Dragon Ball S feels like Elementary school fan fic

>>149320599
Use the catalog retard >>149300208

>>149320599
Well, I'm not loving it but I completely agree, it does feel like a fanfic by a school kid.

>>149320599
GOKU GOT INJURED BY A NORMAL FUCKING LASER...

WHILE FREEZER WAS CUT IN TWO, BURNED BY GOKUS' ENERGY BEAM AND UNCONSCIOUS BUT STILL SURVIVED A PLANET EXPLODING... THAT'S THE MOMENT I DROPPED THE SERIES

>>149323840
>THAT'S THE MOMENT I DROPPED THE SERIES
sure you did

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I want a spin-off manga featuring the Ginyu's

>>149323840
Calm down autist.

>>149323840
See you Sunday

shitty thread but we might as well migrate here.

>>149320599
Reminder ningens are the best

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>>149320599
It's literally a Sunday morning cartoon for jap children that isn't allowed to show blood. What do you expect

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>>149325639

>>149325915
Best Zamasu moment so far

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>>149325915
HAKAI

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>>149326025

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This smile needs to be protected at all costs.

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hello ningen I am here to suck cock

>>149326440
hi

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>>149326464
hi where is cock

>>149326171
>cute
>spry
>wants to ride Trunks' Great Ape
Mai is the ultimate cougar.

>>149324823
It would be pretty cool to see the inner workings of the group and how frieza's force works in general

>>149323840
>GOKU GOT INJURED BY A NORMAL FUCKING LASER...
That laser isn't any laser tho

>>149323840
Did you throw a fit when Krillin hit Goku with a rock too?

The problem isn't that it's fanfiction, the problem is that it's bad fanfiction. Trunks' introduction is possibly the most fanfiction tier thing in the history of fiction, but it was okay because it was awesome. Super is just lazy and boring.

>>149327040
Back then it was bad filler and no one really cared.

Now the main series is the bad filler.

>>149327064
>but it was okay because it was awesome
Babidi Flashback in the manga was plenty awesome. I can't say the same for the tv adaptation though.

>>149323840
Meanwhile, Arale got hit by a laser with her guard down and laughed it off.

You suck, Goku.

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>>149327064
yeah
at least I had something good to focus on

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>>149327121
Pretty sure it was an anti Goku Lazer guys come on.

>>149320599
So Dragon Ball?
>>149320633
Fuck off generalfag.

>>149327213
Arale is still stronger.

>>149320599
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

Shueisha has established a new initiative — the “Dragon Ball Room” — specifically focused on interdepartmental collaboration to support and expand upon the Dragon Ball franchise.

Shueisha Establishes “Dragon Ball Room” to Expand and Optimize Content

Shueisha revealed that it had newly established a “Dragon Ball Room” on June 21st of this year. Its goal is to break down barriers between departments to expand and optimize the globally popular Dragon Ball franchise.

The announcement was made at Shueisha’s new publication planning presentation held in Tokyo on the 12th. Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”

Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”

Dragon Ball is a hit manga that ran in Weekly Shōnen Jump from 1984 to 1995; its comics have sold over 240 million copies. The story centers on Son Goku, a boy with outstanding fighting sense, his adventures to get the Dragon Balls (which grant any wish when all seven are gathered), and his stiff competition against various rivals. A TV anime began broadcasting in 1986, and its popularity has endured even beyond the end of the original manga; Dragon Ball Super is currently airing.

>>149320599
>Show created for elementary school children feels elementry

that being said, Goku was my Jesus growing up. WWGD

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>>149327121
>You suck, Goku.
>Implying all ningens don't suck by equal

>>149323840
Damn it's almost like Freiza is an alien from a race known to have survivability or something....

Every villain who knows the kamehameha is shit.

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Every saturday, the franchise gets raped

It's sad...

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>>149328679
>implying

>>149328756
Not sure why, but this picture should go to the drawfag threads.

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>>149328679
>Piccolo is shit

>>149328756
Toriyama is partly to blame for having such barebone plot outlines but even he is disappointed in Toei's quality.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/
I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

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>>149326171
And protected it will be. In addition she will receive a healthy amount of saiyan cock applied to her womb, daily.

>>149329109
Maybe he means villains who can use Kamehameha, like Cell, Buu and Black.

>>149325915
WTF IT'S NOT FAIR FUCKING NINGEN DELETE THIS

>>149329159
>those expressions
You just know they're going to fuck like wild animals.

>>149329144
The manga sucks too. He put the AF creator at his side. Seriously, AF was a mistake

>>149329398
Toyotaro is not the creator of AF. He is the doujin artist that created the fan manga which was based on pre existing AF stuff floating on the web.

>>149329386
You know Mai will insist on doing her part to repopulate the earth.
And the more quarter-alien ubermensch, the better

>>149329434
But all the AF design sucks,specially the Xicor one

>>149329494
This game is garbage

>>149329481
If it wasn't for Toyotaro working for Toriyama the revival of the Dragon Ball franchise wouldn't even be a thing right now.
We'd literally be having Boruto tier bullshit if it wasn't for him.

>>149329494
>>>/v/

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>>149329450
And Trunks will gladly accept her help.

>>149329494
What butt?

>>149329607
You call this shit a revival? It's more like milking the franchise

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>>149329646
Buutts

>>149329685
Yes it's a revival whether you like it or not. I agree it's milking the franchise but that doesn't change the fact that it's top in popularity in Japan usurping One Piece.

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>>149329386

>>149329706

As bad a Super is, it's 100 times more watchable than the one piece anime.

>>149329686
Taino is best girl.

>>149329706
And why should I be glad? Japaneses have shit taste anyway

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Remind me why people thought GT had good animation?

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>>149329686
It's time.

>>149329844
This is true.

>>149320599
>Fuck even the animation is kinda derpy
It's Toei, what did you expect?

>>149330614
Shitposting.

>>149330542
whatever you say Jose.

>>149328756
The only thing more sad is this picture, and how butthurt you are over it.

>>149330542
>Japaneses
Fuck off Pedro.

>>149330908
It's Manuel you burger eater

>>149331089
Pedro go to bed, you're cranky if you don't get your naps

>>149329565
How was Xenoverse 2 garbage? I heard there were improvements over the first one.

>>149331116
I guess you should be the cranky one having such a bad taste in animes

>>149323840
>GOKU GOT INJURED
>WHILE FREEZER GOT INJURED
I don't see your point.

>>149331260
like I said Pedro it's past your bed time.

>>149331387
How can you guess the time is Mexico? Looks like the Pedro is you.

And btw, in from Portugal. Sorry if your autism doesn't made you understand my joke.

>>149329685
What type of revival WOULDN'T be milking the franchise? The two are inseparable concepts.

>>149331451
You're not fooling anyone Jose.

>>149331451
>Portugal
How could you sit through this shitty dub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7muZaoTUQ

>>149331544
I guess it's because they're no care, quality or passion. It became so easy to fulfill the demands and make the fans happy with shitty fan services, a horrible, forced shipping and a deviantart game.

>>149331645
Again this old joke...anyway, I find it horrible too, but there's internet so I can watch it in other idioms

>>149331645
top kek, this is literally the worst.

>If you don't like my db fanfic you're mexican

Are amerifats really enjoying this garbage?

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>>149331706
Nah, it can get worse (better)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi2hIop9e7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJ58hJXSJs

>>149331738
It's funny, also because Mexicans always used to show obession with GT, AF and those furry, recolor garbages.

Americans proving to be stupids again.

>>149331738
>db fanfic you're mexican
I don't think you know what a fanfic is Pedro. GT is fanfic tier. Super is stuffed with padding and filler like content but the main plot is legitimate.

>>149331932
Legitimate crap.

>>149331977
So what if it is? You crying over it isn't helping. You must be new here.

>>149332015
>Gets butthurted and keep calling everyone mexican
>You crying over it isn't helping. You must be new here.

Laughable

so did the zamuras actually kill all the gods, or is it some translation and they just killed all the kais?

why do I find it unlikely they killed the future version of beerus and such

>>149332140
Looks like pedro is upset.

>>149332180
Killing the kais mean their respective Gods of Destruction dies as well, and Future Kaioshin died on the Future Babidi and Dabura attack, that's why Future Beerus is dead.

>>149332180
zamusas* oops

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>>149332180
>>149332302
>zamuras
>zamusas

>>149332302
>>149332264
and I fucked it up again, zamasu**

and yeah okay, I remember them briefly mentioning that now. A lot of confusing things happening.. alternate realities of alternate realities, etc etc.

smart on them then, kill the weaker one, goodbye strong one

>>149331932
Both GT and Super are shit my little amerifat

>>149324823
I love those guys. Really wanted the cptn to be back.

>>149330614
They were retarded kids when they saw it for the first time

>>149323840
>GOKU GOT INJURED BY A NORMAL FUCKING LASER...
>WHILE FREEZER WAS CUT IN TWO, BURNED BY GOKUS' ENERGY BEAM AND UNCONSCIOUS BUT STILL SURVIVED A PLANET EXPLODING...
They aren't even the same race.

>>149331645
That's only hilariously bad, not totally a shitty dub.

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can he defeat zumasu

>>149332140
Pedro please, you're making a fool out of yourself.

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>>149332140
Pedro, what have we told you about posting?

>>149324823
never

>>149323840
GOKU GOT INJURED BY A NORMAL FUCKING NECKCHOP...
WHILE MAJIN VEGETA WAS PUMMELED, EXPLODED BY GOKUS' KAMEHAMEHA AND HEAD BUTTED... THAT'S THE MOMENT I DROPPED THE SERIES

>its so easy to spot retards that never really watched or read Dragonball stuff

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LEAVE ZAMASU TO ME

>>149331932
>Super is stuffed with padding and filler like content but the main plot is legitimate.
Every time I read this I'm certain Super could be about a bucket of literal shit with Goku's face on it, and nostalgiafags would keep watching.

Is it top-notch anime? No.
Is it fun to watch? I would say so.

Pros: New characters are good
Cons: Animation quality dips, writing is a little stupid

>>149335394
Dragonball Xenoverse?
More like, Dragonball Xenophobe!

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

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>hurr durr GT has better animation because I only remember the good parts

>selfinsert meant for kids/teenagers watching DB/DBZ has his character absolutely destroyed in the Super universe
>call it bad fanfic
No, it would be bad fanfic if selfinsert Gohan was actually relevant. All Super is is lazy writing trying to milk some money out of nostalgiafags.

>>149337365
>LOOK EVERYONE, BAD ANIMATION
>posts a still
when will people learn that art style =/= animation
That's probably a fucking stretch inbetween
Who gives a shit about a single frame?

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>>149337440
Keep crying Jose

>>149337440
Nigga, none of the shows had good animation.

It's okay to like something that isn't perfect.

>tfw you enjoy all of the dragonballs because you know not to take them too seriously

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TRANSLATIONS WHEN?

>>149329286
Black only used it for posterity, his other overly flamboyant moves are much cooler.

>>149331451
https://youtu.be/KQVov2BNIcw
JAJAJAJA

>>149327114
Yeah it was pretty cool, but that's just because it was just scenes copied directly from Dragon Ball with Gohan replaced with Trunks.

Explain to someone whos never watched it. Why is GT so hated?

>>149337820
*unsheathes hand*
*cuts u in half*
"pshh nothing personell ningen"

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>>149340512
Oh boy

> Show starts with a shitty attempt to recapture the original DBs feel of adventure
> Goku's a kid throughout the whole show
> Butchered characters like Goten, Uub, Trunks, Bra, etc
> Characters didn't exist like Tien
> Characters didn't exist, except when they brought them back JUST to kill them (Piccolo, Krillin)
> Very minimal lore building. Played it too safe, and each main villain arc are just revenge stories.
> Feels more like a long OVA than a proper sequel
> Extreme power discrepancies, like Super 17's existence and Base Kid Goku being stronger than SS4 Goku at times
> GT: Goku Time.
> Secondary characters were shafted: Adult Trunks was weak shit, Pan never became SS, Goten was a joke, Gohan...despite that he supposedly kept up with his training, never did anything.
> The supposed second-coming of Goku, Uub, was shit. Even after fusing with Buu.
> Even Vegeta. All he did was become possessed, kill Nappa, fail to kill unfused Android 17, and fail to do anything with SS4
> SS4 Vegeta was ultimately useless, and looks like a raging faggot
> SS4 Goku's magic pants
> SS4 Goku vs building
> Terrible fighting choreography
> Art/animation is okay and more consistent than DBS, but it never impresses. GT's worse looking episode looks better than DBS's worst; but GT's "best" never comes close to the better quality DBS episodes.
> Only 1 arc out the 4 is decent (The Baby Saga)
> Black Star DB was dumb, Super 17 was shit, and the Shadow Dragon Saga was promising but was very disappointing.

However the OST is pretty nice

>>149340512
Basically it's boring and the plot doesn't really make sense

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>>149335394
Please don't turn /a/ into /m/

>>149341219
>SSJ4 Goku vs building

I don't remember that one
what's that about

So question. Is frieza's race asexual or do they have male and females. And if they have females why haven't we seen one yet?

Soo... if the Goku Zamasu is from the original timeline how did he get into Trunks' timeline? That makes no fucking sense.

>>149341358
Goku had trouble lifting a building.

He was trying to lift the building as a kid (where his Base is as strong as Buu Saga SS3 Goku), and he couldn't do it. He had to transform into SS4 to lift it.

And even then he looked like he was using a bit of effort as SS4, when it should've been extremely easy.

>>149341379
Asexual like Namekians.

King Cold is Freeza's only parent.

>>149341456
same as Super

>>149341414
Time ring allows traveling to other timelines.

>>149342016
Sure bud

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I really, REALLY think they need to do the right thing with Super at the moment and give it a break after Zamasu saga is over. Give it anywhere between 2-6 months to cool off. Keep Toyotaro doing the manga so it gets much further ahead than the anime is, and get Toei to follow the manga directly, as they did back in Toriyama's days, with potential for filler and extra details in the anime of course.

The two biggest problems with Super at the moment are that the manga does many of the plot points better, and the anime moves at too fast a pace for them to make it look any better than hot dogshit. DBS being an ongoing weekly was never going to be a good idea, have Toyotaro flesh out the manga more and then do a two or three cour run once a year. I mean, why the fuck not?

Pic related, was handled much better by Toyotaro than by the anime scriptwriters.

>>149342393
Toyotaro already said in an interview that the manga will be ahead of the anime soon.

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>>149342393
>handled much better by Toyotaro than by the anime scriptwriters

I agree for the most part, with a couple of exceptions:
> Piccolo vs Frost
> Goku vs Hit
> Goku using SSG again, when Toriyama said otherwise
> Hit being unimpressive in the manga
> That he likes to copy pasta older panels from the DBZ manga
> No Pan filler

Can someone ask YonkouProductions to translate the latest DBS chapter since Mangastream doesn't seem to be interested anymore?

>>149342511
>Piccolo vs Frost
Fair enough, it would have been better if Toyotaro didn't have to rush and chase after the anime.

>Goku vs Hit
Nope, this fight was better in the manga.
>Goku using SSG again, when Toriyama said otherwise
Toriyama said that Goku would not use SS2 and SS3 again.
He also said Whis 15, Beerus 10 and Goku 6 in terms of power yet SSB Kaioken x10 Goku isn't stronger than Beerus.

>Hit being unimpressive in the manga
His fighting style is more interesting in the manga and his character is better too.

>That he likes to copy pasta older panels from the DBZ manga
>it's ok when Toei does it

>No Pan filler
>shit filler
How is this a negative?

>>149342511
>No Pan filler
Toei have become masters of the filler episode:
>Episode 1
>Vegeta and family goes to the theme park
>Mr. Satan versus the space cats, featuring Super Saiyan Satan
>Vegeta sucks up to Whis
>Pan's birth
>Monaka vs. """""Son Goku""""
>Superhuman Water
These have all been ace so far, and all of them had adequate fan service, too. Still, Toyotaro handled some details much better than Toei, and although he's no 1980s/90s Toriyama, I think the anime could look much better if they had his manga to copy some battle poses and scenes from since they clearly can't seem to come up with much interesting in terms of battles themselves these days. That's just my opinion, though.

Mostly I'm just autistic as fuck about canon and it bugs me how far apart the manga and the anime are, plus the films once you throw them into the mix too. These, plus Heroes and whatever else, just make "post-DBZ" Dragon Ball an absolute clusterfuck and it'd by nice to see them a bit more unified with their efforts.

>>149342746
>Toei have become masters of the filler episode:
No, the fillers are shit they are so many cool ideas for filler that Toriyama mentions in various interviews and media such as in DBO where Krillin and Tien Shinhan reestablish the Turtle and Crane Schools, the origin of Mark's (Mr Satan) stage name and his run in with Tao Pai Pai, how Lapis (Android 17) is doing at his park ranger job or animating Jaco's manga thus giving him a proper introduction to the series. Nah screw that dedicate the first episodes of DBS to stupid crap like Trunks and Goten quest for water or Vegeta being a stick in the mud at a family outing.

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>power levels introduced just to show how they are just an arbitrary number, and can't be trusted
>shown to nothing but a distraction for Raditz/Nappa/Cui/Zarbon/Ginyu and the discrepancy is constantly changing as a difference of 1,000 barely makes a difference later on.
>power levels shown to be inconsistent during Freeza/Kakarot's fight, and the message was obviously spelled out that they were a primitive way of alien races judging a book by its cover
>people STILL think that a number can define a level of power anything past Freeza saga

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I miss him bros

>>149342848
It's amazing how stupid Dragonball fans are, yes.

>>149342837
>Krillin and Tien Shinhan reestablish the Turtle and Crane Schools
Timeline-wise I'm pretty sure that happens long after anything we've seen in Dragon Ball Super so far. No wonder we haven't had this filler episode, did you just skim-read this off of the Dragon Ball wiki and get mad that it hadn't happened yet?
>the origin of Mark's (Mr Satan) stage name and his run in with Tao Pai Pai
I guess they could throw a reference in somewhere? I don't feel like it's worthy of a full flashback episode
>how Lapis (Android 17) is doing at his park ranger job
17 was always shit, the less of him the better
>animating Jaco's manga thus giving him a proper introduction to the series
I wouldn't rule this one out, as a separate OVA or something like that.

>we will never have animation like this again

Kill me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWIIrsQtA-A

>>149343005
>Timeline-wise
DBO isn't canon the timeline doesn't matter.

>I don't feel like it's worthy of a full flashback episode
But all this garbage you mentioned before is worthly?
>Episode 1
>Vegeta and family goes to the theme park
>Mr. Satan versus the space cats, featuring Super Saiyan Satan
>Pan's birth
>Monaka vs. """""Son Goku""""
>Superhuman Water

Even the fucking Jelly Vegeta arc? Fuck off.

>17 was always shit
Refer back to your garbage list

>I wouldn't rule this one out
Too late now the RoF rehash already happened

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>>149343320
>Jelly Vegeta arc

>>149343315
b-but we will have vegito, right?

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>>149342689
> Nope, this fight was better in the manga.
I thought the anime version was much more hype

> Toriyama said that Goku would not use SS2 and SS3 again.
He said "maybe". In regards to SSG, Toriyama said that Goku absorbed SSG's power during his fight with Beerus. The is zero purpose for Goku to transform into SSG again.

Hence why Post-SSG SS1 Goku keeping up with 70% Beerus towards the end.

> He also said Whis 15, Beerus 10 and Goku 6 in terms of power yet SSB Kaioken x10 Goku isn't stronger than Beerus.
SSB Kaioken wasn't in the manga so we can safely assume it wasn't in Toriyama's script. And we have no confirmation that Beerus > SSB Kaioken x 10

> it's ok when Toei does it
Animating manga panels? Isn't that what they do? In this case it's manga to manga, which can makr it feel like a glorified doujin sometimes.

> How is this a negative?
I thought the Pan episode was great...so yeah. Provided much feels.

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Remember me?

>>149343516

>He said "maybe".
He also said that Goku learned that using SSJ1 he'd conserve more energy and be stronger than with SSJ2 and 3, which is why we likely wouldn't see them again. Obviously that has all been thrown away since SSJ2 and SSJ3 were portrayed as power ups over Post-God SSJ1.

>Hence why Post-SSG SS1 Goku keeping up with 70% Beerus towards the end.
In the movie version, he still powered up even further once he went SSJ God at the end of the battle though, stopping a blast that powered up SSJ couldn't.

>Animating manga panels? Isn't that what they do? In this case it's manga to manga, which can makr it feel like a glorified doujin sometimes.
He's likely talking about moments where the anime itself had shots clearly based on old ones. There are some big "homage" sequences like the Final Flash taken shot per shot from the Cell Saga one, but also smaller stuff.

IS IT SATURDAY YET?

I decided to watch DB Kai for the first time ever. DB is weird without Brucey's music. And new kid Gohan's voice sucks.

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>>149344329
>And new kid Gohan's voice sucks.
At least he sounds like a kid, and not a chick with throat cancer

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>>149343516
>I thought the Pan episode was great...so yeah. Provided much feels
>I thought the anime version was much more hype
Fair enough, both were shit imo

>He said "maybe"

There would be no reason to make such a statement about the weaknesses of SS2 and SS3, if it overall meant nothing.

>Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.
>sap less strength

Why would Goku use a form that sap more strength against Black when he has better alternatives? Also this was right after sparring with Trunks using both SS2 and SS3.

>Hence why Post-SSG SS1 Goku keeping up with 70% Beerus towards the end.
Funny enough later he transformed into SSG again. Go figure.


>SSB Kaioken wasn't in the manga so we can safely assume it wasn't in Toriyama's script
Obviously
>And we have no confirmation that Beerus > SSB Kaioken x 10
Beerus>Champa is confirmed. Hit>Goku SSB Kaioken x 10 is apparent becuase of Hit's muh improvement.
When Champa was bent on killing the Universe 6 fighters Hit was scared shitless, hell Beerus even dared Goku to defy a God of Destruction when he didn't like what Champa was doing. So I think it's pretty obvious, Goku SSB Kaioken x 10 is not stronger than Beerus.

>Animating manga panels?
If only, but I'm talking about copying shit from previous works stop playing dumb.

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>>149343908
>Goku learned that using SSJ1 he'd conserve more energy and be stronger than with SSJ2 and 3, which is why we likely wouldn't see them again.

He still uses SS1 more because it conserves energy. He nor Vegeta used SS2/SS3 in the Tournament arc for that reason.

> In the movie version, he still powered up even further once he went SSJ God at the end of the battle though, stopping a blast that powered up SSJ couldn't

But the quote I mentioned, Toriyama is specifically talking about the movie

Interviewer:
> Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?
Toriyama:
> I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God.

That SSG power up in the end could be explained by it being a final push with ki possibly leftover from the SSG Ritual. Or maybe it was something else. But Toyble bringing it back directly contradicts the interview above.

> homage
An "homage" is supposed to be special. But it's copypasta if it's done many times. Especially for smaller stuff.

>>149344848
>That SSG power up in the end could be explained by it being a final push with ki possibly leftover from the SSG Ritual
Nice headcanon.

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>>149344622
>There would be no reason to make such a statement about the weaknesses of SS2 and SS3, if it overall meant nothing.

It does explain why they uses it less than SS1

> Why would Goku use a form that sap more strength against Black

He gambled. You still get more power, but I guess Goku gambled the power sap.

> Funny enough later he transformed into SSG again. Go figure.
I addressed that here: >>149344848

>>149344885
I was making an educated guess. I like how you left out "maybe not".

I wasn't confirming anything. Only using the info we have (Toriyama's statement) and basing my assumption on that.

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>>149320599
Nico is best waifu

Who gives a fuck what happens in Alternate Trunks world, this literally has nothing to do with the main timeline so its like fucking filller that is canon.

>>149345110
His world is already fucked. They should have had Zamasu and Black come into the current timeline and fuck shit up. Maybe then other people could have helped....now I see why they didn't do that.

>>149345039
>It does explain why they uses it less than SS1
SS1 Goku vs Frost

SS2 Goku vs SS2 Future Trunks
SS3 Goku vs SS2 Future Trunks
SS2 Goku vs Black
SS2 Goku vs Zamasu

>He gambled
Pure speculation and he had no reason to do so because he had better alternatives. He didn't gamble with SS Grade 3 didn't he?

>I addressed that here
What this guy said >>149344885
>But Toyble bringing it back directly contradicts the interview above.
Not really since BOG happend differently in the manga and again Goku transformed into SSG again after his lost the transformation in the movie.

>>149331798
Are there even complete footage available of these dubs?

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>>149337440
jajajajjaa

>>149342511
>> Goku using SSG again, when Toriyama said otherwise
Toyo said he doesn't change any major points of Toriyama's script. So SSG returning is likely from Toriyama's script

Why is DBZ so much better than Super?

>>149337820
When will we get DBS tomes published in USA and EU ?

>>149329450
You know guys as much of Maifag that I am, we should remember Mai alone wouldn't be enough to repopulate the planet. Trunks's seed will go to all the young women in the world, and so begins a new age for the saiyan and human race

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>>149345269
> SS2-3

Fair enough. I suppose Goku is a gambler?

> He didn't gamble with SS Grade 3 didn't he?
Speed vs power consumption is very different

> Headcanon
Toriyama's statement isn't headcanon:

"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God."

Like I said, I wasn't confirming anything. Only using the info we have (Toriyama's statement) and basing my assumption on that.

> BoG re-telling (or RoF re-telling for that matter)
Not canon

>>149345666
> So SSG returning is likely from Toriyama's script

The same skeleton script is provided to both Toei and Toyo.

If a major point like that only exists in one of those mediums, it's likely that it wasn't on the script.

> Toyo said he doesn't change any major points of Toriyama's script.

Toriyama actually ENCOURAGES Toyo to include his own OC

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version

Interviewer:
> Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotaro-sensei?

Toriyama:
> I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

Interviewer:
> Between getting the outline and the final phase, what is the most difficult part of making the manga?

Toyotaro:
> Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see. I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!

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>>149345269
> BoG re-telling (or RoF re-telling for that matter)

Not canon. Toriyama bases the post-movie arcs as sequels to his movies, and not Toei's re-telling of them.

Toei's BoG
> Removed all of Toriyama's Kid Trunks x Mai content. The anime team was forced to pair them in the beginning of the current arc.

Toriyama's BoG
> Kid Trunks and Kid Mai have been seeing each other since BoG. Officially Bf/Gf since RoF at the latest.

Toei's RoF
> Gohan: "I'm going to continue training!"
> Vegeta receives "enhanced" armor from his wife. Discards it next arc like it's nothing
> SSB has no regenerative properties despite SSG having it in Toei's BoG arc.

Toriyama's RoF
> Gohan never said anything about continuing to train, which is consistent with how he behaves in the U6 Tourney and Zamasu arcs.
> Nothing is said about Vegeta's new armor, probably got it from Whis. Discarding it next arc makes more sense.
> SSB has no regenerative properties, which is consistent with his previous movie.

Toei's re-telling of Toriyama's own content should not and does not supercede Toriyama.

Everything in the re-tellings that are not in the original source (the movies) is technically filler.

This is the same logic we've been using for years: Content that's in an anime that is not from the source material is filler. Ginyu taking Tagoma's body in Toei's RoF is equilvalent to The Ginyu Force fighting in King Kai's place in Toei's Namek Saga.

>>149345668
It didnt jump the shark like Super.

>>149345668
No one's saying DBS is better than DBZ. People like compare it to the shittier GT.

Dragon Ball was always shit. Just enjoy it.

Considering this is kind of an all-purpose DB thread, post a character-concept you think could work in the show.

>new Saiyan in the group
>he's a completely standard middle-class Warrior with a low four-digit powerlevel
>sees everyone around him with blue fucking hair completely shitting on Saiyan Legend by surpassing them million-fold
>even the best Humans characters are arguable low-tier SS
>trains as hard as he possibly can
>never reaches SS because it's still an unrealistic expectation for the average Saiyan, the cast of the show are basically god-tier one-percenters
>avoids crazy Galactic warfare and screws street-level crime, like what Gohan did before he became a cuckold
>wears black and relies on intimidation
>BatSaiyan

>>149346175
>Fair enough. I suppose Goku is a gambler?

>Pure speculation and he had no reason to do so because he had better alternatives. He didn't gamble with SS Grade 3 did he?

>Speed vs power consumption is very different
They're both negatives you don't want to have in a fight, quit grasping at straws.

>Only using the info we have (Toriyama's statement) and basing my assumption on that.
Nothing there supports your assumption. Goku transformed into SSG again after he lost the transformation in the movie and no explanation was given.

>Not canon
Toriyama overlooks Toyotaro's storyboards and he didn't stop SSG from returning or Goku not absorbing SSG into his base mode. So it's canon deal with it.

>>149341267

This is exclusive to Getter-Mazinger threads. It's also the reason we banned Saint Seiya from /m/.

>>149345668
Both are shit anime. Read the manga faggot

>2016
>still no female super saiyans

>>149346526
> They're both negatives you don't want to have in a fight, quit grasping at straws.

Shit speed will not even allow you to hit your opponent. That was the whole issue with Ultra SS Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell.

Stop pretending speed vs power comsumption is equally bad. Losing power faster is nowhere near as bad.

> Goku transformed into SSG again after he lost the transformation in the movie and no explanation was given.
And then Toriyama made a comment if Goku would ever use it again. He said no.

> Toriyama overlooks Toyotaro's storyboards and he didn't stop SSG from returning

Because he encourages OC from Toyataro. It also wasn't in the anime, hence not in the shared skeleton scripts, hence not canon. Deal with it.

>>149346747
Because in DB they are either housewifes/future housewifes or they are dead

>>149342511
That pic is non canon, we know Black can't fight back against smoke

>>149347015
>Losing power faster is nowhere near as bad.
Sorry but what series are you even talking about?
Power comsumption is the reason Freeza lost against Goku twice and it almost made Goku lose against Kid Buu. So it is just as bad, deal with it.

>He said no.
Wrong again he didn't give a stright no and that still doesn't change.
>Goku transformed into SSG again after he lost the transformation in the movie and no explanation was given.

>Because he encourages OC from Toyataro.
So you admit it's Toriyama approved? Good, it's canon we all agreed.

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>people can't deal with both, anime and manga, having retcons

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>>149347325

Has SS Blue had a single good showing yet?

>>149342393
>Piccolo gets fucking rekt without even putting up a decent fight
>Hit is a chump who can't even keep up with SSB

nah, fuck off. Only thing toyotaro did better was the Botamo fight

>>149343440
I feel bad for Gotenks, his SSJ3 can't help anymore.

>>149347371
So Zamasu can withstand Goku directly blowing his head off but some generic yellow smoke caught him off guard?

Super is hot garbage.

>>149346175
Think about this. When did the major differences between manga and anime start? They started when the anime got ahead of the manga. Suddenly we had major differences. It's because Toei makes major changes to the script, while Toyo doesn't. It lines up with the interviews as well where he said he barely changes things

>>149348246
>>Piccolo gets fucking rekt without even putting up a decent fight
>>Hit is a chump who can't even keep up with SSB
Neither of this even happened. Piccolo was beating Frost just like the anime, which is why Frost cheated. Hit dodged a full power SSB Kamehameha in the manga.

>>149348353
>So Zamasu can withstand Goku directly blowing his head off but some generic yellow smoke caught him off guard?
He's only immortal, not totally invincible

>>149342511
>> Hit being unimpressive in the manga

Hit wasn't unimpressive. He pushed Goku into SSB, and a point was made that he was STILL holding back because of the rules of the tournament.
It's better than in the anime, where he was just "I'll push you into crazy new territories and LOLTIMESKIP out of it like a lazy LN protagonist"

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>>149348919
This, Manga Hit is way better.

>>149325915
Ningens will prevail

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>>149348353
>Super (Anime) is hot garbage.
ftfy faggot

>>149331645
That WOOOOOOOOO sounds pretty normal

>>149348366
> Think about this. When did the major differences between manga and anime start? They started when the anime got ahead of the manga

Well Re:BoG was pretty similar, but they both had the original movie to go by. I really doubt Toriyama provided a skeleton script for a movie he recently made.

Toyo skipped RoF. He only made a short promotional manga to promote the movie.

The changes started happening with the new content (Champa arc)

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Daily reminder that our Gohan will never be as badass as this

>>149349291
The major changes started happening with Hit vs Goku.

Piccolo vs Frost was a different fight but both had the same outcome. Frost cheats.
Vegeta vs Magetta manga version was just a more toned down and boring version of the anime fight

Goku vs Hit was the drastic change. And now the changes keep getting bigger

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>>149349300
N-n-no

I-i-i love Gohan

>>149349376
I do appreciate the changes go because it provides two different interesting takes on the same story

>>149349420

yeah Gohan was pathetic even at his strongest

dude just got pussified by Chichi way too much, Future Chichi never got the chance to infect Mirai Gohan as much

>>149349300
After all this time it still hurts.

Future Gohan is the true son of Goku.

hola amigos donde esta goku

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>>149347335
>Sorry but what series are you even talking about?
>Power comsumption is the reason Freeza lost against Goku twice

You're talking about extreme power consumption. Golden forme power loss =/= SS2 power loss. It's probably even worse than SS3

> Wrong again he didn't give a stright no and that still doesn't change.
Interviewer: "Will Goku transform into SSG again?"
Toriyama: "Goku already absorbed and made the SSG power his own. There's no need."

Basically saying it's conpletely pointless to do so.

> So you admit it's Toriyama approved? Good, it's canon we all agreed.
Just because he approved OC doesn't mean its canon.

He technically "approves" everything he supervises. So DBO, and by extension Xenoverse is canon by your definition.

>>149349300
Vegeta vs Magetta was very different in the anime and manga. In the manga it resembled a old Dragon Ball Tenkaichi Budokai fight, in the anime it was just spamming beam clashes because they couldn't choreograph a decent fight.

>>149349376
>Piccolo vs Frost was a different fight but both had the same outcome. Frost cheats.

Same can be said about Goku vs Hit. Hit wins

>>149349542
Meant to reply to >>149349376

>>149341219
>> Only 1 arc out the 4 is decent (The Baby Saga)
>literally liking the worst most boring arc
the super 17 saga was fucking awesome and watching all of the forgotten villains from the show come back exploded my fucking mind when I watched back when I was young.

>>149349550
Hit had different transformations and a different power set.

I can't say I'm really a fan of how Goku gave up against Hit in the manga, while I understand he was unsatisfied with the fact that Hit couldn't go all out, at least in the anime he had a reason to throw the fight (which is that is body couldn't handle the Kaiokek).

I prefer the manga in most cases for Universe 6, but that it particularly bothered me because Goku isn't really one to throw a fight.

And yes, I know Goku is retarded and thinks that Monaka will be able to win anyway

>>149349852
Kid Goku vs Freeza and Cell was so hype, until they actually fought...

I don't think there has been a more disappointing fight in all of DB

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>>149349506
>You're talking about extreme power consumption.
Quit reaching, you putting another word in front of it, isn't going to make it vastly different.

Power consumption is power consumption. Goku using SS2 vs Black which has power consumption after he previously used SS2 and SS3 vs Trunks doesn't make sense with Toriyama's statement.

>Basically saying it's conpletely pointless to do so.
Still isn't a stright no and that still doesn't change.
>Goku transformed into SSG again after he lost the transformation in the movie and no explanation was given.

>Just because he approved OC doesn't mean its canon.
Yeah it does, DBS is the official continuation of the original manga and is not comparable to video games where he doesn't work as closely as he does with the DBS manga, but nice try.

>>149349951
Goku vs Golden Freeza

>>149349949
>because Goku isn't really one to throw a fight.
Are you retarded?

>>149349951
When they fought and Goku absolutely wrecked them it was crazy, it was a reminder of how much stronger he has gotten since he beat them the first time. The only bad part in hell was the time-waste of Piccolo and the small Namekian trying to open hell for way too long, and when they succeeded and Piccolo got trapped there forever I thought it was the coolest shit ever. First time there has actually been consequences in dragon ball

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>>149349300
>Daily reminder that our Gohan will never be as badass as someone who died face down in a puddle.
Top kek

>>149350073
The main examples I can think of is where it's impossible to win (Cell) or when there's a bigger problem (wanting to fight Buu rather than continue fighting Vegeta)

Either way, Goku throwing the fight against Hit in the manga bothered me because he could have won, even fucking Vegeta could have

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>>149350062
Sure the re-telling sucked, but the movie version of the fight was awesome.

>>149350100
It wasn't how Goku easily obliterated them that was disappointing.

It was the actual fight. It was boring.

>>149350151
>Yes I am
Ok

>>149350207
FRIEZA FRIEZA FRIEZA

>>149350100
>Piccolo got trapped there forever I thought it was the coolest shit ever. First time there has actually been consequences in dragon ball

Why didn't they just wish him back with the Namekian DBs?

>>149350290
because of what happened in the next arc

>>149350312
Namekian DBs. Not the Earth ones.

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>>149350257
>No real argument
Take my (you)

>>149350413
Read the manga and watch BoG/RoF dumbass

>>149331171
It still has issues, but the balance is way better and there's a lot more shit to do. And you can't just go SS and spam ultimates like a skill-less scrub anymore.

>>149350207
I really want a Champa arc movie.

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>>149350413
T-torankusu.....

>>149350461
Just to be clear, I'm using throw in the sense of just giving up like he did against Cell

He didn't have a choice but to give up against Beerus
He jobbed against Sorbet because he lowered his guard
He had a choice against Hit in the manga

>>149350151
Not the other anon, but...

You're comment about Goku never throwing a fight was dumb (of course he has)

HOWEVER, you did make a good point on Hit. Hell, even Vegeta could've beaten Manga Hit. Goku shouldn't have had any issue winning.

The anime version of the outcome made more sense.

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>tfw DBS Future Trunks is a beast in xenoverse 2
I love landing his god kick ultimate in clutch moments.

>>149350372
Still, because they don't want to use the dragonballs because they know what happens when they overuse them. That was the whole point of the last saga, the understanding that the world needs to be protected without the dragonballs.

>>149350151
You missed the entire point of Goku quitting. He quit because it wasn't a fair fight. He was allowed to go all out, but Hit wasn't. He had to hold back. That's why Goku quit, because he felt it'd be cheating to continue fighting a handicapped opponent

Him seeing Hit dodge his max power Kamehameha and not even show fatigue doing it proved that he's much stronger than what he's allowed to show

>>149350567
A Dragonball movie based on Xenoverse wouldn't actually be a bad idea. Have a the MC be a new character who helps Trunk's and Loli Time Kai stop Towa and Mira from screwing up dragonball history.
Resurrection of F level of details.

>>149350563
Yeah, I see what you mean, I feel like I should have maybe made my original post more clear with what I meant

>>149350579
I mean, I guess...?

The Namekian DBs are more powerful, so it probably wouldn't have been an issue.

I wish they would've at least addressed it. Like "hey we can't wish back Piccolo because x".

But it's like they completely forgot about him, just like they did before they decided to kill him off.

>>149350670
It'd be a fun spinoff

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I would actually love to see an arc in DBS based on the Supreme Time Kai, Towa, Mira, and the Time Patrollers/Breakers.

>>149350207
I know people always bitch about Freeza looked like a chump in that movie, but I loved it

Freeza has never been someone Goku respected. He didn't have any sense of honor as a warrior, he was just a petty tyrant and basically acted like a space bully because he thought he had the biggest powerlevel around. Seeing him get knocked down a peg is always satisfying.

It's part of why I love Zamasu so much, Goku and Vegeta absolutely aren't buying any of his shit. Goku and Vegeta zoning out during his monologue and Zamasu getting backhanded by Goku was so damn satisfying.

>>149350933
If anything at least have Goku change into his Time Patroller getup.
He doesn't look half bad in it and after so long in the same orange martial arts Gi he could do with a new look (no the boots in ROF doesn't count)

>>149320633
Hey I made that thread, I didn't even intend for it to be a general, feels good man

>>149337820
drop it when he slice it on two, as the other anon said
joke.

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>>149349949
>but that it particularly bothered me because Goku isn't really one to throw a fight.
What?
Goku gave up when fighting Freeza on Namek until he used his Death Saucer.
Goku gave up against Cell
Goku didn't fight Majin Buu because he wanted the Earth to be safe without him protecting it.
Goku wanted Vegeta to have a chance to kill Kid Buu
Goku gave up against Beerus
When Freeza transformed into his Golden Form he offered to trade places with Vegeta

Hit wasn't able to fight at full capacity hence Goku gave up and this is the reason for BOTH the anime and manga. Since he values a fair fight against his opponent.
You clearly don't understand Goku's character.

>>149346626
It's a fucking action manga. It's better as an anime you outrageously retarded autist.

>>149327121
Arale is an invincible robot

Goku's power skill and invulnerability are not a passive super power, they are result of conscious will and slight effort.


Like Frieza. He's powerful and invulnerable and can tank a lot of shit because that's his base physical ability.

His energy attacks and physical strength and speed are all just him.
He has no techniques to increase his speed or tripple his base power level or energy attacks.
That is litterally all his power.

What the Z fighters all do is actually quite cool but we tend to forget that.

>>149329144
I wonder how much they pay him to tell them that?

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>>149351154
Fuck off retard, the anime sucks.

>>149351001
I liked him not being a threat in the movie for much more petty reasons: He's my least favorite villain.

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>>149351257
>t. autist who grew up watching DBZ on toonami who now hates the anime and is a manga purist because it makes him an enlightened euphoric fedora tipper

>>149351376
>t. autist who grew up watching DBZ on toonami
Wrong retard.

>>149344329
I think Gohan's Kai voice is better, but the old VA worked better for kid Goku.

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>>149350147
>face down in a puddle.
sorry retconned :^)

>>149350147

a warrior isn't judged by how he died, but how he lived

gohan is so shit he won't even get a physical body when he dies, he'll just be another floating yellow soul lol

>>149351688
>but how he lived

>Future Gohan couldn't protect shit

>Gohan defeated Cell and now he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.

Huh

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>>149351688
>a warrior isn't judged by how he died, but how he lived

Dead to Krillin's wife vs killer of Cell?

Is there some connection about Trunks and Broly I missed over the years
Especially in recent DBS episodes it seems like Trunks wants to be Broly so bad. With the whitened eyes, the hair when he transforms, and the whole anger thing

>>149351810

gohan only defeated cell because his daddy was literally in his mind instructing him like it was regular training

he almost fucked up because he became a retarded psychopath in his SSJ2 state

also no one gives a shit about gohan being a scholar, it's a fighting show, no fan who isn't autistic actually cares that gohan is attending regular conferences

Future Gohan died protecting the Earth, a true guardian. His death had meaning because it spurned Trunks to become an SSJ and later defeat the Androids.

Now Future Gohan is in heaven doing whatever the fuck he wants while Gohan won't even get a physical body when he dies, lmao.

>>149351899
Fuck off retard.

>>149351138
>Goku wanted Vegeta to have a chance to kill Kid Buu
No he didn't. That was Funimation making up lines.

>>149351810
>his dream job
you mean his mother's dream job for him?
Gohan never wanted to study

>>149351810
>now he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.
Good for Gohan.

>>149351932
That answer doesn't help at all!

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>>149351899
>DBS

>>149351914
>His death had meaning because it spurned Trunks to become an SSJ and later defeat the Androids.

Which didn't amount to anything since Trunks only gained the skills to beat the androids after going back in time thanks to his mom.

>>149351138
>Goku gave up when fighting Freeza on Namek until he used his Death Saucer.
Freeza was beaten
>Goku gave up against Cell
Brought this up >>149350151
>Goku didn't fight Majin Buu because he wanted the Earth to be safe without him protecting it.
Fair point
>Goku wanted Vegeta to have a chance to kill Kid Buu
But he didn't give up the fight overall
>Goku gave up against Beerus
It wasn't a battle he could win, like Cell
>When Freeza transformed into his Golden Form he offered to trade places with Vegeta
And when Vegeta said no, Goku didn't back down still

In a lot of instances Goku has some other thing that keeps him back from fighting an opponent, against Cell and Beerus it was just unwinnable, with Buu he knew he wouldn't be around so he had to test the younger generation (which is also really retarded), etc. With Hit in the anime while he wanted a fair fight, he at least had the Kaioken making him unable to sustain the fight any longer to justify him outting himself.

I could see an argument like "he thought Monaka could handle it since Goku had more power than Hit in the manga, so Goku would think Monaka would be capable of beating Hit", but I guess it just feels a bit too cheap to get Goku out of the fight.

Granted, this is a really minor complaint for something that doesn't really matter too much.

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just finished watching Super Android 13.

what a fucking boring movie.

at least it's got the dick punch

>>149320599
>Loving the hell out of it
Are you 15?

>>149352122
>Freeza was beaten
and so was Hit with his handicap.
>Brought this up
I think you quoted the wrong post
>It wasn't a battle he could win, like Cell
And? Still doesn't change the fact that your statement is stupid.
>And when Vegeta said no, Goku didn't back down still
See above. Hell this one is pretty much the same as the Hit one, Goku offered to trade places with Vegeta during the Freeza fight and Goku stood down to give Monaka a chance with Hit.

>In a lot of instances Goku has some other thing that keeps him back from fighting an opponent, against Cell and Beerus it was just unwinnable, with Buu he knew he wouldn't be around so he had to test the younger generation (which is also really retarded), etc.
Again, still doesn't change the fact that your statement is stupid.


>Hit wasn't able to fight at full capacity hence Goku gave up and this is the reason for BOTH the anime and manga. Since he values a fair fight against his opponent.
>You clearly don't understand Goku's character.

>>149352231

being an SSJ caused him to survive his early fights with the Androids you fucking retard

>>149350028
>Quit reaching

You're the one putting power consumption and extreme speed reduction from bulky mass muscles in the same category.

> Still isn't a stright no

He said there's no need, and it's conpletely pointless to do so. You're sounding desparate.

> DBS is the official continuation of the original manga and is not comparable to video games

I know that. I'm comparing only what Toriyama "approves" i.e. Toyble's OC, DBO, etc.

DBS's scripts are canon. Not the filler with it.

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>>149352384

This is for (you).

Don't forget to continue to monitor the Catelog at all times to make sure to call all DBS threads childish and Naruto thread OP's narutards.

Good luck!

>>149352669
>You're the one putting power consumption and extreme speed reduction from bulky mass muscles in the same category.

>They're both negatives you don't want to have in a fight, quit grasping at straws.

>He said there's no need
Yes need and that still doesn't change.
>Goku transformed into SSG again after he lost the transformation in the movie and no explanation was given.

>I know that.
Clearly you don't.

>DBS is the official continuation of the original manga and is not comparable to video games where he doesn't work as closely as he does with the DBS manga, but nice try.

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>>149351914
>His death had meaning because it spurned Trunks to become an SSJ

Do people actually unironically enjoy reading a boring ass manga over the anime? Fuck you guys

>>149352335
The scene where Goku kills him is possibly my favourite DB scene ever, though.
>that music
>SA13 just ruthlessly fucking every one of Goku's allies
>he absorbs a SB and becomes a smoldering miniature sun of Saiyan energy

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Also doesn't the Toei Kaioken and Super Saiyan overstresses Goku explanation contradiction the Cell saga training?

>>149352806
not canon anymore

>>149352768
You're just arguing in circles. Guess u gave up

>>149353125
Yes, I did. Sorry about that, you were right all along.

>>149352981
Man I just wanna fuck Vegeta's widows peak

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>>149353125
>no argument
I accept your concession.

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>>149353178
Ah I see. Okay

>>149352335
That makes me think. Imagine a Time Travel Cell saga, where an army of Cell's from alternative timelines where they defeated (what remained of the Z fighters) all home in on the main time line because they all want to fight Goku and Vegeta because 1) Supah Saiayin Gooddduh and 2) Goku and Vegeta were instrumental in the defeat of the original Cell.

>inb4 the leader of the Cell army is a Cell from a timeline where Cell absorbed Super Android 13

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When the fuck did I go from hate-watching this show to unironically enjoying it and being genuinely invested and hyped over what went on?

I think it all had to do with Black

Now if only Toyotaro knew how to draw a fucking sword.

>>149353400
When Zamasu turned out to be an actually interesting villain.
Also Mai a cute

>>149353479
>Zamasu turned out to be an actually interesting villain.
So never?

>>149353473
Maybe he should ask help from Kentaro Miura?

>>149353501
Gomi Ningen. Shine!

>>149353479

>Zamasu
>interesting villain.

DBS is fun, but lets not lie to ourselves here.

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>>149353400

I won't allow you to cause anymore harm to Earth, Zamasu.

>>149351899
Broly is 100% based on the first apperance of USSJ Trunks and to a lesser extent Gohan.

>>149353501
Sounds like something a fucking ningen would say

I wouldn't call Zamasu interesting but his "REE FUCKING NINGENS GET OFF MY UNIVERSE" shtick is endlessly entertaining

>>149353583
Better than all the other ones we've had, at least we saw his process of becoming evil instead of him just being a "must destroy everything for no reason" kind of villain who popped out of nowhere.

>>149353718
>Better than all the other ones we've had
Nope, still wrong. Muh Ningen doesn't make him better than shit.

>>149353718

Holy shit you're delusional. Frieza is 10 times the villain Shitmasu is. Calm down.

>instead of him just being a "must destroy everything for no reason" kind of villain who popped out of nowhere.

HAHAHA THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE IS

having some half-baked reason like hating mortals doesn't give him depth you retard

>>149353782
Frieza wants to take over everything without a half baked reason, so he's objectively worse.

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>Zamasu wants to kill all mortals AND kill all gods

What the hell is his endgame then? Is he just trying to create the perfect universe where neither he or his own clone will be virgins?

>>149353848
Freeza is a space Jew, Zamasu is just a regular omnicidal maniac.

>>149353848
>Frieza wants to take over everything without a half baked reason
Money dumbass

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>>149353848

Superfags confirmed for complete idiot level 1 readers.

Frieza has an entire empire to manage, and all the benefits that come with that. He fights with Goku had the tension of him losing everything, not simply his life. He had plenty of interesting subordinates that were a byproduct of him being an emperor.

Zamasu is just some buttmad faggot who can't handle a mortal being stronger than him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vPa6uuKz8w

>>149353866
Nigga, if that was true, if he had actually conquered the universe of Trunks timeline and had made millons of worlds his slaves/perfect beings/worshippers and black was only on the earth because his soldiers were defeated by trunks and the earth defense force(many of which are human and anthro beings who use tech and martial arts)?
I'd bust mulitple nuts.

The Z fighters would have had to go to his universe and help protect the planet and fight people, even bringing piccolo along so he could create Dragon Balls as instructed by the multiversal dragon to help rebuild and bring back the life lost on the planet or universe.

>>149353936
Whoa sorry, that really convinced me. Not like Zamasu was training to be Kaioshin where he had to watch an entire universe or something.

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>>149353866
A perfect universe, devoid of pain, chaos, fighting and suffering? Devoid of life?

>the crime is life, the punishment is death

>>149354010

oh right, he watched over da universe so his transcendent reasoning is too godly for mere mortals to understand

lmao fuck off

>>149353848
Galactic conquest that has spanned for eons, coming under attack from the weapon he once feared.
I like Zamasu but Frieza is probably the best built villain in the series. He's what triggered Dragonball's chain of events from square one.
Zamasu is a a very fun meme-factory but doesn't compare to Frieza.

>You will never be a GodTuber

>>149353936
Zamasu sees mortals as a destructive force that abuse the knowledge the gods have gave them

>>149353963
>posting youtubers

>>149354030
What does that even mean? I was using it as comparison to you saying Frieza having to manage an empire(Something that is considerably smaller than a Universe) makes him better.

>>149354061
>Galactic conquest that has spanned for eons, coming under attack from the weapon he once feared.
That is actually a pretty good reason forhim being better though, I'll give you that.

>>149354061
This is more or less what I wanted to say but couldn't find the words, thank you. I wanted to call Zamasu the best villain but then I remembered Frieza. His dynamic with Goku is great, especially when he gets revived and is almost inspired by Goku to train