Dragon Ball Super

It's GOHAN

mafuba drrr

>>149639541
>He just had the Zeno button all this time
>Didn't get pressed by axxident

How?

>>149639817
Very tough button, hard to press anon

>>149639817
Wanting to defeat foes with his own hands, duh

>>149639817
it can only be pressed by angel hands

>>149639817
>Goku pushes the button
>Cliffhanger
EVERY FUCKING TIME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Reminder that the manga is basically Toyble OC with minimal Toriyama supervision, and that he also considers the anime a continuation of his manga:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

Interviewer:
> So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!

Toriyama:
> Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?

Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

Interviewer:
> Between getting the outline and the final phase, what is the most difficult part of making the manga?

Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/01/dragon-ball-super-complete-showcase-event-reveals-series-plot/

Toriyama (After the DBS anime announcement):
> “Dragon Ball Super is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc."
> "You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"

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>You will never make love to Nozawa
>You will never pound her granny pussy until you pass out
>You will never hear her say "Ossu! Ora Goku!" with every thrust

>>149641479
>Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!

Amazing how you conveniently skipped

>What I receive from Toriyama is literally words on paper, without drawings or anything. So when I'm reading it, I have to fill in the blanks as far as the specifics are concerned. I think of what kinds of expressions the characters wear, which way they're looking when they say a certain line. Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see.

The part you skipped completely changes the implication of that statement. He's talking about changing Toriyama's words to a visual medium, not making up story stuff.

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>>149639541
So Vegetto defuses after one battle again?

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Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking

>>149641520
I didn't skip anything retard

What you posted is the skeleton draft Toriyama gives to BOTH Toei and Toyble

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>>149641584
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!

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>>149641337
hi

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>>149639541
Faggots. Trunksfags are faggots, and so is their "special" little medicine boy. Let's count off the bullshit that HE GETS, FOR SIMPLY BEING "HANDSOME"

>His own arc
>Two if you count the initial android arc leading up to cell
>Special snowflake sword fighting style
>Special snowflake super saiyan hair design (also the only saiyan with non-black hair)
>Special snowflake le time traveling boy
>So mysterious, so dangerous
>Has a kill on every villain he has ever encountered. Trunks HAS to get the finishing blow!
>Free virgin de-aged loyal Chinese old hag waifu, on the house
>Has two fucking versions of himself in the anime (present and future)
>Fucking major character in all the games
>Whole websites dedicated to him, literal whole websites
>Most fanart, merchandise, and promotional material
>Bullshit power-ups at every chance they can give him one, ever since his introduction
>Power that matches the other saiyans with not even a fraction of their screen time
>Now fucking exceeds Mystic Gohan massively even though Gohan has been getting development and screen time since the BEGINNING OF DBZ
>No one hates him, everyone's top 5 character list has Trunks in it. Nope can't hate Trunks he's just too cool.
>Toriyama made sure to make his family the RICHEST IN THE WORLD
>Oh no that's not enough, also make his family the SMARTEST IN THE WORLD
>He even gets his own fucking fusion fodder character created (Just for him), Goten, who is literally shafted in and out of the show whenever Trunks may or may not need him

What a privileged little shit him and his fanbase are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSCTYFNiNA

See this shit? See this absolute fucking cancer that he produces? Videos dedicated solely to Trunks's "personality" on YouTube that have more views than people I have ever met in my fucking life. It's not fair. Gohan deserves much more than he has ever received, yet he's fucking irrelevant now because apparently Trunks is just so much more "likable".

>>149641545
Fuck I hope he doesn't. There was so much potential...why?

>>149641663
Because Bra needs to be conceived by ONLY Vegeta

>>149641584
>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking

i wonder if that kart game was toriyama's idea.

>>149641698
Got more?

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>>149641698

>>149641734
It wasn't because it wasn't in the anime.
Only content shared by both the anime and manga exist in Toriyama's drafts.

The Kart thing was exclusive to the manga, and thus Toyble OC

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>>149641545
He better be, he's still a ningen and a ningen shouldn't use things like the Potara.

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>>149641762

>>149641592
>I didn't skip anything retard
That's clearly wrong retard >>149641520

>>149641637
>Bullshit power-ups at every chance they can give him one, ever since his introduction
That's every Saiyan in dragonball though.

>Power that matches the other saiyans with not even a fraction of their screen time
Pff, kid Goten and Trunks want a word with you. They have little to no training and are still children, but are able to go super saiyan, fuse, and are able to go SSJ3 while fused. The only reason why they don't have god ki yet is because Toriyama has no fucking idea what to do with these characters. He made them overpowered so they wouldn't be overshadowed by the rest of the cast, and then proceeds to do FUCKING NOTHING with them.

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Gohan WILL come back into the show
Gohan WILL start training again
Gohan WILL become stronger than everyone else
Gohan WILL get a new form that is higher than super saiyan blue

Just you wait faggots. We'll see who calls who "cuck" then.

>>149641545
Because SSB Vegito is on the same powerlevel as Zen-Chan

When Goku beats the Omni King, the franchise can finally end, right?

>>149641885
>gohanfags will never not be BTFO

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>>149641885
>Implying he'd pass this up for fighting like some kind of philistine.

>>149641896
Ask Dragon Room, anon. No.

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>>149641734
Maybe, Toriyama seems to be giving Toyotaro more input than Toei.

Gowasu explains that the first parallel world, and the resulting Time Ring, was created via a time machine made by a human/mortal from an advanced civilization in Universe 12. Also Whis referencing a bird from his homeplanet.

>>149641840
Does Blue Launch love Tien?

>>149639541
I really hope the Vegito unfusing bit is fake spoilers, WHY ARE THEY SQUANDERING SUCH A COOL OPPORTUNITY? Why don't they let him stay fused at least till the battles over?

>>149641847
Learn to read

The manga isn't special for getting scripts. Toei gets the same script, but they both interpret it in their own way

>>149642050
>inb4 the reason for launch's absence is that she's been hiding at tien's place since forever because she robbed the bank of 10 billion zeni's just before the world was ending, and after she heard that krillin was a cop she CERTAINLY stayed the fuck away from all z fighters except tien

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>>149642236
>Toei gets the same script
>but they both interpret it in their own way
No shit retard.

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so did he win?

>>149639541
>vegito unfused by asspull, no vegito SoL episodes
>trunks powerup yet again and takes the spotlight
>zeno button end
even shittier end to this arc than I imagined. bravo toei.

>>149642617
I loved this arc until Zamasu fusion
Toei literally can't stop srewing up

>>149642465
more like we lost by watching super

>>149640975
Still here?

>>149642617
I hope the manga handles Zamasu/black shenanigans better.

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>>149641637
>It's not fair. Gohan deserves much more than he has ever received, yet he's fucking irrelevant now because apparently Trunks is just so much more "likable".

Maybe if he kept the sword, he'd have been more relevant.

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>>149642617
What is it with you autists and SOL? Those episodes are garbage
>lol goku is retarded
>lol isnt it funny how these gods love japanese food
>lol vegeta is uptight
>lol bulma is a slut
>lol gohan is a nerd
>lol these guys are so powerful but they're living normal lives isnt that hilarious
literally the same shit "jokes" every episode

>>149642723
this.

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>>149641507

Thanks, I needed to vomit.

Why isn't Krillin more relevant? He needs a power boost badly.

SSJG4 Zeno Blessed Vegito when?

>>149642833
I want a mystery saga. Some kai gets murdered, and it's past the 3 minute time reverse of Whis, so they put Detective Krillin on the case.

>>149641507
Over the line.

>>149642851
this saga is over now can't you see?

>>149642767
>I hope the manga handles______better.
It always does

>>149641479
You are a fucking retard shill shitposter and should kill yourself promptly.

>>149641891
>Vegitofags believe this

>>149642787
This, Toei's SOL is crap, only faggots like that shit.

>>149642787
gohanfags know that SoL is the only time they get to see their shitty character

I am the original Gogetacuck, the one who apparently coined "Cuckgito" and what the fuck happened last thread. I've been at work without my phone all day and that is probably the most autistic Super thread I've seen thus far. And I've sperged out in many a thread.

>>149643073
fuck you faggot, now every thread is full of "cuckgito" "cuckhan" "gogecuck", I hope you're happy

>>149643101
"Cuck" has been thrown about as liberally as "job" for a long ass time now, starting with "Cuckhan".

>>149642787
we just want to see interactions between vegetto his girls, its just one fucking episode, is that too much? you are so butthurt about nothing, fuck you

>>149643198
this is literal autism you fucking faggot, go read Multiverse if you want retarded shit

>>149643272
>Trunksfag detected

Can't let anything get in the way of jerking off to your faggot shit writing Gary Stu, can you anon?

>>149643272
>i watch super for plot
>i watch super for good characters
>i watch super for good fights
>sol in super? kill it with fire
lmao

>>149643157

To be fair, job is justified because Vegeta and Goku haven't won a real fight (and still continue to not) since the end of DBZ.

>>149643372
Goku won against jelly Vegetable.

to be desu lads, I used to be a huge Trunksfag, but his bullshit status this arc has been absurd
I can't fuck with writing this bad. It's head-and-shoulders above Dragonball's usual level of somewhat affable retardation.

>>149643443
trunks killed jelly

>>149643372
Vegeta
>Frost,Magetta and Cabba

Goku
>Botamo

Also learn what job means dumbass

>>149643499

>haven't won a real fight

wow, they can beat a bunch of weaklings, so fucking impressive.

>literally zero vegito interaction with other characters
dropped

>>149643499
goku lost to satan

>>149643552
>>149643552
>wow, they can beat a bunch of weaklings, so fucking impressive.
and? Your statement is still wrong.

>>149643613

it's not, cause I wouldn't call those real fights.

that's like saying Floyd Mayweather beating up a toddler is a real fight because it's in a ring and he got paid to do so.

>>149643597
How do you know he won't?

>>149643465
Seriously what the fuck is up with Cunks' bullshit Mary Sue writing? They're one step away from explaining it as "Well obviously his power level is that high, the plot demanded that. Duh."

Unless that one fucking retard from last thread wants to start spouting headcanon about half-breeds being confirmed as stronger than full Saiyans, I want to tell him he's retarded again

>>149643668
>cause I wouldn't call those real fights.
Well then you're retarded.

>>149643668
>not real fights
The fight against Magetta was arguably a legit fight, Vegeta had to try. But if you want to use that logic, Hit vs Goku wasn't a real fight either because it was a tournament. So Goku didn't job even though he lost that fight.

Also I'm pretty sure Mayweather would still prance around the ring and feather-tap even if he was fighting a toddler

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>>149643677
>"new weakness"
>summary talks "Goku this week"

>>149643682
The validation I guess is that he is a very popular character, returning from an absence, so they're making the most of it.
But they could at least try and validate it in the plot. Zamasu and Black should be batting eyelids and laughing at him, not him getting god-tier power-ups because "dude angry bro".
Gohan's entire character in Z was P O T E N T I A L and he was never this lazily written.

>>149643552
A fight is a fight, faggot.

>>149643861
I never minded Gohan's whole "potential" thing other than a couple retarded instances, and even then they sort of made sense. Like when Gohan briefly kicks the dogshit out of second form Frieza, obviously Frieza was off-guard and not taking shit seriously. Trunks getting pissed and being able to go toe-to-toe with Black and Zamasu simultaneously is just fucking retarded. The power gap should be way too huge for any kind of rage boost to matter unless it's horribly written, as it was.

>>149643765
I'm hoping this is false, I will shed tears of blood if all of this is true...
I want Vegito to live longer...I want him to not defuse

>>149643982
Vegito is going to job.

Vegitofags are now BTFO as bad as Gohanfags.

Okay maybe not that hard.

>>149643861
It is validated in the plot.

It's just all validated 'offscreen'.

Implied training, implied training under the Future Kaioshin and implied zenkai boosts from the Future Buu saga and the who knows how many times Trunks got his shit kicked in by Goku Black - nevermind that we never saw a half Saiyan that's probably 25-30 years old that never stopped training (IIRC Gohan in Super is just barely over 20 years old).

None of this shit is explained, and seeing how everything in DB is explained at least once, it just feels wrong, rushed and plotholey.

It's the kind of shit you'd expect in a deep seinen story with BIG FAT LORE, not in a joke-and-punch shonen story.

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>>149644040
>Vegitofags are now BTFO as bad as Gohanfags

>>149644129
It's okay Vegitocuck. Now you know how Gogetafags feel. We share your pain.

>Goku's voice actor is 80 years old

What is Dragonball going to do when she dies?

>>149644231
Did King Kai's VA die btw?

>>149644231
Die with her

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I can't wait for you fags to start acting like it was the loud minority getting mad when it's revealed that Trunks defeats Godmasu with a surprise attack while Vegito is distracting him

>>149644268
Roshi's died, just get a new actor f Goku died, preferably a man with balls or schemmel learning Japanese.

>>149639541
My dad works at Nintendo and he said that summary is fake.

>>149644389
Get the fuck out of here right now and then kill yourself.

>>149644368
If Trunks is the one to win somehow I'll bitch about how shitty Super is and rage about how I'm dropping it then return the following week to continue watching it like nothing ever happened.

Just like every other faggot on here.

If god forbid the son family granny died who would you want as her replacement for Goku, Gohan and Goten?
hard mode: they all need to have the same seiyuu.

>>149644231
sean schemmel will learn japanese and take her place

>>149644487
>Liking grandma Goku
I bet you like the TFS voice for Goku, speaking of TFS, watched some of their DBZ sagas let's play, absolute cancer.

>>149644526
Just use Luffy/Krillin's VA and get another voice for Krillin.

>>149644547
I like those guys but I couldn't deal with their Bloodborne playthrough or fallout 4, they're too goddamn loud and grating.

>>149644547
I don't like Grandma Goku, I just hate you and want you to fucking die.

>responding to a trip fag

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>>149644124
dude stop, you cant validate power level in super, they are super retarded
>goku on par with black and zamasu
>trunks on par with them too nevermaind hes only ssj2 and goku is blue
>lol rage
>trunks holding back blamasus death ball
all of his offscreen training is shit worth too, goku was training with beerus and whis, on top of that since trunks first time came back in super all of them, trunks, vego and goku had the same amount of zenkai, this is all retarded if you think this is ok for a dbz that youre not a db fan, you are just blind sheep that eats shit

>>149644599
I don't like it when one of them starts singing and then they all join in or when they talk about their high school drama class days. Take it from me from personal experience, drama and musical fags are all loud and annoying cunts.

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Do you hate this Grandma as Goku, /a/?

Zamasu is now Voldemort?

>>149644773
Yeah, i'm a faggot

WHat happens when Toriyama dies?

>>149644368
>dbs 1000th on mal
>leaks about trunks
>dbz 100000th on mal

>>149644814
we'll finally be free from this fucking nightmare
fuck you toei

So is cuck a phase or is it the new geek or loser? Do kids call each other cucks in school?

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>>149644773
I don't hate her, but I prefer her Schemmel if I have to be honest.
She is absolutely perfect as Black and Schemmel or anyone for that matter will outperform her as him.

>>149644878
Shut the cuck up you cucking mothercucker.

>>149644856
Doesn't Warner Bros own the rights to DBZ in America? Cuz I know they did DBZ evolution, speaking of that, I have a yellow text about when I saw it in theatres if y'all, are interested...

>>149644856
>we'll never get to see Dragon Ball animated by some competent studio
I wonder how things would've gone if Toriyama had made the deal with another studio.

>>149644910
Yeah she's great but still to this day Dragonball is one of the few things I prefer the dub of, it might be the only thing come to think.

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>>149644856
Anon...

>>149639541
>FML
Please don't do this.

>>149644920
Fox did Evolution.

>>149644124
That's still pretty flimsy validation to attain a god-level power-boost that Goku and Vegeta had to work directly under an angel for.
How did he randomly get a loose grasp, much less a partial mastery over god ki? Is there a bleed effect? If you're exposed to it for long enough, can you kind of harness it in some rudimentary sense?
It's just too spotty and full of leaps for me to buy it as anything other than "he needs to because he's super cool sword man for the tweens and it's for the plot bro"

>>149644856
Fuck off, retarded

>>149644954
Same thing basically

>>149644914
Cuck you, you cucksucker.

>>149644669
Just because a character participates in a battle doesn't mean he has the same power level as all other characters.

Krillin, Gohan and Yajirobe had a meaningful contribution in the fight against Vegeta even if they had fuckall for a power level compared to Goku and Vegeta.

Fuck off and go kill yourself, retarded spic.

>>149644972
:(

Wait you can't be fucking serious there was a LITERAL Zeno button they had?

I've just been kinda lurking these threads I thought hitting the Zeno button was a metaphor

>>149644991
Yajirobe? The fuck is that? What's his power level, Namekians or Saiyan?

>>149644963
No one said Trunks had a god-level power-boost.

There's no indication that Trunks had a god-level power-boost.

We only know that Trunks developed a state in SSj2 that is more powerful than any SSj2 state we've seen so far.

It's not good enough to take on Goku Black, but it's enough to take on Future Zamasu, since all Future Zamasu is is an invincible Zamasu.

>>149644981
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>>149645017
Have you even watched the show, Zeno summoned Goku to his home to literally give him a button that would make him instantly teleport to Goku.

>>149645065
How clever and original, 10/10 ya dingus.

>>149644991
Trunks hasn't "participated in the battle" Trunks has literally been fucking fighting on par with opponents who can outmatch SSB Vegeta and Goku you goddamn fucking autist. Kill yourself.

JP Goku's voice isn't that bad.

>>149645084
Nah man I've been thinking of getting into Super cause it's Dragonball but it seems silly.

A button that summons the one hit kill guy... yeah that's a bit silly.

>>149645110
Have you heard her screams?

Gogeta is way cooler

>>149645048
>No one said Trunks had a god-level power-boost.

He held off Black after going special snowflake saiyan 2: blue edition. Can't beat, but can deter, which is stupid, since he should be nowhere near.
And Zamasu's not a pussy. Judging by how he's not entirely useless in a fight against SSB, and capable of harming them, he's a threat above any other Saiyan form, and Trunks can beat him now.
So the power-jump is still way too stupid.

>>149645100
No he hasn't.

>powers up
>fights for a while if either Goku or Vegeta get pushed back
>retreats when he gets hit too hard, or when Goku or Vegeta jump in

Keep trying though. You're a funny guy.

People have been complaing on Merged Zamasu not capable of 1 shotting the Saiyan Trio.

When u had Frieza not capable of killing Piccolo back in Namek, Base Vegeta not getting 1 shotted vs Kid Buu(this one is the biggest BS in Z).

>>149645209
So? Tien held off Semi-Perfect Cell.

Regular Cell kept Piccolo at bay.

You can keep much stronger enemies under control if you fight smart, that has existed in DB since forever.

Which DBZ character has the most boogers/picks the biggest ones?

>>149644773
I don't hate her. She's an incredible talent.

>>149645215
>I haven't been watching Super
>I've been reading summaries and listening to everyone in the threads
>y-you're so funny troll xD

>>149645272
He hasn't fought smart. He's just gone toe-to-toe.
Tien fought smart because putting his life on the line in crazy clever gambits is his shit.
I can't remember the regular Cell keeping Piccolo at bay specifically.

>>149645336
If you don't even remember the Cell saga, you should shut the fuck up talking as if you know what you're talking about.

Go back playing Xenoverse or whatever, faggot.

>>149645376
I bet you think Cell is the best villain you fucking retard.

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>>149645376
>if you don't remember one specific fight in a 200+ episode series that started two decades ago you can't talk on a matter that I myself am blatantly twisting the facts due to my personal bias on
>despite the fact that you, in the same post, showed that you remembered a different fight from that exact same saga

>The end of the Black arc is Goku hitting a literal button
Fuck this show, fuck Toei, fuck Toriyama, and fuck you

>>149645449
Cell using his Solar Flare on regular Cell is a far more pivotal point in the story than Tien holding back Semi-Perfect Cell, since if Piccolo had known Cell was using Solar Flare the Cell saga had ended right there. Piccolo was ready to kill Cell in a single hit.

>>149645439
Best villain narrative wise is Frieza. Best villain in terms of story structure is Buu (with the climactic fight halfway through instead of at the end - very daringly written).

>>149645533
That moment I wonder what DBZ would have been like if it ended at Frieza.

>>149645533
Frieza?

what's with the sudden tripfaggotry?

>>149645665
I bet he's a Cuckgitofag

>>149639541
in b4 lolspiritbomb

>>149645609
Lots of people say "It should have ended at the Saiyan saga" or "It should have ended at the Frieza saga".

I don't give a shit.

DB isn't a deep and complex story. It's gags, fighting and bloodpumping action. It doesn't need a good ending. It can run forever. All that matters is that every saga is unique. So far, I'm satisfied despite watching this garbage for the last what... 18 years?

Good enough for me.

>>149645499
Are you really surprised? They wrote themselves into that hall the minute they made Zamasu immortal

>>149645609
If it ended there, Dragon Ball would be forgotten and overshadowed by other shounens.

>>149645696
Vegettofags know better. He's probably a Gokufag.

>>149645533
See, clever usage of Solar Flare in an unwitting opponent not fully privy to the threat you pose is much better than "GRRR IM ANGRY PUNCH U REAL GOOD"
Trunks is shit however you spin it. Only a 14 year old Japanese boy with a foam longsword would think otherwise.

Posted this last thread, but for any retard saying Vegetto jobs remember this
>he's shown dominating Zamasu in the preview
>says attacks are now working
>will blow him the fuck out
>Trunks will get the last shot in for symbolism bullshit
>Zamasus body is now defeated but since he's immortal he instead becomes a gas cloud or something
>this affects the atmosphere and causes Vegito to split like Buu did
>then Goku finds the button since how the hell are they supposed to defeat immortal air

>>149645736
I use a trip elsewhere and I'm a Vegetto-fag

>All this Vegito hype
>He lasts, at most, an episode and a half
>Trunks still destroys Zamasu's body
Why not have Trunks get another power-up if they were just gonna waste Vegito?

>>149645814
Cuckgito is going to job regardless, just like he did against Buu.

Faggot.

>>149641663
Maybe because Vegetto is overkill? Although I would like to see one or two of those episodes between arcs of everyday life of Vegetto.

>>149645899
They know Vegetto is guaranteed views.

>>149645950
Nice use of buzzwords, epic, I like it.

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I am sorry Gohanfags

>>149645950
>just like Gogeta did against Omega Shenron

>>149645899
Whoever makes the previews probably knows that, by now, most viewers are getting really fucking tired of Future Trunks' Mary Sue bullshit.

>>149645964
Buzzword has become a buzzword you massive hypocrite.

Just accept that they brought Vegito back just to fuck him over like the shit fusion that he is

I'm actually a Krillin fanboy so ha.

>>149646004
Go watch Fusion Reborn again, kid. I liked Gogeta too but you need to come to terms with this already.

>>149645983
>Not canon

Also not jobbing because his time limit ran out. It'd be like getting pulled away from a fight where you're beating the shit out of someone because you have to piss violently, then you return and realize your opponent has vanished.

>>149646004
You're just salty that they brought Vegetto back instead of canonizing Gogeta. You're pitiful.

>>149645996
So the best solution is to make him stronger than fucking Vegito.

>>149646027
You mean the only instance where a fusion actually won?

Which fusion was that again? Oh right it was fucking Gogeta.

>>149646004
>Buzzword has become a buzzword
Nice meme retard.

>>149646026
I met Sonny Straight once, and my friend tried explaining to him that he's a fan of Krillin.
Sonny just looked at him weird and laughed.

>>149645996

Not really, u think he is like Erza from FT.

Unlike Erza, Trunks has shown character growth in this Arc, otherwise she wouldve turned into a male Erza.

Besides, Power of Rage has become DBS version of Nakama power according to Gowasu.

It all started when Vegeta got his rage boost in the BoG Arc.

>>149646038
If all they were going to do was make Cuckgito return only to fuck him over (HA) I'm glad they left Gogeta out. I suppose they figured he should get better treatment than that after the massively positive reception of his role in Fusion Reborn

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>>149646033
Yeah, you apply logic to that but can't apply logic to the fact that Vegetto planned for the absorption to take place in order to save Piccolo and the kids.

You've been angry over this for a whole week, and all your tears are good for is a lubricant, if that.

>>149646077
>being this retarded
Why haven't you necked yourself?

>>149646054
Good storytelling isn't on any resumes for people who work on the Dragon Ball franchise.
I was excited to see F Trunks back way back in the beginning of this arc, but after this arc, I hope he never comes back.
This level of bullshit almost makes Kid Trunks a better character than him.

Is Zamasu the strongest Dragon Ball villain ever?
>Goku has to summon fucking God to take him out

>>149646054

Or he would be capable of destroying Zamasus body because Vegetto fucked up Merged Zamasu so badly Trunks can now damage him?

Like how Yajirobe could damage Vegeta back in the Saiyan Saga

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>>149639541
>Just as all hope seems lost, Goku finds something in his pocket...

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>>149646115
Gogeta would have made more sense considering how far they're going to make sure the fusion for Vegetto ends early. But he's still going to mop the floor with Zamasu. Maybe someone at Toei actually cares for you triggered Gogetafags.

>>149646122
>Vegetto planned for the absorption to take place in order to save Piccolo and the kids.

Pointlessly. The Namekian Dragon Balls exist.

>>149646165

Whats ironic is that if Gohan or Piccolo were in Trunks place it would been the same outcome and claim they got "bullshit" powerups.

>>149646208
He is until the next arc starts and Zamusa seems insignificant to the next villain.

>>149646241
>But he's still going to mop the floor with Zamasu.

Except the summaries state that he jobs. Jobgito.

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>>149646224
Wait... wait, you don't think it's referring to THAT do you?

...No way, wow who'd have thought.

>>149646208
If you count Beerus as a villain, then no

>>149646298
>>Except the summaries state that he jobs. Jobgito.
I know this is the new DBS thread meme, but come on, that's really bad bait.

Leaked conclusion to the Zamasu fight
https://youtu.be/8CJ2Yj3et_Y

>>149646342
>I haven't read the summaries
OR
>I am in massive denial

Pick one, Vegitoshill

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Oh god.
I love it. I fucking LOVE IT'

You idiots thought this shit was going to end with Vegito beating up this moron?
You guys seriously didn't see this coming? You didn't think that it'd end without them defusing and having Goku be the one to ultimately save the day?

The best part is that this is the same thing they did for GT. Almost part for part. This is GT's final battle, repackaged. He's literally going to pull some shit right out of his asshole.

You guys thought Super was going to be good?
Guess again, buddies.

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>>149641816
Just remember, avoid conversation with the ningen. The ningen will lie, the ningen will make excuses. He will use words that he don't really know.

>>149646459
>>I haven't read the summaries
I have. All we know is
>Vegito somehow defused
>Trunks attacked Zamasu
>Zamasu "should be" defeated but now simply has no body

The preview didn't say "with Vegito knocked the fuck out, what hope do they have now". Why am I taking this bait.

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>>149646459
>Vegetto beats the twink so badly that he loses his body
>H-he jobbed, c-cuck!!

Go watch GT again.

>>149646257
unlike your brain

>>149646485
Duh.

>>149646506
>Vegito somehow defused

AKA Vegito. FUCKING. JOBS.

>>149646524
Denial. Salty, salty denial. I can't fucking wait until I'm proved right. Some screencap all of this stupidity so I can gloat later. I'm going to fucking laugh at all of you.

>>149646544
You just admitted my point while hiding your admission behind an insult. Fucking priceless.

>>149646613
no, i just proved you have no brain

>>149646638
You did nothing but prove me right Vegito cucklet.

>>149646613
>beating someone's ass so badly they don't have a physical form is jobbing.

This is embarrassing, anon. Tell you what, if Vegetto does get his ass handed to him like his name was Gogeta, I'll laugh right along with you.

Now, I'll grant you the Namekian Dragon Balls bit, (I'm that guy, not >>149646544 >>149646638) but Toriyama forgets so much shit that it doesn't matter too much.

>>149646700
you have no brain and you just proved it yourself too

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>>149646448
What am I watching.

Also...
>Black terrified of Zeno
>Zeno fuses with Goku
>Black talking big again

Shouldn't they be stronger and scarier in that form?

I'd like to hope there's a twist regarding Zeno's head and if it's actually a dumb mask/helmet he wears for fun, hiding whatever he really looks like.

Either way all of that was stupid, but fascinating.

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>>149641479
>Toriyama (After the DBS anime announcement):
>> “Dragon Ball Super is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc."
>> "You know, it suddenly occurs to me that somewhere along the line the Dragon Ball anime has become quite a huge story. Please be sure to watch Dragon Ball Super on TV!"

>uses a quotation from before the show even aired to back up his claims.
KEK

>>149646744
>Zeno starts training Goku because he's bored
>dumbs himself down and teaches him crazy God Ki mastery
>eventually Zeno takes off his mask
>It's Master Roshi
>he was Roshi all along

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>>149646810
>complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc
>no bra
>no uub

>>149646718
>get his ass handed to him like his name was Gogeta

This never happened you bitch. First time Gogeta wrecked, second time Gogeta wrecked and time ran out. He never even had to fucking struggle unlike Cuckgito.

>>149646733
Keep trying, cuckboy.

>Toriyama being predictable
>Again

My brother called this shit out centuries ago. What else could that button possibly be for?

shit nigga unless you happen to have a really forgetful mind (such as myself), if you have decent memory, anyone would have pieced this together

because Goku wouldn't hold on to that button THAT long when the little shit literally said he could press the button at any given time and he'd always come

>>149646868
>more responses without using brain
oh wait

>>149646856
Continuation of means it chronologically follows. Not all characters have to be maintained.
Uub is shit

>>149646856
Uub didn't show up until after the timeskip when Trunks/Goten are like 16-18.

Bra, I have no idea what the deal is with her, but I thought she was about Pan's age so maybe Bulma is already pregnant.

What exactly is going on in super?

>>149642465
Nope. He lost. Trunks seems to have done something to Zamasu after Vegetto got BTFO.

>>149646868
Vegetto struggled, yeah. At NOT killing his opponent. Meanwhile, Gogeta landed his strongest move on Omega Shenron after playing around and it didn't do the job.

You're lucky you don't live nearby, your tears would ensure my erection always stays wet.

>>149646917
so bra confirmed?

>>149646895
>more non-arguments
Oh wait.

>>149646962
Vegito had to try, hard, to not let Buu destroy the universe by screaming. Because he fucked around too much like a retarded faggot. Further, when he used his barrier while Buu was absorbing him, he wasn't even entirely confident it would work.

BTFO

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>>149646927
THE ONE will provide Bulma his seed

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>>149641479
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

>>149647028
my arguments are bigger than your brain

>>149647028
>destroy the universe by screaming.

Anime-only. But wait, I know how this one's gonna go.

>M-mangafags!!

Makes sense that you'd try to use something that's non-canon as part of your argument.

>>149646967
So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
Toyotarō:
T-That’s so much pressure… (sweat). But I think it’ll be really cool to help Dragon Ball someday reach its final chapter.

Toriyama:
Oh, that’s good! People will go “Wow, Toriyama-sensei planned it all out from the beginning!” and I’ll look really cool (laughs).

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

Anyone have action figures or any other type of merch?

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Post GOAT characters.

>>149647028
Actually ge didn't try hard. Vegito was just very concerned. Vegeta's tactical awareness in combination with Goku's goodness results in a Vegito that is very concerned with the wellbeing of the planet/solar system/galaxy/universe.

>>149647087
You just keep bleating nonsense, cuckmaster.

>>149647101
>Makes sense that you'd try to use something that's non-canon as part of your argument.

Just like you, retard. It's also cute that you ignored the latter half of that sentence because it directly contradicts your "argument".

Vegitocucks will do anything to avoid admitting their shitty fusion isn't the best goddamn thing ever. I can't decide whether I hate you or Trunksfags more. I'd rather go out for drinks with a bunch of Gohanfags.

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>Black confirmed as the strongest non-fused fighter outside of Beerus
VEGETAKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH!

>>149647174
what nonsense? you having no brain is a know fact

>>149647162
He absolutely had to get serious in order to stop Buu from nuking the universe and saying anything to the contrary is proof of your denial.

Vegito was stronger than Buu, but it wasn't an effortless "victory"

>>149647186
Whis, Hit, Zeno, High Priest, Champa, Vados.

>>149647192
Whatever you say, Vegito cuckmaster denialfag.

>>149647186
Well he is a filthy cheater.

>beerus changes bodies with goku
>infinite HAKAIIIIII~ potential

>>149647174
Vegetto gambled with the barrier, which is a combination of Goku and Vegeta's tactics. He wasn't sure, but he wanted to see to the well-being of his loved ones himself, instead of deferring that to some dragon.

Vegetto is handsome, powerful, intelligent, and compassionate as fuck. Gogeta may very well have been all of these things too, had GT not gotten to him.

Do keep on crying.

>>149647232
i dont have to say anything, everyone knows you have no brain

>>149647252
Vegetto gambled with the barrier, which is a combination of Goku and Vegeta's tactics.

I suppose I can concede this point.

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>>149647155
No matter how hard this Gogetafag tries, he'll never ruin Fusion Reborn Gogeta. Vegetto is better, but Gogeta is pretty cool.

>>149647252
SSJ4 Gogeta had the same personality as Vegito.
That furry asshole is just a reskinned Vegito.

>>149647237
>Beerus in Goku's body
You know what I'd kind of like to see that, would he go SSJ Purple?

>>149646871
Zen-o will fail to destroy Zamasu due to his immortality, and then it'll be finished with the Mafuba, with them getting a seal from somewhere (possibly future Roshi).

The first spoilers that mentioned Vegeto also said that the gourd would be important, so I'm pretty confident on this.

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>>149647186
Why is he so cool bros?

>>149647209
Getting serious is very different from working hard - it wasn't like Goku's grueling kaioken struggle against Vegeta - THAT is working hard. After all he was working hard on making Super Buu angry. Buu's little tantrum delayed Vegito's plans.

>>149647280
Suck that Vegito cock, you faggot. Suck it.

>>149647313
No, anon. He was a watered down Vegetto that didn't have nearly as much finesse as Vegetto. Just a complete clown. You know, I think I'm starting to see why you're so fond of the character.

>>149647210
He was obviously talking about Beerus and those directly below.

>>149647295
>Vegetto is better
No.

>>149647342
Gogeta has never once needed to get serious.

>>149647361
Not that anon, but he absolutely was a Cuckgito clone.

>>149647361
>Express displeasure with a character
>"well, I guess that's why you like him."
M12 Gogeta and GT Gogeta are completely different characters.

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>>149647386
He was serious from the start against Janemba.

>>149647386
No.

Yes. Just look at him.

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>>149647319
He just is.

>>149647441
Because he is a serious character you tard fuck. Christ.

>>149647386
Because he only showed up at the end of a one hour movie with hardly 2 minutes screen time.

>hi imma gogeta
>charges janemba
>invisible punches
>kick
>stardust breaker
>gogeta looking cool at the lil demon boy
>the end

>>149647494
Accomplished more than Vecuckto ever did.

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>>149647488
>Gogeta has never once needed to get serious.
>given an example of a time he got serious
>H-He's a serious character!

>>149647521
His attitude is serious. He didn't need to fight seriously.

Do you seriously need that spelled out for you you goddamn fucking moron?

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>still responding to that retard
>after all these days
>the same baits
>the same responses
>every single thread

>>149647590
It's not my fault you fucking dumbasses refuse to accept my viewpoint.

>>149646448
>mario from nowhere

goddam lol

>>149647618
It is your fault that you keep replying and can't help yourself.

>>149647521
He was obviously talking about personality, you goddamn retard.

>>149647618
at least you realize you are that retarded one

>>149647635
You're all just fucking fanboys, you know.

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If Saiyans have no limits then how can they have a "full" power?

>>149647667
Aren't you?

>>149647667
I'm not even involved in the Vegito discussion, it makes no difference to me, I'm just pointing out that it's kind of your problem.

He is pretty great though.

>>149647683
Their current full power

>>149647714
So then they do have limits.

>>149647693
I just hate fucking Vegito.

>>149647701
Leave while you still can

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So what's Vegito's weakness gonna be?
>too much god ki for a ningen body
>potara isn't 100% because they've already used them before
>zama2 pulls some extradimensional fuckery like black did with his scythe

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>>149647701
Super great.

>>149647725
yes but these limits have no limits

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>>149647458

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>>149647730
Rein in your autism and you'll never have to come in direction contact with the so-called Vegettofags. Just post Gogeta and shut the fuck up.

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>>149647730

>>149647733
He's Vegicuck.

>>149647733
zamasu is gonna summon shenron and wish vegetto split

>>149647765
>direction
direct

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>>149647752

>>149647765
If I post Gogeta all the fucking Vegitocucks sperg the fuck out about how he's so much better hurr hurr.

>>149647771
ayy lmao

>>149647782
More like "Vegetto cucked us Gogetafags out of ever having him be canon."

>>149647821
>If I post Gogeta all the fucking Vegitocucks sperg the fuck out about how he's so much better hurr hurr.

Whose fault is that? Yours for acting like an autist to begin with. Nobody would give a shit otherwise. Now whip out your folder and post Gogeta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQAfdeffrvM

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>Vegetto unfuse
>Zeno button will actually be pressed
>Trunks' glowing sword will be powered by friendship
I want off this ride.

>>149647842
Honestly I feel like if they'd made Gogeta canon he'd get cucked just as hard as Vegito.

Still pisses me off though. Vegito had his fucking canon moment. Fuck him.

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>>149647753
We posting Blacks now?

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>>149647875
This should have fucking happened

Trunks should heroically die to repent for his horrific Deviantart OC Sue-tier writing this arc.
His broken sword should be passed to main-line Trunks who frames it and surpasses Cuckhan as the superior half-Saiyan son.

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can super become even worse?

>>149647999
Yes, and it probably will. The current arc is shit, but it's the best the show's ever been.

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>>149647999
Beerus will save the series, you'll see.

>>149647913
No it shouldn't because the fusion dance is a comedy bit best left for Gotenks hijinks.
The potara were on-hand, so utilize the vastly more powerful, vastly more popular fusion.

>>149648023
someone who ruined the series CANNOT save it

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Why is his design so perfect?

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>>149647887

>>149648023
beerus is a god of destruction not a god of making shit animes good

>>149648097
Whis and Beerus are the only good things in Super.

>>149648097
Beerus was a great addition until he just became "That guy who's always stronger than Goku somehow and doesn't do anything."

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>>149639817
>goku presses button
>muffins appear

>>149648042
And Vegito still accomplished jack shit.

>>149644773

She did surprisingly well as Black. Maybe granny just has a better knack for evil type characters, or maybe just for calm and collected characters cause I much prefer Black to Goku, even though its the same voice, but much different tones.

>>149648146
This. I'm sick of him remaining stronger than the likes of Goku when it makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Vegetto and Zamasu should easily be above this cat.

>>149648126
But anon, by destroying dragonball super, you make it better. Why won't you understand?

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>>149648160
Calm yourself, boy. Post your favorite fusion and be done with it.

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>>149648198
that makes sense

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>>149648124

>>149648118
It was the lead-up to it.
He becomes progressively more monstrous until he he reaches a stage of almost tranquil, laser-sighted maliciousness. He's no longer a raging beast, but he's all that vitriol condensed into a smaller, inconceivably more powerful form, that's through fucking around and is coming straight for the monkey scum.

>>149648188
>when it makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

He has not shown anywhere close to his full power.

>>149648198
Shut up, Zamasu.

>>149648251
But we've given hints that Goku isn't THAT far behind Beerus and yet no matter how many MULTIPLIERS Goku stacks on himself for some reason he just cant pass him.

>>149644268
I think they replaced him because he was ill.

>that time when Piccolo sacrificed the entire human race to gain some more time

>>149647733
Vegito's weakness will be Bulma, Trunks, Mai, Gowasu, Shin, the refugees (especially the little girl) and above all... THE TIME MACHINE.

>>149648303
Any hints that come from Beerus or even Whis are lies. Those fuckers lie constantly. Beerus doesn't want to discourage Goku and Vegeta and Whis goes with Beerus's wishes (for the most part).

>>149648303
Retarded spic. BoG is retconned through the BoG saga and the "Goku is 6 Beerus is 10" is retconned by Tori saying Goku won't outclass Beerus any time soon.

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>>149648348
that temple aint small, that walk was probably like 30 minutes long

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>>149648226

>>149648188
>Vegetto and Zamasu should easily be above this cat.
We don't know yet faggot

>>149648361
ok, zamasu has hostages, what now? order vegetto to unfuse?

>>149648455
Nevermind that the entire scale is all out of whack when you consider Whis is at 15.

Then what is Grand Priest? 20? What about Zeno? 40? 100?

It's not a statement of power. Its an explanation for the new cosmology and where Goku fits in. It is more static.

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>>149648488

>Beerus has a literal "Delete button" technique, that works regardless of your power level
>hey guise it's bullshit Goku will never beat him no matter how many powerups he gets!

Powerlevels being complete bullshit in DBS seriously pisses me off. People like to take the piss out of it, but powerlevels in DBZ were actually very consistent, logical, and taken very seriously. The "PLs are meaningless bullshit!" was never actually true.

Well, not until now. Now you have people like Trunks who are simultaneously Buu level and god level at the same time, depending on what's convenient for the plot. It makes me lose complete faith in the writers creating a cohesive narrative, which Toriyama always managed to maintain.

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>>149648539
I dunno. I am not Toei. Just seems like a logical explanation. Last time other people were Vegito's 'weakness' too.

>>149648601

>getting this mad over a gag series

ok.

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>beerus arc
>goal: find someone on par to fight with
>fight goku who is a god now
>lol i was giving only 1% of my strength but it was a good fight
>goal fulfilled