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>cockona
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I want to ____ Cocona.
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>>149190363
flap
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YA
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Denied.
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>Cock onna
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>>149190235

I'm not one of those fags who demand realism in my taiwanese little girl cartoons but the art style in this seriously looks like those "how to draw manga"-books.
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>>149190363
hold hands with
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>>149190363
hook Papiko up with
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is this inter-species yaoi?
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>>149190363
impregnate
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>>149191437
>he doesn't like Muppet faces
Get a childhood, fag
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>>149190363
NTR Yayaka with
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>>149193001
she's only in middle school.
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>>149193142
"if her age is on the clock then it's time for the cock"
-Gandhi
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>>149193139
Yayaka never competed for the Coconabowl. Stop it.
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>>149190235

Papricka.
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>>149190363
Cocona is only for Papikas
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>>149193234
Gandhi said that?
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>>149193288
No.
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This whole scene gave me the gays.
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>>149193310
He was a pedo.
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>>149190235
You didn't need to make this thread again.
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>>149193001
Papika pls
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>>149190235
but is cockona a cock ownah?
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>>149193842
Cockona will impregnate Papika, not the other way around.
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>>149193908
If you get pregnant in PI, does it carry over to the real world?
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>>149193938
Girls can't get eachother pregnant
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>>149193982
thats not what my chinese cartoons tell me
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>>149190235
Is this supposed to be Papika licking her lips in anticipation as she thumbles with her cock before sliding it into Cocona doggy-style? That's wat I imagine it is.
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>>149193310
He probably didn't say that but he did sleep naked around little girls to prove he wasn't a pedo because he didn't dick them. He also hated black people. All in all though good guy
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>>149194052
No, it's Papika licking her lips in anticipation of performing fellatio on Cocona.
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>>149194057
Woah Gandhi was based
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>I-I swear it's good guys j-just wait for episode 3
>it's still shit by episode 3
>D-Don't worry it really starts on episode 4
>it's still shit after episode 4
I should've trusted my instincts and just dropped this slab of shit after episode 1.
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>>149194057
Actually I believe he wanted to prove he could control his desires.
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I hope the bottom right on this doesn't symbolize that Papika is gonna die.
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>>149194434
N-no, anon, please. We need you.
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Is the cat secretly the leader of KKK?
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>>149194458
He really showed them
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>>149194526
she's already dead
this is hell
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>>149194526
How does that symbolize anything? It's obvious that Papika has escaped. The only symbolism could be that the swan is the swan of Tuonela, in which case they both die.
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>>149194526
Its the only panel where they're not together
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>>149194627
How is it obvious she have escaped?
>>149194665
Yes, that's why I thought so.
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>>149190639
I continue to watch this shit just to see Coconuts beat the living shit out of her.
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What are Yuyu and Toto's endgame?
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>>149190235
I don't get what is so good about this show. It's literally Dr. Who but with anime school girls.
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>poopika
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>>149195011
Lots and lots of pegging.
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>>149195058
>I don't get what is so good about this show. It's literally [insert something awesome here]
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>>149195072
>yayacuck
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>>149194526
We'll see Cocona leaves her alone at the tube, waiting desperately and unable to utter a single "Cocona!". Until the last moment, Cocona never appears.
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How did she get such good balance?
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>>149194526
Papika becomes a demon and Cocona kills her.
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>>149190235
This show wasn't even half as good you people told me it was.
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>>149195296
what did you expect?
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>>149195445
The FLCL of Evangelion.
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>>149195284
By not being a bozo.
Only bozos trip over.
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>>149195618
Yeah, who would want to be a Bozo
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Bozos are faaaaaaags
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So this is a show about dimension-hopping lesbians trying to gather enough magic rocks in order to liberate a parallel universe while also opposing the dimension-hopping KKK who also has lesbians at their control

i think I'm almost understanding
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>>149195011
>Toto, what does scouter say about her power level???
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>>149195773
That's what they want you to think
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>>149195773
Still much more than what the Japs understand.
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>>149195820
Beats me, ma'am. I can't read this shit.
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>>149195773
You forgot that fun things are fun.
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>>149194526
>1st panel papika leading cocona
>story develops
>they get separated (by the influence of the witch)
>cocona mans up and disposes of the witch
>last panel cocona leading papika
that's deep, man.
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Does Cocona know Papika had like 100 girlfriends before her?
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>>149195773
Also, it's all a metaphor for anal sex.
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>>149190363
flip her flaps
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>>149195958
The OP has a similar narrative. It starts with a gloomy Cocona and ends with Cocona cheering up a gloomy Papika.
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>>149195985
Cocona deserves someone with experience and not a virgin like Yayaka
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>>149193234
but 13 isn't on the clock
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>>149194843
>How is it obvious she have escaped?
bottom right shows cocona pushing the witch into the fire, then to the left it shows her and papika escaping while the witch (still on fire) tries to grab them
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>>149194843

She is seen running from fire to the left. The picture scrolls to the left. It's obvious.
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>>149195958
oh you are right, I'm a dummy
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>>149196128
5 masturbation sessions non stop equal to sex.
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>>149190235
I can't tell if it's a tongue or her mouth is half-open?
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>>149196160
>>149196197
see
>>149196224
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>>149196244
I don't know. Can you?
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>>149196244
if her mouth was half open like that you'd see her teeth
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>>149195011
>boy wears a full body suit
>girls have to wear exposing swimsuits
Based 3hz.
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I... I wrote a song for Cocona.

You are my Cocona
My only Cocona
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Please don't take my Cocona away

I hope she'll like it.
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These threads have gone to shit. If you have nothing useful to talk about like speculah or whatever then stop making new threads and bumping them until Thursday when we'll actually have new content to discuss. I don't want these threads to go the way of JoJo and Mob Psycho threads which are 24-hour and full of circlejerking.
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>>149197297
>I don't want
what you want is irrelevant
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>>149197297
Agreed. I'm just here to save other peoples pictures.
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>>149197187
Yes, it's obvious who you are !Papikana. I don't know why you think you can pretend otherwise.

You are literally the only person who forces that lesbian cancer into Cocona every singe day.

You are degrading and bastardizing the one you claim to love by making up gay poems. Thus, you are not her lover, by the very definition of the word.

This is the part where you reply to yourself saying to ignore "me".
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>>149195011
Me on the left.
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>>149197297
Just drop the twatter pics, senpai.
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>>149197470
oh god you summoned him you dumbfuck

just stop shitposting
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I'm still on episode 3. Did anything amazing happen in episode 4 or 5 or is it more of the same. If this show doesn't get better I'm going to drop it. And after I drop it I'm going to start bullying the people who are still watching it.
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>>149194526
Always just thought it was a re-telling of Hänsel and Gretel.
Bottom right is the witch getting shoved into the oven (oy vey!).
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>>149197706
Do not question the ritual.
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>>149197737
You aren't smart enough to bully people through the internet with words, so do whatever you want
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>>149197737
Episode 4 was character development and anal symbolism. 5 is yet to air.
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Can people find better ways to start a thread than
>Cockona

Like fuck, that's just autistic. Don't bother starting a thread unless you can also give it a discussion topic that isn't just /d/ shit or some forced greentext meme
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>>149197851
You are correct, thanks for your time.
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>HE is posting again
That's it, I'm fucking out. See you guys on Thursday.
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>>149198026
You are giving him what he wants. You should just keep posting normally, like he isn't here.
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>this thread
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>>149198026

4chanx filtering does wonders for your enjoyment with those type of autists around
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When is this supposed to take place? girls are fine with Papi in a space skateboard.
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>>149197187
You are my Cocona
My only Cocona
You make me happy
So please don't be gay
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Papika don't take my Cocona away

fixed
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>>149198178
Guys

What if Cocona is like

A clone of her grandmother
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>>149198292
It's stupid, the creator won't dare to put something like that in this anime, will they?
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>>149198292
Does anime colored hair change color as they age?
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Unkown loli in the OP, Senpai, Grandma. One of these is the final boss. Is Papika the only one with no ulterior motives here?
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>>149198413
The only instance of hair color changing is the characters growing old.
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>>149190841
Anon is a fag
He can not appreciate
Good shows like flip flap
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>>149195864
>Still much more than what the Japs understand.

How are they so inept?

The story is so freakin' easy to follow without getting bogged down with exposition
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>>149197297
Yeah, the show is quite comfy so far, but the rhythm of discussion changed a lot due to less info. I need some time to get used to it.
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>>149198404
She's definitely not a normal child. The KKK has apparently been keeping a tab on her, and having no parents is one thing but having ZERO relatives other than Granny is really weird unless she was adopted
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How do I make a filter that looks for more than a certain number of posts replied to?
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>>149197517
Me inside you every night.
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Your name will be Cocona.
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>>149199256
/(>>\d+\n*){6,}/

This is 6 or more in a row.
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>>149199271
>a little girl playing with her pussy
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test
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>>149199633
fuck it doesn't work. how do you use 4chanX to filter posts with certain words?
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Full ED when?
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>>149199696
I think reloading the page is necessary for new filters. I've often added tripfags to my filter list and they don't get filtered until I hit F5.

If you're worried that you've done it wrong, then make sure every /filter/ is on a new line. Add an i at the end like "/cuck/i" if you want to filter both lowercase and uppercase for each letter. Look up regular expressions if you want to learn more.
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>>149199336
How about not in a row?

I'm not a regex master sadly, but I think everyone would like a solution to this.
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>>149199911
I hope you realize how pathetic you are.
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>>149198272

They are also fine with giant kiwi birds running around their school. Safe to say, they're probably used to weird shit happening.
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Would you spread their flaps?
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>>149200141
You have no idea.
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>>149200141

No, there are better flaps in this show.
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>>149200141
I'd get my flaps spread by Yuyu.
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>>149200219
Papika is not for flapping by you.
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>>149200013
/(>>\d+\D*){6,}/

This should work for any post that has replies to six or more posts anywhere in it. Basically six replies that are separated by any number of non-digits.
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Not sure if fetish or just random
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>visible flaps
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>>149200468
Yeah, that'll work. Make it "/\!Akemi/i" if you want to include the exclamation mark. The backslash might not be necessary here, but I like to include it for anything that's not a letter or digit because regex just has so many control characters.
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>>149200336
Won't he just shove a number in there to thwart that?
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>>149200502
>uncensored flipper flaps
delete this
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So if KKK wants to rule the world, what is Flip Flap after?
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>>149200689
They want to liberate PI.
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>>149200689
Liberating Pure Illusion, pay attention.
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>>149200689
"Liberate Pure Illusion"

We still have to figure what the fuck that means.
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>>149200689
Free coke and whores.
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>>149200562
oh thank you it works. Now I can browse without ack's spam
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>>149200619
I didn't think of that. To account for numbers between replies this should work.

/(>>\d+\b[\d\D]*){6,}/
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>>149200771
So PPK wants to liberate Peru.
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>>149201000
>PI was actually "Peru Illusion" all along
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>>149201059
>you will never take Cocona to Pero Illusion
Damn.
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Flip Flappers?
More like Flip Floppers!
;_;
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>>149200762
>>149200767
>>149200771
My bad, I forgot. Though I'm still not buying into it.
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>>149201833
Could you please stop talking about this already
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what side are you on?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11536465/r
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>>149202038
Flap. Flip her over. Then flap again.
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>>149198493
A little rude, don't you think?
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>>149202111
>light pink text on a solid white background
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>>149201524
I wish this scene wasn't only for baiting viewers. We will never get an answer to her case.
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>>149202333
Baiting viewers? What the hell does that mean? Obviously they're going to reference again or there would be no point to including that scene. We're only on episode 4, dork.
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>>149202089
It's just a haiku to express my feelings, man
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Guys what the fuck is this show about?
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>>149202111
>implying yurifags aren't best of bros
please.
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>>149202411
Homosexual anal sex.
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>>149202411
Girl meets girl
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>>149202411
Watch it to find out.
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I want to cream in Yayaka's box.
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>>149202411

It's like Madoka but with lesbians
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Papika is so pure and innocent, but that just makes me want to do lewd things to her even more.
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>>149202733
How would she react to seeing a penis?
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>>149202767
Probably try to taste it to see if it's edible.
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>>149202486

Why did Cocona stop her?
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>>149202767
She'd probably sniff it first.
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>>149202726
>It's like Madoka but with lesbians
that's like saying 'it's like fire but with heat'
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>>149202836
"3/10, not enough fish"
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>>149200689
ruling mexico
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>>149202832
She didn't want to get a boner in front of Bu-chan and Hidaka.
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>>149202726
Utena
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>>149202927
It's almost like it was just a joke or something.
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>>149202927
>madoka and eva
>mature

kek, being edgy shit doesnt make them mature.
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Does preview for next episode come out tomorrow? I can't wait.
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>>149202927
is this a joke?
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>>149203078
Tuesday
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>>149203130
Yes.
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>>149202927

This is bait, Eva had some silly episodes and moments.

And even a pet character.

Madoka was about young and immature girls, that is the base of the show.
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Just about to start this week's episode

If you had to describe it in one word, what would it be?
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>>149203573
gay
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>>149203573
comfy
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>>149203573
Gay. Very gay, indeed.
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One thing that hasn't been mentioned. Remember how in episodes 1 and 2 the granny would always roll up and ask Cocona if she had a bad dream? The two possible explanations are some sort of time reset, or that she does that routinely. However in episode 4, Cocona wakes up alone. For some reason, granny did the same thing two mornings in a row, but not this time. So maybe there actually was a time reset that only affected Cocona's house, but not Papika.
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>>149203573
Mellow.

It was a nice cooldown episode after all of the action from the last few, but it was still chocked full of great imagery and some foreshadowing that we'll just have to wait and see to fully understand.
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>>149203751
Now it's played out, get another joke.
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>>149203735
Japanese have no privachee
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>>149203573
Boringasfuckingdeathkindofboringunlessyouareadeepfagandoneoftheworstkind.
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Weird but dull. Keep an eye on it, but so far it isn't living up to the hype, /a/. Also would you fags please wait until the show crawls up its own ass before you start calling it such-and-such-Evangelion? I know it isn't great but it isn't THAT bad. Yet.
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>>149203751
>Madoka, and Death Note are shows that I could recommend to adults.
And get laughed at
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I want to have a threesome with Cocona and her grandmother.
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>>149202927
eveangelion had alot of silly episodes and moments

madoka stayed more consistent and works but as a result it wasnt much fun by comparison
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>>149203239
His whole life, ruined in a moment
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>two girls are friends
>must be lesbians who want to spend the rest of their lives together

classic /a/.
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>>149204005
Not a hard conclusion to reach, desu.
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>>149204005
You don't want to spend the rest of your life together with your friends?
What a mean guy
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>>149203751

Anon please.

You probably COULD get away with Eva and Death Note with normies.

But Madoka is out of the question. You have to be an anime and not cringe at the look of little girls doing pedoshit first before you can enjoy Madoka or any female-focused otaku shows.
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>>149203963
That's why adults can like it, because it "doesn't take itself too seriously." Adults need that to keep it from feeling like they're watching a show aimed at teens who are high edge.
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>>149204089
Just think if lizardvag wasn't such a mean girl. If she just wanted to caress Cocona's face lovingly and become joyful friends and have fun with her.
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>>149202927
I like this show but never liked Madoka because reasons. What now?
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>>149204092
>You have to be an anime
Fuck.
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T-t-they're just friends, right???
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>>149204358
Very.
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>>149204005
>Friends
>Partners of destiny or some shit
>Papika endlessly declaring her love for Cocona and how her wish was to meet her.
>Cocona clearly showing signs of internal confusion about her feelings for Papika blushing all the time ect even when in private
>Friends
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>>149204398
Ain't nothing gay about sticking your dick in your buddy's ass. Nothing at all.
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>>149202927
>Imagine if Evangelion or Madoka had an episode like this.
You don't have to imagine
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>>149204301
>Death Note has a lot of appeal to casuals.
You said adults. Death Note has a lot of appeal to casual teens. Too edgy and ridiculous for adults.

>And with Madoka, you simply have to tell people to keep watching it until episode 3.
If they'd even watch it beyond seeing girls in frilly dresses they're either women or already otaku. Try recommending it to an adult who doesn't watch anime. Be sure to show them a picture of cute girls in frilly dresses.

>Episode 3 of Flip Flappers was immature. There's no other way to put it. Episode 3 also contained pointless lewd stuff, so you can't recommend it for younger people as well.

You can't recommend Flip flappers 1-2 to adults either. It'd be like recommending they go watch Aladdin or some shit.
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The names of these characters have repeating first syllable: Cocona, Yayaka, Toto, Yuyu.

None of the others characters do.

Out of 4 characters with repeating first syllable, 3 work for Asclepius.

It's only reasonable that Cocona also has some relation to Asclepius. Perhaps she is (unwittingly) a decoy to infiltrate Flip Flap and destroy it from within.
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>>149204638
>Find me one moment in Madoka or Evangelion that was that immature.
The scene where Shinji's penis was covered by a bottle of toothpicks
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Can we stop having Flia Fla threads for a while, until at least there are previews for the next episode? These threads really turn to shit.
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>>149204638
>Is that the best you can find. A quick joke about Asuka's plug suit?
She was like that for most of the ep
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>>149203751
>linking to a youtube video
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>>149204660
Friendly reminder that the very first gem they found was embedded in Cocona's thigh.
They didn't retrieve it from PI, they brought it with them and only found while in PI by coincidence.

Cocona almost certainly has some mysterious connection to PI that precedes her encounter with Papika. Either related to her grandmother or to the death of her parents.
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>>149204621
>Aladdin
Disney movies have universal appeal. Movies like Toy Story and Frozen wouldn't have sold so much if it was only adults taking their kids to see them. Just like how Ghibli movies have universal appeal for all age brackets.

Unrelated, but did anyone else just have issues solving the captchas. It would show it as solved, but when I pressed post it didn't do anything. Weird. I smell a conspiracy by Hiro to get more people to buy 4chan pass.
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>>149204820
>he thinks adults go to see Disney movies alone

Wat
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>>149204660
Or most likely her parents are/were KKK agents.
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>>149204638
>The rest of the comedy in Eva is no different from what you'd find in mainstream movies such as The Avengers.
Does Iron Man turn into a super deformed character in the Avengers?
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>>149204804
At this point I'm going to be pissed if either CCN or PPK are just illusions and disappear at the end of the show.
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>>149190363
break Papika's heart and spirit by recording and uploading to the internet a video of myself and maybe a friend or two raping and ejaculating in the pussy, mouth and anus of her best friend,
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>>149204660

Furthermore, Yayaka and the twins have some sort of signal that coincided with PPK and CCN entering PI. And they also knew when they entered episode 3 PI. The most reasonable explanation is that Cocona is being tracked.
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>>149204986
I miss those sorts of endings, they just don't do them that often any more.

I want Cocona and Papika to exchange tearful goodbyes and then embrace as the latter dissolves into sparkles, swept along with the breeze and lost in the sky.
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>>149205123
I normally like those kind of endings, don't get me wrong. Things like FLCL I think were great for it. So normally I would agree with you. But at this point I'm waaaay to invested in Cocona and Papika to want anything but for them to be happy together.
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>>149204742
What starter will you choose?
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>>149205200
FLCL wasn't really an "it was just an illusion" ending though
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So far all of the episode titles have been "Pure X"
Which episode do you think they'll finally title "Pure Illusion"?
Will it be the finale or the climax, or some mid-cours twist?
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>>149205200
Comes down if the ending feels forced. Like Mai hime's happy ed was retarded beyond belief. But yeah, I'll cry for a week if Papi goes back to her planet. Hope it happens around christmas to have some free days to assimilate it.
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>>149205316
Oh, I thought you were referring to the the "Main duo must split forever at the end in a bittersweet goodbye" ending. I'm trying to think of a good example of an "it was all an illusion ending" would be. Princess Tutu in a way I guess?
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Cocona is a lost snail
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>>149200767
I have a feeling Salt is going to be the final boss.
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>>149205302
Cocona, naturally.
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>>149205422
Exactly. I'll like it if it's executed well no doubt, but I'm just overly invested in the duo's relationship at this point, whatever it is, so separating them at the end would be fairly devastating.

>>149205453
Salt is either gonna go all Gendo on us and be the last boss or he's a former member of the KKK or something and is just an ass.
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>>149202726
>HENSHIN

I'm glad I went into this show completely blind, you have no idea how fucking pumped I was at that scene
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>>149205453
Very few anime actually have a final boss proper
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>>149205200

It turns out its all a bedtime story a mother tells her child. And we only get a hint that the mother is cocona but no confirmation
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>>149205535
Action anime tend to do.
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>>149205520
This scene made my whole goddamn week.
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This guy.
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>>149202832
Why the fuck would she want to see Papika naked? That shit is gross.
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>>149205453
>Salt
>final boss
Nope
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>>149206035
The KKK is only going to be the midboss at best.
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>>149206011
You might be gay, anon.
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>>149205970
Why he knows so many?
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>>149206057
They believe themselves to be the end of it all but at their height the real end boss might just as well cast them down and go for his/their final gambit.
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>>149206072
I mean Cocona didn't want to see her naked (yet) and she's pretty clearly gay.
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>>149206216
Cocona might actually be gayer for Sayuri than for Papika.
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>>149206272
Nah, I legit think Cocona is just starting to come to grips with her feelings in general. Sayuri obviously is a pretty woman and that would do things to her but I think that just represents lust. Clearly there's way more than that with Papika.
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>>149202927
Notice how when this episode first aired the tidal waves of praise for being such a purehearted, refreshing show about artistic subtlety and nuance immediately shifted into "OH MAN THIS IS SO CUHRAYZEE AWESOME LOL MAD MAX WITH LESBIANS BUT IT'S STILL SUPER DEEP AND PURE THOUGH NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THE SPECK ON THE BACKGROUND IN A RANDOM FRAME SYMBOLIZES HOMOSEXUALITY"
People just have a very difficult time admitting when they were very, very wrong about something they like. Luckily the show still has plenty of time to turn it around.
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>>149206358
I think you need to calm down.
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Will 3Hz ever recover after this flop?
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>>149206358
Good that we are back at stage one, praising it as a purehearted, refreshing show about artistic subtlety and nuance.
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>>149206358
What if I liked eps 1-2 and 3? Is it not allowed to like more than one kind of thing?
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Papika is so cute man.
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>>149206358
I was in the first few threads and they were 80% shitposts like this.
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>>149206072
>not being interested in ugly chicks makes a man gay
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>>149206675
She is the best thing ever!
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>>149206923
>Papika
>ugly
https://u.pomf.is/ahvxxr.webm
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>>149206938
She's a retarded moeblob. Easily the weakest character of the show.
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>>149206992

But surely we will learn about her dark secret and reason for the facade?
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>>149207062
Doesn't make her any less of a moeblob
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>>149205612
She's looking at her pantsu.
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>>149207062
This isn't Smile! Precure man
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Does Cocona feel like her spirit animal is a snail to anyone else?
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>>149206358
I think most people that watch it have seen an Imaishi show or Space Dandy before.
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>>149207361
This

The show feels like it was cut of the Gainax cloth to me.
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>>149206991
Maybe I just have high standards. I shudder at the thought of fucking this girl without the assistance of a brown paper bag with the photo of an attractive female taped to the back, but if you don't then that's cool.
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>>149190235
I miss Cocoa
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>>149207361
Dandy was almost the exact opposite though in that it never presented itself as anything but dumb, crazy, oversexualized fun then all along the way you get repeatedly blindsided by gorgeous artistic splendor, shockingly well-planned out metaphysics and a general degree of depth that is frankly undeniable. With FF I feel it's more a case of trying to present itself as this outstandingly artistic work of fiction that can't hide, and in some cases even glorifies how shallow and crass it can be. It just seems a lot of things we've seen are in direct opposition with the themes the show is trying to present to us, which isn't always necessarily a bad thing but in this case I just can't see it as well executed.
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>>149207125
What pantsu?
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>>149206358
>for being such a purehearted, refreshing show about artistic subtlety and nuance
what the fuck am i reading
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>>149208326
Space Dandy was always just an excuse for Watanabe to bring in his superstar pals for an episode, which is the reason it can go from idiotic toilet humor to actual scifi to moodpiece between episodes. It's not a good idea to talk about Space Dandy as a whole because it's literally a loose anthology of vaguely Space Dandy themed short films. Some of them are clever, some of them are dumb, there's nobody being "blindsided" because it's completely incoherent.

Flip Flappers has a similar approach but it has (ostensibly) a basic plot structure and is made by more or less the same team every time.
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>>149206426
You don't have to make it sound like you aren't saying "you need to stop criticizing the anime I like". In either case the answer is going to be no.
>>149206459
Ignoring all the gratuitous fanservice this latest episode was full of, yeah I guess we are. But for how long remains yet to be seen.
>>149206610
Then I'm happy for you, but it really doesn't have anything to do with what I was saying.
>>149206817
All threads are 80% shitposts, that's an automatic given. But I noticed a distinct shift in tone within the other 20% when that episode aired, and it seemed to me like quite a few people were trying very desperately and unconvincingly to defend the show's artistic vision while a massive bulging leather-clad cock and balls were pressing up against the screen. I admit to having difficulty finding the deeper meaning in all that, maybe I just don't get it.
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>>149208623
Clearly not the threads we were having when the first two episodes initially aired.
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>>149209016
Were you born without the ability to have fun or did you lose it through some sort of childhood trauma?
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>>149209016
>gratuitous fanservice
has been there since episode 1

>blah blah but muh essays about sodium lamps stopped after ep3
there was no change in the fundamentals of the show just because they let ahoboy be ahoboy a little. the change in whatever fickle consumers talk about is not an argument against the product.
flip flappers has never presented itself as something grand or "outstandingly artistic" (the fuck?).
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>>149209016
>gratuitous fanservice
You don't need an excuse to show naked middle school girls onscreen.
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>>149209016
This show has always been about childish innocence and silly adventures. The "gratuitous fanservice" is not completely irrelevant either.
It's a show about coming of age.
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How many Flips could a Flip Flapper Flap if a Flip Flapper could Flap Flips?
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>>149209016
Well I won't make excuses for people acting dumb but to me it was always obvious that Flip Flappers' core idea is "animators fucking around". The first episodes being moody and artsy were a nice surprise but episode 3 was hardly a shocking departure, especially since the core theme is "weird adventures" and that still was a weird adventure, just with FoTN references instead of Nausicaa references.
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>>149200219
>Cocona's face
Is she straight or what!?
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>>149209016
>it seemed to me like quite a few people were trying very desperately and unconvincingly to defend the show's artistic vision while a massive bulging leather-clad cock and balls were pressing up against the screen. I admit to having difficulty finding the deeper meaning in all that, maybe I just don't get it.
A lot of artsy works are very sexual. It kind of turns me off in live action but apparently artsy fartsy guys like it, like that "Anti-Christ" movie duology by that one big "artsy" director guy.
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>>149209169
>It's a show about coming of age.
Some of the worst shows are about coming of age. See: Captain Earth
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>>149209016
>while a massive bulging leather-clad cock and balls
What?
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>>149209206
imagine someone talking down FLCL's writing because they "have difficulty" "finding meaning" in the inane manga page parts

oh wait
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>>149209267
90% of anime are about coming of age in some way. You can't cite that as an argument for anything.
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>>149209345
He cited it being "coming of age" first though as if that somehow was innately a good thing.
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>>149209376
It's not inherently a good or bad thing.

It's just very relevant to the question why there is "sexual stuff" in a show.
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>>149209398
Sure looks like it.
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I like the show alot but its literally "We want the ITS SO DEEP IM SMART! Mawaru Penquindrum crowd."
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>>149209188
Where are the Nausicaä references?
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>>149190363

Too bad dont exist male teens in this anime. What happened? they died in the fairy tales visuals?
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>>149209432
i'm sure it's very important that the robot gropes the girls or that we get a slow, detailed pan of one of them bathing naked so that the coming of age theme can be expressed.

yes
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>>149209432
There are western coming of age movies with no sex in the champagne room.
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>>149209503
Go to bed, ESL-kun.
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>>149208689
While most of that is true, Space Dandy undoubtedly had an overarching main plotline that didn't come to fruition until the last two episodes, in hindsight it was far from incoherent. Again though it's the exact opposite of Flip Flappers in that the main plotline here is central to all the events that are occurring and is given a great amount of ill-explained focus every episode, whereas in Dandy the main conflict between Gogol and Jaicro and what Dandy had to do with it all was always humorously pushed aside to make way for the story of the episode, until just about the very end where everything comes together and suddenly everything starts making sense. I can't say much further on this subject particularly since we're only four episodes in on Flippity Flaps but there are a lot more parallels to be drawn between these two shows than I would've guessed until you mentioned it.
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>>149209503

I never knew Flintstones was so deep.
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>>149209498
ohmu all up in this shit

>>149209504
some fanservice present != all fanservice
gratuitous

>>149209576
Yeah, because Americans are deathly afraid of sex.
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>>149209470
It's not that fucking complicated of a show. Maybe you're just shallow.
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>>149209376
I did not mean to imply that it's good simply because it's about coming of age. The argument was that the shift in tone that came with episode 3 came out of nowhere. Sure it was far more hotblooded but in the context of a coming of age story, it fits. Growing up brings a lot of confusion and emotional shifts with it. Cocona was living out her fantasy of being a badass gang leader tearing shit up with her lackeys, while the episodes before it had different contexts.
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>>149209636
so i guess you are saying the sexually charged shots are not gratuitous but actually important then

well no, they aren't. the creators are just horndogs, i don't understand why one would try so hard to deny this
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>>149209504
The robot groped the girls so their feelings would synchronize and they could travel to PI. Seems like you aren't paying attention.
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>>149209607
Dandy doesn't have an "overarching" plotline, it has just a handful of episodes throughout that form sort of a plotline. Yeah, it was pretty surprising and fun to see the final episode pay off in any way whatsoever, but 1. it wasn't even a particularly great plotline and 2. that has no bearing on the other 90% of the show.
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>>149209657
Its not what im saying is the show is either going to go down the Urobuchi circle jerk route or its just going to stay the Gainax/Trigger flip and fap. Maybe im just autistic.
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>>149209711
surely it was not because the robot can only think of sex as we've seen, or because the animators saw a good excuse to draw that particular situation. yes, let's think about every aspect in a human-made work as if we were characters inside the fictional universe.
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>>149209762
Uh okay
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>>149209701
I think anime is not the medium for you.
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>>149209701
>so i guess you are saying the sexually charged shots are not gratuitous but actually important then
Yes, that is exactly what is being said here.
You're presupposing a generalized negativity and inappropriateness to sexuality.
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>>149209636
>Yeah, because Americans are deathly afraid of sex.
Does that mean they never came of age?
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>>149208326
>a lot of things we've seen are in direct opposition with the themes the show is trying to present to us
Absolutely not. Flip Flappers is one of the most thematically consistent shows in years.
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>>149209701
I'm not denying it, some instances are clearly gratuitous. It's still an anime-ass anime and animators are ALWAYS horndogs.

It's just that a lot of the sexual themes, ironically in episode 3 in particular, seems pretty meaningful.
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>>149209779
What? That's literally the reason, are you illiterate?
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>>149202726
It's FLCL but with lesbians
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>>149209815
i think you're assuming too much about me.
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>>149209806
Love you Papika and your peculiarly constant barefootedness that educes my raging boner.
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>thread is suddenly full of sweeping generalizations about sexuality and presumptuous projecting towards not only creator intent, but what kind of people they are
Did I just step into a community college film studies class or something?
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>>149209919
Underrated.
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>>149209190
Nah, Just sexually confused.
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>>149209948
He posted that minutes ago. If the thread had continued and he never got a single response, maybe you could post that.

>>149209779
see pic related. Bu-chan is ordered to touch them and we see a shot of their wavelengths synchronizing
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>>149202927
nig it's anime calm down

you're not reading fucking Evola
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>>149204005
>two girls are friends
>papi's dream was to meet coco and coco has uncontrollable confused horniness for papi
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>>149204638
The Avengers is for teenagers, though.
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>>149210064
> Bu-chan is ordered to touch them and we see a shot of their wavelengths synchronizing

To be fair, an explanation is not the same as an excuse. However, in this case it's very relevant that Bu-chan is always after fragments and Cocona has a fragment in her thigh, which becomes even more clear when plant loli goes after it as well in episode 3.

But why put a fragment in her thigh to begin with? Is it "just" an excuse for groping scenes or is it a profound metaphor for Cocona being afraid of losing her virginity?

At the end of the day, at the most basic level a groping scene is still a groping scene. It's just better if it ALSO means something.
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>>149210494
P.S. if you want to complain about gratuitous fanservice, I don't have much of a problem with that in a sexually charged fever dream like Flip Flappers, even if it doesn't work 100% of the time.

I'm getting pretty mad when fucking Izetta suddenly brings that shit out of nowhere for no reason though.
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flop
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>>149210592
Izetta's a perfect example of gratuitous, meaningless sexuality used to push sales, though.
It's been that way from episode one. They practically make a joke out of it
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>>149210851
i don't think it's a case of sales when it comes to flifla though. the animators just like drawing sexually suggestive scenes.

in fact i'm pretty sure that most people who are good at drawing have drawn porn at some point. i ain't even whining.
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>>149210592
I like the fanservice in Izetta a lot, it lightens up a story that would otherwise be too dark and unenjoyable for me. I have much bigger objections with Yoshino’s questionable storytelling and his tendency to pull things out of his seemingly endless anus when he can’t be arsed to write a proper transition from one of his major events to the next.
It probably sucks for people who for some to me absolutely inconceivable reason want to take the story that seriously.

The sexually charged content integrates much better into the story in Flip Flappers, both on a direct and especially on a metaphorical level. It doesn’t even need an explanation (you can call it excuse too) for existing, it just fits with the theme of the show, and that theme is Yuri. It’s oh so refreshing to have that sexual content here as opposed to yet another BEST FRIENDS story.
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>>149210494
>is it a profound metaphor for Cocona being afraid of losing her virginity?

I agree with the rest of your post and I have no problem with that question. It's just a question and right now it doesn't have an answer and possibly never will.
What's irritating is that a portion of the criticisms of this show are focused on what people discuss in the threads, not what is shown in the actual episodes. The show has never tried to justify it's childishness or it's fanservice with ham-handed excuses, nor has it made any grand claims to be a serious commentary about real world issues. It's a silly adventure with some interesting references and subtle visuals that might go unnoticed.
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>>149210945
i'm the guy who was talking about the gratuitous fanservice being there since episode 1 and i was saying exactly this (>>149209148) to the first fag i was arguing with.
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>>149210914
>i don't think it's a case of sales when it comes to flifla though. the animators just like drawing sexually suggestive scenes.
I think you ought to make capitalization a habit, anon.

Also, you might be interested in taking a look through the archives of flifla threads. Looking at the sexuality in this show as purely titillating is, in a word, ignorant. I'm not about to retread all of that discussion just for the sake of one opinionated prude, but it exists to find if you care to look.
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>>149210592
>Izetta
Did you not watch the OP?
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>>149209131
Why is it every time I try to talk about the show's "message" or whatever you'd like to call it someone like you gets mad and pulls the fun card, then when I concede and say "well maybe it is just a dumb fun show" then here comes a bunch of people saying "no it fucking isn't it's literally the deepest show of the season and you just don't get it"
Am I missing something or are these threads just full of cunts?
>>149209148
Insinuating episodes one and two had blatant fanservice on the level of episode three makes me think you haven't been paying attention to the show. Everything else you said makes me almost positive you haven't been paying attention. The fuck indeed.
>>149209188
And that "animators fucking around" thing is a lot of the heart and soul that I've come to appreciate but I feel as though they're trying to build a story that they don't care about as much as they do fucking around with visuals, and it somewhat invalidates a lot of the seriousness and imagery the show is presenting. Maybe I'm just being unreasonable but that's how I feel.
>>149209152
>>149209206
Oh believe me I understand fully, but until that point the sexuality had been much more subtle and cohesive, from what I'd seen many were praising how it was there but not in your face. Then right out of nowhere BAM, sweaty half naked men, lewd transformation sequence, lesbian S&M dungeon and naked loli dominatrix. One would have to lack eyes not to see the difference, and it comes right at you with no warning. None of it felt necessary in any way other than just to give me a cheap erection. I personally preferred the much more tasteful erection the other episodes gave me.
>>149209303
Since you asked so nicely, here, enjoy.
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>>149211104
I can capitalize, and I have been in all the threads. Most of the "discussion" about that stuff has been retarded since day 1.

And I am not a prude. You just went and assumed I had a Big Issue with the lewd stuff because I wasn't trying to make weird, embarrassing excuses for the animators' tastes. I'm sure they wouldn't, either.
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>>149210945
Oh absolutely. I think people expecting all the weird references in this show to pay off plotwise are going to get massively disappointed. However, a reference can still be meaningful even if it doesn't end up being a plot point. Which is why saying "I wish there wasn't so much nudity in this show that I want to be profound otherwise" is so dumb though. If you look hard enough, the nudity can ALSO be profound. And if you want to not take the show seriously at all, well, why are you complaining then.
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>>149210914
>the animators just like drawing sexually suggestive scenes.
It's a sexually suggestive show though. Outside of the direct fanservice it is arguably full of phallic and yonic symbols.
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>>149211080
Yeah I think we are on the same page I just wanted to put some thoughts down.
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>>149206358

>I don't like imagination and adventure

What's wrong with you, anon?
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>>149211201
The fact that you think they need be excused in the first place just lays down the presumptions you've already bad.

If human sexualityis the devil, I'm afraid there's not much in this show or this discussion which could interest you, but projecting your own narrowminded values onto a cartoon and its creators because you find the subject matter objectionable is fairly petty.
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>>149211360
you have a really hard time reading, so i won't write nice and tidy for you again. waste of effort
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>>149211153
Fun and a "message" are not mutually exclusive. You seem to be utterly blinded to one by the other.
The reason I ask if you have no sense of fun is because you're acting like someone who has no sense of fun.
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>>149211411

You have some really warped views on sexuality, anon. Can we rangeban Americans already?
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>>149211153
Why is it so hard to understand that there exists something between purely dumb fun and 3deep5u?

But yes, if you think sexual imagery invalidates the message of a show PRIMARILY about YURI, it might actually be 3deep5u, even though this concept shouldn’t be very hard to grasp.

>but until that point the sexuality had been much more subtle and cohesive
If you say so.
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>>149211411
Nah, you're making assumptions about the creators and their intent, so I'm just going to assume pic related is you.
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>>149211153
I'm going to to assume that at it's core, you are arguing against such an extreme shift from subtle, cohesive fanservice, to more blatant, distasteful fanservice?

Personally I don't think it came out of nowhere. It was surprising and yes, it was much more in your face, but I don't think that invalidates anything like you are suggesting. We might just have agree to disagree.
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>>149211461
but i'm not american :^)
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>>149210945
To be fair it's hard for a show to make any grand claims or excuses when it doesn't want to explain fucking anything. Everything is left up to the presentation and execution, which comes across in a fashion that can seem like it's insisting upon itself. There's a word here I can use but usually make it a strong point not to because of the can of worms it opens. Pretentious.
And be careful with claiming this is just a silly adventure with some visuals here and there, no small number of people in the thread who'll bite your dick off and call you a brain damaged moron for not seeing the profound depth.
At least they're not as bad as Evafags though.
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>>149211461
>Can we rangeban Americans already?
Don't lump me with him. I'd flip Cocona's 13-year-old flaps anyday.
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>>149211153
>sweaty half naked men, lewd transformation sequence, lesbian S&M dungeon and naked loli dominatrix.

hm it's almost like the point of that is Cocona suddenly being confronted with sweaty, dirty, lustful sexuality unlike the "why is my kokoro so doki doki" theme there was before
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>>149211543
>I'd flip Cocona's 13-year-old flaps anyday.
ANON, isn't cocona 14
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>>149211536
If it's not explaining anything because there's nothing particularly deep that needs to be explained, then how is that pretentious? What?

And you're just proving that anon's point when you harp on about what other people will say about the show as if it's an argument about the show itself.
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I love Flip Flappers
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>>149211605
Episode 2 was already much more than doki doki.

It’s almost as if there’s been a buildup to episode 3.
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>>149211619
Yes.
Possibly even 15.
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>>149211536
>Everything is left up to the presentation and execution
in other words, left to stand by itself. the opposite of pretentious, which actually befits the shows that want to overexplain everything because they fancy themselves better than the audience and must let everyone know just how clear they got it

once again, people in these threads wanting to find meaning or speculating about an original show doesn't mean anything wrt the actual thing.
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>>149211653
15 is too old. I hope she's 14.
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>>149211619
There's no confirmed age but she's definitely either 13 or 14 depending on her birthday and the date of the show, that's the age of middle school second year students in Japan.
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>>149211652
Episode 2 was practically explosive with fertility imagery which, considering Cocona's age, was almost certainly pertaining to menses.
It's pretty understandable that episode 3 would advance to confronting sexuality in a more direct manner.
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>>149211720
but dude!!!! the gang bikers in the desert civilization episode were RUDE and BOISTEROUS, like an actual gang!

SO IMMATURE man. I thought this show was for us ADULTS to enjoy the OUTSTANDING ARTISTRY on display, such as bunny girls biting various things including each other
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>>149211536
>no small number of people in the thread who'll bite your dick off and call you a brain damaged moron for not seeing the profound depth

Please point these people out because whenever the words "profound" and "deep" are used unironically, it's by people who think the words are being used by fans. I have read most, if not all, of the threads for this show and I can't remember a post claiming 'This show is so deep/profound'. Many people do call others morons for not understanding the SIMPLE story and themes that the show presents in a less cliched manner.
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>>149211653
>>149211695

>In Dark Shadows (2012) Johnny Depp say a 15-years-old women is too old for birth.
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>>149211720
And when you look at it like this, episode 4 seem an awful lot like a couple figuring out that there's more going on between them the morning after a horny one night stand.
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>>149211834
Well, apparently the story isn’t quite as simple because a lot of people still don’t seem to get it. Depth lies in the eye of the spectator, and if "sex is an important part of this show" completely flies over your head, then it’s probably too deep for you.
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>>149211974
Not him but for what it's worth, the latter part of the OFUROOOO scene makes them sound like they're having sex. You just need to close your eyes after the holes start appearing and listen.
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>>149212096
>You just need to close your eyes after the holes start appearing and listen.
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>>149212158
Yeah, the wet holes that they start plugging with their fingers.
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>>149212049
What I meant is that the story, while simple, is told in an atypical (in anime at least) manner i.e. visual storytelling. It isn't bloated with exposition and explanations so the spectator needs to make a few connections themselves or maybe even look some things up to get a more complete understanding of it's relative 'depth'.
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What do you call a girl like this?
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>>149212305
Yeah that's pretty much the thing here.

I can understand people who say that there's not much to the imagery or the references or the symbolism, that's fair even if I don't totally agree.

However, saying that you can't follow the very simple overt plotline and that it's all random nonsense just means that you're an idiot that needs LN levels of exposition in everything.
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>>149212425
Cute.
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>>149212425
Beautiful
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>>149212425
Caught red handed.
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>>149212425
Dork. Would still do her like an animal, tho
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>>149212425
COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA COCONA
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>>149212425
Sexually woke wife of a feral girl.
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Do NOT sexualize the FliFlas.

They are NOT for lewd.
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>>149212548
>Dork

will the yuri dork meme ever die?
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>>149212596
Hopefully not.
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>>149212596
Hopefully not
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>>149212577
Why does she dress like Pippi Longstocking?
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>>149212662
That's how magical girls are supposed to dress
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>>149212049
To add to this >>149212305

>if "sex is an important part of this show" completely flies over your head, then it’s probably too deep for you
That's correct in the same sense that if you can't tread 6 feet of water as a 5 foot tall person, then it IS too deep for you. It doesn't mean that it's too deep for someone who is capable of treading that water at the same height or a person who is taller than 6 feet. It's all relative.
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>>149212590
Stop using that trip already, faggot.
And the Flip Flappers are plenty lewd on their own.
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>>149209016
How vulgar.
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>>149212691
Fucking delete this right now.
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>>149211720
Episode 3 also had the whole thing with the mask that made Cocona act on what she really wants. Which didn't make a whole lot of plot sense, why would Cocona suddenly want to have flashy DBZ punchman fights with Papika?

If you think about it on the thematic level of the whole episode, which is "people being horny, possibly related to dominating each other", it suddenly makes an abundant amount of sense.
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>>149212690
That sounds really fucking pretentious, anon. There aren’t enough fedoras in my country to tip for that.
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>>149212738
>Cocona was so horny she wanted to punch Papika
i don't get it
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>>149194526
holy shit you are dumb
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>>149212772
Where do you think "I'd hit it" came from?
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>>149212425
yuri dork
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>>149212729
>people say that this show won't get dark when this exist
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>>149212772
She went to a world based on sweaty BDSM sexuality (reminder that Papika spends a lot of the time before meeting Cocona tied up as well), and the magical BDSM fairy gave her an excuse to beat Papika up. She then realizes that no matter how much you want to, Safe, Sane and Consensual is still the most important thing.

Yeah, what could it mean indeed.
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>>149212905
Cocona is just a scaredy cat
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Why do humans react so differently to the same content?
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>>149212751
Just like a weightlifter can lift hundreds of pounds more easily than a teenager who doesn't work out?
Just like a scientist that's studied in their field for years understands that field more than someone just entering a college class of the same field?

Some people have better awareness of, or proficiency with, certain subjects than others. It's just a fact.
The sexual undertones are obvious to anyone who isn't clueless about such matters. That doesn't say anything about the quality of the person or the show.
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What's up with the girl?
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>>149212953
She's fucking terrified to death.
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>>149212962
Because no two people are exactly alike, and the way they were raised or where they live has a huge effect on their psychology?
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>>149213051
Who knows.
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>>149213051
She's a demon
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>>149213051
She's a whore.
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>>149213051
Secret DEEP message
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>>149212949
>a world based on sweaty BDSM sexuality

I would like to remind everyone of the concept art that keeps getting posted, wherein even the well is in chains and the water jug is tied up in a shibari pattern.
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>>149213127
Toto is the whore. Playing Yuyu, Yayaka and robot-chan like they are all fiddles.
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>>149212425

A complete retard that cant exist in the real world
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>>149213144
oh cool, i found it
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>>149213127
Stupid Yayaka, don't flirt with her.
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>>149212425
Kokomine-san
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What would sex with Yuyu be like?
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>>149213387
Seems like the real horndog isn't even the animators, it's tanu.
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>>149190235
Why is this show good? No seriously I can't really think of what it is exactly.

The art and animation are obviously top notch.
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>>149213752
I feel it drawing a lot on nostalgia for older styles of anime. Even the soundtrack sounds like something out of a late 90's movie.
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>>149213752
Very little boring exposition explaining the world. Any other anime would spend 5 minutes of talking heads explaining what Pure Illusion is.
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>>149213752
The interaction between Cocona and Papika feels kinda natural, not forced, not pandering. It's really cute and I'm saying this as someone that doesn't care about yuri. The story is straight forward, but leaves enough open for speculation. Every episode so far offered something new.

And yeah, art and animation is great.
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>>149213752
It feels like something that people actually have fun making, not some focus group approved cashgrab.
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Yaya people:
-Smart
-Sensitive
-Independent
-Refined and graceful

PPK people
-Dominant
-"Masculine"
-Noisy
-More likely to be atheists.
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>>149213752
This show is literally the greatest anime of the last 10 years.

It's basically the next Evangelion.

Anime experts, in the future, will refer to anime as pre-Flip_Flappers and post-Flip_Flappers.
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>>149214040
man we really need to make a FliFla-themed bait image macro. Someone want to volunteer?
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>>149214040
I want to imagine, for a moment, a world where this comes true.

I want to be alive and on /a/ when the End of Pure Illusion movie is finally subbed.
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>>149190235
>cock on a
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>>149214039
What about Coconut people?
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>>149214040
I can't even begin to imagine what /a/ would be like if Eva came out for the first time today.
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>>149214114
sounds like a gimmick thread waiting to happen.
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>>149214040
please never use this bait anywhere but these threads
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>>149214112
Closet sexual deviants.
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>>149214194
it has been done hundreds of times
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>>149214221
Sounds about right.
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>>149214221
I don't see how wanting to have sex with Cocona makes me a sexual deviant.
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>>149214221
>looks in a totally not vagina
>sees Papika
>Papika invites her in
>world of colours and happiness
I've said this before but I'll say it again. Papika is representative of Cocona's own repressed drives. The conflicts they've had with one another all throughout these past 4 episodes have been personifying the internal conflicts within Cocona. Her gradual acceptance of Papika is representative not only of her gradual acceptance of her own impulses, but also her own libido. These past 4 episodes have basically just been a 14 year old girl coming to terms with the beginning of puberty, and overcoming the shame of exploring her own body, hence the repeating imagery of being framed by rough-edged aperture. Just as Papika is inviting her to enter their tube playhouse, Cocona's libido is inviting her to masturbate, and Cocona is slowly learning that it's okay to embrace these feelings in moderation and indulge herself without feeling ashamed or angry or defeated for it.

She's basically going through the female equivalent to the "swing the bat" metaphor from FLCL
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>>149211417
And to me you sound like someone extremely upset by my analysis of certain elements I didn't find completely palatable. I'd say sorry for not feeling the need to sing praises about literally everything regardless of whether I like it or not, but I'm not going to lie to you like that. I'm really not sorry at all.
>>149211497
Because when you try to reach for two opposites you often, if not always inevitably fail to grasp either. I really want to see this show succeed at what it's doing but I'm not going to withhold whatever criticisms I may have. But if you believe biting a rock is as ostentatious as a literal S&M sex dungeon then we're clearly not going to see eye to eye on this one.
Why you can't seem to understand the concept of a "primarily" yuri show not necessarily having to use overbearing sexual imagery to get it's point across is another matter entirely.
>>149211516
Precisely, I am by no means a stranger to the most trashy fanservice imaginable but at the risk of sounding like an entitled fuck I expected a bit better from this, which I suppose is my fault since I have watched and enjoyed stuff like FLCL and Diebuster and what have you, and should know what to expect by now.
>>149211605
And you really don't think there was a more tasteful way to express that than a twenty minute HnK parody filled with megasluts and sadomasochism. Again it's not like this stuff offends me but I just can't force myself to believe it fits in any way shape or form with the presented narrative. At this point I guess it just boils down to opinion since we'll probably just end up going in circles from here.
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>>149214221

Men dont know nothing about the cervical canal and think any tube or fisheye scene is allegory of the canal
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>>149214450
>Why you can't seem to understand the concept of a "primarily" yuri show not necessarily having to use overbearing sexual imagery to get it's point across is another matter entirely.
Because without it’s yet another Kiniro Mosaic. Yuri Kuma Arashi had fanservice for the same reason, it’s important for the message. It’s essential to differentiate friends from lovers.
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>>149214450
I actually think making an exploration of BDSM sexuality the point a FoTN parody is really fucking funny, because it says as much about FoTN as it does about sex.
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>>149214438
Also worth noting that this plays into the fact that not once, but twice while bathing in episode, Cocona was uncomfortably interrupted by Papika's presence.

The first time it was external, unexpected and unwelcomed

The second time, her presence was there right from the beginning and seemingly unavoidable, and Cocona willingly interacted with her rather than dismissing her, much to her eventual enjoyment.

She's coping with the new and uncomfortable urge to play with herself in the bath/shower.

Basically, every girl gets a Papika when they're around 12 or 13 years old. She's like a physical manifestation of puberty.
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>>149214485
men are the ones making this show for the most part though
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>>149214485
Looks more like a rectal sphincter to me. Cervical canal's are overrated.
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>>149214197
why?
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>>149214438
It really is the modern Evangelion.
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>>149214526
The funny thing about Yuri Kuma Arashi is that it's not actually about yuri at all. Every fucking show uses some hackneyed metaphor for lesbian sex. Yuri Kuma Arashi uses lesbian sex as a metaphor for bullying.

Well that's my interpretation anyway, but it's really interesting to see a world where yuri is the absolute standard for everything but make out with a teddy bear and you're fucking done.
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>>149214040
Please tell me there are more of these. I can't wait to pretend that this is the artistic masterpiece anime has been waiting for.
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>>149214569
I see, so basically you're saying it's a lesbian version of this doujin.
https://exhentai.org/g/440657/1ffbb2246e/
This anime now makes a lot more sense to me.
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>>149214679
YKA was pretty great for the ways in witched it picked at social systems and institutions, but I don't think it did a very good job, in practice, of marrying its sexual imagery to its themes. It felt that a lot of the brazen nudity and intimate physical contact, especially in the earlier episodes, was thrust in for the sake of shock value more than anything else. The prevalence of that type of imagery also sharply declined as the series went on. It felt more like a disposable metaphor that jumped out at you occasionally and unexpectedly than a sustained conceit trying itself inextricably to the message of the show. And, I think a lot of that had to do with Ikuhara adjusting his creative vision poorly to the limitations of a single cours.
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>>149214679
No matter how you interpret it, it’s always about love, homosexual or not, and it acknowledges the sexual aspects of it. That puts it in stark contrast even with shows like Locodol that on one hand often mention sex (mostly in the form of dirty jokes) but never show anything, never make it the theme of the show.
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>>149214869
Yeah I guess you're right, in the end YKA is still about nonstandard sexuality, which is why a lot of its "fanservice" is still on point. It just uses the yuri aspect of it in exactly the opposite way this would usually be done.
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>>149214569
There’s a third bath in the episode, actually, and Cocona clearly wants to join in.
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SHIRANAI
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>>149214438
>>looks in a totally not vagina
That's right, it look like a butthole.
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>>149197187
>>149198282
Hoo, my little pretty one, my pretty one
When you gonna give me some time, Cocona?
Hoo, you make my motor run, my motor run
Gun it comin' off of the line, Cocona
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>>149214977
That doesn’t exactly make it less sexual.
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>>149213919
Really? Because I feel like they just crashed right into eachother and their relationship has progressed far too fast in such a short amount of time. I think they've known eachother for about a couple days by this point and it seems they're already madly in love and think of nothing but eachother.
>>149213883
You know there's still a chance of that happening. The show can go in literally any direction at this point so there's no telling whether or not it'll turn into an infodump later to shed some light on what we've seen.
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>>149214950
>tfw it's the middle of a busy day and your mind suddenly wanders to anticipating the fap you'll have when you finally get home.
Man, all this discussion is bringing back puberty memories. Girls are lucky they don't raise a 6inch billboard advertising their arousal publicly during puberty.
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>>149214485
Those are butts, anon. I hate to tell you.
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>>149214977
That only makes it more lewd
And it's not the first time that penetrative butthole imagery has cropped up in this show, either.

Cocona is a naughty girl!
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>>149195011
flopping
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>>149215006
>I think they've known eachother for about a couple days by this point and it seems they're already madly in love and think of nothing but eachother
Both have gone through some shit.
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when are they going to slap their flip flaps or is that only in the doughgins
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>>149214076
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>>149215186
Saved.
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>>149215006
Nah, there won’t be infodumps. The show might or might not make its imagery explicit at some point, but the deeper you go in this analysis, the less you even can make it explicit. There won’t be a cut to a billboard in sex ed explaining female puberty.

At worst you’ll see Salt explaining that Cocona and Mimi were the same person all along and that this was about saving Cocona or something along those lines. 30 seconds of monologue supported by more fancy studio pablo backgrounds.
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>>149215006
>I feel like they just crashed right into eachother and their relationship has progressed far too fast in such a short amount of time
That's a valid point and if you find any merit in these posts >>149214569 >>149214438 it could still be considered natural in that the urges that come with puberty can hit you when you least expect it or perhaps even love at first sight. So their interactions could be described as forced but at the very least there is an explanation for the speedy development, even if it isn't particularly strong.
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>>149215297
The fear isn't that it's going to go and spell out that it was about puberty, the fear is that it will eventually start taking its overt setting really seriously, to the point where they start expositing about the mechanics of Pure Illusion and what the various factions want.

This fear is completely warranted because that's what happened to Kaiba.
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>>149215397
Well then the former fear is also warranted because that's what happened to Kyousougiga.
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>>149215397
>the fear is that it will eventually start taking its overt setting really seriously, to the point where they start expositing about the mechanics of Pure Illusion and what the various factions want
Let's hope we won't have to nuke them again.
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>>149215316
If you want to keep with the puberty allegory then you could at least see it less as two people instantly becoming superbestfriends and more like children beginning to come to terms with changes in their circumstances that are wholly beyond their control and understanding that some things have to be dealt with if you want the positive returns they can offer.

In this case, Cocona and Papika foremost need one another to enter PI, and Cocona finds herself enjoying PI adventures and desiring to return. They are partners, and their relationship is a means to an end, and as a means, co-operation of some degree is completely rational. That it develops beyond pure utility is, in some sense, a sign of them maturing.

Sometimes life visits unwelcome change upon us, and the ability to take that change and find some way to turn it to your benefit is definitely a part of growing up, especially for teenagers.
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>>149215397
>things will be revealed
>in muh fun things are fun show
Oh no!
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>>149215006
>>149215316
I’m not sure their relationship has even progressed very far at all. Cocona is just now getting to the point where she finds Papika not annoying. The only thing that progressed fast is that Cocona had to accept the setting without exposition just like the viewer did.
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>>149215484
well put anon
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>>149214438
I fucking told you, it's FLCL with lesbians.
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>>149215506
Revealing things is not the same thing as dropping (needless) exposition.

That said if they were ever going to do that, they probably would have done so at the start.
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>>149214040

this is HIGHLY DANK
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>>149215484
If Pure Illusion is now 100% a metaphor for sex, I sure do want to see how next episode's horror theme plays into that.
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>>149215680
Vagina dentata, never again
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>>149215680
uuuuuuh

ep 1: sweet, cuddly playful sex
ep 2: reproductive sex
ep 3: nasty BDSM sex
ep 5: sex gone wrong?????
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If both Cocona and Papika want sex, how will that affect Pure Illusion?
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>>149215813
It manifests as a love hotel and we get 10-18 minutes of them having very tender, virginal lovemaking.
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>>149215921
>hotel
>implying Papika knows that

It would be a wide open field and theyll just bang right there, with the sky as their witness.
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>>149215813
Close your eyes, listen to this webm, and imagine it yourself
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1477584097702.webm
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>>149213752
It's good. Not top 3 this season but definitely good.
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>>149215800
>ep 1: sweet, cuddly playful sex

until you find out that there's huge snowy caterpillars in your girlfriend's vagina.
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>>149215989
And they gave her a good tongue-lashing alright.
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>>149203573
Probably the best one after episode 1.
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>>149215985
you should check the strawpoll on /a/ its number 1 right now
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>>149214040
The next Evangelion was Re Zero though.
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guys what if they are into eachother like in a sex way I hadn't thought of this before just now
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>>149215680
Pure Illusion is already too varied to be one simple metaphor. Each world contains interesting visuals that each deserve their own interpretation.

That being said, episode 2 was clearly buildup and episode 3 was sex or some significant sexual event, and depending on how the horror episode plays out, it’s either going to fit right into that pattern or not. I’m hoping it does.
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>>149216026
Re Zero was extremely on the nose.
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>>149215984
>that moaning at the end
They did it on purpose.
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It's all beginning to make sense
ep1
>Papika goes to find Cocona after her previous unnamed partner dies (childhood? a girl that rejected her urges???)
>Cocona rejects Papika at first and is confused and scared the first time she entered PI (masturbation or urges otherwise)
>She admits it was fun after she leaves and finds the stone thing in her hands (orgasm). But she gets caught (literally)
ep2:
>Grandma is cool with it
>One day she's doing it and her pet decides to get some of that, more confusion. Urges for a hard thing to put in her mouth (benis)
ep3:
>She feels ashamed of herself after discovering fetish stuff and for a while rejects Papika (is separated from her)
>realizes she doesn't really like fetish stuff after she tries it again and can't reach orgasm (stone thing is stolen)
ep4:
>goes somewhere private and discovers vaginal/anal fingering
>something goes wrong while she's in private (hymen broken?) and she has to clean herself up, explores herself safely while bathing and then goes to masturbate again with more confidence
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>>149216025
>strawpoll
Come on newfriend.
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>>149215985
What are your top 3, out of curiosity? Flip Flip undoubtedly has my number one spot unless later episodes fall into either exposition or grimdarkness.
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>>149216066

oops looks like it's time to kill yourself
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>>149215680
The thing is that these claims are all coming from these threads, and while there is evidence in the show that can support these claims, it does not outright prove that they are correct. It comes down to interpretation.
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>>149216107
You know I'm right.
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>>149216091
I didn't say it wasn't good. It's just that there are unarguably better things airing if you have at least some taste and didn't start watching shit yesterday.
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>>149216150

I don't even think you should be alive
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>>149214040
MORE
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>>149216165
You sound like you started watching airing shit two years ago and still trust Yoshino.
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>>149215985
I've seen this post almost verbatim numerous times in these threads, never listing the top 3 that beat this show. You can have your opinion, but throwing out the "not top 3" without elaboration is provocative.
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>>149216175
why are you so upset
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>>149216066
How does the Thomasson fit into this
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>>149216066
I never thought I'd see the day where someone is arguing that an anime scene is an allegory for anal fingering.
I agree that parts of the narrative have sexual overtones, but this might be going a bit far. The show is not completely about sex, I don't even think necessarily it's the main theme.
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>>149216224
And actually mentioning shows is inciting fanbase wars.
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>>149216032
I don't feel like any of the PIs are supposed to be literal sex.
3's bondage undertones were more about the whole Freud paradigm of Id, Ego, Superego.

The bondageloli was a manifestation of Cocona's compulsion for self-denial, repressing her desires. If you want to play off of this interpretation >>149214438 then the bondageloli is basically the anti-Papika, a manifestation of Cocona's internal resistance to the influence of the drives that Papika represents. That's why much of the episode had Cocona situated as the middleman in what was ostensibly a conflict between the loli and Papika and why her compulsion under the mask was to fight and beat Papika. The desire was self-repression, and she overcame that to side with Papika in the end and defeat her overindulged superego.

That's also why when Cocona got all tsundere over Papika's "I love you," the monster came back to life. It's never truly defeated because it's a part of her, and fueled by her. She can only moderate it and keep it in balance with the other extreme, represented by Papika.

We haven't even gotten to actual sex yet. Hell, it's likely we haven't even gotten to full-blown masturbation yet, because I'm sure this show would definitely not miss the chance to represent the female orgasm in some absolutely spectacular fashion.
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>>149216066
You guy make being a sexually confused teenager sound fun.
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>>149216110
I don't think this is the kind of show that will ever come clean about its intentions. And of course it comes down to interpretations, the fact that a show is open to interpretations such as these is great in itself.
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Let's just settle this once and for all:

Should they have gay sex together?

Yes/No answers only
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>>149216252
So don't post "not top 3 this season" then?
Just say you like other shows better instead of claiming that what you like is undoubtedly 'better' than the show this thread is for.
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>>149216250
she literally enters an anus or vagina in episode 4 and it's magical.

Then something goes wrong during it and it upsets her and she's unable to ask for help.

It's either poo poo or blood. She didn't enter PI so it wasn't masturbation, just exploration.
>>149216313
She already has sex with herself frequently.
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>>149216224
>>149216317
Why are you so triggered with other person's opinion? If you are this insecure just fuck off from discussion boards then. No one cares what you think about it and you should do the same.
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>>149216274
a lot of stuff is fun if you're an anime girl
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>>149216252

>say a show isn't top tier the best
>don't want to start shitflinging!

lol
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>>149216317
top 3 isn't hard to guess, the pool of candidates is basically Yuri on Ice, 3-gatsu, Fune wo Amu, maybe Girlish Number, maybe Drifters.
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>>149216066
You are reaching really hard and I'm a big fan of the sexual themes
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>>149216264
I’m not sure we’ll ever get to full blown masturbation let alone sex, but I hope you’re right because that sounds fun as hell.
The symbolism is going to have to take a backseat to actual plot soon though, so I’m not holding my breath. Any unified theory of flap should better contain KKK in a prominent position from now on. (That’s why the bondage loli likely can’t be the anti-Papika, that’s KKK)
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That felt good Yayaka but I'm still taking Cocona to PI.
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>>149216165
And I'm not saying that other shows this season are bad. I'm simply curious as to where think Flip Flap fits and why that's so.

I don't think it's fair to say that it's an entry-level show, while it can certainly be enjoyed on that level, it also refers heavily back to styles that were more common 10 or 20 years ago. An anon in this thread even mentioned that the fight scenes and transformations look like then came out of the late 90s.
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>>149216264
I don't think bondageloli being anti-sexual or repressive makes much sense since she's so extremely sexual herself. Like, Cocona didn't stumble into a nunnery, she stumbled into an obvious lesbian BDSM orgy.
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>>149216395
See? This is the kind of shitposter who would benefit from that
Stop being so insecure and ignore opinions that don't go your way

>>149216396
This. Just use your brain
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>>149216066
I just want to add that rabbits are fertility symbols, and having your pet bunny unexpectedly show up at school, and then running all over desperately trying to hide it (despite it not really being that big of a deal, it's just a pet), feeling ashamed, trying to flee into the washroom, and all the while being doubled over and chased by a red-headed puberty allegory that she can't escape from, it like the most blatant menstrual metaphor you could make.

Episode 2 was mainly about her being on her period, probably for the first time. The PI metaphor should have been obviously, especially with Cocona being in the belly of a vacuum cleaner when her little pubertyfairy clicks the ON switch and she's suddenly cast into a whirlwind that also happens to include a white and pink polka dot-patterned wine bottle spewing viscous red liquid
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>everything is symbolism for sex

Dont people get tired of this?
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>>149216434
I don't think I'm reaching at all.

I'll have a more decisive explanation when the series is over and the symbols are cemented more. However, I think what I have now is mostly accurate. I'm avoiding things like the KKK for now because that would be reaching too hard (I'd have to really, get into rape symbolism or other pointed objects.)
>>149216527
Good point.
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>>149216384
He isn't offering anything to discuss. He's just saying "I like this show but it's not as good as these 3" and he doesn't even elaborate.
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>>149216516

any time you make a judgment about a show's quality you start the derail, even mentioning a top 3

just bailing out because you don't want your taste to be called shit is a cop out
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>>149216396
I don’t think Manime fags who think Drifters is the best would even set foot in these threads. I haven’t seen anyone call 3gatsu best anything yet, so my guess would be Yuri on Ice, Izetta and Hibike.
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>>149216542

you are on a board that is 90% sex pandering and where 90% of the people don't have sex

any show that isn't retard obvious with its themes turns into this mess, which is why anime is degenerate shit generally
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>>149216479
BDSM is usually representative of the denial of sensation and of satisfaction of your desires.
It's lewd, and anons especially are prone to immediately jump to "being tied up and dominated = cum buckets" but the intended message is typically the opposite. He's a bunch of girls, bound and gagged, quivering with desire but not having their desires met, and unable to fulfill those desires themselves. It's about repression and denial, particularly the repression and denial of urges, sexual and otherwise.
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>>149216542
Not everything, most of what happens at school is a bit more literal. Everything associated with PI or trying to enter PI is, however, symbolism for sex or something related to sex.
>>149216616
I, for one, have had much secks.
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>>149216557
>I will just throw a tantrum and cover my ears
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>>149216653

please don't bother to reply with shit that weak
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>>149216527
>I just want to add that rabbits are fertility symbols, and having your pet bunny unexpectedly show up at school, and then running all over desperately trying to hide it (despite it not really being that big of a deal, it's just a pet), feeling ashamed, trying to flee into the washroom, and all the while being doubled over and chased by a red-headed puberty allegory that she can't escape from, it like the most blatant menstrual metaphor you could make.
I never thought I'd read a sentence like this.
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>snow in episode 1 PI was sweet and she had fun playing in the snow, but when the monsters started she was scared
How do you people not see this is about masturbation.
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>>149216466
But KKK are probably seeking to use Papikana, not beat her down and make her submit.

KKK will probably be representative of the social aspect of the whole paradigm, and the role that friends/adults/the world plays in the experience. Hence the cold and mechanical motif and the fact that Papika's best friend is their main agent.
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>>149216542
it's not like the show doesn't have bits of innuendo (i mean, aside from the clear fanservice stuff)

what i don't really get is when people want to turn the ENTIRE thing into some giant all-encompassing allegory and start trying to find meanings for every single detail in every single episode. Even shows with heavy allegorical elements like FLCL or Adolescence of Utena aren't like that. Hell most fiction isn't like that, that's not how authors do themes in general, all over the world. It makes no sense and just betrays a lack of solid criteria for reading a text
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>>149216617
I still think it's more about Cocona realizing the lustful side of a relationship. It's not literally about BDSM, but BDSM is a good shorthand for a seedy kink that you can show visually very easily.

That said, this doesn't even really counter your interpretation. It could be both.
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>>149216761
It's fun
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>>149216745
So the monsters would be the good fapping feels? Makes sense. what about the lake and papika tho
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>>149216685
I won't even reply you anymore. Please put on some effort at least.
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>>149216617
But here’s the thing: Those girls were never the enemy. The enemy was the one who got a rise out of tying them up, and she didn’t even try to do that with Cocona. She did the exact fucking opposite.
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>>149216807
Cocona squirts when she orgasms
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>>149216748
They curse her. That implies they’d rather have her not exist, and it also seems like they can achieve their goal on their own just fine anyway.

KKK is the anti-Papika, the part of Cocona that wants her to conform and go to school, and not explore the world(s), overcome the death of her parents and make a hot girlfriend.
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>>149216763
I think the BDSM imagery was far too prevalent to just be a stand-in for "any old kink"
Hell, that concept art further up in the thread makes it clear that it was a conceit throughout the design of the entire episode and not exclusive to the plant vagina monster character.
That's probably why the environment was a desert in the first place.

Remember that the episode began with the vagina monster, disguiised as a villager, telling Papika she couldn't have any more water because it had to be shared and drunk only in moderation. The entire PI world was about denial of impulses and desire.
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>>149216761
Literary interpretation, especially informal ones like we're doing here, are always about throwing a lot of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. It's fun seeing a show you like in a new light, and overall pretty harmless.

The problems start when you begin thinking that you have The One True Interpretation and everyone else is wrong, and star fighting over it. We're not there (yet).
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>>149216965
>>149216802
I guess I don't see what's fun about it. All I see is people sniffing glue when there are perfectly curated LSD tabs for everyone to use
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As fun as it is to talk about an airing show, I don't know how I feel about the fact that I'll see every new episode in a sexual light from now on. I enjoyed the first 2 more in an Alice in Wonderland surrealist light.
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>>149216925
That's a very hasty conclusion to draw when we
A: know very little about the KKK yet
B: have seen virtually no interaction (or relationship whatsoever) between the KKK and Cocona.
Cocona has only interacted with the KKK indirectly through Yayaka, who is also her friend.

We don't know enough about the KKK to really make concrete conclusions, but the fact that they've been deliberately kept so separate from Cocona herself suggests that they aren't meant to be read as a primarily internal metaphor for Cocona herself.

Also if they were to represent her desire to conform to her status quo pre-Papika, then they would have had a more prominent role early on when she was still living in that status quo. So far they've only appeared briefly during their mysterious introduction at the end of episode 1, and in their primary reveal at episode 3.
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>>149217039
If the preview is anything to go by, it won't have much, if any, symbolism. It might mark the point at which the story goes a bit darker and less happy sexy time
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>>149217039
Alice in Wonderland was also pretty damn lewd, though.
Are you aware it was written as a love-letter and expression of intent by a pedophile to an underaged girl?
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>>149216941
Yes, denial of impulses and desire is the theme of the episode, no doubt about that. Not exactly of bondage loli herself though, that’s reaching. Even if you ignore that she wanted to set Cocona’s desires free, she’d still be highly hypocritical because she herself clearly follows her desires very openly. She does not represent Cocona repressing her desires, unless that is Cocona’s kink itself, which isn’t really the case.
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>>149217078
Most things we know about the KKK is purely visual, and all of that seems to point at a more order vs chaos theme, especially compared to how ramshackle FlipFlap is.

Not everything has to be related to the sexual angle, and KKK so far gives us very little reason to think that.
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>>149216761

The Utena movie had nothing gong for it her than heavy doses of empty symbolism.
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>>149216941
Another overlooked instance of BDSM imagery in the episode is how Yayaka used her grappling hook to tie up the monster.

And then make it explode with a sick air guitar move. Because it's still Flip Flappers.
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>>149217020
It's fine. As long as people don't start shitposting over it then there shouldn't be an issue. It's just another topic to talk about.
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>>149217078
>the fact that they've been deliberately kept so separate from Cocona herself suggests that they aren't meant to be read as a primarily internal metaphor for Cocona herself.
How so? I think it makes a lot of sense to separate the carnal self and the emotionless thinking self. You could make it Freudian too and it would still make sense.

Also remember that Cocona isn’t the Cocona we’re talking about here. Actually we’re talking about Mimi. Mimi is the girl this show is about and whose fragments are scattered about. If this all represents the inner workings of her, then the KKK not interacting with Cocona, just one part of her, says pretty much nothing at all.
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>>149216554
Do people really think this is the best thing this season? When did /a/ become so shit, so shallow?
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>>149217322

Do you really think your opinion matters? Tumblr really brainwashed your generation into thinking you're all special and important, huh.
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>>149217322
It must be hard to come to terms with the fact that people don't share every opinion you have
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>>149217322
Did the /a/ of yesteryear have no opinions that diverged from your own, ever? That must have been nice.
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>spacing like a retard
>mentioning tumblr out of nowhere
Please put on some effort otherwise it's not even worth my time, aniki.
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What else do you guys recommend besides Pandora and Yuri bears? I need more dorks and gay symbolism until next thursday
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>>149217290
>And then make it explode with a sick air guitar move
I can't wait to see more of this shit. Hate her if you want, but she's kind of a badass
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>>149217316
>Actually we’re talking about Mimi. Mimi is the girl this show is about
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>>149217290
I'm still not entirely clear on where that explosion actually came from
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>>149217322
>shallow
There's so much other DEEP, MEANINGFUL anime airing this season isn't there
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>>149217435
Did you ever read the description of this show?
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Migrate

>>149216419
>>149216419
>>149216419
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>>149217442
These spear things probably have a payload
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>>149217476
>Papika and Cocona hold the keys to open the door. When the two girls meet, their adventures in a different time and different overlapping dimension called "Pure Illusion" begin. Many things in Pure Illusion will stand in the girls' way on their search for the mysterious crystal called the "Shard of Mimi," an item that is said to grant any wish. However, when the girls find themselves in danger, the Shard of Mimi shines, and they are able to transform.
Huh. There's Mimi.
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>>149217529
There’s Mimi
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>>149216807
Monsters are scary feelings and losing control of yourself.
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>>149215397
>the fear is that it will eventually start taking its overt setting really seriously, to the point where they start expositing about the mechanics of Pure Illusion and what the various factions want.
Uhh they HAVE to reveal the mechanics of PI and what the factions want. Or else there will never be a plot.
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>>149216026
Evangelion was about more than Rei vs Asuka last I checked
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