Dragon Ball Super

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>>149516847

GT
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GT BTFO HOW CAN GTFAGS EVEN RECOVER?

>>149516857
Retard

>>149516847
>The great debate.
Isn't actually one because Gogeta is not canon.

one doesn't have the color of autism for a hair color scheme

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>>149516847
Goddamnit, are their try to turn Brack

>>149516847
The one who isn't a ningen

>>149516937
Stop posting that shit here dumbass

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>Vegetto vs Zamasu next week
>Decently matched but Vegetto obviously has the upper-hand
>Somehow manages to find a way to break Zamasu's immortality
>Ready to deal the finishing blow
>Zamasu smirks
>Pulls out Black's scythe from his hand
>Slices a rift in time and space as he did before
>pic related comes out
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do

>>149516890
Fuck off.

>>149516908
More non-arguments, faggoteer?

>>149516911
And neither is Super.

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would you sniff Future Mai's preg farts?

>>149516847
Why does vegetto have 7 fingers on one hand?

>>149516992
Irrelevant, Vegito is still canon unlike Gogeta

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>Gt fags
>So butthurt their shit Oc fanfic was never canon in the first place
>even if it ever was, it is retconned now.
GG Gogeta faggots.

>>149516992
>And neither is Super

You high ?

If Zamasu and Black had sex with each other is it gay or is it just masturbation? Ordinarily I'd say it's just masturbation but the fact that Black has Goku's body makes it a bit more difficult to decide

>>149517026
And Gogeta is still a better character than arrogant Cuckgito.

>>149517029
>hurr hurr you can only like Gogeta if you like GT hurr

>>149517067
It's not canon, you fag.

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>>149516997
No
But I would succ her huge bewbs

>>149516992
>made my the original author as a continuation of the series
>not canon
Anon...

>>149517012
o god lol

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>tfw best grill

design wise vegitto is more appealing

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>>149517077

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>>149516847
who asked for Hiposting

>>149517113
It's not written by the original author you bitch. He gives skeleton outlines to Toei and Toyotaro and they continue the story as they see fit. Nothing about Super is canon, only the BoG and RoF movies are.

I'm not here to discuss canon anyway. I hate canonfags almost as much as Cuckgitofags.

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Movie Gogeta>Gotenks>DBZ Vegito>DBS Vegito>GT Gogeta

>>149517109
>It's not canon, you fag.

This is sad really...

>>149517109
>Gogeta is still a better character
He's a non-character in Fusion Reborn, and then he's Vegetto 2 in GT

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>>149516997
Only a gaylord wouldn't.

>>149516847
>the great debate
There's nothing to debate. Gogeta is a time-limited, weak Vegitto.

>>149517110
If only that Doujin weren't between her and Pilaf.

>>149516847
Stop being retarded, SSG Goku is Universe level so by himself DBS Goku is stronger than GT Gogeta.

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hi ningen

>>149517185
That was long before even BoG

>>149517156
Finally some fucking sense.

>>149517160
It's sad that you like the inferior fusion so much you're reduced to babbling non-arguments on 4chan.

>>149517173
His brief appearance in Fusion Reborn is better than anything Vegito has ever done. Fucker gets right to the point, whereas Vegerot-my-brain fucks around and almost gets the universe BTFO.

>>149517156
>character that appeared for 3 minutes

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RATE THIS ARC SO FAR

10/10 HERE

Vegito made it better and who know what could happen next.

Watching this with /a/ made it way better.

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hi

>>149517184
>this meme again
Fusion Dance isn't weaker than Potara Fusion. Elder Kai said it was "superior" in that it had no time limit and could be accomplished faster. It didn't mean power-wise.

>>149517154
did mommy not buy you your chicken tendies today, faggot?

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i only wanted Gogeta back because Stardust Breaker > Spirit Sword

anyone else say the same?

>>149517270
Kill yourself and take your retarded memes with you, you dribbling autist.

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>>149517270
FUCKING NINGENS, MOOOOOOOOOM!!!

>>149517219
How is super non-Canon?

>>149517154
>only the BoG and RoF movies are.
Black is in RoF

>>149517240
7/10, pretty good, some shit doesn't make sense like powerlevels and the time travel.

Probably top 3 DB arcs.

>>149517325
see >>149517154

>>149517285
That movie looked so good Jesus.

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>>149517240
It's a solid arc, 7/10. Though to be fair, Black and Zamasu (and to a lesser extent Gowasu but that's purely meme-value) are carrying this entire arc.

This arc also has Goku at his dumbest, forgetting both the senzu beans and the seal needed for the Mafuba. Goku being literally retarded is so grating, the arc loses a few points for it. That and general Super shitness, though the latter seems to be reducing somewhat.

I'm afraid DBS will only get worse without Black and Zamasu.

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>tfw smug until gohan turned him into a fellow cuck

>>149517330
Are you retarded?

>>149517300
Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger,

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>>149517393
that's not all gohan did

>>149517240
I think I'd probably give it an 8 at the moment, there's been some spotty animation here and there but some story stuff has bothered me (such as how Black came into existence because the time ring protecting him fucked with my head, Trunks's transformation that hasn't been explained)

But it's really great so far and is easily in my top 3 Dragon Ball arcs, which is really ironic because I thought I'd hate it because at its announcement I was doubting whether Trunks and an evil Goku would be anything more than fanservice.

Gogeta>Cuckgitard. I'll be back in a few hours, fuckers. I fucking hate you all.

nothing more worse than ningen are filthy knive ears

>>149517285
Stardust Breaker is a rad move

>>149516847
I can't stand how Vegeto looks like a cheap DA character. Even more so with the retarded blue hair.

At least Gogeta only lasts for 30 minutes.

Fusions were a mistake.

GT was a mistake.

Super was a mistake.

Kid Goku a best. A BEST!

>>149517219
> you like the inferior fusion so much

Did I hurt your feelings ? I'm not retarded, so naturally I'm not into power levels comparisons. Also there is nothing to argument about, Gogeta is Vegeto in a gay outfit.

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>>149517390
Beautiful picture, thanks ningen.

>>149517424
Have a nice nap

>>149517240
9/10 for me.
Great Villain, who they at least attempted to give proper motivations.
Fast paced progress.
Future Trunks.
New waifu-tier Mai.
VEGITO.
Could be 10/10 depending on if Vegito jobs or not.

>>149517240

Namek/Frieza arc will never be surpassed. Android/Cell arc gets a lot of shit but I liked it and it has the nostalgia factor of when I first got into it that I can never forget... so that's still #2 for me. But this arc is a solid #3. Best I could've hoped for from a new Dragonball series honestly. Hoping the one after this keeps the positive momentum going.

I give it a 8/10

>>149517501
>Great Villain, who they at least attempted to give proper motivations.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why Zamas steal ningen body if hate ningen

>>149517173
Gogeta is literally a non-character, there is very little personality about him, he's so bland and boring.
When Vegito is basically his own fucking character.
So that puts him leagues above whatever Lol3minutes is.

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>>149517416

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have anyone here make a villain tier list for DB in general yet?

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Finish this
Gohan is a ____

>>149517300
Not an argument, keep trying

>>149517536
Honestly, you too would want to destroy humans after seeing all of the fucks posting on 4chan

>>149517536
Hey I didn't say it was successful, I said they tried, you dirty ningen.

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>>149517573
Get out of here Ningen!!

>>149516847
REMINDER THAT VEGETTO LOST THE ONLY FIGHT HE'S BEEN IN WHILE GOGETA WON BOTH OF HIS.

>>149517573
because stupid ningens did this blah blah

>>149517367
Are you actually stupid? Like memes aside do you actually have an additional chromosome? Your argument as to why gogeta is the best is that super is questionably Canon? Are you actually dumb? I know I keep asking but I'm to much of a moral fag to make fun of a special Olympics contender. Gogeta is not Canon, he will know show up in anything written by Akira-sama because the nature of his existence is 100% contrary to everything vegeta and goku's relationship stands for. Even if super is a series of skeleton drafts of the manga I assure you that gogeta Will never make an appearance because he is exactly the same as Broly, cooler, turles, and bojack

100%Non-Canon

>>149517393

He was smug when he thought his power tier that was somewhere between semi and perfect Cell was beyond anyone else he would've encountered on earth. Then he realized he was barely above a sideshow fighter in the Buu arc.

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>>149517573
Delete this

gogeta is for fags

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translation when?

>>149517624
Not canon

What are the odds of Vegito fillers/SoL after this arc ends?

>>149517599
Why does Videl have frosting on her mouth

>>149517711

high hopefully

>>149517673
Someone should just do a release, after that, Niggastream well try to beat them next month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-8VV9935SI

Watch this and tell me that this OST is not as good as any other Z arc. anyone rating this lower than a 8/10 is a nostalgia babby

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>>149517616
yare yare

>>149517536
Honestly, he's not that different from extreme rightists.
He formed a negative opinion about all ningens based on a few shit-flinging barbarians.

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>>149517748
Nice try!

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>>149517593

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>>149517778
TOO SLOW!

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>>149517120
>tfw doesnt exists

>>149517711
Zero. He will get split so Goku or Trunks can be the one to finish Zamasu. Remember Vegito/Gogeta will NEVER actually kill villain outside of movie.

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>>149517616
>>149517748
>>149517778
>>149517796

>>149517802

>implying characters from another cartoon DO exist

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>>149517796
Stay down!

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>>149517831
>>149517822
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

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>>149517825
she doesnt exists even in this cartoon

http://dbhscan.imgur.com/

Translation never ;_;

>>149517673
I hope the manga just gives Future Trunks SSB instead that random asspull form.

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>>149517866
>implying she won't come from another timeline to fuse with trunks and save the day.

>>149517219
>It's sad that you like the inferior fusion so much you're reduced to babbling non-arguments on 4chan.
Save your posts and read them a decade later, when you will be over 18. You will be embarrassed.

hi anons, let's talk about the nature of "hi" and what it means and where it originated.

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>>149517858
You can NEVER defeat me!!!

>>149517257
Fusion dance can never be perfect, there is always slight flaws. Potara is the absolute perfect amalgamation of 2 beings with no mistakes.

>>149517285
They should just let vegetto use that move

>>149517914

Don't even bother he stopped responding. I think his mom saw the dumb shit he was posting and grounded him

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>>149516847
>>149516937
To be honest, one of the things DBM did right was giving depth to Vegetto. Of course in DBZ he was a cool hero type character and all but that's because he had everything under control. People are composed of good and bad behaviors, not just the former. And in this case not only did he lose a fight (I think Vegetto wouldn't mind as long as he could just train and try again) but the opponent cheesed through it. If there's still some Vegeta inside him you would bet he'd act like this.

Back when these pages were posted I remember people not agreeing with this multi-faceted version of Vegetto and dismissed it as OOC because it was somewhat childish and immature. To me that's what Saiyans are at heart. I don't see Super pulling anything like this because Vegetto is obviously there for fanservice and won't overstate its welcome, but I like the idea that he might have flaws. In DBZ he was totally Mary Sue territory even though he was needed as plot device. At least Super gives him a fair fight.

>>149517941
I did the same thing, in fact, I did cartwheels through my living room because I couldn't contain myself.

Honestly, what's wrong with Gogetafags? It's an objectively worse fusion. It's imperfect, has a time limit, has a worse design and worse voice.

Why would anyone prefer it over the stylish, attractive, well voiced, cool looking and vastly more powerful Vegito?

>>149517985
>They should just let vegetto use that move
n-not canon

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Is people stupid enough to think Vegetto really lost this fight or those posts are just an attempt to make Vegettofags angry?

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>>149517975
[smugs internally]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2BE7PZ6q0

fuck

>>149518017
See >>149516979

>>149518024
since when Gogeta was a fag?

>>149518049
It's butthurt Gogetafags letting out screams of terror before they curl up and die.

>>149517944
there used to be somebody who would post a picture of chi-chi waving and "hi"
but now it seems like it just refers to gay porn
there's also "hi cuties" freezer cosplay anon

>>149517390
Vegeta should just brought piccolo to do the mafuba. It would have given him something to do too

>>149518114
I want to see Piccolo strong enough to actually fight things without jobbing hard again

>>149517888
Toyble will make him SSB grade 3

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>>149518051
HA!

>>149518079
Since you not talk like spic

>>149518017
Vegetto having a personality? I'm ok with that

Vegetto being edgy like in those pages? No

>>149517909
even if, she would have a different clothes, these are not suitable for 2016 audience

>>149518061
Fuck you, this is a DB thread and I'm discussing DB related stuff. OP is literally Vegetto VS Gogeta and I'm trying to discuss Vegetto's personality.

DBS is basically DBM as much as fanfiction goes so stop bugging me and play epic thread savior against frogposters which are actually shitting up the thread.

>>149518060
>I forgot to ask
>Doesn't fly after Trunks and ask

Post minor tweaks that would fix character power-levels in Super

>replace anime Hit with manga Hit, anime Hit is irredeemable garbage
>SSG is well above SSB, SSB is just an SSJ with a dash of God Ki, SSG is full mastery to divine heights
>Beerus didn't use nearly his full power against SSG though, if SSG is way above SSB, it might still be fine for Beerus to go 70% against it, considering SSB still wouldn't touch him
>Trunks rage-state was God Ki leaking all over him coupled with SSJ fury and getting zenkai'd to fuck
>God Ki has an influence over those around it if they have the potential/experience to harness it

Frieza 4th Form-Sun
Android 18/17-Arcturus
Imperfect Cell-Deneb
Semiperfect Cell-Mu Cephei
Perfect Cell-Stingray Nebula
SPC-Oort Cloud
Fat Buu/Kid Buu-North America Nebula
Super Buu/SSJ3 Gotenks-Tarantula Nebula
Mystic Gohan-Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy
Buutenks-NGC 1232
Buuhan-Local Group
Vegito-Virgo Cluster
SSJG Goku-Eridanus Supervoid
Beerus-Sloan Great Wall
Whis-Universe
Vados-6 Universe
High Priest-30 Universe
Zeno-Multiverse

How does it look anons?

>>149517599
half saiyan scholar

>>149518202
Fuck off retard, that shit is a non canon fanfic.

i want to fuck Kid Buu's butt

>>149518202

sure it was made by people other than the original creator and from a different time period but it's more estranged when it's also from a vastly different culture

>>149518197
Oolong is ready.

>>149518227
I'd propose an alternative order of power with alternative names. Throw "super saiyan god" out of the window and call it "saiyan god". SSB becomes super saiyan gods which is... well, going super saiyan with god ki.

There, everything makes sense and we can finally get rid of "super saiyan god super saiyan".

>>149518159
Vegeta is edgy, so why wouldn't Vegetto be edgy when given the opportunity? Besides he chilled up in a matter of seconds. What downside would you honestly give to balance Vegetto's broken strength, wits and childish personality? Which by the way is exactly what is being portrayed in those panels, only in a negative way.

>>149518060
>not daydreaming about pregnant Mai
What a beta

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>>149518271
Buu is not for sexual

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>>149517597
I don't agree as to what qualifies as a good villain or a meh villain in that chart, but I tried to fill it as best I could with the DB villains.

HI ANONS

>>149518291
Thats what I thought, Why didn't people just call the first "Saiyan god" and Blue "Super Saiyan God"

>>149518306
Well, he has been hanging out with Gohan all day, evidently it rubbed off on Trunks

>>149518227
Id retcon SSJG to have blue spiky hair because the red normal hair looks lame as fuck.

There is no Super Cyan its aclled SSJG and Goku and Vegeta simply increase their base power levels as to explain how they get stronger.

SSJG cannot destroy the universe, but it can destroy the Large Quasar Group that is 4 bilion light years across.

Goku and Vegeta can actually control saiyans in their god forms.

it's really funny how GT fanfiction like Toyotaro/Jiji's DBAF doujinshi manga is margins better than shitty GT

>>149518320
>frieza
>not elder god tier

He did nothing wrong, anon.

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>GTfags

Go eat a dragonball

>>149518042
Canon this!

Unzips dick

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remember when people got hyped for this shit?

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>>149518366
It appears that Frieza didn't make the cutt

>>149518360
Early GT was alright, fuck off. Series was ruined by power level faggotry (basically it started copying Z instead of DB) and OVA-cliches.

>>149518347
>Goku and Vegeta can actually control saiyans in their god forms.

wtf

Anyone sick of these supernatural enemies? HURR EVIL GODS DURR.

I want to go back to the powerful ayylmaos like Majin Buu and Frieza.

>>149518366
On Namek he didn't, but charging over to Earth two times after a defeat wasn't smart

>>149517597
So judging by that image:

>Frieza
Shit Tier

>Cell
Mid Tier

>Buu
Mid Tier

>Zamasu
High Tier

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>>149518419
Goku and Gohan designs in that was good thought

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>>149518197
>that finecraft69 doujin
oh man why is it so hot?

>>149518440
They are SAIYAN gods thus can control saiyans because they are gods of saiyan, they can make Saiyans stronger or heal them along with bestow with abilities. Goku could literally touch Pan and she would have to ability to go SSJ2 on the fly. In addition actual gods like Beerus can literally manipulate your power level if you are a mortal meaning only a god can beat a god.

>>149518320
shouldn't kid buu be a tier higher?

>>149517597
That tier list is stupid

>>149518465
Maybe not entirely thought out, but not wrong either.

Frieza was a good man and the emperor the universe needed.

daily reminder kai has better voice acting, dialogue, music, sound effects, and pacing compared to the original shit out in the 90's

https://youtu.be/C1o5krVrVf8

this cannot be refuted and if you disagree you are a delusional nostalgiafag

>>149518442
Buu wasn't an alien. He was....wtf was he again?

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>>149516908
>>149517109
>>149517257

Like I said in the previous thread, why the fuck would Gogeta be SUPERIOR to Vegetto?
- Need to learn Fusion Dance
- Need to learn to sync properly. Mor difficult if different height, etc
- Need to perform it perfectly or else Fat/Skinny Gogeta
- Time limit

Even if we assume Gogeta = Vegetto strength-wise, Vegetto has none of those issues above.

>>149518524
An ancient evil

>>149518524
Outside of Earth=alien

>>149518521
Daily?
Dude
You're posting this like every hour

>>149518521
>music

No song in the original jap OST or Kai will ever top this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s2Ksz7rpck

>>149518521
Well you aren't wrong. Plus they got rid of the unnecessary filler. Kai was pretty good, only shitters dislike it. Music wasnt bad either.

>>149518320
>raditz
>mystery motives

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>>149518481

best Bulma design along with this one imo.

>>149518568
that doujin gave me the fetish for puffy nipples

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>>149516992
>muh arguments
>claims Super isn't canon

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>>149518366
>>149518465
Frieza's biggest flaw was being a ruthless space dictator. Sure, the ruthless part makes him evil, but what do we really know about his empire? All we do know is that without him, the entire thing collapsed into a gigantic civil war. A GALACTIC civil war, which at the very least kills millions if not billions. Frieza's influence on the galaxy is a net positive.

>but charging over to Earth two times after a defeat wasn't smart
True dat. Especially the second time. He didn't even attempt to set things straight in his empire. I feel bad for Sorbet, he only wanted to find a solution to the collapse of his empire and he got nothing for his efforts. He should've brought back King Cold or Cooler instead.

Vegito > Gogeta.
This is a proven fact.

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>>149517367
Toriyama himself considers DBS as a continuation of his manga you retard

I'll take the author's word over some butthurt GTfag

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>>149518320
Zamasu-kun's plan so sugoi

"I'll create my perfect world! It'll have trees and animals...BUT NO SENTIENT BEINGS! They'd just fuck everything up! "

>>149518521
kek, you actually believe that or just baiting?

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Friendly reminder

I'm just happy Vegito is back. I hope he sticks around a bit longer than before.

vegito is stronger, but SS4 design is the best so far

I would also make it so that gods in DB have no souls because souls are for mortals meaning if they die they cease to exist but gods cannot die because they are immortal.

>>149517394
That anon's technically right. Black was in the RoF extended edition

>>149518521
>better voice acting
'no'.
>Dialogue
It's the same script from the same manga, what?
>Music
Z's original score was better, and so was the placement of the tracks.
>Pacing
Well yes obviously.

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>>149518541
i wanted to post raven but i only have this

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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!

>>149518476
Why did Gohan join the Akatsuki?

Why did the dub BTFO the original japanese run so much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lojvWUsa0tc

>>149518622
Just think of Zamasu as an omnicidal nutjob.

>>149518690
The voice acting is objectively better.

>>149518722

i really fucking hate the original goku voice

dub is much better

>>149517767
I like how Zamasu is literally /pol/.

>>149518717
Because he's long since closed his eyes, his only goal is darkness.

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>>149518536
>according to Boo-Gohan, even Goku and Vegeta fused (aka SS3 Gogeta) are unable to defeat him
>SS1 Vegetto destroys Boo ass
>so Vegetto is several times stronger than Gogeta
>now Vegetto has access to the ultimate saiyan form, SSB
>Gogetafags still in denial about their weak fusion

>>149518749
Only in English, but did you forget that Japanese exists?

>>149518690
>no
Yes it does. At least the dub's.

> Dialogue
again, this mostly applies with the dub

> music
Subjective. But I personally thought the endless electronic music was annoying. Especially when it got louder than the fucking VA. But it does have some gems like SS Vegeta's theme and Cell's theme

>>149518749

English yes, Japanese the only advantage is that the audio master is higher clarity. original delivery is better

>>149517240
6/10 arc. Vegetto is my favorite, but not enough to salvage the errors of this arc for me. But that's okay. It's Dragon Ball, and nothing in it needs to be 10/10 for me to enjoy it.

>>149518767
Zamasu is a jew anon he sees himself as the master race that must destroy all ningen(goyim).

>>149516847
What debate?
We have Vegito, we don't have Gogeta.

That's kind of all there is to it.

>>149518619
lol no, he said he doesnt like super, whole black's arc was toei's invention not toriyama's

>>149518821
>SSJ Vegeta's theme

Muh nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGuDTRilKQ

>>149518749
Come on now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXLgmruUe1I
I do love the Tokusentai music, just think it wasn't specifically good for for the introduction.

>>149518625
you actually believe the fucking garbage original is better? are YOU baiting?
>>149518690
I should clarify I'm referring to the dub, but why the fuck would you watch Japanese dragon ball to begin with? There's no excuse now that a dub as good as kai exists

Guys. GUYS.

I don't think you understand.

Vegetto vs. Merged Zamasu has the potential to be the best fight in Dragon Ball HISTORY.

>>149518804
I was talking strictly English Dub, but yes the Japanese Kai dub was nowhere near as good as the original.

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Who is the bigger alpha?
Who'd win in a fight?

>>149518879
If vegito gets his ass kicked I won't enjoy it.
I want him to be a complete shit talking asshole, blast from the past full power.

>>149518879
No it doesn't.

Someone buy me Xenoverse.

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>>149518511
Thinking about it, at least he had a plan in case he failed the second time that would have got him what he wanted if Whis wasn't there to rewind time

>>149518611
This is why I wish we had more Dragon Ball spinoff stuff, I'd love to get look into the Frieza empire and shit

>>149518879
>implying anything could top Goku vs. Krillin or Piccolo vs Andriod 17 or Gotenks vs. Hitler

>>149518878
>why the fuck would you watch Japanese dragon ball to begin with?
Because the entire main cast is absolutely stellar. It's a professional cast with some of my favorite voice actors ever. Especially Horikawa as Vegeta.

>>149518876

The sentai song emphasizes their goofiness, the original emphasizes that "shit is about to get real".

>>149518876
>>149518829
Yeah. I thought we were talking only about the English dub. The Japanese Kai dub was inferior in every way to the original.

>>149518935
Torrents

>>149518879
Stop being retarded. You'd go as far as to trash the original manga if it meant Super being successful. Why are you fanboys this insufferable?

>>149517476
>Fusions were a mistake.
I'm waiting for that game on december, it is good?

>>149518935
smash bros is superior

>>149518974
Oh if we are talking about english dubs the Kai dub is much better than the original and probably one of the best DB dubs ever out there.
Japanese Kai is inferior to Japanese Z though.
>>149518972
I like it better emphasizing the "shit is about to get real" aspect so the sudden flowers at the end and Freeza's reaction are more absurd.

>>149519015
Success=more dragon ball

its not hard to figure out dumb fuck

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>>149517240
9/10

Best arc we've had in a while

> Bringing back old DB favorites like Adult Mai, Yajirobe, the Mufaba, etc
> Return of Future Trunks and timeline shenanigans
> Great villains like Black and Zamasu
> Goku isn't the strongest Z-fighter (Vegeta is now)
> More development for Future Trunks
> Lore-building (Apprentice Kaioshins, Time Rings, Angels, etc)
> Fusion and the return of Vegetto

>>149519057
Eventually Toriyama will die. Do you want more DB without him?

>>149518876
Kai is significantly better here. Original feels slow and kind of awkward with the silence.

>>149518918
>I want him to be a complete shit talking asshole
That's stupid. If it's just another stomp in Vegito's favor ala Buuhan then this fight will be boring as all fuck and all the potential would be sapped from it.

>>149519082
>> Goku isn't the strongest Z-fighter (Vegeta is now)
Except one Goku Kamehameha > two Galick Guns

>>149517240
7/10 so far
Mai and Gowasu are the main reasons, Black and Vegito look good too.

>>149519057
Look how well that turned out for the Simpsons, you fucking idiot. Everything deserves an ending. Super is literally resurrecting a dead corpse and raping it to no end, and I even like some stuff they did with it. Can't you enjoy a different anime?

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>>149519112
>1 goku kamehameha after zamasu just received a dp galick gun so it MUST mean goku is le stronger x DD

>>149518912
The one that's canon.

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>>149519085
You might have a point there anon

>>149518868
>he said he doesnt like super
He only sais he was disappointed with the animation quality. That interview was around the time of DBS's re-tellings

> black's arc was toei's invention not toriyama's
Toei pitched Future Trunks returning. They only suggested ideas at most...similar to how Toriyama's editors did when he was still drawing the manga.

Either way, the story itself is from Toriyama's mind.

If I told you to make a story about the adventures of a tree, and you wrote it, the story still came from you not me.

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>>149516847
Vegito
>>149517257
The rivalry gives a power bonus to the potara fusion, according to the elder kaioshin
Didn't you payed attention?

Vegetto will fuck up somehow and Gogeta will beat Zamasu.

>>149519085
Toriyama was done in 1995. Just because he's handing ideas and designs to both Toyotaro and Toei doesn't mean he's actually involved with the series anymore. Let the old man rest, he doesn't even remember half the characters.

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>>149519112
Except Black wrecks Goku, but Vegeta wrecks Black.

>>149517624
>VEGETTO LOST THE ONLY FIGHT HE'S BEEN IN
Are all Gogeta fans this autistic?

>>149519171
So, neither?

>>149518912
Not even SSJ4 100 % would even be able to touch current base Vegito. While SSJ4 is a 500 multiplier, I have high doubts that he could even see Vegito's movements.

>>149518868
You're an idiot. He said he was displeased with the animation. He came up with the Black Arc aswell.

>>149519085
>Eventually Toriyama will die
I wish he became immortal like Zamasu

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>>149517240
It went from 8/10 to 10/10 thanks to based vegito.

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>>149518942
>This is why I wish we had more Dragon Ball spinoff stuff, I'd love to get look into the Frieza empire and shit
Me too. That Rock Lee spin-off Naruto had sold pretty well, and DBZ is the biggest thing ever as far as anime is concerned, so a DBZ spin-off could work.

If we're going for the Frieza Empire, perhaps a lighthearted semi-comedic show that centers around the Ginyu Force and their (mis)adventures? Despite not having a really big role in the series overall, everyone loves the Ginyu Force. We'd have some more spotlight on five fan favorite characters as well as more (retroactive) worldbuilding.

Someone fund it.

>>149519283
So is he now stronger than Whis??

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>>149519256
DELETE THIS NOW!

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>>149517599
KEK

>>149517240
Shit/10
>Le evil kai
>Le evil goku
>Le time travel

Its like a really shitty fanfiction.

>>149519299
Maybe as strong or stronger than Beerus, he's still far away from Whis.

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>>149519219
>Goku and Vegeta has joined together into one body with the power that is near Hakaishin level. I guess I don't need to look for my next cat any longer

So in ep 61 future Zamasu's face goes briefly purple during regeneration after goku blasts him in the face. Likewise it seems likely that merged zamasu's regenerative capabilities have malfunctioned somehow.

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>>149519299
> So is Vegetto now stronger than Whis??

Beerus maybe.

Whis absolutely not.

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>>149519259

>>149519377
you sure know a lot about whis

>>149519351

wouldnt goku being such a moralfag stop vegetto from being a god of destruction

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>>149519256

Any chance the next saga will be all about vegito? Or will they just unfuse after they beat Zamasu?

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>Is character we haven't seen in action stronger than character we haven't seen in action

You can't be serious. Also, Vegetto is better, though Gogeta has some cool moves.

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why did yamamoto have to plagiarize and get all his music removed

it's not fair

kai could've been absolutely perfect

>>149519377
I can't believe Vegitto is getting trashed by Zamasu. Shouldn't Super Saiyan Level 3 or 2 be enough to handle him?

>>149519418

would be fun to see what his personality is like when hes not fighting

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>>149519413

>>149516890
>>149516992
>>149517109
>>149517219
>>149517154
HAHAHAHA look at this guy totally shitting the bed because his favorite fusion got shafted. Besides being pathetic as fuck this is true and solid comedy gold right here.

>>149519377
Yeah, I think Vegetto/Zamasu have reached a level where they should conceivably be able to defeat Beerus, but Whis should still be on another level entirely.

>>149519427
He's been doing it for decades, anon. He was gonna get caught no matter what

>>149516992
You really think his Goku side, or the Vegeta in him would think "Oh it's okay to kill my kids and Piccolo, I'll just wish them back haha.", you fucking fanboy. Gogeta is fine, but he only appears briefly and only spouts generic hero bull. Then he appears with a flanderized Vegetto personality. And since GT is just as canon as the movies (not at all), it's Gogeta's appearance with the most screen time. Case and point, Vegetto was brash and cocky to goad Buu into absorbing him so he could save his famiy. Gogeta was cocky and arrogant just so he could mess with Omega Shenron, also some evil energy bullshit.

So... Vegetto dwarfs Gogeta not only in power, but is smarter and actually has a plan. And he has more personality, and finally, is actually a part of Dragon Ball's story. You're just a faggot fanboy who doesn't know the continuity at all (Fusion Reborn fits seamlessly my ass) and is just massively buttmad that one fusion design (made by Toriyama himself) appeared over the one you favor (who has the same amount of appearances). If that's not retard fanboy behavior, I don't know what is.

In truth you're a fanboy faggot who doesn't know anything about Dragon Ball, and you're probably either mexican or a funikid.

>>149519256
>Loses two fights
>Wins one
>Vegetafags go crazy
Why are they so pathetic, lads?

>>149519427
kek jap DB BTFO. Based Faulconer never plagarized and had better music LMFAO.

>>149519429
supers power levels are pure retarded

>>149519511
Mexifags and Funifags BTFO.

Seeing that Vegito is back made me seriously consider picking up super

>>149519525
>Wins one
He didn't even win it. Black got up straight away and got stronger again.

>>149519496
but why couldn't he get caught after the fucking home releases came out

now I'm forever stuck with half of the series having horribly placed old music that ruins a lot of pivotal moments

they even fucking took out cell's insert song and who knows what awesome shit they had in the last 3 episodes that no one will ever hear

I'm too autistic to even watch the series without being bothered to hell by it anymore

>>149517536
Zamas is literally hitler anon

>>149519529
"Faulconer" plagiarized as well and most of the music suppposedly written bu Faulconer were not even made by him, he just stole the credit.

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>>149519525
>AntiVegetafags still butthurt

>>149519567
Do you like the English or Japanese dub for Kai?

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> Zeno-chan
> Vados/ Whis
> Beerus
> Champa
> Vegetto
> Fusion Zamasu
> Vegeta
> Black
> Hit
> Goku
> Golden Freeza
> Future Trunks
> Zamasu
> Mr Buu
> Magetta
> Gohan
> Piccolo
> Frost
> Gohan (Rusty)
> Cabba
> Botamo
> Krillin
> Tien
> Roshi
> Jaco
> Yamcha

>>149519586
Why are you throwing around this word? You're the one who seems a bit upset, my friend. I wasn't attacking Vegeta, anyway, Vegeta is fine. I was attacking his braindead fans (you)

>>149519567
Do you dislike Kikuchi's score that much.

>>149516847
I look forward to having my XV2 PQ offline team be SS4 Gogeta and SSB Vegito

>>149519377
Didn't whis say there was some way to master super speed not even beerus could do yet.

>>149519557
I picked it up after the retellings ended. It's an okay watch. Just don't expect quality storytelling. Nothing compared to DB/DBZ. but it's all we got.

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>>149519632

Is dbs a meme show?

>>149518524
A supernatural enemy like beerus or zamasu

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>>149519646
>Super Saiyan Rose Black
>ZAMAS

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>>149519657
>implying DB/DBZ had quality storytelling

WEW
E
W

>>149519663
no you are

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>>149519663
You need to ask?

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>>149519663
>dbs a meme show?
lol

>>149516847

I don't get the debate.
Gogeta looks cooler, Vegeto is canon.

And they're both fusions, and I don't really like fusion.

Basically they're both OP and completely wreck the villain but never really win because of plot.

>>149518442
>buu
>literal "it's magic I ain't gonna explain shit" candy beam and expansion/morphing/infinite-matter abilities
>not supernatural

>>149519630
I can't and won't believe that SSJ Blue Vegetto isn't stronger than Beerus or fatcat. He still gets dicked by Whis though.

>>149519661
>Has resorted to posting Reddit memes
Tragic

>>149519525
Goku only beated Botamo throughout all of DBS. And?

> in b4 G. Freeza
Group effort

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>>149519663
yes

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>>149519663
its quality meme

>>149519663
Dankest of all meme animes

>>149519407
Nope Vegeta's thirst for destruction will overpower him. He will just get another midlife crisis(Majin Vegeta)

>>149517156
The episode hasn't even aired yet and you're already ranking DBS vegito? You are grasping at straws.

>>149519256
except he didn't delusional vegetacuck

>>149519377
It's silly how strong some of these characters are. Whis shits on Beerus in terms of power, but this new angel guy that works with Zeno shits on Whis. Will Goku and Vegeta ever be at the top?

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>>149519663
>is meme ball super a memeshow?

>>149519703
Sayain saga is very well done in terms of tension building. One-by-one the heroes die. It's hopeless even once Goku gets there. Dragon Ball Super never gets as bleak as DBZ did in those early sagas.

>>149519630
>Le Reddit Cat Man and Le Fat Reddit Cat Man above Vegetto
>Yamcha that low
Go home, Reddit boy.

>>149519288
>explore frieza race
>explore planet vegeta and the saiyans
>piccolo goes to namek
>Vegeta uses the super dragon balls to restore planet vegeta
>Gohan slice of life

They would make millions

>>149518017
Literally the only thing DBM did right was Cell vs Dabura. It's total crap.

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>>149519663
why you asking stupid question that we already know the answer faggot.
of course its a meme show

>>149519729
I'm a Yamchafag, I only care about Yamcha. I recognize that Yamcha is a comedy relief character and thus doesn't need to win fights. I'm not sure what triggered you into bringing up Goku.

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>>149519663
The gift that keeps on giving

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>>149519663
you tell me

hi

>>149519663
>unironically watching dragon ball super
wew lad

>>149519830
how come Vegeta is a comedy relief character too but his fanboys get mad every time he jobs

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>>149519663
Yes

>>149519377
Wait why is Vegetto so beaten in that picture? I haven't watched the newest episode yet but Vegetto absolutely has to be like 10 times stronger than fucking Zamasu. Hell he should even be able to trash Whis, Vegetto is supposed to be the ultimate powerhouse of Dragonball. Excluding weird stuff such as angels and zeno that they randomly introduced to us obviously.

>>149519786
I think there was tension building all over DB and Z. I love Saiyan saga as much as the next guy but saying the rest of Z didn't have goose bumps material is just wrong. In fact I'm just watching Majin Vegeta vs Majin Buu which is a very underrated fight and I still get them years later. Japanese version of course.

>>149519703 is just deflecting as expected from Super memers.

>>149519663
Its like you asked is my mom a whore
The answer will always be the same

>>149519604
English, I know already about the yamamoto revival but changing the music fucks with the sfx too and I don't trust that it was all accurately restored 100%

I'm just not a fan of fanmade stuff in general because there's always something off that bothers me and reminds me it's unofficial, plus it creates a disconnect between what I'm experiencing and the majority is. Not to mention I would have to rip the footage off my copies and go through all the work of replacing it all, and then I would have half the series on a flash drive or something instead of all neatly on disks with the menus and everything intact.
>>149519639
I've grown to love it honestly, but the way it's placed in kai and the extreme lack of variety in the tracks is a huge negative. The final flash and gohan's ss2 transformation in particular were fucking butchered by what they put for the replacement and it really bums me out because yamamoto had sweet stuff there. And again, cell's insert song is gone completely plus the two unused inserts that may have been in the final 3 episodes, but no one ever heard.

Why can't dragon ball just have one release that is consistent and not fucked up in some way

why can't I stop being autistic about small details and just watch the fucking thing

god damn it all

>>149519884
stop samefagging

>>149519884
I hate this meme

>>149519429
Vegitto isnt getting trashed by zamas, in fact he's times stronget, but the little bitch is inmmortal, remember. And has a half saiyan so he constantly powers up, its not crazy or rage inducing for me that Vegitto has to work hard to sodomize zamas as much as i love Vegitto.