
wow thanks!

>>149762779
You're welcome. Don't forget to show us your results later.

>>149762524
どっちでもバカみたいぜ

>>149762649
Noun+の+Noun means the first noun is modifying the second, like an adjective.

Sometimes a certain combination is just so common it ends up dropping the の in the middle. Not much to it really.

>>149762715
How so?

>>149762524
>ですか。
止めろ。

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>>149762807
Sorry for the bad quality, but here is my today's practice.

(it hurts a lot to cut my hand with the scissors, fuck)

>>149763054
そして、「でございますか。」でいいですか。

>>149762524
http://www.tomojuku.com/blog/shieki/shieki-jyoshi/

「アメリカへの出張」という構造もあり

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>>149763177
>そして

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>>149763122
訳わからない。意味わからない。何も分からない。

>>149763260
What? They told me to write with blood and this is what I did.

>>149763122
you got issues bro pls dont self harm