Zaregoto Vol 1 Subs are out

How are the current subs? Might wait for commie

>>149105390
Made by the LN fantranslator, they're good.

>>149105390
Looks fine for me. It's Nisio so subs will never be good enough

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Math a cute

>>149105546
She was pretty hot this episode.

Is this the new Monogatari?

>>149105628
Nisio's earlier LN series.

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>>149105572
Yeah
Her legs and her tight pants
And her voice

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cute

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She reminds me Sodachi

>doesn't look like Take art

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>149106508
> doesn't look like Take art
It's a good thing

How are the voice performances? Is Kaji at least decent as Ii-chan?

>>149106534
I think he's good.

>>149106508
Looks close enough to the original designs.

>>149106527
No It's not. This artstyle should stick with Monogatari.

According to the synopsis, this sounds a lot like danganronpa.

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>>149105546
>math

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>>149106588
Watanabe is free to do everything. And he did well this time.

>>149106526
Kawaii nigga

>>149106534
He's actually doing a pretty good job.

>>149105361
Looks like Monogatari
Same designs

Can't wait when garbage-kun eats the evidence in vol.2

>>149106534
He's good, but I'd still prefer araragi's va because of the intermal monologues

>>149106716
Not really

>>149106534
Won't be able to tell until ii-chan reveals his true personality.

He is fine right now though.

I want some of monogatari VAs in this.

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>30 seconds in
>aikawa is already revealed

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>>149106847
There will be bound to be some eventually.

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>>149106831
> his true personality.
What is his true personality?

>>149106856
To be honest, I was pretty happy to see her.

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>>149106831
>Won't be able to tell until ii-chan reveals his true personality.
So never?

>>149106856
Isn't that based on the prologue?

>>149106856
Pretty sure it was meant to be shinya in the novel. Now everyone will know Iria is lusting over a woman the whole time.

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nice thighs

>>149106880
A pathetic pile of evil worshipping garbage.

>>149106901
This exactly. It was supposed to confuse the audience on who exactly this "Aikawa Jun" fellow is. The first time I read her name, I actually thought she was a man.

>>149106856
That's exactly how it happened in LN.

>>149106920
She's actually autistic.
Don't sexualize the retard, it's not good to take advantage of mentally challenged.

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Nisio's detective stories are terrible desu

>EOPs needing some shitty /a/ subs

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>>149106901
>>149106856
I thought the girl at the beginning was just the girl who was playing shogi by herself?
They look and sound about the same to me.

First song sounded like something out of Umineko? Is it by the same person?

>>149107011
>/a/ subs
>subbed by the guy who translated the LN 10 something years ago better than the official translation
Gee, it's like you want to look like a retard.

>>149106950
Yeah, but Aikawa wasn't shown or described at all in the beginning in the novels. .

>>149106927
what?
Is he secretly an edgelord?
Why?

That seems like an out of nowhere twist, he seems like a pretty normal angsty teen like you get in your japanese animes.

They cut quite a few hints to the mystery though i guess not all are needed but they are refered back to at the end.

>>149107160
Someone who hasn't read the novel doesn't know who she is though.

>>149107176
Hes a pathological liar

I've read book 1-3 a while ago but I remember nothing, except there's a cafeteria in the second novel I think.

Hopefully they will adapt at least until vol 3 because I'm too lazy to reread what Ive read before.

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>>149105546
>math

>>149107188
Well, It's an anime after all, It's not like the novel where you just have to imagine the scenario with the information given.

>>149107278
I think it's fair to assume that this will sell enough to get more novels adapted.

>>149107278
They're adapting only the first novel.
Monthly. In 8 episodes.

So the first novel will end in may or june 2017.

>>149107386
It was 13.6k yesterday.

>>149107176
He's a literal sociopath

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What the hell did SHAFT do to my little Blue Savant waifu?

>>149106894
>so never?
What is volume 2

>>149107644
The adaptation itself isn't actually bad, you get used to the designs too.

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>>149107732
Design isn't bad, but they aren't cute and distinctively sleek at take's.

Can't comment on adaptation yet since it's been over 6 years since I read Cycle 1 I can still remember most major plot details, but lesser ones are mostly forgotten. I need to brush up.

>>149107843
>not reading Zaregoto weekly like it's your bible
step it up senpai

>>149107045
>better than the official translation
I too love to talk out of my ass

>>149107644
They made her adorable.

Damn, another month to wait for Episode 2

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>>149107965
>made
Tomo-chan is always adorable, nigga.

>>149108038
Shaft made it more evident.

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That was actually a pretty decent adaptation but I would have preferred if they made it look like Take's modern artstyle. It was the picture they used for the website after all.

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>>149108065
Can't say I don't love her seiyuu. Design-wise is okay, but the animation of her is too soft and not clear, though that might be raws quality than it is the animation. Tomo is supposed to be a loli, but sometimes there's inconsistency where she looks older, so there's that.

>>149108166
She is 19

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>>149108187
Yes, but she's physically an elementary school girl.

>>149108213
What's wrong with that?

>SHAFT™ head tilts
picked UP

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>>149108242
What? Nothing. I love that she's a cute loli, that's why I made a gripe about the inconsistency, anon.

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Webm bro when? There's at least a dozen of cute webms to make for Tomo.

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>>149107176
Depends on what do you take as an 'edgelord'. Describe it to me what edgelord is then I can answer you.

>>149107729
So never?

These subs aren't good.

>>149108859
Best subs come from within the mind.

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So this is a sociopath's way of stretching.

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>>149109032
A sociopath's way of walking.

Huh, it's got character commentary too.

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>>149109066
And a sociopath's way of tea drinking.

>>149109091
>>149109032
>>149109066
WOW. it's almost like he acts and behaves exactly like a normal person! Fucking amazing!

>>149109032
>>149109066
>>149109091
No, that's ER3 way of stretching.
If you trying to fit in, at least know the subject first.

>>149109190
Because it is.
Have no idea why he's so hunged up with whole "MC is definitely a sociopath because an anon said so"

>>149109032
>>149109066
>>149109091
Ii is actually pretty tame in Vol.1 compared to the later novels.

>>149109296
To be fair he DOES have brain problems from what i've read in the novels. A normal person couldn't even imagine doing half the things he has done, not that he has really done much. Even for a MC-kun he's too underwhelming. I guess that inevitable if you throw him in a pit of prodigies.

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cute

>>149109402
You misunderstood. Look at what I'm replying to.
Do you want him to post something like
>this is a sociopath's way of breathing
>this is a sociopaths way of standing
>this is a sociopaths way of talking
in every post?

>>149109402
>A normal person couldn't even imagine doing half the things he has done
Yeah, by that you mean the scretching, the walking, and the tea drinking right?
Yeah, really can't imagine doing that.

How many frauds do you think appeared in this episode?

>>149109529
So this is a sociopath's way of posting!

>>149109587
I can only manage one of those tasks a day, it's impressive by my standards.

>>149109402
Easy there fanboy, that's still for a long time to actually be the focus of the plot. Doing it now just make it look like you self inserting so hard to the MC.

>>149109636
This is a sociopath's way of refuting a claim.

>>149109631
>I can only manage one of those tasks a day, it's impressive by my standards.
Your own fault for being a fat fuck.

Is MC actually crazy or you guys just crazy?
Why would he be?

What's this story is even about, they just told us that there's a rich exiled chick and she's bored so she asked for smart/talented people to come entertain her.
That's literally it.

Why are they expectinv me to buy the next BD a month down the road?

This is terrible marketing, they make it seem like it's just a sol show about cute genius girls doing cute things.

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>>149109663
>refuting a claim

>>149109704
Just another nonsense from shaft.
No need to bother.

>>149109704
>all of this is just.... Zaregoto.

>>149109704
>What's this story is even about
>they just told us that there's a rich exiled chick and she's bored so she asked for smart/talented people to come entertain her.
That's literally it.

Exactly.

It's fun to see Maki talk while having already read the novel.

pls no spoily

>>149109847
That's not exactly the best place to expect people to not spoil stuff.

>>149109799
psh nothing personal

Just turn your brain off and enjoy the ride, best to not think too much about it. What's important isn't the plot but the meaning of the plot that nisio is trying to convey.

>>149109847
MC-kun is going to become batman.

>>149109890
I said pls so anons will make an exception this time.

Never read zaregoto before, how do you guys rate it compared to monogatari?

Zaregoto should have never been adapted into anime. It deserved a proper live action adaptation like Okitegami Kyouko

>>149110077
>live action
No.

What is this monogatari?

>>149110094
Fuck off anime only fag. So far of all Nisio adaptations, live action was the best one.

>>149110069
Not exactly waifu bait material compared to monogatari. The plot has little supernatural elements, the MC is mildly more entertaining than monogatari, the themes the author brings up isn't as thought provoking as it is in monogatari, character interactions aren't as good either, I would rate it a solid 4/10 standalone and 7/10 in comparison to monogatari.

>>149110139
No, I watched Okitegami Kyouko and liked it but for Zaregoto, No.

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Incoming autism

>>149109199
>>149109280
Tomo-chan is too cute.

>>149108103
There were several different styles of Take's art on the site

Why is Kalafina such a repetitive crap

>>149111758
this
I hate her opening
the blandest, lethargic crap ever

>>149112086
Kalafina did ending

>>149112127
hate her openings*
Since she does those more and it's more apparent that they suck since usually don't focus too much on EDs.
But that still applies to everything she does.

DEEEEEEP

I remember feeling this when I first watched Bakeshit and I enjoyed it

>>149112676
If you called her pretty would she an hero?

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>>149108103

>>149110069
More interesting and concise subplots, but mostly worse characters that feel like throw aways compared to monogatari characters.

In my opinion it's consistently better than the more boring monogatari arcs, but overall worse than the real good ones.

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>>149112676

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>>149112676

>>149112762
I'd consider Kubishime, Psychological and Hitokui considerably better than anything found in gatari.

And definitely don't agree with the characters, ii-chan is a far better character than Araragi and zaregoto usually wins out when there are similar characters (Ichihime/Mayoi). Zaregoto does have throw away characters but it also has a huge cast compared to Monogatari where usually only 2-3 characters star in a single arc.

how long is the play time?

>>149113458
I've read up to vol 6 in the past and barely remember any characters besides li-chan, kunagisa, aikawa and zerozaki, although I really like the first two. Many recurrent characters didn't feel like actual added value to me, like li-chan neighbors, but I assume they'll be expanded later.

Kubishime was certainly the best arc I read, but after that I kind of feel bored because it seemed like he stuck too much to the formula, and Psychological was the greater example with the over the top solution that literally everyone there knew it was obviously false but had to accept it like it was the result of a proper investigation and li-chan had the authority to say so

Monogatari is a more exploratory story, so it kept me interested better, and the highs are not as softened by the reuse of those narrative elements. Characters are also more relatable by being mostly normal good-hearted people in fucked up situations, instead of sociopathic super human geniuses

Like I said, it was mostly my opinion, and it's certainly partial to the fact that I've seen more Monogatari lately (off-season and anime), so I can remember characters better.

>>149108103
I really like this, wish more more shows adapted this style

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>You will never live in a Shaft designed home

>>149110069
if you go into it expecting monogatari you're gonna be disappointed because it isn't monogatari.

still good tho

>>149114174
27 minutes

>>149113458
>Hitokui
man, i read the expecting a masterpiece and it was a snorefest until the final chapter. please tell me the final arc is better

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>>149114558
I dunno. That table looks really inconvenient.

You actually hate Kunagisa Tomo, don't you?

>>149114643
Really quite unfortunate that Shaft have tried so hard to make it look like monogatari then.

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Is there a supercut of all of the things Shaft reuses in its shows?

This is going to be detective anime with Nisio gimmick right?
But how can this first episode be so boring? I know there would be many dialogues since it's Nisio's, but this episode is literally nothing but wall text.
I ironically enjoy it though.

>>149115042
>I Ironically enjoy it
Opinion discarded as bait. Kill yourself, retard

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I'm curious how people will feel about the reveals that happen later.

In the book they were surprising, but believable due to the nature of a book being able to lie to you

>>149115207
Woah you're so rude, anon.
At least answer my question in this post.
Will it be more interesting than wall text for the next episode? assuming it has same pace with this episode?

>>149115328
The reveal in Otori worked pretty well, so it should be doable. Though in that case Nadeko was lying to herself, not just to the readers.

>>149115328
>>149115904
What are you talking about? Reveals?

muxed where?

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>>149116040

Besides the main detective nature of the story, there is another thing going on that won't be revealed until the very end of the series.

But already, it is happening.

There's clues in what the psychic was saying

>>149107005
The Death Note one was pretty good actually.

>>149116129
it's so strange that that's so because nisio had a really hard time planning the series and retconned a lot of things

>>149116386
But Monogatari has many hints from later stuff right from the start as well. Nisio is moderately good in keeping the plot properly linked, but he is helped by unreliable narrators.

>>149115454
I'm not a novel reader, so I have no idea. But what I do know is that the epic "ironically enjoying stuff" meme is cancer. You either unironically enjoy something or don't
If you are going to be doing "le ebin ironical enjoyment xd guise" you can shoot yourself

>>149116763
monogatari

>he makes hanamonogatari without planning koyomimonogatari, so when he dies people already know it'll be resolved with him being resurrected
>introduces sodachi and her arcs when he has already made arcs appearing after without even a mention of her, so he has to make her leave at the end and make everyone shut up about her chronologically as if they've forgotten about her.

zaregoto

>makes 3 different ideas for the first book, effecting the series in drastic ways, even having different narrators. the first book turns into a complete bore with hardly any direction
>he fully wrote a completely different version of volume 3 about the other people living in his apartment, but it was boring shit so he scrapped it, but he had already planned ahead, so in later volumes characters are mentioned that haven't even been introduced, and the worst witch appears in the cast list several times without ever appearing in the series

hmmmmmm.................

Moogy-dono's thoughts on the episode: https://twitter.com/moogy0/status/791784111786504193

>>149114849
Spiral staircases make my dick rock hard.

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>>149117018
But you posted this yesterday.

>>149117018
>caring about e-celebs
go back to >>>/vg/

>>149117005
First one isn't really a retcon, just an anticlimactic spoiler.

Sodachi was added later if the rumors of owari being about a male childhood friend who killed himself until he wrote Ougi Formula true, which also show how he creates multiple scenarios in monogatari as well, and it was consistent with Kizu when he simply said he didn't remember what happened that changed him from an easygoing person into a loner. And also how he was really good at math and that got him in that school.

But I read your first comment wrongly I guess. I understood you meant as Nisio frequently retcons his own canon, he does change a lot his ideas for the story while writing them.

>>149114712
>Implying you couldn't move chairs into the cutouts and use subsection the table into smaller personal groups.

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>>149105361

OH

MY

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>149119205
>implying most of those retards are actually from /a/
>implying they're not redditors who never belonged here, and never wil belong here
Kill yourself and go back to /vn/ to suck that retarded e-celeb's dick

>>149119139
I don't know how you still think Kajiura is used all the time when she's worked on three shows in the past three years

>>149119504
>>149119574
THEN DISCUSS THE FUCKING SHOW.
WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT SOME FAGGOT FROM TWITTER SAYS?
You won't see people dropping ANN or MAL reviews in threads unless it's to mock them because nobody gives a fuck and the show can be perfectly discussed without going all "look what this faggot whose dick I suck is saying about the show"

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>>149119425
>>149119504
>>149119574

>>149119728
Moogy is a retard from twitter and the retarded population from /vn/ (/vg/'s vn generals) love to suck Moogy's dick
Now can we discuss Zaregoto and not Moogy's opinions?

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>>149119781
>>149119821
pic related happened a few days ago on /tv/ too and everyone laughed at him.
as you'd expect, he told everyone to go back to wherever

DO YOU ALL WANT TO SUCK MOOSHIT'S DICK THAT MUCH? OK LET'S SUCK OUR LORD MOOSHIT'S DICK
ALL PRAISE MOOSHIT

So what's the music like overall?

How many head tilts are there also?

>>149119950
I remember it being okay while watching, but I honestly don't remember a single track other than the main theme.

If there were headtitlts, then they probably didn't stand out much. Or maybe I just have shit memory.

Did you like the first episode, guys?

>>149120207
Yes and I'm very excited to see more.

>>149105361
Well damn. This was pretentious and boring as fuck. I mean so is the entire monogatari series. But at least that one got good fap material.

>>149120207
Nope. Extreme overuse of CG, exposition in the form of tell not show, uninteresting characters and a MC that seems to not be there.

For now, is like if Danganronpa took itself serious and people aren´t trying to kill each other.

>>149120833
> implying Monogatari isnt good fap material
Gay

>>149120207
Loved it. Can't wait for next month
>>149120971
You should work on your reading comprehesion, anon
The dude you replied to said Zaregoto is pretentious and boring as all fuck and that Monogatari is equally pretentious and boring, but at least Monogatari has good fap material

>>149120971
I hate to admit it, but I have gone to the next level. Them monogatari NTR doujins makes me harder than diamonds, I guess is mainly because I don´t like to self-insert as the MC.

>>149121078
Anyone can understand that. Get off your high horse. It was just banter. You are gay.

>>149120207
Read the novel instead. They butchered the designs.

>>149121260
it's not a comic book you know

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Who here is ready for all the edge to come in vol. 2?

>>149121260
The only thing that's butchered is your brain.

>>149121295
>Comic book
>Not manga
Get out.

>>149120207
It was ok but they cut way too much dialogue. Characters went from having entire conversations in the novel to just saying a few important lines in the anime, It made it feel unnatural.

Like Maki's statement didn't really mean much considering ii-chan hardly had a conversation with anyone in the anime.

Since the following chapters are half the length, it should get better.

>>149121390
it still isn't a comic book

what is this? geniuses in the same place? is this ripping off dangan?

>>149105361
>shaftshit
>that screenshot
dropped already

>>149121473
It came out much earlier than DR.

>>149121260
>>149121295
i might actually read it if some pictures accompanied the wall of texts. is not even ln, hope anime gets better.

I want a new harem from Nisio. Not these awful detectives full of freaks and asspulls. He created the best girls in the industry and I want more.

>>149121723
Fuckers like you are the reason why the industry is filled with garbage. Fuck back to your circlejerking reddit threads.

>rated low on MAL
>dead threads
is nisio exposed as the shitty writer he is? without sex appeal, no one cares.

>>149121938
More like Shaft just doesn't know how to make good anime. I had a great time reading the light novel.

>>149121783
I just like girls. Nisio created Crab and Bat. I want to know if it's possible to create even more perfect girl. But only Nisio can do it.

>>149121938
I'm sure Zaregoto is good or at least readable but I'm really put off by the Bake template. Before I used to kind of appreciate their effort to make shows unique compared to other studios but over the years their style has become stale, and while the concepts used might be interesting the execution is almost always sloppy with low quality animation and visuals.

>>149122155
Bait. Don´t take it. No one over 18 is this shallow. Yes not even the whore that lives across the street and does bjs for a ten.

>>149110069
Kinda like the novel format.
The prologue usually start with some kind of topics, which is a usual glimpse of what will we get in the novel. Still ambiguous shit, but the reveal in the epilogue always interesting for me.

>>149121938
Zaregoto always starts slow. Always, like every novel. You kinda have to go through some boring shit since there's almost japanese reference everywhere.

You kinda don't care for it, but it actually linked to whatever is going on in the background.

>This thread
So all of you are just watching this because you wanted more haremonogatari? I swear, that cancer was a mistake, if only SHAFT wasn´t the studio, not one of you faggots would have liked it.

>>149122577
That's literally what happened right now with unknowning audience. The first thing they see about Zaregoto was how similar it looks with monogatari.

Their reason are kinda justified.

>>149122577
Maybe. Maybe if it was done differently I wouldn't have liked it. Like, maybe if an actual decent studio got the Demonbane anime, I would've liked it.
What's your point?
I like this 1st episode, regardless of what was needed for it to be like this.
And I'm not a monogatarifag. I started watching Bake, but got distracted after a few episodes by other stuff and I need to get into it seriously.
But I'll say I liked the few episodes I watched of Bake

>>149122809
My point is, people go into this and expect more monogatari. By that, more of the self-insert MC, more ecchi, more girls to join the harem-go-around, more saving girls from first world problems.

And when they don´t find that. They think this is shit.

>>149122577
It's written by someone that already wrote thing that I enjoyed and adaptedy by a studio that made series that I enjoyed. I don't understand what's wrong with that. Should I not be interested at all?

>>149121723
Across the series, there are like 10 girls attracted to the main character. You could almost call it a harem.

>>149123238
Cool, so is like monogatari then. Not dropped yet. Better get some cute girls or this is going to suck.

>>149123275
Protip: they're all going to die
Better decide now then kiddo. Don't want to waste time in this selfproclaimedshit show, right?

>>149123275
Most of them become irrelevant though.

>>149123366
>>149123379
Thanks for let tme know. Not going to waste another second with this then. I swear, we need more good harem shows, so sick of moe, talk vomit and edge.

>>149123450
Great, now swear to me you don't come back to this thread ever again.

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>>149105361
>You can wait for Commie though

>>149122364
Read the novel if you haven't. It's great and this clumsy adaptation doesn't do it justice.

>>149123662
>reading
Get with the times gramps, no one got time with reading a wall of text. Might only consider if there was at least audio book.

>>149121938
>rated low on MAL
wtf i hate this show now

>>149122577
Could say the same about most anime series

>shaft actually charging for a 25 minute BD with QUALITY animation

Absolutely disgusting

This is trying really to be even more avant garde and random with its visuals than Monogatari, and it isn't really working for it. Whereas in Monogatari, the visuals normally suited the scene and enhanced it, (being whimsical and comedic when the tone is light, sinister and gothic when the tone is dark, etc) in this they just feel too random, like they're out of place and pointless. I can't help but feel like a more grounded style would've worked better.

>>149122577
Are you implying that Zaregoto doesn't have harem elements? Because you're a fucking retard if you believe it doesn't.

>>149124011
God no. You monogatarishitters are the worst. The reason why the camera is moving all over the place in monogatari and this, is so the viewer with short attention span don´t get bored. Just fuck off if you really believe what you wrote.

>>149124011
This is directed by a literally who, so that's to be expected.

>>149124068
Post a single scene in Monogatari where the visuals contrast with the tone of the scene.

>>149123662
>reading LNs
>ever
No, thanks
DR Zero was enough for me

>>149124068
>I could watch lip flaps for hours
Autism

>>149124011
I know you're trying to looks smart by using the comparison and all. but that's now how it works. Here let me point that out for you.
>Whereas in Monogatari, the visuals normally suited the scene and enhanced it, (being whimsical and comedic when the tone is light, sinister and gothic when the tone is dark, etc)
Pretty descriptive, you describe the atmosphere, the tone, and visuals.

>in this they just feel too random, like they're out of place and pointless. I can't help but feel like a more grounded style would've worked better.
Now you're using "just feel" "I can't help but feel"

I know you compared it based on your subjective opinion, but at least make it the same stage. Just so you know comparing things has it own sets of standard if you want others to acknowledge your opinion.

>>149124011
>Bias the post
You clearly have a boner for the former and a clear dislike for the latter without real facts backing your opinion up.

>>149123913
Wait is this true?

>>149124234
I'm not trying to look smart at all. I'm just posting my opinion on a show I just watched in a thread about that show. Don't try and make everything and anything into an intellectual debate.

>>149124279
I liked the first episode of Zaregoto a fair bit, I am looking forward to the rest. I just thought the visuals didn't suit. Why did my single opinion bring out such autistic rage from three people?

>>149124068
kill yourself faggot.

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>>149124318
It's pretty messy

>>149124449
Did you include the right picture or is there something here I'm not getting

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>>149105361
>that screenshot
>looks 100% exactly like monogatari
fuck you shaft you damned hacks.

>>149124366
My guess:

Same writer
Same studio
Same character designer for the anime

You think the show with less otaku pandering is not as good as the one that is.

>>149124484
Having a lot of people in the credits isn't really a good thing

>>149124366
Have you try to actually reevaluate yourself?
I'm not trying to make it intellectual debate, I'm saying if you want to get your opinion taken seriously then try to compare it with the same reason.

Attitude dude, if you look from another perspective, me and that other guy actually doing some criticism to the way you compare things. You want others to take your post seriously? reevaluate yourself.

Like if you don't care about what other thinks about your opinion, than what's the point of posting your opinion at all? Attention whoring?

I spoiled myself on Zaregoto and it's trash. MC is like an edgy version of Oreki and the misteries are not as good as in Hyouka. The fact that you faggots are gonna have to wait 1 month for the next episode is also hilarious.

>>149124490
That's like calling Kyoani hacks because everything looks like K-On and- oh wait they are hacks

>>149124624
How do you spoiled yourself with zaregoto at all?
Legitimately curious.

>>149124624
>Oreki
>Hyouka
>Good
You might as well not have posted at all.

>>149124670
It's studio wars bait.

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>>149124741
>nisio garbage
>good

at least hyouka isn't pseudo intellectual trash

>>149124604
>I'm not trying to make it intellectual debate
Yes, you are. You're telling me to post in a way which you consider more intellectual so that you can consider my opinion against your own. But I don't care if you personally want to consider my opinion or not and I don't want your useless criticism. I want you to stop posting your opinions on me and start posting your opinions on anime and manga.
>Attention whoring?
No, that's exactly what you're doing by turning my opinion on an anime into your opinion on me. Nobody cares about your opinion on me, again, post your opinions on anime and manga or stop posting.

>>149124624
>MC is like an edgy version of Oreki
Oreki is edgy. He gets better, but even at the end of the series he's still just like "Ugh, I could tell this gorgeous girl who's all over me that I love her, but instead I'll mope about how human connections are hurtful and shit." He's frustrating to watch overall, the show writes romance in the most retarded way possible, so the story ending on Oreki pondering romance made for a terrible finale. I'm sure that whatever Zaregoto does, it can't be as bad as that.

>>149123129
Do you even know what a self-insert is? ii-chan is more of a self-insert than Araragi. Araragi is a unique MC as far as Nisio MCs go.

>>149125284
araragi isn't even nisio's self-insert so i never understood why faggots call him "self-insert"

>>149125284
>ii-chan is more of a self-insert than Araragi. Araragi is a unique MC as far as Nisio MCs go.
Sounds to me you're trying to convince yourself rather than convincing others.

>>149125284
>>149125378
>Ara not self insert
>I do not understand why people call him self insert
The character is a good-hearted perv, get a whole lot of girls to fall for him, suppose to be smart, wicked sense of humour, bla bla bla.
Is not hard to self-insert into something like that. He is not unique.

>>149125569
>>149125509

The point is that the term self-insert doesn't mean what you autists imply. A self-insert is someone like Dante in The Divine Comedy or Woody Allen in Manhattan. The term refers to the author of the story and not the readers/viewers.

>>149124741
>implying Nisio is a good writer

He's literally a hack.

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>>149105546
cannot unsee this

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I'm going to go on a limb and say either Megumi Ogata or Kamiyan for Zerozaki and Yui Horie for Mikoko once they touch the 2nd book.

>>149126285
I like the idea of Ogata as Zerozaki (can already hear her saying 傑作だ), not much Horie as Mikoko.

>>149126018
Thank god this site is getting shut down. People like you can die off.

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Why is SHAFT so good?

Why do we always have to wait for coalgirls to fix commie's shit?

>>149124624
>i spoiled myself on Zaregoto by reading a wiki or something

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>>149121329

I will look forward to the chance to see the best girl

>>149121329
I can't wait for that scene.

You ate all the evidence..." Zerozaki gazed at me in wonder. "Even the ribbon? The murder weapon? You ate something that had killed two people? That's fucking insane!"

>>149115042
Cause it's the first chapter of a novel? Literally just one chapter.

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>>149126285
I'd rather have Horie as Kouta. Though I heard they don't want Zaregoto to be voiced by the same people as Nisio's other adaptations.

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>>149121260
>butchered
You mean they were TOO faithful to EARLY take designs. take's early drawings aren't exactly stellar.

>>149127748
That sounds retarded.

>>149128085
No, I mean they butchered the designs, cut out important dialogue , and didn't bother to correct QUALITY animation despite being an OVA.

>>149128142
Cite the important dialogues that are removed.

QUALITY is subjective though a certain 3D portion's glaringly horrible, of which I agree.

>>149127748
Is that supposed to be something out of this world or something?
First time I read that novel, that wasn't the one thing that gives me so much of an impact.
It's just eating ribbon, what's the big deal?

>>149128142
Is this your first time seeing the adaptation of the novel that you already read?

>>149128644
These kids tend to behave like this. Translating novels was a mistake.

>>149128892
>everyone is an EOP like me

>>149124206
Nisio is a competent writer

>>149107042
Its Yuki Kajura.

This was neat, I liked the premise alot. Main girl is a top class QT. If someone showed me this and told me it was a Monogotari side story with characters in the same universe I would believe them.

>>149121177
banter is supposed to be entertaining

>>149120207
>SHAFT
>blue Madoka being cute
>Kalafina ED
For a moment I expected to hear Chiwa Saito, too.

>>149123450
>harem
>good

>>149130469
zaregoto is basically a harem

>>149130727
>zaregoto
>good

>>149130727
>failing reading comprehension
>you

>>149105546
>>149126244
That is definitely monkey, anon

So, was it good?

>>149131819
Chuuni garbage like Zaregoto is never good.

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>>149131819
It was pretty good. Shaft made lengthy conversations and dialogues entertaining. And Tomo-chan was super cute.

But in terms of pure writing, it's a skinny version to what you can get out of the LN.

>>149132360
>>149132878
Alright, good enough.

Any lewd scenes? Any FEET?

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>>149133043

>>149109199
>>149109280
I suppose there's a few.

>>149133172
This is pretty good. Is anyone subbing this on a Hi-10p encode?

>>149133280
Not yet. Gotta wait for better raw source.

Spoil me which waifu dies, LNfags

>>149105361
What episode of monogatari is this?

>>149133886
Whichever's your favorite.

>>149133886
Orange, Yellow, Dark Blue, Green die
Light Blue, Scarlet Red, Purple, Dark Red alive

I might've mixed Green with Dark Red, but one of them die. This is for the entire series, not just this episode.

>>149135801
Is the culprit for each murder the same person?

At the very least, Tomo was spot on.

Commie when?

>>149109636
Learn to speak english first nigger.

>>149136946
Don't care, he understand what I'm saying anyway.

Is this only volume 1? Volume 1 sucked.