Don't worry, OP, he'll make a come back
>Physical body destroyed
>Yet is still alive somehow
The reason why the preview barely showed anything of Zamasu after he was "done for" is because he becomes the new
Giygasand they didn't want to spoil.
What about the preview description? It makes mention of him still somehow being alive despite the final blow and not having a physical body.
There's even a bit where the preview mentions everyone is in a dire situation which leads Goku into finding out the button. What on earth could make Goku, of all things, resort to the button in the first place?
Something that you can't hit.
Mist, so to speak, but might not be exactly that, probably his spirit/essence.
Ten seconds for the ten seconds he was going completely nuts and sobbing and shit and was in the middle of transforming I was so fucking ready and waitign for him to transform into an evil last level super boss form.
Toei is eternally cheap as fuck and everyone on board writes for preschool kids.
I hope Zen-chan just destroys the whole future timeline and Trunks with it. Fuck this garbage arc.
they are the heroes the world needs but doesn't deserve
>have an amazing fusion character design
>ruin it an episode later by turning it into a purple goo monster with a big goofy hand
fuck everything forever, the quality died with Black
I think Toyotaro will give him Black's Scythe or not go with mutation in a more subtle way..after all it was Black's side he would want something beautiful not a giant Broly like arm
>V:You know you aren't immortal anymore
>Z: I wanted not to be immortal
Zamasu then proceeds to be fucking immortal
fused Zamasu with the scythe would have been badass.
Maybe we could have actually gotten an explenation for it
Going from wanna be almighty god with the whole halo thing to basically becoming the reaper would have been more fitting than purple blob=bad guy.
Turning his color from green to purpe would have also been okay, but what we got is basically a yugioh villain.
Nah, he's going to be Zeno's new friend.
At least I hope. Don't kill off Daddy Zamasu, Toei. He's sorry.
Pep in ripperoni, god of light
The only power stronger than you, the Asspullus Maximus, has taken you from us too soon.
Black was mortal? I just assumed he also made the wish to be immortal since he just kept surviving despite being repetitively beaten to a pulp several times throughout the whole arc.
Okay, I do realize that Toriyama has brain problems that have only gotten worse throughout the years
But holy shit
Where was the problem in just asking the Super Ultra Shenlongdong or whatever he was called, who can and will grant any (any) wish to just wipe out all mortal human life in the universe?
I mean what the fuck?
? ? ?
Using the Super Dragon Balls to wipe out all mortals wouldn't be utsukushii. As the one and only true God this is HIS job.
Zamass a shit. the only good guy was Buraku
The biggest question we should be all asking ourselves is who will serve Gowasu tea now?
now we will never know how he created his Goku Black version clothes
The wrong person died that day. It should have been Trunks. That sordid sinner violated the time travel law and caused all this travesty. He should have accepted his fate and allow his world and die out. Goku should not be alive, Zamasu only wanted to rectify these mistakes.
It starts with SSRose and Black going "beautiful" shit. But it was pretty obvious Zamasu was getting insaner with time.
The problem here is that Zamasu and Black were gods and they never seemed a universe ending threat. Super Buu for example, just by screaming could break dimensions, any ki blast from him were nuclear bombs. Black and Zamasu never erased the city or killed all humans like Buu did. The humans even fought back against them and the humans escaped a bunch of times(sniper a god, even touch him with a bullet and get away with it, really..?), when Buu, Cell or Freeza would have vaporized in a instant.
It's almost as if the character is intentionally written to be a petty, unstable and vain manchild pretending to be a God to make up for his own insecurity after getting his ass handed to him by a ningen
I really like how Goku's body affected Black's mentality despite being Zamasu. His need to get stronger, his desire to be challenged, his love for battle, even how he talks just shows how Goku's body has impacted Black Zamasu. I'm honestly surprised that Future Zamasu didn't point that out or was disgusted over the fact that his alternate past counterpart was heading towards acting like the Saiyans they hated so much. Black even took Goku's name. I was kind of hoping Black survived so the audience can see if Black starts acting like Goku more and more as each day passes.
Is this how the Gods repay such a good boy? fuck this entire universe. justice simply doesn't exist.
Why the hell is Black even leaner and has darker skin than regular Goku anyway? And if it's Zam possessing Goku's body, I find it strange that he kept Goku's messy hairstyle. I always thought Zam would cut it or at least use some hair gel to make it more formal to fit with his more refined personality.
>justice simply doesn't exist.
HE was JUSTICE
And that is why his defeat at the hands of trunks is the perfect ending,This was trunks Saga
>using spirit power from less than 100 people is enough to surpass SSB Vejito and whatever the fuck Zamasu is
God Super has been such a fucking train wreck. When will the pain end? How much longer can they drag this shit on for? I want GT back.
Maybe it's Goku fit to look like what Zamasu would prefer him to look as, under his discipline.
fuck if I know
Either that or he's got such a hard-on over being in Goku's body, he doesn't even bother changing his hair or outfit to look more like his own.
He probably even wanks every once in a while in Goku's body.
He Got Hit By a Cock Much Bigger
Because the other gods would probably notice and either kill him or imprison him and wish everything back. But they can't really do that if he is strong enough to kill them all
>Piccolo was suddenly as strong as Freeza in his second form after spending less than a month at King Kai's planet doing nothing, and after fusing with Nail who got beaten with ease by Freeza in his first form.
>Saiyan Saga = Monkey Fetish
>Ginyu Tokusentai Arc = Posing Fetish
>Frieza Arc = Transformation Fetish
>Androids/Cell Saga = Absorption Fetish
>Buu Saga = Candy-Flavored Transformation Fetish, AND Fusion Fetish
ntr doujins when
and gero couldnt build even a mini time machine, guess why, because he didnt care about it just like bulma dont care about building robots/cyborgs, if she was interested she probably could build even better and stronger
>We will never get villains as great as the soul mates again.
It is not fair.
Here lies ZAMASU the not so immortal god of memes.
He died as he lived, sperging about NINGENS while getting BTFO by them.
May he R.I.P(REEE In Peace) and let Zen-chan have mercy on his soul.
His tea will be severely missed.
I miss them too anon, I don't think I can l hold on much longer without them.
Zamasu is coming back. He's going to team up with Trunks to stop Zeno destroying the future timeline while nuGoku laughs and says "well, he is a god (about Zeno)" while Vegeta makes grunting noises and doesn't do anything. He's still immortal, he's going to return as a non-fused being and explain that he's realized he may have been wrong.
Why the hell isn't Future Zeno not intervening when all his Supreme Kais and Gods of Destruction are dead in this timeline? You think he, of all people, would notice when the gods aren't doing their job.
Character of the year. The man who surpassed each of the DBZ villains at their goals. The man who made himself the most personal enemy of Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks. A racist, sadist, masochistic, autistic, homosexual, the man we all want to be. The best tea maker you'll ever meet. The only one to give Vegito a decent fight. Two 10/10 vocal performances by two of the best seiyuu in the business. Truly, he did nothing wrong.
May flights of Whis' fly you to your rest. RIP in peace Zamasu.
I remember when I first laid eyes upon Zamasu. I didn't expect much out of him, just some edgy Kaioshin, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. Zamasu went above and beyond what it means to be a villain, crossed entire universes to see his goals go through. His singleminded dedication to his goal is something that I have only the utmost admiration for. I don't know where he is now, but I know for certain it's a better place.
I will pray for you, Zamasu!
Don't forget about Black.
Black was way better than he had any right to be.
Literally everyone thought he was going to be a shitty villain untill his reveal.
>Yfw he first appeared looking smug as fuck with his shit eating grin and looking stylish to boot with his /fa/ turtleneck
>Yfw he fights graceful as fuck while being on par with ssj 2 goku while only being in his base form
>Yfw he literally turns ssj pink, but he rocks it like it is no ones business and it even makes him look more dapper than he already is.
>Yfw he BTFO Vegeta
>Yfw he BTFO Goku right after
Everything about him sounds fucking stupid on paper, but he really made it fucking work and BTFO everyones expectations of him.
There's more than one Zeno? I thought him being the King of Everything, the Gods of gods, would mean he's outside of time and space? That there is only one Zeno, one and the same, for all the different timelines and universes.
>story involves a meme villain
>drops all pretenses and goes completely to shit once the villain devolves into a too monster
>both times a Trunks is involved
And what happens if two of the same person fuses? If Future Trunks and little Trunks fuses, would they become old Trunks? What about the Mai's? What if Future Trunks and little Mai fuses and do lewd things with the fusion of Future Mai and little Trunks? Would that be masturbation, selfcest or the purest form of love?
Out of curiosity. Is Old Witch considered a Kai? Like because she's permanently fused to Old Kai. Or is it simply that fusing with a Kai in general fuses you permanently.
Why didn't old Kai ever get the dragonballs to split himself apart again. Does he like being old?
Not really. Vegito was whooping his ass and if given more time probably could've done the same thing.
Not only that, but if you recall Vegeta and Goku ALSO gave energy to that ball of energy, meaning it's still probably rivals the power of Vegito.
Do potara earings have a recharge time? Like when Vegito unfuses they still have both ear rings on.
Can they only use one pair of ear rings once?
Can they repeatedly use the same ones but they need to wait for them to recharge before they're active again?
Can they just take them off and put them right back on and fuse again?
I'm the only one on 4chan that liked when Trunks killed Zamasu, and the way it happened? I like Freeza, Black/Zamasu were cool but Zamasu motivation to kill everything alive was just autistic.
This is like if you were a bug exterminator and a cockroach came up and tried to fuck you
IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE THAT'S WHY.
>Black and Zamasu never erased the city or killed all humans like Buu did
they did, they literally killed almost all ningens and gods alike
Ok, just saw it, and all I can say is that is was ok but the bullshit was a little too much
>vegetto getting massive retcon
Fucking absolute bullshit, really, might as well use gogetto if you want a fucking filler, why this is bullshit is because they could have handled this in a different, much better way, like "I'm a god and I can undo the fusion by Potara" with some magic tricks from Zamasu, not recycling fucking GT of all things.
>Trunks learning skills out of no-fucking-where
Absolute bullshit, power-of-love tier, at least show him practicing some shit instead of being literally LOL I DID IT XD
Barring those 2, it was a good episode, very well animated and Zamasu's VA fucking broke the house with it, definitively they could have done it better though.
that is a nice little home you have there
Would be a shame if something would happen to it...
>"WAAAAAAH IT'S THE GOKU SHOW NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING ANYMORE EXCEPT GOKU!"
>someone other than Goku defeats the villain
Of course it's a fucking asspull, retards. It would have been an asspull for Trunks to win no matter how they handled it. Hell, if anything, using the power from a bunch of other people, including Goku and Vegeta to deliver a single attack is probably less of an asspull than if he had suddenly gone SSGSS or some shit. Yeah, it's stupid, but isn't this still what people wanted? Or are all of the people who were complaining about the Goku show just Gohanfags and they don't like this because it's Trunks and not Gohan?
>Zeno's aware of what's been going on and doesn't care
if anything. he's been watching the entire time.
It's like watching a tv show for him
Yeah, it's most likely this. I think they made it kind of clear that Zeno is kind of a dick. He'll show up and say that this was fun and then fix the planet on a whim, possibly hoping that it will happen again.
>. I think they made it kind of clear that Zeno is kind of a dick.
Would you consider yourself a dick for watching some ants fighting against each other but doing nothing to stop them? This is how Zeno feels. Other beings are ants, and he is just a little kid with his 12 ant colonies.
Let's say the fusion didn't job, could Vegeto kill off fusion zamasu?, it seemed to me like he always had the upper hand on the fight, even when he got hit it felt like he did it only to pierce zamasu the way he Black did it with vegeta some chapters back, it never looked that Vegeto was in pain or anything at all.
They're his ants, though. He created them. And he also created Zamasu. He created everything. I don't think that he should interfere in every single affair, but when a god goes rogue, kills every other god and then starts killing the humans, that really sounds like the kind of time where he should have put things in order. Also, he's definitely a dick. Just look at him being a dick to his servants in that episode where Goku went to visit him. He even threatened his bodyguards for doing their job. It really looks to me like the Supreme Kais are the loving gods and Zeno is the Old Testament God, just being a dick all the time.
Wasn't GT the Goku show? Like, harder than ever before?
Then I think you only remember the first arc. Trunks dropped out of the show completely after that. And Pan tagged along during the Baby and Dragon sagas, but Goku was the one doing all the fighting and defeating all of the enemies. Pan was just sort of the new Bulma.
Pan was an annoying useless little shit.
Fuck, bitch can''t even go Super Saiyan.
How useless can one character get? This is why I'm baffled people want more female saiyans, can't you see how useless they actually are just by looking at Bra and Pan? They are so useless not even a single one of them maanged to escape the Saiyan Genocide. All of them were in the planet ready to be made into Planetary Fireworks by Frieza.
>Pan was an annoying useless little shit.
Eat shit for that one. Pan is one of the only qties in all of DB.
if the spoilers are true hes going to become a mist and spread throught the atmosphere. with no other way to beat him, goku remembers about the button being with him and he calls Zeno
Pure? Look at this little slut. Look at her.
She's been around the block.
Zamasu is just General Blue with a higher power level though
What was that rift Black opened?
What were those gas clones?
What is Trunk's transformation?
What was that sword spirit bomb thing?
How did Trunks go from SSJ2 to Vegito level?
Why did this arc go full power of friendship at the end?
Why is Goku so stupid now?
Is SSJB the worst transformation in the series?
Why was Vegito so underwhelming?
How is Goku alone stronger than Trunks and Vegeta together?
>What was that rift Black opened?
A product of a new move born from his powerup which is infused with God Ki.
>What were those gas clones?
Energy apparitions along the same lines as Gotenks' Ghosts.
>What is Trunk's transformation?
The perfected form of USJ or a result of him being surrounded by God Ki for an extended period of time, getting all those zenkai boosts.
>What was that sword spirit bomb thing?
Plot, though him repairing his sword with Ki before makes sense. Vegito can make a sword out of Ki, why can't the character who has been using a sword since his teenage years also form one?
>How did Trunks go from SSJ2 to Vegito level?
He wasn't at his level, Vegito had served his purpose in disrupting Zamasu's power, Trunks came in about to lose and was only saved with the Genki-dama sword.
>Why did this arc go full power of friendship at the end?
You're acting like it doesn't, ever.
It always does, aside from Frieza who just got rekt.
>Why is Goku so stupid now?
>Is SSJB the worst transformation in the series?
Fuck no it's fantastic, it reset transformations and kept it to a simple one.
>Why was Vegito so underwhelming?
He wasn't though, he was fighting a god that was infused with a powered up Rose Black after that Vegeta throwdown. He was also half immortal giving him a physical resistance buff and regen factor
>How is Goku alone stronger than Trunks and Vegeta together?
He was able to win momentarily by expending all his energy and pushing his body beyond his limits, his arms were done after that blast.
That isn't a victory, and it doesn't make him stronger than both Vegeta and Trunks seeing as how he had a larger repercussion.
it was dissapointing that they retconned the potora fusion.
but i understand the idea that it should be trunks that defeats zamasu, as it's his timeline and world.
shame we could have had some nice filler episodes with vegetto hanging around his family and friends, waiting until they could use the dragon balls again, so he could wish to unfuse.
was zamasu a supreme kai?
He just happened to defuse after putting down his barrier inside buu since time ran out at that exact moment :^)
Gotenks lasted 30 minutes as a SSJ3 (which requires more stamina than SSB) compared to SSB Vegetto. Potara fusion is stronger though, trust me I'm Toei :^)
Fusion dance is stronger than Potara by canon now.
Gowasu mentioned it was the fusion that went wrong
An immortal fusing with a mortal made his fusion fucked up.
But for the most part Fusion Zamasu was thrashing Goku and Vegeta. Even breaking SSB Goku's limbs like nothing...
>faggots saying powerlevels were bad
As someone who just rewatched the Namek/Frieza arc, neck yourself. Every single episode was better than the entirety of Super put together.
As soon as powerlevels stopped, it all went downhill. It's not a coincidence. The insane escalation was half the charm.
putting potara makes you a kaioshin, this is a fact, your fanfiction that only kaio can become kaioshin in literally headcanon, we already had kaioshins htat are other races from kaios in dbz
Not him but here, use google next time
Imma be honest with you man the only thing that the manga did better then the anime is : beerus vs champa/ trunks vs dabura.
Hit vs goku was fucking shite and I think he gonna fuck it up with the final of trunks arc too.
God bless toyotaro.
We could have ended up with worse.
I don't think vegeta takes their relationship seriously enough to give two shits about what she does. Considering the long periods he goes off training, I wouldn't be surprised if she fucks around, and I wouldn't be surprised if the thought never crossed vegetas mind because he cares so little about it.
So, my thoughts may not be correct, but I believe the reason he was able to be defeated by trunks is that the final form switch Zamasu did made him extremely slow and made him noticably weaker - Considering Zamasu couldn't land shit after the last transformation, it seems like it's the equivalent of going high-power super sayian where you are slow and useless but really strong.
I don't think he could "untransform" from this state though, and even somebody as weak as trunks could beat him.
Only reason vegeta and goku didn't is because they shoe horned the time limit being shorter for no fucking reason.
You know what really makes me sad about the potara retcons?
They were never planning on Vegito to be actually relevant they just put him in for nostalgiabait and nothing more.
The fact that the fusion now only last for 5 minutes means that we will probably never see Vegito in action again since the fusion is basically useless.'
From the very start of this arc they never had any intention to put in any real effort in to his return, because they delibaretely gave Goku and Vegeta their old outfits just for this arcso that they don't have to give him a new outfit.
They retcon and nerf the fuck out of him just to do jackshit with him and because of that we will probably never see him do anything worthwhile again.
I would rather have no Vegito at all if it meant that they were going to screw him over this hard.
so goku alone killed black inside blamasu right? and we have to believe this is not retarded?
>so goku alone killed black inside blamasu right? and we have to believe this is not retarded?
Well it makes sense. Black isn't a true immortal, so the cells that belong to him died and can't come back. This is just what happens when you are dependent on immortality and not invulnerability.
How would you react if the next arc someone catastrophic happens that somehow weakens or puts the strongest people out of action and the only ones left are people like Krillin, Tien and Yamcha?
I can work with this
Did you even watch the episode?
The fusion only lasted for a few minutes, because Vegito Blue drained the fused state too much, just like how ssj 3 gotenks also doesn't last the full 30 minutes.
most likely if they used the fusion dance, going ssj blue would have made them defuse after 1 minute.
with ssj3 already shortening it from 30 minutes to 5 minutes, blue would have been even shorter.
it's a lame ass pull what they did to the potora fusion, we could have had a few fun episodes of vegetto just being around his family and friends until they could use the dragon balls again.
nothing is implied on the show that black-side got killed when zamasu's half turned into goo. if that's the case, zamasu shouldn't have control of that side but you see him morphing it like it's one of his abilities.
Dude Black was getting worn down
Vejobber beat the shit out of him
2x Final flashes from vejobber and son hit him
1x Full Power Kamehaha
that and all of the self inflicted explosions from having his power blow up in his face
Yeah it doesn't really make sense logically.
Zamasu is just Goku + Old Zamasu (Probably SSJ1~SSJ2 power wise)
Vegito is SSJB Goku + Vegita.
There's no way they should have had any trouble. He should have been on a whole different level. In fact, he definitely should have been more powerful than Beerus.
> Vegetto "jobs"
Did we watch the same episode? Vegetto severely weakened Fusion Zamasu.
Vegetto sure as hell did a lot more in this fight than what Gogeta did with Omega Shenron
good thing for zamasu that kai's don't have dicks
> Not this faggot again
all gogeta did was play around and behave like a faggot.
while vegetto was beating the shit out of zamasu
Vegetto attack did nothing if he truly weakened zamasu. Zamasu wouodnt have recovered from the slashes that trunks gave him in the beginning before absorbing the spirit bomb. heck trunks without the spirit bomb managed to parry and overpower merged zamasu better then fucking jobetto
i don't think there's any denying stardust breaker would have completely wiped zamasu on the particle level
Vegetto weakened Fusion Zamasu enough to allow somebody like Trunks to kill a god-tier character
Reminder that children who are watching DBS before Z and seeing Vegetto for the first time will remember him as nothing more than a massive failure.
zamasu went full broly in this ep
Bitch that was all trunks
Vegitofags in full damage control.
Well just that one samefag lol
I almost do feel like crying when I am watching super.
Tfw I am a Gohan and piccolofag as well.
>kills a Super Buu tier character
> therefore it should kill god-tier Fusion Zamasu
Also it's "Soul Breaker" in the games now. It wasn't "Stardust Breaker" since Budokai.
How else do you explain a SS2 killing someone's who is basically Beerus-tier?
Vegetto beat the shit out of him. And the damage he was taking was real, since he lost his immortality by fusing with Black
I fucking hate Future Trunks and even I know this. Vegetto didn't do shit. He was nothing more than fanservice to get people to watch the episode. He failed to do anything of relevance.
>How else do you explain a SS2 killing someone's who is basically Beerus-tier?
Zamasu went full Malik this episode
>How else do you explain a SS2 killing someone's who is basically Beerus-tier?
Trunks at this point was stronger then vegito. he had absorbed the power of the entire remaining earth and goku/vegeta.
You have to be retarded to think that trunks is still ssj2 level at this point. HE was already keeping up with black and immortal zamasu when he turnes psuedo god
>tfw we'll never see Vegito again
I cant live with this
No you watch the show again.
Now Vegeta knows Vegito is only temporary, we can be sure to see Vegito again. The only problem is making sure that a Kai is nearby when the fighting starts, and I don't think Beerus wants the Supreme Kai ANYWHERE near Goku and Vegeta when the fighting starts.
>i have nothing logical to say
>better call him a troll
a few hundred people and goku and vegeta's power, made a medium sized spirit bomb.
meanwhile back on namek, goku made a far larger spirit bomb and it barely hurt frieza.
>Vegetto beat the shit out of him. And the damage he was taking was real,
if it now only lasts an hour and only 5 minutes with ssj blue. it would be a short fight that would bore beerus quickly
No I mean that Beerus doesn't want the Supreme Kai near any fighting.
Kill the Supreme Kai and Beerus dies too. Beerus will probably flip the fuck out when he hears that the Supreme Kai went to the future with Gowasu with the time ring.
and he defused next page.
trunks and goten even talk about before they fight buu that ssj3 shortens their fusion time to 5 minutes.
I love trunks but some things are just pure bullshit.
1st asspull transformation
2nd learning mafuba in 5min/ which took goku a whole night and goku is supposed to be the fighting genuis of the show
3rd nakama genkidama out of nowhere
There were other stuff too before but those 3 are the ones that stuck out.
I am tired of mary sue
i still think that buu's crazy magic inside his body is a solid reason why it would cancel out kai magic inside his body.
>a few hundred people and goku and vegeta's power
And also all of nature. Namek's nature was stated to be very weakened, while Black was intentionally avoiding hurting the planet, and only going after humans.
See. I'd rather have it that god ki wasnt a thing everyone had and we just got them in SSJ2 and 3 doing this.
Give Black his edgy rose hair because he's a bastard amalgamation of a kai and a ningen.
Also solves why Zamasu wasn't instantly wiped out in every fight by Goku or Vegeta and why Trunks could keep up otherwise.
5 minutes as ssj3
gogeta in gt with ssj4 was barely 3 minutes.
ssj blue being even stronger would what make it 1 minute at most?
>2nd learning mafuba in 5min/ which took goku a whole night and goku is supposed to be the fighting genuis of the show
Piccolo is the master of energy techniques. He even offered Goku to teach him the Mafuuba.
Piccolo trained Gohan. Gohan trained Trunks.
Essentially, Piccolo trained Trunks. Gohan was trained in the "Demon Clan" school, basically.
When Trunks watched that video of Piccolo doing the Mafuuba, he was watching the original master of his fighting school telling him what to do.
I'm a huge Piccolofag, so I immediately picked that up when Bulma showed that video.
>1st asspull transformation
>2nd learning mafuba in 5min/ which took goku a whole night and goku is supposed to be the fighting genuis of the show
>3rd nakama genkidama out of nowhere
He unconsciously summoned thebspirit bomb. It was his body doing. He learned using the ki of other when the two kids gave him his dagger.
>3rd nakama genkidama out of nowhere
Pretty sure the genki dama out of nowhere was the entire point.
It's a miracle. Willing to bet that Beerus says something like "*yawn* I guess there are things even us Gods don't understand...".
>piccolo training gohan is headcanon
>gohan training trunks is headcanon
You're grasping at straws REALLY hard now. Did you Narutofags even watch the Saiyan saga and the Android saga?
>Just watched the new episode
I just keep on winning this month it seems....
Because the mafuba was originally a technique created by roshi's master so its not from the demon school or else goku would be able to learn the technique in no time since he studied under roshi by your logic.
So? Piccolo uses the Mafuuba in DB to seal Kami in a bottle.
It doesn't matter if it's a technique from Roshi's master... when Piccolo Daimo was sealed, he saw the technique, and understood it.
So when Piccolo Daimo reincarnated into Piccolo Jr., he already knew the technique. He knew it so well, he was able to come up with the Mafuuba Reflection technique on the fly when he fought Kami at the tournament.
Thats not the point.
The issue is that trunks learned faster then goku even though goku is a genuis.
Trunks was dumb enough to turn into ss grade 3 because he thought power was everything. even vegeta noticed the speed drawback and settled for grade 2 only.
When I said I want Gohanfags to leave
this isn't what I meant
Piccolo had daimao's memories we dont know how long it took piccolo to come up with a counter.
Still doesnt change the fact to why was trunks able to pick up the maguba so quickly before annyone else.
>even though goku is a genuis.
>goku is a genuis
>goku = genuis
We do know how long it took Piccolo to come up with a counter.
Piccolo came up with a counter between Kami starting the Mafuuba and just before Piccolo was about to get sucked in by the Mafuuba wave.
Piccolo is the undefeated master when it comes to using ki energy projections. He might not keep up with the power levels of everyone, but he's still the guy you want around when you want to learn a new blast or develop a new one.
Which reminds me, why don't they use Piccolo to develop newer better energy beams?
If goku is a retard then vegeta must be braindead
I want to smell Trunks after he trains. I want to wash his clothes and make him dinner, then later he can shoot his large saiyan load all inside and over my body.
Vegeta didn't get a hint on Hit's ability.
If Goku had gone first against Hit, and Vegeta had gotten a hint on Hit's ability, Vegeta would have just gone full-force in one attack and knocked Hit out of the arena without any bullshit.
Goddamn Goku, "Hit's holding back, if we let him use his assassination tricks, I can see his full power!".
Vegetto outright lost an exchange with Zamasu. He literally got overpowered, gut-punched and screamed in agony from it. That alone proves even if he is stronger than Zamasu, it's by such a small amount that the difference is negligible at best. Not only that, but nothing he did ever fazed Zamasu at all. Even a Final Kamehameha was brushed off like it was nothing. None of this is even mentioning that the guy only lasts five minutes now.
So yeah, he got shat on hard. Trunks is stronger than him, Zamasu can easily outlast him, and if it turns out Beerus is still stronger than the fused characters, he would simply laugh at him.
He didn't just get nerfed, he got fucking neutered.
The mafuba isn't hard to learn on fly now compared to earlier dragon ball when everyone and their mother barely knew what ki and ki control was. The only thing that Goku was learning that was giving him a hard time was making sure he was able to hit the sealing jar, which toei made it harder for him to just extend the episode and add comic value.
>Piccolo came up with a counter between Kami starting the Mafuuba
piccolo knew already about the mafuba because daimao memories and developped a counter to it.
It took tien a whole night to learn the technique and he is a fast learner too
> Black's mortality ruins Zamasu's fusion
> Vegetto beats the shit out of Fusion Zamasu since he's not immortal anymore
> Trunks cuts a weakened Fusion Zamasu
Pay attention faggots
>The gut-punch was a switch and bait to trick Zamasu into getting humiliated.
No, it wasn't. He was trying his hardest to beat Zamasu during that power struggle. He lost the struggle and got the wind knocked out of him for it. He simply recovered from it quickly.
>Still trying to damage control
Cuckgettofags eternally BTFO
>trunks spirit bomb asspull
Will all be considered filler once the manga drops out.
S-STOP IT NOW FAGGOT. VEGITO WILL COME BACK FOR BEERUS.
Mai is the single biggest disappointment in the arc. She didn't do shit. What's the point of pairing her up with Trunks if she's just going to turn into a generic love interest? You could have replaced her with random resistance girl #232 and nothing about her dialogue would change.
Her battles with Black should be like Mr.Satan vs Kid Buu.She should be a fun,goofy gag character. What a fucking waste. This is literally what dragonball evolution did to her.
Do you even know who Vegito is?
Did you actually believe Vegito would fight a battle without emotionally destroying his opponent aside from physically destroying his opponent?
He made Zamasu cry. Not even Super Buu cried when he was being humiliated and wrecked by Jawbreaker Vegito.
no you didnt, it was goku that made zamasu a goo, vegetto did absolutely nothing to zamasu
Not as much as you Black, you basically became the equivalent of a tumor.
We going to get nees of a new arc in december. toyotaro is supposed to be ahead of the manga. hoe the fuck will he wrap up this arc in two chapters?
Onky way would be goku/vegeta/trunks jobbing and then for zeno to appear right away. might be logical but it sure is boring
are you baiting or are you retarded?
the potaras make you kaioshin if you're a kai if worn on the one side. if worn on the other you'll fuse. the fusion is permanent if you're a kaioshin and only lasts an hour if you're not a god.
you retarded piece of shit
Realistically, they could still use Vegito.
The only reason he split apart way too early was because he went SSB, which used up all the fusion energy.
They could easily have Vegito come back and just stay base, or go SSJ or something.
I'm almost convinced this is exactly why they gave us the fuck-off retarded hour limit. Specifically so they could use him again without making up weird reasonings every time they wanted to defuse him.