Wow great english Umaru-chan. 100% perfect good job

What is Fred bought yesterday.

100% good job

>Why he went to bed early

>>149298388
>vlc

>>149298388
The worst part is that I feel like English Education is so bad in most schools in Japan, they would probably mark things like

"Whose is that umbrella?"
"What is Fred bought yesterday?"
"Why he went to be early?"
"When they went to Kyoto?"
as correct.

>>149298428
How the FUCK did you know?

and what media player should I be using? mpc, cccp?

>>149298412
obviously it was jeopardy question

>>149298433
>"Whose is that umbrella?"
This is correct though.

>>149298450
because it looks like shit
also it doesn't matter because you already have eye cancer

>>149298476
I think you're just a contrararian asshole because I compared the same frame side by side in both vlc and mpc and they're exactly the same

I have 20/20 vision, never needed glasses, not colorblind etc.

>>149298433
>"Whose is that umbrella?"
What's wrong with that?

>>149298473
Correct but not a sentence that most people would use in the first place

>>149298518
the fact that this question remains unanswered

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Wow love this show.

>>149298473
>>149298518
ESL? The standard way is to say "Whose umbrella is that"

>>149298509
>I compared the same frame side by side in both vlc and mpc and they're exactly the same
So you have eye cancer then

>>149298710
no

explain why they are different or close the tab

>>149298475
kek

>>149298475
I wish english exams in my country would have stories about salarymen going to fuck a whore in Roppongi. Is that edited?

>>149298475
>But he was caught _____ new-half.
I'm honestly at a loss as to what word is supposed to go there. With maybe?

>>149298450
Because you left the bar up when you took your screenshot. Nerd.

Also VLC defaults to .png for its screenshots. Wholly unnecessary

>>149298529
This is a bit of a generalization, but Asian countries teaching English tend to focus more on grammar than other things. Like, how the language is actually used.

>>149298909
>.png is unnecessary

fucking pleb

>>149298992
For the image quality you're getting in the kinds of video files we generally use, yes, it is unnecessary.

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>>149298992
>Implying otherwise

>>149298809
>dicking

>>149298992
>.png autist

You fags still exist?

>>149298433
"When they went to Kyoto?" can work depending on context, like as an unsure response.
Probably not 100% proper English though, something more like "Do you mean when they went to Kyoto?" would likely be more correct, but in common conversation shortening it like that might happen and probably not be noticed.

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>>149298475
>Ikuhara worked for Sailor Moon
>gets caught soliciting sexual favors from a trap in that passage
Hmm.

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>>149299119
You're right, this is better.

>>149300981
>13kb
>I will compress it to the utmost limit, that will definitely prove me right

Kill yourself. No, really.

>>149301377
It should look better, but the rotational velocidensity of my drive, took some detail with it. 10k rpm drives are hard to deal with.

>>149298388
>vlc
disgusting

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>>149298653
>>149298529
>"Whose is that umbrella?"
ESLfag here, and yeah I was taught like that. Welp.

>>149301495
You can get away with saying it that way. What grammar nazis fail to mention in that English is quite flexible when it comes to sentence structure.
Further, Americans talking about written or even spoken English is the height of hilarity.

>>149301590
>English is quite flexible
>yeah but that English them there Americans use and talk about, hilarious!

>>149301893
These are not mutually exclusive, regardless of what you may think.

>>149301918
I'd love to hear why you think American English is so bad.

>>149301893
t. Amerilard

>>149302010
For starters I was talking about flexibility in sentence structuring, not the misuse and misspelling of several words for no apparent reason. Not the addition of superfluous words to standard speech, for no apparent reason.
It's flexible yeah, it is the international standard in language. It excels in subsuming other terminology as well but man oh man, that doesn't mean you should just make shit up as you go along.

>>149302010
No need to be so offended ameriboy. American English just sounds slurred compared to civilized variants.

>>149298475
>that handwriting
I can't learn Japanese.

>>149302092
>complains about the addition to superfluous words to speech, repeats the same line twice

Nice there britbong.

And I think linguists would like to have a word with you about "misspellings and misuse". We're not the fucking French; there's no authoritative body that defines what is right or wrong.

>>149301377
>>149300981
>>149301473
>>149298428
>>149298450
>>149298476
>>149298509

No offense but you guys are stupid. You can adjust your settings in VLC to improve quality.

There is a website where you can compare quality in separate pictures featuring the same scene from an anime title.

Once you learn how to adjust the settings on VLC it is far superior than anything else available. The thing is that none of you, a majority of /a/ doesn't know how to do it. It's much easier just to hop on the bandwagon and hate it. In short, just google. Not spoon feeding you(s).

>>149302097
Civilized meaning British? You know British English is all just fads and trendiness right? Brits are constantly trying to one up each other with how special they are, so they even have bastardized their own language to that end.

American English is actually a far more traditional form of English and closer to how it was spoken in antiquity by British immigrants.

>>149302146

I forgot to add that the VLC quality adjusted looks much much better in comparisons. During the side by side comparison to mpc.

>>149302146
Vlc can never look as good as mpc with madvr, even though it runs as heavy as it

>>149302142
Not a brit but what I did was repetition of a structure. Both of those similar sentences were valid and appropriate in terms of content. It must be hard for you, my friend. I know you're trying.

>>149302010
>>149302142
>>149302164
Fatboy is triggered

>>149302221
>triggered
You need to go back.

That's your opinion and that's fine. However, statiscally speaking VLC is much better for rendering 4K. Truthfully speaking, both players are great and you're free to use whatever you want. Just don't hop on a bandwagon without knowing the facts.

https://www.wondershare.com/vlc/mpc-vs-vlc-media-player.html

>>149298388
what a waste of ink. just mark the incorrect ones you dumdum.

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>>149300981

>people don't know how about mpv

VLC is to Windows 98
as MPC-HC is to Windows XP
as mpv is to Windows 10

>>149302146

you mean this right?

http://screenshotcomparison.com/

>>149302350
You need to _______lose weight

>>149301495
It works that way, but it's a matter of style preference.
"Whose is" just sounds awkward to say, and you're generally encouraged to avoid awkward-sounding but technically correct in english since it's very easy to make it an ugly language without breaking any rules.

>>149298653
>Americans in charge of knowing their native language
It's an unusual way of saying it, but correct.

>>149298426
That can be said though.

>>149301495
>>149302590
Wait what the fuck how is that correct?

>Whose is that umbrella?
Kinda sounds like the umbrella is the owner of the person in question.

That sentence kinda makes my head hurt desu.
>Whose is
>that umbrella

What the fuck am I having a stroke? I genuinely am mindfucked right now.

Summoning Umaru abusers.

>>149302655
Cried tears of freedom and clapped at this post.

>>149302655
There's an implied article in that question.

If you were to write it out fully, it would be something like "Whose possession is that umbrella?"

Since an umbrella can only be a possession, it's self-evident and doesn't need to be qualified directly.

Modern english is full of things like that. It mainly just sounds weird in this case because the possessive and the thing being possessed are on opposite ends of the sentence.

>>149302731
>>149302770

Shouldn't it just be "Whose umbrella is that?"

Man, fuck English.

>>149302801
That's also correct.
Both are correct, one just sounds good while the other sounds like shit.

>>149302801
Both are correct. "Whose umbrella is that?" will sound more natural, but "Whose is that umbrella?" is fine too.

>>149302801
Both are fine.

>>149302931
Maybe Fred is the name of a product she bought yesterday, and she's asking a metaphysical question about its nature.

>>149302962
That would still be wrong.

>>149302962
Or maybe Fred Bought Yesterday is the name of a movie and she's answering a question on Jeopardy

>>149303081
Why?

I want to teach young, impressionable nips the glorious standard of languages someday. Plant the seed of mutiny against the Japanese language and slowly convert everyone to the World's Best Language.

>>149303116
You mean German?

>>149303102
It's missing an article. In this case, it would probably be "that."

>>149303159
Not if the question is about Fred bought yesterday in general, not about the particular Fred she bought.

>>149302636
It can be said maybe as a sentence fragment or a subordinate clause. It shouldn't be used as a question.

>>149298426
The correct form is:

>Why did he go to bed early?

right?

>>149298518
This makes it sound like the umbrella is possessive.

>>149302482
so MPC-HC is the best but mpv is more compatible with shit?

>>149302636
Only if you're a dirty ESL.

>>149303210
It would work if Fred is plural. That would be weird though.

>>149303343
mpv is the player of apple shills

>>149302931
It's a philosophical musing.
What is Fred, bought yesterday? A solid investment for the future or a quick transaction soon forgotten? And if a man can so easily be made a commodity in this world then by what value are we bartered? In this world of stones and feathers may the fruits of our labour do anything but turn to hard metallic coins that grate along our teeth as we chem them greedily, all other worldly sustenance refused us.

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You make fun of Nips for not being bilingual, but most of you fuckers don't speak two languages either. In reality you are probably dumber than the average Japanese high school student.

>>149303580
We're all ESL here.

>>149303580
who /115+/ here?

>>149303580
I can speak 4 and a half languages.

>>149302636
Not as a stand alone question it can't. The word "why" is an adverb (in this context), it needs to modify a sentence that would be a question if it weren't there. The correct form would be "Why did he go to bed early?"

>>149303580
ばかがいじん

>>149303661
Sick hiragana bro.

>>149303580
English is easy to learn and is the most useful language to learn. The same cannot be said of Japanese.

English is fucking retarded anyway. Like what's the point of "have" and "has"? It literally might as well be the same shit. Stop needlessly complicating things, murryclaps.

>>149303678
ほんとうにありがとうございますアノニイちゃん

>>149303692
>the most useful language to learn
That would be Spanish or Chinese.

>>149298518
It should be "Whose umbrella is that?"

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>>149303580
English is my first language and Mandarin Chinese is my second language. We're all taught to be bilingual in both English and our mother tongue from young, so both are my native languages.

>>149303736
English is the best language the world has to offer. It is complicated by virtue of having to accommodate all the little languages it swallows as it grows.

>>149303736
i think that it helps to differentiate the subject that you're talking about.
but i learned english in 4chan so i'm probably wrong.

>>149298473
>>149298518
"Whose is correct. I'm a bit iffy on the sentence structure itself by putting the subject (Umbrella) at the end.

A less awkward way to say it would be "Whose umbrella is that".

This many English speakers and they can't just
>Whose (umbrella) is that umbrella?

>>149298388
>Why he went to bed early?
>Why they go to Kyoto?
Though this isn't correct grammar in standard English, this is wholly understandable vernacular American English, especially here in the South.
>These grammatical features are characteristic of both older Southern American English and newer Southern American English.
>...[Uses] of the past participle in place of the past simple, such as seen replacing saw as past simple form of see.
>I seen her first.
Thanks, Wikipedia.

Obviously not what they were going for in the OP pic, but just a nice factoid.

>>149303580
>learning secondary languages you will never get any use out of when you already speak the world's defacto trade language

Waste of time. Being smart isn't about how much you know, it's what you do with it. Why waste the effort learning something utterly useless, to converse with low-born swine?

>>149298388
>What is Fred bought yesterday?
>Whose is that umbrella?
>Why he went to bed early?
>When they went to Kyoto?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Thank fuck I'm not even an English native speaker so I get all the privilege to laugh at linguistic atrocities such as this.

>>149303580
Nigger are you serious? 4chan is international as fuck, there's probably more people here with English as their second language than their first.

>>149303839
"Who umbrella dat?"

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>>149303736
>murryclaps

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>>149302107

>>149303896
i are the niggerest

>>149303692
English is most definitely not easy to learn. The only people who think this are native speakers that bever had to formally learn it, and cocky ESLs who think that posting frogs and greentext qualify as having learned the language.

English is a hybrid language with disparate linguistic roots, which means redundant vocabulary (as well as one of the largest combined vocabularies of any language) and two sets of every rule.

The relatively simple alphabet is deceptive, especially because it functions differently depending on whether its being used for a romantic word, germanic word, or any number of linguistically disparate circumlocution.

>>149303869
You're on /a/ and can't see what use you would get out of knowing Japanese, you fucking retard.

>>149303824
As long as you're acknowledging that it serves a point you're at least more insightful than he is.
English might be complicated but every little semantic twist is like linguistic spice. It makes the language all that more interesting, to hear, speak and to write. Simple languages will never touch our lofty heights.

That said, the coolest language is one of the native american Indian languages. They have one with a structure so alien that it eschews the (otherwise) global human patterns of language production.

>>149303891
t. Spic

>>149303938
Stupid nips subtitle the shit I want to watch, anyway. Because they know their place on the totem-pole beneath me.
There's no reason to lower myself.

>>149303862
It's ebonics, my dude. Remember that it's a real and official way of speaking. Stop being culturally insensitive.

>>>>149303896
>not knowing you can redact nouns
>not knowing you can't redact verbs

Does "whose is that" sound correct to you
Does "whose that" sound correct to you

>>149303891
No. Sorry Euro friend.

>>149303909
I am ruined. The moment I saw a blue book with a stripe in the thumnail I expected the coding textbook.

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>>149303869
>>149303975
Take notes /a/
This is a good white boy

>>149303983
>Does "whose that" sound correct to you
>"Who dat"
ya

>>149303979
>Southern American English is the same as African American Vernacular English
No. Believe it or not, there are loads of white people here in the south, and they talk funny, too.

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>>149298475
There is nothing wrong to pick a husky girl after a hard daywork.

>>149304016
coding is for traps, thats smug japan girl

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>>149303580

>/a/ - English & Media Players

>>149304139
>coding is for traps
Then things have changed. Fucking trap fags.

>>149303298
>Why he bed early?
Short and efficient

>>149301918
The English spelled pneumonia with a p. They are clearly retarded and cannot be trusted in deciding how the English language should be spoken.

>>149304258
>Why bed early?
Is better since the subject can probably be inferred from context.

>>149304288
Let me ask a question.

Do you believe bete should be spelt bait nua?

Nips don't care about english, why would they bother learning it correctly

>>149302146
Where is the evidence

>>149304461
They care a lot. If you have a pen most of them can understand you at a basic level. It's actually really great. The ones that bother to get fluent are often very fun and laid back too. Perhaps they're too friendly with foreigners?

>>149303942
>>149304016
He's right you know, considering half the people in the US don't even speak English as their first language.

>>149304386
Let me ask you a question.

What is gained by spelling words differently than how they sound?

>>149304601
The US is an embarrassment. Worst world power ever 2bh. I'd rather Russia or the imminent European superstate (were it not so Orwellian).

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>>149304579
Ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｐｅｎ．

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>>149298433
As someone who went through English classes in a different country, I can tell you and they'll teach you the proper way to write and speak which In turn it makes you sound like a total tool

>>149304641
History, culture and tradition.

>>149303580
I speak 2, nothing special really. If anything it comes in handy when trying to find subs that are no longer available in English

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>139 posts
>no CHARs

>>149304579
>Perhaps they're too friendly with foreigners?
Search gaijin hunter.

>>149304764
French?

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>>149304108
>tfw no chapter 2

>>149304713
Those are really stupid reasons to keep your system of communication inefficient. There is a reason Koreans ditched the Chinese alphabet and had a mathematician create what is considered the most streamlined alphabet in the history of the written language.

History of language should be preserved but forcing archaic language rules that don't make any modern sense on people is stupid. These hold over misnomers from the past should be improved to make things more efficient, there is a reason why there are different periods of English and why they aren't still spoken today.

>>149304883
I'd rather not thanks.

If a new language has to be made for the purpose of efficiency, I'd rather it come as a secondary professional language, like Latin to science.
English has to retain prominence. History, culture and tradition are being phased out and diminished too flagrantly.

>>149303941
>That said, the coolest language is one of the native american Indian languages. They have one with a structure so alien that it eschews the (otherwise) global human patterns of language production.

name?

>>149304883
Efficiency obviously isn't the only consideration.

MOUTH TO MOUTH

>>149305203
MOUSE TO MOUSE?

>>149305019
I'm not saying a new language in saying allowing things like spelling and proper metamorphosis of the lexicon to be allowed to meet the times. I don't think literally shouldn't mean literally, but overly strict adhesion to archaic spelling rules is stupid. There is a reason there are different periods of English and Elizabethan and Victorian English sound incredibly different, language evolves and we shouldn't try and hold onto things that have no real merit other than "tradition".

>>149305234
I'd prefer we did, to an extent. If you want to modernise past what occurs naturally, the hiring of linguists and the refurbishing of alphabets for example, then just make a new language and have it partner with traditional English.

>>149305230
DEATHO?

>>149302655
It hurts because you can't find anything wrong with it even though it's incorrect.

Sasuga English.

>>149305168
We were able to confound the axis in wwii as a result of sending our messages in Navajo, so even if they broke the code they'd be fucked.

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>>149298388
>mary doesn't speak Japanese
Fuck you

>>149305336
>I'd prefer we did, to an extent.
I agree with you, but that is why I also think the English mentality of not changing anything of the past anymore is stupid. This idea that the British are masters of the English language is stupid, particularly since what's mostly taught in other countries is indeed American English. Not to mention that the amount of extremely diverse dialects and how radically different each speaks English inside the UK is ludicrous. If you consider any one dialect in the UK "proper English" then that means the majority of their population doesn't speak"proper English".

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>>149305460
this sounds pretty satisfying

>>149305459
You've fallen into our trap. English is rarely wrong. Just various levels of right.

>>149305517
>american in charge of english
I'd rather hear a Canadian's opinion, even a South African. Americans are bottom of the pile when it comes to English speaking countries.

Further, deviations from proper English are just that, defined by their differences. Dialects are perfectly fine as long as they don't pretend to be some sort of standard above or in league with proper, well spoken English. That's why Americans are a joke. They don't even know what they get wrong. Even southerners and black americans understand their respective drawl and ebonics aren't 'proper'. That my friend is the distinction. Not global use but centralised standards.

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>>149303580
>tfw to intelligent to speak a second language

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>>149303580
I speak 3 chinkneses dialects and sing the CPC national song every morning... globalist scum!

>>149303736
What's the point of having sans samas and oniichans anyway? We're all sexual human beings anyway.

>>149306075
This. Fuck utalitarians. Truest turbo-autist ideology out.

>>149303580
>impliziere wir sind here alles Amerikaner
>impliziere ich spreche nicht besseres Englisch als 99% der Japsen

>>149298412
Explain me why that isn't correct while "What did Fred buy" is despite them being basically the same

>>149306146

I almost understood most of that from one year of high school German

Truly I am a great scholar

>>149306353
You wasted your time in school ESL-kun, I'm sorry.

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>>149303752
>learning chinese

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>>149306407
You truly are a great scholar.

Now go to facebook and call out those dumb assholes who are not as intellectually superior scholars as you.

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Lel @ japs

English is really the easier to learn, and but they still had trouvle at it , I once one to the English in the class when, and already I capable of reading and updating myself constanyly fur supeeior to this guys. How bad how is his learning system of Japs?

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>>149303930
What? English is piss easy if your native language is either latin or germanic, as it shares a lot with both.

The entire internet is in English, so you just need a computer to immerse into it. I've never taken an English class, yet I'm good enough to work as a freelance academic paper translator.

The only people that legitimately say that English is difficult are prideful, monolingual anglos.

Whom does this umbrella belong to?

>>149306610

Is being piebald even a matter of degrees?

>>149302092
Fuck off you filthy redcoat. Sorry your language is archaic and dead, much like your "empire". Hope you choke on the queen's dick faggot

>>149306975

But that's wrong you fucking retard

>>149306822
Is your r correct in higher?
Keats asserts it rhymes Thalia.
Hugh, but hug, and hood, but hoot,
Buoyant, minute, but minute.

Say abscission with precision,
Now: position and transition;
Would it tally with my rhyme
If I mentioned paradigm?

Twopence, threepence, tease are easy,
But cease, crease, grease and greasy?
Cornice, nice, valise, revise,
Rabies, but lullabies.

Of such puzzling words as nauseous,
Rhyming well with cautious, tortious,
You'll envelop lists, I hope,
In a linen envelope.

Would you like some more? You'll have it!
Affidavit, David, davit.
To abjure, to perjure. Sheik
Does not sound like Czech but ache.

etc.

>>149306975
Only correct if you say "To whom" at the beginning, and perhaps drop the final "to". Still weird though.

>>149303792
Just like the country.

>>149303930
>English is a hybrid language
never take a ling course please

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>>149298475
Poor Anno. NTR'd by a dickgirl.

>>149306468
That means you shouldn't learn russian either. Learn Singaporeanese and be MULTIKULTURE! Islam is great!

Lmaoing my ass off at all these ESL's and stuck up Brits trying to define my language, and poorly at that

>>149306988
>you filthy redcoat.
Spot the mexican pretending to be white ameri-can't.

>>149307341
>TFW learned English at age 6 or so, within a year at that.
>Indistinguishable from native speakers
>TFW trilingual too, and learning Jap

I seriously don't get why all these spics, chinks and niggers can't get it down even after years of study and practice.

>>149307341
>Brits trying to define my language, and poorly at that

Is there a scholarship for Americunt Language Studies in mexican college?

>>149307459
>chinks
Why should I? Nips should stop stealing my Kanji.

>>149303580
Jokes on you. My home language is Zulu. I also understand the other Nguni languages since they're so similar. I know a little Afrikaans too.

>>149307484
Prescriptivist, die

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>>149306468
I really hope that story about the Swedish guy isn't true.

>>149307395
>if you hate the filthy brits you're a filthy mexican

Bongs confirmed for retarded. You cunts know nobody likes you right?

>>149307166
Well said, friend.

>all these wikipedia wannabe linguists who think they're hot shit because they read Language Log

I bet you losers hate generative grammar because it's propounded by the Big Bad Gnome

>>149307528
Nah. Just an ESL who felt like poking fun at ya

>>149302623
>>Americans in charge of knowing their native language
>It's an unusual way of saying it, but correct.

The correct UK version:

"Ay ya cunt whos' whippy water roof iz-its?"

>>149307008
No it isn't you fucking mong.

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>>149303930

>MFW English spelling of gaelic words

What the fuck is any of this

>>149307670
oh man, does someone have the list?

>>149307688

Yes it is you fucking cock gobbler

who talks shit about english or brags about their fluency anymore? all that was already played out in the early 00s.

>>149303930
i'm learning english and i can perfectly communicate with people in internet, but listening all kind of accents is a fucking pain in the balls.

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>>149307738

>>149307709
Blame the scribes and orthographers who thought following the ri leathann rule justified producing excrescent monstrosities of words, instead of just inventing new graphemes for palatalized sounds like the Slavs did.

>>149307865
>rooty tooty point-n-shooty
every time, it fucking hurts
thank you.

>>149307865
I want to give a British slut my nutty-gum.

Let us stop arguing and instead celebrate the beauty of this language
Cool loanword: smorgasbord

>>149308134
patata

>>149308134
hapax legomenon

>>149308134
Pineapple

>>149308173
>american "loanwords" are just Spanish ones creeping into their language

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>>149308134
DEJA VU

>>149308253
forgot ur acute and grave accents buddy

>>149308245
I found savvy to be a nice addiction though

>>149308375
That's french though

>>149308317
They're not on the French keyboard for capital letters. It's some weird Alt+xxx I can't be arsed to remember.
>>149308425
It isn't

>>149308467
I thought it came from "savoir faire". Though there's a fine line between latin languages when you start looking up etymology, since they're all much alike.

>>149308615
i don't think that's terrible likely since i pronounce it with a geminate v, not something very common in romance languages
dunno about your idiolect though

>>149308615
>1785, as a noun, “practical sense, intelligence”; also a verb, “to know, to understand”; West Indies pidgin borrowing of French savez(-vous) ‎(“do you know”) or Spanish sabe (usted) ‎(“you know”), both from Vulgar Latin *sapere, from Latin sapere ‎(“be wise, be knowing”) (see sapient). The adjective is first recorded 1905, from the noun.
My bad indeed there would be traces of French in that. Should have googled before claiming the opposite.

I love when /a/ goes off topic. This thread was the best casual conversation i ever had about languages, i would not be able to have a discussion like this anywhere else i know.

>>149308799
same here.

>>149308769
Faggot.

>>149308736
*terribly w/e
>>149308799
read books about historical linguistics pal
diachronical ling is way more fun than just describing shit as is

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>>149308799
It's a well known fact off topic discussions are the best discussion.
>>149308851
Cunt. I'll find you and rip across 3 meters of fat to gut you gigantic lardon.

>>149308900
>It's a well known fact off topic discussions are the best discussion.
Only /v/ermins actually believe this.

Do surnames play a role in languages?
here the spic people has the same surnames but in different languages.

>>149308799
You should have been here before 2008, these days rulefags will have a conniption fit over literally anything, although in some ways it's become a necessary evil to keep us from slipping into /tv/ or /pol/ tier posting.

>>149308949
Well they're words and people use them in their speech? I'm not sure what you're asking

>>149308949
Most european names and surnames have direct translations between eachother

>>149309053
Between their respective languages, I meant.

>>149308943

No, it's longstanding truth

English is an awful language, who cares.

>>149309144
Says the person who is so new they can't even speak proper English

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>>149309053
>>149309097
Peter, Pierre, Pedro, Pietro, Piotr, Petr,Петар etc...
Is that what you mean ? What the heck are you trying to say

>>149309144
Only newfags who showed up in 2008 who think they're oldfags now believe this.

>>149309169
>he says preferring a language doomed to die

>>149309169

English is probably the #1 gretaest language in the world for poetry and creative writing, prove me wrong

>>149309225
>>149309203

If we want to start measuring our oldfag dicks I've been here since 2005

It's true on every board except small, slow boards. Deal with it.

Used to be universal that late night discussion was god-tier too, but that's not true anymore

Also longstanding is a word if that's what you mean, fuckin' google it.

>>149309230
French, Spanish, and Italian exist, what an awful statement to make.

>>149309227
Maybe not so, Japanese and Russian are being taught more and more in foreign countries, so saying they're doomed to die is quite dumb.

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>>149308949
Welp, it's your surname, of course it's a role, but i think you're referring to translated names like "Miguel -> Michael"

>>149309230
Learn italian or spanish, that will prove your point, at least, for poetry and creativity.

>>149309325
>he doesn't even know what was wrong with his grammar

>>149309230
That's not how it works, you make a statement, you prove it's true.

And before that, answer truthfully how many languages do you know to feel confident in making that statement?

>>149309230
Can't write japanese poems with that
ぼくはオピ
ペニスすきです
ファゴトです
Here. I called it "What's in your mind"
>>149309379
While it's debatable that English is the best, it's definitely one of the top tier language for literature and poems

>>149309379
Jap is a dead language. Russkies maybe not. The main three are chink, rusky and English. They are the only ones that matter.

>>149303752
>learning Spanish
>instead of lingua franca
No.
>>149303930
>English is most definitely not easy to learn.
You are probably just dumb.
t. have English as a second language

>>149309464
lad once china falls apart and we get a bunch of techno-warlords beijing mandarin isn't gonna be worth shit
learn wenzhounese nigga

>>149309464
y. commie living in China

>>149309500
>t. have English as a second language
Then you don't speak english. You speak that bastardized version of english that's taught around the world, with terrible pronunciation and the vocabulary of a 11yo native.

>>149309441
>That's not how it works, you make a statement, you prove it's true.
Proofs pls.

>>149309533
Apologise for war crimes.

>>149309464
Japanese matters if you watch fucking anime like anyone here retard

>>149309445
>it's definitely one of the top tier language for literature and poems
But that's because of the sheer amount and disponibility of English artworks.

Serbo/Croatian master race.

>>149309596
>watching Chinese cartoons means a language isn't dead
Come now.

>>149303930
Germany reporting in, learning English is hardly difficult. Did C2 without ever studying for English, that equals "Mastery or proficiency".

If you honestly believe English is hard to learn you either want to feel better about yourself having had trouble learning it or honestly believe that.

Also
> hybrid language with disparate linguistic roots, which means redundant vocabulary
Fuck off, if you can't explain stuff without sounding like you got a stick up your ass you shouldn't try explaining it at all.

>>149309633
rokni se moj bajo

>>149309416

Nothing except lack of punctuation at the end.

U b8n' me, son????

>>149309668
It means it's relevant and useful to you, that's all that matters

>>149309674
Neka sine, ima fore.

>>149309558
>bastardized version of english
Yes, the american-english

>>149309684
You forgot your article between "It's" and "longstanding truth"

It should be "It's the longstanding truth", or "It's a longstanding truth"

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>>149309727
Too fucking true.

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>>149298475
>so he applied for comfort to any tender girl

>not writing as you speak and speaking as it is written

English is a retarded language.

>>149309225
Is this a joke? Pre-2008 4chan was almost never on topic. 2008 is right around when serious discussion started getting forced.

>>149309759
Truth can be used as a mass noun.

>>149307513
Nigger.

>>149303580
But english is my second language anon

>>149309873
>his language doesn't come in many forms
This is what I am talking about. Simple languages just cannot keep up.

>>149303930
English is stupid easy to learn.

I'm literally retarded and learned it by myself

>>149307513
cool

>>149309956
There are many dialects of Serbian, we even have two alphabets, tell me more about many forms.

>>149303580
I speak two languages. Technically three.

>>149303308
Yandere umbrella?

>>149309759

An article is not necessary in that sentence, and it would slightly change the meaning. I use "truth" like "canon" or "scripture" here.

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>>149309992
>he needs two alphabets

>>149310099
We have the luxury of two alphabets.

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>>149310113
>Having socialized alphabet
Enjoy your taxes.
We have a free alphabet, bound by the rules of Free market. This is the reason why I have disposable letters at the end of the month.

>>149310113
Not unlike the luxury of vestigial digits, hm?

>>149310208
I know you Americans thrive on dumbing down your world, two party state, one alphabet and language, you have mastered the art of simplicity.

>>149310329
I am not American. On the simplification of politics at least, we agree.

>All the American hate in this thread
Why?

>>149306353
"is" is present tense, while this is a past tense sentence ("yesterday").

>What is Fred buying today?
>What did Fred buy yesterday?

>>149310747

Just standard /a/ contrarianism.

>>149298450
mpv

>>149310747
I once went to Europe and all the other tourists I was with were the worst most obnoxious and rude people I've ever met so it doesn't really surprise me.

>>149310747
You talk wrong. That isn't hate unless you disagree so vehemently that all other opinions about you cease to matter.
You have flaws, who would have thought.

Why do ESLs trigger anons so much? I'm a born english speaker but I don't see why it's a big deal. As long as you still understand what they're trying to say, why would it matter?

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>>149310747
Decades of envy from being sidelined, along with state run media frequently using the US as a convenient distraction from their own domestic issues.

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>>149311121
>tfw american and say autumn more often than fall

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>>149311092
It's a mix of being easily identifiable, recent notorious shitposters and a pinch of envy and projection.

>>149311264
That's artificial americans

Real Americans would never say autumn.

>>149311401
Guess I need to rethink my life as an android.

>>149302801
>>149303308
>>149303755
>>149303831
>>149305459
>>149306975
>Native speakers

>>149307198
...But they're right, at least in terms of vocabulary.

>>149311092
Because pre-2009 everyone on this site used capital letters, proper punctuation and acceptable grammer and whenever you fucked any one of those up you'd just get bombarded with greentext no matter how good your post was unless it was copypasta material. I blame "u mad" shit.

>>149310329
That's the future. Humans have spent thousands of years weaponizing laziness, everyone else is just behind the Americans.

>>149312363
>Because pre-2009 everyone on this site used capital letters, proper punctuation and acceptable grammer
But why you lie tho?

>lol "grammer"

I'm angry.
Very angry.
For the few past months every fucking time I make a small grammatical error in my posts there are two or three fucking autists calling me out an ESL monkey out of the Amazon, yet in this very threads there are retards with far worse English than me and no one is calling them out.
FUCK YOU.

>>149311092
ESL's who have been here longer will know better English, thus if their English is that bad that they get called out on it, it means they're newfags

>>149312284
If you picked up a dictionary with a million words and one with 500,000, you'd find that the vocabulary represented by the first one is approximately 50% less Anglo-Saxon. Does this mean anyone would notice a difference between the two dictionaries without extensively consulting both? Almost every single function word in English is of Germanic origin, its syntax is Germanic as can-be barring the lack of unmarked V2 word order, and it has one of the most conservative phonologies of all Germanic languages. If you went by vocabulary alone, then you'd have to call many more languages hybrid ones too: Only around 30% of the attested Ancient Greek lexicon is of IE origin, and indeed there is consensus on an IE etymology for only a single theonym: Zeus. The situation is parallel to that of English concerning function words, morphology, phonology and even syntax inasmuch as it's possible to actually reconstruct syntax for a proto-language.

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>>149312522
Becase, this threde is contaminant threde. Its only normel.

>>149312522
Who cares what a bunch of semi-literate retards think?

English, hell language, is whatever you make it. As long as someone can understand you, then you're doing it right. That's why languages change.

>>149312651
You know damn well we've borrowed a good deal from Norman French and Vulgar Latin, and that's without getting into the recent developments of the Enlightenment and colonization overseas.

I'm not saying it's not a Germanic language, just that it's a lot less linguistically pure than some of its contemporaries.

Language is a meme, shut up about it

>>149313048

You're a meme.

>>149312689
Because there are standards to adhere to, if everyone though like you, you wouldn't have an avenue to spew your drivel.

>>149311589
Synthetic-American. Get that hyphen in there so we know how to treat you.

>>149303580
who /English+Spanish/ master race here?

I also know some russian due to my autistic fascination with the language in middle school

dota helped a lot

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>>149298475
"he was tired after a big work"

>>149312923
English did not do much borrowing from Vulgar Latin, because when the Saxons sailed in what little Latin there was in Britain, a fringe province of the empire, was quickly evaporating. There are very few Latin inscriptions in Britain and what few there are are mostly from the south.
The few examples we have of probable VL loans are wanderworten like "wine" and "cheese". Most other Latin loans are from the written and more prestigious variety and until the enlightenment deal with mostly church matters.

Second, French did a lot of borrowing from Frankish, and many of these borrowings wound up in English. Famous examples being "war" and "hurt", which should tell you a lot about the semantic sphere of many of these borrowings.

Anyway as for your point regarding linguistic purity, what the frogs and later renaissance and enlightenment men did was create boatfuls of Latinate vocabulary. That's well and true, but using the term "hybrid language" is misleading.
French, Norman or Norman French or whatever you want to call it did not actually exert much influence on English's grammar.

The completely "un-German" look of English happened because of the falling together of many Old English verbal and case endings due to phonological mergers and because of the remnant Norsemen population in the north of England which merged with the English after the Normans came and consolidified their rule. Old Norse and Old English were quite similar languages and pressure to communicate with the local Norse community encouraged the Saxons to adopt certain Nordic features. The words "they" and "are" are a good example of Norse loans.

I'm of the opinion that nobody should call any language a hybrid one because it's misleading and even where it could arguably be the most relevant term (creoles and pidgins) there's always a clear difference between the lexifier language and the substrate.
>>149313048
t. Leiden School meme linguist

>>149313748
Did you just post your fucking master thesis on 4chan?

>>149314124
No, I'm not even a linguist, I read books on this as a hobby.

>>149309204
Those are forename and all go back to the same religious figure.

European surnames had something to do with their respective occupation. Like Miller and Smith.

>>149298388
>VLC

>>149313748
This is going in my game

>>149304883
Pfft, written Chinese was first standardised by Qin Shihuang over 2 millennia ago.

If people really bothered to make communication efficient they'd have stuck with using classical Chinese/Japanese/Korean instead of the longwinded shit we have now.

>>149311401
Well shit.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/3/35/Iowa_Fall_2016.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20160901001425

>>149303869
t.dumb fuck

The English language is barbaric and Shakespeare was a cunt.

>>149298475
>everyone saying it was a trap
I thought Roppongi was a place with regular non-dick whores...

>>149316576
>Shakespeare was a quaint
I hath fixeth'd thine contributory posting.

>>149316849
"new-half" is wasei-eigo for chix w/ dix

>>149306976
No, it's not.

>>149306017
Marxists deserve to die.

LMAO

>>149298475
>newhalf
>he said No!
What a faggot, I swear