ITT: Hacks who got lucky

Anno's not a hack though.

Your favorite director and/or mangaka

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The king of hacks

Oda

I love and hate Anno at the same time
Love him for Evangelion, hate him for Rebuilds, stupid shit milking his franchise like nothing

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Biggest hack in the anime industry

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I love Sora no Woto but all his other shows are middling to bad.

I'm not a huge fan, but Anno is the opposite of lucky. He got into the industry the hard way.

>>149487316

This is the true hack. He's the Dick Wolf of the anime industry.

The founder of BeeTrain is by far the biggest hack in anime. Thank god people finally figured it out, but the damage was done.

>>149487316
>Created 3 arguably more masterpieces
>Lucky hack
I don't think so.

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>>149485898

Shin Godzilla proves that Anno is not a hack

>>149487469

What masterpieces? Every time I tried to watch one of his works, it is full of dozens of empty dialogue episodes and laughable death scenes. Did he make something that didn't follow this pattern?

>>149487731
If you want a series about war where nobody dies perhaps you should stick to A/Z

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The only real, unmeme answer

>>149487356
sora no shitwo is easily the worst, you deluded contrarian hipster.

>>149487316
>his creation gundam becomes one of the biggest franchises ever and iconic as fuck

I think thats a major achievement, yeah his other stuff is ass but I'd be happy if one of my creations will live on long after my death.

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>>149488142
>yeah his other stuff is ass

>>149486012
/thread

>>149487925

>If you want a series about war where nobody dies
I didn't say this at all. Just Tomino can't do death scenes well. He takes the Game of Thrones attitude when it comes to death scenes. Spend 12 episodes having a character do jack shit. Then make him die in some ultra violent death like falling out of a plane or having a grenade stuffed down his throat while being simultaniously pushed off a cliff. In other words, he thinks the death scene itself is impacting. But since the character got jack shit development beforehand, it just comes off as empty. No matter how much the character screams and blows up.

Something like Utawarerumono, with all its bad animation, still has more impact to a death scene. Because you grow to like the characters outside of the war. When you watch a Tomino show, the characters just feel like bland tools of the story. Just like the mechs they pilot.

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and you know it

>>149488127
>worse than Guilty Crown
>worse than Izetta
>worse than Vividred
No.

Also
>liking Sora no Woto
>hipster
Not here.

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Just look at this horse-faced fucker with cheap cosplay wig

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>>149487925
>you should stick to A/Z
>this guy again

>>149488127
>hipster

You're the only person for a long time i've seen hating on it, dude.

>>149486122
>>149486142
Got lucky with Phantom then with Kikokugai, then with Saya no uta then with Madoka, then withFate/Zero then with Psycho-Pass and finally he got lucky with Thunderbolt Fantasy.

Fucking hack. I bet he'll get lucky again with Godzilla.

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Do light novel writers count?
>Achieves second in volume sales after SAO by just copying everything that is popular at the time

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>>149488245

>When you watch a Tomino show, the characters just feel like bland tools of the story. Just like the mechs they pilot.
Damn. Finally someone was able to express how I've always felt about Gundam.

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Boy and the beast was absolutely atrocious piece of money-grabing shit that tried to pander to widest audience as possible resulting in shallower than your-seasonal-noname-harem characters

>>149488687
This,I can't understand how people like Hosoda's movies

>>149488245
Utawarerumono like 99% of VNs do death scenes to get a reaction out of the player, they play up the sentimentality as much as possible to get the player to bawl their eyes out. It's manipulative, but it works since fags like you exist.

Tomino kills characters because he hates doing S2s and enjoys it for the hell of it.

>>149488245
To be fair, that's how war is. He was aiming for an accurate representation of war, and people don't get some grand character arc on the battlefield. They could just die at any moment. It wouldn't work for most series but it works fine for works like Gundam, especially UC.

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Thanks god industry realised that this fuck can't produce anything aside from one mediocre bladerunner ripoff and kicked him out to the dumpster of cinema industry where he now shitting out literally uwe boll-tier live action pieces of crap

>>149489120

Poor bastard wants to work but he has difficulty raising money for his projects.

>>149489120
If anyone's uwe boll tier, that's Uro butcher. Osii is strong willed ojisan desu

>>149489120
>not liking Patlabor

>>149489120
patlabor?
urusei yatsura?
gosenzo-sama banbanzai?
angel's egg?

>>149488589
>thunderflop fantasy
>got lucky
kek

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I wonder what /a/nons agree on who isn't a hack instead of throwing that word on every person they can think of.

>>149489340
It's not a flop if Pili itself said it was a success and they want to do more. They might even do a movie too.

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>>149488772

>Utawarerumono is overly sentimental so it sucks
>Tomino just kills characters for shits and giggles so its good

>>149488801

>To be fair, that's how war is.
People in war just randomly cut their friends heads off or push them out of a plane for no reason? Do you have experience in this?

>He was aiming for an accurate representation of war, and people don't get some grand character arc on the battlefield. They could just die at any moment.
But a realistic interpretation of things doesn't always make good entertainment. But even if we took your premise, the majority of deaths in Tomino's works are not realistic by any means. He's most famous for having ridiculous, over the top deaths. If you like it, then that's fine. But please don't try to claim its realistic.

>>149489120

>Thanks god industry realised that this fuck can't produce anything aside from one mediocre bladerunner ripoff

Pretty sure Urusei Yatsura alone has cemented his career. Let alone all the other stuff he did.

>>149489370
A question for the ages senpai.

>>149489422
>Utawarerumono is overly sentimental so it sucks
>Tomino just kills characters for shits and giggles so its good

Yes, that's my opinion.
You're free to have your own.

>>149488801

>Gundam is just like real war
I'd laugh at this, except its been said so many times that now its just sad.

>>149488772
Did you even play utawarerumono 1st game? You are the truly the dumbest fuck ever

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"I read once in screenwriter 101 how to write a teen drama about distance relationships. It's a shame i haven't read other chapters before i lost the book"
"Oh, Miyazaki-san is old, someone must carry the legacy ^_^. Yeah, i think i've seen one or maybe even two of his films as a kid"

>>149489595
I actually did. You can probably guess what I think of the game.

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I tend to really enjoy his shows but that doesn't change the fact he abuses the same few storyboard gimmicks in all of them

>>149489693
Is he actually learned how to write? I don't really care about Kimi no Na wa but I'll watch it anyway when it's out.

>>149488142
He doesnt have anything else.

>>149489370
No one. Japs can't into innovation. They just steal other, more creative people's work an iterate infinitely.

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>>149485898
Surprised he wasn't posted yet.

>>149485898
Not a hack by definition. Unless you think Rebuild was commissioned I guess.
>>149487316
Tomino is a hack though.
>make me another toy commercial old man
>yes yes Sunrise-sama!

>>149490539
there is no such thing as original art

>>149489120
Oshii is my unequivocal favorite Tibetan Sand Painting director.

His writing on the other hand is a mixed bag.

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There is nothing on the other side of those lifeless eyes other than creative bankruptcy and artistic fraud. We should have listened to Hideaki Tomino when he said that anime was a mistake.

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He went from God of Manga to smelly old man out of a lolicon doujinshi.

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>>149491786
Tryin' to get stabbed ?

>>149488589
most of those are great though

>>149488245
>When you watch a Tomino show, the characters just feel like bland tools of the story.
100% correct.

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This ugly mofo

>>149489393
MP100 is good while OPM is not
whoever he never asked for OPM remake, or popularity so he isn't the one to blame

>>149488601
>Do light novel writers count?
Anon, all light novel authors are by definition hacks. That's why they write light novels instead of anything actually worthwhile. Mangaka and real novel authors are universally respected in Japan, but LN authors are the butt of everyone's jokes. The only people even lower on the totem pole are VN "authors".

>>149485898
>Hacks who got lucky
Yeah, Anno got lucky with his work on:
Daicon III & IV (1981 and 1983)
Nausicaa (1984)
Gunbuster (1988)
Nadia (1990)
Evangelion (1995)
KareKano (1999)
Shin Godzilla (2016)

What a hack!

>>149492477
he's also a fantastic animator, his work on Nausicaa and Honneamise are brilliant

>>149485898
this nigga looks like he's about to drop the hottest mixtape of 2016

>>149492477
Anno has only directed three original animated works throughout his entire career, all of which are a ripoff of something else. Gunbuster ripped off Ace wo nerae. Nadia ripped off Future Boy Conan. Neon Genesis Evangelion ripped off Ideon. And all of those three works contain tons of references to Yamato, Gundam, and Macross.

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>>149492416
Undermining two whole media without so much as a hint of intelligence or god forbid actual arguments. You're ungodly stupid, I really like you.

>>149492477
I also left out Love & Pop and Shiki-Jitsu, which were great live action films by him almost 20 years before Shin Godzilla.

>>149492571
Keep moving those goalposts, gayboy. Anno got to where he is through his skill as a director and an animator. Luck certainly factored into it, but he's not a hack by any means. He's influential for a reason.

>>149490396
>What is Astro Boy
>What is Ideon
He also has a lot of other lesser known stuff thats also mecha too.

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Prove me wrong.

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>>149492681

>Astro Boy
>Tomino

>>149492837
He wrote the anime adaptation.

>>149492182
Sarcasm, motherfucker; do you speak it?

>>149485898
Literally EVERYONE in the anime industry has immense respect for Anno. I'll take their word over some anonymous neckbeard on the internet.

>>149492926
I was pretty sure that it was irony but we can't never really know

>>149489393
that's one ?

>>149492234

OPM remake is good because of Murata's writing that fixes the shit writing of the original.
MP100 is a flop and shit.

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He's also one of those creators who never show their face, who knew.

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>>149492828
He is god, your point is invalid.

>>149493111
He showed his back though.

>>149493050
Are you retarded? ONE writes the remake. Murata can't write for shit.

>>149492952

>Literally EVERYONE in the anime industry has immense respect for Anno.
[Source cannot be confirmed]

I've heard more than a few people say they didn't like Eva. Including Tomino.

>>149492828

You're posting it.

>>149492828
You wouldn't be on this board if it weren't for him.

>>149493111
Came here to post this
>>149493172
that wasn't his back

Also everyone knows that Nasu is a 40yo christmas cake, takeuchi is married with hisui for the rest of his life.

>>149493282
Tomino is probably more angry at those fans who have never watched any other Mecha anime other than Eva and then claiming that Eva "Changed the game" and is revolutionary and is so much deeper than everything else. Eva fags just shit on every other mecha anime, which really does create a lot of anger that is redirected towards anno.

>>149492681
If you're saying Ideon isnt Gundam you're delusional.
And adaptations dont count, it's Tezuka who's great.

>>149493373
Same with casuals who watched Meduka as babby's first animu in the genre and claim it's inherently superior to every entry in the magical girl franchise

>>149493326
Counterpoint: someone else would've started it.

>>149492599
Have you ever read a light novel? Any light novel? They're trash beyond trash, the closest Western equivalent are pulp magazines. The ones that get anime adaptations are mostly the cream of the crop, now just try to imagine how absurdly terrible the average one is. They are aimed at teenagers under the age of fifteen who don't even remember all their kanji yet. Ever wonder how LN authors get away with almost literally copying older LNs? Because unless it's Raildex or Haruhi tier, nobody in their target audience will have read the older work anyway.
Now don't get me wrong, there are light novels authors that manage to at least be entertaining with their writing - Kamachi, Wataru and Nisio are good examples of LN writers who are enjoyable, but they're not GOOD writers. They can write something that is slightly challenging for the average teenager, nothing more.
Again, LNs are considered something for young teens - and not in the way shonen manga are. As an adult in Japan you can get away with buying WSJ and nobody will look at you strangely, but if you're older than 16 and still read LNs, you'll be seen as a major otaku.
(Note: Of course there are a handful of actual talented people in the LN industry at any time. They just don't usually stay there, they're usually fast-tracked to publishing manga or actual novels.)

>>149493481
Yeah just like someone else could've been Hitler.

>>149493373

But it proves that not 'everyone' in the industry worships Anno.

>>149485944

Actually his recent Godzilla movie is a huge mainstream success. Basically the opposite of whatever /a/ says is true effect

>>149487268

Even Japan seems to admit he's a hilariously terrible one trick pony now. Pretty sure Aniplex successfully killed Keys brand value with just a few releasex recently

>>149489370

Probably any actual shitty one note creator.

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>>149493768

>Basically the opposite of whatever /a/ says is true effect
Has been since at least 2007.

Tatsuo Yoshida was legend creator.
His early death damaged anime industry.

>>149493541
A form of pulp literature, not very challenging and therefore easily accessible, that much is true. Generalizing is never a good idea, even when faced with medium in which actually decent pieces are the lowest common denominator. I take more issue with the visual novel part...

>>149493768
Because it's just Gojira 1954 in the year 2016. Kinda of a hack move on his part.

>>149494080
Why? Visual novels are a niche market within a niche market. And you cannot seriously pretend there is any actual talent to be found there. Again, some people who can entertain,and write well enough to evoke some feelings, but nothing that can be considered of any value as actual literate.

the best part of these threads is the group of people who believe every post is 100% sincere and unironic

>>149494080

You're fucking clueless and have no idea what you're talking about.
VNs are mostly shit, but the ones that are good are ridiculously good. mindbogglingly so. Take Muramasa for example, it's entertaining, informative, challenging to read, well worth the ridiculous price and filled to the brim with interesting ideas.

Calling LNs pulp literature is a huge insult to pulp literature. LNs is disposable entertainment, the fast food of "literature". Because of how cheap it is to make them, the entry barrier for "writers" is insanely low, it's a hair above fanfictin and with the popularity of web novels it got even lower. Trash doesn't even come close to describing it.

>>149494659
>VNs are mostly shit, but the ones that are good are ridiculously good

Hence my point about generalization being retarded. You're willing to dismiss a whole media as trashy based on it's downfalls, overlooking its greatest accomplishments. The same logic could be applied to every art medium under the sun. Most movies are trash, the reason it's not as obvious is because there are a bajilion of them. You don't see people running around bitching about the decay of the film medium in it's entirety.

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If you think I'm wrong, you're in deep denial.

>>149495037

Anon, why are even trying to argue with dumb retards? They're the same faggots who say Anime is degrading because of X and Y.

>>149492571
Inspirations are not fucking ripoffs

>>149495957

Nadia is a little more than just inspiration.

>>149491831
shut up jojofag

>>149495986
Castle in the Sky was also inspired by Future Boy Conan, it's just influences senpai
Evangelion was also inspired by Ideon if I recall correctly

>>149496104
That's exactly what I said, you Dummkopf. Didn't you read my shitty rant?

>>149489120
>not liking Red Spectacles
consider suicide

>>149492416
>hi, im le post ironical neo-boy who thinks girlish number is a legitimal argument to discredit light novels, heh im so smart XD

>>149487316
I really don't understand what the fuck people see in his shows

>>149498740

Same thing people see in Game of Thrones. People tell them its deep and they pretend to see it.

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>>149494100
>Because it's just Gojira 1954 in the year 2016. Kinda of a hack move on his part.
>Gojira 1954 in the year 2016.
and what of 2014?

>no one's posted Watanabe yet
>no one's posted Yuasa
>no Ikuhara
>no Nagahama
>no Nakamura or Kon
>not even Mizushima

>>149500304
>>149489370

And Kon was posted, just not with his name.

>>149497247
at least you acknowledge it's shitty

>>149488245
>When you watch a Tomino show, the characters just feel like bland tools of the story
you mean when you watch Zeta

>>149493111
Takeuchi is a bigger hack. Nasu at least has imagination.

What is a hack, /a/?
Because all I keep seeing are the actual good to decent and worthwhile directors/writers/animators/artists who have created some good shit posted in these threads.

>>149500966

I've watched Gundam 0079, Wing, Turn A and Seed. It was like that for each show.

>>149501193
This thread was obviously made for the purpose of shittily baiting fans of [insert well-known director here] by calling them a hack without explanation. That's why you only hear the names of popular or generally well-liked directors. No one's going to go and say "Azuma Tani is a fucking hack" because no one gives a shit about him and therefore no one will respond.

This same reasoning seems to drive a good quarter of threads around here.

>>149494100
>1954
Nuclear Dread Allegory
>2016
Political Satire with a side of outright political soapboxing

They're not really comparable.

>>149485898
How is he a hack?

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>>149501401
>Political Satire with a side of outright political soapboxing
or its an Allegory for a Nuclear Meltdown.
i.e Fukushima

>>149494659
Hahahaha you're some faggot who spent 2 years in DJT and can struggle through VNs with a text hooker now and think your opinion is worth something

>>149502224
The first third of the film is more a general send up of bureaucratic latency. You can certainly say it applies to Fukushima, but to nail it down to specifically reference it is a bit of a stretch.

The only bit of the film I feel actually directly (but delicately) references Fukushima is the doctor and his dead wife.

>>149485898
you know it was Nadia and Gunbuster that gave him name recognition

and as for Eva it wasn't much luck so much as spite

>>149503223
Spite for what?

>>149503249
whiny otaku neckbeards like himself

>>149486122
>>149486142
Came here to post this edgy one-trick pony gorilla

>>149503174
What about Operation Yashiori.

They send in teams to basically pump coolant to freeze Godzilla.

>>149493373
Eva did "change the game" just not with mecha specifically. If you really want a game changer for mecha then its Gundam Seed, and Seed was a piece of shit that was just the original plus schlocky j-drama nonsense.

>>149493373
Eva changed the way the entire industry worked

>>149488245
>Then make him die in some ultra violent death like falling out of a plane or having a grenade stuffed down his throat while being simultaniously pushed off a cliff.
That's like the complete opposite of the way Tomino handles death scenes. It's done so nonchalantly that it's jarring. Most Gundam death scenes are a named character being killed in an explosion in the exact same way a nameless character would. There are scenes of people crying or wailing afterwards, but that doesn't fit your description. Your description sounds more like something straight out of Gundam Wing, which wasn't by Tomino.

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>Anno hideaki
>Lucky
>Hack
Neither this is some good quality bait or OP is clinically retarded.

>>149503796
He was a talent animator, but no way in hell i would call him a good director

>>149503967
Why not?

>>149503967
But he is. He's very good with visuals, even in live action. Shin Godzilla proves this.

>>149493373
It's understandable he didn't like it. He probably sees it, at least in part, as a straw man of real robot rather than some deconstruction.

>>149504550
Eva isn't a deconstruction of anything.

>>149504598
I'll deconstruct your fucking life, faggot

>>149487299
My favourite hack

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Whoever that made this shit

>>149487299
>Makes a Trigun ripoff and gets poor sales
>Makes Bleach right after which is pretty much a Yu Yu Hakasho ripoff and goes viral

>>149488245
Please watch Tomino shows before you comment on Tomino shows, thank you.

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You know it's true. He claims he wants to save anime, but can't even save himself.

>>149505030
Coloring is pretty dope (it's bold and colorful for a supposedly grimdark setting), its something yo average teenager can relate on, and is a perfect foil for naruto (not to mention the first 3 OP songs).

What is a hack exactly?

>>149492650
>He's influential for a reason.

In what fucking way?

>>149504598
In a pedantic literary sense it isn't.

In the bastardized term thrown around referring to pop culture it is.

>>149505147
>He claims he wants to save anime
He never said this.