Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1721

I hate よつばと！ I don't know how can people read this shit.

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ぞいぞいぞいぞい
いぞいぞいぞいぞ
ぞいぞいぞいぞい
いぞいぞいぞいぞ

What is with the deleted section in the CoR? There's something there that I wanted :|

>>149153933
Is that a nigger?

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>>149153982
Read something else then edgelord

夜這い

>>149154042
I can't.

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>>149153996
Someone uploaded it, we added the links, then later on they mysteriously removed it. That section is only there in the hopes that someone will be able to reupload what was lost.

>>149154141
Where did they get that stuff in the first place? Did they actually buy it themselves?

>>149154112
It's not like Yotsuba is the only easy native Japanese reading material in existence, there's loads of piss easy shit to chose from, and really you can read whatever you want it's just some stuff will be more of a struggle than others

>>149154157
Perhaps, if I knew personally where they got it, I'd be reuploading it myself.

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>>149153982
Say that to my face fucker
not online and see what happens

>only 1 month till jlpt
>nothing is sorted out yet
wew

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>>149154112
damn right you can't

>>149144217
Don't know if you're still around, but where did you find colored Death Note scans?

>>149154422
http://books.rakuten.co.jp/rk/88b3f314d9163a0c85f19e7016afd129/

>>149154422
>>149154792
As you can see there's only two volumes in color and they are free.

Help me please kind anons

>漢字間違ってんぞ？

I can't figure out why is 間違う in て form in this sentence. Context is the kid is holding a book and he thinks one of the kanji in the cover is wrong. I assume there is some sort of contraction with that ん but I can't figure it out.

>>149155253
it's like a contraction of -teirundazo

>>149155253

He's quoting the situation.

ん　＝　ない

>>149155319
no

>>149155319
>He's quoting the situation.
Is it not just 間違っていない

Is ぞい = 沿い?

>>149155425

Looks like it.

>>149155425
>>149155473

No, this guy is right: >>149155312
There's no ない in there

>>149155436
It's 象い

Im going to get into learning japanese again and thought Id make some android apps to learn on the go. What kind of things do you guy think would be good in an app like this.

>>149155253
>間違ってんぞ
>間違っているぞ

>>149154792
>>149154833
Thanks.

>>149155253
Is it 惡の華?

>>149155590
>What kind of things do you guy think would be good in an app like this.
OCR Texthooker for Manga on the go.
Standard Ebook reader like kindle with built in dictionary.
Both of these with auto import to Anki.

Have fun developing. If you make a github I'll fork, but never issue a single pull request.

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>>149155612
>>149155538
>>149155536
>>149155312
I knew you guys would help me out. Thanks.

Fucking contractions man.

>>149155716
>manga on a phone
Do people really do that.

>>149155849
Why not?

>>149155849
Almost all Japanese ebook sites have android/iphone apps.
You know you can zoom right?

It's not uncomfortable at all.

>>149155943
Well it is uncomfortable if you need to stop at any time to look up a word.

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せっかくの週末だから一昼夜勉強しなきゃダメだぞい

>>149156044
Git gud.

Also with anon's super app you wouldn't have to stop.

>>149156092
What app is that?

>>149156129
It doesn't exist.

See >>149155590
>I thought Id make some android apps to learn on the go. What kind of things do you guy think would be good in an app like this.

>>149154112
I know someone who started reading Aiyoku no Eustia after one month of studying Japanese. Just pick up whatever fancies you.

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Would anyone mind tl'ing this bubble for me.

Working on typesetting a doujin, and the translation who's MIA forgot this line.

Please and thank you.

>>149156488
This. Everything is doable.
If you don't understand something just look it up or ask here.

Same goes for watching raw anime.

I don't know what people are so scared of.

>>149156580
>If you don't understand something just look it up or ask here.
The problem is when you need to look stuff up 3+ times every single page, and possible have to ask in here more than once per chapter.

Asking stuff here is scary you know? You never know if people will answer you like they did here >>149155253 or call you names until you feel like shit. Then having to ask several times per chapter?

Most people would rather just study more.

>主
>おも ( に ) mainly


As in "mainly, these thread are about Japanese dicks?"

>>149156541
Make up shit that fits with the rest of the story just like every other translator

>>149156753
Majority of the stuff you don't have to ask for and are easily google'able. People get laughed at because they're too retarded to look for themselves in obvious resources like Tae Kim, Imabi or DOJG.

>>149156541
You was the only nigga who thought you be friends yo

>>149156753
>You never know if people will answer you like they did here >>149155253 or call you names until you feel like shit.
This is an anonymous imageboard. Why do you care if you get mocked?

>>149156753
>The problem is when you need to look stuff up 3+ times every single page
You will have to do that regardless when you first start reading. There's literally no way to avoid that. Just fucking do it.

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>>149156753
>>149156847
I think the scariest thing is people not answering your question at all.

>>149156910
>adult telling preteens to just ignore what other people think about them

>>149156541
No

>>149157019
>People you don't know on the internet
Yes, especially when the insult are totally random as "faggots" or "cunt" or other shit.

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>厄介
>trouble, bother, nuisance
>care, support, kindness

Really made me think

>>149157366
When you ask something after really trying and struggling with it and finally giving up and deciding to come here, and then people throw shit at you, of course you wouldn't take it well.

>>149157675
If you understand why すみません is both sorry and thank you it shouldn't be so hard

>>149157675
It can be a name too.

厄介（やくすけ）

>>149157675
>厄
>misfortune, unlucky, disaster

>介
>concern oneself with, jammed in

Does that make you think?

What is the 中二est LN/VN/novel that you can think of?
I would like to learn some badass words and grammar use

これらのスレに硬派厨しかいない

>>149154322
On your side or what
I'm still waiting for the university I'm taking it at to book a room and send me the exact time and location but other than that everything's sorted out

>>149158019
Kino no Tabi

>>149154322
>have barely looked at japanese in the last month

oh well hopefully knowing mandarin now will help me

>>149158019
はなひらっ！

>>149158076
>硬派厨
I really really like that word. Do you mind if I mine it?

>>149154322
>only 1 month till jlpt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q-P-bcKQiM

>>149158019
Dies irae

Any other answer is wrong.

>>149158324
I would avoid mining anything from japanese beginners

>>149158324
all yours my friend ;)

>>149158076

えぇぇー？　なんっつってんだお前？やんのか？

>>149158396
But the reading guide says Monogatari is harder than Dies Irae

>>149158396
Thanks

>>149158524
I did not ask for the hardest one

>>149158524
The reading guide is pretty bad in general but completely garbage for comparing between mediums

Also difficulty is not equal to chuuni level

>>149156799
mainly as in chiefly

>>149160478
As in "I'm the boss of this family, my wife just just stay in the house" kind of deal?

>>149160527
No, as in "Golf clubs are chiefly for golf"

オマエらはなぜ存在するの

>>149160617
貴様の母さんを犯すため

>>149160617
わ，分からないよ
自殺したいよ
助けてくれ

>>149160893
ううん。

There are many things as easy or even easier than Yotsubato to get started. DJT really needs to stop recommending it as "OBLIGATORY FIRST MANGA EVER YOU NEED TO READ".

>>149160725
私はそう信じない

もっと激しく言って？

>>149160893
私はあなたを救うため歌え

でもずーっと何も聞こえなかった

>引きずり
>woman who doesn't work and only thinks about fashion

>>149161548
SZS

>>149161548
be the change you want to see

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>>149161581

>>149161548
Such as?

>>149161581
>>149161652
Beginners wouldn't get half the jokes.

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>>149161620
ロンドン
ン
ド
ン

>>149161620
no dude youve just been corrupted by 2d media

Suddenly I can't access images because of a hotlinking filter gone wrong

>>149161581
>SZS
For a N6 beginner? this is way too hard, this manga having furigana does not automatically makes it suitable as a first manga

>>149161731
It's happening.

>>149161731
Same here, but only images posted after >>149161652

It's on /v/ too.

>>149161748
i'm n6 and could read it with ease assuming it was somehow texthookable

And we're back

>>149161696
Pretty much most moe, comedy, ecchi or slice & life manga.

Saying Yotsubato is "the easiest" is just parroting something you've heard and grew to believe in without any basis whatsoever. It isn't easier than plenty of other manga.

if you want a good first manga i recommend reading 100 childrens books instead and when youve passed your 3rd grade reading comprehension test ill let you have some manga

>>149161700
wtf i love 英国 now

>>149161805
>>149161696
>tfw I was thinking of starting SZS but now I won't

>>149161805
people dont take it seriously when i tell them they are fed nothing but regurgitated memes 24/7 with regards to all japanese media

maybe nows the time we strike back and think for ourselves wahahahahahahaha

>>149161813
What are the best places to get children's books from? I've already read the ones in the CoR.

>>149161872
why would you listen to shitposters

if you understand 90% of >>149161652 you can read SZS and have fun with it

>>149161872
No please go ahead and read it if that's what motivates you.

You can still stop after a volume or two if you feel like not enjoying it as you should and get back to it later. For now you should still do what you want to do.

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>>149161694
くりーくんでもいい

>>149161930
http://ncode.syosetu.com/n2880s/

Just go here and read whatever you find.

>>149161894
>>149161955
You agree with me then call me a shitposter?

Jamal kill yourself. Your brain is not functioning properly I swear.

>>149162018
i never agreed with you you cunt

>>149161548
>on 4chan
>not reading yotsubato first
Might aswell fuck off

内今キャメラマン

>>149162030
You choose to cope the way you like. You should still kill yourself either way.

>>149161930
https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=lp_2293363051_nr_n_0?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A2250738051%2Cn%3A%212250739051%2Cn%3A2275256051%2Cn%3A2293363051%2Cn%3A2293383051&bbn=2293363051&ie=UTF8&qid=1477777280&rnid=2293363051

>>149162018
one of the posts you quoted is me and the other is not

>>149162031
>MUH BOARD CULTURE

>>149162095
What about places to get them for free?

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Can someone explain how amazon ebook sales work? Like, when do they happen, how do I know what get selected in advance and how long do they last?

>>149162159
walk into any bookstore and just take what you want without paying

beat up the clerk if they give you trouble

>hiroshima trying to kill 3rd party archives

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>>149162159
>free
金を払え

>>149162031
I've read dozens and dozens of 10+ vol. manga now but still haven't touched Yotsubato and don't plan to anytime soon.

What are you going to do about it?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11533161

>>149162202
better carry a gun with ya... just in case

Today I did Anki for 45 minutes and then I read a visual novel for 2 hours and 30 minutes.

So... Yotsubato it is then I guess.

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>>149161652
How'd I do

>>149162224
here i made a better straw pole for you and every1 else

http://www.strawpoll.me/11533199

>>149162410
this reminds me when we did the k-on episode 1 joke sub on airday

>>149162369
What are you smoking? 4 to 5.

仕方がない
諦める

>>149162416
>私

膣
お尻
それともおちんちん
どちらの方が好きですか

>>149162754
陰毛があればどっちでもいい。

>>149162704
Shut up, I bet you use 僕 you fucking faggot.

>>149162817
つるつるはだめですか

>>149162754
良い日本語一番なのじゃ

>>149162856
i mean typically its gay ppl who bring up pronouns in the 1st place so

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B T F O

私: women
僕: blacked.com subscribers
俺: tryhard edgelords
この俺様: normal people
吾輩: normal people in formal situations

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>>149162967
朕: people born into nobility like myself

retreat to pronoun discussion where its safe and comfortable

>>149162967
私は女でも男でもつかうよ

発音でgenderをのせるよ

あたし：女っぽい
わたし：both
わたくし：男っぽい

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>>149162967
Nothing wrong in liking interracial porn and using 僕. You ought to respect other people's taste and preferences anon, especially when it comes to sex.

>>149162967

大抵はこれ

じゃ、この俺様は立ち去る。

>>149163035
So your pic would be a 朕子

>>149163080
What the hell is an NTR face?

>>149162967
Just use うち

>わたくし：男っぽい
そうですか
わたくしを使う女を時々会う
でもあたしを使う男を全然会ったことない

>>149163035
where did you get that picture of me

>>149163257
>>149163047

>>149163278
From a TED talk actually.

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I got a mail from amazon and I'm not sure what they're trying to tell me

>>149161652
>this
>for a first timer
Eh...

>>149163438
sorry i can text hook a image

>>149163438
Ok

>>149163438
they're saying if you want to change your language settings again please click here.

>>149153366
Hanahira doesn't have furigana, but almost every line is voiced, which is just as good, since you can use your ears to hear how the words are pronounced.

>>149163483
obv assuming they did tae kim and know ~1000 words it's pretty easy
source: me

>>149163685
Just like him I still wonder why it's written this in the CoR though. It should be fixed.

>it's an RTK chapter with more than 60 kanji

>>149164430
何か変

>>149164430
どこに　ヘルペス
陰部かな

>>149161548
It has the reading pack, and if that's not enough you have a 100% chance of finding someone to ask about it on here. For someone who doesn't know where to start it's perfect.

>>149163937
>doing RTK
You asked for it.

秋ふかし
　薬つけても
　　足くさし

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Do some people here really not like Yotsubato?

>>149165131
It's not about liking it, just recommending it as the single best place to start reading.

>>149165131
I do I just didn't learn Japanese to read it so it's still on my backlog.

The argument wasn't about whether it's good or not by the way.

>>149165131
>>149153982 here. I really don't like it. What of it?

>>149156541
"Well, what it means is that you're the only one who thought we(?) were friends."

kinda need the context to tell if the guy saying this is talking about a group or a single person, or if he's referencing himself.

now gimme fitty

>>149164747
目と口だよ

腫れちゃった

>>149165477
お大事に

We need a Daily Arabic Thread on /a/:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_l3U4A_AAo

Featuring Remember The Abjad, Core2000 Arabic and Steve Kaufmann videos with him wearing a dishdash

>>149165891
This would be Jamal's time to shine.

>>149165802
>>149165891
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6S8IY6oJ6k

彼女がいないから、どうぞ

>>149165802
I'll take things that never happened for $5.

>>149166084
エロゲがあるからそれ要らないよ

>>149166147
I give him a 2/10 for the typing effort

>>149165802
ya know I would normally dismiss this but the amount of autism on djt is stifling

意識過剰

>>149166453
酔生夢死

あらあら、ママと遊びたいの？

post words that are literally you
i'll start
醇風美俗
允文允武

>>149165456
Thank, I appreciate it.

>>149166607
ゲイ術

星になりたい

>>149166557
ママのオマンコを舐めたいぞ！

>>149166607
眉目秀麗

>>149166787
>星
>offender, perpetrator (police slang)
Something that can be easily done, go for it

>>149166607
Why are you posting chinese

>>149166385
>implying anyone would ever use 恋 to confess
>implying there's any situation 恋 (a noun) could be confused for 変 (an adjective)

>>149167238
Who are you quoting?

>>149166607
最も重要
華麗
セックスマシーン

>>149167273
It's okay, I'm sure Moot will fend off the evil greentexters

>>149166607
あほんだら

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>>149166607

極度紳士

http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/3253977/

あほで悪うござんした

What the actual fuck is going on here? I can't figure it out at all.

>>149167273
If there's one thing I never liked about 4chan it's you "who r u quotin" retards. Worst than Muslims.

>>149169322
Feel free to go back to wherever you came from.

>>149168892
If you google it, the latter part seems to be 悪いございました in a dialect.

>>149169322
>if theres one thing I never liked about 4chan
>not all of it
i found ctr guys

>>149169693

I think it's something like "you changed the wording of x (a word in the previous line describing unintelligent people) to あほ making it more harsh" due to the ざんした. I have no clue where the う or the ご are coming from though. Maybe I just conveniently warped the meaning in my head to match the situation, but it's the only way I can imagine the sentence making sense.

>>149170190
So it couldn't be "a bad action happened through stupidity", i.e. sorry?

交わる
well fuck me in the ass and call me a bitch, since anki does with this

>>149170544

I went back to find it and reread the last few lines. After going over it I think my explanation doesn't make sense. It must be what you're saying.

ちきゅうはヒトをみすてたもうか？

>>149161548
I don't get why some anons always get triggered when they see Yotsubato being recommended. It's a simple and easy to read manga, so it's just a good way to start reading.

If you don't like it then you can just read whatever the hell you find easier and more fun, nobody's gonna force you to read Yotsubato. But if you are just going to whine because of a mere recommendation then just fuck off.

>>149168892
>悪う + ございます/ございました
This is archaic 敬語 like 「悪い + です/でした」 in modern japanese.

>ございました -> ござんした
ござんした is pseudo dialect. This replacement makes a joking.

>悪うござんした
This means "sorry". But just joking.

>>149172023
Oh, sorry. pls ignore 「悪いでした」。

I compiled all the pages of KLCC that some anon ripped in this thread into 1 large pdf. here's the link if you guys want it. hate to see it go to waste since I used my time to upload it
https://mega.nz/#!4Bt1kTyB!Ldt4K8fSEy6fOxyMEXb4aqjgVSea8LZ3eqrGJV5GUuY

>>149172508
Hasn't this been done already?

>>149172599
That's the same link as in the CoR so I guess he's just reposting it.

>>149171461
恥丘?

>>149172023
ございます is archaic?

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http://kanji.sljfaq.org/
is this the best website to attempt to get kanji meanings,
>any better recommendations?

>>149173605
No. ございます used in modern Japanese.
The 「(悪い -> 悪う) + ございます」 usage is archaic.

>>149173959
>kanji
>meanings

>>149173959
http://jisho.org/

>>149173963
悪いございます just sounds wrong. I don't think it's archaic to conjugate it correctly.

How many hours a day do you think it takes to make noticeable progress? I want to study as much as I can, but when I get back from work studying for the rest of the night is honestly one of the last things on my mind.

I guess that's the wrong mindset to have?

>>149174138
It depends on what you mean by "noticeable progress", but you should always try to study as much as you can manage.

>>149174027
悪いございます is wrong, you true.
悪うございます sounds good. But we no longer use this normally. I'll just say 悪かったです.

>>149174138
You have to study 90 seconds every minute.

Never underestimate the power of a fraction of a second.

>>149174138
Actual study? An hour or two a day is enough
Reading and listening? A few hours a day on top of studying

>>149174138
Honestly except for anki and reading grammar nothing the rest is kind of fun.
Try things like
-Do your studying before work instead of after, if you can wake up early
-Instead of evenly adding cards, add extra cards on weekends and add fewer cards on weekdays. If you have anki synced to your phone you can even get some of your cards done at work during slow times or do 10 minutes while you're on the shitter
-do extra study after finishing the "hard" study by listening to songs while following along with the lyrics. But remember that this is only if you can't do any more real study, since it is much less effective.

But really if you do nothing but anki at an average of 15 words a day youll still finish Core 2k in reasonable time. And sometime between 2-4k words studying gets a lot easier.

I wouldn't go slower than that thought if you want to read manga in the next year.

Also, if you're really short on time, I think it's okay to delay grammar until you have 1000 words or so down, because all the grammar guides and textbooks will be using those words, so they will be much easier to read through knowing their vocabulary.

>>149174245
That's not keigo though.

But yes, that's not how you would say "sorry" in keigo if you actually meant it. You would say 申し訳ございません

>>149174402
>That's not keigo though.
And I mean not the same level of keigo, since I know someone is going to come tell me that teineigo is still keigo.

>>149174357
物語くらいでしか使わないじゃん。
「〜うございます」なんて貴族相手でもなければ慇懃無礼っしょ。冗談でしか使わない

>>149174245
当たり前だろう、敬譲語は普通に使わない
でももし皇帝陛下とかとあってるなら使うだろう

>>149174362

What is actual study? I do an hour plus some change of anki every day and as much reading as I can which is an hour or less on weekdays since I have very very little free time. On weekends I read for hours all day long and occasionally take breaks to watch anime.

>>149174402
ああ、「ございます」の用法ばかり考えててそっの言い方忘れてたわw

>>149174570
It's actual study if it takes effort and concentration.

>>149174653

Under that criteria I would say reading is studying.

>>149174487
にほんじんだって

えいごならうとき

はやいだんかいで

your majestyをがくしゅうするでしょ

>>149174748
Of course it can be. It just depends how difficult the material is. If you're capable of reading Muramasa then reading Clochette games is not studying.

>>149174839

I see what you mean now.

>>149174839
Well, someone who can read a VN like Muramasa without difficulty doesn't really need to study anymore.

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>Spend an ungodly amount of hours playing my romance game
>All is going well
>Picture related happens
I'm shattered.

>>149174962
>Well, someone who can read a VN like Muramasa without difficulty doesn't really need to study anymore.

Not really true. It just means they don't need to study VNs any more. You can still suck at for example listening, speaking, writing, and reading news.

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How often and how much to you guys practice pronunciation to make sure you don't sound silly when you get a chance to speak in japanese to someone?
And what part of japanese pronunciation do you find most difficult?

>>149175527

I don't plan to ever talk to a Japanese person outside of text. If I speak out loud it's because I'm saying some chuuni shit under my breath or something. Speaking is my last priority outside of writing.

>>149175527
I always read words aloud when I do my reps.
>And what part of japanese pronunciation do you find most difficult?
I wish I could roll my r's and speak like a "badass" "manly" anime character, but I guess that's not particular to Japanese.

>>149175527
I don't practice at all.

>what part of japanese pronunciation do you find most difficult
The "rhythm" or like, timing or morae is fucking impossible. My brain just refuses to do it properly.

>>149175527
When VNing, i say aloud the lines that aren't voiced, which are generally the thoughts and narration, and the protagonist's speech when he's a silent faggot.

>>149175527
i've lived in japan for two years. shits easy when you're forced to do it everyday.

私はお尻を食べます

>>149176959
美味しいですか

>揺さぶる
>揺れる

違いは？

もちろん

>>149176933
http://vocaroo.com/?upload

>>149177624
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VQFiZRE87E

>>149177550
ひんにゅうのばか

日本語知らない人無理

>>149175527
Pretty much >>149175727
When I do reps I say my answer to the card out loud. I find it helps me remember, keeps me from cheating myself, and lets me practice pronunciation all at once.

Other than that I read lots of random stuff aloud when I feel like it. Usually lines from manga or whatever. Sometimes it's the dumb shit you guys type in the thread.

>>149154157
There was a chunk of it which was purchased for others. I'm sure a lot of anons who post in these threads have enough combined to reupload most of it, but like most anons with these sort of things, would rather take and not give back.
What could be fruitful is to make individual series request posts in the thread, linking the op post so others may be able to see it easier, and seeing if anyone is willing to reupload that. Anons are probably more willing to upload a single series with a couple of volumes as opposed to indiscriminately uploading a whole bunch of stuff.

>>149177550
>>149177550
>揺さぶる
To sway something
>揺れる
To sway

>>149155716
>OCR Texthooker for Manga on the go
http://forum.koohii.com/thread-11121.html
>Standard Ebook reader like kindle with built in dictionary.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zyz.mobile
http://forum.koohii.com/showthread.php?pid=181484#pid181484

Don't the above already fulfil this sort of thing for reading manga and light novels on a phone/tablet?

>>149155849
Android is used in tablets as well as phones.

Anyone have any cheap tablet recommendations for reading manga raws?

>>149161548
Everyone should read よつばと！ in Japanese.

>>149179024
i never read it in english, now i never want to

>>149179455
/a/ isn't the board for you.

>>149179991
posting isnt the thing for you

>>149179024
I've already read it in English and I never reread things.

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>>149178942
https://www.amazon.com/Viking-Pro-Computer-Touchscreen-Detachable/dp/B0174AUAWG/ref=as_li_bk_tl/?tag=combooher05-20&linkId=d21890601b2fb1c57ddf0255e7909ef0&linkCode=ktl

>>149180037
pic related

>>149180075
>and I never reread things
Reading it in English is entirely different from reading it in Japanese.

>>149180075
some sort of reverse r9k? what happens when you read a catchphrase is just all ◯◯

えーびーしーでぃーいーえふじー

えいちあいじぇいけい

えれめのぴー
↑Why↑

>>149180336
>えいち
If you're going to do it wrong at least have the common decency to base it off the proper english pronunciation.

>>149180336
Isn't it
えるえむえんおぴー

>>149175527
Whenever I feel like calling my jap friends

>>149180124
>using websites with flash
>2016

>>149180336
As opposed to えるえむえんおーぴー？
because that wouldn't match the tune

カットビングだ、俺！

>仙人掌
>cactus
whut?

オレ、ホモじゃない
絶対にホモなんかじゃないんだけどなあ！
でも言うよ！
オレはな
可愛い男の娘の精液飲みたい
どうしてもそんな人の喉越しのいいザーメンをぐいぐいと飲みたいんだっ！
以上です

>>149181478
It comes from the Portuguese word "sabão", apparently, but that means soap and I don't see what that has to do with cacti.

>>149181580
wtf is your 事
you are asking for on understanding jap sentence
do you even know how to provide context

>>149181580
Learn Japanese before attempting to translate.

>>149181651
女っぽいおちんちんならホモじゃないよ
心配しないで

>>149181478
>仙人's 掌
what a name
not sure the chink to blame or the jap

>>149181580
>translating a doujin
A "doujin" isn't something you translate.

>>149181478
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1068289045

>>149181720
you're not even my real dad!

>>149181753
自分より大きい方もいいと思うが
それでは？

>>149181959
ペニス専門家として主要な特徴は大きさじゃなくて形だと思う

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あるコメント欄で
>語彙力なさすぎワロタ、あとこの『語彙』って文字読める？あ、君小学生だからまだ習ってないかwごめんねー君の学力じゃあ理解できない難しい漢字使って、まぁあれだ、勉強しろ

今何してるの

1. 秘密です
2. ゲーム中
3. 快速回転乳首の研究している

まったく姉さんは最高だぜ

>>149182313
エロ漫画を読んでいる〜(´ε｀ )

>>149182313
動画視聴中

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>>149182313
きょうは「宇宙兄弟」よんでるよ

性欲が強すぎる
何も考えられない

>>149182313
今日は朝からずっとお酒飲んでる

I fucking lost boys

>>149182313
百合レープのシーンを読み終わったばかりから休憩として４chanに来た
これから百合ゲーに戻るからじゃーね

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>いざって時
What is she saying here?

>>149183257
いざというとき
http://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%84%E3%81%96%E3%81%A8%E3%81%84%E3%81%86%E6%99%82

>>149183359
thanks for copy and pasting the first google result that sure clear things up

>>149183359
Oh, I feel retarded now. Thanks.

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>Learning a language when computer nerds will have perfect translating devices in the next 10 years

>>149183618
I don't even know if I'll still be alive in 10 years.

>>149183618
>doing anything at all when everything will be done by robots in the next twenty years at most

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>>149183257

>>149183618
Yes, yes continue waiting

>>149183618
>machine translating Japanese to English when there are words that can't even be expressed from one to the other
okay

Please recommend a work that uses complicated obfuscated grammar so I have a reason to study all this shit.

>>149184244
genji monogatari

>>149183618
１０ねんか

いきられたらいいのに

パンツみえたぞ

>>149184578
みるな！

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>>149184691

>>149184691
パンツがみえそうになったとき

みてくれるひとがいなかったら

それはそれでつまらないとおもう

I thought about learning japanese so I could watch anime without subs... but then I realized thats a retarded reason.

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>>149185105

>>149185105
If only you knew how awful subs really are you'd think it's a perfect reason

>>149185105
Well, it is. But if you like anime chances are you also like VNs, LNs and maybe even normal books, of which there are thousands untranslated.

>>149182302
Lol, must have awoken your hwabyung 草ッ

>>149185155
king me

>>149185155

Tell me then. All I want is the ability to:

1) Converse with the Japanese guy who makes my ramen.

2) Watch anime without subs

Do I still need to learn the Japanese writing system to do this properly? Hiragana and Katakana look easy enough... but Kanji looks so fucking ridiculous.

>>149185224
https://twitter.com/herkzzz/status/792082172446466048
https://twitter.com/HugBdrill/status/791612579978223616
Behold and despair

>>149185224
You'll lose the will to continue after the firts week, so do whatever you want.

>>149185224
Plenty of normies just learn spoken Japanese without ever touching the writing system, you'd be missing out on a lot but it is possible and would reduce the amount of time it takes to learn by like 70%

>>149185224
That's ridiculous. If you want to learn Japanese, do it properly. I won't pretend that kanji is easy, but it's simply a matter of time, just like every other language. At a very leisurely pace, you could learn the 2000 most common kanji in 4 months.

>>149185276

Nah like I'm seriously thinking about it... and I know what kind of commitment it is. Like 4 hours a day for 6 months to get even close to competent. Probably years for fluency in speaking/reading/writing of endless dedication.

I'm not a student so I don't have all the free time in the world.... but damn sometimes I wish I could rewind time to when I was 3. So hard to learn languages when ur brain is fully developed.

>>149185326
>At a very leisurely pace, you could learn the 2000 most common kanji in 4 months.
Learning kanji, their meanings and their readings in 4 months?
That's very optimistic.

>>149185281
Learning spoken Japanese without touching the writing system would involve a native speaker holding your hand through it all. Don't think you could self study just the spoken form in any practical way.

>>149185346
>So hard to learn languages when ur brain is fully developed.
>ur
Get out.
Also, I think that's more an issue of available free time rather than age

There should not be tremendous difference between someone who learns a language between age 5-15 and someone else between 15-25

>>149185251
>that second link
knows all that shit and still watches the subs,
最高なマゾだろう

Ok so real talk. Has my years of watching subbed anime given me any headstart in learning Japanese?

I read some common phrases and I could pronounce them correctly instantly... but beyond that I don't know.

>>149185326
Kanji isn't a massive time sink because you have to just learn them all separately, they're a massive time sink because of how much they inflate the vocab learning process, even if you know all the jouyou kanji it doesn't change the fact that learning Japanese vocabulary takes much longer because a large chunk of the words have irregular and unpredictable meanings

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>下ろす just got marked as leech
>it's my first leech
Fucking Christ, the only one of these words I can remember is 下がる because it has a different start. No other set of words comes near as infuriating as these.

>>149185411
Could potentially be possible if you just learned exclusively through watching raw anime or shit like JapanesePod, and there are good grammar resorces that use romaji like JTMW and DoJG

As disgusting as learning with romaji and ignoring the written system is, it seems possible at least

>>149185450
as someone with over a decade of watching subbed anime before starting, not much
sure some things are a bit easier to remember because of it, certain common phrases

>>149185443
He probably does that so Crunchyroll or another translation company hires him.

>>149185450
You could probably have an easier time learning listening as your brain is already used to the japanese speech noise patterns but otherwise nah

>>149185450
Your listening comprehension will be a tiny bit better

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>>149185346
The "you learn languages more easily when young" is a big meme to justify laziness really.
When you're young you can more easily sink hours upon hours on learning a specific thing, that's basically it.
Barely any neuroplasticity potential is lost upon adulthood.

>>149185368
It really isn't. If you do 25 words from Core2k6k and 15-20 kanji from RTK1 or KKLC every day - fairly manageable, in my opinion -, after 4 months you will have completed either book and studied 3000 words. That's more than enough to start building vocabulary and familiarity with the language purely from exposure to Japanese content and occasional referencing to intermediate/advanced resources.
>>149185453
I would argue that kanji makes learning vocabulary much easier, if anything.
>a large chunk of the words have irregular and unpredictable meanings
That may be true, but there's also a very large chunk that's all but trivial if you already know the constituent kanji.

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>>149183618
>implying there aren't things that can't be directly translated and keep all the nuances
>implying anyone would rather speak through a device when in a foreign country
>implying I want to wait 10 years
>implying there aren't many benefits to just learning a language
>implying
>implying
>implying
>implying

>>149185450
You'll probably have an easier time learning if you bothered participating in the /a/ "favorite japanese expression" meme threads.

When I was starting out I'd instantly remember a kanji if it was linked to a meme word that I liked.

>>149185524
>a large chunk of the words have irregular and unpredictable meanings
Sorry I meant readings, but meanings as well to a lesser extent I guess, it is a mixed bag, sometimes words have really obvious readings if you already know the kanji, but a lot of the time even when you know the kanji it doesn't help at all with the reading at least, meaning the only thing you can do is drill them into your head with something like anki

In other languages that don't have the irregular reading system that Japan has this is never a problem because all words can be read as they are seen, meaning it's much less of a time sink, but then again those languages don't benefit from the easy to predict meanings like Japanese words have, so I guess maybe it evens out

>>149185450
I learnt Japanese from watching subbed anime so yes

I didn't realize I'm not supposed to spam enter on anki. Is this the reason why all of my cards are "young" and 0% are "mature"?

I didn't even see the easy/hard/normal/again shit until someone in this general pointed that out.

>>149185599

Kanji is completely retarded. Its analogous to creating a digit for every number up to a million. Truly an ingenious writing system designed by the brightest mind in ancient japan.

>>149185674
start from the beginning

>>149185599
Ah, right.
>those languages don't benefit from the easy to predict meanings like Japanese words have, so I guess maybe it evens out
Yeah, this is exactly what my response would've been if you had said readings instead of meanings.

>>149185680
I have a love hate relationship with kanji, they have a bunch of benefits and look really nice alongside kana, but god damn I wish someone would fix the reading system

>>149185742
china actually spent a long time fixing their own reading system
then japan fucked it up big time

What the hell is the correct 2chan? The one that's text only.

I only found http://www.2ch.net/ and http://www.2chan.net/ but both of them seem to be wrong.

How are you supposed to find this site?

>>149185509
It is not a meme. But people use it as an excuse. You can still learn anything at old age, but younger brain just does it easier.

>>149185770
Learn the difference between 2channel and futaba.

>>149185787
The second page I posted is called 双葉ちゃん and I found it searching for that.

>>149185770
2ch is the massively popular text board. This is the one you see in such hit shows as Densha Otoko.
2chan is the image board. Think it was a spin off from the above, basically the Japanese 4chan.

>>149185450
you should know all the sounds however they will carry over to normal people speech in a reduced manner because normal ppl speech is not gay ass voice acting

>>149185770
if you cant even get on the right board with your own power you shouldnt even be there

On the topic of 2ch, what's the difference between エロゲー and エロゲー作品別 boards? I don't know if I can tell..

>>149185450
Close to zero really. You know few phonetics and thats it.

アノン殿の子種が欲しいわ

>>149185961
売女ですか。

毎日飲む精液地元はｄｊｔ