When do we get the Hall of Anal Devastation for this one??

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>>149182064

going out of my limb to still salvage /a/

Report and sage /v/ tier thread bait.

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>>149182064

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>>149182064
Why didn't he go after her and tell her to stay with him?

No one gives a fuck about your shipping of characters aimed at 6 year olds get a fucking life you fat losers.

>>149185580
Where the hell do you think you are?

>>149185580
fuck off fag

>>149184840
Because she already said she wanted to get better at Hoenn and he doesn't want to hold her back.

He also let out a few episodes prior that he trusts her completely. She indirectly confesses, after goes in for kiss, and later the director comes out and kind of puts it out there that she wins.

Honestly, there's been a lot of the Pokemon threads lately.

>>149184840
Because he's an egoistic faggot, who doesn't care about staying with people that love him. All he cares about is dateraping another girl, while he becomes champion in another region.

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It'd amazing how best girl won that hard.

>>149182064
So, this eternal love thing means she will wait for satoshi to return even he cuck her with every girl in other region and that's just implying he will ever return, or that after some time she will go batshit insane and start stalking him, threat/injure any other bitch that get near her satoshi-kun and force things so he casually encounter her or rig the entire league so he finally win and fuck off with all these pokemon master shit and just settle down with her?

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>>149183832
wait for the sonogram

>>149186415
Ooh! Ooh! I know!
Is it pikachu?

So is it true that the first episode of Pokemon Sun and Moon is the Legend of XYZ? Would that possibly mean Zygarde could return and perhaps maybe Ash-Greninja (I heard it got drafted by him to be protector or something).

>>149184840
because he hasn't hit puberty yet.

once he turns 11 and becomes a daily chronic masturbator he'll regret not bagging her

>>149182064
Is it true she used anata, and that he is her goal, and that she will become a person/woman/girl when they meet up again?

>>149186326
The flowers are outside of Ash's house, so apparently they apply to him rather than her.

>shipfags are dumbfucks

Stop the presses

god damn I hate teasing so fucking much
I don't even watch the show and that webm made me mad
well at least she is going to be in the finale with his child

>>149187040
They couldn't make the kiss on-screen if they wanted to. On-the-lip kisses are typically censored for under-age characters.

>>149187113
>On-the-lip kisses are typically censored for under-age characters.
What? I think you mean children characters.

>>149182064
So she just leaves? What's the point?

>>149187279
To set up NTR doujins.

>>149185978
What a filthy whore. I hope she dies on fire burnt by braixen while she's competing for that stupidity performance competition

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The REAL hidden message

>>149187368
Could Mozart still be alive?

Serena won hard. That was the writers' intentions. I don't even ship those two but I can see the facts.

>>149187468
>>>/2008/

>>149187489
Yeah now wait for the next season where Ash won't even remember having a childhood friend

>>149187546
Is the new show an actual continuation?

>>149187546
Doesn't really matter. That's always going to happen. And since I don't ship Ash and Serena, all the better for my preferred pairing.

>>149187368
I haven't seen the movie but what did Latias do?

>>149187656
Yes, despite all memes and how bad it looks.

>>149187697
Latias had a human form of a girl. She kisses Satoshi on the cheek at the end of the movie.

>>149182064
What does Misty think about this?

>>149187903
She's fucking Tracy in Johto as of the Unova series, not that any Pokéshippers will admit it.

Serenafags still havent killed themselves?

Why?

>>149187368
This is just so sad.
Let it go ashnime faggots your anime is pure trash.

Why are some people so bitter about this? What does it matter to you that characters you don't like get shipped?

>>149187975
Why should they have the urge to do so?

>>149188068
I think it's not so much shipping as it is anger.

Just around the time when Ash was in the league finals, we saw the Sun and Moon promo and were disgusted. All the development Ash had during the X/Y series was going to be undone. Which means that the entire character of Serena was basically going to go nowhere.

>>149188538
Literally disgusting. Ash needs to shame his sun and moon mustache.

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>>149187903
>>149187903

>>149188538
I really don't understand why they're still so set on Ash being the MC when they're constantly marketing to the latest generation of children who would have less of a reason to give a shit about his continued existence than older fans, who themselves largerly just want him to be done with in any way.

But Pokemon and its Anime still make fucking gangbusters, so all of our critique just feels kind of pointless. Obviously, something is working, so why would they bother to change it?

She will be the forgotten girl of the week by next season, who cares?

>>149188987
Apparently you do.

>>149188916
>I really don't understand why they're still so set on Ash being the MC when they're constantly marketing to the latest generation of children

It's a continuity thing. Even as kids the majority of the kids audience doesn't start with XY episode 1 all the way. They pick the show somewhere in the middle, or even before that during BW late season. Pokemon is meant to be kids show like Spongebob where you can hop on board anywhere and leave the bandwagon anywhere.

>>149185921
This
>>149185921
>becomes champion

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>>149182064
>its narusaku all over again

>>149188987
You and all the others that seem awfully set on constantly making sure everyone knows how extremely little you supposedly care about this seem to care a whole lot.

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>>149185978
>anime Serena
>best girl

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Also, we got some new Gouguru comic translations yesterday

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>>149190986

>>149190941
>liking Sakura

>>149190969
Ow, my virgin eyes

>>149191004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x3eSkGu__8

>>149188901
That joke doesn't work since Ash and Serena met when they where kids and she was the same age as Ash during Kalos.
Either that or she shares the same decease as him.

>>149191505
That, and older characters do return occasionally without having aged in the slightest. Brock's youngest siblings are still toddlers in all four episodes they appeared in, and those were spread across 14 years.

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http://m.imgur.com/gallery/XcMWY

http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4/#0

Honestly this is probably the only reason I still watch anime and read manga

The unending salt

>>149186441
The Legend of XYZ is not the first episode of Sun & Moon, it's a side story episode similar to those Mega Evolution specials that focuses on characters other than Ash but is still part of XY as a whole.

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>>149191666
I'm dying.

I hope this faggot was a Mistyfag too.

all this thread doesnt matter since they are going to go full retard with the new saga.

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>>149191035
>>liking Sakura

>>149191666
Didn't some German kid kill himself over that

>>149191852
>H-Hinata winning desn't matter because Boruto looks shitty
This sounds familiar

>>149191934
No, but some Russian faggot killed himself over Itachi dying.

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>>149186427
Correct! Here's your prize.

>>149191854
I like Sakura. Duh, to be honest, I like all girls from Naruto. She just has noe well written character development and background, as many supporting chars in manga.
But too much devoted shippers are funny. As fuck.

>>149190956
That one's hilarious.

>>149182064

>Baby’s breath flower
>Gypsophila
>カスミソウ
>Kasumi
>Misty

Confirmed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsophila

>>149193022
>N-Naruto r-really loves S-Sakura

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>>149187546

He still lost the league and ditched her like every other girl, he'll never age beyond 10. It's a company mandate.

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>>149193518

>>149193576
The only ones salty are the anime team for ever thinking they could create some form of lasting impact on the pokemon anime.

This thread alone seems to have a decent amount of material for the hall already.

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I looked at /vp/. There's actual, real Mistycucks trying to do damage control over there. Apparently they've been at it for days, too.

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Does the animu team even remember Misty?

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>>149193905
They do.

She got a short voiced appearance in a flashback montage that detailed Ash's history with his Charizard three years ago too.

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>>149187903

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>Bleachfags are now invading other threads with their cancer

Why God, why? Just stay in your fucking containment threads.

>>149195124
que

>>149193986
Pretty funny how Misty stopped getting real episode appearances as early as 2005. Back then May was the only other female companion, I wonder if they knew even back then they would never use Misty in a role ever again?

Back when AG was airing it felt like Misty still had some presence in the series due to her specials and cameos.

>>149186326
>rig the entire league so he finally win and fuck off with all these pokemon master shit
Let's be honest, would you even blame her at this point?

>>149193986
>Tracey
Jesus, talk about shit taste in boys.

>>149196401
Most of her appearances after she left the group did legitimately try to push that pairing somewhat. Might as well.

Does Kasumifags really exist? I mean I don't understand why would they want Kasumi to win.

How many of you gave up on pokemon long before XY happened then picked it back up because of Serena's flufiness and the awesome battles?

>>149196734
LASfags.

>>149196734
Not Kasumifags, but Mistyfags do. The dub created them by heavily rewriting dialogue.

>>149196804
Me. Then Alan happened and left after the league, but with all this kiss thing I think I will finish the rest of the episodes before leaving Pokemon for good; SM looks like shit honestly.

>>149196916
Every episode between the league and the finale was pretty mediocre, you genuinely didn't miss much.

Subs fell pretty far behind too due to massive disinsterest in the Flare shit.

>>149197014
Team Flare attack is literally the best evil team arc they've ever done. While that might not say much, it's far from mediocre. People are just assblasted by the league loss.

>>149197014
What the hell are you talking about? The Flare arc was the best villain team arc in the series.

Subs only fell behind because the person who does them is busy studying law.

>>149196916
>SM looks like shit honestly
Derpy Satoshi aside, it looks plenty of fun with great semen demons.

Eternal love, yes. Eternal unrequited love.

>>149197165
>>149197193
That type of hardcore villain drama has seriously never suited Pokemon.
When each arc consists of 150+ episodes of lighthearted adventure with occasional character-centric drama, short mini arcs about saving the world from insane murderers just feel out of place. It's just not what people watch the series for.
Give me that episode about Eureka befriending a dinosaur and feeling sad about having to return it to the lab where it belongs any day. THAT's the kind of drama and stakes I want in this show.

>>149197233
Eh, I'm not a fan of kodomo comedy, and I'd rather watch other shows in search of semen demons. Or fap to some porn pics, I don't know.

>>149182064
Why are people saying she won?
We all know Ash is going to forget all about her next season when he finds the next random slut that sustain his eternal youth.
If she actuallly went with him to alola then I would call that a win, but right now she isn't any better than his other cumdumps.

>>149197291
You see that kind of drama in the movies all the time. And the Flare arc is exactly what people wanted out of villain team arcs for years. Same reason Hunter J and Galactic were praised.

People wanted competent villains in the pokemon anime since practically the beginning of the shows history. Its the same reason people were so disappointed with Magma/Aqua in the show, why people wanted more of Team Rocket as an organization and not just J/J/M.

>>149197330
>this salt

>>149197358
But if people actively preferred this kind of drama with that kind of heavy stakes, the show wouldn't confine it to short arcs and have the extreme majority of the show be lighthearted adventure, anon. Like it or not, that kind of adventure is what most regular viewers watch it for, because that's what they're watching 95% of the time.

>>149197464
I am not salty I never even watched XY.
I am hust wondering why this get spammed and hyped eventhough her fate is no different than any other girl ash traveled with.

>>149197575
>But if people actively preferred this kind of drama with that kind of heavy stakes,
Just because everyone wants something doesn't mean that's what they're going to be given.

>>149197602
Shippers, anon.

>>149197291
Tell that to the games, they've done it since forever, and the anime has just downplayed them all the time. This is the first time they actually made the evil team better in the anime than in the actual game.

And who are you to say what people want or don't want from Pokémon? Why would people who loved the feelsy Bonnie episodes be less susceptible to heavy drama with higher stakes? Especially if they are invested in the characters enough to actually enjoy it, maybe even thanks to previously mentioned feelsy episodes? Why would higher stakes just be out of place when the show's had plenty drama before that's been anything but lighthearted?

Whatever, it's all thrown away with SM now so it will probably be all good for you.

>>149197602
Same reason Hinata winning Naruto and Orihime winning Ichigo got "spammed and hyped".
Best girl won, most fans are happy as fuck, and butthurt supporters of some other pairing are doing hilariously salty damage control.

Try reading some of these threads to realize why this is a big deal.

>>149197718
Anon, my point is that when Pokemon is 99% comfy adventure and 1% dramatic showdown with evil masterminds, fans of the shows are pretty obviously watching it for the adventure shit. Those evil team showdowns are super rare, nobody is actually watching the show just to wait for them to eventually come around once every 3 years.

That's all.

>>149197847
>Hinata winning Naruto and Orihime winning Ichigo got "spammed and hyped".
Yeah, but unlike Hinata and Orihime she didn't get married to him or beared his children.
She just kisses him and then just kind of fucks off forever.
I would hardly call that winnning a bowl.

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>>149197251
Literally Kasumi.

>>149197970
>they enjoy this aspect of the show
>therefore they simply can't enjoy this different aspect at the end of the series

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>>149185795
>Honestly, there's been a lot of the Pokemon threads lately.
New gen in 3 weeks It has only just begun

>>149198019
It's seriously just you not getting it, anon. Read some of the archived threads about this. Look at the reaction it got in fan communities. Look at the normie media reporting on this.

This IS a big deal on the same scale as those other two.

>>149197575
>>149197970
You have to consider that the audience that actually counts in the ashnime are elementary school japanese children.

>>149198156
>ashnime

>>149198097
Not my point, anon. They're okay as occasional departures from the norm, but if people wanted these things over anything else, they'd be a lot more common. BW did multiple completely anime-original Team Rocket arcs with dramatic showdowns to conclude them, there's nothing stopping them from doing that on a regular basis beyond "the audience seems to prefer more relaxed shit".

>>149197309

Porn always taste better when you get to know the characters anon.

http://imgur.com/a/Arakf

>>149197330
>Why are people saying she won?
Winning is a meme. What she did matches the meme : she won.

>>149191813
quick someone post gai talking about how great reading the narusaku salt

>>149189013
>>149190930

I really don't give a shit, I'm amazed people are so buttmad about shipping in Pokemon when Ash can't even win a league, he's never gonna grow up and he's never gonna fuck anybody

>>149191937
That's not even comparable, mate

>>149198673
I'm pretty sure I saw that exact post a bunch back then.

>>149198119
It really isn't

>>149198334
That still doesn't mean that the more dramatic heavy stakes episodes or arcs are bad by default. It's all about how they're handled. It's funny you mention BW when few, even among the actual fans, liked it as a whole. I too watched Team Rocket be all awesome and shit and I didn't really mind, but the small arcs revolving around them weren't always that interesting.

Team Flare attack had at the very least half a year's worth of buildup, not counting the fact that the XY specials where Lysandre were present and already working behind the curtains aired well a year in advance of the attack arc. It was on a whole different scale from anything they've done since Team Galactic, and even that was dwarfed in comparison.

>>149198709
Boruto being shitty? Yeah. Saying Pokemon resets the girls every few seasons is not the same as a sequel being shitty.

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Congratulatons Serena, here is your prize!

>>149198759
You seem to misunderstand, anon. I'm not saying it wasn't handled well for what it was, because it was. But the actual 5 episode dramatic finale isn't what Pokemon usually is about, and it's not the kind of episodes people actually watch the show to see.

I'm not saying you can't enjoy it. I'm just saying most fans tend to prefer more laid-back shit, which is why the show primarily consists of laid-back shit.

>>149198213
Saying "Pokemon anime" every time I want to refer to it grows tiresome. Ashnime is shorter, easy to remember and is a good pun.

>>149185921
he's a fucking 10 year old, any small kid would prefer eternal glory and fame instead of some random bitch

>>149198995
Why not just anime? This is a pokemon thread after all.

>>149198995
Just "anime" is even shorter. Or to just write "AG", "DP, "XY" or whatever if you're referring to a specific subseries.

>>149198800
And still, the type of "it doesn't mean anything because...", "it doesn't matter because...", "why are you happy about this don't you know that..." etc posts are all basically the same kind of salty damage control we got back then from people trying really hard to downplay that the girl they didn't like won.

>>149198995
It's also a very good way to make your post look like it's saying "I hate the Pokemon anime and whatever I'm saying is just an irrelevant shitpost", so you might want to stop if you want actual replies to your posts. It's a word very heaily associated with shitposts.

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>>149182064
>In the ensuing years, Serena will grow into a 5'11" beauty who's hit on by many men, one of which she will inevitably take
>Ash will grow to be a 5'9" manlet at best and continue to be a failure in every respect

Not even a Pokefag, but poor Ash

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>>149182064
>that shit quality

>>149199949
Ash has saved the world numerous times.

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>>149199949

>>149200406
Wrong thread, cancer poster.

>>149200494
Your tears are delicious.

>>149200494
This whole thread is shipping cancer and it must be even worse on /vp/.

>>149201001
>thread about best girl winning and salty reactions to it is full of discussion about the girl winning
It's almost like that's the subject, salt-kun.

>>149201566
Shipping threads are cancer you cancerous fuck.

>>149201832
Any reason you keep sitting here and posting in them over and over just to make it known that some random anon thinks so?

>>149201906
So he won't get confused and think this thead is not cancer.

>>149202023
>thread is about best girl winning
>faggot thinks threads about best girls winning are cancer
>keeps spamming that over and over so people won't confuse the thread for not being about a best girl winning
Seems rather unnecessary.

>>149202151
Thread is about a ship, this alone makes it cancer. This is not /vp/.

>>149202256
Yes, you already said that. You're still spending a considerable amount of time sitting here posting to make sure people know it's about a ship despite not liking such threads and apparently hating the fact that somewhere on /a/ there are people talking about things you don't like.

>>149202352
I only replied to the guy to correct him then you replied me for no some reason, so I replied back to you. It's not rocket science anon.

>>149202476
You've still spent nearly an hour sitting in this thread explaining to anyone that might come across it what the thread is about despite apparently hating what it's about, as opposed to posting in threads about things you care about.

Do you need a hug, anon?

>>149202566
What? I only replied once to that guy and somehow I'm now explaining to anyone what the thread is about when you are the only one replying to me. Stop projecting.

>>149200494
>>149200717
>>149201001
>>149201832
>>149202023
>>149202256
>>149202476
>>149202667
Calm your tits nigger.

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>>149182064
Hope you keep up with One Piece.
>before current arc, LuNa was a popular pairing
>SaNa a much more smaller circle than even some others (Frobin, Zotash)
>current arc has Sanji captured to get married
>SaNa crowd gets bigger
>LuNa fans get angry, start crosstagging Tumblr
>starts a fandom war
>pic related

>>149199105
Dude, I don't ship in Pokemon.

The only one assblasted here is you because you are pissy some of us don't think any girl will "win" the dick of an eternal 10 year old that will get a new model by next season. This is not a new "naruto" or "bleach" you are just trying to make it be one because you want to fap to the idea of winning.

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>yfw Serena returns to Alola after a few episodes

Notice how Ash has no real companions to go around? The other Alolan kids are just there to hold the line until Serena returns.

>>149202925
>I-I'm not mad, y-you are

Was it Misty or Dawn you wanted to win?

>>149203002
I don't even remember Misty much and I didn't even check the seasons with Dawn, but you seem unable to accept the idea that people don't ship anything in an anime aimed at preteens.

>>149202925
You sound hilariously salty, anon.

>>149203070
>>149203002
> You must be a salty shipperfag if you don't like my otp

This is what you sound like

Alan x Manon OTP

>>149203162
>goes into thread about best girl winning and starts damage controlling hard about how much you supposedly don't care and how retarded everyone are for doing so
This sounds extremely familiar.

Here's a tip, the people that genuinely don't give a shit aren't sitting here making post after post about how incredibly much they totally don't care.

>>149185978
Ash didn't even blush. He's truly a neutered permavirgin.

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>>149203259
They canonized that one pretty hard too.

It was cute. Only thing about Alan that didn't suck.

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Well, I mean yeah, Serena won and all but is it even necessary to ask for shit like:
>When do we get the Hall of Anal Devastation for this one??
Then make threads about them?

>>149203420
They slapped it with the eye shimmer after instead.

>>149203162
Nobody asked you whether or not you liked it though. You keep reminding us which is why you look salty.

>>149203494
It does appear it could genuinely deserve one, though: >>149193807
If this kind of damage control is common, then there's seriously a lot of fun to be had.

Don't know which forums to look at though. Where do Mistycucks hang out these days?

>>149203494
newfags wanting to recreate something they weren't a part of. nothing new here

>>149203494
Shitposting. Why go to /a/ when there is a pokemon board where you can find all the material you need?

>>149187113
Is this a new rule or something? I could have sworn I've seen cartoons as a kid where kids kiss. It's nothing lewd or anything it just seems innocent.

If anything it says how perverted people are that they sexualize puppy love.

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>>149203750
Well, I mean, I've seen some of it but honestly, I just don't see the point of doing it now. Japan's celebrating, the director says she won, they animated the kissing scene and gave Ash the eye sparkle.

Just seems somewhat unnecessary.

>>149203895
The direction and more realistic character models play a huge role in it. Japan also treats kissing, specially in media, as a far more serious matter than the west does.

>>149203895
It's a common thing in anime actually.

>>149203977
It's literally the same reason as the other times, though.
>Hinata wins Naruto, Sakurafags get hilariously asshurt
>Orihime wins ichigo, Rukiafags get hilariously asshurt
>Serena wins Ash, Mistyfags (and Dawnfags?) get hilariously asshurt

It's the same thing. I don't particularly care if people make one or not, I didn't make this thread, but I don't see any reason to actively protest the idea.

>>149204151
Why is it that people ship the hardest in shows in which romance isn't a relevant aspect?

>>149204151
Well, what's bothering me is really all the threads being made lately, truth be told. It's why I also asked "why" and some anons kind of gave it to me already. I'll just leave it at that.

>>149204229
I assume that's the reason, actually. Little focus on romance in the show proper means there's more room for headcanon.
And then, when the show actually does introduce romance elements, the people that had been really into their completely self-invented pairing get really mad that the show went a different direction.

The Serena romance angle has been a subplot for three years now, and there's been damage control from those types of people all those years.

>>149203002
Why do people ship eternal 10 year old kids anyways? Literally what is the appeal if they are too young they can't even show a kiss?

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>>149204528
Because is cute as fuck

>>149204528
Well, they show kisses all the time, it's just that it's always on the cheek, even for adult characters.

Not showing's a common thing.

>>149204528
It's cute. Don't overthink it.

>>149200259
That was cute, glad she won

>>149204151
What about >>149202784, anon?

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>>149204528
I don't know, I just shipped the Doragon Kuraw idiot with his personal loli and I feel it like a victory

>tfw the Manaphy movie turned me into an advanceshipper

I was at least smart enough to not take it seriously since I knew May wasn't coming back but it still bums me out a little

>>149205137
She was also in the middle of a romance subplot with that green haired faggot at the time, so it was clear that wasn't going anywhere.

>>149200259
what happened? It's hard to tell since the camera cuts away and then goes to their feet. did they fuck?

>>149205712
>It's hard to tell since the camera cuts away
It's on purpose to tell you she kissed Ash on the lips. Translated, she won the Satoshi.

>>149205712
She kissed him on the lips. It's really blatant.

>>149204528
Might as well ask why people shipped anyone in Bleach when the series ended a couple pages after it got canonized and they had to toss in a timeskip to show the victory anyway.

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>>149205002
You should. They didn't exactly give you a kiss like they did with Ash and Serena, but that shit was pretty fucking canonized as well.

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>>149207019
That pairing is adorable

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>>149207748

>>149208031
>>149207748
His cock must be huge compared to her 1 inch clit

>>149208120
Part of the appeal

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tfw I was a Naruhinafag, Ichihime and a Seretoshifag

>>149208718
>Seretoshi
That's a new one

"Satosere", for the record

I prefer game Serena.

>>149208862
They were calling it that way in 2ch. Seresato or Satosere sounded too dull.

>>149182064
It's not the same, so no, Hall of Anal Devastation would be a no. In fact, thanks to how they started wrapping the series up, one could make an ANTI-SatoSere collage. He only got a kiss that they didn't even show. Literally zero caring, and then back to muh battle afterword.

If I was a Serena shipper, I'd be mad at how XYZ is ending.

>>149208895
Really? Odd. All the fanart and porn on pixiv is Satosere, at least

Enjoy some cute:
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=%E3%82%B5%E3%83%88%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AC

>>149208979
You were a Sakuracuck, weren't you?

>>149208988
>Pixiv
Get with the times, grandpa

>>149209032
So where is your grand repository? Tumblr?

>>149209079
No. You seem mad though

>>149208979
>one could make an ANTI-SatoSere collage
The only people that could even try making that are pretty much faggots being in denial still that Serena was made the winner.

>kiss
>Ash reaction of anime eye shimmer
>director's message

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>>149208718
>tfw I've never shipped anything in my whole life

>>149187716
How are people sure that it was Latias, I always thought there was a 50% chance of being the girl. I mean, the only physical difference between them was the hat, and shortly before the scene they show that nobody was wearing the hat, which meant that it could've been either of them. I watched this movie a long time ago, so I might be a bit hazy on the details.

>>149209107
I'm not mad, I was wondering. And I see you didn't answer either.

>>149209236
Kanon/Bianca didn't care about Ash and it was Latias getting friendly with Ash.

>>149209236
Bianca didn't show interest in Ash during the movie, Latias did. It's evidence enough.

>>149209236
A lot of it has to do with the fact that Latias was really really into Satoshi, while Kanon spent most of the movie thinking he was downright annoying. Most people that say it was up to interpretation tend to forget that last bit. This was not a girl it made much sense for to do something like that.

>>149201001
You have no fucking idea. I ran out from /vp/ completely even though I really wanted to discuss the SM game just so I can avoid the amourshippers. It's like as if IchiRuki and NaruSaku shippers had an autistic lovechild.

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>>149209382
I saw those threads on /vp/. The ones still making a bunch of threads are the IchiRuki and NaruSaku love child (pokeshippers) or shitposters falseflagging the fuck out of /vp/. People still talk about the games.

>>149209382
>/vp/ catalog has literally zero threads about this, everything is in the anime general, which is obviously not for discussing the games
>comparing fans of the pairing that won to the fans of the damage controlling fans of the pairings that lost

I think you can try harder than this, anon.

>>149209382
the exact same day the finale happened new SM info got dropped, which took over much more of the board's discussion, so i have no idea what you're on about. avoid /vp/ for other reasons the shipfags are contained to the anime general.

>>149209611
>i have no idea what you're on about
It's the most blatant falseflag I've seen. Come on, anon.

If we make a hall, I think this needs to go there >>149209382

>>149200406
>"best girl"
>in Nurutu series
All Nardo girls (kunoishits) are god awful. Sakura is literally pure cancer. Jesus Ninja just dodged shit but still married another crap.
He should have become like Jiraiya, travelling all over the Ninja world, helping some people and dicking around.

>>149209662
there was maybe 3 threads on amourfaggotry compared to the dozens on the starters at the time, so no, i have no idea what you were on about and i have no idea how the amourfags were difficult to avoid.

>>149210259
Anon. I meant the guy you replied to, not you.

>>149209382
Except Serena kinda won, unlike Sakura and Rukia.

>>149211873
His bait also kind of disregards the fact that nobody were talking about this in any of the threads that were actually about the games, which was about 90% of /vp/ even at the height of kisshype.

>Serena had to make the first move
>first time in years the thing he won was something he wasn't even active in
Least the girl got to first and second base before being written away by the rest. That's nice.

Never understood how shipping became so autistic with Pokemon out of all things. Never followed but guys clinging to the most random stuff confused me.

>>149212352
Kissing in Japan's more like getting to third base and also the director kind of points out that she won him.

Truth be told, she can still get cameo(s).

I don't understand why people are trying to force this into being another Naruto/Bleach ending.

On /vp/ there were more people who dislike shipping in general hating the kissing scene/ending of XY than "mad <another girl>shippers". And even then, there were a lot more threads dedicated to "laugh at the mad people who got BTFO" than actual celebration threads. /padt/ thought those threads were just falseflagger shitposters, but I'm starting to think they were legit.

And yet, people keep making threads on both boards about how "everyone is salty and mad hahaha" over it.

I just don't understand why. Serena got as far as any other character in the show will get in terms of romance. Can't amourfags simply be happy about that and move on with their lives instead of trying to artificially force a shipping war that doesn't even exist?

>>149212352
>Never understood how shipping became so autistic with Pokemon out of all things. Never followed but guys clinging to the most random stuff confused me.
The show has had two legit romance subplots in its entire 20 year run, and the first one didn't even involve Satoshi (instead it was Haruka/Shuu). That's a lot of time for people to make up headcanons for a Satoshi pairing they think could potentially be cute only to get mad when the show actually does create a romance subplot involving him and a newly introduced character.

It's autistic, but the kind of people that latched onto those kind of headcanon pairings that never actually existed in the show really aren't the kind of people that would frequent 4chan so you didn't see much of it here. Most of the "competing ships" you saw people bring up here (Satoshi/Citron probably being the most popular) was just people fucking around and having fun, while knowing fully well that it never existed in the show and that the show was clearly pushing Satoshi/Serena.

>>149212634
>(instead it was Haruka/Shuu)
If that barely existent plot threat counts as a "romance subplot" there's been more than two.

>>149209079
Not him but maybe twitter.

>>149212588
I can try answering a couple of these

>On /vp/ there were more people who dislike shipping in general hating the kissing scene/ending of XY than "mad <another girl>shippers".
This is true, the mad Mistyfags and whatnot were mostly confined to tumblr, twitter or various other forums. As >>149212634 says the kind of people that are actively invested in pairings that only exist in their heads don't really go to 4chan. People that dislike romance plots so much they get mad about them going somewhere are fags too, though. And lumping everything from "headcanon pairings between people that never met" to "genuine subplots three years in the making" under the same "shipping" umbrella never made sense to me. People that liked the Ash/Serena pairing liked something that was actually in the show, people that liked the Ash/May pairing etc just liked something they made up.

>And even then, there were a lot more threads dedicated to "laugh at the mad people who got BTFO" than actual celebration threads. /padt/ thought those threads were just falseflagger shitposters, but I'm starting to think they were legit.
Most of them definitely were. Most people genuinely interested in discussing the anime tend to actually stay in the general and discuss it with other people that like it. And if you're not aware, /vp/ has a number of autists that really really furiously hate the anime and spend ungodly amounts of time spamming and shitting down those generals as much as they can, and it's not exactly beyond that kind of posters to make new threads just to make anime fans look annoying.

>Can't amourfags simply be happy about that and move on with their lives instead of trying to artificially force a shipping war that doesn't even exist?
I don't think anyone are forcing a "shipping war", really. It's laughing at damage control at best.

>>149212839
Which are you referring to? Satoshi/Lila and Satoshi/Aoi? In that case, the former didn't even exist until the last few seconds of Lila's one and only appearance, and while Satoshi/Aoi was pushed slightly, it was a pretty throwaway deal and it was fairly clear this wasn't a character that was going to return.

Haruka/Shuu lasted throughout the entire AG arc, and while it may have been "barely existent" at first, it got pushed really really hard the last year, and concluded with the two of them traveling to another region together. It was considered "the only truly canon ship in the series" for ages until XY came along with SatoshiSerena and to a lesser extent Alan/Manon.

>>149182064
>Hall of Anal Devastation
That doesn't work because unlike Naruto and Bleach, Pokémon spent years building up a romantic subplot involving only two characters, with no potential rivals involved.

Naruto x Hinata and Ichigo x Orihime, despite being teased during most to their series, also shared the spotlight with Naruto x Sakura and Ichigo x Rukia pandering. Until the last chapters there were still reasons for shipperfags to cling to the ships that would eventually lose.

What does Pokémon even have? Some light and non-serious shipping hints 15 years ago (most of which was dub-only), followed by absolutely nothing but the fans' delusions for over a decade, and then finally blatant romantic elements being introduced 3 years ago.

There are barely any mad Mistyfags because most of those people don't even watch the show anymore. There aren't many mad May/Dawnfags because only turbo autists would think those pairings would become canon. For years now pretty much every shipperfag was a Serenafag. You can't make fun at the people who "lost" if they weren't even competing anymore.

>>149213288
>For years now pretty much every shipperfag was a Serenafag.
This is true.

>only turbo autists would think those pairings would become canon
This is also true, but the other two halls were filled with turbo autists anyway

>There are barely any mad Mistyfags. There aren't many mad May/Dawnfags.
This is not true. And that's the fun part.

>>149213097
>I don't think anyone are forcing a "shipping war", really. It's laughing at damage control at best
Dude look at this thread. Most posts saying this whole shipping war is stupid, or that shipping in pokémon is meaningless, just get the generic "lol u SO MAD" and "SALTY" replies. Granted they could be just a couple of shiposters too

Still, there's not even damage control going on. It's a fact that this show doesn't care enough about continuity for Serena's victory to mean anything for now

Though I still think that if they ever decide to make Ash marry someone, even if it's 50 years from now, Serena still has good chances, since I don't think they'd make a romantic subplot ever again

Kek. That won't satisfy me anyway. I'm still butthurt that the edgy faggot beat his mutant frog.

>>149213498
So you got screenshots of these freakouts? Is it as bad as every other shonen hall of anal devastation?

>>149213498
>There are barely any mad Mistyfags. There aren't many mad May/Dawnfags.
>This is not true
I saw literally two mad Dawnfags in the 20+ threads I saw on /vp/. And like 90% of the Mistyfags clearly didn't even watch the show anymore, as I said.

I actually think I saw more Ash x Mistyfags tears when they said in the last episode of BW that Tracey was visiting her in Cerulean.

Then again, I don't browse tumblr or twitter so I don't get to see the real shipping cancer. But if you find going to those places just to witness their autism fun, to each their own I guess.

>>149214029
Yeah, the kind of people that were into non-Serena Ash ships are the kind of people that don't go to /vp/.
And
> But if you find going to those places just to witness their autism fun, to each their own I guess.
I don't. I only know they've there because I've seen people post some links.

>>149214000
From what I heard (I didn't go digging and nobody posted screenshots) this Dawnfag place is in full mad damage control at the moment: http://pearlshipping-vault.boards.net/
Take a look if you want.

>>149213755
I'm pretty sure a lot of those early posts are the usual "I hate Pokemon and people discussing it on /a/ makes me see red" faggots that come into practically every Pokemon thread we've had just to make it very clear how much they want people to stop talking about things they don't like.

We had multiple Pokemon threads here that Thursday and the next Friday, and they were mostly people being really happy about the kiss, with one of them getting a bunch of really mad and really pathetic damage control that I'm not sure if was a shitposter or a mad Mistyfag.

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>There are people who think that Serena kissing Ash means that she won
By that logic, does that mean that I win my best friend if I kiss her on the lips, even if she doesn't love me back or only treats me as a friend? To be brutally honest, Amourshipping logic is very illogical for me. Kissing =/= winning. If someone else kissed Ash on the lips, would it mean that person won Ash as well?

>>149214406
I guess we found someone that's mad.

>>149214497
Yes I'm mad that Amourfags are getting ahead of themselves. We get it, she kissed Ash on the lips. They don't have to throw that fact down every single person's throat on /vp/ and /a/, especially since she's gone anyway. If she literally won and was endgame now and she and Ash canonically married now, it would have made sense, but as it stands, she's just destined to be the next Misty, May, Dawn, and Iris.

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>all those walls of text just to talk about a kiss in a kid's cartoon
>when all this romance shit will completely ignored once the next season starts, along with all the character development that happened during the series
Fucking autists. Commit sudoku immediately.

Dawn x Cynthia is the only ship that matters

>>149214556
Except for the director's comment about the flowers.

>>149214556
You are seriously oozing salt. Look at yourself.

>>149214603
The director just teasing the shippers. It's a well-known fact that the director is a shipper and had been doing teases ever since XY began. Doesn't change the fact that Serena's gone, though. Are shippers really ignoring the fact that the best they can hope for is a short arc where she visits Alola, ala May or Dawn?

>>149214406
>>149214556
Even the Director came out with the whole flower shtick.

Or are you just saying this because you used to do Ash/Misty like you once stated?

>>149214406
Weren't you an amourfag as well, tripfag?

You were literally on every /padt/, and I don't see how anyone could stand that place unless they're either obsessed amourfags or obsessed anti-amour shitposters.

>>149214691
So? Why does it matter? People were for something and we got something cute. That's all there is to it. Don't get your panties up in a bunch.

>>149214406
>>149214556
>>149214691
>actual, legitimate mad damage control in a thread that was at the very least made to laugh at such damage control
I refuse to think this is real.

>>149214701
I never said anything about the flowers. Even then, those are just symbolism. My point is simply that she's gone and that thinking she's end game is being delusional.

>>149214719
I was in the beginning. But the attitude of those shippers was so bad that by the end of XY&Z I began to actually start disliking Serena.

>>149214603
Said director is also no longer the director. Which means, none of that actually matters.

>>149214719
He was supposedly an amourfag until he killed his trip to shitpost about them, then he came out with his talk about about being ex-pokeshipper.

>>149214691
No one even knew about the flowers until he mentioned it.

>>149214754
>People were for something and we got something cute
I think that's his point. It's gone past the "that's cute and I'm happy for Serena" thing and is now just "I won and I'll prove that everyone else is mad"

>>149214764
The director's talk was about the flowers and that's where it all came out.

>>149214808
Then maybe he should stop taking the bait. I didn't even read the OP properly and didn't realize this was a gloating thread(I thought it was just a Serena thread) until I saw the asspained people complaining.

>>149214764
>But the attitude of those shippers was so bad that by the end of XY&Z I began to actually start disliking Serena
Oh god, this. I was actually supporting Serena in the beginning as well. Once the league started to show on the horizon, they just gotten insufferable, at which point, I just didn't give a crap anymore.

>>149214808
I saw this guy posting this exact kind of damage control back on Thursday too, shortly after the kiss, so that's not his point, no. He's legitimately salty about people being happy about this.

>>149214808
>>149214904
Good thing he uses a trip:
>>149103425
>>149150792
>>149151023
>>149151262
>>149151746
Dude's been spewing salt in every thread we've had about this.

>>149214406
Well, tripfag, the lip kissing, the starry eyes, and the director making his comments is where it's being put that she won.

>does that mean that I win my best friend if I kiss her on the lips, even if she doesn't love me back or only treats me as a friend?
>best friend
You'd have fucked up by then.

>>149214860
>you can't like a cute romance subplot because people and falseflaging shitposters are "being insufferable"
I assume you hoped Ash would lose the league too?

>>149214776
His comment was out not too long ago. If he'd had waited like Hidaka's year and a half then maybe it wouldn't matter.

>>149215031
Ouch.

>>149215132
Did Hidaka even say anything? All I remember is him saying "If Ash became a Pokemon Master the show would obviously have to end, so that's not happening any time soon" and a metric ton of retards misquoting this as him saying "Ash will never win the Pokemon League ever".

>>149215213
Hidaka never really talked much other than Ash becoming a master ending the series supposedly, and other shit that's misquoted. Otherwise, no, never mentioned anything and that interview was back during DP.

>>149215031
I don't get it. What does linking to that tripfag's post have anything to do with the validity of it?

>>149215118
Not him but that fallout was great.
Contrast to shipper stuff in which a much more smaller group would care about, you got something that stupidly subverted all expectations caused larger groups of people to get salty and watching the actual event had some hilarity to it.

>>149215118
I have nothing against a romance subplot, except I had long realized it would lead to nowhere since it resets every season, the director who supported this ship is leaving and GF is still going to be making Pokemon games so the status quo will be enforced, no matter what. Serena gave a kiss, it was cute. That should have been the end of it before we move on to the next season and start the cycle afresh.

>>149215336
He's been salty about people being happy about the kiss and droning on about "everyone that thinks this matters in any way is dumb" ever since it actually happened, so his post is in no way a reaction to anything posted in this thread or him being fed up with "gloating Serenafags", since there was none of that back when he initially started posting these posts.

>>149215439
But, what does him constantly posting and salty have anything to do with the validity of his post? That's just ad-hominem.

>>149215430
Well, I mean even GF kind of liked it.

Said director's leaving but the new head writer is one of the people who'd write for the subplot, so honestly I can see them bring it up in the future over cameos.

>>149215408
>Not him but that fallout was great.
The anger explosion was somewhat funny, yes. I was disappointed it happened, but the extreme reaction and madspam was too hilarious to not laugh at. My point was more that this guy said he "stopped caring about the Serena romance subplot because other people that liked it were "being insufferable"", by which I assume he means "people liked it and talked about it a lot". And people were definitely talking way WAY more and even spamming other boards about Ash's league victory chances.

A good deal of the spammy nature of both was also most certainly falseflagging spammers

>>149215118
>I assume you hoped Ash would lose the league
Ash's league loss was hilarious though. Literally everyone on the anime threads was absolutely certain that he'd win (though they had plenty of reasons to believe that), and some even were posting stream links on other boards telling people to watch it.

And then the frog jobbed and they became the laughing stock of the whole site. What a glorious day that was. The Serena shitstorm doesn't even come close, no matter how much people try to force it as a NaruHina 3.0

>>149215500
Because his post isn't about how "It's gone past the "that's cute and I'm happy for Serena" thing and is now just "I won and I'll prove that everyone else is mad"" when it's nearly copy and paste from what he posted back on the day the episode aired and people were just being happy about it.

>>149215596
>and some even were posting stream links on other boards telling people to watch it.
Those were not people from that thread, I can promise you that. Those streams get laggy as shit when there's a bunch of people watching, and everybody there knows that. The people spamming links elsewhere were crossboarding faggots that had never watched the show live before.

>>149215665
I'm not even mad about Serena kissing Ash. I was one of those people who wanted to see some kind of closure for her romantic subplot, in whatever way. I was initally very happy to see the kiss. I'm mad at the reactions that came after, not the actual event.

>>149215580
That's just not going to happen though. There are plenty of people that liked the previous companions, and they were given nothing more than minor cameos before focusing on the current cast. GF has been at it for twenty years. I highly doubt they haven't considered how detrimental it is to rely on a ship, especially one might potentially take away the spotlight from the current game/season and its characters.

>>149215500
Not the same guy, but pretty much the shit brought up made Serena the winner. He talks about Serena being gone, but then goes on to say arc appearance this arc appearance that.

The whole reset thing was done in BW but still ended up getting tied to the whole series in the end and no one really knows how they're going to go about with SM.

If he wants his "status quo" then in all regards Serena's been given a pass to cameo either in Alola over what could be DP remakes and her doing contests, Ash's house because she got invited there, and shit like that.

At this point, he just sounds salty.

>>149215841
That person is here in this thread, so you might as well address his post instead. Just prove him and his argument wrong instead of just saying 'he's just salty, so his opinion is invalid.'

>>149215769
Your amazingly stunning inability to realize what's just people shitposting makes me highly doubt you were mad about any actual reactions.

People were happy and hyped about the kiss. You've been mad about that happiness all week and posted way too many "this doesn't matter, stop being happy about it" posts for someone with a searchable trip.

>>149215928
Not that anon, but how exactly can you tell the difference between a shitposter and a rabid shipper?

>>149215801
I said cameos, not making her a protag again. The whole thing about characters being on the spotlight is really over what the new games do and what not.

If you take the May and Drew case, that was its own thing.

>>149215895
There is no argument. We're happy about the resolution and he's mad about how happy we are. All his posts are about why people are "wrong" to react the way they do.

>>149215928
Except the people I'm referring to are the ones who aren't just "happy about the kiss" (otherwise I'd be one of them) but instead are the people who think that the kiss will lead to something more significant when in fact its main purpose was to give closure to her romantic subplot.

>>149215895
Come on anon, look at this >>149215031
That's five other selected posts in addition to the ones in this thread that are purely "she didn't actually win, this means nothing, why are you happy about this" over and over. Then look at any of the other Pokemon threads on /a/ this week and see how people are just being happy the girl won, and the salt becomes really obvious.

>>149215968
If someone acts retarded = shitposters
If they calmly and maturely discuss the ship = authentic shippers

Because it's impossible for people with the same tastes as him to be legitimately retarded, of course

>>149215971
I can see one or two cameo, but I really don't expect anything to continue the ship in any form or way. It basically restricts any future directors in how they want to proceed with the anime, not to mention, incoming fans who started with SM might not care for who Serena is and why is she showing up so much.

>>149216059
>If they calmly and maturely discuss the ship
Having lived through NaruSaku and IchiRuki, and now whatever the rabid ship is for One Piece, I genuinely cannot tell what's 'authentic shipper' anymore.

>>149215968
When a thread gets a "THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE SERENA" and then a bunch of faggots start picdumping and spamming, then going "lol u mad" and whatnot at anyone referring to it as shitposting, it's pretty clear it's people doing it to falseflag as Serenafags and be annoying on purpose.

Those /vp/ anime threads drown in so much constant shitposting from people that hate the anime it gets pretty easy to recognize their strategies after a while.

>>149216068
It isn't like you're actually getting much in terms of "incoming fans" when SM's being a complete panderfest for older generations and I guess if you consider the population issue.

The only thing that's restricted is just that Ash has a girl, kind of like how you have mascots like Mickey and Minnie and shit like that.

>>149216181
Isn't that just Poe's Law in action? I mean, let's be honest here, shippers have poisoned the well so damn much, that any attempts at shiposting really can't be distinguished from actual shippers. It's not like shitposters will admit they're just shitposting, so we have no sampling size as to how many are genuinely serious and how many are not.

>>149216011
The thing is it wasn't just the kiss that did it.

People aren't even saying she's returning as a main character, just that she for all intents and purposes won.

>>149216059
But if you stop liking something because you see other people that at least pretend to like it act like retards, you wouldn't like anything.

Nobody in those threads were defending those shitposters. Nobody were acting like this was acceptable behavior. That alone should tell you those people were probably primarily doing it to look like faggots on purpose.

Back when /vp/ had better moderation that kind of spam also got dealt with rather fast and nobody treated it as anything other than shitposters picdumping to spam.

>>149216193
And how does pandering to older generations have anything to do with the new fans? Is there some unspoken rule new fans must hate everything the older generation likes?

>>149216425
I never even implied that. What I'm saying is that the older generation pandering's going to expose the incoming fans to the older stuff.

If anything, you'll be seeing new fans up to speed over the kiss and shit rather than it dying down.

>>149216335
I've been in those threads since they started, anon. I've seen the shitposting grow from one tripfag spamming "these threads should be banned because I hate the anime and don't want any discussion about it on /vp/" to the kind of painfully autistic, organized shitposting where multiple people will sit there literally all fucking day posting blatant bait and try to derail the thread so much it's near unusable.

The shitposting is fairly easy to identify. It seriously is. It's the same shit over and over and over to the point the shitposts just look like pasta at this point.

>>149216529
Or they get attached to the new cast, and if there is some new romance subplot in SM anime, they would wonder why the hell would they care about some old and forgotten cast member? I mean, does ReinaXKumiko fans care that Kumiko hooks up with Shuichi in the original novel?

>>149216335
>It's not like shitposters will admit they're just shitposting

Nah some retards in that general actually have admitted to shitposting. A few others have been so transparent they also might as well have also said they were shitposting.

>>149216577
And I've been in Naruto and Bleach threads, so forgive me if I am unable to tell shitposters from the rabid shippers. Because in the end, we have all seen some serious shit spewed from actual shippers.

>>149216694
I'm referring to less about being attached to the characters and more about what's happened. That's kind of how the kiss ends up playing as a game changer.

>>149216782
So, how exactly can you tell if that's the original poster that's admitting to it?

>>149216853
Unless there's another kiss in SM. At which point, why should they care about Serena?

>>149215968
>>149216335
Consider the actual situation her, though.
We're talking about the same kind of obnoxious posts getting posted over and over nearly daily. Same type of spam, same "arguments", same pictures in the same picdumps, whatever the flavor of the month is.
This stuff gets replies calling them shitposts. It gets posts referencing the fact that shitposters are currently spamming the threads. It gets people telling others to just ignore the shitposts or wondering where the mods are.
The people making those posts over and over on a daily basis KNOW everyone else considers them shitposts. They get told this.

That's how people know it's just shitposting. Even the shitposters themselves see they're being called shitposters and just keep posting because that's what they want.

>>149216905
The anime pretty much keeps the couples stuck once they pair them. The case with Serena's kiss was that it was pretty much lip on lip, and those are saved for the main couple in simple anime.

You're bound to get cheek kissing but what they did with Serena and having her get it is just something they're not going to mess with.

>>149216905
There's not going to be another kiss in SM. If you think that has any kind of chance of happening you need to stay the hell away from marketing.

>>149216905
More like they're bound to make more romance subplots, just not involving Ash.

>>149217015
Right, but that was only at the discretion of a director that's no longer there. You're assuming the next directors are going to follow the pairing. I mean, anyone familiar with comic books knows that shit does not stick.

>>149216905
Yeah, and Naruto might get divorced in Boruto and marry Sakura, right?

You're that Mami faggot without his trip, aren't you?

>>149217044
>>149217053
And why is that? What is keeping the new director and possibly GF from introducing more romance subplot for Ash?

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>>149217015
Yeah, except Pokemon is a kids' show.

>>149217105
Wow, deja-vu. Some anon tried that shit in the other thread, and when I asked, 'And if they do, what then?', that anon just never responded. What happens if in Boruto, the mangaka ships Naruto and Sakura together? Would that make it canon?

>>149216869
What reason would there be to masquerade as a shitposter? Wouldn't that be the same thing as shitposting anyways?

>>149217075
And anyone familiar with basic marketing knows that once you establish a pairing like this you don't turn around and shit all over it like that unless you hate money and are trying to sabotage your own series. The new director will not be allowed to go against that pairing any more than is allowed to make Ash release Pikachu.

>>149217184
Congratulations, you're finally understanding shitposters. They don't need to make sense, they just want to shit everything up.

>>149217075
No, the whole couples sticking together in Pokemon isn't just a director thing, it's a series thing that's been done since the beginning.

>>149217210
Yeah, just like the directors still cared about Misty after her appearance in AG right?

>>149217152
Exactly, so that means what they did with Serena is game set, Mami.

>>149217223
If they do that, then a bunch of people will call bullshit so hard everyone involved will lose shit tons of money. Might as well ask "what if he kills off Boruto?"

>>149217275
What does that have to do with anything? And they did still give her occasional cameos and mentions.

>>149217275
What does Misty's appearance have to do with establishing a couple?

Or are you somehow suggesting that Misty was the love interest when they didn't do much with her?

>>149183832
>Not having bunny being a young teen in the pic
I wonder how a 10y can get preggi

>>149217125
Basically
>>149217210
>>149217237

I suppose in a way, any director that tries altering it will face what Suto did for BW.

>>149217315
Mami is a Mistyfag, yeah

>>149217237
Not really. You have Delia who hasn't seen her husband in a long time. Then you have whatever Brock and Professor Ivy went through. Of course, not that it matters much since there's a new director, and might not give a crap about the ship, and GF as a company is not about to break their status quo for a single character that isn't named Ash & Pikachu.

>>149217152
And they pretty much had established that Serena actually won the Ash, and being Pokemon, established couples are kept.

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>>149185921
>becomes champion

>>149217553
Unless people liked the change, but not that it matters since not even the romance subplot was able to increase XYZ's ratings. No one ever watched BW says it sucks because Iris X Ash makes for a horrible couple. It sucks because it just does. If the new director is able to do a good job with the comedic aspect in SM, then there isn't much anyone can do if they change up the romance subplot as well.

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I am dense, what is the message with the flowers?

>>149217569
Anon, Delia isn't shown in a relationship with another guy and the Brock and Ivy thing didn't do anything to establish a couple like a cheek kiss or confession, let alone a mouth to mouth.

When couples are established through the romance means they're pretty much kept together.

>>149217718
"Everlasting love" as in, "Amourshipping is endgame"

>>149204528
My headcanon is that Ash, Serena and Citron and anyone else their age are actually 15-16

Eureka is the one that looks 10 and subsequently acts as if she is 10

>>149217718
Roughly the flowers are mainly used for marriage, director points to that answer and it's message about a pure love between two people, and basically refers to Ash and Serena. Marriage and pure love thing roughly translates to Serena actually wins the Ash.

>>149217569
>Delia who hasn't seen her husband in a long time
I forgot Ash dad exist and is still alive.

>>149217210
>basic marketing
Ok, so I haven't been paying much attention to the anime and the only reason I'm even in this thread is because it's on /a/ and not /vp/ (plus the stuff about SM coming out got me curious about it again).

Anyway, does the anime even matter to anyone that aren't little kids? As far as I'm aware, the main product of focus, so to speak is still the games and that the anime is mainly targeted at the younger audience. Do these kids even care that much shipping? As far as I can tell (base on recent pokemon threads on /a/), the ones vocal about it are presumably the older fans whom I presume are in the minority. The other older fans will buy the games anyway, regardless of what happens in the anime. So my point is, would it even matter from a marketing stand point? It looks like a really trivial thing to consider since the people who care about it seems like a really small part when compared to the pokemon brand as a whole. Feels like people are taking this whole kiss thing to be much bigger than it really is.

>>149217816
The show has always been like this. They're "10" because that makes them relatable to the somwhere-around-10 core audience. Most protags in similar series are 10-12 for the same reason. It very rarely has any relation to how mature they act.

>>149217849

Is he?

>>149217739
Considering the director couldn't outright say Ash and Serena is an established couple and had to resorts to flowers and plane #'s to say it, he probably does not have the permission from GF to do so. Despite what you might think, GF is not in the habit of changing their status quo, especially before their 20th anniversary and their newest game is out.

>>149217679
The ratings thing has been a general drop since the beginning, and honestly going by how Japan's been going gaga over the kiss and what not, pretty sure people like Ash/Serena.

There's also what that other anon said about established couples.

As to why people didn't like BW, it had to do with a number of things: Iris was a perceived bitch, Ash went full retard, they had the reset occurring, and what have you. It had less to do with Ash x Iris, especially when people were doing Cilan x Iris.

>>149217935
From what I remember, they said he's a deadbeat dad that ran away because he lost some Pokemon matches.

>>149217950
Japan is not going gaga. People that have been watching the Pokemon anime have, and even then, it's been heavily divided. You are severely over-estimating the popularity of the Pokemon anime.

>>149217948
He had to resort to that so as to not say shit, but he wouldn't even have to if he ddin't have an idea over GF's idea. The couple is established, without "altering" the status quo.

I mean, you also had some of GF's crew retweeting some of the SatoSere stuff.

>>149218060
>. People that have been watching the Pokemon anime have
of couse he means them

>>149217935
He has been mentioned only once, in the second episode when Delia told Ash his father took one week to get to the town where Ash meets team Rocket.

>>149218060
When I said "Japan" I was referring to Japan's Pokemon fans. A good chunk of them has liked it while meanwhile you have your other shippers being against it because you know, shit.

>>149218093
Yes, some. I mean, I'm sure people that work at WSJ have their own shipping preference, but it does not mean they have any say on the actual ship. And that's not mentioning that some have worked at GF long enough that they might be Misty X Ash shippers themselves.

>The couple is established, without "altering" the status quo.
Unless they established another couple in the new season. In which case, what then?

>>149217887
Little kids that just watched a cute romance subplot that culminated in a confession and a kiss are going to remember that shit. Hard. They're going to feel betrayed as fuck if the show suddenly turns around and shits all over what they just saw by pairing Ash with a different girl, and that's not going to make them happy with the series

It's just not how you write for kids.

>>149204151
Here's the thing about Rukia x Ichigo, and I speak as a total Rukiafag.

There was no way for them to be together without Ichigo's dying and becoming a ghost. Given that he didn't sacrifice his mortal form to defeat Yhwach, there was no way they would end up together.

What really pissed me off was Renji sticking his hairy monkey dick into Rukia. Why couldn't it have been literally anyone else, like Hitsugaya or Kira or 69 guy?

>>149218155
>>149218193
And a good chunk have shipped Misty X Ash in the first season, doesn't mean shit. The current fanbase means absolutely nothing since GF has ensured their work doesn't grows up with the audience. They have always targeted children. They ensured new fans wouldn't have to resort to old seasons to understand what's going on. What happens in XYZ, stays in XYZ. Same for all of the previous seasons. And same for all future seasons.

>>149218239
The thing about the GF crew was the director Masuda and Sugimori, you know, the big guys.

>Unless they established another couple in the new season. In which case, what then?
When they establish a couple that's pretty much, they're left alone. They established Ash and Serena and they'll leave it at that. It's a thing they do for the series all throughout no matter who's directing.