Can we talk about retarded subbers who think this is acceptable?

You mean, "can we get a thread where everyone validates my opinion even though it's wholly irrelevant"? No thanks.

>>149509535
No, OP is right. I am sick of seeing memeshit in my subs when I am trying to understand the fucking language word for word, not because some translator thinks its funny to add in some western memeshit.

>>149509448
I agree with this sentiment.

If you know so much about Japanese then why don't you just watch it raw?

>>149509448
At least it's not an actual mistranslation, Mr. OP.

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>>149509448
This guy is suppose to be their friend and he's a teen

>>149509649
I don't think it's asking too much of someone that's watching a Japanese show Japan with Japanese characters in Japan speaking Japanese to maybe just learn a little bit about Japanese culture, like 4 honorifics.
Why stop at localizing the honorific? Why not localize everything? -San is now Mr., Onigiri are now jelly donuts, Ryosuke is now Richard, Tokyo is now New York, because God forbid an American should be forced to care about a different country.

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>>149509448
>Mr First name

I agree

Fuck this garbage, everybody knows what san mans and has no issue with reading Chad-san

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I don't like this kind of vocabulary in my anime

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>>149509448
Hey Mr Yosuke could you give me back that DVD you borrowed?

>>149509448
This would make a perfect banner for /fit/

>>149509448
More than the fact that shit like this is anti-weeb, I'm bother by the fact that it's just a bad translation. When fucking highschool characters call their classmates Mr. or Ms. Name, it's retarded on more levels than I can fathom. That's ESL-tier subbing, except instead of normal ESL dictionary "It's more authentic if it's 1:1 broken English!" they try to make it more authentic by trying to localize every single word uttered with what the perceive to be an English equivalent.

>>149509928
lel

>>149509448
Can we hang the people responsible for IBO first?

>>149509448
>>149509535
I'm with OP on this one.
Keeping the integrity of the meaning is first and foremost. There was a sub group years back that had trouble with Nakama in One Piece because the meaning doesn't have a direct english translation, and thus had to use the actual word with a big text wall explaining why they're using it.

>>149509535
>huehuehue im such a smart ass look at me guys, I'm the class clown
fuck off
>>149509649
see above

>>149509448
Calling out subbers for not being weebu enough is kinda funny.

>>149510088
I'm curious, how do kiddies in merica refer to their teacher? Here in Spain we just use their first name.

This thread is going places, like every thread about translations.

>>149510165
I would personally do commie style subs for 3 shows each season if we could hang Okada.

>>149510554
Kids? Mr. or Mrs. (lastname). The problem is when they make kids call their classmates Mr. or Ms. anything. That literally never happens ever.

>>149509448
>needing subs

>>149510326
nice way to samefag tour way to acceptance

>>149509448
>character says Araya-Shiki
>subs say Alaya-Vijnana
This triggers my Buddhism.

I think the only thing we can all agree on is that there's no solution that will please everyone, and these threads are proof of that.

They are in fucking America and most of them are from space. They are not Japanese and thus wouldn't talk that way.

But please how would you translate it?

>>149510761
Into the language they are speaking

And American teenagers dont call their close friends Mr. First Name

>>149510554
>first name
Oh man, really? Here in Italy it would be extremely rude, even in elementary school.

>>149510761
Not to mention Chad was older than them and their joss hence MR.

>>149510797
*BOSS
>>149510787
That kid in the OP has one friend and it's not Chad. Chad is his superior officer.

>>149510833
Is Chad her >>149509771 superior officer too?

OP, I'd recommend you learn Japanese if you feel so strongly about subs.

>>149510731
>there's no solution that will please everyone
Everyone should learn moon to watch anime raw, and be at a native level for English speaking to discuss anime here.

>>149509448
P R O F E S S I O N A L S U B B E R S

>出来ない
ｗｗ

Better than translating it as name-honorific. That's a slippery slope and soon you're writing according to keikaku, t/n keikaku means plan.

I don't even notice shit like this while watching. Why don't you get therapy for your autism?

>>149512661
>Better than translating it as name-honorific
No it's not.

>That's a slippery slope and soon you're writing according to keikaku, t/n keikaku means plan.
No it's not, because keikaku has a direct 1:1 English translation that means the same thing in all scenarios. Stop talking out of your ass.

>Why don't you get therapy for your autism?
Why don't you stop pretending you have any idea what you're talking about?

>>149509448
>Anyone watching subs is a weaboo
>im a newshit who uses normalfag interpretations of standard /a/ lingo

>>149512741
Calm down weaboo

>>149509448
Who is this sperm worm?

While we are at it can we please get karaoke added back. Especially the highlighted kind so I know when to sing

>>149510554
Russia here, first name + patronymic is the default way to refer to someone in a higher position/just older than you. Last name basis is generally for people under you and first name basis is for equals.

>>149510554
>That's ESL-tier subbing
>Well here in Spain we do it just like that
derp

>>149510894
She is 100% not Japanese and would respond to him as MR too because she has fucking manners.

>>149509790
>with Japanese characters in Japan
The one in OP's picture isn't Japanese characters in Japan, though.

>>149510088
>"It's more authentic if it's 1:1 broken English!"
Fuck my ass. As a slightly subpar translator, this is what I hate the most in fan translation work. You should be able to speak the language you're translating to.

Can't translators just try to use context to figure out what Mr/Mrs is appropriate?

I think its pretty clear that in this scenario just a first name would be better.

>>149509448
>>149510326
This is very simple. If you're including Japanese words that are not part of common speech, YOU ARE NOT FUCKING TRANSLATING. The entire point of translating something is to make something in one language easily understandable by someone speaking a different language. If there is no direct equivalent (and there isn't for many words, languages are like that), then you use the closest thing to it. That's literally what translating is. Anything else is your own weebo autism insisting on arbitrary standards for pseudo-translations.

Don't like it? Learn to speak fucking japanese.

>>149509448
>Can we talk about retarded subbers
How about no?

>>149515137
Anon we're already talking about them

>>149515113
Fuck off back to Rebbit, "Lady Ryuuko"

>>149509448
>San is just a polite form of address it does not mean Mr.

We're american, well mostly mexican, why should we be autistic about addressing people? Japan can stay autistic. I just watch animu to fwap and selfinsert.

>>149510326
>Nakama
What is "Platonic BFF substitute for romance in shonen faggotry"?

Paraphrasing muthhafukka, can you roundtable it?

>>149515159
What the fuck is a "Lady Ryuuko"?
And learn japanese, you pathetic weeb.

>>149509448
>Mr. Chad
>not Comrade Chad

>>149515113
stay in r/anime

>>149515251
Learn Chinese. Japanese is a secondary lingua.

>>149515786
Chinese is useless though.

>>149515786
>learn Chinese
lol don't be a fucking retard.

Learning Chinese will make the company you work for deal with Chinese and travel to china. Have you ever interacted with Chinese people or been to china? Its awful.

Learn any language you want but consider the people and country you will deal with for knowing that language if you intend to use it for professional use. Otherwise who gives a fuck what you learn?

>>149516349
>Have you ever interacted with Chinese people or been to china? Its awful.
why

>>149509448
If you can understand it then who cares about what the subs shows during that part, does it bother you that much?

Why would a bunch of martian children use japanese honorifics? How is it wrong to not include the honorifics in the subs?

>>149517457
>Why would a bunch of martian children use japanese honorifics?
Because they are literally saying them? You can hear it, you have ears, right?

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>>149516349
>>149515936
What talking you, mat? I learn cheena to read Wuxia and Xianxia WNs, like a true patrician.

OP sauce?

>>149517687
Because they're talking in japanese for the convenience of the japanese audience. I seriously doubt they're actually talking in japanese in universe.
They're also saying kidou senshi, why not leave it at that instead of mobile suit?
Also, you have ears as well, right?
So you can hear the honorifics, so why do you care about the subs this much?

>>149517893
>Because they're talking in japanese for the convenience of the japanese audience. I seriously doubt they're actually talking in japanese in universe.
No they don't. Watch Drifters.

Because Kidou Senshi as a direct translations you inbred fuck.

>>149517865
no one cares about your Korean shit broski, not even them.

>>149515211
It's called camraderie you illiterate ape.

>>149509448
If "mr" or similar words don't fit the scene, don't add anything at all and just use their fucking name.

english is an inherantly less polite language than japanese, the meaning of the sentence is the exact same

>>149510326
> There was a sub group years back that had trouble with Nakama in One Piece because the meaning doesn't have a direct english translation

but it does, 'comrade' and/or just 'friend' depending on the context

>>149517919
>Watch Drifters

What the fuck that has to do with anything? You problably think anime taking place outside of Japan or in fantasy worlds they are also speaking japanese.

Fuck off retard.

>>149517687
I didn't know that all the 1920's american-itallian gangsters in baccano spoke japanese

>>149517919
Drifters is a fucking exception and that's something I actually like about it. Normally the characters always talk in japanese even when they should be speaking other languages
Like Baccano!. Why would fucking American mafiosos speak in japanese?
Kill yourself, retardd

>>149518041
WATCH FUCKING DRIFTERS

>>149518109
No, Drifters isn't an exception to the rule, its the norm. Stop pretending and being autistic.

>>149517919
>Watch Drifters.
They already used convenient magic paper to avoid having any character speak anything but Japanese again.

>>149518021
Comrade is never a good choice because of the association. Friend is a little lacking but probably the best option.

>>149518145
When the protagonists aren't around you can still ear them speak moonspeak. Only when the protagonists are on scene you hear them speak Japanese.

>>149518129
You're wrong, anime is full of nonsense like non-Japanese characters prostrating themselves on the floor in apology to each other.

>>149518222
I would refute that but I don't want to redownload the latest episode. I'm pretty sure the people in the keep where the elven girls were held captive were speaking Japanese to each other before they got attacked. If you have it you can check.

>>149518225
Oh yeah? Watch the spy anime from 2 seasons ago then. Yet another example.

And I only watch 3 anime per year. 2 out of them had that feature.

You sure you aren't talking out of your ass, bro?

>>149518280
>And I only watch 3 anime per year

Oh it shows.

>>149518280
>I only watch 3 anime per year
Opinion fucking discarded
And I don't remember anyone in Joker Game speaking anything other than japanese (There was the american in the first 2 episodes and that was it)
Now, tell me
Why would an american organization whose leader looks down on the japanese actually speak japanese amongst themselves in Bungo?
The only part where it makes sense for the guild members to speak japanese is when talking to the japanese cast

>>149518357
So you have no argument after I confirmed you 66% of anime has such feature.

Comedy fucking gold. More anime per year will implement that, mark my words. I work for the anime industry.

>>149518431
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>149518486
Glad you were. Don't do that anymore.

>>149518431
I can also watch only ecchi anime and say 100% of shows are focused on boobs with your retarded logic
>I work for the anime industry
I work for Bones and I can tell you you're full of shit
Look at 91 Days last season. It was set in prohibition era USA and the characters were americans. Why would anyone speak japanese there?

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>>149518546
>I can also watch only ecchi anime and say 100% of shows are focused on boobs with your retarded logic
And you know people do that regularly outside of our board.

I don't watch shit anime sorry m8, 91 days was bad.

>>149518593
Then shut up if you refuse to accept evidence staring you right in the face, shitposter. You're doing the equivalent of a kid plugging his ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Kill yourself

>>149518701
you are doing the same

>>149518177
>You can't use comrade because Luffy isn't a commie

>>149509448
>It can't be helped

>>149518773
What you've written is correct but your meme arrow suggests you disagree with it.

>>149518761
No, I'm not. Because your "evidence" is bullshit percentajes based on the very few anime that you watch
You're exactly the same as the retards claiming every new anime is ecchi fanservice stuff
Your're trying to claim facts based on ignorance

>>149518924
It is fact though. You can't disprove it.

>>149518965
It won't be fact until you have actually seen every show from every season (or at least, those featuring non japanese characters that shouldn't be speaking japanese)

>>149518856
Luffy is totally red, man.

>>149519078
You are still wrong nerd

>>149510326
>nakama
Friend, comrade, ally?

>>149509790
Kill yourself yuropeasant

>>149509790
Aren't those kids in OP from Mars?

>>149521488
How am I wrong? I'm still waiting for you to present solid evidence that characters speaking japanese in anime is because they're actually speaking japanese in the show and not for the convenience of the japanese audience and voice actors (Whenever a seiyuu tries to speak something other than japanese, it's always painful to listen to)
>>149521766
Yes, they are. But purists are retarded

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>>149509448
Like you could tell what is bad sub

There shouldn't really be extra honorifics at all, at least in translation. It's pretty clear that in-universe all these characters are speaking English.

>>149522525
Why would they be speaking english on mars?

it's a damn near absolute equivalent.

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>>149522525
>It's pretty clear that in-universe all these characters are speaking English.

>>149522637
Why wouldn't they?
>>149522678
(You)

>>149509448

"Mr Chad" is a rude/sarcastic title, "Chad-san" wouldn't work there because it implies politeness.

>>149522637
>>149522678
They sure as heck wouldn't be speaking japanese and using honorifics either