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best boy coming through
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And here i thought love-no-jutsu was over with naruto and bleach. Who the fuck ok-ed this shit.
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>>149695680
He's a Mary Sue

>Setup Mafuba
>LOL, FORGOT THE SEAL :^)
>Setup Vegito
>LOL, TIME LIMIT ASS PULL
>Do fuck all to setup Trunks somehow learning the Genkidama and ripping off Super Android 13
>A-AT LEAST IT'S NOT GT!!!1!!

At this point hating on GT is a fucking meme, Super has done the same and worse
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You now remember Oopa and Puar actually won a fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhaBesurJ-0
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The better boy has lavender hair. Super Trunks is shit.
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>>149695680
BEST BOY
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B
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>>149695680
kill yourself GT fag
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>>149695742
>Super has done the same
If it had done the same Trunks and Vegeta would've been on the sidelines after their first loss and Goku would tell them that they're too wear to fight fused Zamasu with him.
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>tfw you will never be an autistic NEET who gets physically mad over a Japanese cartoon
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>>149695792
fuck this world
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>still no subs
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Why goku and vegeta didnt fused back while still wearing potara?
Why are they still able to fuse if they had already fused in buu saga?
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>>149695813
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>>149695789
nah, he would have fused with Vegeta, the fusion would have wore out and Goku would have done the Genkidama

LITERALLY THE SAME AS GT

>>149695792
>y-you fucking nerds! hahahahaha, i'm so much better than you!
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>>149695742
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>>149695813
Shut the fuck up.
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>>149695680

Best Boy, favorite DB character.
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>>149695792
>you will never be an autistic neet who gets to fuck bra
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Toei a shit, the manga will be better.
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>>149695739
watching him fight with only his legs was awesome
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why is trunks hair blue
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>>149695805
What was more retarded, Vegito defusing or Trunks finishing Zamasu?
I go for Vegito
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>>149695680
>>149695742
I told you you fucking faggots, I told you this arc was going to be fucking shit. FTrunks was fucking ruined, why? Because Toei needed a new Gohan, so they made Trunks the ultimate Gary Stue, Toriyama wanted his gag characters and made Mai a love interest instead of making a new and interesting girl (or use FVidel), and because he wants to deny this is Goku and Vegeta show he was going to make Vegetto to job before giving him a good fight.
Pray the next arc is actually good.
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Db needs more black overweight lesbian disabled woman as Mc.
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Settle it, lads.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11639762
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>>149695739
>>149695763
>>149695787
>>149695805
10/10 animation
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Beerus randomly popping in and 'hakai'ing Zamasu would have been a better ending


Also FT is now officially the worst half-saiyan in Dragon Ball, even below fucking Gohan
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>>149695873
Fuck off
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>>149695860
Both.
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SUBS WHEN
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does anybody have the Gowasu edit with WATCH IT ZAMASU
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>>149695860
Vegito
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>>149695680
How will Toyotaro fix this mess?
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>Vegetto fags
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WHY THE FUCK DID THEY RETCON THE POTARA HOLY SHIT COME ON.
JUST LET VEGITO WIN BY HIMSELF LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE, AND WRAP IT UP THERE.
LIKE, COME ON I'M PRETTY MAD.
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In remembrance of this arc, post your favorite god memes
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>>149695853

because TOEI
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FUCKING SUBS WHEN
MAD AS FUCK
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Reminder that Yamcha has won more fights than Vegetto
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>>149695873
gt
ssj4 > ssgss by lightyears
gods of destruction are a pretty cool concept executed poorly-ish, the shadow dragons were the same thing.
Gogeta in gt >>> vegito in super
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>>149695911
please
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meh, fuck the haters

arc was 8/10 til the ending

atleast better than anything GT done
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>they retconned the potara earrings
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>>149695965
See what you say is interesting but not canon.
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>>149695860
Both sucked. Vegetto's fusion retcon fits snugly into canon, but it was just done to allow Trunks to save the day, so it kind of sucks.

Whereas, Trunks saving the day is cool because it's his timeline, but him using a fucking Spirit Bomb just 'cause some kids were holding on to his broken sword and really believed in him. That sucks.

Vegetto fighting a little bit longer, and wearing down Zamasu to where Trunks could take him on without the Spirit Bomb Sword bullshit would have been more digestible.
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I like how Trunks says Vegetto's power is unbelievable, and then proceeds to go to the battlefield with a broken sword like the last couple of minutes didn't even happen.
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http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/special/08.html>>149696004

KAMI TUBE IS ACTUALLY FUCKING REAL
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>>149695989
No, fuck you easily you pleased faggot. I bet you finger fucked your ass to Naruto and creamed every time Ichigo got a new power up in Bleach.
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>>149695944
this arc is hands down the best arc for memes in super

>>149695952
SUBS ARE OUT YOU RETARD
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so are we just ignoring that Vegetto pushed back the blast with one hand that it took father son galick gun/kamehameha to push back before?
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>>149696025
Why can't you faggots fuck off to /pol/?
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SUBS WHEN LADS?
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>>149696025
Based Amish
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>>149695841
Toei follows manga.
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>>149695873
I made this poll just a couple weeks ago and it was majorly in favor of super. Now I'm guessing everyone will be pissed from this episode and vote GT.
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>>149695938
vegito never killed anyone and never will
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At least he made it through unscathed, the ruiner of fusions.
Our based godtuber, our beloved teadrinker.
May his memes prosper yet
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What happened to Toriyama? what is this fucking writing? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
Mary sue spirit bomb sword has to be the gayest thing ever made, literally GT tier bullshit fanfic.
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>>149696038
yes

YES
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>>149696058
What's wrong Anon?
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>>149695952
Literally on anilinkz right now nigger
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>>149695792
Why even waste your time on something you can't get invested in enough to get mad when it turns to complete garbage?
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Goku,gohan and Ftrunks all now have main villain kills
It's time for the prince of all saiyans to finally shine
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trunks finishing with 1 sword reminds me of this and how tv writers try too hard to make an "epic" ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKMffA0uBbA
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>>149696065
Top kek no they don't.
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>>149696005
gt is in basically the same position as super. A Toriyama cash grab that he wanted no input in.
You think when this is over people will consider ssj2 trunks fighting off ssg level people cannon? you think they'll consider that power of love shit cannon?
toei managed to sink the entire series in literally 3 minutes.
>>149695952
are you literally retarded? they're available everywhere. It was even livestreamed subbed.
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>>149695763
>>149695805

I wanted to see more buff Zamasu. At least like a few episodes
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>>149696043
*you easily pleased faggot

Also fuck you again. You have shit taste..
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>>149696025
Link to that thread in the archive?
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>>149695792
>t.GT fag
Your only hope is the rope
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>>149695938
We had to make Trunks the new Teen Gohan. You now realize Black Arc is literally a copy of Cell Arc, and Fused Zamasu is literally Perfect Cell
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>>149695873
At least I enjoyed GT a little even if it was retarded as hell. SSJ4 is pretty cool, as long as you forget that it's only a thing in GT. Super has always left me uninterested and flaccid, but now I'm just dropping it. For good. .Super has ended for me, there is no Dragon Ball Super
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>>149696079
>What happened to Toei?
ftfy
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>>149696076
I don't care about that.
But that fucking retcon of potara's power holy shit i'm so mad REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149696055
And Trunks blocked Zamasu's punches, that few seconds ago were throwing Vegitto left and right, using a broken sword and some kid's good vibes as source of power.
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>>149696055
yes so I can keep spamming that Trunks>SSB Vegetto/Goku/Vegeta/Whis/Beerus/Zeno/Vados for no reason
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>>149695860
Vegito having the same clothes
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>>149695680
It sucks that F Trunk's timeline is pretty much screwed. His world is all abut destroyed, there are less than 100 people, not even nearly enough to fend off inbreeding, so humanity will be extinct in a couple of generations, all the gods are dead, and the countless planets and people killed by Zam, including F Bulma will remain dead, and the dragon balls are destroyed, so none Zam's actions can be repaired.
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>>149695873
>GT is winning
Thank you based anons. I'm fucking tired of superfags still pretending super is even the slightest bit better than GT.
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fucking pieces of SHIT
SUBS WHEN
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>>149696043

Great Snake Escape > All
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>tfw SUPER became worse then GT
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Goku's face makes me laugh
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>>149696135
I still hate Gohan more
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>>149696134
My sides.
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>>149695825
Plese rspd please my friends
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>>149696200
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>>149696038
You think Gowasu will stick around?

What if he got another Kai assistant?
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>>149696166
There's enough people to repopulate the planet. The problems are the gods being dead and the destroyed Super Dragon Balls.
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>>149696156
When was this? Right before he defused he said "can't your body seeped in all your rage keep up with my speed?", dodged his attack and kicked him into a building
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>>149695873
Thing is, I watched GT when I was a young boy and I enjoyed all of it (even though NOW I only remember things like the parasite guy and the dark dragon stuff).

If I decided to give GT and Super the same amount of time now, and put them on a scale,

I wouldn't.

I'm not a child anymore, and neither are all of you. Stop.
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>>149696058
>blue board in screenshot
>"FUCK OFF /POL/"

OOOOHUUUUUHUUU ;____; so sorry that you lefties lost.
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>>149696038
>FT arc has been running since June

Holy shit has it actually been that long?
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>>149696188
Spirit World Kamui is still the greatest asspull in Naruto.
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>>149696043

if you don't like what you see fuck off.
don't you get tired of stalking DB threads?
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>>149695853
To distinguish him from Kid Trunks, Time Patrol Trunks and Trunks (GT).
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>>149696200
nothing can be worse than gt
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>>149696204
And you still like Super, don't you?
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>>149695680
POST YFW MANGA DOESN'T FIX "TOEI'S" ASSPULLS.
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gib ningen cock plz
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>super will never touch you emotionally as GT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeZkPrhsXts
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>>149696251
it really has
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>>149696173
It's not really the right time to make that poll though, many people are mad as fuck because of the episode.
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>>149696213
Watch the episode. It's explained there.
>>149696224
I hope so. I need more tea on my life.
I somehow hope Black, not Zamas, comes back.
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>>149695860
wait how the fuck did vegito defuse? that makes no sense
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>>149695739
>"Kaio-wha?"
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What a fucking trainwreck FUCK YOU TOEI, this isn't fucking fairy tail you faggots.
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>>149695739
Not gonna lie, as much of a retard Goku is in Super, this part was pretty sick. Animation was good too.
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>>149696240
>>149696153
Best boy at work.
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>>149695787
i really like how they mantain Vegito's smugness and being a showoff
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>>149695742
It's Future Trunks' timeline, of course he would play a vital role in it. Hell, the entire arc involving Trunks was for him to be more independent and to be the "Goku" of his timeline because he's the only Z Warrior who can. Even Vegeta encourages Trunks to surpass him and that he shouldn't alway rely on them because they can't be there to answer his plea all the time.
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>>149696079
>GT tier bullshit fanfic
who the fuck do you think made GT?
at least GT didn't completely shit on the canon. It could have been a logical, if only badly written, continuation.
Super just took a shit on all the nostalgia-fags. The 12 year old trunks-fags are more important. It's too bad too, I was enjoying this arc.
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>>149696153
Vegito is so cool.
Why retcon the Potara, just why.
>mfw
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>>149696166
topkek

Why do you think Zeno is stopping by? He's gonna make it like none of this even happened. Toriyama just wasted everyone's time.
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>>149695951
>purple hair
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>>149696290
Watch the episode. They retconned the fusion to have a one-hour time limit for non-Kai fusees. Using Super Saiyan Blue made the fusion burn out even quicker. Basically got the SSJ4 Gogeta deal, but with less time.
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>>149696200

you wish.
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>There are seriously people who don't understand why Goku Black's origin is a causal ontological time paradox

It's like the most basic kind too. It's the simplest kind of stable time loop that any idiot should be able to realize has no defined logical point of origin.
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>>149696250
>He thinks he is just a televident
Oh anon, if reality colapses then it will fuck you way harder than you imagine.
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>tfw still no subs
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>>149696260
This isn't tumblr you fucking faggot. If you don't like conflicting opinions, stop shitting out Super threads.
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>>149696284
>implying only this episode of super is bad
Did super even have a single good episode? I mean the highlight of the entire anime was the preview of episode 65.
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Trunks saving his own future is more narratively satisfying than getting other people to do it for him

seriously, that's one of the major flaws of the android arc. he sets all of this in motion, it's his battle to fight, but he only succeeds after he's long since left the future androids in the dust and it's ceased to mean anything

y'all are only mad because they retconned something that was stupid already (VEGITO DEFUSED BECAUSE OF SUPER BUU'S FARTS) and because you were reminded once again that power levels actually matter fuck all and always have
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>>149696310
>at least GT didn't completely shit on the canon. It could have been a logical

you are a fucking retard
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>>149696302
I honestly think they did his character justice, the potara retcon/defusing is what fucked him. I would have much rather had Vegetto holding Zamasu with the Spirit Sword and then Trunks come in with the sword spirit bomb if they really wanted him to get the kill
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>>149696333
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>>149695825
They already lost too much energy by then

If they took a breather, then they might have been able to.

But instead we got our boy Trunks doing justice for himself.
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wtf i love super now??
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I hope this arc being over doesn't mean the gay porn will stop
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>>149695873
I'll say this about GT, at least the other characters did things. Like, Gohan was still a jobber, but he still had cool scenes. And him fighting in a suit is better than an Adidas track suit.
https://youtu.be/Q4jPVtzWTwU
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>>149696343

fuck off
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>>149696270
I hated Gohan right from Saiyan saga mate.
Super doesn't matter.
And i'm the one sperging about the potara.
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>>149695739
>Vegetto didn't even use his highly leg based melee combat
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>>149696025
how are 20 buses taking 40000 people to polls?
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>>149696329
thats fucking retarded
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>>149696338
I'm fit so it shouldn't be too bad, I also have survival skills. Besides, I wouldn't mind getting killed if it was entertaining. Too much boring shit going on lately. And yes, I'm aware that's edgy as fuck. I take full responsibility of that fact.
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>>149696349
Sometimes just one episode is enough to make people mad. See: >>149696072
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>>149696379
Eat a fucking dick.
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>>149696393
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I thought it was a pretty good arc, desu.
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>>149696374
And then he jobs to Super 17, in zero animation
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>>149696369
Literally fucking yourself.
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>>149696437
I'm going to deal with you later.
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People aren't arguing about Trunks being the center of his arc. People are mad about the bullshit writing. Of course people wanna see Future Trunks do cool shit. His debut is one of the hypest things ever for like 90% of the people watching.

But Toei is just skipping from A to Z instead of going through it bit by bit.

He saw the Mafuba on a video without explanation and learned it because he got mad.

Some kids believed in him when they had his sword, so he fixed it and used a Spirit Bomb -- which he's never even fucking seen before.

He inexplicably tapped into Super Saiyan Blue ki and acquired a new bullshit form that they never bothered to explain.

Hell, they didn't even really explain why Black kept getting so strong either. It wasn't just a Zenkai.

This arc was a mess, and they gave too much to Trunks without explaining a thing. Just one scene of Goku, Vegeta and Trunks training in the ROSAT would have been enough to justify these things. They didn't even try to.
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Would you?
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>>149696423
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>>149696414
Yeah. He wrecked house the entire time, though. The animation was legitimately good, so I'm happy with that.
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WHAT THE FUCK SUBS WHEN?
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Japan's thoughts on this episode?
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>>149696415
It doesn't matter if you are fit if a bullet hit you anon.
>>149696350
Give me an estimate about the power level of Black. Not Zamas, not Zamas fused with Black. Just Black.
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>>149696440
I miss this Gohan
https://youtu.be/5yNlPL9unj0
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>>149696467
>someone copied my response from another thread

Wow.
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>>149696467

I can point to numerous instances of that happening in the same arc to the same character in DBZ

just saiyan
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>>149696335
Nobody cares, you autist. It's Dragonball.
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>>149696417
As if people even judged GT and Super objectively. Super was shit from the very beginning in every department and still superfags never fail to say how much superior super is to GT. It's only popular because it's relevant at the moment.
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Everyone crying for subs but they are right here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg5FghmV_cA
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I guess I can stop watching after next week, since F Mai will no longer be around. I will miss her.
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>>149696505
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>>149696350
It wasn't satisfying because the story surrounding it was horseshit. You don't even know what is narratively satisfying. Everything about this arc was illogical, poorly-planned out, and lazy. Don't excuse this """""""""""""""writing""""""""""""""". They had Mafuba. Could have used that. Didn't have to bring back Vegito and retcon shit just so Trunks could kill Zamasu.
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>>149696467
why the fuck are you copying my post from the other thread faggot
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>>149695680
I feel like Trunks ended up being the perfect example of why the writers shouldnt give anyone aside from Goku and Vegeta anything ever.

People will be mad regardless of who gets things done anyway.
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>Underagefags will defend this travesty because "muh self insert mary sue"
The sad thing is, Toei cares about what these shitters think
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>149696280
Gt didn't touch me emotionally at all, i thought it was retarded all around. The only emotion it made me feel was anger when they pulled piccolo from off screen to kill him for cheap fee fees, the rest i was mostly indifferent to.
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>>149696350
Power levels are what DEFINED Dragon Ball. I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels revealed in the Dragon Ball Z anime, I even remembered the power levels of minor characters, such as Cui (18,000). The fact that people still don't recognize the worth of this manga-changing concept just shows how casuals the fans are. Power levels are the most important aspect of fighting in Dragon Ball. Skill, strategy, techniques mean nothing if your power level is lower than your opponent. You're a non-entity, a nobody. It's what separated those of worth from the worthless. That's ALL THAT MATTERS. The fact that Toriyama doesn't pay respect to this measurement just shows how far he has fallen. Dragon Ball was at its best when Power Levels was the center of everything.
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>>149696518
It's a meme now.
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>>149696515
I do care fuck you
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>>149696544
But if it was Goku who got the kill, they would complain about Super being the Goku show.
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>>149696561
>I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels reetc
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DORK
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>>149696515
Sounds like someone couldn't figure it out.
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>>149695739
VEGETAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATTCH
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>>149696076
Vegito at SSB should have been strong enough to curbstomp even Beerus, so shouldn't a single punch have knocked that faggot out of the stratosphere?
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>>149696561
this is some good pasta
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So there's literally no drawback to using potara now?

kek Gogeta confirmed never showing up under any circumstance
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How do we kill Trunks?
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>>149696505
I love the fact he actually just kills him in one hit and doesnt fuck around.
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>>149696510
Do it.
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>>149696356
tell me something in GT that was worse, canon wise, than ssj2 trunks killing the most powerful villain ever with the power of love?
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WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SUBS
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thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y
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>>149696505
>This return of Freeza here was better than RoF.
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>>149695742
WHY DID IT HAVE TO FALL SHORT
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So did Black die during the fight? Is that why he turned into purple goo?
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>STILL NO SUBS
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>>149696505
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>>149696624
>tell me something in GT that was worse, canon wise

I can't do that seeing as how GT isn't canon at all
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>>149695739
Damn this animation. That's not the Toei I know.
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>>149696650
God damn it I want Super to die so badly.
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>>149696561
>I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels revealed in the Dragon Ball Z anime
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>>149696653
>First Form Frieza being on par with Mystic Gohan after four months of training
Yh no thats just no no no o no no thats fucking retarded hes literally most powerful than Buu in his First Form.
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>>149696650
Are you retarded?
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SUBS FUCKING WHERE?
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>>149696684
>>149696683
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>>149695873
Super is over 9000 times better.
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>>149696660
OWW DAMN THAT GOTTA HURT
>>149696624
OWNED
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>>149696521
>its not wrong to stop training and protecting your family
krillin missed the entire point
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>>149696624
>tell me something in GT that was worse, canon wise, than ssj2 trunks killing the most powerful villain ever with the power of love?

Base Goku > Super Saiyan 4 Goku.

You walked into that one, honey.
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>>149696505
You know, when people defend Gohan being nothing, why does does nobody mention how Gohan displayed more of a desire to be a hero than being a scholar with a normal life?

It seems like people ignore that aspect of his personality that was shown way more than him wanting to be a scholar and have a normal family.
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>>149696414
Not as retarded as Trunks using the Spirit Bomb after he got his sword back from some kids who believed in him.
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Wait wait wait...

Are you faggots actually upset that someone other than fucking Goku managed to kill the big bad?

Are you people insane?
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>>149696329
If they were gonna use the "time/power limit" BS, they really should've just used fucking Gogeta from the start.
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>>149696660
>dodging this hard
that's what i thought, get fucked
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>STILL NO FUCKING SUBS
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>>149696653
God damn it, Gohan doesn't even have muscles anymore. He looks like some skeletonfag.
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>>149696607
Show him his Gohan-san.
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>>149695873
Champa alone makes Super better. Best husbando.
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>>149696702
except that there was a fucking reason for why Base Goku defeated Super Android 17, he was spamming beams like a faggot and powered him up and Super Android 17 was defenseless while in his barrier

meanwhile, Zamasu has no logical weakness to exploit
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>>149696717
>Are you people insane?
Yes
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>>149695763
KONO DIO GA!!!
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>>149696653
At one point Toriyama wanted to finish the series with Gohan as the main character and new protector of earth. Now we have this.
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>>149696650
>>149696671
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>>149696732
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>>149696721
Still
OWNED
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>>149696732
>having that fat fuck as a husbando
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>>149696607
The most hilarious thing about this are the trunksfags trying to pull out of their asses some logical argument to defend him,
which is impossible because the writing made no sense at all.
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>>149696719
Agreed. He would have been great to see with this animation, too. Holy shit, all those sparkles.

>>149696717
No, you fucking idiot. Nobody's arguing that. It's just how it happened. Trunks got a ton of shit in a short amount of time for no reason.
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>STILL NO SUBS OVER 9000
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>>149696759
What are Pilaf and Luthor laughing about?
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>>149696759
Damn straight.
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>>149696719
sadly he is not canon
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>>149696561
>I used to impress my friends by memorizing all the power levels revealed in the Dragon Ball Z anime, I even remembered the power levels of minor characters, such as Cui (18,000)
This is so fucking pathetic. And that anon from /fit/ was pathetic when he stated he only felt worthy to masturbate to his "waifu" only when got fit.
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>>149696741
Base Goku couldn't hurt Super 17 and had to transform.

His barrier was retconned that episode to make him defenseless.

Or was 18's cleavage that powerful that it makes base, nearly dead Goku strong enough to beat Super 17?

Or, better yet:

Why didn't Goku punch Super 17 as a Super Saiyan 4?

Zamasu got an asswooping from Vegito and was melting down.
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I still can't believe how fucking shit this episode was, my god. Rewatching it with subs did not help one bit.
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>>149695873
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11639762
Why did you put the movies as an option to remove votes from Super?
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>>149696526

there's set up for all of it, anon

Trunks can create the energy sword because he literally watched Black do it the entire arc. Super has also made a big deal about people sharing and channeling the energy of others since the BoG arc. The strength that comes from combining one's powers has been reiterated again and again, and this is the natural conclusion.

I don't fucking care what arbitrary training time you think exists to justify this. Not when this franchise's most significant, memorable technique was picked up in an instant by its preteen main character in five seconds. This is the foundation of which Dragon Ball is built, but no, you need to have characters fucking grind their EXP or some bullshit to pull off things spontaneously in newer media?

Fuck off. The only conclusion for Zamasu that could have meant ANYTHING was to be undone by his own hubris, and to have the final blow be struck by the powers of the lives he tried to destroy. Things like themes, dramatic irony, those things are more important than "X character trained for Y amount of time and now they can do Z"

especially since that sort of shit has been all over the map from day 1
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>>149695873
The style and flow of GT felt more DBZ-like, Super has too many moments that feel rushed.
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>>149696497
>It doesn't matter if you are fit if a bullet hit you anon.
Then I'll just make sure to avoid either side and give up all my valuable non-tool possessions right away so no one has any reason to go after me. I can make food from scratch, and I know how to start a fire. Bring a pot and some tools, and I'd be good to go. Unless it gets so bad that people are eating each other, and by that point I'd probably just off myself to save trouble and pain.
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This is "The Little Engine that Could" tier of infantile writing.

>How does Trunks defeat the most powerful being in the entirety of Dragon Ball, just behind Zeno, and on top of it, that's immortal?

>Some kids and hobos believed on him! See? He wins now LOL
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>>149696757
Bring Champa back.
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>>149696779

>Trunks got a ton of shit in a short amount of time for no reason

What are you even talking about you fucking sperg?
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>>149696786
I just finished watching the sub version from HS, how can you be so blind?
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>>149696719
>>149696791
>>149696779
What did Gogeta do for the remaining 29 minutes?
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>>149696472
I will probably be fapping to this later.
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>>149695873
This poll is fucking retarded. Super+Movies still wins over GT by far.
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Someone defend this. There's no way you can defend just copypasting 2 movie fights and a GT fight into one episode
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>>149696818
>I didn't watch the episode: the post
Bitch harder. Your salt is delicious.
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>>149696295
How so?
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>>149696717
no one's mad (except vegetafags, but they stay mad) that trunks got the kill. It's the way he got it.
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>>149696794
>why didn't Goku punch Super 17
he was acting retarded

and even a retconned weakness is better than no weakness at all and the big baddest of all being defeated by the fucking power of friendship
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its not done yet
the real Zamasu didn't got killed
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>>149696188
DONT FUCKING REMIND ME. DEIDARA WON FAIR AND SQUARE.
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>>149696741

>Zamasu has no logical weakness to exploit

>becoming more and more deranged/stupid by the minute
>his ego is leading to him making dangerous mistakes
>his body is warping and twisting and literally MELTING
>Vegito already beat the shit out of him

there's tons of shit to exploit
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>>149696789
Why is Vados so no nonsense compared to Whis?
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>>149696600
this episode really confuses me, I don't even know who is better goku kaio ken, fused zamas or vegetto..
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>STILL NO SUBS TO REACH PERFECT FORM
H-HOLD ME, LADS
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>>149696809
>defending "IT'S LIKE POETRY, IT RHYMES" bullshit plot devices

you're a retarded fuck
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>Zamasu has no logical weakness to exploit
Trunks straight up cut his dick in half.
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>>149696860
>and even a retconned weakness is better than no weakness at all and the big baddest of all being defeated by the fucking power of friendship
Good job not watching the episode, ningen. He was getting his ass beaten by Vegito, and his healing factor failed.
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the art and animation was really good compared to standard episodes.

if there's one thing that bugged me this entire arc it's that Trunks never asked to be trained by Whis or achieved God/Blue form. him going Blue and beating Black Rose one on one would've been much better.
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>>149696816

>Super has too many moments that feel rushed

Yes let's go back to DBZ where there's 100 episodes of filler.

I actually love filler.
>>
IT'S NOT FAIR
HE WON AGAINST VEGETTO
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anyone saying Vegetto didn't weaken Zamasu is just playing dumb or didn't watch the episode

>"Zamasu, he's not healing but falling apart?"

This is said during the Vegetto fight right when he transforms into the buff form.
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>>149696719
This pretending like it depended on the character chosen and not the fucking Trunkscuck writing is just idiotic

If it was the Gogeta, the same shit would have happened, and people would have gloated over how much better Vegito is and how they just ripped off the GT finale (they did anyway)

Either way the writers are fucking scum.
I couldn't even enjoy Vegetto beating up Zamasu (not as dominant as he should have been) because Zamasu was so fucking ugly and cringeworthy
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I would have preferred fucking Gogeta instead of this fucking potara retcon, fucking hell
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>>149696878
She's a bitch, she did lousy stadium seats and then tried to blame her own bad design on Champa.
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>>149696868
that's not a fucking weakness when Vegito couldn't even finish the job, yet Trunks somehow can kill him

holy shit, just shut the fuck up Trunksfag
>>
What kind of human is browsing /a/? Watching moeshit and DB Super. Is there more shit taste known to man?
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>>149696897

>I can't think of a way to say you're wrong so I'm gonna shout a meme at you
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>>149696598
Bragging about nothing. He got a time ring, got hakai'd in the past past before he could get the time ring, but couldn't be destroyed because of the time ring he shouldn't have been able to get

You fedoralords really think you're smarter than everyone because you use words like ontology. Might as well be Zamasu
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>>149696911

>I couldn't even enjoy Vegetto beating up Zamasu (not as dominant as he should have been)

Oh my God it's true. People can't handle Vegetto getting hurt. It really is like watching your dad get beaten up.
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>>149696832
Become Vegeta and Goku again.

It would be Fuse to Gogeta
Turn Blue
Fusion ends because all the power was used up.
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>>149696682
Frieza surpassing Super Cyan after four months of training on his own while Goku and Vegeta were training with God of Destruction is not, though?
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>>149696823
>Below SSJ3 Goku in a spar while trying his hardest
>Gained SSJ2+God Ki out of nowhere 'cause he got mad
>Trunks kept up with Goku Black and Zamasu during the time Goku and Vegeta were gone
>Learned the Mafuba that took Goku forever to learn in one go after watching a video of Piccolo using it
>Trunks got mad again and used the fucking SPIRIT BOMB with a broken sword that he fixed with his Ki

How can you people not fucking see how dumb this shit is? >>149696818 is right.

Nobody gives a fuck about Trunks winning. People wanted that. It's how they did it.
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>>149696900
why did the healing factor fail? because HE WAS HIT TOO HARD LOL?

I fucking swear, you Super and Trunksfags are getting increasingly stupid by the day

The only reason someone defends Super at this point it's because "M-MUH CANON"
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>>149696365
so If you are resting while fused when the time runs out, you fuse back immediatly?
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>>149696964
>but couldn't be destroyed because of the time ring he shouldn't have been able to get

Don't make shit up, and that has absolutely nothing at all to do with the paradox anyway.
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Genki sword > immortality, then
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>>149696834
I need porn of goo Zamasu
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>>149696935

Vegito couldn't finish the job because the TIME RAN OUT

WAH WAH MAH POWER LEVELS WAH WAH WHY CAN'T TOEI AND TORIYAMA DO MATH WITH THEIR MADE UP NUMBERS
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>>149696600
I don't think the writers understood how powerful Vegito at SSB would be.
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Why the fuck they choose Vegitto over Gogeta?

Imagine the butthurt people
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con't >>149696863
they found out the real Zamasu has no physical body, and is all over the planet
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>>149696907
And later Zamasu regenerate himself when Trunks attack him with the Sword. No logic.
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>>149696849
T-toyotaro will fix everything in the manga... Right? Right?
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>>149696970
>Oh my God it's true. People can't handle Vegetto getting hurt. It really is like watching your dad get beaten up.
Jesus, you people get more pathetic by the post.
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>>149696832
Probably the same deal as with Vegetto in your pic.
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>>149696976
No thats the height of bullshit. He also never surpassed Super Cyan because Super Cyan was kicking his ass.
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>>149696863
I hope they try to convince him to not be evil
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>>149696878
Needs good dicking.
>>
>Kaioken
>YOSHAAAAAAAA
best parts of the episode
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>>149696979
>>Gained SSJ2+God Ki out of nowhere 'cause he got mad

why not

that's how super saiyan and super saiyan 2 came into existence
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>>149696982
>why did the healing factor fail? because HE WAS HIT TOO HARD LOL?
Because he fused with someone who wasn't immortal. Good job, dumb ningenposter.
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So we as a whole are mad about Vegitto being a fucking joke that lasts 30 seconds right?

I'm actually fucking mad.
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>>149697008
>Imagine the butthurt people
Like you?
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>>149696907
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CANCEL REGENERATION BY HITTING SOMEONE TOO HARD

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN MAKE THAT JUMP IN LOGIC

>how do you counter an immortal being that regenerates? JUST HIT HIM HARDER! LOL
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who's ready for the SUPER POTARAS in a few arcs that let Vegito stay Vegito indefinitely
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fuck the ending this arc. Bullshit bio Broly looking Zamasu, Vegetto being wasted (I bet they'll say they can never use Potara again after this), dumb ass trunks spirit bomb shit.
Well at least the music was good this episode
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>Zamasu almost equal to vegetto
At least let Vegetto trash Zamasu if you will asspull the defusion anyway.
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>>149697014
that wasn't the genki dama blade yet, but when Trunks did stab him with the genki dama blade, his wound wasn't regenerating.
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>>149696979

Wow, you are seriously watching the wrong series if this is bothering you that much.

99% of the power ups in this series are from '<name> gets mad'. Holy fuck.
>>
Let's just have Zeno vs Trunks in the tournament, Trunks will obviously win because FUCK THE WRITING.
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>Again, many episodes later, some high quality animation happens
I need to know who is responsible for these short segments of high quality animation, I love them but they are oddly out of place
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>>149697089
He beat the shit out of him though
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>>149696982
Immortal + Not Immortal = Not Really Immortal
It's not rocket science
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>>149696900
>He was getting his ass beaten by Vegito
by about 10 seconds
>and his healing factor failed.
It was starting to. Even if he had no healing at all, how the fuck does trunks as ssj2, and mostly no training since dabura who he would have lost to alone, beat him with a 100 person spirit sword of friendship when goku couldn't kill fucking freeze with a couple world's worth.
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I need more zamasu reaction images
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>>149697031
He actually has surpassed Super Cyan. That was like his ultimate mistake, as soon as he achieved this form he just flew immediately to exact revenge, but wasn't fully adapted to it yet so he was burning out fast.
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>>149697099
Episode 66

Animation Supervisors
Karasawa Yuichi
Shimanuki Masahiro

Assistant Supervisor
Tate Naoki

Key Animators
Shida Naotoshi Kusama Hideoki Otsuka Ken Higashide Futoshi Manabe Shuuichiro Inaba Jin Karasawa Yuichi Shimanuki Masahiro Mura Shuntaro Miuma Kenji Kitano Yukihiro Takamura Kaoru Tsuji Miyako Ishikawa Osamu

2nd Key Animators
Sato Tomoko A-Line

Chief Animation Supervisor
Tsuji Miyako
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>>149697068
It's Dragon Ball anon. You can brute force a solution into everything.
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>>149697068

they fucking say why the regeneration failed: it's because Black wasn't immortal and Zamasu's contradictory state of mind are making his form mutate and twist into something disgusting
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>>149696607
Good luck trying to make sense of this, powerlevelfag.
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Reminder that Trunks can

>use Goku's Spirit Bomb
>use Roshi's Mafuba
>use Gohan's rage boosts
>use Broly's Legendary SSJ
>use Black's ki blade

(I'd mention Vegeta's galick gun but let's be honest it fucking sucks)

>Trunkscucks will defend this
>Trunkscucks would defend if he learned the Kaioken tomorrow and beat up Beerus with it
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>>149697061
That doesn't even make fucking sense

Stars aligned to make Trunks win against Zamasu
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How do you feel about them retaining his personality?! I'm so glad
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>>149697122
So thank you for confirming you don't watch the series. Good job.

He trained with Vegeta.

Goku and Vegeta gave him their strength, they weren't dead.
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>>149697125
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>>149697147
I hate how he no longer uses his own moveset and only uses Gohan's and Vegeta's
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>>149697089
>feels and frogposting
Kill yourself.
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>>149697125
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Was this preview the height of DB Super enjoyment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRlmiP0udO4
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>>149697147
>tfw not even Gohan(future) can use Gohan's rage boost
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>>149697150
>That doesn't even make fucking sense
They literally explained it. And you're not even trying anymore. Good job, dumb ningenposter.
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>>149697094
vegetto deserved to win, trunks don't deserve that much power, fuck writers
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>>149697059
Gohan had rage issues from the start and is actually an outlier that, to this day, is still lauded for his potential. That's unique to him. SSJ2 came about from Gohan finally getting proper training, a lot of which we got to see. It's totally different. Gohan's ass, but his arc made sense.

>>149697092
Every example that isn't Gohan was just impotent rage that amounted to nothing.
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>all this time, the reason why Vegetto de-fused when he was inside Buu was because of a time limit they didn't know about
As much as I hate retcons, this seems like a much better explanation than "lol magical stomach acid"
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Daily reminder that Bruce falcauner score is qpiece of shit for edgy kids.
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>>149697017
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>>149697150
Please leave the thread, just your replies are making this thread worse than shit
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>>149696991
How am I making shit up? Black literally said in the episode that his time ring gives him immunity to Beerus killing his past self.
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>>149697188
Kill yourself twice you easily triggered tumblr cunt.
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>>149697064
So is 2ch
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So, Kamis of Dragon Ball date sim when?
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The only way they can redeem this arc is if Zeno says he was watching the entire time and lent Trunks the power he needed.
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>>149697206
>THEY EXPLAINED HOW SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES SENSE!

Even if he was falling apart there's no fucking reason for Trunks to beat him up that fucking easily
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>>149697150

Gowasu literally fucking explained why this was happening. When you fuse with someone, you take on aspects of your fusion partner. A mortal fusing with an immortal should not also be immortal.

it's just like Elder Kai. The fusion was less than the sum of its parts.
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>>149697216
Seriously, it's such a more sensible explanation than "lol poo gas"
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>>149697147
>>use Broly's Legendary SSJ
What? You confusing his ki color and his Super Trunks state is when his eyes go blank, he did that half and half, he didnt achieve legendary saiyan, he probably surpassed Broly all together just on his rage/blue mode alone.
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>>149697125
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>>149697084
>I bet they'll say they can never use Potara again after this
I thought the opposite, given that potara aint permanent anymore it gives them a perfect excuse to shove vegito here and there for dat dere fan service ratings
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>>149697125
I miss him
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>>149697216
Yeah it is, but i would have preferred the magical stomach acid goddamnit
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>>149697234
No he didn't, and like I said that's still totally irrelevant to the paradox of his origin anyway.
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>>149697247
Fuck off Trunkscuck I don't give a shit what his shitty plot armor mary sue nigger shit mode is called or how it functions, it's a shitty unoriginal unexplained asspull mode that gives a ridiculous powerup for no reason
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>>149697217
The score itself isn't the problem. The problem is that the american dub has the worst fuckjob of a sound edit I have ever heard. Switching tracks every 3 seconds and never shutting the fuck up at all.
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Is trunk a sjw?
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>Trunksfags defending Fairy Tail tier writing
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>>149695873
I liked how early GT reminded me of Dragon Ball, and I've always liked Dragon ball more than DBZ.
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>>149697241
Ningenposter, you keep getting more and more upset. If he's on the ass-end of an asskicing via Vegito, and Trunks kills him with Goku and Vegeta donating their Ki, what doesn't make sense?
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>>149697128
Do you remember which episode was the other one with amazing animation though?
I think it was one of the first ones with rose
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SAVE US ZENO
WIPE THIS SHITTY EPISODE OUT OF EXISTENCE
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>>149696911
Same deal yes, but using Gogeta at least would've prevented that stupid "Oh you can actually use Potara again! just now it will have the same Metamorian-dance time limit that will grow even shorter if you become too powerful lol" retcon.
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>>149697251
...i could be ok with this
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>>149697213

Except Vegeta and Goku didn't also have that power and became super saiyan for the first time because they got super pissed

Gohan's rage boosts aren't unique, stupid. It's a shounen fighting staple.
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>>149696296

>animation was good

I actually haven't watched super except for a few clips. But what strikes me every time I watch a clip is that the show looks awful. Like it's being outsources to Korea and with a very low budget.

So this is some of the better animated scenes. Wow. Just wow.
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>>149697284
he has blue sanfran hair so yeah
he'd probably be protesting right now if he was real
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>>149697298
Too bad Trunks is gonna beat up Zeno next episode by using the Kaioken that he conveniently learned :^)
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>>149697171
>He trained with Vegeta
thank you for confirming you don't understand english
>MOSTLY no training
and that's with gifting you the idea that he actually trained with vegeta in the half day he had, which was only assumed by trunksfags.
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>>149697295
now explain how Trunks learned the Genkidama out of fucking nowhere, Trunkscuck
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Vegito vs Superman fags BTFO
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>>149697321
Trained enough to learn Final Flash, Galick Gun, etc.
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TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

TRUNKSKEKS MUST DIE
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What went wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWIIrsQtA-A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzP8BK-xw3g
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>>149697300

so?

That actually fits better because it comes up with a better explanation for why it was undone than "the air in Super Buu is bad"

also, that's a plot hole on its own, because Super Buu is a fusion himself. If that were something that applied he'd cause himself to not exist.
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>>149695680
It finally happened. It FINALLY happened. Thank god. For the first time since Cell, somebody besides Goku saved the day. This is so fucking beautiful. This is the only moment of Super I've found myself genuinely enjoying myself. They finally fucking did it. It was worth sitting through so many hours of shit.
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At least GT showed Gogeta toying with his opponent before his time suddenly ran out.
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>>149697334
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>>149696629
my nigga
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huh? what just happened? how did he fix his sword? how did he gather the spirit energy automatically? why did they retcon the potaras? huh?
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>>149697307
Gohan rage boosts had a setup of YEARS

Vegeta got angry but perfected his super saiyan form with training, and even then got his shit rekt by Android 18, unlike Mary Trunks that can magically defeat Zamasu, learn Mafuba and Genkidama in a matter of seconds and get a Super Saiyan Blue form despite not participating in any ritual
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>>149697327
Not the anon you talking to but Trunks used the peoples hope in him and accidentally did Genkidama energy boost.
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How to fix the ending:
>Retconning potara fusion was right and necessary for the plot. So I would leave that.
>Make Vegito vs. Zamasu fight last longer, at least until half of episode 67.
>Make a character say that an hour have passed so the defusion makes sense.
>Goku and Vegeta try to face Zamasu but they lose.
>After fighting Vegito and Goku and Vegeta, Zamasu is noticeable tired.
>Trunks receives the broken sword and realizes he is the only hope to defeat Zamasu
>Inspared by everyone Trunks becomes SSB and go to fight a tired Zamasu
>Trunks puts a fight but even then Trunks seems about to lose
>Suddendly they notice a light in the sky
>Goku was making spirit bomb while Trunks was fighting
>Everyone gives his enegy to the spirit bomb
>Goku gives the spirit bomb to Trunks
>Trunks defeat Zamasu.
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>>149697344
So he has seen two videos, nice
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>>149697300
It would even explain why his stupid clothing didn't change since the fusion dance always produces the same uniform, instead of Toei being lazy hacks that couldn't even redesign Vegetto with Goku and Vegeta's new suits in mind.
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>>149697327
>Trunkscuck
Ningenposter, you mistake me for someone else.
He didn't. Plain and simple. The Earthlings didn't matter, Goku and Vegeta were the ones who lent the most Ki to him. More than enough to land the killing blow.
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>Being angry because Trunks killed the big bad in HIS own arc where HE was the protagonist
>Not seeing from a mile ago that Vegetto was going to fizzle out

New to Dragon Ball?
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>trunksfag celebrating when zeno will actually fix everything
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>>149695680
You know what? I'm not mad about how bullshit this episode was anymore, I remembered I don't watch fucking Dragon Ball Z of all things for quality plot or characters, just nostalgia and powerlevels.
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>>149697240
That would be even worse and would undermine everything every character in the series ever did. kys for suggesting that.
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I just want to remind everyone that we lost THIS glorious motherfucker as the final boss

In exchange for an ugly, cringeworthy, /r9k/ pepe yami marik ripoff who did nothing but screech autistically and job to literally EVERYBODY but Vegeta (King of Jobbers)
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>>149697295
>on the ass-end of an asskicing
He was completely fine when trunks started fighting him. He showed no sign that he was weakened. He pummeled vegeta and goku as soon as they defused and had trunks on the floor. But a love powerboost erased him from existance, after he had just brushed off a final kamehameha from vegetto.
yea, go fuck yourself
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>>149697125
I miss Zamasu and Zamasu
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>>149697369
Vegetto vs Super Buu

>/smug/
>making jokes
>Shown the entire time having an advantage over the opponent

Vegetto vs Zamasu

>/smug/
>making jokes
>Shown almost the entire time having an advantage over the opponent

>inb4 zamasu knocked him down

my headcanon says that he went down on purpose to catch him off guard with the spirit sword
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>>149697395
So why is okay when it's Goku who pulls shit out of his ass but everybody complains when Trunks does it?
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>>149697415
You joke, but Toriyama planned this all along

>Age 794
>Mr. Satan's granddaughter Pan becomes a martial arts instructor: with customer claims that Mr. Satan's Telecommunicated Satan-style Martial Arts Course is worthless rapidly spreading, disgruntled customers flood Satan House, prompting Pan to subdue them. The event becomes a big scandal and the Telecommunicated Satan-style Martial Arts Course is then rebranded as the Pan Fighting Network, with Pan as the instructor.
>Afterwards, Pan asks Bulma to help her develop a system for people to battle each other across long distances so that she could create a Telecommunicated Martial Arts Dojo. From this point on, the sports-like fighting course became very popular, especially among young people.
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>>149697375
>Monaka literally saved u7 Earth last arc from being Champa's cock slave
>first time since Cell
Stop being a faggot anon.
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>>149697404

>Goku gives the spirit bomb to Trunks
>Replacing a situation where Trunks actually has to rise to the occasion with "Nah, I'll let someone else actually have this one" ending
>completely drain the situation of any tension
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>>149695792
>you will never be an autistic NEET who gets so fucking mad over a sparring match he decides to kill everybody
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>>149697452
be content that he wasn't ruined and your memory of him will remain preserved
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>>149697463
i'm more questioning than complaning. i honestly don't understand how anything with trunks just happened.
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>>149697453
>He showed no sign that he was weakened

>"Zamasu, he's not healing but falling apart?

said when he goes into his buff form
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>>149697463
Because hes the main character.
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>>149697453
>He was completely fine when trunks started fighting him. He showed no sign that he was weakened.
>Literally melting
Salt. This salt is delicious.
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>>149695938
The Kai's from universe 10's ear rings must have different criteria for fusion. The elder Kia from universe 7, Goku's, universe was surprised by the time limit since they didn't have one on their ear rings from universe 7.
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Wait a fucking goddamn second

Wasn't it fucking supposed that you couldn't create a Genkidama while tainted by strong emotions (rage, sadness) and that you needed clarity of mind (therefore Goku creating Genkidama on base form and then going SS2 to push it towards Buu)

SO NOT ONLY THEY RETCONNED VEGITTO POTARA FUSION, THEY ALSO RETCONNED THE GENKIDAMA HOLY SHIT
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>>149696361
this makes me uncomfortable
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>suddenly potaras are not permanent

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Everyones talking about how Trunkscuck shouldn't have been able to beat him, but let's not forget Goku overpowered the guy with a Kamehameha

Fucking Super is so inexcusable with their inconsistency it's unbelievable
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>>149697476
Goku is supossed to be beaten up by Zamasu, he would only be able to rise his arm to make the spirit bomb.
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>>149697476
>tension when you have lol Beerus, lol Whis and lol Zeno hanging around
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>>149697395
>how did he fix his sword?
He literally fought a god that used it against him several times, he just copied it, like everyone knowing how to do the Kamehameha
>how did he gather the spirit energy?
He didn't, people just believed too much in him (pretty gay desu) so a spirit bomb aimed at him appeared, also goku and vegeta gave him their remaining energy to top it off.
>why did they retcon the potaras?
Fusion+SSBSS consumes too much energy that it drained the potaras effect faster
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>>149697196
Preview was like your waifu confessing to you.
Actual episode was her getting raped right in front of you.
End of episode was you getting a boner from her cumming while getting fucked by another man.
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Reminder this is all Toei's fault
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I'm just so disappointed that we will never see Vegitto ever again.

I was so fucking stupid hype that he was going to come back, only to see him really do jack shit for half an episode and then unfuse.

I'm so disappointed. Vegitto was my fucking favorite god damn thing about Z, and they ruined it.
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>>149697510
the new retcon for the earrings is cannon now, sorry vegettocuck
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>>149697510
Steve, he's using Shin potara's, Universe 7 ones, you know?
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>get arguably the best and most competent villain in the franchise, with motivations that aren't just ''muh power'' with him also using some really cool moves
>we literally see this villain grow into his idealistic madness until he literally goes insane
>said villain also breaks the conventional DB archetype of ''villain is strongest until Goku ones up him'' because he pretty much constantly cheated his way through
>we get to see Future Trunks shine
>we get someone else other than Goku finishing off the villain
>''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BUT MUH VEGITO MUH RETCON''

While it is a blatant retcon, what you retards don't realize is that the reason they did it is likely because they plan to bring back Vegito again in the future. The only thing that was keeping this possibility away was the permanent status.
They did it literally for you nostalgiafags, so that your ebin fusion can appear as many times as you wish for it.

I fucking hate this fanbase, you'll literally find a reason to bitch at everything. Truth is this saga has been excellent and I'm looking forward to the next one.
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>>149697344
so you're arguing that half a day training with vegetta, if it even happened, was enough to overpower the fusion of zamasu and black goku, who had tag-fucked ssg goku and vegetta? The power of 100 humans and 2 saiyans who could barely move at that point was enough to tip the scales huh?
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Trunks is a god
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>>149697512

well for one, they never called it the Genkidama

Two, the humans and Trunks were linked by shared wills

It's not the Genkidama, it's ki sharing we've seen throughout the series done on a massive scale that's *similar* to the Genkidama
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>>149697467
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>149697570
>this saga has been excellent

How can you have taste this bad?
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>>149696914
They essentially rused is by using Vegito as a Hypeman. Once he came and blew his load then Trunks, the main act all along comes for the finale. Really they could have removed everything involving Vegito have Trunks come in with the Genkidama sword and achieved the same result with less retcon, disappointment, and rusing.

I like Trunk I would have been fine with him doing that to kill Zamasu. You didn't need to debase Daddy Vegito like that Too. He is literally ssj4 Gogeta now only blue
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>>149697564
You should be sorry for yourself, now Gogeta will never exist.
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>>149697562
Vegetto was complete fanservice, he did a final kamehameha which was from fucking video games. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't show up in the manga at all
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>>149697562
Why wouldn't he show up again? They retconned it so there's an hour limit on it, and they've still got the earrings. They've set it up so they can reuse him more often now.
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>>149697538

characters who have reasons for not getting involved directly
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>>149697397
How can anyone write this down with a straight face?
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>>149695680

did half the budget go into this shot?
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>>149697518
>suddenly
Literally Buu, with an even more shitty retcon
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>>149697570
>liking the new episode
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>>149696516
>As if people even judged GT and Super objectively.
You're right. GT still has people giving it free nostalgia votes instead of treating it objectively like Super.
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>>149697570
>get arguably the best and most competent villain in the franchise,
HAHAHAHAHAHA
No, Zamasu a shit.

>you'll literally find a reason to bitch at everything

>defending Fairy Tail tier writing
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>>149697617
Pottery
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Just finished. That was the lamest fucking episode ever. I can't even. That was a horrible way to end an arc.

We can now officially rank each villain arc and Zamasu is behind Frieza, Cell and even Buu.
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>>149697274
Here's a screenshot you mong. He says it in episode 61.

If you're talking about the fact that Zamasu had to meet Goku to steal his body and become Black, but only met him because Black went to the past and fought Goku, that's obvious too. You're not smarter than anyone else for labeling it a causal ontological loop.
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>>149697602
They should have just had Zamasu kill the fusion directly somehow.
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>>149697604
Gogeta could exist but is not true cannon either
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>>149697456
That's exactly what happened. You can see him moving around. He just baited him.

>>149697369
Incompetent writers. They didn't know how to give Trunks the win while using Vegetto.
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>>149697440
Kys for defending this shitty arc.
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>>149697602
>rusing

oh my god you poor pathetic creature

a red herring is not a fucking personal affront
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>>149697629
GT is far worse than Super, objectively speaking. It had shit like Space Lemurs.
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what did he mean by this?
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>>149697562
Honestly, Vegetto himself got a pretty good showing even though it came with all the usual Super baggage like bad animation and weak-looking attacks.

I'm just fucking mad about the bullshit way they snubbed him out of the fight, what an eyecancer Zamasu was to look at, and the bullshit Trunkscuck victory
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Where did we go wrong, bros?
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>>149697641
He didnt say that that was because of the time ring. Its because of the explanation Trunks gave.
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>>149697570
>defending this garbage
>defending Zamasu autistic screaming and crying this episode
>defending copypasta 2 movie fights and a gt fight
how does it feel being a cuck that will eat anything
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>zamasu slowy losing it over the episode

great voice work there
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vegetto will get his filler arc, they said
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>>149696746
How is it that this is still the best parody of dbz?
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Old question

Which one is stronger, Vegitto or Gogeta?
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>>149697661
Bardock's seed is a curse.
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>>149697538
>Beerus ded
>Whis unemployed
>Zeno doesn't give a fuck
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>>149697311
>there will probably be figuarts of Zamasu, Black with Rose head, and Fusion Zamasu
>tfw Black and Rose won't be separate figures for more expressions and accessories
>tfw no Broly sized monster Zamasu figure
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>tfw no more Zamasu in a week

I'll miss this motherfucker, I loved his character development. I loved how he finally completely broke down this episode and literally started crying.
This is what happens when you get too extreme with your ideals lads, Zamasu is pretty much any dictator ever.
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>>149697616
Did you watch the episode?
Trunks was all about fighting for everyone and people wanted to lend power to him starting with the little girl. Thats why they showed the kids give their energy first
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>>149697668
FUCKING

NINGEN

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>149697668
I have two personalities. Nicest guy you'll ever me and twisted fucking psychopath
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>>149697668
the hair implants were tainted
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>>149697629
More like people already hated decades on GT even before Super arrived and there is a clear hate bandwagon that isn't there for Super.
>>149697660
Super had Vegetto in a fucking preview and 6 saiyans inclusive a fetus in a womb holding hands to activate the acient god power.
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>>149697639
>arc ending is what
>so the villan is what too
That's not how it works.
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>>149696741
>and Super Android 17 was defenseless
So he just magically lost all his power and lost to a completely worn out Goku?
That's pretty retarded.
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>>149697683
Trunks.
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>>149697213
>That's unique to him

no it isn't. all half bloods are like that
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>fusion between 2 supreme kais only last one hour
Zamasu was not a supreme kai, he stole the potara. If that works for him, then it works for goku and vegeta too.
And if he's somehow a supreme kai, then black is not one, therefore his fusion should only last one hour or less since he has used a ton of power. This bullcrap is super inconsistent. Say that Zeno disabled their fusion or something and don't came up with stupid plotholes.
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Honestly, Bardock would be happy as fuck seeing how powerful his seed is, minus Raditz.
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>>149697492
>>149697500
he wasn't melting, that was his form. His healing was even shown to be intact still, trunks had just slashed him. Again, he even had him pinned down until power of love boost. Stay delusional though.
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>>149697669
Watch the fucking episode before you act like you know what you're talking about.
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>>149697668
Toei's writing staff
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>>149697639
>>149697714
especially because it's not even over yet
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How do you manage to fuck up an episode with Vegito coming back this much? People have been waiting for this moment since they heard about super happening. The nigga doesn't even make it through the end of the episode fused.
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You faggots will literally never be happy with anything. This episode had top tier animation, and trunks killing zamasu makes sense based on the fact that he had just taken a motherfuckin final kamehameha to the face.

Stop being so mad at a anime for teenagers and just enjoy the action. Jesus.
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>>149697714
bad* bad*
I need to sleep.
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This saga is Cell saga but better
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Trunks is literally a fanfiction tier character at this point

>Hair color that nobody else but his mom has
>Higher potential than the pure saiyans
>Becomes super saiyan blue in the span of a week
>Learns the mafuba in MINUTES
>Learns to absorb the energy of a Genkidama in SECONDS
>Defeats the biggest bad of the show, literally the most powerful being in all the universes after Zeno with a sword of love and friendship

I wouldn't be surprised that he joins the multiversal tournament and learns the Kaioken, the Makankosappo and everyone else techniques to win at this point
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Did anyone else think the Zamasu they showed in this latest episode was the most interesting version of him?
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>People discussing power levels / asspulls / consistency
>Dragon Ball
You guys never learn
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>>149697736
He meant that was the start.
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>dbz always says half bloods have most potential
>half blood shows that he indeed has a shit ton of potential
>people bitch
>>
Ah huh, you know what it is
Every spliff I roll, I roll it big
Ah huh, screaming that's skunk
When I roll up the blunt, that's skunk
See me in your town with the pounds of the haze
Green and Purple (Repeat 4x's)
If you smoke this shit you'll be high for days
Green and Purple (Repeat 4x's)
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>>149697748
>you should enjoy shit just because it's given to you
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>>149697740
How is it not over? Zeno arrives, some lame candy shit happens, now we're off to the universe tournament.

arc is finished.
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>>149697756
>literally the most powerful being in all the universes after Zeno
Wrong.
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>>149697754
more like buu saga but worse
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>>149697671

the fact that Zamasu was rendered pathetic and whining was the fucking POINT. Here was this character with such great potential, reduced to a cloying, shrieking monstrosity who can't accept his own imperfection.

do you people have any idea how to do character writing? Is this why Broly is popular? You just want a powerful meat puppet who does nothing besides look cool?

It's the same reason why characters like Frieza had undignified deaths. They ultimately caused their own ruin, and died the self obsessed wretches they truly were.
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>>149697668
Zamasu's progression into an autistic raging monster yelling about ningens was easily the best part of this arc.
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>>149697241
>>THEY EXPLAINED HOW SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE MAKES SENSE!
I hope you're not the guy that defends Toyble.
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>>149697757
I thought the voice acting for Zamasu losing his shit was great.
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>>149697730
Nice bait
Zamasu/Black became Supreme Kai when he killed Gowasu in the other timeline, then Black gave him the potaras. Fusion didnt last with Vegetto because they arent Supreme Kais and are Saiyan ningens
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>>149696335

Thats what the time ring prevents.

Goku visits Zamasu
Fights Zamasu
Zamasu gets pissed
Speeds up the inevitable ego trip
Zamasu kills teaman
Steals time ring
Changes bodies with Goku
Kills Goku
Goes to the FUTURE Zamasu
Zamasu about to kill Gowasu
Black does it
Zamasu then joins forces and gets immortality from Super Balls
Arc happens
Beerus intervenes by destroying Zamasu
This wipes out the ENTIRE timeline leading upto Black
Black is immune due to time ring
Future Zamasu is immune either due to being Trunk's reality or immortality

Theres no causality loop. Its straight forward. Black simply exists due to the time ring that sits outside time anyway. Future Zamasu just sits outside Beerus's sphere of influence and is immune to Hakai affecting him. Or just immortality.
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Did anyone else think Trunks was going to go Super Sayian Green?
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>>149697730
except they clearly state in episode 61 how both Zamasus became kaioshins once they got the green potara

THEY FUCKING SPELL IT OUT TO YOU
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>>149697570
I agree with you anon, this saga has been a ride, from cucking gohan fags, to getting zamasu gay porn to gowasus memes. I didn't like the trunks mary sue thing a lot but I'm not mad about it.
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>mfw I've hate Trunks since the DBZ days for being a tacked on pointless piece of shit that everybody jizzes over for no reason
>mfw I've hated every single second of screentime he got in Super
>mfw finally everyone else hates him as much as I do
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>>149697521
"I don't need a god like you"

Yeah, Trunks was chanelling Seiya hard during his genjidamastab.
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>>149697778
did zamasu fail because piccolo failed to give him his daily dose?
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>>149697693
>seriously defending the fucking power of love as a plot device
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>>149697756
>literally the most powerful being in all the universes after Zeno
are you serious? both whis and beerus would've bodied that nigga, and those two aren't even the strongest.
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>>149697209
Not him but you do realized that power is shared, right?
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>>149697825
All it took was the sacrifice of Vegetto...
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Hey, at least the arc boss was beaten by someone other than Goku for a change.
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>>149697812
This shit would be retarded as fuck and still a million times better than what we got.
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>>149697668
He fused, making Black be gone.
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>>149697837
>vegettocuck made our boy Trunks won
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>>149697815
Am I a supreme Kai too, Anon-kun?
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Holy fucking shit that genki sword was the hypest shit ever

How are they ever going to top that shit now, i mean it wan't as cool as ssj3 goku vs buu but holy shit trunks actually did it that absolute madman
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>>149697851
I'd take Goku getting the finishing kill for every single villain now and forever over these mary sue bullshit
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>>149697327
It wasn't a genki dama

It was the Mazenko to the Kamehameha
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why do you even care, even if trunks is mary sue his arc seems to end after this ep and we'll never see him and his universe again
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>>149697825
I love how buttmad people are.

Trunks is my boy and fuck all you Vegito fags
>>
Can't wait for the AMVs.
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>>149697756
>>Higher potential than the pure saiyans
This is from the early DBZ part, humans and saiyans breeding make a stronger species.
>>Learn the mafuba in MINUTES
He had a video.
The spirit bomb was bullshit though and it conflicts with the idea that you can't make one while being on super saiyan mode and he needs to ask for the energy. You could say this is his own version of the spirit bomb that he did by accident but it's still bullshit.
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>god music plays
>trunks doesn't fucking ascend

Also, how did Trunk's feel ssj vegito's power?
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>>149697825
Same. Vegetto got Super's best animation. Suitable, too. Best animation for best boy.
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>>149697748
>based on the fact that he had just taken a motherfuckin final kamehameha to the face
you mean the one he casually flew towards the sky after and said "observe, this is a god".
It didn't do shit, but trunks' power of love conquers everything.
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>>149697868
Who did she fuse with anon?
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>>149697868
BTFO
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>>149697599
>>149697624
>>149697630
>>149697671

Ok, any actual counterargument?
Zamasu's ''autistic screaming and crying'' is literally part of his character development. His ideals led him to insanity, this is something you actually see irl too.

>>149697788
Don't even bother, this fanbase is composed by literal children.
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>>149697829
That and
>I CAN FEEL EVERYONE COSMO!
>GOD: WHAT'S THIS POWER?
>THIS IS THE POWER OF MORTALS!
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>>149697902
He's Trunks, he can do anything!
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>>149697883
this. and I fucking hate goku. that was some awful shit and I never want to see it again.
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>>149697868
oh shit
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THE ENDING OF THIS SHIT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER VEGETTO NEVER HAPPENED
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>>149697805
Goku visited Zamasu because he saw Black when he went to the past
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>>149697805
>Theres no causality loop.

Except for the fact that the "Goku visits Zamasu" part, the first step, was caused by a later part, the "Zamasu then joins forces and gets immortality from Super Balls" part as part of an investigation. And the reason for THAT part is because of the "Fights Zamasu" part. It's a fucking loop because the reason for something is a future action because of a past action with no point of origin.
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>>149697868
Supreme Kai is one. Watch the episode, retard.
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>someone besides goku actually wins the last fight in an arc
>people bitch that goku didn't win the fight

lol
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>>149697874
>those missing punches

That's the Vegeta half?
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>>149697963

you do know how time travel in dragon ball works right
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Now that it's basically finished, rate this arc.

4/10
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>>149697835
yes
thanks doc
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>>149697776
You are a retard. It is blindingly obvious that the time ring is his explanation for why he still exists, especially considering it's in answer to Goku's assertion that Beerus destroyed Zamasu. If it were due to Trunks' explanation, which rested on the assumption that Black was a separate entity from Zamasu created by the Dragon Balls, there would be no way for there to be two Zamasus, one from each timeline. I'm not going to argue further because you're obviously reaching.
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>>149697945

I would have been ok with the retarded ending, if Vegitto did Vegitto things and just straight bodied him for his 5 minutes, like he did Buu.

Like, if the 5 minutes he was on screen was him just toying with Zamasu and fucking obliterating his shit while engaging in smug bantz, only to have it end with that new bull shit time limit, i would be half as mad.
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>>149697788
>>149697921
>zamasu sperging is good writing
nice try toei
>ignores the copy paste unoriginal fight scene based on Broly, Android 13 and Gogeta vs Omega
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>>149697999
9/10
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>>149697756
>learning techniques fast is bad
>in Dragon Ball

Didn't Goku successfully use the kamehameha on his first try after seeing Roshi do it once?
>>
s-subs when guys this isn't funny anymore
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>>149697970
You're a special brand of stupid
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>>149697375

I know, right? But wow, maybe the reason they keep having Goku save the day is because of the rabid fanboyism. just look at this shit.

And they're fucking trying to use '''''logic''''' in fucking dragon ball to try and explain why things 'make no sense' hahaha
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>>149698007
Zamasu is Goku, Vegita, and Trunks' most personal and hated enemy. Vegito isn't going to joke around here.
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>>149698004
Whatever, the time ring isnt fucking important despite your assumptions about what it does.
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>>149697999

9/10
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>>149698007
>I would have been ok with the retarded ending, if Vegitto did Vegitto things and just straight bodied him for his 5 minutes, like he did Buu.
>Like, if the 5 minutes he was on screen was him just toying with Zamasu and fucking obliterating his shit while engaging in smug bantz, only to have it end with that new bull shit time limit, i would be half as mad.

that's exactly what happened though

30 seconds before he defused he taunted him saying he can't keep up with his speed, and when he got "knocked down" it was to bait him into getting hit by the spirit sword
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>"guys, let's push gohan as the face of dragon ball after he beats cell"
>"no.. no, that's a bad idea.. we'll keep it goku"

>"guys, let's push mary sue retcon as the face of dragon ball"
>"excellent idea! the fans will surely love it"
blame yourselves
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>>149697846
yes, but in this entire arc, trunk shouldn't be stronger than a ssj3, there's no way
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>>149698018
Well, why is it not good writing?
Explain anon, we're all ears.
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>>149697880
hey fuck you, the first ssj3 transformation has to be in the top 5 of anyone's list, from all of anime.
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>>149697992
You do know how basic causality works right.
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>>149698018
>>ignores the copy paste unoriginal fight scene based on Broly, Android 13 and Gogeta vs Omega
Where?
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>>149697999
Frieza > Buu > Black > Universe 6 > Cell >>>>>>>>> Return of F
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Where those 2 fucking kids the only god damn children there? i kinda wished they got blasted by zamasu to make trunks mad
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>>149697889
But i like both Trunks and Vegito you cocksucker, what now?
>>
Super is worth watching now, right? From looking, the animation seems like it got much better than it was during the BoG/RoF sagas. The new villain seems pretty interesting too.
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>>149697868
HOLY SHIT, NOW THIS WAS RETCONNED TOO
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>>149698085
Nah. The animation you're seeing now is a rarity. Just watch the fights on YouTube.
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I'm going to miss them. I'm going to miss their memes.
>>
Yes Vegetto was visibly stronger than Zamasu, but it wasn't quite as dominant as people would have liked, Zamasu did get some hits in.

Anyway, my problem wasn't the fight. Actually bringing back the Spirit Sword was hands down the best part of the episode, and though I wished for it I didn't expect it to actually happen.
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>>149697992
He's been shitposting in the previous thread too. Just ignore him.
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>>149698107
Her side effect made the Old Kai look old!
>>
>LE WTF TRUNKS LEARN MAFUBA IN MINUTES
meanwhile goku learns kamehameha after seeing roshi use it once

>genkidama out of nowhere
asspull

>LE TRUNKS GETS NEW FROMS FROM GETTING MAD

yeah its not like he's from a race that literally powers up from getting really really angry
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>>149698085
>Super is worth watching now, right?
Yep, unless you're an autist

>The new villain seems pretty interesting too.
He's got the honor of being the first DB villain who isn't just about being evil and powerful.
Not that it was a very high bar, mind you.
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will toei pull SSB broly in next arc?
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>>149697974
Him being Mafubaed or Vegitoed would have been ok with me.
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>>149698085
The episode was amazing

Vegetto beat the shit out of Zamasu
Every ningen led their energy to Trunks
Dealt the finishing blow to weakened Zamasu

Animation was one of the best since it started airing

Don't know why everyone is so mad, really
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>>149697970
>>149698033
to be fair, it could be retconned to mean one being a kai is enough.
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5-14 year old = whaaaa this episode suks!
15-23 year old = whaaa vegito lost!
23-x year old = I liked the episode
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SUBS WHEN
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>>149698102
IT'S ON YOUTUBE YOU DOUBLE NINGEN

SEARCH FOR IT
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>>149698144
No, just a saiyan that can go SSJ4 in the multiverse tourney
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>>149698166
>The episode was amazing
mods, can we get a range ban on this guy
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I wish he got an answer for why humans are the way they are, and accepted it.
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>>149698107
What? No it hasn't.
>>
Trunks learned a fast-charging variant of the Spirit Bomb that he formed into the shape of a sword.

The Spirit Bomb, once again, proves itself to be the most powerful technique in the series.
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>>149698142
>a race that literally powers up from getting really really angry

It doesn't though. That was Super shit retcon to justify changing powerlevels without having to train.

That ability has always been unique to Gohan and this has been explained a fucking thousand times already. Stop looking for excuses you pathetic shit-eating Trunkscucks.
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>>149698030
Goku was stablished as a fast learner

Trunks was stablished as a shit tier learner back on Z when he didn't realize why Vegeta discarded Full Power Super Saiyan in favor of Ascended Super Saiyan, and even after getting extra time to train HE DIDN'T LEARN ASCENDED SUPER SAIYAN
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>>149697999
>>149698075

Black > Buu > Cell > Universe 6 > Beerus > Frieza > Saiyans > a turd > Golden Frieza

Golden Frieza was a fucking disgrace
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>>149698195
>he didn't get the chills from hearing kaioken and yosha the same episode
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>>149698209
holy shit this bait
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>>149698178
vegito didn't lose
>>
wtf I hate Trunks now
>>
>>149697999
Good start then nosedive down/10
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>>149698209
>That was Super shit
It's been a running theme since about Demon King Piccolo.
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>>149698196
maybe he will next episode, with Zeno himself appearing

maybe Zeno will give a deep speech of why everything is the way it is

>Mortals exist because fuck you Zamasu, I am the fucking King and don't you dare question me
>>
>>149698179
http://horriblesubs.info/
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>>149698195
Yes anon, only one person liked this episode
>>
>no one talking about Zamasu crying

what is this
>>
>>149698203
>literally say that a fusion between mortal and non-mortal falls apart
>fusion between mortal witch and non-mortal kaioshin doesn't fall apart, only changes the appearance of the Kaioshin and still keeps the immortality

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

IT WASN'T EVEN TOEI FILLER, IT WAS IN THE MANGA TOO

TORIYAMA IS RETCONNING HIS OWN SHIT BY THE DOZEN
>>
I'll never bully Gohanfags again
I'll never argue with Gogetafags again
I'll never try to defend Vegeta against Gokufags again

My entire existence from this day onward will be solely focused on shitposting against Trunksfags.
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>>149698166
People are angry because they got baited and thought Vegito was going to end the arc and Trunks ended up stealing the final moment.

I can see why they're angry but I think it's still pretty silly since the finale was still good.

It's DBZ though people should be used to asspulls by now.
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>>149698250
Exactly, you're old enough to understand that.
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Hmm... who are the most popular characters? Trunks and Vegitto?
I heard people also like Broly, how about we make the villain look like Broly and have Vegitto and Trunks fighting him? We can even finish him like in the movies. People sure loved the movies, right? It can't go wrong!
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>>149698211
>Trunks was stablished as a shit tier learner
Yeah no. There's a difference between learning and using.
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>>149698272
I hope
I'll probably be dissapointed but I want Zamasu to stick around and not be evil
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>>149698211
what the fuck are you talking about?

Vegeta never learned FPSSJ, thats what go gohan and goku got.

His lack of actual fighting experience had nothing to do with his ability to learn
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>>149698309
You don't know nip do you.
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>>149698309
>>>literally say that a fusion between mortal and non-mortal falls apart

I think they meant actual mortality there anon, not a fusion between a ''mortal'' (aka non-god) and a god
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>>149698307
zamasu crying gave me a massive boner
seriously I have a crying fetish ;_;
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>>149698309
No, he doesn't. He POINTS TO ZAMASU as the OPPOSITE of that.

Kai + Mortal = permanent. Watch the episode before complaining, ningen.
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>>149698315
No, that's not why people are mad. It's because of the writing.
>>
so is the universe tournament arc next?
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>>149698329
Is Broly popular in Japan? I think most of the main cast and guys like Bardock are more liked
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>>149698041
>the time ring isn't important
>in an argument about pradoxes and time travel
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>>149698309
anon, they say that fusion with a kai is permanent however a fusion with someone who's immortal is inherently unstable.
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>>149698407
No. You can expect a shitload of filler though.
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>>149697605
>final kamehameha which was from fucking video games
No, he used it against Buuhan as well.
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>>149698476
Tori really should have picked animation or manga. Not both.
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>>149698510
that wasn't a final kamehameha, that just looked like a big bang attack
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>>149697068
The same shit happened to Cell and Buu
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>>149698510
That's big bang kamehameha
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>>149697295
He literally took a Final Kamehameha to the face and was unharmed, and bragging about him being a god.

Yet Trunkscucks like you belive it is logical that Trunks asspull Genkidama Sword >>>>>> Final Kamehahema
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>>149698601
>>149698559
Until Xenoverse came out it was called Final Kamehameha.
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>>149695938
Because Buu defusing guys inside his body made no sense. Gotenks was fused the entire time in the same environment.

The time limit makes more sense since the Kais of 7 are fucking retards and tend to overstate shit. Elder Kai spent 10000 years in a sword and is a near senile old idiot who's only trait is 'Roshi but not'. He could easily overlook a simple fact about the potara since he was a kai and his might have been the only fusion he witnessed.

That's why the 2 permanent fusions we got were Elder Kai and Kibitoshin while Vegetto fucked about while holding back and randomly defused despite other fusions not defusing at all despite being entirely permanent as well.
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>>149697748
>trunks killing zamasu makes sense based on the fact that he had just taken a motherfuckin final kamehameha to the face
Actually, it doesn't make sense based on that. Zamasu was laughing at the Final Kamehameha yet Cucknks asspull managed to do what Vegito couldn't.
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Stronger than Zamasu
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Why didnt they let him turn blue?
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>>149698049
Nah that didn't happen at all superfag. They had weak as fuck exchanges. Vegetto got some too. What we wanted was full on domination and devastation for the entire Vegetto screentime.
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>>149697999
The moment Black disappeared everything went to shit/10
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>>149698785
Like we got?
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>>149697999
Worst ending of all arcs including GT and movies. Rest was kinda shit too. 3/10.
>>
>SAO ending

for what purpose
>>
So how is Trunks going to beat Zeno?
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>>149697756
>Learns the mafuba in MINUTES
Goku learned the mafuba the first time he tried it. He kept practicing it all night because he couldn't hit the fucking pot
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>>149698821
Nigga, Zamasu overpowered Vegetto once and bodied him. You didn't even watch the episode.
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>>149696754
>Toriyama wanted to finish the series with-

I can pull that fucking card too, Toriyama originally wanted to finish it off after the pilaf saga.
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>>149698711
>>149697912

wow its almost like zamasu was literally not only going insane, but his body was literally MELTING AND FALLING APART. He also stated that he was immortal, when, gasp, he wasnt actually immortal. you guys are retarded
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>>149698926
Toriyama never wanted to start Dragon Ball to begin with. If anything, he should've ended it at Yamcha saga.
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>>149698921
>overpowered Vegetto.

Not at all. Vegetto had the fight under control from start to finish. He got knocked down once, but only to bait him.
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>>149698921
>Zamasu overpowered Vegetto once and bodied him.
You mean he knocked Vegito away after the pummling he gave him and then proceeded to get stabbed.
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>>149697999
8/10
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>>149698967
I didn't want control. I wanted full on anal devastation. Baiting and shit like that is for pussies that can't just overpower their enemies.
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>>149699049
Fair enough, it did seem slightly out of character.
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>Nobody uploading a webm of the best animated part of the episode
Shame there's a 3mb size limit
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>>149699086
>it did seem slightly out of character.
Not really. He's done it before.
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>>149699128
Reminder that the entire fight against Buu was a plot to let himself get absorbed. That's why Vegetto fucked around the whole fight.
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>>149697999
GT/10
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The power-up through transfer thing happened back in BoG when they botched the Super Saiyan God ritual the first time. Goku got a huge power boost from absorbing the others' ki but he didn't transform
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>>149696600
>Vegito at SSB should have been strong enough to curbstomp even Beerus
hahaha nope
>>
People complaining about trunks, but nobody say a thing about black turning super saiyan rose? noone complains about black using some dumbass scythe that splits dimensions and causes random other blacks to appear? Noone complains about zamasu suddenly using random eye beams and god halo beam things?
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>>149699269
Vegetto was like a million times stronger than anyone in Z. You don't realize how broken Vegetto is.
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So, to recap.
Trunks finally decided that he shouldn't carry the weight of the world alone. He admits he's not powerful enough to end Zamasu by himself and accepted everyone's help. Will Goku and Vegeta learn from him? Perhaps it's his example what leads to them actually working together and surpass Beerus by acknowledging their own limits.
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>>149698634
It actually looked like he just dodged it.
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>>149699337
I don't think you realize how broken Beerus is.
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>>149699324
People complained about those things, too. Minus eye beams.

There's just so much shit this episode.
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>>149698401
>>149698315
>>149698166
sure, it was an ass pull that trunks suddenly know how to do into genkidama. but on the other hand this arc has been going on for pretty long now and they need to end it. and I think it's perfect that trunks is the one to hit the "final" blow. he's the one supposed to be the hero. the ones complaining about -that- are the same who complain about super being the goku&vegeta-show.
but I also know that zamasu is not defeated yet
I liked the episode. animation was great too
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>>149699503
I'm in the camp that's happy with Trunks winning and wanted it from the beginning, but didn't like how it was done.

Asspulls, like you said. But I think we're more or less in agreement here.
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>no shot of Vegetto cockily crossing his arms

You had no job, Toei
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>>149699560
>I'm in the camp that's happy with Trunks winning and wanted it from the beginning, but didn't like how it was done
Same. I hope the manga will make the ending better.
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>>149696561
Holy kek
Fucking kill yourself
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>>149699803
>no leg-fu
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>>149699803
he did the "come on" gesture with his hands at least
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>>149696995
More like Goowazu
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>Arc is mostly filler
>Last few episodes have 90% of the action
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>>149699945
what are you? 14? fuck man, you can't be this retarded.
it's called building up a story for a showdown
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>>149700013
>super
>building up anything
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>>149700116
(YOU)
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>>149700188
Have your (You) back, filth.
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>whole week hyped just for this episode
>Vegito gets only a few minutes on screen to sell merchandise
>asspull for potara to only last 1 hour (5 minutes)
>asspull for genkiken

And I was enjoying the arc. What a way to kill the hype. I'm so fucking underwhelmed right now.
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>>149695787
>mine is bigger than yours
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>>149696818
>just behind Zeno
behind GoDs you mean.
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>>149699803
*one job

Triggering my autism
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>>149700239
I feel this so hard. How is it possible that so many people on here enjoyed it? Don't they have any souls?
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>>149700392
>>149700392
>>149700392
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>>149697805

>Timeline 1
>"First" timeline
>Goku dies to the heart virus, androids ruin the world.
>Trunks takes time machine to the past, creates timeline 2.
>In timeline 2, finds a way to destroy the andorids (Bulma's detonator)
>Returns to timeline 1, destroys the androids. Gets killed by Cell
>Cell takes the time machine farther back in the past than Trunks went, creating another timline, timeline 3 (Main timeline).

>Timeline 4 (Future trunks)
>Same as timeline 1
>Trunks goes back to the past, but instead (for some reason) goes to timeline 3, the same timeline that the cell from timeline 1 went to.
>DBZ happens.

In total, there were four time lines, one where the andorids wreck the future and Trunks is killed by cell, one where Trunks came from the future to save Goku, but cell wasn't present so its fate is unknown, future trunks timeline, and the main timeline.

Black clearly wasn't the main timeline (timeline 4) Zamasu, since we saw that one ourselves. He DID fight Goku though, which means it can't have been the timeline 1 or timeline 4 Gokus, since both of them died to the heart virus. That must mean it was Goku 2, the one who survived the heart virus, but didn't have to fight Cell. But, Goku only fought Zamasu because Trunks came from the future to get help for Black. If that doesn't happen, Goku would've never gone to fight Zamasu, so Black would never have existed. So, which timeline Trunks came to warn him? It can't be Trunks 1, he died. It can't be Trunks 2, since that's the Universe in question, and going back splits timelines (And all 4 are now accounted for). It can't be timeline 3, since that Trunks is still a child, and of course, Trunks 4 went to timeline 3.

So how the hell did Goku 2 end up fighting Zamasu to create Black?
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>>149697683
Trunks
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>>149697682
Those fucking kids voices were annoying me so much in this dumb episode

Was hoping they'd be killed to give Trunks a reasonable rage boost but nooooooooooo

"Keep at it" like 5 fucking times shut the hell up already I was REEEEEEEing like Zamzam and lowering my volume

Fucking kids ruin everything
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>>149700791
anyone else feel the irony here?
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>>149700884
Those fucking kids posts were annoying me so much in this dumb board.

Was hoping they'd GTFO to give us some reasonable calm but nooooooooooo

"Keep at it" like 5 million fucking times shut the hell up already I was REEEEEEEing like Zamzam and avoiding comments in the board like the fucking cancer

Fucking kids ruin everything
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Ok I was a tiny bit hyped for this one, but what the fuck happened with Trunks getting energy from minna?
Some sort of genkidama? But people have to want to give their energy for genkidama, no?
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>>149697999
9.4/10
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>>149699872
Goku used nothing but right before they fused you gigantic mong
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