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>the most BULLSHIT, blatant retcon for Potara earrings
>the fight, as awesome as it was, lasts for a few minutes, most of which is shown in the preview of last episode anyway
>Vegetto gets snubbed in a worse way than even Gogetafags could have predicted
Zamasu spends his entire screentime being an ugly fucking blob doing autistic screeching
>Trunks powers up to levels he shouldn't come even close to because he's angry for the xth time
>reaches even greater mary sue levels yet
>episode literally combines THE WORST of GT finale + Broly movie into one giant asspull shitshow
>Zeno will save the day at the end when he could have done so since the start

I never thought I'd say this, but this undoubtedly even worse than GT. And I've hated GT for decades.

Angry Trunks > Whis, Beerus, Vegetto, Zamasu, SSB and SSR, et cetera
Because he's angry and stuff. And some brats are giving him their power. This is Super logic right there.

What an absolute shitfest.
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TRUNKS IS MARY SUE SHIT
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>>149687633
>the most BULLSHIT, blatant retcon for Potara earrings

OP is a dumbass who doesn't read Japanese. Probably a Gogetacuck
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>tfw Bra will make Super great again
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>they got rid of based smug Goku Black to bring as an autistic /r9k/ yami marik ripoff

JUST KILL ME
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Trunks is officially stronger than SSB Vegito
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post mai lewds
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>We have plot from fucking decades ago saying that half breeds are stronger when enraged
>But it's an asspull when Trunks does it
>When Vegetto basically did 80-90% of the work already and Trunks was just cleaning up
ok
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>just train for 4 months
>just be Trunks
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PRAISE AND ADORE HIM
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CONSENTLESS
SUPER SAIYAJIN 2
GENKI DAMA
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VEGETTO FAAAG
WERE ARE YOUR HANDS?
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Literally
>sword of friendship
hahahahahhaha
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I'm killing myself boys.
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>>149687633
>>the most BULLSHIT, blatant retcon for Potara earrings
muh bad air!
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GT > Super

Prove me wrong.
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>post yfw vegito got cucked
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Trunks > Vegito SSB
thanks toei
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when is vegeta gonna get a main villian kill
it's taking way to long now.
golden freeza should have been his
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The new fusion rule the pulled is maddening
>no more vegito ever
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>>149687710
Trunks > SSB Vegito
Trunks > Fused Zamasu
Trunks > Whis
Trunks > Beerus
Trunks > Kaioken Goku
Trunks > Hit

DUDE ANGER LMAO
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>>149687633
>continuing yfw Vegito didn't finish Zamasu
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>>149687738
I'm right here, I'm a man of my words. I'll take you all on!
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>>149687731
DELETE THIS
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>>149687710
Vegetto did most of the work.
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>>149687751
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>Black is gone
>New Zamasu fusion is shitty looking and non smug
>Vegito fusion limited to 1 minute barely any action
>Trunks mary sue shit with spirit bomb

Wow they could not have made a worse episode
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I didn't see the episode. Who was winning before Vegetto unfused?
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>>149687633
Trunks is best boy motherfuckers.
FRIEZA
ANDROIDS
CELL
DABURA
PREVENTING BUU
ZAMASU/BLACK
not even jobetto got anything on best boi you cucks.
No one we live supreme. the sword that cuts trough immortality and gods.
My autism level is so fucking high right noooooow fuck you alll you faggots for doubting best boiiiiii
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>>149687633
Heres the problem, Inconsistency.
Old Kai told Goku in Z a mortal potara fusion IS permanent and your telling me Old Kai of all people is wrong on this subject. Changing it to be limited was downright stupid, what was the harm in keeping them fused lend his energy to trunks then use a wish to defuse we can even get filler out of it but no.
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>>149687739
How could they fuck up so bad...
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TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE
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Speaking as a Vegitofag here, I liked the ending.

Trunks was the one who had history with Black and Zamasu, and Goku is notorious for stealing kills, so Trunks definitely needed this kill. Remember how bullshit it was when Goku stole Vegeta's rightful kill in RF?

Vegito didn't even job, he's the reason Zamasu's body was fucked up. Trunks wouldn't have been able to damage him if he wasn't.

There was definitely a rushed ending though, could have taken another episode.
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Retcon? Potara earrings acting as a superior fusion dance for mortals just explains why the fuck Vegito unfused in Buu.

They simply ran out of time.

Better explanation than lolstomachacid.
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So now that Trunks is the strongest in the universe the question will always be when a new threat arrives "Why didn't they use the time machine to get him to help out?" or now that fusions have no downsides "Why didn't X/Y fuse?"
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>>149687773
it's not fair
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>>149687799
>>New Zamasu fusion is shitty looking and non smug
only the half purple shit
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>>149687633
>implying Vegetto Blue is canon
>implying potalas are retconed
>implying Zamasu really turns generic villain #1552149

kek toeifags are so delusional
Thanks Toyotaro, you're our savior
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Leave Trunks to me
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>>149687714
Don't bother, Right now Gogetafucks are posting and pretending to be Vegetto fans.

OP is a complete delusional idiot who forgot who was the protagonist of this Arc. Trunks fucking deserved this Win, and he would never had succeeded if not for Vegetto. It was nice to see Vegetto again, the defusing because the power was too much for the potara is understandable. Also Op doesn't realize SSJ4 Gogeta just fucked around while Vegetto went straight to business because he knew he wouldn't last too long.

Tldr Trunks+Vegetto > SSJ4 Gogeta
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>>149687751
I hate this. Fuck Toei, fuck Toryiama.
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>>149687789
It's time!
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>>149687702
>Vegeta is amazed at F. Trunks but he knows P. Trunks is a big faggot
>He impregnate Bulba to get a new son and train him to be like F. Trunks
>He get a girl instead
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>>149687857
>Trunks beats the shit out of Zeno because he got angry

I can see this happening
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>All these people complaining about "power of friendship."
Answer me honestly, did you have this same problem with how Buu ended?
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>>149687767
I wouldn't mind anger as a plot device at all, Trunks should be fucking devastated at this point, but it doesn't seem to be the case. He's always pretty sober. It's just "people need my help" power-ups.
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Vegitofag here, Why didn't they just give us Gogeta if they were planning on this. Vegeta suddenly learning the fusion dance is much less of a painful retcon than Potara become worthless trash.

I just wanted to see A fusion shine for once and not get fucked by being a cocky shithead, oh well I suppose there is always Fusion Reborn
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>>149687857
He's probably going to appoint Trunks as God of Destruction of that timeline.
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>>149687812
Vegetto
Trunks only dealt the finishing blow.
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>people are THIS mad because people are telling the story the way they wanted to instead of giving into fans

Potara wasn't retconned, it was given a further explanation.
Vegetto didn't job, can't explain his sudden de-fusion other than 2 MUCH POWER :v but he was kicking ass before that.
Vegeta and Goku time BTFO

suck it up butter cups
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>>149687855
>Thanks Toyotaro, you're our savior
What if any of that happen in the manga?
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This isn't fair THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR THIS ISN'T FAIR
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Superfag here (well, not anymore)

Remember all those arguments and posts since 2015? Defending Super and saying it was better than GT and stuff?

Sorry about that, guys, I'm really sorry, I don't know what the fuck was happening to me

I was fucking blind or something, again sorry


Super is shit, a piece of shit just like GT or even worse, fuck toei and fuck toriyama
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>>149687633
>Angry Trunks > Whis, Beerus, Vegetto, Zamasu, SSB and SSR, et cetera
>Whis
When was that stated?
>Beerus
When was that stated?
>Vegetto
He was literally fucking Zamasu's boipucc during the whole thing while Trunks needed help from the ningens
>Zamasu
He need the help of everyone else, he was getting pushed around by Zamasu before the spirit bomb

Stop being a salty faggot and actually pay attention to what your watching instead of raging autistic about your THE ONE not winning.
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You already stole my Gohan, Launch, Tien, Goten, Black and now Vegetto

WHY
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>>149687738
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
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>>149687702
im ok with that
i want this as a non canon super movie
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>>149687832
Maybe they get Trunks in the multiverse tournament, hope he has mastered SSB instead of his almost SSB form.

Fusions still have downsides, which is time, SSB Vegetto has it and so does SSJ3 Gotenks.
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TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

TRUNKS IS A MARY SUE SHIT

I'LL NEVER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT GOKU GETTING THE VICTORY EVER AGAIN IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE

I AM SO FUCKING MAD REEEEEEEEE
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>>149687817
Yeeeeeees lets gooooooo
Trunks squad
Only gohanfags get mad.
Forever in our shadows
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>>149687820
But old Kai was wrong. Vegito unfused inside Buu remember?
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*********************************************

Zamasu is still not dead.

His body turns into clouds or someshit and they call on Zeno to finish him off.

**************************************************
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>>149687738
>le hand holding meme

You faggots need to stop forcing this shit. I'm a Gogetafag by the way.
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>>149687888
>Trunks has the exact same rage power Gohan does
>People love Gohan for it
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>Witch was a Kai all along
KEKEKEKEKEK
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>>149687820
>>149687633

I think the retcon works to explain why he defused inside Buu, better than the old "weird air" explanation.
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"It's ok when mad monkey autism saves the day when it's Gohan but when it's Trunks fuck that!"
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>>149687789
im gonna hold your hand so hard
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Did people even pay attention during this episode? Vegito wasn't really having trouble against Zamasu, and if not for this bullshit retcon he would have come out on top. So no, Trunks isn't stronger than him.

But Trunks is a Mary Sue. Yes he deserved that kill since this his his world at stake, but they really couldn't do it a better way? The 20 humans left on Earth plus a beaten and worn out Goku and Vegeta gave him enough energy to kill Zamasu? That was fucking retarded.
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>TRUNKS IS STRONGER THAN SSB VEGETTO

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>149687789
>>149687924
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GIVE ME THOSE HANDS BITCHES
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>Vegetto
>literally beats Zamasu so hard to the point he loses immortality
>Unfortunetly potaras Can't keep up with Vegetto's power and defuses
>Trunks gets the killing blow

Tell me fags, how exactly is this not glorious? How exactly did Vegetto get cucked when his purpose was to make Zamatsu vulnerable
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>>149687633
Why not use Gogeta instead of making them the same
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>>149687734
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>>149687921
>>149687924
>>149687912
>>149687860
>>149687828
>>149687812
>>149687795
>>149687773
>>149687742
>>149687731
>>149687708
>>149687710
>>149687633

LET'S ALL CALM DOWN, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT. GOKU AND VEGETA WILL KEEP THE POTARAS.
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KORE DE OSHIMAI DA
FINAL KAMEHAMEHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wTGUG4aHLY
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So happy bros, what a great episode.
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>Vegetto's legacy and memory will be forever tainted by Super trash
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Based Trunks.
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>>149687897
>:v
Get the fuck out.
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Wait I thought these episodes aired at 5?
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>tfw waiting for geekdom review on this episode
i wonder whats his thoughts on this episode
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What was the reason that Vegitto defused?
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>>149687997
Vegito beat Zamasu so hard his body started fucking up. Trunks got the killing blow when Zamasu was almost done.
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>>149687996
>But Trunks is a Mary Sue. Yes he deserved that kill since this his his world at stake, but they really couldn't do it a better way? The 20 humans left on Earth plus a beaten and worn out Goku and Vegeta gave him enough energy to kill Zamasu? That was fucking retarded.
They showed a flower and animals giving him power too. He was getting power from nature too, not just humans.
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this is what happens when you vote trump
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>gohan shelved
>vegetto jobbers
DBS was a mistake.
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>>149687996
How is it retarded? Trunks at this point was way stronger than SSJ3, Zamasu was weaken by Vegetto this gave Trunks the advantage
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>All this melodarama
You guys are pathetic, just enjoy the ride.
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Lets get this shit started then
DB>Z>GT>>>Super.
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FUCK TOEI
FUCK TORIYAMA
FUCK THIS RETCON BULLSHIT
FUCK SUPER
BLESS TRUNKS GETTING HIS MOMENT
it was a great episode and I loved the fighting scenes but im done.
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>>149687829
Trunk should have been the one that BTFO Black instead of Vegeta and goku should have been the one to use mafuba on Zamasu.
Then they both would have had a reason to fuse.
Trunks would have had his victory against the one who was shitting up his timeline without it being too much of an asspull and when they finally fuse Vegito should have BTFO Zamasu so that it wouldn't look like a total asspull if he got defeated.
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>>149687633
wtf I love GT now
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>>149687744
Potara having a 1 hour fusion works well with what Vegito wanted to do against Buu since if he didn't get absorbed quick they'd defuse and get killed.
Should've been the original weakness instead of air.
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>>149687952
and the fusion between two mortals via potara has possibly never occurred ever. boo was an emergency
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THIS IS TOYOTARO'S FAULT
FUCK TOYOTARO
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>>149688070
I think it was that Blue Vegito's sheer power broke it. Kind of like SS4 Gogeta.
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>>149688002
Zamasu wasn't immortal anymore since he fused. He still had regeneration, but Trunks/Goku/Vegeta/Vegetto's attacks did so much damage that the regeneration couldn't keep up anymore, like with Super Buu.
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>>149687751
feels good man
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>>149688070
It turns out that mortals can only stay fused with Potara for one hour, and Vegeto is so powerful it lasted even less than that.

This is also now the explanation for Vegeto defusing inside Buu.
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>>149688070
potara lasts only an hour
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>>149688002
>>literally beats Zamasu so hard to the point he loses immortality
Yet he tanked a Final Kamehameha with ease 30 seconds before Trunks asspull.
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SSJ4 Gogeta > SSJ Vegetto > SSB Jobetto
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Whos ready for Vegito every single major fight considering there is now literally no drawback to fusing into him?
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>TRUNKS HYBRID POTENTIAL AND GROWTH
>KOWS BOTH VEGETA AND GOHAN TECHNIQUES
>SPIRIT BOMB
>FUCKING SPIRIT BOMB INFUSED IN HIS BODY AND SWORD
>ABLE TO CUT TROUGH IMMORTALITY AND A GUY THAT WAS DURABLE ENOUGH TO STAND AGAINST VEGITO
WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH THE OTHER CHARACTERS ANYMORE TRUNKS IS HYYYYYYPPPPPPEEEEE
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I went from sperging out over how awesome this episode was to almost wanting to turn off the stream because of terrible this episode was.
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>>149688040
Trunks really is the best boy!
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>>149688002
I'm more mad that he defused then anything else that shouldn't of happened it was suppose to be permanent thats the drawback of the fusion.
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>>149687633
and yet there are those who will remain stuck into this shit show parade pretending that it still has the charisma of the past,

seriously, only those who can't move on are the audience for this fail play and nothing of our criticism can do anything to get them out of that nostalgia veil the're confined to
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Let's be real, no meme-ing, the "ningen potara = one hour" is a lot better of an explanation then the shit we got back in the Buu arc.
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>>149688101
he would kill everyone in super
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>>149688065
Why advertise your trash reviews?
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I had the lowest of expectations and I still came somehow disappointed.

I guess this is what happens when you watch Super after having fought one too many jRPG final bosses.

It all feels like the same shit.

I'm still trying to catch up on what the fuck happened, so I'll just bloody wait for the subs tomorrow morning.

even my brother complained about how very little action Vegetto had
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>>149688088
>GT>>>Super
Nah. Trunks getting a bulshit victory is still better than Goku getting all victories, bulshit and deserved ones. And the fighting animation humiliates anything from GT.
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>>149688146
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNeQuW5ksQ8
oh shit it's here get in here guys, geekdom review
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>>149688019
Because then Toei wouldn't be able to fuck us so hard.

I hope Toyotaro fixes this with one of these following options

>There is no fusion at all
>Zamasu asspulls some anti fusion attack
>Gogeta is used
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>>149688070
The more power the fused character has, the shorter the fusion is. Gotenks showed this in DBZ, when he transformed into SSJ3 in the final 5 minutes of the fusion (otherwise the fusion would be over in 5 minutes).
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You guys told me about it, and I didn't listen, sorry about that

DB>DBZ>>>>GT>>>>>>>>>>Super
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>>149688085
>not calling it genki drama

Missed chance buddy.
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>>149688129
Thats.. not what Gowasu said.

He said normally the fusion is permanent, but with their God ki it would last 1 hour
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This episode was like Mass Effect 3. Amazing until it suddenly shit itself and ruined the entire story.
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>>149688028
FUCK YOU NOTHING CAN FIX THIS NOTHING

FUCK DRAGON BALL, I AM FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SERIES, THE CHILD INSIDE ME IS DEAD FOREVER, I HOPE TORIYAMA DIES A PAINFUL DEATH AND THAT TOEI BURNS TO THE FUCKING GROUND

THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF THE YEAR 2016
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>>149687820
You even get a fucking Zeno to appear next episode. He can do ANYTHING. Just tell him he can't talk with his friend Goku because he fused, Zeno would defuse him in a second BECAUSE HE IS ZENO HE DOES WHATEVER HE WANTS.

What was even the point of the retcon other than allowing Trunks to steal the kill? It was already retconned once into allowing defusing via Dragon Balls. Now this happens, and makes Potara into something that can be absolutely abused in later arcs, since whatever, it lasts only 1 hour, right?

GODDAMN
AND FUCK TRUNKS
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>>149687750
No one will, because you're right.
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WAITED A WHOLE WEEK FOR THIS SHIT TURD
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Reminder that the Black arc turned into trash the moment he left.
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>>149688065
Hopefully he'll call it out for the bullshit ending that it was.
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>>149687633

I'm convinced this thread is the same three people sucking each other off.

It's a damn kid's show. Just enjoy the hype when watching it. If Vegito beat Zamasu it'd be underwhelming, considering he has nothing to do with this arc. Trunks was always meant to end it.

Spirit Sword was hype as shit
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ANON YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG
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Find a flaw
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Trunks is officially the worst character.

Trunksfags are officially going to become the new Gohanfags.

All that remains is hatred.
Super is GT tier.
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>Trunks using his D
>Cuts Zamasu in half
>Jobetto lying wasted on the ground
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>lol I made a spirit bomb by accident, I'll use it on my sword xD

dropped
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>>149687820
>Old Kai told Goku in Z a mortal potara fusion IS permanent and your telling me Old Kai of all people is wrong on this subject.

Goku flat out asked why he himself unfused before, and Gowasu explained why.
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>>149687633
man all that hype for a week gone in seconds.
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>>149688126
>>149688129
>>149688131
>>149688195

Is this a retcon explained during this episode? Because back in the Buu saga it was definitely permanent regardless of power and they only defused because of Buus absorbtion of them.
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>>149688142
When Vegetto runs Zamasu through with Spirit Sword, they both say that Zamasu isn't immortal anymore (yeah, Zamasu acknowledges it).
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I still don't understand why Toei didn't use Gogeta instead
I mean the "weakness" is fucking time limit
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>>149687958
This,also spirit sword is the coolest DBZ attack off all times
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ITT: analy devastated Vegettofags getting mad at everything
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>>149688172
No potara fusion is supposed to be permanent. old kai fused with a ningen witch why the fuxk havent they split or turned into pruple shit yet???
Toei fuxked up big time by bringing vegetto only to job
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>>149687908
That's what I'm saying. Vegetto Blue and Kaioken Blue are just toeibaits
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>>149688164
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>>149688284
Yeah, it's a retcon introduced this episode.
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>>149688147
My body IS READY!

No reason to use Gogeta anymore!
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>>149688305
#Vegettogate
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>>149688106
Except he stayed fused longer than an hour
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>>149687958
One had an entire series dedicated to it, the other didn't. One trained for it, the other didn't. One had lots of foreshadowing, the other didn't. One has character depth, the other (unfortunately) didn't. Seriously, I can't get over how mentally stable Trunks is right now. He should be breaking down. He loses his mom in right front of him and gets his past mom, which is a completely different person, hanging around as a constant reminder of what he lost. He gets to see his father again only to watch him cheat death twice. He loses Mai a few dozen times. He gets the brain damaged savior to his timeline and not even him can do shit about it. He has the weight of all survivors on his shoulder. He got called out on being responsible for this happening in the first place. If Super had decent writing, Trunks would have snapped.
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>>149688213
He said that if none of the participants are a Kaioshin, the fusion only lasts 1 hour.

Old Kai + Witch was permanent because Old Kai is a Kai.
Kibito + Supreme Kai, the same.
Zamasu and Black, probably the same.
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>>149688082
Trunks is the real hero,the perfect Z warrior he is our lord and savior
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Honestly, this episode could have been awesome with a few fixes.

>Don't defuse Vegetto in such a complete BULLSHIT way
>Make it very clear that Zamasu is extremely weakened if you're gonna have your mary sue Trunks finish him off
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Is it just me or did Trunks attack make 0 sense? Like it didnt fit his character, power or plot.
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>>149688322
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>>149687958
Gohan's power was foreshadowed for the entire series starting off with vs Raditz and consistently coming back for small boosts all building up to his SS2 form. The mystic form is more bullshitty but that wasn't rage at all and at least links to the fact he was constantly stated to have so much potential.

Trunks' powerups have all come in a tiny timeframe with little to no explanation at all. Pure asspulls.

I used to like Trunks..
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>>149688213
Then why did it last five minutes?
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Is this what it feels like being a Gohanfag?
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>>149687702
Hey there Captain Ginyu
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>Merged Zamasu loses a beam struggle to SSB Kaio Ken x2
>This motherfucker Hit fights SSB Kaio Ken x 10 head on and doesn't even get weakened from it

The strongest in the universe.
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RIGGED FUSION

UNFUSING WAS AN INSIDE JOB

SUPREME KAI KNEW THIS

BLUE'S POWER CAN'T DAMAGE POTARAS
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>>149688367
Come to think of it, their first fusion wasn't permanent in Z too.
If anything, it actually explains a plot hole from the past.
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>>149688364

Snap from what?

>Real men dont snap under pressure
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>>149688403
Future GOhan said Trunks had potential
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Well at least potara fusion is out of any equation in future episodes.
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>>149688289
Vegetto is more popular.
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AKIRA JUST KILL MULTIVERSE WITH A RETCON HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Gogeta got shit done because Vegeta is dormant personlity and goes straight for the kill.

Vegito is an idiot due to Gokul
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I am not even mad I am just laughing at myself for thinking that super can be not total garbage.
You know what the worst part is?
I'll see you guys next week.
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You know its bullshit when they go all nakama fairy tail power up.
Trunks is such a fucking mary sue omg.
Spirit bomb sword???
Really nigga?
Toryiama literally out of ideas
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>used to be a Gohanfag
>used to be a Gotenfag
>used to be a Vegettofag

I've had it!
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>>149688382
he's the light of hope, of course it does, that's literally his schtick from day one since the z days
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>>149688403
>>149688444
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>Herms98: So yeah: they explicitly say when non-Kaioshins use the Potara it lasts an hour, which was the *real* reason Vegetto defused in the Buu arc.
Wew what a retcon lads.
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>>149688364
Never he is not a study fag like shithan is he is a mighty Z warrior,he is the best half-saying accept it Gohan cucks
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>A Trunkfags posts near you
>A Trunkfags replies to your post
>A Trunkfags breathes the same air as you
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wtf I love trunks now
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>>149688287
https://youtu.be/4wTGUG4aHLY?t=29s

Literally ate a Final Kamehameha as if it was nothing. Are you saying Trunks asspull making him stronger than Final Kamehameha makes sense? Fuck off you retarded Super shill.
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>>149688360
Was it even over an hour in the manga?
I know Toei made base Vegito filler to drag it out.
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>>149687714
There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO truth to that half breed bullshit, you dumb fuck.
Stop passing your gay ass conjecture and theories off as truth.
At no point is it even a focus of plot that half saiyans are stronger. Fuck off.
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>>149688478
Sup anon.
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If there's one thing I learned watching this arc with /a/ it's that Dragon Ball fans are by far the most autistic, retarded, whiny fanbase there is.

This arc could have ended with Goku, Vegito, Zeno, Trunks, Gowasu, whoever but you autistic faggots would have complained regardless of the outcome. Maybe if it was Gohan or Broly showing up out of nowhere you morons would have eaten that shit right up.
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The shitty thing about this saga is that it dragged on FOREVER (remember how long it took just to figure out who Black was) and then they went back and forth through time several times to regroup over and over again, and then we finally get an awesome fight with the most powerful character in the canon (that people have been waiting a decade to see again) and the fights ends in 1/3 of an episode after getting cucked by a Star Wars lightsaber spirit sword.
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>>149688497
it doesn't make sense, but that's the explanation that's been given.
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>>149688452
>Gogeta got shit done because Vegeta is dormant personlity and goes straight for the kill

Did you watch GT? And before you say "not canon" neither was the movie.
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>>149688464
You are trunks fag now anon,have you seen the light ?

grass is Always green here
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>So fucking stronk they can undo dragon god wishes
JUST
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>>149688472
This sounds so fucking dumb. How did fucking ELDER KAI not know this.

Toei did this.
Toyotaro has to fix this entire fucking series now.
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>>149688485

>mfw Vegetto doesn't even show up in the manga and this is just dumb Toei shit like Kaioken
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>>149688467
I meant the sword power up bullshit, what kind of retarded move was that
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>>149688444
>Future GOhan
Future Gohan is an even weaker than present Gohan even after years of not training, let that sink in.
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>>149688364
He snapped and got a big power up out of it back during their second trip to the future. Did you forget?
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Why did Zamasu start breaking down?
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>>149688469
One statement vs an entire series of buildup?

Totally seems logical. Might become stronger than regular SS is truly foreshadowing of strength above SSB.
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>>149687633
Would SSBKK Vegetto stand a chance against Blackmatsu? Or would he had been cucked anyway?
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>>149688464
become a gokufag
he will always do something in the series
don't become a vegetafag like me,always disspointment.
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>>149688511
It's canon retard
http://web.archive.org/web/20111104071121/http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz04.php?m=02&id=race#link
>The tailless second generation are super ultra child prodigies.
Saiyan genes have an extraordinarily good compatibility with Earthling blood. Because of this, when the two races are mixed together children with formidable power are born.
>Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.
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>>149688249
this
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SUBS WHEN LADS
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>>149688452
Gogeta got shit done because he appears 30 seconds before the movie ends.

>>149688497
Gowasu said he wasn't immortal.
Vegetto noticed he wasn't immortal since he fused.
Zamasu himself said he wasn't immortal anymore.
He still had regeneration.
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>>149688403
You do understand that Gohan in no different from all the other half-saiyans, right? the only reason he got the spotlight was because he was the first Goten, Trunks and Bra should have the same potential as him heck Trunks and Bra might have more because of muh proud royal saiyan blood
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I want to fucking die bros why did toei and tori have to play us like this, fuck this gay ass episode and fuck this gay ass ending letting zeno fucking deal with it, so many things went wrong this episode at least fucking let Goku/Vegeta finish Zamasu off not heh lets give Trunks the fucking spirit bomb sword out of nowhere FUCK this retcon shit too
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>>149687633

Vegetto jobbed because Goku fused with Vegeta. He should have known better.
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How long untill we have subs? Can I go to sleep?
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>>149688546

oops, didn't mean to quote anyone
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>>149688511
It's mentioned in the Saiyan Saga when Nappa and Vegeta are heading to Earth. They talk about how the hybrid seem to show very high power and they could be able to create a race of Super Saiyans, but Vegeta denies the idea since he didn't want anyone stronger than him.
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>>149688551
He got slightly angry, I would hardly call that snapping.
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>>149688542
>How did fucking ELDER KAI not know this.
because toriyama didn't think about it yet
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>>149688448
Isn't it more likely? Only drawback is time now. No consideration of being permanently fused.
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>>149688520
This,they will never admit Gohan is a pussy,while trunks is the hope of humanity itself
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Reminder Vegito defused so early because of the SSB.
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>>149688530
Then Final Kamehameha should have finished Zamasu, not Trunks
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>>149688550
>let that sink in. Trunks was not trained or pushed like gohan as a kid

POTENTIAL
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SUBS WHEN GUYS REAL QUESTION HERE
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>>149688520
Pretty much this. People would whine anyway, doesn't matter who gets the kill.
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>>149688464
I know your pain, I am the same as except replace goten with piccolo.
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>>149688581

7 minutes
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>>149688520

The reaction is funnier than HxH Chapter 357, which was also full of whining.
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>>149688561
He wasn't immortal since the fusion, he just didn't notice it (he still had regeneration). Once they damaged Zamasu past a certain threshold, his regeneration couldn't keep up anymore.
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>>149688534
>>149688571
I will be a Trunksfag but we won't see him again after this arc

I have no choice but to stick with Goku.
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>Vegeta said he would never fuse with Goku again
>Fuses with him anyway
Should have just did the button pushing there instead of this Trunks nonsense
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>>149688450
>they retconned it just for that
Well maybe there is one good thing out of that whole episode.
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maybe the subs will explain shit better
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>>149688264
Shit taste, kill self
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>all trunks needed to win was one of these

WELL OK
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How do you make something worse than fucking GT?

HOW?
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>>149688631
>piccolo

I'm so sorry, anon.
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HORRIBLE SUBS WHEN , LADS
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>>149688640
He asked how long until subs, not how long Potara fusion lasts.
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>>149688520
>Goku
It's expected. Would have been fine
>Vegito
It'd have made sense. His powerlevel is meant to the highest but now they've instituted a new "rule" that was mentioned before to make him lose
>Zeno
That's fine too. To demonstrate all the hype is not talk
>Trunks
Nope. Unforgivable. His power creep is the worst in DBZ history
>Gowasu
It'd have been funny if he actually had some trick he could only pull once Zamasu was weakened and make sense because he's his master.

Trunks getting the kill is literally the worst possible option
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>>149688650
I would have rather they just pushed the fucking Zeno button without hyping Vegito and then letting us down.
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>>149688591

This

Amount of times Goku wins while fighting with Vegeta: 0

Amount of times Goku wins will using the power of friendship/love/macguffin plot armor of the current saga: 9000
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Aaaaaaand fucking dropppppeeeeed.
They really made vegito into gogeta?? Jesus christ.
All this ningen cant use potara make no sense since the old kai fused with a ningen witch and they still fused together.
Oh well wonder how multiverse is going to react to this hahahahaha
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>>149688450
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>>149688127
No nigga, becausr Black wasn't immortal, any sufficiently powerful attack against Merged Zamasu means he will only partially regenerate. Heh what a fuckup on their part.
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>>149688534
No, that anon seems to be unlucky, make him stay away from Trunks.
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>>149688249

I can't believe I miss him already.
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>>149688584
Might? Best boy trunks just proved it,gohan has nothing on him
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WE LOST GLORIOUS SMUG BLACK AS FINAL BOSS FOR THIS AUTISTIC /R9K/ YAMI MARIK CLONE
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>>149688666
trips of maximum comifness, thanks for this anon
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nyaa download when
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>>149688520
>Dragon Ball fans are by far the most autistic, retarded, whiny fanbase there is

This is the undeniable truth. You fucks aren't satisfied with anything. Just drop it now and the rest of us will keep enjoying it without the crying and shitposting.
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>>149688647
good choice
i will have to sit through the whole series without seeing vegeta get a main villain kill.
it hurts
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THIS NIGGA RIGHT HERE IS THE LIGHT OF HOPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5bSb2N2AI

Why are you people so buttmad?
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>>149688058
:) XD cx
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>all these plebs getting mad that someone other than Goku/Vegeta did something substantial

See y'all next week mothafuckas!
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>>149688583
>Gowasu said he wasn't immortal.
Stop saying this shit Super shill, you are worse than a Hillarycuck at this point. Zamasu tanked a Final Kamehameha easily, Trunks bullshit sword shouldn't have done shit either.

Are you saying Trunks >>>>>>>> Vegito makes sense? What a fucking retard.
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>>149688450
Ahahahagahahsgahahahfdjakkclng
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For the love of god toyotaro pls fix this mess.
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>>149688507
MULTIVERSEFAGS IN SUICIDE WATCH
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subs fucking when
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daily reminder that maffuba + trunks killing black was the best option
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How are the Japanese taking it?
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>Tfw I am a Gohan, piccolo, vegetto and blackfag.
Atleast I can find solace in the fact that Black remained topdog untill the very end.
Fusion with Zamasu was a mistake.
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Vegeta is now 110% good guy
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Vegito is now a jobber

A FUCKING JOBBER
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>>149688739
but muh asspulls
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Everyone is mad about Vegito. But my Zamasu-sama deserved more airtime!
and by airtime, no I don't mean it's particles spending time on the air
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>>149688695

The should have just fucking pressed it the first time they fought if it would end like this. Imagine all the time we could have saved.
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>>149688268

desu I never liked Future Trunks ever since the moment he was introduced into the series desu and I'm being brutally honest

I guess he had some pretty bad ass moments but at the same time, he was a fucking bore of a character
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>>149688756
Just wait for subs, then. Three characters said Zamasu wasn't immortal anymore, including himself. He tanked the Kamehameha because 1) he's still strong as fuck and 2) still had regeneration
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>>149688520
>>149688621
>>149688630
>>149688642
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)

Just fucking stop you piece of shit. You swallow this garbage writing like it's your alcoholic father's fat cock. Kill yourself.
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>>149688520
vegeta should have got the kill
alot of people on /a/ were happy when he beat the shit out of black.
i think alot of people here are just vegetafags but hide it cause he jobs
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alright guys let's get serious here
FUCKING SUBS WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149688786
t. retard
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so I have been out of the loop for a while but I know that Vegito was fighting Zamasu then trunks comes out of nowhere and kill steals from them with a spirit bomb sword is that correct?
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>>149688773
They were already complaining about zamasu fusion ending too soon weeks before this. apparently the leak on 2ch was accurate
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>>149687773
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>>149687633
Nice blog, where do I subscribe?
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>>149688282

you pretty much described every DBS episode to a T, brah
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Time to rewatch GT as an adult and ignore all the crap I was told as a teen and appreciate it properly.
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>>149688819

3 minutes bitch nigga
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Reminder they trashed Black for this.
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>Vegetto holds Zamasu in place
>Trunks gets free hit with spirit sword
>The hit cleaves Zamasu and breaks the Potara fusion

Did I fix episode 66?
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>>149688888
>2018
>watching dbz
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>All this and we know from spoilers the button is pushed anyway
None of this make any sense
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>>149688786
>jobber
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>potara can keep up with ZAMASU fusion
>they can't keep up with vegito fusion

I call bullshit
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>Trunks is stronger than SSJB Vegito
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>>149688812
The only thing I'll swallow are your tears, anon.
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where were you when Toei and Toyirama killed the best arc in Super and fucking destroyed the fanbase in one single day?
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>>149688700
You are retarded.

Goku isn't a kai. Vegeta isn't a kai.

No kai in the fusion? Limited fusion.
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>>149688672
Don't be anon I have made peace with myself a long time ago.
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>>149688464
Now you're just a fag.
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>>149688469
Even gohan recognizes trunks superority,will Gohan fags ever recover?
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Is Vegeta going to help repair the Hyperbolic Time Chamber after breaking it to train vs. the Zamsus?
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THIS IS SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT TRUNKS GETS EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IN THE FUCKING WORLD FOR JUST BEING HANDSOME. I WATCH ANIME TO ESCAPE REALITY NOT TO BE REMINDED THAT CHADS WIN EVERYTHING, I AM SO FUCKING DONE
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Dropped. I gave Toei and Toriyama another chance and they blew it. Seeing DB ruined like this makes me sick
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>>149688305

yeah nah, I don't get my cock wet over fucking Vegetto, can't understand the hype behind him, but this episode was kind of underwhelming asides from a very few moments
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Why are retards saying there was no build-up to Trunks getting the kill?

>whole episode dedicated to Trunks moping around and Kid Trunks and Vegeta calling him out for not saving his world
>big deal being made out of humans fighting back for their world
>arc is literally called "Future Trunks arc" and not Zamasu or Black arc
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They did my boy vegito dirty so that fucking little fuckboi can have his limelight.
Vegito is now officially gogeta with the fucking time limit.
Wow toryiama just use gogeta next time you motherfucker.
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>>149688842
it's actually pretty reasonable you fucking faggot

>>149688860
yeah, pretty much
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>>149688848
good luck, you're going to need it.
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>>149688873
Where the fuck is the Haman gif from? I like it
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I'm done.
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>>149688618
It's a five minute fusion if you use SSB
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Zamasu hates humans, yet need the body of a humanoid Goku (technically a sayan, but looks very human) to acheive their plan.

Is Zamusu the biggest hypocrit?
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Vegetto? More like Jobetto.
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>>149687633
It should have ended with the Vegeta vs Black fight
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Actually pretty happy Gohan isn't in super much.

Either he can job like everybody else or get asspull after asspull completely ruining his character like trunks.

Gohan, be a scholar, stay away from this shite.
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>>149688965
>Vegetto beating up Zamasu
>jobber

So was gogeta a jobber for unfusing as well?
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>>149688875
How could 1 episode destroy the hype for an arc this fast?
Black should have never left.
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>>149688860
There's still consentless SSJ2 Genki Dama and Power of Friendship Sword. I'd rather see Trunks suicide bomb Zamasu.
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>>149688899
Because he is useful. There's no Goku or Vegeta or anyone in his world, he literally is the only protector. He needs something to surpass even SS Blue more than Goku.
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>>149688812
Go,back to studying Gohan fag,let true Z warriors Save the Day
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>>149688949
It's a five minute fusion if you use ssj4
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Dragonball super sucks fucking ass cant believe they made everyone job countless times onlynfor fucking TRUNKS TO COME UP WITH A SPIRIT BOMB INFUSED SWORD OUT OF HIS ASS.
FUCKING BULLSHIT
Dbs is beyond fanfiction trash
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>Zamasu lost because he fused with his Ningen self
Ningen ruin everything
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>>149688870
Zamasu is a Kai you fucking retarded moron, the whole fucking retcon was that Potara is limited on mortals

Jesus christ do you people even watch the fucking episode
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>>149688899
>I WATCH ANIME TO ESCAPE REALITY NOT TO BE REMINDED THAT CHADS WIN EVERYTHING, I AM SO FUCKING DONE

lmao

Anime has ALWAYS been about the chads winning, you dumb shit. Even the "losers" in these shows are better looking and less kissless than us /a/ dwellers.
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I miss him
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>>149688870
Black and Zamasu are kai.

Goku and Vegeta aren't.
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>>149688949
Yeah and Goku only fought Frieza for 5mins on Namek after the planet started to explode.

Plenty of time if the writers need it to be.
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>>149688953
Zamasu said just this episode that he wanted some of Goku inside of him all this time, he's a fag
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>>149688991
After going into that bulky form, Zamasu tanked Vegetto's final attack though.
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Depending on how look at it, they weren't really retconning the earrings so much as explaining a previous plothole.
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>>149688993
It was the final episode
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This was a legit asspull and I swallowed everything in DB series.

Trunk suddenly surpassed SSB Vegito in strength and could do a spirit sword-bomb for zero reasons.
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>>149688981
Exactly. Vegeta kills black and Trunks sealing away zamasu with the mafuba would have been a great ending.
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Whis > Goku and Vegeta
Beerus > Goku and Vegeta
Hit > Goku and Vegeta
Zenou > Goku and Vegeta
High Priest > Goku and Vegeta
Trunks > Vegito SSB
Champa > Goku and Vegeta
Vados > Goku and Vegeta

Dear lord, they became the Yamcha of the show.
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The whole new rercon for potara with the ningen restriction makes no fucking sense.
If that were the case why hasnt old kai defused with the ningen witch??
Literally nerfed the fuck out of vegito to.make trunks look good.
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>>149689033
We all miss him
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>>149688658

THANK YOU

I want to whine but at the same time, god, I just want the fucking subs so I can understand what in the fuck happened.
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>>149689047
And his punches were more effective than his ki blast. welcome to dragon ball
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It's official Vegitofags are the new Gohanfags
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>>149687984
>>149687945
>>149687896

Potara earrings probably short circuited due to god ki.

>>149687710

Pure Good Energy > Pure Evil Energy

Genkidama > Zamasu
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>>149688995
yeah and fail to be Gohan's successor and leave future to fart.
watch the edge there.
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>>149689072
Hopefully one day I'll be able to play as SSR Black on Xenoverse 2 and endlessly beat the shit out of the filthy ningens.
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>>149689071
Because Old kai is a kai
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>>149688670

By being Toriyama.
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Legit though, guys, I'm fucking done. DB has never been the pinnacle of writing because fucking obviously, it's a shounen gag manga, but holy shit. Seeing it defiled like this is legitimately making me angry. Toei/Toriyama obviously don't even give a semblance of a shit anymore and if that's the case, then I don't either. Fuck this bullshit writing, fuck this show, I'm going to go shotgun GT to wash the taste of Super out of my mouth.

Thanks for raping my childhood, Toriyama, it's been a fucking horrible ride. I hope you fucking die soon. Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>149689072
I wonder how stupid and bullshit is gonna be the next villain.
>>
>Bring back Vegetto
>But retcon him into behaving exactly like Gogeta

...for what purpose?
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>>149689071
>If that were the case why hasnt old KAI defused with the ningen witch??
You answered your own question.
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>>149687702
Being this autistic
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Shame about Vegetto but hot damn I'm glad about Trunks getting the spotlight like this

Hopefully the manga won't have such a retarded retcon
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>>149689071
Because there was a kai in the fusion. They just need one kai.
>>
Trunks is the Lighting of Dragonball.
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>>149689071
Are you not reading the thread? It was said that if BOTH of the people fusing are ningen then it will be 1 hour, old kai is a kai.
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>>149689071
Its because toryiama was afraid to use gogeta because he got backlashes from fans when he used a character not creates by him (bardock in minus) so he came up with this bullshit
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>>149687633
vegetto fag here

the episode was a parody
>>
y'all fags
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>>149689115
great now go kill yourself you fucking faggot
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>>149689071
Because the old kai is a kai. Thus the fusion is permanent.
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>>149689117
To build short term hype and then crush the souls of all the fans.
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>>149688942
SD Gundam
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>>149688999
Fuck Cuckhan and fuck you. Stop swallowing this trash writing so this fucking piece of shit show gets axed. DB needs to just fucking die before it gets raped any further.
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>>149689096
Trunks and Mai will leave the future behind for some reason anyway. For all we know Zeno might wipe the timeline and let them get away.
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>>149689118
>>149689123
>>149689126
Then why was zamasu turning purple for having fused with a ningen?
>>
guys....GUYS
subs when?
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>>149689127
Best part
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>>149689127
post Trunks kill Zamasu
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>>149689170
Evil is purple in DB universe.

It just is.
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>>149688942
It's from a series of short episodes parodying various Gundam stuff. The name is SD Gundam, but since there's another (more famous) series by that name, just look up on youtube "SD Gundam OVAS" or "SD Gundam Shorts".
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Fuck the good guys. I'm going to be just a Blackfag forever now.
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>>149689175
>Due to a production issue, Dragon Ball Super episode 66 will be slightly delayed.
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>>149689170
His half is mortal now because reasons.
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>>149689131
Source for the bardock Part?
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>>149689115
I could make spirit sword with all these tears the Gohan fags are crying
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>>149689117
You mean
>Bring back Vegetto
>Make him Gogeta
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>>149688670
By not listening to edgy anime gurus of the internet.
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>>149689169
Maybe they will live with Zeno or something like that.
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>>149689169
Trunks timeline is the original timeline, Zeno should wipe out goku's world.
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>>149689170
It was because he didn't have a fully immortal body, not because Black was a ningen
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YOU GUYS I'M NOT JOKING SUBS WHEN
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>>149687633
What the fuck were they thinking by bringing a r9k cuck to replace black
>>
Did you people even watch the episode? Literally in the first 10 minutes it was explained that Zamasu's regeneration wasn't catching up. Is it really that hard to see that Vegito beating him up loosened him up for Trunks?
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>>149689145
You first. Get the fuck back into your daddy's bed, he hasn't fucked you today, you fucking cum receptacle.
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>>149689187
Straight ass pull mate
Also evil is pink.
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>gohanfags
>vegitofags
>multiversefags
>all btfo in a single episode

what a ride
>>
im glad it was trunks you idiots need to fuck off
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zamasu crying gives me a boner
help me
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>>149689127
>mine is bigger.webm
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Wew lad.
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>>149689115
>>149689159
>muh defiled
>muh childhood
Stop acting like you own the shit and get over it and leave.
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>>149689208
>hates terrible writing
>must be a Gohanfag

You're all fucking cancer.
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>>149689252
he was so pure
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>>149689225
I can understand that much. But the power of friendship and spirit bomb sword are inexcusable.
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>>149689201
He's gone, just like any hopes of Super turning good with this arc. Time to move on.

>>149689216
Super writers haven't figured that out yet. Remember the ring?
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I will only be happy if Zeno destroys all of Trunks' timeline. Fuck Trunks' timeline.
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>>149689146
Wait wasn't Zamasu just a GOD and not a KAI yet?
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>>149689115
>I'm going to go shotgun GT to wash the taste of Super out of my mouth.
That's a bad move. GT is still horrendous your nostalgia may say otherwise but trust me, it's terrible.
I mean, that's like eating shit because you were given something you don't prefer like say, candy corn.
>>
vegetto was filler like blue kaioken
the storyboards probably state that zeno beats blackmasu
zeno wouldn't have recognized vegetto so they needed him to defuse so goku summons him
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why dont they fuse vegetto with another universe's gogeta???
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>>149689259
We run this shit.

>said the guy that comes to a specifically and only for a day and for DBS threads
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>>149688520
spot on
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>>149689170
He had regeneration, but half of him (Black) wasn't immortal. He got damaged so much in a short time, that the regeneration couldn't catch up. Super Buu had the same thing (except he wasn't immortal).
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>>149689252

What was even going on at that moment? I just assumed he was going mad from all the power.
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don't you guys realize trunks was born with ssb? he has blue hair for a reason
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>>149689270
He lives on in my heart.
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>>149689267
>clearly a gohanfag
>telling others who cancer
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>>149689201
Me too
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HAHAHAH
Vegetto got nerfed.
Gogeta > Vegetto
I told you that you would reap the day you wished for Vegetto to be in super.
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>>149689305
yeah cuz Bulma is SSB m i rite?
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>>149689269
it's a sunday morning cartoon for kids
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>>149689181
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>>149689270
It could have been so good. Black was a brilliant antagonist.

Whats weird is that when we all heard the main villain was 'goku black' we assumed it would be shit. That part was the best part. The bit that should've been good was shit instead.
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I cannot even fathom how shit the next arc will be.

>Crimson Perfect Cell
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>>149689263
Stop defending trash writing you pathetic little sheep.
>>
Bullshit retcon, but at least it makes a bit of sense of why Vegetto split back in Buu saga. There was never an actual reason given for that.

Still don't like it but fuck it, Trunks making a genkidama Dragonslayer was cool.
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>>149689204
I see Toei is already trying to deal with the backlash
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>>149689336
trunks is a saiyan
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>>149689265
>beautiful cinnamon roll too pure for this world
>>
MY FAVORITE CHARACTER IS TRUNK
HE'S THE SON OF VEGATA WHO IS COOLER THAN GOKU AND BULMA WHO IS THE SMARTEST AND MOST IMPORTANT CHICK IN DRAGON BALL WHO EVEN HAS WHIS, ONE OF THE STRONGEST CHARACTER IN DRABONBALL AS HER FRIEND TO KEEP BEERUS FROM NUKING EARTH

HE TIME TRAVELED FROM THE FUTURE BECAUSE EVERYONE BUT HIM WAS KILLED, LEAVING HIM AS THE SOLE HERO.

HE'S SO STRONG HE DEFEATED FRIEZA EASILY .

AND THERE ARE TWO VERSIONS OF HIM. HIS YOUNGER VERSION CAN BECOME GOTENKS BECAUSE OF GOTEN, AND THEY BOTH HAVE A HOT GIRLFRIEND NAMED MAI.

HE'S SO STRONG HE CAN STAND UP TO THE GODS BETTER THAN EVEN GOKU AND VEGETA
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>>149689192
>>149689155


Thanks anons, I love you.
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>>149689333
they're literally the same thing now
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>Vegito=gogeta
Hahahahahaha
>multiverse btfo
HAhahaha
>Trunks best boi and not a complete jobber
Hahahaha
Holy shit all these tears are wondeful
>>
>so much build up for the Potara in this arc with BURAKUs only earring
>it's absolutely shit

SasugaToei
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>>149689341

subs when?
I need an explanation.
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>>149689265
How can someone made him cry?
>>
>>149689341
He sliced him through the dick.
>>
>>149689131
>>149687913
>>149688098
>>149688229
>>149688613
>>149688903
>>149689115
These faggots do realize that all Toriyama does is write a short summery of the arc story and design a character or two when requested for in Super right?
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>>149689341
>Take this, the power of friendshiiiiiippp!!!!
>>
>SON GOKUUUU

Awesome scream.
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>>149689337
And so?
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>>149689301
having sex with black
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>>149687672
THATS PRINCE TRUNKS bitch!

The true prince of the saiyans
>>
>>149687633
This is the most disappointing episode in Dragonball history

this episode make GT look fucking amazing
>>
>>149689341
Glorious
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>>149689372
Based Anon,with perfect Taste
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>>149689278
The Zamasu from Future Trunks' timeline was a Kaioshin (Black killed "his" Gowasu).
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>>149689115
>raping muh childhood
Oh shut the fuck up you whiny faggot.
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>>149689341
visually pretty good. But the fuck.
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>>149689396
Fuck off Cuckgitocuck.
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>>149687672

stay assblasted spicfag
>>
NEW
>>149689412
>>149689412
>>149689412
>>149689412
>>149689412
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>>149689375
Vegito still lasts longer anon
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>>149689341
Trunks went straight for the dick upward slice.
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>>149689341
I like how they just gave up on animation at that point, shows how much they cared about it.
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>>149689201
this he never dissapointed fusion with Zamasu was a mistake.
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>>149688019
Everyone'd know they'd pull... exactly the same thing if it was Gogeta
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>>149689396
This, all this bullshit is most likely Toei's doing.
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So uhh what was the point of the mafuba?
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>>149689385
Trunks is way to based he couldn't handle it
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>>149689265
this gives me such a massive boner
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>>149689422
Keep swallowing trash writing you pathetic little bitch. I wish people like you would just fucking die, you're the reason shit like this is popular.
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>>149689426
tf? Vegetto is the new insult or something? That nigga is literally just Goku and vegeta.
>>
>>149687889
Fuck off Buu spirit bomb made perfect sense

DBZ never relied on "HURR ANGER" powerups when it was convenient for the plot.
The sole exception was Gohan, and it was written as his special unique ability since the very beginning. And even then it never "saved the day" until its final climax in the Cell Saga.

And DBZ certainly never relied on power of friendship/hope bullshit. When you were weaker, you were fucking weaker, period.

Trunks in this arc was like something out of fucking Superhero Comics. As strong as the plot demand.
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>>149687710
Trunks is the new base form kid Goku from GT
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>>149689434
Fuck off.
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>>149689115
see you next week m8
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>>149689341
>Black Goku fused with Zamasu

>Just to end up dying like this

rip in pepperoni black goku you were a hot son of a bitch don't let anyone tell you otherwise
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>>149689434
Do people normally make new threads this early when there are still 70 replies needed to reach 500 replies?
>>
>spirit bomb beam sword
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>>149689333
Only problem with that logic is,
Potara > fusion dance = Vegito >Gogeta
Gogeta will never be stronger and now that the earrings work like the dance Gogeta will never be canon.
>>
as a vegetafag this arc was trash
only one good episode
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>>149689455
>This, all this bullshit is most likely Toei's doing.
The way it's looking this is Tori's work. Just look at the Zeno button.
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>>149689472
Keep swallowing your childhood's raped ass cum, faggot.
>>
>>149689341
How did we go from glorious Black to this miserable piece of shit of a final boss...
>>
>>149687917
>When was that stated?
in RoF.
Whis said something about if Goku and Vegeta teamed up they would've been able to defeat beerus.

I don't know about Super
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>>149689461
It might get used next week on Zamasu cloud form. If it doesn't, then it might have been just Toei filler. Maybe in Toriyama's outline they never even go back to the past and all the back and forth was added to extend the story (remember the last arc was 13 episodes, so Toriyama might have written this one with a similar length in mind).
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>>149689513
>as a vegetafag
already lost your credibility
>>
>>149689484
cuckhan fags are on full Damage control
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>>149689531
>I should have been aborted
>I should just kill myself

Your father beats you doesn't he, you pathetic little queer?
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>>149689472
>being this mad that a Chinese cartoon is doing what it wants instead of what you want
>>
>>149689115
This I hope he dies tommorrow
>>
>>149689349

> SSB Vegito is too OP that the potara earrings couldn't handle the power.

would Zamasu be kill if the fight continued?
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>>149689461
To stop either one of them, because Goku&co couldn't fight them together.
>>
>>149687889
I don't recall Goku doing it without learning it, as a Super Saiyan, taking people's energy without their consent and making a friendship sword out of it.
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>>149689560
>accepting shit writing
>b-but it's just anime

Grow the fuck up.
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>Black wouldn't have loss if he didn't fuse with Zamasu

Based
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>>149689267
>dragon ball
>good writing
>>
>>149689484
>The sole exception was Gohan
And Goku, on multiple occasions.
Then there's Vegeta to a lesser extent.
And Buu.
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Vegetto is the same as Gogeta now.
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>>149689560
something something japanese monkeys suck give dragon ball to the western fanbase
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>>149687958
>ROSAT
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How was he this episode
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>>149689472

> being this mad
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>>149689499
Fusion Cuckasu was a mistake
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>>149688073
How the fuck does that help justify that in any way
>>
>>149689607
I don't want fucking good writing I just want them to pretend like they know how to NOT write utter shit.
>>
Man imagine if Getto got the kill, this thread all gonna be "GOKU AND VEGETA SHOW LMAO".
>>
>>149689612
Except exponentially stronger.
>>
>>149689523
Seriously have none of you heard of Toyotaro? You know, the main director, writer and artist of "Dragonball Super"?
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>yfw even crunchyroll can't deal with this shit episode
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>GOGETAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>VEGITOFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>GOKUFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>VEGETAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>GOHANFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A TRUNKSFAG
>>
>>149689631
>being this willing to swallow trash writing no matter the medium

Eat lead you fucking cuck.
>>
>>149687860

Vegeta should be proud!

He gave birth to a real saiyan who can kill majors threats instead of jobbing
>>
>>149689484
>When you were weaker, you were fucking weaker
And yet Goku jobbed to Kid Buu for reasons. They even said he was weaker than SSJ3 Goku.
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>ITT
>>
I'd like to see people defending Super now. There is no fucking buildup for anything. It basically completely raped Z at this point. If a series makes you wish they would go back to 12 episodes of buildup you know they fucked up.
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I just don't get why Trunks didn't get all the rage power ups at the start of the arc - when Goku Black literally disintegrated Future Bulma/actual mom right in front of the kid.

Instead he's been getting rage power-ups from Black and Zamasu's shit talk, his dad from another timeline getting fucked up, and just seeing his friends getting fucked up.

But nah, I guess by DBS logic, seeing the one actual, living family member and parent getting turned into nothingness in front of you isn't all that rage inducing.

>Or maybe Trunks just never really cared all that much for his mom at all.
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>>149689680
ALL ABOARD THE TRUNKSTRAIN
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Winnie the Pooh is my favorite DBS character
https://youtu.be/uIapbFzYQrg
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How are the Japs reacting to this, I would think not very well.
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>>149689636

TOEI is running on a 5 dollar budget, they don't give a fuck anymore.

At least best boy got the kill instead of Goku.
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>>149689557
He beats his dick to your mother.
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>>149689680
It feels good to have your favorite character's triumphant ascensions past his struggles reduced to a set of asspulls which cheapen any drama he's involved in?
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>wahh wahhhhhhhh why do my japanese cartooons cater to children rather than my neckbeard NEET american ass
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>>149689603
>Black Goku fused

>We never see Black Goku really dying, just the two of them merged as one being sliced in half, if there was still any bit of him left after combined Zamasu started melting

It was for the best. Seeing the actual Black Goku die would probably be too much to bear for me.
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>>149689720
It's a show for kids. They will eat anything.
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>Akira just send multiverse to hell with a single blow

t-thanks
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>>149689671
You mean the guy who's essentially Tori's art slave? He's literally just following the guidelines like Toei is.
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wtf i hate trunks now
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>>149687956

Ok, the only thing that I legit critize was that weird retcon with the Potara. The actual first retcon in this. Vegito should have finished him.

Other than that, I don't get why some of you get mad Trunks does the shit he does. I mean yeah, the sword thingy is one thing, but the rage boosts is something that Gohan even had. Shouldn't that be in line on the fact Trunks is also a half-saiyan?
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>>149689780
Care to explain?
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Everything wrong with this arc.

1. Trunks using a move he's never even seen before
2. Goku standing a chance against fused Zamasu
3. Vegito getting hit even once
4. A bunch of weak humans being able to power up Trunks
5. Mai's pointless existence
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>>149689720
The show is directed towards toddlers. Older jap fans would just go "ohhh sugoi" out of politeness, they don't care that much.
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>people genuinely enjoyed Zamasu and Black Goku
>let's fuse them into a pile of garbage with a design a toddler could make better
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>>149689664
At least it would make sense considering how powerful the fusion is. Fusion vs fusion, shit doesn't get even more hype than that.

Reminder that Trunks started this arc around SSJ3 level, by the middle he was successfully holding back Black after both Goku and Vegeta jobbed to him, and now he dealt a final blow to a Potara fusion of two SSB tier characters. This is horseshit.
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>>149689680
The only thing is they've completely shattered his popularity, this shit won't sit with the japans.
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>>149689624

I was legitimately curious on how juvenile/young he looked. Looked more like a child than anything else.
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>>149689759
This much Salt,You are a Cuckhan fag im sure
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>>149689115
DB was never a gag manga you retard.
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This show sucks so fucking much. I don't consider it canon.
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>>149689714
In the manga, he already arrives on SSJ3 Goku level and Goku has to use SSJ God to beat him. I don't get why the anime team made him so weak in the beginning, only to quickly attempt to ignore that, even though they didn't even bother with a training arc. It's weird.
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>I want side characters to do something
>I'll call Future Trunks a mary sue when he does do something
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>>149689808
>3. Vegito getting hit even once
THIS MAKES ME ANGRY MORE THAN ANYTHING. HIS POWER IS SUPPOSED T BE MAX
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>>149689265
whats going on? my cinnamon roll deserved to win. Who the fuck made Zamasu cry damn you!
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>>149689603
He was too good for this shit show, the quality of this arc left right along with him.
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>>149689807
One of the universes in DB Multiverse fan comic was one where Vegetto stayed permanently fused. One of Multiverse's main characters is a Super Bra, who's actually Vegetto's daughter.
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What did people dislike about GT so much? Seemed like standard powerlevel wanking Z was famour for.
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>>149689807
Vegetto that never defused and stupidly powerful Bra from alternate dimension are rather important characters there.

Now Potara fusion only lasts an hour.
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>>149688895
I lost. I lost so damn hard.
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>>149689680
>DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE A MARY SUE FAG

ftfy

And I fucking hate Gohan with a passion and legitimately don't give a shit about Vegitto.
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>>149689837
Nah. I hate Gohan and I actually revel in the fact that he's pushed into further irrelevance. I just don't like the idea of Trunks being pushed into the forefront with pure last minute bullshit. He was a whiny bitch back in the cell saga, but now he's a whiny bitch that arbitrarily gets his way because the plot demands it.
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>>149689848

Oh thats even worse.

Super anime completely dismissing the sensible power climb of the Super manga.
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>>149689720

According to a earlier post, not very well.
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>>149689901
Because it shafts all characters who aren't Goku. Even Vegeta SSJ4 doesn't get one single episode to shine as a SSJ4 and is just there to be fusion fodder.
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>>149688083

Underrated post.

Holy shit, Vegetto did almost all the work. Trunks deserved the last hit.

WHAT YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS SHOULD BE RAGING ABOUT IS THE POTARA RETCON HOLY SHIT STOP BEING IDIOTS
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>>149689680
>Massively cucked in GT
>Super happens
I'm so happy
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>>149689893
>>149689908
This guy gives no fucks about his money making machine anymore does he?
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>>149688364
>One trained for it, the other didn't.
One literally lived in the apocalypse and was fighting for his life since his was a fucking baby.
The other literally didn't train at all until the last minute and won because 'u killed muh daddy' in his defining moment.
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>>149689901

- Kid Goku
- Horrible color palette
- The tone was off as fuck it didn't feel like DB or Z
- Goku saves the day everytime

that's what I can of think so far.
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>>149689808
>Mai's pointless existence

Pretty much amounts to

>A bunch of weak humans being able to power up Trunks

ya know, for the plot.

your every day romance that almost dies multiple times and grants you free power-ups

solid trope, seen it tons
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>>149689901
Poor animation
Poor story direction
Crossing canons
Making everything about Goku
Rehashing elements from different parts of the series
Suguro being unrelated to the suguroku space
and so on.
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>>149687997
>Buff gigga nigger gets shot down with a machine gun
>Bleeding out on the ground and unable to move
>I come in and kick him in the face
Gee, look how strong I am!

Seriously, are you retarded?
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>>149689808

1. Trunks literally was surprised at the Spirit Bomb. Didn't know what it was but realized it was shared energy, then literally covered energy-ki into his blade which is not hard to do.
2. Goku standing a chance against fused Zamasu was HUGE bullshit. I agree with you.
3. Buu hit Vegito lol. And it's not like Vegito got hurt. He was smug the whole time.
4. Spirit Bomb uses energy from the environment including humans. Oh and Goku and Vegeta powered him at the end Anon. It makes sense. (Spirit Bomb is said to be one of the most powerful moves in DB due to how limitless it can become.)
5. Lol, Trunks needs some pussy my man
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>>149690005
It doesn't mean shit how much he trained BEFORE this arc. He started as SSJ3 tier character and now is SSB Vegetto because he got angry.
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>>149689971
Also, the animation is incredibly mediocre. It generally doesn't fall as low as super's worst moments, but there isn't a single episode where they actually go all out and have fluid battles. Every battle is very static with one attack or two, often just beams and then lots of Z-style standing around.

Heck, there's one episode of the Baby Vegeta vs Goku SSJ4 battle where it's basically both fallen beside each other then one tries to get up only to fall. And repeat for the other.
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>>149688848

Give it a chance, anon.

Spoiler:

many of those things they told you are true
>>
Nothing in Super has any weight to it. You can't tell me shit is a million times stronger than stuff in Z but has less weight than shit in the original Dragonball.
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>>149689865

I never thought I'd miss a character this much

and yet there he is

I mean, technically, it was just fucking corrupted Zamasu in Goku's body, but the twists and turns in order to become such actually made Black Goku a legitimately great concept, even if a fucking mess to follow and just shows how far Zamasu can really go

plus he was fucking hot
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>>149690141
>It generally doesn't fall as low as super's worst moments
You should rewatch it. GT is pretty much just Super at its worst just with better stills.
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>>149688860

99% of it. Yeah.
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>>149690184
someone should make a list of all the buzzwords commonly used to argue in db threads like "weight" for example
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>>149689090
The potaras clearly sustained Zamasu fusion though.
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>>149688860

You didn't fix the episode.


You just fixed the few elements that needed to be changed in order to improve it.
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>>149690250
Who is a Kai.
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we could troll toei's tweets tho
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>>149690232
At this point Superfags are the saddest existence on this planet.
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>>149690232
Do we make a bingo?
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>>149689680
They completely ruined Trunks as a character and I say this as a prime Trunks fag.
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>>149689981
>Vegetto did almost all the work.

This I can agree with. It was a extremely short fight, but it definitely made a impact. I think I got too used to DBZ's overtly long battles.

>Trunks deserved the last hit

I just wish it was less jRPG-y, because damn, has the "power of friendship/hope" schtick worn off for me

and asides from the spirit blade thing, combined Zamasu pretty much got a fate similar to Mecha Freeza.
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Wait, I haven't watched it yet, but why did Vegetto unfuse?

I get the feeling it's something really stupid superfags WILL DEFEND. Prove me wrong?
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>>149690566
time limit
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>>149690566
Non-Kaioshin fusions have a time limit of 1h.
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>>149689808
>2. Goku standing a chance against fused Zamasu
zamatsu litteraly stated that goku can surpass a god this is why he wanted his body
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>>149690618
>>149690614
What a load of horseshit. Thanks for the answer.
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>>149689341
He cut him in the way that would hurt him the most.
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>>149690636
Surpassing a god is one thing. Surpassing the fusion of a god as strong as he is, and his own body stronger than he is is absolute twaddle.
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>>149690566
>Prove me wrong?
How can we do that? You'll say it's retarded anyway?
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>>149690731
By either not defending something retarded, or not answering something retarded.

Ship's sailed with your post it seems, thanks for playing.
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>>149690731
Prove me by telling me when the subs are coming out
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>>149690731
This whole arc was retarded anyway, It was never explain whether Trunks was legendary or not
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>>149690948
http://www.daisuki.net/gb/en/anime/watch.DRAGONBALLSUPERFutureTrunks.14859.html
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>>149690684
Could be worse.
It could have been as retarded as Buu.

>why did we defuse?
>lol it's magic, don't gotta explain shit
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>>149691079
>Magic genie magic juju fucking with magic earrings

Makes perfect sense, toeiscum apologist.
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do we know how vegeta got blue yet ?
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>>149691134
How does that make sense in the slightest?
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>>149691187
Yes, via training.
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>>149691227
>Literal primordial magic within magic man of incredible, god dwarfing power interferes with the fusion magic in the earrings

How does it not?
Better than "lol I forgot fusion was permanent" Toei/Tori.
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>>149691322
how did he get the god ki?
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>>149688070
Because DBS is bullshit
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>>149691322
What if vegetto trained? would he be able to get stronger?
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>>149688085
Its a bad trip
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>>149691378
>Better than "lol I forgot fusion was permanent" Toei/Tori.
That's the thing, this retcon fits in perfectly. After all Vegito is the only non-kai fusion in the history of the multiverse and there's no way they would have known what effects it had.
Explains "lol magic gas" too since it had no reason to affect something of godly design.
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>>149691384
By training.

According to DBS you can suddenly get god ki if you train or out of nowhere if you're a popular enough time-traveling character.
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>>149691672
He was exposed to God Ki fighting SSB Vegeta.
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>>149691633
No it doesn't. There's no reason for this retcon, and it just makes the kai look like a fucking idiot. If they needed a time limit, they could have gone with Gogeta. It's a clumsy as fuck asspull for no good narrative reason whatsoever.

>>149691633
>Explains "lol magic gas" too since it had no reason to affect something of godly design
Yeah, a magic reason stronger than said gods can't possibly have an effect on the magic devices they use (that can also be affected by magic dragons), not at all.
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>>149691384
God ki is just a spin on the focused or contolled energy trope. In this case it's internalized ki.
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>>149691672
To be fair Vegeta trained for like 6 months in the very realm of Beerus, under the lead of Whis, and took part in the SSG ritual that could be the key to allow him for unlocking god ki.

Meanwhile Trunks spared with Vegeta once and got angry.
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>>149691719
By that logic Gohan was exposed to god ki with the kais, and so was gotenks with Beerus, and so was just about everyone else.

It's dumb bullshit in a plot so half assed it makes Super 17's blush.
>>
This is literally XY&Z Episode 38 2.0: Electric Boogaloo
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>>149691920
What are you talking about Anon?
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>>149691778
>and it just makes the kai look like a fucking idiot
You do realise you've said that if someone has no knowledge on something that's never occurred before they're completely retarded right?
Literally all they had to go on was the word of Old Kai. Supreme Kai even had to test it.

>they could have gone with Gogeta
except he's not canon and he would have crapped out sooner.
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>>149692024
He's referring to Pokemon
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>>149692025
>except he's not canon and he would have crapped out sooner.
The fusion is canon, he is a canon possibility. And since they were literally pulling mafuba out of their asses, doing the fusion dance would not be a big deal.

>crap out sooner
You say that like the fusion wouldn't last exactly as long as the plot required it to.
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>>149692025
If a god has no understanding of how his magic shit works, especially when he's a fucking victim of it, he's a fucking idiot. Simple as that.
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>>149691824
>It's dumb bullshit in a plot so half assed
Not really you're just a fucking retard
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>>149692071
I haven't watched Pokemon in 15 years.
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>>149688314
Not only. Trunks Masenko, Galick Ho and Final Flash. The Mafuba, Future Trunks return, Arale cameo, MaiXTrunks romance...the list is big

It's just for selling and to bait dumbass fans who overrated Akira and the Dragon Ball rotule
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>>149692220
Why did you reply to my post then if you didn't know what i talking about?
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The fact is that the fusion is supposed to be permanent and it wasnt in the Buu saga and we never really knew why.
But the conversation was kinda sloppy. I would've done it like this.

>Vegeta: No way! I don't want to stay fused forever!
>Gowasu: What are you talking about? The fusion for mortals only lasts for 1 hour.
>Vegeta: What? Kakarot, you told me the fusion is permanent!
>Goku: I was told it was permanent too!
>Gowasu: That's only in the case of Kaiohs.
>Supreme Kai: I didnt know that myself because Im so fucking useless.
>Goku: So it wasn't because of Buu...

Voila.
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>>149692265
It would still be stupid because it's the old kai who told them it was permanent. Young kai is useless.
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>>149692309
Whatever, that doesn't matter.
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>trunks stronger than ssg Vegitto
>trunks magically knows how to do the spirit bomb and fuse his ki with it
>trunks with a broken shit sword is stronger than gods
this shit is worse than naruto for fucks sake end it now
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>>149692265
>>149692309

Also kind of disingenuous to act like the fusion just so happened to run out of time in the moment they lowered their barrier inside buu. What a clumsy retcon.
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>>149692136
>The fusion is canon, he is a canon possibility.
He's not, Vegeta is absolutely opposed to the dance and never learned it.

>You say that like the fusion wouldn't last exactly as long as the plot required it to.
Then you can call it bullshit.

>>149692165
>If a god has no understanding of how his magic shit works
Like I said, they didn't know a thing about non-kai fusions. If I remember right Supreme Kai was also fairly new when Buu happened.
We done now?
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>>149692265
>Vegeta: No way! I don't want to stay fused forever!
>Supreme Kai: I used Dragon Balls to defuse myself.
Voila.
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>>149692351
How so?
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>>149692352
>and never learned it
And trunks literally just learned the Mafuba off a phone video, and Vegeta did a moronic bingo dance because he was afraid of Beerus. Zero reason they couldn't bring the fusion dance out now, it's not like vegeta has any pride left.

>Then you can call it bullshit.
How so? This fusion didn't last an hour or whatever they pretended it was supposed to last. Anime time is not real time.

>Like I said, they didn't know a thing about non-kai fusions.
Retarded. The Old Kai was not new, and he was too retarded to know how his own magic shit worked.
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>>149692344
>his shit is worse than naruto
you spelled jojo wrong
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>>149692413
Because it relies on vegetos first de-fusion being juuuuuuust coincidental with vegeto lowering his barrier inside of buu. Clumsy as shit.
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>>149692344
>>149692457
You both spelled DBGT wrong.
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>>149692423
>and Vegeta did a moronic bingo dance because he was afraid of Beerus.
>because he was afraid of Beerus.
>because he was afraid of Beerus.
>because he was afraid of Beerus.

>How so? This fusion didn't last an hour or whatever they pretended it was supposed to last.
30 minutes is less than an hour. Do the math.

> The Old Kai was not new
>Like I said, they didn't know a thing about non-kai fusions.
Old Kai literally knew nothing.
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