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Bleach thread

The last one was deleted for some reason
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>>149516493
>>149459038
is still active
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>>149516493
Orihime is the best.
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>>149516493
You should give it a rest for awhile.
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>>149516572
He means the one with an autistic bleachfag that thinks Kubo made no mistakes throughout the whole manga.
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>>149516493
Such a pretty cover.
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>>149516493
>for some reason
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>>149516919
Not him, but I agree. I don't know which version I like better.
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>>149516808
So how do you intend to prove Uryu had his ability at birth as well? There's plenty of scenarios where it should have activated but didn't, which you seem to be trying to hand-wave despite your other example (The Lloyds) having full access to their ability, not just passive.

In other words, you've successfully proven an exception to the rule but have failed to apply the same logic to Uryu.
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>>149516823
>complaining about Bleachfags in a Bleach thread

I think the autistic one is (You)
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11596242
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11596242
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JAPAN DIDNT LIKE THE ENDING!
ALL IS LOST!
BYE BYE ANIME!

https://www.amazon.co.jp/BLEACH_%E3%83%96%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81_-74-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E4%B9%85%E4%BF%9D-%E5%B8%AF%E4%BA%BA/dp/408880774X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478540373&sr=8-1&keywords=BLEACH
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>>149516991
He's also ignored that if it was antithesis that protected Uryu than it should have aushwalened Ywach into Uryu.

I mean I can accept the idea that Uryu used antithesis to reverse Ywach's almighty in a way where he could no longer see Uryu's future and that's how he managed to shoot him with the still silver, but as >>149516991 points out there were times in the series where it should have been used subconsciously and yet it never came up.
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>>149516987
I like the one you posted more.
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>>149516991
Who said that Royd and Loyds are exceptions? For all we know Uryuu could be like that too. Haschwalth stated the Antithesis was the reason the Yhwach was interested in Uryuu, Yhwach was interested in Uryuu because he survived the Auswahlen. This logically means that the Antithesis is the reason Uryuu survived the Auswahlen.
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>>149517207
>volume sales

Still retarded as ever, I see
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>>149517207
Still selling well though. Literally right under OP which holds the number one spot.

People are STILL giving Kubo their money. Seriously, how does the madman do it?
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>>149517256
Its the reviews not volume sales you dink.
People who have all the volumes are still going to buy the last one even if its shit.
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>>149517237
Just stop, anon.
>For all we know Uryuu could be like that too.
But we've proven beyond a doubt that he isn't, or else he'd have been able to freely use his ability since birth, which he never did.
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>>149517228
Uryuu can chose any two points and reverse them. Like for example himself before the Auswahlen and himself after/during the Auswahlen. His status from before the Auswahlen, where he is okay would reverse with the one from after or during the Auswahlen, where would not be okay. He would simply switch these two points in time.
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>>149517322
In other words, the reviews are meaningless and probably just a bunch of angry Deathberry fags? Yeah thats what I thought.
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>>149516987
Man, Kubo has developed such a nice style. Too bad he can't write a story worth shit. He should just become a character designer working for various studios.
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>>149517207
Japanese retards can't appreciate Kubo's talent.
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>>149517323
Since when that? It's a common thing that someone can initially only use a power on a subconscious level or when ones live is in danger.
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>>149517207
>44
>44 faggots rated it
>JAPAN HATES IT

Shitposters will shitpost
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ガキの頃からずっと買ってきましたが初めてレビューをします

この終わり方には全く納得いってないし作者、編集には怒りを覚えます

ファンだからこそ言わせて頂きますが、最低最悪の放り投げエンドだと。
途中ぐだったけど、55巻の「今までのBLEACHは最終章のためにありました」っていう作者のコメントを信じてましたが裏切られた感じです

まさか最終章の中で張った布石、謎すら回収せず終わらせるとは思わなかった

酷すぎる
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>>149517374
So it didn't activate when he fought Mayuri? Or even Syazel for that matter? You're argument is valid but not logically sound.
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破面編ぐらいまでは、ワクワクして読んでたのに・・・途中からの失速が最終回まで続きまくってガッカリ感が凄いです。
この表紙って、どんな意味で書いたの?ってあんまり書いちゃうとネタバレになっちゃうから書かないけど別に一護一人で良くない?って全体的に打ち切りを思わせるような大急ぎの話の内容で端折りまくって読者置いてけぼり感がwww
ずーっと購入してたから最終巻まで買ったけど、もし続編が始まったとしても読むことはないかな。
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>>149517426
This person is silly.
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>>149517495
>www

LOL
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>>149517327
That's not what he's doing though because Uryu is never hit by the aushwalen in the first place. How can he switch himself with a past self when the event never occurred?
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もうただただビックリですよ

あれ?あれはどうなったの?
あいつは?あの伏線は?ってな感じで少しもスッキリしないまま挽回出来ずに終わりました

そんな強敵なら卍解しろよってシーンもありましたが、結局主要なキャラの卍解を思い付かなかったみたいで…

卍解はこの漫画の見せ所のひとつだったのにもったえないったらありゃしないですよね

一瞬だけ良いシーンもあったりだったのでこんだけダラダラやってきたんならせめてもうちょい巻数増やしても綺麗に終わらせて欲しかったです

打ち切りとかならしょうがないですが…

何にせよss編が全てだと言っていた方々に今は文句の一つも言えません

まだまだ面白くなると信じて40巻以上に渡る迷走に付き合ったファンはどんな気持ちなのか…

本当にこち亀40年間お疲れ様でしたの一言につきます
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>>149517426
>>149517495
>>149517590
Are you going anywhere with this?
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>>149517622
He's trying to show that the nips hated the ending or something.
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>>149517467
Because such things don't always happen. Ichigo's Hollow didn't always come when he was in life threatening danger. Like when Aizen almost cut him in two piece. Ichigo was dying, but the Hollow didn't attempt anything. It was probably more likely to say that Uryuu was lucky that his power just happened to awaken in the right moment. I would also say that the Auswahlen were more life threatening than either fights.
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>>149517651
>44 people review
>final volume is under one piece in the rankings which means a lot more than 44 people bought the final volume

hes not doing a good job then
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>>149517651
If I cherrypicked shitposts from /a/ and posted them on 2ch would that make my claim any more valid?
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形式: コミック
マイナスつけたい位ですがしょうがないので一つ、また一応ダラダラとですが長期連載した敬意を込めて二つです。
70巻超え、足掛け15年週刊少年ジャンプで連載した結果が余りにもお粗末過ぎる。

少し連載追っかけてた方用に書きますのでネタバレ嫌な方は飛ばして下さい。

親父二人思わせぶりに出てきたと思えば竜弦が鏃渡して一心はタダの付き添い?
元10番隊の縁で日番谷と再会してミラクルの奴と闘うのかと思いきや親衛隊二人が聖別されて在庫処分。
全知全能もよく分からん感じで打倒。

ラスボスとの対決からいきなり10年後に飛び、全て放り出し、ついでという感じで子ども二人出てきて終わり。
大量の未回収の伏線、せめて少しはあとがきやコラム等で触れるかと思えば一切ありません。

これが作者の考えるオサレ道なんでしょうが漫画史上稀代の残念な終わりです。
次回作があるとすれば、原作か脚本をつけるか、せめて編集者の方の言う事ある程度聞いて描いて下さい。
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>>149517709
Right. Also, you can review things on Amazon without buying them. He's being silly.
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>>149517691
If Uryu had his Scrift form birth like the Lloyd brothers he should be able to use it at will. You can't just cherrypick situations in which it should work simply because it conforms to your argument.

>It was probably more likely to say that Uryuu was lucky that his power just happened to awaken in the right moment.
In others words, heacanon. Nice talking to you again by the way, but you're argument needs a lot of work.
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>>149517691
But the hollow powers did pop up when he was in danger during the SS arc. The only reason it likely didn't against Aizen was because Ichigo had already exhausted all his energy fighting Byakuya.

You're telling me Uryu supposedly used it once to escape death as a young child and then never again. Not when he was poisoned by Mayuri? Not when he was having his organs crushed by Szayel? Just never?
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>>149517900
The Ichigo/Hollow argument doesn't even apply to Shrifts as the one exception to the rule (the Llyods) implies that the ability can be freely used since birth, whereas Ichigo's hollow becoming free was basically a side-effect of Yhwach manipulating Ichigo's power.
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>>149517207
Bleach has 90 million in print in japan (vol 1-73)
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>>149518469
>Bleach has 90 million in print in japan
How did the madman do it?
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still relevant
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>something isn't internally consistent in Bleach

Add it to the list. Kubo is a hack and doesn't give a fuck to tie up or explain shit.


The best parts of Bleach all occurred despite Kubo's ability and efforts. Every single one.
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>>149518597
The Renruki novel will most definitely give a good conclusion. The Hisagi novel is more iffy, but at the very least it will be an answer and we at least will most likely find out about the fate of all the missing characters.
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>>149518537

We thought his early writing indicated talent and a plan instead of Kubo having no idea what he was doing and just so happening to catch lightning in a bottle once
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>>149517692
People buying the final volume means shit all since the book costs like 5 fucking dollars and is the finale of the series. The important thing is merchandise sales to coincide with it, and none was even made because Bleach is a rotting corpse that no one cares about. It couldn't even get the anime renewed.
Stop making these dogshit generals
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>>149518727

>good conclusion

Is it going to show mayuri getting executed and an end to the underclass system of the seretei/rukongai?

No?

No good ending. Our heroes are now just cogs in a demonstrably broken system.
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>>149518727
I'm not getting my hopes up about the novels being good.
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>>149518818
>still mad that Mayuri was right

t. Quincy cuckboi
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>>149517651
https://www.amazon.co.jp/BLEACH-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%8E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E7%89%88-63-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9DIGITAL-%E4%B9%85%E4%BF%9D%E5%B8%AF%E4%BA%BA-ebook/dp/B00KM29PTS/ref=la_B003UWSJ80_1_25?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1478546661&sr=1-25

Bleach rating in Amazon has never been too high.
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>>149518766
Why did people think the anime would get renewed though?
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>>149519071
Isn't this the volume where Rukia reveals her bankai? Why is it ranked so low?
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>>149518967

He experimented and tortured a race to what soul society thought was extinction, then blew up other members of soul society casually, men under his command.

There is no good end where soul society exists even remotely resembling it's pre rescue arc self.

The gotei were founded as a fucking gang of warlords for fucks sake.

>#aizenhadapoint
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>>149519077
Because they were anime only fans and were angry that they had to read after the fullbring arc.
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>>149519186
>complains about the grey morality of SS
>is an Aizenfag

Hypocrite much?
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>>149519118
Because the ratings don't reflect what the majority of the readers really thinks. The Äs Nödt fight was voted the third or second best of all Bleach fights (that don't involve Ichigo).
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>>149519272

>grey morality

Kubo wrote grey thinking it was black and white and enforcing black and white outcomes.

Stop giving Kubo credit for being a hack writer.
IF Kubo had actually intended a grey area he would have explained aizen and especially Tousen's motivations more.

Guess what Kubo chose not to explain? In a long list of things Kubo never explained.
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>>149519379
Ah, yes I remember that. It was stated in the 13 blades databook.
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Why is Soybeans such a shit character?
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>>149518766
Rica stop posting already.

Bleach in 2012 made 16.4 billion yen. You're retarded.

Also, rankings are irrelevant Oda himself said the editors pick whatever they want.
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>>149518766
>no one cares about
>gets a movie
This is how I know you're retarded, also... are you that JUMP obsessed retard that hates Bleach? Why don't you go back to MH and Leddit, you're being obvious now.
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>rukia is the loved female character in the series
>the volume where she reveals her bankai is ranked low on nip amazon
>databook states that it was actually apopular fight that was ranked quite high in the poll

literally what is the truth
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>>149519500

Because after the yoruichi bombshell Kubo never bothers to reexplore their relationship or show yoruichi's reintegration to soul society.

And then Kubo made one of bleach's more interesting character dynamics get awestruck by yoruichi with a dick completely undermining her devotion to yoruichi as a person and mentor.
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>>149519595
Yoruichi became irrelevant after she helped Ichigo train. Most characters became irrelevant after they do their part to kick him into shape.
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>>149519570
Anon have you ever read Amazon reviews? it's just 10 crazy fucks that put 1 stars into everything, you just need to sign up and you can write a "review", it's not a professional review.
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>>149519500
She's actually about as popular as Aizen and just barely outside the top ten. Also more popular than either Yoruichi and Urahara and is seen as the better choice for Yoruichi.
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>>149519634
after they did* my bad
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>>149519656
>more popular than either Yoruichi and Urahara and is seen as the better choice for Yoruichi

Are people dumb?
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>>149519634

Kubo in a nutshell.

Create interesting characters brimming with potential. Use them to power up a character for one fight then discard them.

Fuck Kubo.
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>>149519570
That's the kindle review, which is even less something to go on than the regular amazon review.
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>>149519692

No.

Kubo just insinuates better stories going on behind the scenes than the ones he chooses to animate.
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>>149519692
She unlike Urahara doesn't drug Yoruichi or turns her into a mindless beast or disregards her consent and dignity or participates in highly unethical behavior that cost many lives.
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>>149519692
Yes. Just look at how high Momo tends to rank.
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>>149519696
>Create interesting characters brimming with potential. Use them to power up a character for one fight then discard them.
Literally Unohana. She died for a jobber.
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>>149519748

She also voiced her feelings first.

So by ichihime logic, uraharaxyoruichi was doomed from the start and any romantic hints between the two make zero sense and are just grasping at straws.
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>>149519390
Reading comprehension failure much?
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>>149519500
Shitty attitude and overall unfunny.
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>>149519696
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DOESN'T KUBO USE MY WAIFU MORE


Fuck off
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>>149517207
>44 votes

Still autistic as ever huh.
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>>149519879

Writing failure.

I'm done trying to justify Kubo stumbling dick first into narrative gold only to not realize it and ignore exploring the themes more.

But it's cool because Kubo gave me an undeveloped relationship upgrade with shinigami babies after a time skip. That TOTALLY makes up for 15 years of loose plot threads.
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>>149519915

>waaaaaaa Kubo can't write and instead spends his time creating new characters to underutilize and negatively impact his already shaky narrative control of his own writing

Go enjoy eating your shit.
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>>149519940

Disappointment?
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>>149519940
Do they have bachelor parties in Soul Society?
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>>149519940
The author loves Rukia so I think it'll be good. It's going to cover the 10 year timeskip so we'll probably see how SS was rebuilt and what-not.
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Wew
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>>149520196

Why would they?

They apparently don't even have dating, courtship, or even character interaction in the world of bleach.
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>>149519940
>RENJI SPILLING HIS SPAGHETTI WHILE ASKING BYAKUYA TO MARRY HIS PRIDE
>BYAKUYA GIVING RUKIA HISANAS OLD BRIDAL KIMONO TO WEAR.
>ICHIGO AND ORIHIME BEING EACH OTHERS DATES TO THE WEDDING FOR MORE BUTTHURT
>ICHIKA BIRTH
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>>149520286
>They apparently don't even have dating, courtship, or even character interaction in the world of bleach.
Angry and bitter IRfag spotted.
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>>149520036
T. Retard
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>>149520316

Hey man. All MY favorite pairing had was accidental and unintended chemistry.

You didn't even get that, then Kubo thought you'd be happy with time skip babies.

Your shit taste and hope for some fulfilling closure are going to leave you heart broken when you make wishes on the monkey paw that is Kubo.
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>>149520350

>this guy actually thinks bleach is good and Kubo is a good writer

Stop bro. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>149518597
Rukia should be screaming KUUUUUBO at the end instead
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>>149519940
-finding out who is alive and who is not
-Development for the individual characters
-Characters dealing with the consequences of the war and trying to rebuild the Seretei
-Renji trying to confess his feelings to Rukia, them going on dates and later asking for Byakuya's approval
-The wedding being as catastrophic and funny as every wedding in a tv-show
-Shinigami and Quincy making peace
-The Quincy learning to live without Yhwach
-Possibly some character development for the Sternritter, if some of them survived
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>>149520522
>-The wedding being as catastrophic and funny as every wedding in a tv-show
Who's ready to see one of the karakura kids drunk? They should be of age already and Rangiku already asked Orihime/Ichigo to join her and Kira back in the SS.
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>>149520480
Classic deflection, keep posting
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>>149520585
I'm split between wanting to see Ishida or Chad tipsy the most.
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>>149520585

>hoping and anticipating fanfic tier writing

This isn't even fan service.

This is what bleach has been reduced to.
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>>149520437
As an ichihime fan, I got a lot throughout the manga desu especially in the last arc. Sorry you didn't see it though. You were probably too wrapped in up in praying and chanting for your reunion/tagteam and for Rukia to be relevant again.

The novel announcement and latest interview must've hit you hard huh.
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>>149520688
How is that fanfic tier writing? Kubo has shown us plenty of character drunk/heavily drinking, in either the manga or omakes.
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>>149519940
Hopefully minimal amounts of Ichigo.
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>>149520682
Kinda wanna see Orihime. I wonder if she spills her spaghetti less if she's tipsy.
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>>149520764
Him and the gang will probably just be mentioned twice. How they went back home after the war, and their appearance during the wedding.
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If Kubo and his editor had decided Orihime was the heroine and love interest from the start why the hell did they let the anime team down play Orihimes feelings so much?
Maximum trolling set up perhaps?
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>>149520522
>later asking for Byakuya's approval
This is the scene I want to see.
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>>149520692

Stopped expecting payoff from anything that Kubo set up by the middle of the HM arc.

Enjoy your kurosaki-kun.

Kubo not going full IR doesn't even break the top 50 of narrative issues that plague Bleach.

As a Home fan, I'd expect you of all people to be angrier about Kubo underutilising or not exploring her powers, ability, or relevance to the plot.

Unless all you cared about was shinigami babies in which case congrats on both your pairing and for being the cancer that killed bleach.
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>>149520804
>Maximum trolling set up perhaps?
Of course, this is Kubo we're talking about.
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>>149520804
It's pretty mad. A lot of people will have only watched the anime. Imagine how confused they where when they heard Ichigo married Orihime.
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>>149520737

>ever third fanfic is a drunk party fic, of those the majority are wedding celebrations

Know what I would want to see?

Plot relevant interaction between the characters exploring and coming to terms with their feelings for each other.

But since the plot ended at chapter 686 and the good plot ended back in SS, that's not going to happen.
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>>149520804
They weren't in charge of the animes changes. I mean they basically threw out Kubo's ideas for the Hell movie in favor of their own version of it.
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>>149520853
>Kubo not going full IR doesn't even break the top 50 of narrative issues that plague Bleach.

Yet in the same post you claim that Ichihime was the cancer that killed bleach. Make up your fucking mind already my guy.

You IRfags act like you're so pissed about the plotholes and missing characters, but in reality you're just angry that your pairing didn't happen and you just proved it by slipping up. Nice one dumbass.
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>>149520930

No.

Being willing to let shinigami babies blind you from directing criticism at the unrealized potential of bleach because Kubo threw away two chapters of denouement to acknowledge your ship is what makes you cancer.

How about you start using some critical thinking skills instead of assuming every grievance is IR tears.
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>>149520804

If Kubo intended on Time being the heroine, why did we get the Orihime's we saw during the HM arc.

Which Kubo admitted to being HER arc.
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>>149520972

And considering Kubo threw out his own ideas for the Hell arc, we're probably better off for it.
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>>149521068
It's obvious you're mostly pissed about your pairing though. I can tell by your previous posts in the thread.
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IR don't read Bleach. Proof is how many they decry about Death and the Strawberry being 'canon' yet in that novel:
- it's established Ichigo misses his powers, not Rukia
- Their Queen couldn't give much of a fuck about Ichigo's blues until Orihime cried about it
- Chad is training to be a professional boxer (yet they complained this 'came out nowhere' in the epilogue).

Or how Honey Dish Rhapsody was IR when they acted like siblings there.
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>>149521223
They do read it, they just twist everything to such an extent that it doesn't resemble what was in canon.

For example, the FB arc showed us plenty of times, that his powers were what Ichigo missed most yet IRfags think he was depressed and pining over Rukia and SS because that was his ~real~ home.
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>>149521323
>SS because that was his ~real~ home.
They never paid attention to Ichigo's character, I see. He doesn't give much of a shit about Soul Society aside of being some of his bro's homes. He was always the self proclaimed protector of Kamakura. It's like one of his defining personality traits.
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>>149521205

Look up you retard.

I've brought up everything from soifonxyoruichi, to uryu and mayuri, to the hotel being thugs, to Tousen's never getting to explain his justice, to Kubo balking at making orihime a major player in her own arc.

But yeah. I only care about muh deathberry and would TOTALLY overlook all those plot issues if only Kubo were to give ME a throwaway time skip IR baby.

Because that's all I liked about Ichigo and Rukia's interaction, wondering what their 6 year old would look.
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>>149521430
Not that guy, but if at any point you looked at their interaction and convinced yourself it was romantic, I'm not so sure you actually liked what was really there.
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post girl rants how she hates Mayuri.
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>>149519500
>Soybeans
It's Soy-Sauce and she's a whateverish character. Not shit.
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>>149521223

Yeah man.

Because orihime TOTALLY doesn't become jealous at Rukia's ability to turn Ichigo's mood around.

Rukia fixing his blues as her first act upon returning to karakura.

And Chad explaining he'd only use his fists for the sake of others.

Heaven forbid SOMEONE judge characters by what is written and drawn on a page if Kubo isn't going to do it.
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>>149519940
Ichigo objects the wedding.
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>>149517093

WHAT'S SHE SAYING !?
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>>149521492

Someone "read" bleach and wasn't paying attention.

Not my fault Kubo writes better romance on accident than intentional.

But considering the best parts of bleach happened on accident that shouldn't be a surprise.
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>>149521567
>Because orihime TOTALLY doesn't become jealous at Rukia's ability to turn Ichigo's mood around.
You guys are still bringing this up? It happened once and it was resolved. Let it go already.
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Ichika with tattoos when?
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>>149519940
Ichigo rejects Rukia's feelings and goes for Orihime
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>>149521648
Never if Byakuya has a say in it plus Renji is always covering his with a bandana so he probably regrets them. I could see her getting a small one if anything.
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>>149521567
These Anti-IchiRukifags are so bitter that they will eat any shit Kubo gives them no matter how little sense it makes just to show off their spite.
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>>149521223
I've learned in recent years that shippers "see" things in a completely different manner than how it actually plays out in reality.

Those guys have a screw loose.
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>>149519940
That she gets with her true love niisama on the lowkey, but little did Rukia know what Renji was also tapping niisama lowkey

Orihime's best look was in mexico and if she wasn't so hung up on Ichigo I could see her getting with Bat. I never understood the Bat/Hime pairing but now I do.

Ichigo a shit and Orihime deserves better. The kids are cute though.
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Can't Kubo just have Ichigo and Rukia fuck regardless if they are married?
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>>149521567
>Because orihime TOTALLY doesn't become jealous at Rukia's ability to turn Ichigo's mood around.
No, she was jealous in the start of an arch about her feelings and Ichigo's, you mean? And then no longer gave a shit about it because, well, there wasn't anything she should be jealous about. Even Rangiku laughed about it.

That's why she comfortably asks Rukia to return his powers in Death saves the Strawberry. Because she is no longer jealous. She recognizes Rukia is just a BRO to Ichigo.

>Rukia fixing his blues as her first act upon returning to karakura.

No, the shinigami return his power and 'fix' his feeling of impotence. It could have been Hitsugaya and it would have been the same shit. That's why Facebook helped to fix his blues when he lost his powers again. Rukia herself is irrelevant. It's the powers that matter. Learn to actually read. What makes Ichigo depressed is being impotent.

>And Chad explaining he'd only use his fists for the sake of others.
Doesn't matter. He had character development and changed WAY before the epilogue. You're an idiot who actually doesn't read Bleach and think the characters remain stagnant. He was satisfied to get stronger and enjoys boxing. It's a sport, he's not really picking street brawls.

>Heaven forbid SOMEONE judge characters by what is written and drawn on a page if Kubo isn't going to do it.
Heaven forbid you actually pay attention to how the scenes play on context and how the character evolves.

Same how you made Ichigo a stupid child who constantly need of Rukia when the point was for him to grow up and cast her out to face his own battles.
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>>149521685
Why Renji didn't think of tattoo removal surgery?
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>>149521814
>That's why Facebook helped to fix his blues when he lost his powers again.

pic related will always be funny
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>>149521788
Why would them? Ichigo finds Rukia unattractive and Rukia sees Ichigo as a child. Now he's even balding and gross, so why would she cheat on her hot husband or her hot brother?
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>>149521637
>It was by accident
Then why are you holding it in such high regard. You should realize if it was by accident then there wasn't ever anything there to begin with.
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>>149521829
I thought about this too. Maybe he doesn't regret them. Hell, Kubo probably just likes how he looks in them and made them his trademark.
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>>149521877
I would've been perfectly okay with Facebook killing Ichigo and assuming his life.
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>>149521911
No use trying to use logic with them.
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>>149521877
Yes, Kubo was making his message clearer in case the reason why Ichigo is depressed wasn't clear enough for drooling idiots who mistake platonic friendship with romance.
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>>149521492
>>149521911
Their feelings COULD have turned romantic. It wouldn't look like an asspull if it did. Hell, people would have EXPECTED it.
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>>149521959
>that time when Facebook flirted with Orihime on the phone and Ichigo lost it

Did he replace him as her crush because Orihime didn't understand why she felt pain when Ichigo was sad.
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>Nel didn't win the Ichigo bowl
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>>149521979
Exactly, it was his powers. Ichigo not being able to protect is what causes him to despair because its such a huge part of his character.
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>>149521567
>And Chad explaining he'd only use his fists for the sake of others.
Someone apparently didn't read Death saves the strawberry.
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>>149521911

Because the problem stems from kubo's ultimate failure as a writer.

Failure to recognize and capitalize on the most interesting part of his story.

Also what road Kubo to success. Seeing the greatness in kubo's work that it is now obvious that Kubo never intended.
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>>149521991
>Their feelings COULD have turned romantic.
But they didn't because Kubo likes them better as nakama. Let it go.
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>>149522017
She never tried. She shipped Ichihime as a child. It's also more important to find out whether she's alive or not.
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>>149522062
>Let it go.
No. Never. Okay?
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>>149521399
>ichigo
>personality
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>>149521782
Based Renji
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Bleach was a hero's journey played to a T. How could anyone expect Ichigo to fall for his mentor and stay in Soul Society? It is ridiculous and against any sensible coming of age narrative.
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>>149522077
Suit yourself. Have fun staying angry and bitter over a fictional pairing that was never going to happen in the first place.
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>>149522036

>light novel

Yup.

I only give Kubo credit for things he includes in his manga.

If it's not important enough to illustrate it's not important.
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>>149521906
How often does nii-sama fuck His- Rukia in her sleep?
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>>149521689
>These IchiRukifags are so bitter that they will make up any shit no matter how little sense it makes just to show off their spite.

FIFY. You're welcome.
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>>149521906
>balding
Hey, it's this meme again.
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The covers of the re-release's first two volumes. Looks alright, but wish Kubo would have drawn new ones, or these in his new style.
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>>149522017
Aizen too.
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I wanna hold Ichika's hand!
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>>149522119
For all the claims of "english majors" among the IR folks, they completely missed how a typical hero's journey story plays, huh?

I'm not saying Bleach is great literature, but Ichigo's development and general outline answers to that structure. What Kubo failed to do was the little details which resulted on plotholes. But I suspect those exist for Jump to shill more 'tie in' novels.
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>>149522119
The kid just wanted to protect his friends, town, and the world if it came down to it. That's literally all he ever wanted. He never wanted to stay in SS or to change it. He didn't give a shit about how they ran things, the only time he cared was when they were going to unfairly execute Rukia and when Yamamoto forbade him from going to save Orihime. He was always happy to return home after his missions.
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>>149522132
Kubo had something good and ruined it. That's why I will never get over this. We are NEVER going to have something like this in anime and manga again.
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>>149522119

But it could have been so much more.

Where one punch man was a comedic deconstruction of shounen, bleach was looking to be the nge or madoka.

Then we realized Kubo wasn't deconstructing shounen. He just sucked at making dbz with swords.
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>>149519940
It won't happen but I want Isshin to go to the wedding and meet up with Rangiku and Toshiro.
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>>149522190
>"english majors"
My fucking sides. How batshit do you have to be to bring up your degree when talking about a pairing from a manga aimed at pre-teens?
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>>149522180
me too...
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>>149522201
I just fucking wanted more Rukia. That's literally all I've ever wanted
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>>149522201
>We are NEVER going to have something like this in anime and manga again.

Go read better manga or watch better anime.
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>>149522218
>bleach was looking to be the nge or madoka
What the actual fuck?
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>>149522261

>go watch something better
>don't hold current series that have potential to a higher standard

Cancer that killed bleach.
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>>149522190
They're an odd bunch. Someone 30 yr old Ichiruki fan wrote a super long essay and started it off with "Bleach isn't a shounen".
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>>149522218
>But it could have been so much more.
It's a shounen story aimed at teenage and young boys. You need to apply yourself and actually understand what it was being written.

The hero makes his journey and returns home, settling down to live a normal lifestyle, or one peaceful. It's not just in shounen but in most regular legend and literature. Ichigo was never even characterized as giving a shit about SS, rather he wanted to be the protector of his friends and family which were alive.

>>149522190
>>149522196
Exactly.
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>>149522256
I want more of Ichika...
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>>149521788
Rukia is ugly
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>>149522338
You're ugly
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>>149521788
If you have a 100/10 like Orihime who the entire Bleach universe lusts after, why would you care to look for a midget like Rukia? Ichigo has always been a boob man.
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>>149522285

Yeah.

But we'll never know because Kubo balked at greatness and decided to make shinigami designated good guys, always and forever.

Imagine a battle shounen with actual moral grey areas. Not asspull "x was goodest good guy all along" areas
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>>149522338
You're double ugly.
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>>149522360
Hallibel deserved better.
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>>149522397
You would know those exist if you had read more than a total of 3 manga.
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Why did people want changing SS to be a goal of Ichigos? If anything it would've made more sense for it to have been a goal of Rukia because she lived through it. She(and Renji) both know first hand how awful the system is. That would've been a great part of her storyline.
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>>149522385
>If you have a 100/10 like Orihime who the entire Bleach universe lusts after
She's a "whatever" to me. I don't know what the Bleach universe and Kubo sees in that character.
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The ending upset me because Renji deserves better than the passive cunt who never actually did a single thing to fix their relationship and gave up on herself, trying to passive-aggressively paint herself as a 'victim'. I dislike women like Rukia who put a saintly image to actually just hide the fact they are selfishly giving up and not actually understanding people's feelings.
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>>149522397
This is a fighting SHOUNEN. It was never meant to deconstruct shit. How fucking stupid can you people be?
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>>149522316

>nge is a fighting robot story aimed at young boys
>madoka is a magical girl series aimed at middle aged men who like cute girls doing cute things

Yup. Adhere to trope. Turn your brain off. Mindlessly consume, consume, consume.
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>>149522469
Rukia was depressed, suicidal and had a tremendous amount of guilt/shame over killing Kaien. Cut her some slack.
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Uryuu should have got with Orihime. Fight me.
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>>149522504
>nge is a fighting robot story aimed at young boys
This is untrue. Anno said it was aimed at otaku since the beginning and was surprised it was well received by the general public. His message is to them. Read End of Evangelion Tsurumaki interview.
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>>149522307
>Thinking that IchiRuki not being canon is "lost potential"

IchiRuki cancer killing Bleach threads.
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>use chemistry as an argument in Kubo's work
>this is allowed
>use Orihime's love admission and ending in Kubo's work
>No the manga is shit anyway
You can't have your cake and eat it lads. There was not one time where either party in IR displayed romantic feelings for one another. I won't even count Ichigo because he's a bland fuck n both IH and IR.
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>>149522513
Uryu should have gotten with Nemu.
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>>149522512
She had decades of fixing her relationship with her brother or Renji and she never fucking try. It wasn't just about Kaien. She never actually tried to fight for anything. I don't like those kind of characters, she's really weak willed. Renji committed mistakes too, but he was actually actively trying to do something he misguidedly thought would fix everything, but he at least fucking tried. He never stopped believing that their friendship was important to Rukia while Rukia completely misunderstood him. Rukia doesn't deserved someone like Renji.
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>>149522425

Because Ichigo WAS changing soul society.

Captain's were fighting captain's, exiles were returning, noble houses were being laid to waste, 1000 year old law and tradition were being ignored, and seretei's revered power of bankai was being usurped by a lowly human substitute.

Pay attention next time.
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>>149522201
Good, your headcanon is garbage and wouldn't have improved Bleach in the slightest.
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>>149522610
Uryu isn't a pedo.
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>>149522619
But he didn't give shit about it, you pay attention. Ichigo's goal was never "I wanna change SS", but rather "I want to protect my loved ones." He accidentally changed things to save Rukia and Orihime. That fucking it.
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>>149522619
Yea he was, but it's not like it was a goal of his. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? He probably doesn't even know that he changed it so much.
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>>149522627

>there is no way bleach could be improved by following through with things Kubo laid down earlier in the series

That's you.

That's how ridiculous you sound.
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>>149522619
Lowly human substitute is a funny way of spelling Jesus
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>>149522627
Sorry that I appreciate the actually good things about Bleach, numbskull.
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>>149522618
Byakuya was always cold and indifferent to her. Renji told Ichigo that BOTH of them wouldn't dare glance at each other.
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>>149521788
What is it IRfags and their obsession with NTR? Why do they wanna turn Ichigo and Rukia, the characters they claim to love, into cheaters?
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>>149522196
>He didn't give a shit about how they ran things, the only time he cared was when they were going to unfairly execute Rukia and when Yamamoto forbade him from going to save Orihime.
Ichigo's kind of a dick.
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>>149522707
Nope. It can be improved in many ways.

It's just that your delusion isn't on that list.
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>>149522699

>Ichigo's goal was never

So?

He was doing it. The internal turmoil that lay underneath shinigami rule and structured society was being brought to a boil by Ichigo being an outsider with one goal of "protect my friend".

A more interesting story than what we got was peeking around the border of kubo's panels and be chose to ignore it.
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>>149522751
Rukia still didn't act to reach out for either of them. Renji didn't glance at her, but he never gave up in their relationship and was working to associate with her again. Rukia gave up. She wasn't doing anything except wallow in her misery. She's passive and did nothing to actually earn her happy ending. Which pisses me off in general. It's like it was handed to her on a silver platter.
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>>149522786
He had some pretty dick moves throughout the series. Another big one was how he abandoned a severely wounded Rukia, the moment Ulquiorra told him that he brought Orihime to HM.
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>>149522782
Because they should be together, simply.
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>>149522793

>because I say so and shinigami babies are an end in and of themselves

Take a hike Kubo shill.
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>>149522814
Ichigo doesn't give a shit. It's like you don't get it. He doesn't give a shit and even if he was told about it, he wouldn't give a shit. Ichigo is a simple man with simple goals.
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>soul society was great
>so let's do it again
>in the desert
Kubo used to be a fucking genius. What went wrong?
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>>149522852
Her and Renji eventually mend their bond though. They instantly forgive each other and he even tells her not to apologize.
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>>149522782
I think some of it has to do with spiting Orihime and Renji, who dared get in the way of Ichigo and Rukia having a romantic relationship.
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>>149522876

Or how he abandoned the rescue all together so he could fight grimmjow's.

Or how he abandoned orihime to save Rukia until the enemy who was the reason all his friends were in HM dying revealed himself.
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>>149522876
Threatening Orihime triggers him a lot. Not just threatening her, but claiming she's theirs now or shit like that gets him mad. Poor guy had to face two NTRing opponents.
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>>149522932
>the hate for orihime really skyrockets during the HM arc from IRfags
>kubo introduces loly who hates orihime for being beautiful/kind

what did kubo mean by this
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>>149522927
I know, but it gets me mad that Rukia didn't do shit unlike Renji and yet her fans act as if she was a saint.
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>>149522891
Why?
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>>149522917

>a story about the unintended consequences of actions is never more interesting than a played straight battle shounen

You must be fun at parties.
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>>149521788
Cheating is not something that shounen protagonists do. Also Ichigo doesn't likr Rukia that way.
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>>149522998
He's the who wanted to fucking kill her when he and Byakuya had to hunt her down from the Human World.
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>>149522958
>Or how he abandoned orihime to save Rukia until the enemy who was the reason all his friends were in HM dying revealed himself.
Nah, stop twisting shit. The reason he went after Ulquiorra was because Ulquiorra admitted to being the one that brought Orihime to HM. It had nothing to do with the fact that the others were brought into this. He even calls Ulquiorra a bastard and blames him for everyone thinking Orihime is a traitor.
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I'm ok with who ended up with. Orhime live alone for too long, now she have a family. you should be happy for her. Rukia and Renji were childhood friends. Both are spirit beings and have duties to do. I'm totally ok with this canon couples. It's logic.
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>>149523041
>Cheating is not something that shounen protagonists do.
You mean to tell not a single one has done that?
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>>149522990

Mistook fans tired of wasted panels of kurosaki-kun as hating his undeveloped and ignored main character of the arc.

But wait, that can't be it because you think Kubo writes well.
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>>149523079
>You mean to tell not a single one has done that?
Literally no. I mean kenshin had a wife before Kaoru, but she like died.
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>>149523060
>I'm okay with generic shit.
good for you.
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>>149523054

>stop twisting shit
>character interaction can only be interpreted one way, regardless how poorly or unclearly written it is
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>>149516493
>wrong cover
>fixed
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>>149522968
>sisters are brainwashed
>oldest friend aka tatsuki is brainwashed
>keigo and the others are brainwashed
>finally flips his shit when facebook calls orihime

what did kubo mean by this
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>>149522896
Nope. Bleach has tons of problems. Even long before the ending.

The fact that Rukia and Ichigo were never going to have a romantic relationship is not one of those problems.

You wanted something that was never going to happen and more to the point, you were bad for wanting it. It's a bad idea.
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>>149522990
That Aizen stopped fucking Loly and Menoly after Orihime's arrival in HM.
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>>149523159
It's not unclear though. Go re-read the chapter.
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>>149522360
>we will never see an sol spin off of them in the real world in gigis
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>shippershit
The spontaneous marriages are only one tiny part of the massive shitshow that is Bleach. Unfortunately, it's the only problem that ever gets any discussion in these threads because shipperfags are autistic.
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>>149522958
>Or how he abandoned the rescue all together so he could fight grimmjow's.
Did you forget what he said during the Grimmjow fight? His whole "I'm going to beat you then I'm going take Chad/Renji/Uryu/Rukia/Inoue and we're going home" or something like that.
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>>149521788
The guy enjoys IR tears too much for that.
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>>149522017
She's dead Jim.
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>>149523060
it make sense.
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>>149523266
What would you like to talk about anon? I'm up for anything.
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>>149523125
>implying that ichigo and rukia aka the first guy and girl introduced getting together isn't generic
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>>149523213
Ichigo is a bad friend and a shitty brother.
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>>149523409
>>149523490
Totally not samefagging.
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>>149523542
I had a huge spelling error so I deleted the old post. I'm not trying to hide anything.
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>>149522513
>Fight me
For what purpose? You're already losing to yourself.
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>>149523238
And then Loly became obsessed with Orihime, tried to rape and afterwards protecte her from Yammy.
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>>149523617
>For what purpose? You're already losing to yourself.
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>>149523060
>Orihime had a hard life
And yet somehow, some wanted more crap to fly her way.
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>>149523490

Not my problem if the writer gives them the most plot relevant screen time before he stopped giving a shit and spun his wheels for 300 chapters.

Maybe if he spent some of that SHOWING orihime becoming more plot relevant and developing her character outside of "future designated Ichigo cock holster because reasons" ichixruki would have less of a platform to stand on.
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>>149522513
Uryuu should have gotten with a sane Quincy woman, like Liltotto, if she aged during the ten years and survived or the one from Haschwalth's room.
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>>149523660
Rukia stopped being plot relevant right after her arc though? She basically disappears for the last two and the final arc lasted about 4 and half years. Shes literally gone half of the manga.
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Bleach would have been better if Toshiro was the MC.
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>>149523294

While the guy who "made orihime a traitor in SS eyes and tarnishing her honor" chilled off screen in a pocket dimension.

Which is it in the ulqiorra vs Ichigo fight?

Ichigo going stupid in his urge for a fight or a plot relevant battle over orihime's good name?
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>>149523712
So are most characters. Orihime is the character with the second most screentime, yet she appeared in less than half the chapters. Even characters like Ulquiorra appeared in like only 40 chapters.
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>>149523654
Kubo loves her too much to not give her a happy ending. You can easily tell which characters he really loves especially when they're not fan favorites. Mayuri, and Orihime are the first that come to mind.
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>>149523379
I'd like to talk about Grand Fisher and how stupidly misused he was and how the fucking protagonist has never ever mentioned him since their first fight. Just what the fuck?

I also don't understand how the Seireitei actually operates. People die all the time, right? So does that mean there's a Shinigami deployed on every ~square mile of land over the entire world? If each Division has only about 3000 members, there's no way that could possibly work, especially with the amounts of people they keep stationed in SS. How could they possibly keep up with the death rate without having hunderds of thousands Shinigami on standby in every part of the world?

Why were the Quincies generally known to be archers but almost none of the Quincies in the last arc were archers?
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>>149523677
Ishida and Nemu was interesting.
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>>149523712
Yet Rukia was still considered a better candidate than Orihime.
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>>149523712
Rukia didn't stop being relevant. She still had a character arc during the Arrancar saga and developed alot during her fights with Aaroniero and Äs Nödt, both which gave her closure to her quilt over Kaien and inferior complex regarding Byakuya respectively.
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>>149523770
>Why were the Quincies generally known to be archers but almost none of the Quincies in the last arc were archers?
This one REALLY gets to me.
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>>149523712

Except when she's returned in the arrancar arc then got gut speared by grimmjow's.

And when she fought not-kaien.

And then after Ichigo loses his powers and we get their fade away scene.

Then, boom, bleach goes to complete shit.
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>>149523778
But Uryuu must create the next generation of Quincy. Also his and Nemu's child would suffer from Soul Suicide, since it would be a Quincy-Shinigami-human hybrid that lacks the hollow parts.
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>>149523801
Candidate for what?
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>>149523765
Mayuri lost his number 7 though. Actually Mayuri and Kenpachi had this kinda bittersweet end.
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>>149523801
Who considered?you?
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>255 replies 40 posters

The Kubo circle jerk continues
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>>149523815
The previous anon was talking about importance to the plot overall. To me Aizen and Urahara had more importance to the entire plot, especially Aizen since he was revealed he basically planned Ichigos birth.
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>>149523874
And Komamura's was just bitter. Well I won't compain, because his story throughout the series was tragic and quite well executed. Not bad for a character, who all things considered is not that important.
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>>149520585
Shunsui already made Orihime drunk in Honey Dish Rhapsody.
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>>149523899

>importance to the plot overall
>plot overall
>bleach plot overall including post SS

HA!
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>>149523660
IR anon, just stop. Go back to posting at Deathberry or wherever you IRs like to congregate now.
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>>149523899
Well the first half of Bleach was basically just a giant chess game between the two. The second half answered the question, of who provided the chess board.
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>>149523973
Deathberry is collapsing upon itself. One of the mods freaked the fuck out when hearing about the RR wedding novel.
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>>149523973
>Go back to posting at Deathberry
But Deathberry is going under.
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>>149523973
>TFW you got banned from DB
I was enjoying the fall out despite my OTP dying.
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>>149523770
Do all people who die need a shinigami to guide them or only the ones who linger? Bleach has been inconsistent with this from what I remember.

Maybe only Japanese people have souls.
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>>149524172
I heard they started banning everyone when the final chapter released.
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>>149523331
No
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>>149524188
>Maybe only Japanese people have souls.

Was this the real message all along?
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>>149523973
>DB
Wants you to move on.
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>>149524188
Even a random fat otaku fuck stayed behind as a ghost. I'm pretty sure everybody who dies turns into a plus.
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>>149523973

What?

There are people on this board autistic enough to say IxR has no merit in the manga and are willing to raise kubo's writing and planning in order to bolster that position.

What's wrong with laughing at them?

There are people in this very thread who are pleased with HOW Kubo chose to show relationship development.

And these people excuse glaring issues with the nonromantic narrative because of two chapters of shinigami babies.
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>>149524244

Yamamoto-daishi.

Nipponocentrism? In a MANGA?
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>>149524193
You got banned if you weren't a regular poster. I joined years ago but never actually posted there.
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>>149524274
IR anon, nobody cares about your ship. You lost. Get over it and move on.
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>>149524188
I believe different areas have different systems of afterlife. For example, the United States's system would resemble something from Abrahamic religions, or maybe Native legends. This isn't supported by any databooks or anything, I'm just taking a guess.
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>The anime continues.
>It gets an IchiRuki ending.
That way everyone is happy.
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>>149524311
>Nipponocentrism? In a MANGA?
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>>149524449
>>The anime continues.
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>>149520036
>>149520853
>>149521068
>>149522896
>>149524274

>shinigami babies

Why do hate Kazui and Ichika so much? Did they hurt you? Did they kill your cereal and pissed in your dog?
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>>149524520
That's what people said about Inuyasha and D.Gray-Man. I'm still surprised about that one.
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>>149524548
>? Did they kill your cereal and pissed in your dog?
You got it backwards anon.
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>>149524193
No, they only banned inactive members and locked the place so no one could make new accounts.

Either way, I can confirm the general section is being deleted soon so the place is as good as dead.
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>>149524662
Nah, Kazui will grow up to be a cereal killer.
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>>149524548

They snowed enough people to not care about all the unresolved plot points Kubo can't be asked to explain despite being given plenty of time to do so.

All while being the embodiment of kubo's worse writing trait. Now his CHARACTERS are making characters.
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>>149524548
Kazui and Ichika
Burrito and Salad
Albus Severus Sirius Hagrid Hedwig Dobby Tonks Potter
It's all the same uncreative shit.
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>>149516493
>The last one was deleted for some reason
Do you really need a reason
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>>149524548
Of all the things bleach needed, new characters was not one of them!
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>>149524411

But every time people bring up plot issues and pacing in bleach all ichihime shippers circle the wagons lest people start poking holes in kubo's laughable canon romantic development.
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>>149524724
Don't forget the DB kids and Kenshins kid. It's a typical fighting shounen end. It was so obvious that Ichigo was going to have a child in the end, especially a boy as the firstborn since he's a big brother himself and Kazui carries on the same whole name thing, but his name means courage.
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>>149524812
>But every time people bring up plot issues and pacing in bleach

You mean whining over IchiRuki not being canon and using Bleach's sub-par pacing and dropped plot-points to justify your hatred over the canon ships.
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>>149524803
Kubo can't write without bringing new characters every now and then. You should have been accustomed by Kubo'a writing style after 300 chapters.
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>>149524912
>>149524724
I wonder what Luffy and Namis kid will be called?
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>>149524689
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>>149524959

>look at all these unresolved plot points, Kubo isn't a good writer
>shut up and Fawn over these two new characters Kubo just drew and introduced in the last chapter of his manga

Ichihime.

Bleach's casuals.

BLEACH's casuals.
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>>149524976
Luffy will die in the end.
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>>149524959

You probably liked Mass Effect 3's ending and thought people were angry that it was "too sad".
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>>149523874
All Kenpachi wanted was to find enjoyment in fights
In the process of powering up, he devoured two people he cared about the most
Was it worth it, Kenpachi?
Was it worth it?
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>>149524548
Only salty Ichirukis don't like kazui and ichika.
They're awesome.
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>>149525178

Why didn't he just swing his sword with both hands and his dick if he wanted a power up?
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>>149525077
Except that many people, including IHfags, acknowledge the fact that the final chapters were rushed and dropped many plot points. They're just looking at the glass half-full by enjoying the few good parts of the finale instead of just focusing on the bad.

Compare that to the autistic segment of the IR fanbase who never gave a shit about the manga and are now saying that Bleach is shit because Ichigo isn't dicking Rukia.
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>>149525313
I'm going to be real with you. IchiRuki would have been the saving grace for this shitshow but we couldn't have that.
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>>149525242

>my taste is so shit I have taste buds on my asshole

Ichihime in all its retarded glory. Willing to celebrate bleach getting worse in order to pretend everyone talking about bleach's issues is making drinkable tears.

Let's go raid habbo hotel. That was REALLY lulzy.
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>>149524548
Kazui and Ichika is cute. Kubo should make a comfy sol about them.
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>>149525313

>glass half full

The glass was always empty.

All we saw was Kubo pour water down a drain in front of us.
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>>149525358
Lol I can't believe two little kids make you so mad. Take a chill pill ichiruki-chan.
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>>149525350
>IchiRuki would have been the saving grace
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>>149525446
It really would've for a good portion of what was left of the bleach fandom
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>>149525358
>habbo hotel
You are too young for this site.
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>>149525350

I'd be fucking PISSED if Kubo gave IxR the ichihime post time skip treatment.

The characters' relationship deserves better.
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>>149525350
It would have been more widely accepted by fans but it still wouldn't have fixed all the other bullshit problems.
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>>149525488
We would have just had Bleach: The Last. The fans would have wanted a movie.
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>>149525475
Shippers don't make up such a huge portion back in Japan, sorry to break it to you. It's just that IRfags are so fucking vocal in the West that they've convinced everyone that they're above any other bleach fan and that they basically run everything and that if Kubo doesn't give them an IR ending, he basically killed his career.
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>>149525484

Why?

You're so intent on trying to turn the issue with bleach endings into narusaku redux I figure you might be down for other old shit like ordering pizza to Scientologists.
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>>149525350
I like Ichihime don't mean Bleach is less shitty to me.
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>>149525551
IchiRukifags were the ones CARRYING this series throughout all the years. Since the very beginning.
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>>149525438

I can't believe you are so willing to accept shit in entertainment you've been following for years.
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>>149525614
Lol no.
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>>149525574
>I figure you might be down for other old shit like ordering pizza to Scientologists.
What does this sentence even mean?
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>>149525614

Nice try ichihime false flag.
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>>149525614
You IRfags aren't that important. Sorry m8.
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>>149525667
They came at a time where Bleach was shit and not when it was actually good (the beginning), so all this nonsense is passable for them, since they weren't around for quality Bleach. They only came around when the Hueco Mundo memes started.
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>>149525574
>I figure you might be down for other old shit like ordering pizza to Scientologists.
Ok, seriously who let these people in the thread.
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>>149525782
The SS arc was good, but stop acting like it was the pinnacle of fighting shounen manga.
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>>149525687

It means you want so DESPERATELY to be in on delicious tears you'll shit up a board to paint all criticism as fanwanking while they try to discuss where, how, and when bleach failed as a story.

The same thing happened with raids over on/b back in 07.
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>>149525841
>Implying Bleach didn't go downhill AT the SS arc.
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>>149525854
No one is arguing that bleach went to shit though. We're just arguing that the canon endgame pairings didn't ruin it, because they didn't.
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>>149524382
>You got banned if you weren't a regular poster
Literally worse than Hitler.
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>>149525880
Karakura town was the best arc.
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>>149525841

Pinnacle of fighting manga?

No.

Pinnacle of bleach?

Absolutely.

If bleach had bothered to close a quarter of its hanging plot threads satisfactorily it would have been the pinnacle of shounen.
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>>149525880
>Implying Bleach didn't go downhill AT the SS arc.
You got me there. It had its good moments, but people act as if its the best arc to come out of JUMP.
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>>149525614
>IchiRukifags were the ones CARRYING this series throughout all the years. Since the very beginning.

dat egoism
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>>149525948
> it would have been the pinnacle of shounen.
You don't read much manga do you?
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>>149525915

>just arguing that endgame pairings didn't ruin it

They didn't.

They're just further examples of kubo's shit writing we've seen in other parts of the manga.
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To be honest, I consider the Vizard/Arrancar arc to be Bleach's peak. In my opinion it had the best art, The Vizards had great designs, and it brought the SS and their shit in the Urban Town setting. It's a shame it got cut short for Mexico.
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>>149525350
>IchiRuki would have been the saving grace for this shitshow

Your tears are the saving grace of this shitshow.
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>>149525948
>If bleach had bothered to close a quarter of its hanging plot threads satisfactorily it would have been the pinnacle of shounen.

Given all its other flaws...no, I wouldn't say that.
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another thread ruined by ichiruki shipperfags. thx.
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>>149526048
I know. Things would have been so peaceful if IchiRuki actually happened.
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>>149516493
My waifu is sad. I want to hug the Hime.
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>>149525667
I really liked the ending. As long as Orihime was happy I can be happy.
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>>149526048
They always do this shit when something new happens. They come here to win and rage and be negative.

First it was with the final volume cover, now they're here because of the novel and interview. It'll probably be the same when the RR wedding novel is released next month. They'll come to complain about how IR should've happened and whatnot.
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>>149525614
>IchiRukifags were the ones CARRYING this series throughout all the years
How does one even reach this level of delusion?
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>>149526101
This is actually true.
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>>149526020
I think the beginning of the final arc up to the Bambietta fight was the best written part and peak of Bleach.
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>>149525989

I don't.

Unless I can get a sense of something new or interesting happening in the story.

Kubo got me good.
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>>149526048
There's like one ichiruki fag and 10 ichihime fags.
There are only 40 something posters even in this thread.
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>>149526116
Big-name shippers like Debbie who convinced their fanbases that they know Kubo personally and what-not. How they're penpals with him and how he personally promised them more Ichiruki romance. Of course no one questioned this and just believed her. They're like a cult.
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>>149525667
There are other, more important things in life to get worked up about than easily replaceable entertainment.

Look, you placed your happiness and faith in the hands of a foreign man you don't know, in an industry with many flaws, because of an image of perfection you came up with in your mind. Then your faith is shattered when that man did what he wants and not what you want. That's just how faith works. It's nothing but hollow hope. Even when you're lucky and things go the way you want, it's just coincidence. Next time, be a non-believer and you'll be able to enjoy life more for what it is.
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>>149526101
>expecting IR shippers to be peaceful if their pairing got canon status.

Anon, have you seen their fandom? "Peaceful" is the last thing IR shippers would be.
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>>149526160
Bambietta was so cute! Her hat specially.
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Ichiruki fags need to be banned from /a/.
We ichihim/a/ now
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>>149526187
Would you IchiHimefucks stop spreading your gossip?
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>>149526216
She didn't look bad even in death.
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>>149526218
Fuck you. Ichiwhoever is shit.
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>>149526048
Can they be banned already?

Cancer should be removed before it contaminates everything.
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>>149526250
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>>149526227
I want some comfy discussion. You fucker are here to ruin that. Get banned please.
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>>149526115

>no one saying the'd shut up if IxR was made canon by Kubo

Ichihime, gotta protect the ship good taste, canon, and terrible endings be damed.
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>>149526218
The IchiHimefags are the ones who need to get banned since they are the ones that start shit with their bragging.
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>>149526216
I liked her.
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>>149526227
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>>149526284
>Get banned please.
After you.
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Please report all ichiruki fags so they get banned.
We should be able to discuss Ichihime, THE CANON PAIRING, without harassment.
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>>149526291
As if you won't be insufferable had Ichigo ended up with Rukia.
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>>149526194

Except we're on a Mongolian throat singing image boards talking about nip comics and Chinese cartoons.

Stop being so thin skinned, shit taste-kun.
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>>149526291
No one even talks about shipping until the ugly, disgruntle and feral Ichiruki extremists arrive.
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>>149526340
Please kill yourself.
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>>149526299
>top secret 2010 movie project in the US
Whatever happened to that, stuck in development hell like Cowboy Bebop?
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>>149526356
They're always in the threads. They just react when you fucks start to shittalk IchiRuki and try to meme it.
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>>149526384
You first. Now that IR didn't happen what do you have to live for?
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>>149526295
She reminds me of Esdeath
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>>149526407
We live to educate those that somehow think it was not THE best ship in the entire series.
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>>149526299
Here's the full first page.
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>>149526342

We'd be bitching about plot holes we could drive trucks through and how the relationship upgrade seemed lackluster after what we saw in the SS arc.

Your move ichihimefags.
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>>149526435
It's the hat.
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>>149526450
>how the relationship upgrade seemed lackluster after what we saw in the SS arc.
Fucking bullshit. You guys were expecting canon Ichiruki because of the JUMP sticker news.
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You guys are being silly again. Why are you guys so wound up lately? Is it the election? Just relax and have fun.
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>>149526436
>IchiRuki
>the best ship
>not Kubo x Ichiruki shippers' tears
>>
>bait rival shipfags
>complain about them ruining threads
You're all faggots.
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>>149526340

>talking about the waste of potential that is bleach is harassment

Ichihimefag need a safespace?
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>>149526295
It's understandable why Gigi had the hots for her.
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There will never be peace in this fandom until Kubo rewrites the ending by giving it more chapters and making IchiRuki canon.
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>>149526436
>educate those
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>>149526450
>everyone that is not ONE OF US are ichihimefags
This is why people likes to drink your tears.
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>>149526558
The posters in this thread ARE Himefags though. They don't hide it.
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>>149526494
>tfw you will never have Hime break bread with you
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>>149526543
>Thinking that making IchiRuki canon would save Bleach
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>>149526543
Ichirukists are true terrorists.
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>>149526494
I think Trump is Ichihime. Hillary is Ichiruki.
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>>149526605
>Trump is Ichihime. Hillary is Ichiruki.
You IRfags are so dramatic.
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>>149526583
>all these anonymous people of unknown numbers are Himefags because I SAID SO
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>>149526605
I'm voting independent.
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>>149526605
Trump would bang his own daughter, he is clearly IchiYuzu
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>>149526583
Some are. Some aren't. There are also sane Rukiafags like the DB anon.

All Bleachfags hate IRtards.
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>>149526529
/a/ is the best place on the Internet to discuss ichihime. I'm sorry if that offends your ichiruki sensibilities. Please go somewhere else to discuss ichiruki. There are lots of ichiruki spaces on the Internet. We don't want you here.
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>>149526624
But Trump is better
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Holy shit, Ichirukifags once AGAIN ruined another thread with their whining. This thread is going to be hell when the Renruki novel is released.
>>
Last disaster thread went up to 810, I wonder how long this one will be. The thread after that one was decent with the Nnoitra discussion, was it because there's no Bleach in the title or because of the time?
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>>149526710
I think we need to ignore their reply
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>>149526637
Might as well not show up.
Do you really think they're evil at the same level?
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>>149526676
>/a/ is the best place on the Internet to discuss ichihime.
Remember the old days when you were banned on sight for it? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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>>149526710
Keep baiting.
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>>149526647
Trump is Nanao/Shunsui
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>>149526647
Trump would probably ship something like IchibeexBambietta.
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Fuck off LoN, you turbo autist.
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Damn, I don't even like Rukia but seeing so many of her "fans" turn on her was pretty fucked up. They basically put all her worth into the guy she fucked in the end.
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>>149526762
That's karma for Ichiruki
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>>149524255
What was actually the reaction to this and what was the post that made her react like that in the first place? Can someone post that?
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>>149526764
Not bait, its true. They always do this shit when something new happens. They expected Kubo to be shamed out of Japan and for no more Bleach stuff, but then the two light novels were announced and ones focusing on the Renruki wedding. They just keep getting their asses handed to them so they come here to complain and bitch about the same shit.
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If IchiRuki was confirmed, we wouldn't be in this mess. We would all just high-five each other because at least SOMETHING good came out of this bullshit series and talk about how much Kubo screwed the pooch with the plot.

But things can't be that easy, can they?
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>>149526796
Rukia doesn't have any fans. Just ugly girls who shelf inset as her ugly self to be with Ichigo. Hot girls self insert as Orihime but they are also true fans.
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>>149526856
According to DBanon, the user Saiyan simply posted the news about the light novels. One is covering the wedding of Rukia x Renji though so I guess that triggered her.
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>>149526216
Bambi-chan the cutest Quincy!

giselle is cuter though
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>>149526872
Why don't you just shut up? You are not in the position to determine who is a "real" fan of x.
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>>149526870
(You)
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>>149526605
Let's build a wall and keep the IRfags out. They're bringing in shitposts and ugly fanarts. Make /a/ great again.
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>>149526796
This guy >>149526872 is just shitposting, but I've been seriously considering for a long while that there may be no Rukiafags, just Ichirukifags and lolicons.
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>>149526904
Giselle is the best Quincy, followed by Askin.

Bambi is only good for play.

Yhwach for worst Quincy,
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I wish IRcucks and IHtards would fuck off. Go yell at each other in BA or tumblr or wherever else.
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Well, since this thread can't get much more stupid...did any of you make an OC for this series?
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More Bambi
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>>149526796
How are her fans turning on her? As far as you know, they are doing this because they want whats best for her. None of her fans have called her a slut, bitch, shit, or whatever.
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>>149522932
> That feeling when kubo created a character based on ir fangirls

Amazing
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>>149526904
And the cutest together. Though there is not much choice if you want to ship Quincy or like Quincy in general. Those are like one of the very few Quincy relationships that the manga showed. Only others are Bazz-B and Haschwalth and IchiIshi. Though three were not bad.
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>>149527009
Rabid IR stans don't care for Rukia, only their IchiRuki fantasies get their real love.
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>>149526993
Too bad she appeared when Bleach was losing popularity. We could have got more fanart.
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>>149526964
Nah, Bambietta had a surprising amount of depth, once you remember that Giselle can't change or control those zombified after death, All the submissiveness, shyness, lack of self-confidence, masochism and gayness were part of Bambietta's true personality. It's like all the previous behavior was more like an act.
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>>149527009
>they are doing this because they want whats best for her

-Mends her relationship with Renji and starts a healthy one with Byakuya at the end of SS arc.
-Avenges Kaien in her own way during her fight in the HM arc. After that all her sorrow/guilt/shame over his death is truly gone
-FB arc, revealed to have gone up a rank
-Final arc she gets her bankai reveal, a decent fight, Byakuya finally acknowledges her strength, makes captain, marries renji and has a cute daughter with him

She was just an orphan and now shes a captain of the Gotei 13. She had no family and her sister died, but now she has Renji and a daughter. She did great for herself.

I've seen her "fans" call her a whore btw.
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>>149527009
By making her a pairing fodder only.
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>>149527165
What fucking closure moment are they talking about?
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If Orihime and Rukia had sex, who would be top, who would be a bottom?
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>>149527279
They switch.
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>>149519501
News flash: It isn't 2012
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>>149527165
They always sound so insecure when they talk about Orihime and how loved she is.

Love yourselves.
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>>149521788
Rukia is unfuckable
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>>149527279
Rukia would be top. Didn't Ukitake ship the two?
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>>149527235
Them kissing right before they head into the final battle and Rukia freezes Yuhabach's time so that Ichigo cut all his possible future with a dimension slash at the same time.
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>>149526659
Thanks, anon.

Still laughing about that one person accusing me of liking IH just because I don't support insanity.
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>>149527279
Hime top,Rukia bottom. I think Ichigo and Renji force them to do yuri occasionally.
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>>149527334
>Rukia freezes Yuhabach's time
I thought she was going to talk to the remaining hogyoku inside of her and convince it to pick a new soul king.
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>>149527279
Am I the only who sees Rukia as a complete bottom regardless of her brash personality?
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>>149519077
Because it was ending and there was more material to cover? The fact that the anime didn't get renewed just goes to show you have few people actually give a shit about Bleach now.
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>>149527400

Rukia tops.

Trufax.
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>461 / 69 / 53

Sure is samefag in here.
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>>149527332
Ichika proves otherwise.
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>>149527438
If D gay man can get anime so can Bleach.
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>>149527514
They're so cute.
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>>149527522
D Gray Man's manga was starting again though, so they had something to advertise. Bleach's ended.
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>>149527400
Renji knows
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>>149527397
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>469 / 71 / 53

Most of /a/ already dropped Bleach. Can't you Bleachfags take this shit somewhere else? Even Narutofags knew when to stop and fuck off.
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>>149527588
After Bleach live action there is a possibility.
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>>149527588
Tell that Inuyasha.
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>>149527600
"she is certainly well-equipped to deal with yamamotos bankai"

enough
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>>149527609
>Bring back the Bleach anime
>Manga is over so no more books to push
>Merchandise doesn't exist because everyone stopped buying it
>Anime was originally cancelled for low ratings and low sales
>"B-BUT THERE'S A CHANCE"
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>>149527165
Wanting to see the best of Rukia = IchiRuki. Their dynamic is what most Rukiafags love.
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>>149527620
>comparing Rumiko Takahashi to Kubo
Are you, perhaps, high?

>>149527609
Nah, that's pretty irrelevant.
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>>149527600
This is better than Ichiruki circlejerking.
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>>149527620
Inuyasha was popular and people bought things related to Inuyasha.

Beach is not popular and nobody buys anything related to Bleach.
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>>149527600
That one cracks me up every time.
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>>149527605
At this point it's only the most delusional of morons combined with obsessive shitposters.
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>>149527692
Inuyasha was much less popular by the time it ended than Bleach.
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>>149527681
Kyokai no Rinne Is getting season after season with 2+ rating. Bleach can pull that.
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>>149527767
Isn't Urusei Yatsura her most famous work back in Japan?
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>>149527767
Yet RT is a far more popular mangaka than kubo. Why do you think Kyokai no Rinne has an anime?

>>149527796
That's not the point though. The mangaka behind the work is the reason they are adapting it. Kubo is nowhere near her.
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>>149527692
Inuyasha sold less than 200k at later arcs. Bleach can certainly get manga boost with new anime.
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>>149527692
Bleach has merchandise, but does it sell well? Merchandise is often more important than anime or manga sales as they are the real factor for generating revenue.
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>>149527847
Ranma is her best selling manga by a long shot
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>Bleach sold 82 million
wtf
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>>149527913
?

Bleach sells like 600+k a volume, and backlog sales.
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>>149528177
>Bleach sells like 600+k a volume
Seriously, how does Kubo do it?
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>>149528177
>Bleach sells like 600+k a volume
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it's at around 400-450k for V73.
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>>149527181
She was zombified before death, wasn't she? When the girls found Bambi she was alive.
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>>149528215
Bambietta is a Quincy. Quincy have to die before they become zombies.
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>>149528150
90 between 1-73 actually, 82 was 2 years ago. I'll end with 91 I assume thanks to the final volume, if the movie is good then expect more sales too, they're actually re-releasing 3 in 1 volumes in Japan right now.
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>>149528203
>Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it's at around 400-450k for V73.

The manga keeps selling after it drops from the charts anon.

4 volumes a year, 2.8 million. Backlog sales are usually between 150-300k.

Do your math
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>>149528423
>The manga keeps selling after it drops from the charts anon.
Yet the charts include changes from like 15k. V73 never got back into the list after it disappeared somewhere at 370k or something. Assuming that it sold more than 100k lowkey without getting back into the chart is plain stupid.
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>>149528375
https://www.amazon.co.jp/BLEACH-%E6%AD%BB%E7%A5%9E%E4%BB%A3%E8%A1%8C%E7%AF%87-%E9%82%82%E9%80%85-%E9%9B%86%E8%8B%B1%E7%A4%BE%E3%83%AA%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9/dp/4081135975/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1478565130&sr=8-3&keywords=bleach

Link for those interested,
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>>149528484
It disappeared at 387k. It probably crossed 500k.
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>>149528484
>Assuming that it sold more than 100k lowkey without getting back into the chart is plain stupid.
Except series do it all the time?

Again
>4 volumes a year, 2.8 million. Backlog sales are usually between 150-300k.

>Do your math
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>>149528564
>It probably crossed 500k.
>Assuming that it sold more than 100k lowkey without getting back into the chart is plain stupid.
You can assume 500k that in a year, but clearly not now.
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>>149528581
>Except series do it all the time?
Only during a longer period of time OR by getting back into the chart. You can't sell just a bit less than what you need to enter the chart every week and still make half of what you initially sold.
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>>149528587
Yeah I meant yearly sale.
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>>149528803
Nah, they clearly came from backlogs sales being huge as NnT's were in 2015. Doesn't mean the actual, realistic Volume sales are super huge.
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What are the sales for v74?
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>>149529094
We don't know yet but its selliing fine.
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>>149529198
Thanks, anon. I'm interested to see the final sales. I think it will do well.
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>>149527600
>This isn't Hitsugaya's ice, which gets shrugged off every time he uses it
So how did they feel about the Gerard fight and Byakuya basically dismissing Rukia as too weak to help?
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>>149527609
There is none, anon. Not with this kind of production value.
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>>149529910
Hitsugaya's older brother pretty much told her and Renji that Gerard was out their league too.
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>>149529910
Biggest waste of time. All those battles were anticlimactic.

Also, those fights should have been dedicated to Ichigo's friends and not those overexposed captains.
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>>149528252
Come to think of it, are the Vandenreich quincies dead or alive? They were all killed by shinigami before, wasn't they? I became a binge reader towards the end so quincy timeline is mostly lost on me. Why aren't the Ishidas and Kurosakis in Vandenreich?
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>>149530118
Ichigo's friends are too weak, especially Chad, who should've learned his place and stay in Karakura with the likes of Tatsuki and Keigo. Only Uryuu should logically have relevancy. Even Renji and Rukia didn't deserve being trained in Royal Realm, they're only there due to plotkai and popularity.
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>>149530080
Hitsugaya's older brother and Rukia's older brother should hang out more, they look great together.
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