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Is Papika's backstory super sad? Is Yayaka being manipulated. and will she and the twins need to be rescued by Papika and Cocona? Is Dr. Salt good or bad? Will Papika and Cocona kiss? Is yuri good or bad? These are the questions.
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>>149369147
Also: what is the significance of Cocona's recurring dream?
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On a scale of 1 to 3rd impact, how Gendo is Dr. Salt?
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STOP. You fags just go too fast. I need sleep.
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>>149369147
Yes, No she's the puppet master, No, He's the Demiurge, Yes but it's not gay in context, Good.
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>>149369147
>Is Yayaka being manipulated
Maybe she knows what's the deal, but is complying anyway. So far. She might have doubts, or doubts might arise as a result of friction with the FlipFlap faction.

The twins don't seem like they'll do much? I guess they could get an ep, since they're in the OP and all.

The most interesting thing at this point is what the fuck is the robot loli and when the fuck will she show up. What's she gonna be like personality-wise.
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But what's the deal with the painting?
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>>149369147
Yayaka is being used sexually and is confused about her gender. Dr. Salt is probably a rapist.
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Dr. Salt is your FRIEND
He fights for PURE ILLUSION
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>>149369186
I think the dream foreshadows what's going to happen next.
First dream was just the girl/granny optical illusion, and was followed by 3 episodes of GIRL MEETS GIRL and awkward tension with grandma

Second dream was about ominously approaching a towering phallic object and the mysterious depths
The next episode was about getting inside and ascending a clocktower.
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High grade lolibutt.
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You little shits, Papika can read, it's just PI magic. You don't see if the others are reading serious books either way. How else would you explain her not being expelled from school?
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Does this robot symbolize the audience?
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>>149369199
I want him to take off his shirt
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>>149369276
That reflection on his glasses gives him a pair of really fucking evil eyes.
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>>149369199
He's going to be a good guy in the end who actually fights the KKK who are obviously the bad guys
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>>149369287
The robot symbolizes your misspent youth
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>>149369276
His fragment is fucking garbage compared to the ones the girls have. Reminds me of Amarao's guitar but I know this show won't be nearly as tight as FLCL
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>>149369186
also I think the artist character is really interesting as some kind of foil to Papika and Cocona, as being a person who actually creates worlds and passively observes them vs. the duo who find themselves flung into these fantasy worlds which make little distinction between reality and fantasy. I wonder what the real point of the comparison is though, IE. what the show's constant playing with the concept of umwelt is driving at.
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>>149369199
Where are his hands
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>>149369280
I hate those two cunts now. You can't just leave your teammate like that
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>>149369199
>>149369276
How tragic will his backstory be?
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>>149369261
Well the safe bet would be that she's TEH REI.

But we already have twin Reis, so probably not.
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I want to _____ Yayaka!
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Reminder: http://pastebin.com/jtwDKRzP
>>149369300
You mean googly eyes.
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>>149369332
Friendly reminder that lolibutt unloaded her full auto armgun on the bubble that was holding her comrade
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>>149369322
Cocona and Papika are his hands
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Baby with Yayaka!
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>>149369332
They're not programmed to feel camaraderie.
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>>149369354
cunt kick
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>>149369363
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTT
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>>149369322
Gone, he likes to give himself sleeve dickings (flip his flop)
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what would sex between Cocona and Papika be like?
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What is the point of this character?
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>>149369376
Well, the sister won't need programming to feel my dick if you know what I mean.
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>>149369402
cute

>>149369423
mahou shoujo fangirl
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>>149369423
fill up time
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>>149369356
The only good part about this is the bit about episode 2 and menstruation, and that doesn't even fit in with the rest of your bullshit. You took the sexual awakening idea way too far
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>>149369423
F L I P F L A P
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I would like to see a summary of all the references in this show.
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>>149369354
Steal Yayaka's hairtie.
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>>149369354
pull on those butt-antennae
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>>149369280
BRRRRRAAAAAPPPPP PSSHHH BZZT
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Anyone have a .webm of Papika or Cocona's transformation from this episode?
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>>149369478
>Yayaka has butt-antennae
>Papika has butt-wings
What does it mean
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>>149369276
Insert some catchy mellow 80s tunes and it will be A E S T H E T I C
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>>149369454
P I N G
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>>149369423
Yuri industry criticism hypothesis: Female fangirls.

Sexual awakening hypothesis. Cocona as a successful and confident member of society who has come in terms with her sexuality.

Eva of madoka hypothesis: Misato.
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Hey look it's the real Alice!
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>>149369354
play guitar hero with
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>>149369557
There are a few shows/games that do this wire thing, where after tying up the enemy and strumming the wire, the target dies.

How does that actually work?
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Does this mean that Pure Illusion isn't a single place that changes but is actually individual separate worlds?

Do the Illusions just continue on once nobody's inside?
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>>149369147
what are the amorphous anyway
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>>149369629
>Do the Illusions just continue on once nobody's inside?
If a tree falls in a forest and there's nobody around, does it make a sound?
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maybe pure illusion is where sublimated desires go to find actualization...?
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>>149369147
>Is Yayaka being manipulated
>implying it's not coconut that's being manipulated
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Place your bets.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11569853
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>>149369672
I thought that was what the internet was for
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>>149369629
Imagine that, an entire school of featureless girls doing embroidery, eating snacks and being lesbians. Forever.
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>>149369450
>he thinks it's all one coherent idea
It's whatever I could think of or saw in a thread, you fucking idiot.
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>>149369642
depends on whether you mean sound qua perception or sound qua vibration
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>>149369691
/a/
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>>149369276
Here you go https://youtu.be/U81VoqHxIp4
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>>149369642
Would a tree even fall if nobody were around?
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>>149369691
I want to enroll there.
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>>149369506
This show takes place in a world of anthropomorphized insects.
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>>149369629
Reminds me of Kingdom Hearts
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>>149369519
> A E S T H E T I C
>>/tg/, though I do admire the trumpkino as well, 80s were like a completely different universe, one I wish I could have been born in
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>>149369732
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>>149369684
I think bijutsubu senpai is a pretty symbolic character that may have no role in the actual plot. I think that painting she talked to cocona by in the hallway is really important though.
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>>149369732
But you're not a girl
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>>149369783
But what does it all mean?
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>>149369332
No softies allowed, dork.
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>>149369793
I could be if I tried really hard. I want to embroider and drink tea and lie in bed in the rain all day for eternity.
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>>149369793
That's because I'm a rippana lady
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>>149369629
Do dreams just continue on when you wake up?
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>>149369322
He has long sleeves because he thinks it's cute when girls are comfy like that and he wants to be like that too.
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>>149369519
Quoted wrong person
>>149369724
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>>149369684
Senpai is like this woman.
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>>149369906
Please don't post okada here, you might jinx it.
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>>149369851
No. You're a fat NEET.. Or maybe wit ha job in STEM. The last time you spoke to someone outside of work or the internet was two years ago.
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>>149369838
AMAI NA
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>>149369629
Fragments are clear physical entities that exist independently. If a fragment can sustain an entire world like in ep5, then it follows that the worlds also exist independently. There has to be a place where the fragments are placed, after all. They can't just ether themselves into reality just like that.
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This is important.
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>>149369823
Cocona is the painting, and she wants to fill the painting with beautiful things because she is empty.
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>>149369823
I have no idea. Their conversation explicitly links paintings to Cocona's experiences in Pure Illusion, as well as the duality of fear+freedom/creativity that both the painting and Cocona's experiences evoke. The senpai kind of just stands outside of everything at the moment, so I'm not sure what the show is really trying to say with that analogy.
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>>149369968
>red haired
>insane
>german
Flip Flappers is the evangelion of the madoka generation
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Just let it happen.
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>>149369988
The senpai will be the real world-based demonstration of Cocona's development. When the dust settles and Papika disappears, she'll decide to take up painting as something she really likes/wants to learn, fulfilling her arc from episode 1 onwards. Classic Japanese bittersweet ending.
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>>149369995
>Papika is actually a genius, but just doesn't know good Japanese.
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>>149369988
Maybe that a repressed young girl will find herself in imagination and explore that through the outlet of painting, and having an older mentor will help serve as the bridge which allows her to connect her experiences to this new hobby.

Being outside of the whole Flip Flap thing also lets sempai help ground Cocona in the real world instead of just being purely a fantasy adventure.

It's sort of like how shows with superpowers always need at least 1 character with no abilities who isn't directly involved in anything. It grounds the estranged in the terms of the normal so that the former has actual meaning and purpose rather than simply becoming the new norm.
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>>149370012
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Something is going on, next episode will be the 6th so it might be revealed or atleast closer to what's truly happening.

Is everyone robots?
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>>149370030
ah that would be extremely sad. Papika deserves better though I guess I'm not sure how the show could possibly end well for her, considering she seems a bit messed up developmentally as far as socialization goes.

That would tie the analogy up nicely though, as Cocona gains the wherewithal to flourish and create in the real world. It's also possible the show is going for something more metaphysical and the senpai will have an actual plot function I guess.
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>>149370030
Art school is a scam, you fool. You would be better off by marrying your best friend and become a housewife.
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>>149370012
Reminder that puckering implies consent
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>>149369968
That's just google translate, flappung isn't german.
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I want to spread her flaps
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>>149369147
based on what we see in the OP I think we may find out that Papika has a lot more going on underneath than what we see on the surface. In fact, the whole dynamic between Cocona and Papika is very different in the OP versus what we've seen from them so far.
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>>149369147
yes, yes, yes, bad, yes, good
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>>149370130
What are they teaching at that school when that's you're default reaction to getting pushed down and moved in on?
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>>149369691
>>149369708
>Imagine that, an entire board full of featureless anons shitposting, watching anime and being faggots. Forever.

Furip Furappingu is deep even on the meta level.
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>>149370114
Kill yourself, !Akem-

anyway no, painting will win
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>>149370151
>watching anime
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>>149370146
>yes
Thank god.
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>>149370076
Yeah this makes a lot of sense. That painting was really spooky though! Which I guess it needed to be for the analogy to really hit home.
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>>149370030
>post credits scene is Cocona revealing her painting
>it's a portrait of Papika
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>>149369354
molest
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>>149370190
A good concept, but straight like that would be kinda cliched, no?

We need something more symbolic to be in that painting. It's too bad the show hasn't really established a character defining object for Papika the way some of these usually do; the surfboard just doesn't cut it here.
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>>149370245
What if it's a nude drawing of Papika? That's symbolic of something I bet.
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>>149370190
my heart wouldn't take it
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>>149370114
Yayakaposting is extremely good.

Also /r/ drawing of Cocona and Yayaka's marriage ceremony, I need it for reasons.
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>>149370109
Maybe you need a human to enter Pure Illusion, which is why Papika needs Cocona/the dead girl from the first episode to enter and the KKK needs Yayaka.
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>>149370294
>they rub foreheads instead of kissing
Fund it
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>>149370190
Please no.
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>>149370245
I don't think so. Portraits in anime have historically hit pretty hard in my experience anyway.
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>>149369855
Who knows, eh?
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>>149370305
But Cocona also needs Papika to enter PI.
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>>149370294

Is this one of the "two brides" things, or are we getting Yayaka in a tuxedo?
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>Cocona and Papika are actually the same person
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Do tamaofags like Yayaka? she seems more, pardon the word, alpha. I was expecting a loser.
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>>149370401
Well, they are the Direct Drive. What the fuck that even means is our current enigma.
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>>149370335
Who says?
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>>149369276
>>149369519
Testing

https://a.pomf.cat/bduftp.mp4
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>>149370405
Yayaka is a loser.
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>>149370413
It's actually only be established that Papika is half of the Direct Drive, the other half could be anything and not necessarily Cocona.
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>>149370413
Why do anime have plot points like this? It never turns out to be anything interesting.

Just get back to the exploring dreamworlds and yuri innuendo
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incredible episode m8s
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>>149369781
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Gokigenyou
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1478226456070.webm
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PAPIKA

Age: ---
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>>149370456
I know. But at this point, what else is there? I'd rather they keep it simple.
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>>149370443
this

Yayaka is the dorkist character in the show, I'm not sure why that label is attached to Papika.

>Yayaka
Stays in the sick room all day
No friends except Cocona
Doesn't try at school
Terrible diet; eats cake every day

>Papika
Talented
Extremely popular
Befriends Cocona effortlessly
Cooks full meals from natural ingredients.
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>>149370550
>Befriends Cocona effortlessly
Well she almost died, and almost got Cocona killed the next day. I wouldn't call that effortless
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>>149370527
is papika a human y/n
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>>149370579
She's the same kind of thing as Cocona, I can tell you that much.
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>>149370579
She's Salt's biological daughter.
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>>149370579
Why would electrical impedance matter if she was human?
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>>149370491
this is really funny out of context like this
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>>149370527
COCONA

Age: 14(? at least there's a number)
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Is there a download for the ED anywhere? It's become one of my favourites.
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>>149370604
>>149370595
>>149370527
this to me implies that papika is inhuman and cocona is human
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>>149370491
Holy shit I just realized something.

Cocona's going to return home and find out her grandmother is dead. That was HER dream dissolving!
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>>149370604
Papika: 00-746
Cocona: TS-345
Bu: TT-392
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>>149370610
Comes out in like a week senpai.
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>>149370579
Maybe Papika is a Pure Illusion.

>>149370610
November 9th.
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>>149370670
TS probably stands for Test Subject
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>>149370430
My browser is saying your file is corrupt
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>>149370667
absolutely delete this
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>>149370597
>Left Leg ____
>Leg down
>generalized to left....
>left leg ____ age
>behavioral ____
lookint to the left, ha....
>moving
>moving
>left temporal artr....

What does it mean
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>>149370732
Well Cocona's fragment is stuck in her left leg.
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>>149370604
Measuring temperature in Fahrenheit? salt is AMERICAN. Or this is some alternate history where Great Britain never adopted the metric system.

Also that's a litlte low for a body temperature.
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>>149370769
They need to be cool before they get hot and bothered in PI
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Does Yayaka have a fragment?
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>>149370688
So 345 girls died before Cocona came along?
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>>149370769
on the other screen and near their photos the height is in cm and the weight is in kg, but near the temperature it's in inches and pounds.
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>>149370689
Works in Chromium. Firefox has some issues with improperly tagged files.
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>Cockona
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>>149370702
Bah, it's OK. She was a member of the KKK anyway, a beard to conceal Cocona's true origins.
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>>149370672
>>149370680
oh, thanks
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>>149370814
Well, at least one did.
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>>149369506
>Cocona has shoulder wings
It means they are competing to be Cocona's other half.
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>>149370769
>>149370830
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>149370830
Oh. So someone is american. Or malaysian or something.
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>>149370892
Flip Flap is a department of the CIA whose mission to steal magical girl technology from the Japanese KKK.

Hell if Madoka could do that kind of an asspull in episode 7 so could Flip Flaps
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>>149370550
I actually like the subtleties of Yayaka so far.
Notice that she's been trying to avoid conflict with Cocona from the start. She even went so far as to invite them to her side so they wouldn't have to fight.
Plus she teases Cocona for being a softie, yet she's the one with a creambox addiction and she pets neighborhood cats in her free time.
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>>149370527
>>149370604
Am I reading this correctly or does this chart say they are 74 inches (6 feet) tall and weigh 195lbs?
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>>149370935
Meant to quote >>149370891
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>>149370550
Stop replying to yourself, !Papikana.I wonder who you paid to write this. Probably one your girlfriends. "Another bust" as you call them. Whore.
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>>149370951
Maybe that's how tall they are in henshin form?
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qrE3TInqs

Why were their greetings spelled with Qs instead of Gs?
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I want to gently penetrate Papika's butthole with my tongue.
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>>149370604
>Device : # over Papika's information but not Cocona's
>Papika's whole body glows when transforming
>Cocona only glows on her thigh where the shard is
Is Papika a subject that was creating from the shards?
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>>149371008
Broken speech is my guess.
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>>149371008
because crunchyroll can't into zalgo

maybe commie will pick up this show just for you
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>>149371008
CR couldn't find a way to zalgotext in subs so they had to find another way.
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>>149370979
You had me going there for a second.
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>>149371024
Calm down Cocona
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>>149370951
>195 lbs
It's more likely a 0 with a slash through it than a 9.
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>>149370814
Papika has paired up with 345 girls before Cocona. She has told them all the same story and made each of them feel like they were super special friends. Each of them was betrayed by Papika and fed to the PI gods, and all this time she's been completely oblivious to how fucked up this is.
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>>149371059
Okay so now they are 6'2 and weigh 105lbs. Talk about skeltor.
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>>149371049
I can't calm down when I think of how easy it would be to exploit Papika's cheerful innocence.
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>>149370474
Any talented anon stitches this sene?
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>>149371068
Why do you people want to make Papika a villain so badly
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>>149371037
>>149371040
Zalgo texting is too ançient, none of the newe̢r viewers would ev͜e͜n know what the hell i̛t̛ is.͞
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>>149371091
Those might be cm
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>>149371008
Its hinting at the Apex Twin remake of the OST
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>>149370680
>Maybe Papika is a Pure Illusion.
Papika is cocona's pure illusion double, calling it.
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>>149371096
It wasn't me
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>>149371117
in that scenario she's more of an innocent tool than a villain.
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>>149371091
They're 5 ft, 99 lbs if we're to go by the other image.
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>>149371156
Noice
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>>149371157
Papika is a sex-tool.
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>>149371156
I'm getting some serious Pandora Hearts vibes from this, god damn.
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>>149371156
>Papika is running up stairs while wearing thongs
How does she do it?
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>>149370951
Makes you wonder how tall the Flip Flap HQ people are.
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I don't get it, why do people say this episode was about lesbians? Wasn't it just about conformism?
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>>149371199
is this show going to be localized as Thing Thongers by Madman
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>>149371156
Is there a version with that based pendulum?
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>>149371229
Do you know what lilies symbolize?
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>>149371229
Lilies, Class S, Gokigenyou
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>>149371229
literal yuri motif everywhere through the whole episode + cocona's "hot and bothered" line + papika blood-suckling

also possibly the fact that the schoolgirls were trying to "hide" the phallic tower from Papika and Cocona, though I don't know how much of that line I want to commit to.

The bloody rain as menstruation as well I guess.
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>>149371279
>The bloody rain as menstruation as well I guess.

That shit is dumb, the rain wasn't even bloody.
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>The bloody rain as menstruation as well I guess.

What does menstruation have to do with homosexuality?
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>>149371298
Didn't you turn gay when you first saw period blood?
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>>149371199
She has toes.
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>>149371298
It's more sexuality in general than homosexuality. The fact that they both conk out when heading into the real world and get pulled back into the looping "nest" can be read as an attempt at some kind of arrested pre-pubescent development I guess.

>>149371291
Well it wasn't the rain that was bloody, just the scene where they step outside and find themselves covered in blood and then pass out. I'm not sure I buy it either though so w/e.
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>>149371345
by "real world" I just meant outside the school in this scenario. If you read the tower as a phallic symbol I think it corroborates the menstrual symbolism because the basic idea is that the school is this manufactured fantasy-land detached from the realities of sexuality, or something. Although I'm finding it hard to find a non-homophobic reading which includes the tower as a phallic symbol, cause its used as this "secret reality" that the schoolgirls deceive the protags about.
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Shame this show is selling so terribly, I really would have liked to see OVAs of the PI's they skipped.
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>>149371387
like really this whole scenario of lesbianism=terrifying detachment from reality can be read really homophobically though I don't think that's how it's meant, given the rest of the show. I don't really get it.
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>>149371387
If you gotta reach like it's the reach olympics, just say that the blood is them losing their virginity. Problem solved.
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>>149371387
Maybe something about bleeding during first intercourse?
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>>149371421
Or fear of it maybe
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>>149371387
>>149371414

A lot of the more opinionated LGBT people actually have a big problem with the "class s yuri fantasyland" stuff this episode was referencing directly. It's definitely not homophobic to say that that stuff is weaksauce.
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>>149371465
OK what how is this homophobic/
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>>149371402
>OVAs
>of modern anime
>happening at any point
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>>149371465
Oh OK, that makes sense. I don't really know about the Class S thing so that's good to know.
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>>149371465
That's what makes it enjoyable though, realistic homosexuality is degenerate.
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>>149371402
Yea kinda sad they skipped it, since we know the show is bombing cause nips have shit taste, meaning we won't get anymore.
This show kinda has american mcgee's alice vibes, and it's great but unless it's shit otaku pandering shit it's not gonna sell.
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>>149371402
If they had thought that it was particularly compelling, they would have put it in the show. It's not any more of a loss than all the other ideas they could come up with but didn't bother to make one still for to show that some things have happened between episodes.
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>>149371485
Go look at the bottom of Anichart.
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>>149371465
what exactly is the criticism there? That it fetishizes lesbianism? Or construes lesbianism as a reactive fear of men that needs to be overcome?

cause if it's the latter I feel like the episode basically ended up saying exactly that which is really weird
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>>149371414
>lesbianism=terrifying detachment from reality
I don't think it's trying to say that all lesbianism is wrong but rather the way it's depicted in anime (the heavily sexualized yuri or the manufactured puritanical yuri) are ridiculous.
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>>149371541
Jesus fuck they didn't skip anything, that shit was only there to be skipped to begin with.

It's idiots like you that are the reason nobody can write a quick moving show anymore because some fag will complain they weren't shown every little detail for half an episode. Or better yet not hint at anything ever happening offscreen, someone's bound to get mad they didn't get to see it.
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>>149371591
or maybe it didn't, I mean just because Papika and Cocona were in this world where the schoolgirls hide from the "tower" doesn't entail that that's what their relationship consists in, I guess. I'm getting kind of confused.
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>>149371611
Don't fall for this retards bait dude
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>>149371591
Class S is girls playing pretend lesbians to prepare for future relationships but it's okay because they'll marry and have children after they leave school anyway.

I hope I don't have to explain further why they don't like that.
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>>149371556
I suppose you're right. Adding those extra episodes would probably drag on and feel too MOTWish.
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I need something to survive until ep 6. What gay stories would you recommend? already watched Pandora in the crimson dork.
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>>149371678
Yeah, eat the riceball whole you little slut.
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>>149371606
right, OK, so it's basically just hyperbolic satire of the underlying logic of the Class S stuff. And Papika and Cocona just break out of it. My problem is that if you read the tower as a phallic symbol, the key to their liberation seems to be accepting the benevolence of hetero or male sexuality, which seems kind of weird.

Unless you just read the pure illusion world as this purely satirical construct I guess, in which the tower is a phallic symbol but really it's built on and represents nothing real.
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>>149371402
Jack and the Beanstalk?
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>>149371678
Watch Marimite to get context for this episode.
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>>149371387
>time = menstruation
There's no bottom to this shit.
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>>149371678
ICE
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>>149371727
Marimite if you think about it, its depressing as fuck. I mean a school that groom brides for business executives and the Japanese elites, sounds more like a Taken movie.
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>>149369731
Would a tree even be if noone were around?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11570033
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>>149371649
Doesn't the episode frame leaving the school and its fake lesbianism as the basic goal though? My confusion lies in whether the show is saying "fake school-age lesbian relationships are bad and the whole fantasy of Class S logic is nonsense" or "fake school age lesbian relationships are bad so you should hurry up and grow into a real heterosexual"
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>>149371803
What the fuck, is that actually the plot of marimite?
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>>149371803
Marimite at least is aware of this, because it actually has gay characters and handles them quite well.
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>>149371846
Uexkull seems unlikely, given that we've already seen him in Pure Illusion. He was struggling as much as they were and far too much to be pulling the wool over their eyes.

Maybe it's grandma.
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>>149371541
>>149371611
To be honest, they should have skipped episode 4 too.
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>>149371875
Pretty much Class S in general, girls get sent to school where they have "pretend" relationships while at the same time not having to risk being "soiled" for their future husbands.
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>>149371611
>Jesus fuck they didn't skip anything
>that shit was only there to be skipped to begin with.
Hence they skipped it. Just because they planned to have it skipped, doesn't mean people don't want to watch what happened in it.
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>>149371866
I feel more like I lack the cultural literacy to understand this episode the more I talk about it. It was fun to watch though!
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>>149371866
I don't think it's saying either of those things, it's just saying that Class S, as nice as it is, is in the end nothing but a circular drama nexus that doesn't really go anywhere.
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>>149371866
WIth the writer it's definitely the first one.

>people trying to rationalize plot elements written by a yuri author as heterosexual
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>>149371939
Is it strange if this premise has sold me more on Marimite than anything else I've heard about it? I'm probably gonna check it out now.
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>>149371866
Sei is the one true lesbo but she gets cucked by Maria-sama. QB should have targeted lesbians cause their lives are full of drama.
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>>149371959
In the end they got an amorphous in the tower though! I guess you don't need to read that as symbolic; cause if you do it seems to be saying one of those two things.

I think not reading it as symbolic is definitely the way to go though, cause the show was pretty neutral with how it balanced the humor/horror in the Class S scenario, so I think your reading makes more sense.
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>>149372002
I thought he did...
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>>149371970
Marimite is a really good show and that's the main reason to watch it. It's just that people who think it has anything to do with actual queer issues (outside of its one dedicated plot arc) or reality in general are off their rocker.

That said, a lot of lesbians also like it, because it's still a cheesy fantasy romantic thing with girls and you don't have to REEEEE at everything because some aspect of it is problematic.
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>>149371387
The tower was also part of the trap though. It tried to crush them and had those grasping hands at the bottom. Also worth noting that Papika and Cocona obliterated it together.

In fact, basically every reference to heterosexuality in the show has been associated with a theme or imagery of entrapment.

In Ep2 the big hard object she bites turns out to be part of a trap. Likewise Cocona and the bunny are caged as soon as he embraces her, and she's then saved from that cage by the lesbian that set off the turmoil that engulfed her in the first place.

The phallic tree from Ep4 literally has a prison at its base, which is focused on in the next frame so that it dominates the screen.

The show is basically telling the audience and Cocona that if she chooses the heterosexual route, as Japanese society demands, then she will feel imprisoned and miserable.
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Why is this bombing in Japan?

I thought nips liked TTGL and KlK.
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If the tower is a phallic symbol, why did it break at the end?

Because they beat the dick.
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The whole scenario was creppy but also oddly comfy.
>being forever with your autistic lesbo in a warm place full of friends, tea and cookies
Fucking Heaven.
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>>149372099
Doujins btfo.
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>>149372099
It symbolized a dick that was never allowed to cum. It reset every 12 hours. When Cockona broke it the clock was finally able to release itself.
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>>149372086
ah, I think part of my problem was that I wasn't considering the tower and the school as part of the same basic scenario. They're both these kinds of vacuous, suffocating labyrinths. That makes sense.
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>>149372109
>The whole scenario was creppy but also oddly comfy.

yeah this exactly. The scene where they talk about liking the rain was really rich tonally.
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>>149372098
It's because the world has enough magical girl shows
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>>149371709
There was nothing benevolent about that tower. It was an obstacle to be overcome.
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>>149372225
yeah I was just thinking about the fact that they got the shard there. Of course they got it from shattering the tower though!
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>>149372225
If you want a reading that includes the penistower, I would put it as "the tower is the thing always forcing everything back to the start", i.e. the male audience that wants to see girls holding hands but no actual lesbians.
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>>149372255
and the fact that the schoolgirls were hiding it from them, I guess.
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>>149372282
haha that's pretty clever and makes sense I think.
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>>149372282
>clock resets at twelve
>most shows are 12 episodes
>thus we get to the end of a show but no actual yuri ending is allowed
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That academic paper about yuri that gets posted once in a while here was written by one of you, wasn't it?
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>>149372160
Oh hey I hadn't noticed that she briefly summons the scissorblade before transforming it into a hammer.
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>>149372282
man this actually makes the whole thing seem a lot more coherent. A+
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>>149372282
Good call.
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>>149372357
Kiss confirmed for ep 13?
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>>149372359
It was written by someone on /u/, so probably yes
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>>149372429
Well if we take what we saw in the episode, the payoff (kiss) should be at the 12th hour. So kissu is ep 12 and then 13 is an epilogue with them living happily ever after or a bittersweet tearful goodbye ;_;
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>>149372357
>Flip Flappers is 13 episodes as shown by the finnished storyboards on their twitter.
>true /u/ ending

FUCK
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>>149372086
>>149372172
So basically the show in general is showing how forced heterosexuality would be oppressive for Cocona, but this episode in specific shows how this idealized fantasy version of lesbianism that is not only detached from reality but also hostile to a return to it is equally imprisoning.
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>>149372282
Replace "audience" with "creators" and it makes even more sense.
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Have they adressed denial yet?
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>>149371611
>It's idiots like you that are the reason nobody can write a quick moving show anymore because some fag will complain they weren't shown every little detail for half an episode. Or better yet not hint at anything ever happening offscreen, someone's bound to get mad they didn't get to see it.
No one is talking about hand holding exposition you retard, they just want to watch more of the adventures. Get some reading comprehension you fucking nigger.
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>>149372474
I don't doubt there will be more conflict between Cocona and Papika and Cocona specifically will have doubts about what she's doing/how she feels.
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Is Flip Flapping an allusion about masturbating?
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>>149369423
>What is the point of this character?

Yuniko Ayano's self-insert
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>>149372506
What anon is trying to say in his anti-social way is that showing those worlds and events would have just been PI-of-the-week filler and thus was rightfully cut from this single-cour show in favour of more story-heavy developments.

Also, two more episodes of the heroines losing would have been hard to show without turning off the audience.

Also, you're an asshole.
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cutest homophobic transgender
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>>149372571
It's one of those shows where you can make a pretty compelling case for things like that, but will never actually outright confirm their accuracy/legitimacy.
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>>149372602
But that would mean Yuniko is best girl in real life as well.
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>>149372282
the thing I really like about this reading is that it reveals the Class S fantasy as this fundamentally patriarchal construct that is surreptitious anathema to actual lesbian relationships. The whole thing is a new de-humanizing way for men to commodify a relationship that has nothing to do with them. damn.
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>>149372646
Well she did write Flip Flappers, how could she not be the best?
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>>149372571
Only if that magic wand was made by Hitachi.
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>>149372357
It resets at 11, the bell ringing for the 12th time allowed them to continue.
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>>149372635
>>149370130
>>149370012
Yayaka is so cute!
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This scene kept getting gayer every loop.
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>>149372659
and of course to infantalize the women who engage in the relationships, making them these faceless dolls. this is Very Good.
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>>149370597
when did papika become an inductor
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>>149372715
yeah I mean for all the ominousness and artificiality of the setting Papika and Cocona did not seem to be play-acting in the same way.
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>>149372707
The 12th ring of the bell only happens at the end of the 12th hour.

Or 24th hour. They didn't really specify how long the days were.
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Need someone to draw FF ver of this, with ghost girls as skeleton and PPK CCN as the dudes.
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>>149372715
Cocona definitely got wet in this scene.
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>>149372756
Well, the whole episode kind of begs the question: what was the "feeling born in their hearts" that the episode synopsis talked about?
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>>149372635
MTF or FTM?
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Is Yayaka gay or just concerned for her tomodachi?
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>>149369354
debug
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>>149372800
They didn't want to stop at finger sucking and hand holding in bed. They want to go even further and man I really hope they do
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>>149372824
Why so many quoting clusters?
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>>149372820
She got pissed that CCN didn't play along
>>149372824
Gokigenyou~.
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>>149369550
>Yuri industry criticism hypothesis
we're an industry now? is sakura trick our Wal*Mart?
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>>149372824
ever heard of spitballing? it's basically that
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>>149372841
It doesn't feel like the episode actually showed that though. I need to re-watch it, but it seems like the only feeling that helped them break the timeloops was
>muh fragments
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>>149372846
he's from /pol/
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>>149372603
>Also, you're an asshole.
He started it first.

>What anon is trying to say in his anti-social way is that showing those worlds and events would have just been PI-of-the-week filler and thus was rightfully cut from this single-cour show in favour of more story-heavy developments.
Yes I know, but that doesn't change the fact that some people do want to watch it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>149372824
>""""""""
Gee, I wonder what board you're from.
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hi /a/ I'm almost a normie and I never post here except on occasional one piece threads but I just want to say I stumbled into this show tonight on accident, marathoning the few episodes it has. I Love it and I'm glad to see it's popular here.
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>>149372922
Good, but please lurk so you dont make a fool of yourself.

Your new is showing.
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>>149372945
I am new that's the point.
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>>149372824
Don't use that many quotation marks, ``please''.
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>>149372897
Is that also the guiding motivation behind that post's inclusion of hesitation speckles?
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>>149372880
Yeah you're right I'm just a degenerate
I want to see those flaps getting flipped
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>>149372922
Show it to your litte sister or niece.
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>>149372952
Wait a few years before making even one more post.
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The other interpretation of the episode I can see is that the world is eternally repeating, waiting for the yuri to come and usher in the next day. It can't happen normally because all the inhabitants are spooky ghost robots, which is why it's up to Cocona and Papika to ring the bell the 12th time with their LoveLove Power and move the world forward.
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>>149372963
And then brush her teeth.
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>>149372981
I've been on 4chan since like 2007 fampai.
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>>149372957
>hesitation speckles

are you Dr. Seuss?
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/tv/ was a mistake
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>>149372997
Different boards act differently and have their own codes of conduct.
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>>149372922
Thanks anon. Treat yourself to some good, hot, black coffee.
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>>149372985
why not both
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>>149372997
Uh I'm sure Hiro created 4chan last year.
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Is it possible that the real world is another form of Pure Illusion and nobody knows it besides Dr. Salt?
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yo what the hell happened with those goons at the end of episode 1 and the chloroform and the net gun. didn't cocona just wake up in her bed at the beginning of ep 2?
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>>149373064
I've had this thought as well. Since Cocona has a fragment in her thigh, would removing it destroy that world's illusion, whatever it may be?
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>>149373064
That's clearly the point of all this, I'm just wondering if it's like the matrix and there's a "real" world tying it all together.
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>>149373098
Cocona got injected with synth sperm in her arm.
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I said it before and I'm gonna say it again. Class S is what happens when some people glorify and enjoy something that has been conditioned in a harsh manner. Such conditioning manifests from the perverted libidinal system inside the all-girl boarding school that reproduces the established order, complete with its panoptikon. So harsh, that all the pain turns into an obverse form, a broken sexual impossibility. It is not a separate side from the enforcement of the purity from Catholic nuns, it is part of 'the game' that you have to play. Although I'm not sure if it's related to Christian theology or something, as some radical theologists (read: loons) would argue. It does happen in Islamic boarding school too, but in the form of subtle male homoeroticism.
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>>149373064
No that's not possible at all.

It's also not possible that the cult are trying to make their world replace the "real world"(which we have not seen yet) which would make Cocona's world the new base reality but destroy the old base reality and kill billions of humans. See when Yayaka says "world conquest" she means conquering base reality, not Cocona's world.

There's no way that could be true though.
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>>149373118
It would probably just destroy Cocona.
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>>149373217
the sarcasm here flew over my head.
nice theory though.
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>>149372086
Truly the Evangelion of yuri.
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>>149373118
It will destroy the illusion of the world that she normally lives in. When this happens in the final episode, the show will become live action for the last few minutes.
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>>149372086
>if she chooses the heterosexual route, as Japanese society demands, then she will feel imprisoned and miserable.
reminds me of a certain lesbian in the future.
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>>149373266
That means Papika will die because she's too perfect to be 3D.
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>>149373282
so excited for season 2.
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>>149373266
That reality has already been destroyed by Papika and Flip Flappers.

The illusion of pure wonder that has made her dull life more vibrant and fun will come to an end.
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>>149372824
I'm waiting for this queer /a/u/ bullshit to get E X P O S E D hard.
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You know I kind of feel like the story that the creators are trying to tell in these 13 episodes might just be too ambitious for something that short. Hence why we keep getting skips in time between episodes, there simply isn't time in the 13 episode series to have all of that happening on screen so it is just skipped as off screen action the characters imply happened which makes the story more unclear and confusing for some. I mean just look at the way they skipped over those two really cool lookin pure illusions where Yayaka stole the amorphous, those could have each had an episode built around themselves in a series with greater length. Even now with the speed the plot progresses and with all the skipping I feel like it's going to be difficult for them to finish the over arching plot in any satisfactory way unless the really ramp up the amount of plot important material each episode going forward. I mean at the moment the plot moves so slowly you barely notice it happening yet it does still advance.
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>when your new girlfriend and your childhood friend aren't getting along
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Dat reference from "The Shining."
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>>149373365
Those two episodes they skipped wouldn't have been anywhere near the quality of episode 5 though.
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>>149373266
>in the final episode, the show will become live action for the last few minutes.
I'll masturbate everyday for 3 weeks if this happens.
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>>149370430

What is the name of that song?
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it creeps me out more that the spirits watch instead of rushing out immediately
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>>149373365
Not really. It can deliver as long as they don't waste time spoonfeeding retards with expositions or infodump scenes/episodes.
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>>149373411
That is an extremely frustrating gif.
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>>149369606
I just assume its a special guitar that release some strong noise with high vibration that smashes their innards/bones.
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>>149373432
Nice catch.
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>>149373432
I didn't notice those three before.
Gonna watch the whole episode again after DDY gets uploaded.
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It's called FLIP FLOPPers because papika wears flip flops
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>>149373470
I really wish these encodes weren't absolute shit.
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>>149373432
>>149373500
its cute if you imagine them standing on each other's shoulders to peer out the window
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I dont get what's so great about this. Do I have to be on LSD to enjoy it?
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>>149373523
No need.
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>>149373432
>>149373500
>>149373561
GOKIGENYOU
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OK guys, I'm seeing a whole lot of analysis about menstruation and phallic symbols. Well you geniuses, what does this symbolize?
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>>149373579
Cockona.
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>>149373561
>mfw their heads starts tilting
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>>149373558
You can try it for the first few episodes, especially 03, but don't expect to be able to pay attention to any of it. The visuals will be nice but the show is already eye candy without.

I do not recommend watching the latest episode on LSD.
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At the beginning of the episode, talking about impedance, Flip Flap scientist otaku says 'Your opponents are rock solid, they were built differently, including their brains'
Cocona replies 'built?' and then the conversation moves on.

So Papika and the twins being constructed lifeforms is pretty much confirmed.
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>>149373579
Papika's burning desire to have Cocona's fingers inside of her. What else would symbolise?
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>>149372715
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>>149373438
Yeah but the way they keep skipping things that would have been fun or interesting suggests that they had a much larger story they wanted to tell but just don't have time to in 13 episodes so are looking for ways to compress it. I think its clear now with the number of "end of episode shows cliffhanger/ timeskip past cliffhanger next episode" episodes we have had now that it isn't just a one off tool they were using. Whether that works or not remains to be seen of course, I think it still needs to speed up the amount of plot relevant material if it is going to resolve nicely though.
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>>149373438
No one wants expositions, they want more fun filled adventure episodes.
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>>149373380
Does this mean he was also forced into the schoolgirl yuri cult? Is the boy twin our guy?
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>>149373579
Was too quick to post, didn't realize the loop was a bit messed up. Better version.
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>>149369147
You don't control the narrative here, cisgender white male otaku.
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Everytine U see Yayaka, I jusy want to punch my screen. When is Coconuts beat the living shit out of her?
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>>149373722
She gets hot and bothered when she's with Yayaka.
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>>149373694
The don't say Gokigenyou, thus were completely unaffected. The uniforms where probably just to blend in.
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>>149373722
I can imagine it happening at some point if Yayaka really hurts Papika.
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>>149373743
pure delusion
Yayaka is a heterosexual shit
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>>149373759
>taking the side of the new girl instead of your best friend.
why is Cocona such a bad friend?
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This episode ties into what I think is one of the major themes of the series, the expression and control of sexual impulse in both healthy and destructive ways. For example, one significant piece of symbolism I never got to bringing up in the threads for episode 3 was the mask Cocona was in. This mask was unbridled, all-overriding Id in its true form. Id is simply the animal urges that lie beneath human personality. It is these higher traits that give us individuality as distinct people, without that, as simple Id-ridden beings we would merely be a homogeneous mass of base instinct. This, of course, is what the witch's hedonist gimp orgy is. The witch claimed to only give Cocona what she secretly wanted inside. By letting her urges be fulfilled with no moderation or control from her higher self, Cocona became a faceless thing, raging like a beast with no knowledge of that which her humanity loved most, and raging against it with no remorse. This is truly uncontrolled sexuality, a horribly destructive force, as emphasized by the vagina dentata that frame the masked Cocona in her vessel, the ultimate symbol of sexual engagement as destruction. Cocona's dumb rampage ultimately ends when Papika identifies her by name; her identity, her personal self is restored over the unchecked urge, and she returns to being a person rather than a faceless automaton. In this way the necessity of some type of control over one's own sexuality and the evil of uncontrolled sexuality is shown, as this control of Id is the very thing that allows a personality to manifest.
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>>149373809
Papika knows how to show a girl a good time.
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>>149373809
You can always make up with your friend, but you can never regain your love once it's lost.
>>149373856
Shut up, I ain't reading that.
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>>149369455
Shota wearing a female uniform. I DIG IT
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So, why did one KyoAni fan come and flame the fanbase here? Isn't Hibikek a guaranteed success in sales anyway?
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>>149373856
Of course, this episode focuses on the nightmarish, unmoving limbo that results from an idealistic fantasy divorced from reality is imposed on someone, looping back to the start to never allow the sexual union to be truly consummated, a perpetual frustration to the rightful end to one's own self-driven sexuality. While the obvious nature of the repetitive, fake world has been pointed out, it's interesting to note its relation to and interaction with the part of Pure Illusion modeled after the real world that it borders. For one, it is bordered by and led into by a building that is fully of the real world in its form, but its own form is entirely of its own; it is not a representation of anything real, but purely its own conception that only exists within the realm of illusion. It is of an entirely different construction and sort from reality, as can be seen by the transition in the floor where the realm of reality ends and the realm of fantasy unto itself begins. And yet, it is not fully separated from the real, as it exerts its influence over it, making the real world more like its own image. The faceless girls have colonized a classroom in the real building and seek to lead in those of the realm of reality to their world, to become trapped there as residents of that unreality as they are. Those of this fantasy seek to draw those outside of it into it, to make them unto their image. Indeed, the influence of their realm is so compelling, that even before Cocona has truly entered it, she can start to see that which is not of any true reality imposed upon what she knows as the reproduction of what her own objective senses have observed (when she sees the out-of-place schoolbuilding in the until then real schoolyard as she approaches the boundary separating the worlds).
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>>149373856
I read this and enjoyed it.
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>>149373960
they just mad that they'll never get any real gay.
also, rubbing their success on our face because it feels good to be better than others.
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As one gets close enough to this illusion, they begin to see it as truly real, with its fantasies imposed upon the solidly extant by their own eyes. This influence of the fantasy realm over the image of reality has caused this perception of reality to take on the fantasy's essential aspects, which are primarily the oppressive rain and gloom that pours upon any trapped within the fantasy's influence. So, by influencing the perception of reality of those who are within the realm where this fantasy has any connection to reality or allowed influence over it, one becomes almost as oppressed by it as those who enter it in full belief. So, this episode shows how a sexual fantasy that denies the consummation of the desire and urge that is sex's reason to be not only creates a looped, never-advancing trap for those who are conceived of within this fantasy, but also imposes its life-draining denial upon those who live within a reality where this fantasy is conceived of and holds portent. So, the destructive side of the control of sexual urge and how it creates a sterile limbo of perpetual infantilism is also shown.
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>>149374004
same
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>>149373960
Hibikek is very class S. The fan probably didn't appreciate their favorite studio getting called out by upstart little 3hz.
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>>149374098
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>>149374098
I watched Hibikek S1, and I'm still fucking mad with the novel spoiler. I heard KyoAni often does yuribait and then turning het at the end. I don't really know that studio because for the majority of my life I was a Gainax and Sunrise drone.

It was a delicious bait, too.
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>>149373856
>>149373998
>>149374033
Sorry if this is rambling, repetitive, and generally badly written, but I'm horribly sleep deprived and my computer shut down when I was 3/4 through writing something that I thought was quite clever, so I tried to remake it from memory without falling asleep.
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>>149374144
What ENB did they use?
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>>149374144
this looks very het to me. hibikekfags on suicide watch.
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>>149374173
>>149374190
MC is gross too.
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>>149374219
Kumiko turned fat, apparently.
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>>149374156
Just dump it in the pastebin so that it's tidier. Imageboard format is pretty bad for long-ass paragraphs.
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What's this show like?

YuYuYu? Shin Sekai yori? Samurai Falmenco? A mix? Not really into whacky stuff like Kill la Kill
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>>149374316
peter greenaway
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>>149374190
Very hetro.
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>>149374316
Fortunately is nothing like those shit shows.
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>>149374316
family guy
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>>149374316
It's Madoka with lesbians
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>>149374316
More like Jintai.
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>>149374341
I'm glad I never picked this up.
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Everyone talking about the first half, but seriously the tower BGM was one of the hypest shit I have heard in this year, that alone gave me a boner.

The rest of the episode was godlike, but the clock tower chase is probably my favorite moment of animation in this year. Yea this actually managed to dethrone Luluco and I can't believe it...
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>>149374433
Light novel adaptations are never watchable
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>>149374316
It's the Evangelion of the Madoka genre.
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>>149374426
Didn't Jintai have an arc that made fun of all-girl schools/marimite as well?
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>>149374153
You mean about her getting together with Shoe? I didn't really understand where that came from since she always acted indifferent towards him. But that suit Kumiko's general attitude in some way, like "it's time to get a boyfriend I guess, whatever".
And Reina probably thinks that dating a boy her age is too normal so she wants something more special like her teacher or homosexual relationship so I'm not sure if her feelings are GENUINE.
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>>149374468
Yes. It got pretty heavy but the resolution was awesome.
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>>149374479
>she always acted indifferent towards him.
She's generally butthurt towards him and how he called her ugly.
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>>149369322
He is not wearing his coat, he only has it over his shoulders but his arms are not in
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>>149374316
OK, basically the premise is magical girls in the vein of madoka meets alice in wonderland (which is really a no-brainer come to think of it now). Then there's a (good?) organization versus an evil organization who are pretty much like nerv from eva and the KKK meets scientology respectively, but we haven't seen much about either yet.
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>>149374454
Of course they're not. It's not the same thing you perceive when reading it and I prefer what I am imagining.
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>>149374538
>his arms are not in
B-but then, where are they?
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>>149374433
The image you posted made me laugh more than it should have.
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>>149374555
This show would be really neat as an LN. Youd get more detail fleshed out than it looks like we're going to get in this story.

I never like novel adaptations. No matter how good the art, it will always clash with your imagination.
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>>149373856
>>149373998
>>149374033
I think to make any of this matter to the character development the series is taking as a whole, it needs to be said that the whole reason the concept of sexuality being productively or destructively allowed or controlled is relevant is because figuring out how to regulate one's sexuality and to what degree is one of the primary concerns of coming of age. This is essentially a coming of age story, and all coming of age is basically figuring out how to relate and actualize that within oneself so that you can meaningfully interact with the reality around you in a mature and productive manner. Among other things, Cocona is experiencing multiple ways to deal with or conceptualize her sexuality (and her relation to the world around her, of which sexuality is a deeply visceral subset) towards the end of finding a way to face the world before her and derive some sort of positive meaning from it.
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>>149374587
Uiharu has potential to be a lesbian if she spends too much time with the beautiful Kuroko.
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>>149374702
But Uiharu already kisses and cuddles with Saten.
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>>149370190
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>>149374802
if only
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>>149370150
Himemiya Academy.
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How can a 30 year old virgin get into Pure Illusion?
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What did it mean?
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>>149370190
I would cry and this show would be one of my best show that I will never rewatch again, like Now and Then, Here and There.
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>>149374935
First you need to find someone who cares about you.
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>>149374935
You already entered one as soon as you practice waifufaggotry.

>>149374948
Bumping clams.
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>>149374864
I don't know, the series pretty strongly seems to suggest she and Saten touch each other in non-PG13 ways.
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>>149374935
You have to open the hole.
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>>149374935
Bu-chan cyberization.
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>>149374948
yurishits taking the bait
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>>149374982
>>149375007
And this?
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>>149375036
Yayaka being a transgender.
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>>149375036
wincest
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>>149375036
DELETE THIS.
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>>149375036
Natural reaction to a QT robot boy trap in a school uniform.
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>>149375036
That's what LGBT fucks usually use to show gender ambiguity.
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>>149375036
The artist formally known as Buchan.
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.
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G̶̙̥̤̥̦̺̥̐̎͑̍̋̅̾͋̕ǫ̴̡̛̩̩͉̼̮̙̊͊̌̈̈̾͘͢͝ͅḴ̢̛͍͓̱̰̮̞̬̾͗̄̀̈́̂̋ȉ̜͕̗̹͇̥̝͇̈́̆͒̋G͈̘̜͍̤̝͂̆͌̒͡ͅȅ̡̢͇͓̲̺̗͍̯̣͐̀͆̒N̢͍̻̘̖̼͙͛̀͛̅̀͗̔̿ẏ̺͇̝̯̯͚̥̗̓̌̚͟͝͞Ờ̶̡̧̱̗͓̪̠̑̽͞ư̲̤̯͙̗͇͔̜̬̲͆̀̀͞
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>>149375193
ごki嫌ヨウ
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>>149372025
The amorphous tower is a clearly phallic symbol. You are right in that there is little judgment of the whole ordeal, but "the dick comes after Class S" is definitely part of the message.
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>>149375222
其記夏ン用宇
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I must confess that Papika sucking on Cocona's finger gave me lewd thoughts.
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>Boys in dresses
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>>149375335
Too many kanji kill the purpose. For the life of me, I wouldn't have read this shit as "Gokigenyou" if you had not quoted me.
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>tfw I would rather leave them in this looping world.
>These scared girls were cute as fuck.
>I am one of the disgusting ghosts.
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>>149375395
Its manyogana
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>>149375396
>I am the blue hair crossdresser who gets to fuck them all forever
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>>149375405
>look up the thing
Dude what the fuck?
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>>149375405
Mayonegg?
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I'm a little concerned with this show's habit of skipping large chunks of story between episodes. We don't know anything about the organization Papika works for because we skipped the period where logically we would have gotten some exposition on that. Who were those dudes in armor in the first episode that tried to date rape the girls? Doesn't matter, resolved off screen. How many plot device stones have they collected? Fucked if we know, we skipped several adventures.

I know part of the point of the show is to be ambiguous and leave it up to interpretation, but there's being ambiguous and there's just being annoying.
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>>149375551
God fucking damnit why does my tribe have to be a/ ;_;
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>>149375596
Tone down your autism, it should help.
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>>149375596
I remember when I started watching one of the first few episodes I was worried I missed an episode.
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>>149375596
It's a curious quirk and I'm interested to see if there's some sort of payoff. There has to be, right? The fact that episodes end in cliffhangers which which end up being resolved off-screen is just bizarre.

One aspect I do like is that it prolongs the period of mystery and keeps the viewer invested. We're almost halfway through the season and know almost nothing about what's going on.
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>>149375596
>Who were those dudes in armor in the first episode that tried to date rape the girls?
Cocona doesn't know, she was drugged and woke up in her bed the next morning.

>How many plot device stones have they collected?
The clocktower one was the second one they managed to retrieve, pay attention.

It's not very ambiguous at all so far, they just haven't revealed what is going on since Cocona doesn't know any of it. As far as she is concerned she is going along with Papika and collecting the fragments because it's fun, nobody at Flip Flap told her anything more than that.
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>>149373500
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Did anyone notice that Papika use shi instead of yon for the number 4? I thought that was pretty uncommon these days since shi reminds people of death.
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>>149375764
Something as straightforward and precisely defined like numbers having multiple words for the same one will never be not weird to me
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>>149375764
Papika is too baka to be concerned with that
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On scale of glasslip deep to NGE deep, how deep this show is?
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>>149375764
>I thought that was pretty uncommon these days since shi reminds people of death.
Really? I remember in primary school we learnt shi when learning Japanese numbers.
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>>149375866
Between Yuri Bear and Pingudrum.
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>>149375866
Garzey's Wing / 10
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>>149375866
Ichigo Mashimaro
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>>149375789
I don't know about other languages, but as far as Sinosphere countries go (Korea, Japan, Vietnam), 60% of their vocabulary was taken from Middle Chinese due to the prolonged cultural invasion. That's why there are a lot of double readings for a same thing, one is the truly native language, one has Chinese origin.
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>>149375764
As a baka gaijin, I always say "ichi, ni, san, shi" and I'm pretty sure I've heard lots of Japanese speakers use "shi" as well. In Shirobako, Ema's dance also says this.

I also just asked my gf and she said "し。言いやすいから"
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>>149375866
I wouldn't say it's deep, but it's very visually stylized and it's pretty emotionally involving.
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>>149369383
>that sfx
it was so good
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>>149375996
>I wouldn't say it's deep
With all the symbols and metaphors?
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>>149376115
It's an undershirt.
Have you never worn an undershirt?
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>>149376115
When do you think we'll get the doujins that this scene will inspire?
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>>149376115
How do you not know what an undershirt is anon?
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>>149376115
>>149376149
It's a camisole.
You uncultured savage.
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>>149376172
And camisole are a type of undershirt. Good job, anon.
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>>149376199
Yes, but you have to be specific in these things.
You need to have some delicacy anon.
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The first shot in the episode is already very significant. Dicktower is shown before the girls. The episode went out of its way to show us that this PI worlds exists before they enter it. It is unknown whether Yayaka is inside already however.
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>>149376330
When they encountered her, she seemed genuinely surprised. She didn't noticed them right in front of her right away and didn't seem to notice she was wearing a uniform until they pointed it out to her.
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>>149373960
Some people believe that you aren't allowed to like more than one thing, and think that everything is competing with each other. For them, since this show has good animation and is popular (on /a/ at least), it's the biggest rival of Hibike, and you can only watch either of them.
tl;dr: see attached image.
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>>149376416
It would help if Hibike was any good.
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>>149375036
"IT'S A TRAP"
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This character literally serves no purpose.
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>>149376506
Her purpose is to provide the comfort of ordinary life to Cocona. And she's probably the final boss.
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Why is this baka happy about cold floor? You’d think she’d have enough of that given that’s what she sleeps on every night.
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>>149376568
Dogs often like to move from a carpet to a floor at night to stay cool.

Basically the "Papika is a god" hypothesis seems correct.
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>>149369199
Good lord, he's so chuuni
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>>149376403
That also explains why they left them with the fragment a bit more. Just hitting the bell once isn’t that big of a deal, especially if you can simply start over and try again. The hard part and why you don’t want to start over again is that the world sucks you in. You might not be aware enough to even try to escape the next time.

Yayaka perceived their group to have been in danger, so they most likely were inside that world for quite some time already.
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>>149376583
>"Papika is a god" hypothesis
I like it.
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>>149376542
That implies Cocona will have to leave ordinary life behind, which I don't think is going to happen, while I think people read too much into a few things, I want to believe FliFla will conclude with something a bit more sophisticated than 'by a stroke of luck directionless school girl goes on magical adventures'. That's preschool level.
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>>149376672
>>149376583
dog*
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>>149376682
>Cocona stabs her finger while embroidering
>her dog just fucking gnaws her finger
Rude dog.
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>>149373500
Good encodes are great for better WebM's.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1478253872195.webm
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>>149376737
Except that webms are so shit that they’ll look like arse no matter the source.

Really nice for watching though, I pity the non Aryans
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>>149376737
I hope that's not your example of a good webm. Is the source better than HS?

Also
>Freut mich!
It sounds so awkward as a greeting out of nowhere.
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>>149376737
Best scene of the episode tbqh.
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>>149376506
She's the end boss.
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>>149376737
Papika's VA reminds me of Miu here.
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>>149376827
I wouldn't say it's a good webm, but it's not bad for the resolution. The one over at wsg is more or less acceptable, because the extra bitrate is actually worth it. The source is much better than HS. It's what GJM-DDY is using from episode 3 onwards.

The fight scenes go up to nearly Bluray bitrate (~16 Mbps). Average bitrate is ~8000 kbps.
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>>149376737
>Freut mich!
Don't know how to feel about that.
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>>149376827
>Is the source better than HS?
Much better. Still not enough for the scenes with way too much movement though. I’ve yelled at the respective authorities but they seem to believe that a streaming site should have video that’s still actually streamable, so it’s unlikely to go much higher than the already quite substantial file sizes.

>>149376918
vbv_maxrate is 13312 though. It can go beyond that during short bursts but generally the limit is below that.
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>>149377137
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>>149377079
but didn't she say some autistic shit in Japanese too?
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>>149377171
Papika is feral, not autistic.
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>>149377171
頼もう

Not exactly the best way to be polite but hey, they were scared and it was a haunted house. Can't blame someone for sayin' "Hey there" or some shit like this.
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>>149377137
Well, yeah. I'm talking about the short bursts.
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>>149377209
I'd fuck her like a beast.
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>>149377137
They really should do away with the hardsubs.
It must be something with their streaming contract though, because AnimeLab and mostly everyone besides CR has hardsubbed video for this anime.
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>>149377348
Cocona.

Girls can't fuck other girls.
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>>149377262
>they were scared and it was a haunted house
Doesn't she say the same thing in the normal school? It's her thing.
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>>149377385
How can GJM-DDY use it as video source when it's hardsubbed? Are they overlaying another video on the area where the subs are or something like that?
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>>149377385
The problem is that there simply isn’t a good way to render softsubs in a browser. Crunchyroll is an especially hilarious case because their subs are actually well timed (save for the occasional encoding hiccup that removes a frame and hence shifts the subtitles by 40ms) unlike the bullshit that for example Daisuki pulls - yet you don’t see that on their site at all because the subtitle renderer fucks it all up. To see their timing efforts you need to download HS rips.

>>149377434
Yes.
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>>149377434
They're masking the subs and probably merging the HS frames on top, or they're filling it in it from the surrounding area that wasn't masked. I have no idea how to do it that well myself, but they probably have scripts for it since people have been removing hardsubs from Funimation sources for years.

>>149377449
There's definitely some library they can use to render softsubs in a browser. For the simple typesetting they're doing something like libjass works fine. Not sure how they'd incorporate it into their streaming approach though.
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>>149377504
I’ve tested libjass, the subs are off by a few frames very often, that produces noticeable scene bleeds.
If you know of something that actually works, reliably so, go ahead.
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>>149377597
Is it really that bad? The test example works pretty well in my opinion. Before mediacrush went down it worked pretty well too.

http://fb39ca4.github.io/ass.js/index.html
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>>149370951
Papika is 153 cm, tho
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>>149377744
It got zero keyframes correctly in my quick test just now.

Until that’s fixed no streaming site that actually cares about quality should use it. It doesn’t matter for the downloaders of course, but we’re not the primary customers. The only reason Crunchyroll etc use this approach is because it makes life one hell of a lot easier for them and they don’t give a fuck about quality anyway. (They haven’t even touched their entire encoding setup since about 2012)
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>>149378286
Could you try this one on Chromium? This one looks like it's fully update to date with git. Honestly, this one looks good enough for me if I was streaming. Frame-perfect subtitle rendering should be left to a stand alone player.

https://arnavion.github.io/libjass/demo/index.xhtml
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>>149378396
Still off by one, hardsubs for comparison.

It’s worse than hardsubs, even without going into the problems seeking brings.
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>>149378693
Except hardsubs irreversibly alter the video. There's a good reason why anime groups stopped hardsubbing stuff even when ASS renderers were a fairly novel idea. Name me one streaming service that actually has frame perfect ASS subtitle rendering.

Netflix subtitle timing is trash. Amazon subtitle timing is trash. People who stream won't care about being 1 frame off (I'm assuming this is a significant improvement over the other one). If the timing looks better than CR, then it's an improvement as far as legal anime streaming goes. And if people want to, they can simply download the video and get subs "correctly" timed to keyframes.
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