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What did /a/ think about the ending to the anime Pokémon XY&Z?

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What did /a/ think about the ending to the anime Pokémon XY&Z?

Was it what you expected?
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>>149099996
Serena: Ash, you are my goal. And next time we meet I'll become a more attractive woman.


What did she mean by this?
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>>149099996
Yes.
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>>149099996
too bad ash becomes retarded in the next region
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>>149099996
Serena fucking off into oblivion after fucking nothing happening?

Yes.
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>>149100063
Slut
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I feel empty, that last segment with volt playing broke my heart, it's really over, no more cute Serena, no more Bonnie searching for a partner for onii-chan, no more best bro Clemont, it's really over but I want more, fuck this;_;
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Serena was literally the Pokemon girl version of Love Live or Idolmaster. And a waifu.
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rushed and emotionally inconclusive
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Ash and Serena both look 16 here.

Too bad this is the end of this art style. For once I actually believed Ash could have been wrapped up as a character, especially with it being the 20th year of the show. Too bad S/M looks so bad.
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I don't know why Serena kissu remind me about that episode Yusei Fudo from YGO 5D's "kissed" Aki.
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is it just me, or does serena look a little bit like ohana...??
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>>149100201
Misty ship sunk a long time ago.
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Does anyone have the link to the /a/ thread from last night?
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>>149100025
Bait.
It's meant to bait you.

You know very well we're never going to see her again.
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That's quite nice and supposed to be canon but only if they ended the anime right there.

That was their mistake, otherwise if there's another gen, then it all doesn't matter.
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>>149100258
There were at least 3.
Had this one open though
>>149063408
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>>149100136
She's my idolfu too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPaT72YvHU
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>>149100281

I love how the /a/ thread got more replies than the /vp/ thread.

That pretty much confirms Pokémon's roots on this website.
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>>149100157
Also, Ash was kissed by a girl who was probably Latias in the 5th pokemon movie. The XY staff might really feel pity to end it like this and that`s why they put easter eggs here.
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>>149100107
She didn't touch Johto.

>>149100617
Thing is in the movie it was a cheek kiss. This one went mouth kissing.

>>149100259
>>149100261
There's cameos, her doing contests sets her up for DP remakes, they pretty much prepared.
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Reminder that at the beginning of the episode, Ash's mom told everyone they were free to visit Ash's place anytime. Everyone got excited, and Serena was shown blushing.

This episode was loaded with headcanon fuel.
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>>149100780
>Ash, having lost yet another league, returns home to his house for a break, only to find Serena masturbating furiously in his bed.
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>>149100201
Misty is happily fucking Tracey.

You know it's true.
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>>149100438

because there's already a dedicated general that's existed the last 2 and a half years
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>>149100844
Oh my God. Is that true?
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wew lads
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>>149099996
>What did /a/ think about the ending to the anime Pokémon XY&Z?
Empty and hallow.
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>>149100128
I really liked all the traveling characters, made even the filler episiodes fun. Guess it will be years until it works out this nicely again.
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>Ash goes to Alola and hits it up with Lillie
UNACCEPTABLE
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>>149102285
Just classmates anon. Them doing the school, watch, they'll make Serena the mid-term transfer student.
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>>149102331
Wait, they're gonna make a fucking school show now?
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>>149102388
That's literally what SM is, Ash goes to school in Alola with Lillie, Sophocles, Lana, Kiawe, and Mallow as classmates. They're really making it seem more "comedy".

Yes, basically Yo-kai Watch.
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>>149100071
>Girl wants his dick and he ignores her
>Ash becomes retarded in the NEXT region
Always been retarded, always will be.
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>>149103078
Reported to wcd staff for begging on public sites, email blacklisted.
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>>149100025
she's going to drink her milk and massage her breasts every day
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>>149099996
I liked it but man the Amourshippers and falseflaggers really got ahead of themselves and ruined the /padt/ threads.
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>>149103230
steam?
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>>149103250
What?
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>>149103230
Kek, have you tried reading the threads in the past few hours? Basically, shitposters were falseflagging on both ends and amourfags are smug as fuck.

Though are you watching SM though?
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Post more cute blushing Serena please.
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>>149103780
It would be murder.
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>>149103953
Bring on the genocide.
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>>149103661
Maybe, if I have time.
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>>149100188
>Yusei Fudo from YGO 5D's "kissed" Aki.
Never bring that up ever again. There are people out there that still believe they kiss and delude others it's on the fucking DVD. I have the DVD version and the scene is the exact same as in the tv version.
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>>149100163
>an episode is a day or so
>30-40 episodes per seasons
>3 seasons per series

ash is about 14 or 15 years old here yeah
the marketing words say no but the artstyle says yes
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>>149102285
Nothing has been implied with Lillie, at all. There's no romantic subplots in SM.
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>>149099996
Serena is so perfect
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>Serena’s flight was “Latias H71" (it is said right before the kiss scene starts). Serena was going to Hoenn, so the #71 in the Hoenn dex is Mawile - or in Japanese, Kuchitto. Kuchi (Mouth) and To (with). Or in a rough translation, “Latias - but with the mouth”.

>It’s the writers saying: “We can’t actually show you what they did because of censors, but she basically did what Latias did in the 5th film, but with the mouth.”
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>>149100438
they doesn't like the anime so much and have the containment general for that, and is a massive cancerous circlejerk also the new info about the games is better
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>>149106402
>massive circlejerk
>on 4chan
What else is new?
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>https://twitter.com/mrjorgesnoopy/status/791586580632920064
damn the spics are more amourfags that anyone
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>>149106477
madoka threads levels of circlejerck
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>>149099996
I thought showing her feet on the escalator was a strong touch. It's a surprisingly good scene.
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>>149100107
I remember seeing people on /a/ argue it wouldn't happen. I don't even need to watch the show to know Ash passes through shittons of girls whenever there's a new game to promote.
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>>149104870

942 episodes to date.

Started at 10 years old

Assuming that every episode is exactly one day: 942/365 (1 year) = 2.58 years.

Ash is at are minimum 12.5 years old.

This is a massive underball because I'm pretty confident that many episodes took place over the span of 2 days or more. Not to mention travel time between cities.

Now I'm curious as to how much time has actually passed just based on episodes. Is there anyone here with enough autism to go through all the episodes?
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>>149105637
Wait is this actually true? That'd be a pretty cool Easter egg
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>>149107103
I don't understand nip, but the intercom ladies definitely mentioned an arrival of "flight latias something something", so at the least the planes are indeed named after pokemon
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>>149107081
one theory was that pokemon leagues are a summer activity and ash is at home with delia the rest of the time
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>>149107103
Check it at 5:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=353&v=DYvFvPCMM3c

I just checked the wikia too.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_Hoenn_Pok%C3%A9dex_number_(Generation_VI)#.23051_-_.23101_Goldeen_-_Swalot

It's legit. Which is kinda fucking crazy.
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>>149100438
The Pokemon anime general on /vp/ went through like 15 threads yesterday.
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>>149108672
That's actually awesome. I love when writers for games/movies/shows do things like this. Shows the human element behind all the marketing and whatnot.

It's subtle, but not so subtle to be some weird crazy fan conspiracy theory that requires like 10 degrees of separation between each step in the logic. It's pretty straightforward and seems entirely plausible that it was done intentionally.
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Wait, is Serena meant to be French?
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We got cucked from the league but we at least got this. It's something I guess.
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>>>/tg/49999999
>>>/tg/50000000
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>>149109770
french girl? yes. french language? according to behindthename it's #198 in france
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>>149110725
Fucking cirno. What a disappointment.
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>>149106597
Not really. It just gets hit by shitposters a lot.
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>>149110900
>posts cirno
>didn't get 5999999

what a disappointment indeed
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>>149100163
>especially with it being the 20th year of the show
Games anon. The shows 20th anniversary is next year
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He's like 40 or some stuff
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>>149110725
fucking why
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>>149108672
>flight kanto k91
>it's fucking cloyster

LMAO
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>>149115754
>there's a boyfriend/girlfriend pair in I think Platinum that challenge you to a double battle and their Pokemon are Onix and Cloyster
That was on purpose.
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>>149100163
Why did they improve the artstyle just to downgrade it horribly down the line.
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>>149104679

Seriously, why did they do this?
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>>149115879
i think it was hgss
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>>149100063
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>>149103780
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>>149103155
>Girl wants his dick and he ignores her
>invites her to travel with him
Literally the only person.
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>>149103780
>>149118376
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>>149103780
>>149118444
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>>149103155
Are you describing Ash from DP to BW?
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>>149100063
Their faces are golden
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If SuMo anime is as bad as its artwork hopefully it burns to the ground while simultaneously the Games are selling at an all-time high so they have no excuse but to blame it on the executive tv producers
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>>149119387
>SuMo
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I want to watch XY but the loss at the end is stopping me. Is it actually worth it?
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Poor serena. She'll never ser ash again
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>>149121795
She's not in Johto and Delia invited her to Pallet. She'll come back during SM as transfer student or make a cameo when Ash is back home.
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>>149099996


They are saving the pokemon series to become a Harem anime. where all the previous girls reappear, and they are all teenagers competing for Satoshi, more or less.
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>>149120872
Guess not. Thanks dudes.
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>>149120872
>>149122246
You could watch it for Team Flare.

>>149122093
>Harem
>saving
They kind of killed it with the kissing scene.
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>>149120872
Yes. The best Pokemon series so far by an extremely long shot.
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>>149120872
It's worth it. The loss is a downer and the net couple episodes after that are kinda dull but the finale is magical.
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>>149122419
>>149122438
>>149122501
Nice, just hoping for cute Ash&Serena stuff.
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>>149120872
Totally.

Let me just post the pasta:

This episode is largely agreed to be the best jump-on point.
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/%5BPM%5DPocket_Monsters_Best_Wishes_Season_2_Decolora_Adventure_20_My_Dream_-_Pokemon_Master!%5BH264_720P%5D%5B25F857B9%5D.mkv.torrent

It sets up the XY arc and XY episode 1 assumes you've seen it, so it's a better place to start than that.

Also, here's the viewing order pasta from /vp/

http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

Airing/viewing order:
Best Wishes Decolora Adventure 20 (not XY, but it's recommended you watch this first, since XY1 has a lot of callbacks to dialogue from it)
XY0
XY1-11
Complete Overview! Pocket Monsters XY Special!!
XY12-21
Best Wishes Season 2 Decolora Adventure Special - Iris VS Ibuki! The Road to Dragon Master!!
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act I
XY22-35
Movie 17 Guide
Movie 17 Premiere Special with TV Special
XY Movie 1 Short
XY Movie 1
XY36-49
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act II
XY50-54
New Year's Eve 2014 Super Mega Special
XY55-64
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act III
XY65-78
Movie 18 OVA
XY79-81
Movie 18 Appear! Special
XY Movie 2 Short
XY Movie 2
XY82-93
The Strongest Mega Evolution Act IV
XY&Z1-9
XY&Z Complete Overview Special
XY&Z10-33
Movie 19 Guide
Movie 19 Premiere Commemoration Special
XY Movie 3
XY&Z34-47

The six Hoopa's Appear! Operations specials aired alongside XY69-74

Note that the Strongest Mega Evolution specials are crucial to the plot, not optional side stories
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>>149122419
>They kind of killed it with the kissing scene.


Harem anime seem to back-peddle developments like that without any discretion though, if they wish to.
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>>149122609
Thanks you
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>>149122598
It has that in spades.
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>>149122633
Although again.
>Harem
>saving
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>>149122694
This will give me diabetes.
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>>149123263
So will Eureka. And that's the point.
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>>149123463
Eureka is precious.
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>>149118376
>Millefui's VA is doing Lillie

Serena BTFO
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>>149123673
>Ash shot Millefeui down during Master class
More like Millefeui's going to have salt poured on the wounds.
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>>149123830
That scene was amazing.
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>>149122694
Holy shit Ash. Does he like her too?
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>>149123549
A semen demon.
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>>149100258
>>149100281
It was a good thread.
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>>149124203
Pretty clear from a number of those pictures.
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>>149124217
>>149123549
>>149123463
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>>149124339
He has good taste.
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>>149124377
He has the best taste.
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>>149123549
I want to Impregnate Eureka.
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>>149124506
He's referencing this outfit, for the record.
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>>149124377
She didn't get the shock treatment from Pikachu either.
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>>149124238
>that picture
Well, I mean Ash won Serena long ago. Serena won now.
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>>149124512
>>149123463
>>149123549
>>149124362
>>149124217
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>>149124203
It's Ash, he only likes her as a friend and that's it. If he could he will marry Pikachu.
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>>149124588
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>>149099996
I hate Team Flare and all the time they waste. After the abortion of a league I stopped watching. Fuck that show.
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>>149124203
As a friend quite clearly, but some might say he starts to get it near the end, though that'd just be speculation. The only scene where he actually seems to understand is after the implied kiss, but even that is still left a bit ambiguous.
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>>149124667
You missed kissu
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>>149124790
Please don't make me go back. I'm still angry.
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>>149124829
You missed Ash inviting her out on a date too.
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>>149124637
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>>149124748
Dude the eyes he made.
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>>149124877
>>149124588
>>149124217
>>149123463
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>>149124870
STOP.
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So when does sun/moon start?
Any previews?
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>>149125005
November 17th.

[PV1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_2ADXIyEa4
[PV2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIJnSG3YqM
[PV3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawFb1MoWio
[PV4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPj5Db8JqGg
[PV5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCVWBQP7JCQ
[PV6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6B-n0al77c
[PV7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh6itH1JkXc
[PV8] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgaWYss2z0k
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>>149124954
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>>149125025
Thanks.
What's the deal with the style change?
Makes ash look younger then 10.
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>>149125151
Gotta get those Yokai Watch viewers boi
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>>149125309
it fucking sucks
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>>149125151
I don't know and I don't like it.
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>>149125107
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>>149099996
Am I the only one who thinks Gary Oak's older sister is the hottest girl tied with Ash's mom?

Misty's two older sisters aren't that bad either.
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>>149100063
>not hitting that
ash is a faggot
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I used to be a mayfag but damn Serena grew on me
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>>149125151
Were you living under a rock for the past 4 months?
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>>149125058
I don't think any of those girls liked Ash except Misty.
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>>149125826
Yes.
I don't normally pay attention to Pokemon
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ALRIGHT! LINE UP YOU CRIMINALS
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6 year timeskip harem pokemon anime when?
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>>149126071
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>>149125025
why does ash become retarded in S/M?
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What did the writers mean by "End to our on way". It almost seems like don't like the direction the series is heading.
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>>149126177
It's just "le funny wackyness lol" as viewer bait. The latest news on the series played up his battling skills.
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>>149126177
That's not Ash that's Serena's and Ash's kid with the same name as his Father.
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So apparently the director kind of lets it out that Serena won.
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>>149126177
That's what happen when a kid participate in SM.
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>>149126071
Calm down and enjoy the Pokélolis.
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This is a 10 year old girl.
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>>149126685
I want to impregnate that little girl.
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>>149126426
Based director.
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>>149099996
Is Pokemon the most NEET friendly fictional world?

I can't think of any other fictional world where it is perfectly fine to be a 10 year old school dropout.
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>>149126908
Pretty sure most shows like Yugioh and whatnot would let people cruise along on the skills in card games no matter what kind of schooling they have
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>>149126426
>>149126783
No way. He fucking confirmed it too?
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>>149127015
He said it was the correct answer on twitter.
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Is Ash still 10?
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>>149127067
Yes.
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>>149127041
What a madman.
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>>149104679
Is Ash Italian now?
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>>149127156
Ash/Serena is obviously intended endgame, but it may not matter with the anime about to go through a reboot.
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>>149127280
That doesn't mean they can't continue this after Sun and Moon.
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Will Serena ever return in future seasons.
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>>149127385
Most likely. All the other girls have apart from Iris, and she's Iris.
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>censoring kissing

The fuck
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>>149127280
It depends how they go about it with SM and after. Fact of the matter is Ash/Serena is the endgame for when Pokemon ends.

They might decide to have Serena cameo as a transfer student for part of the time in the tailend of SM, after at his house, shit like that.
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>>149122609
before watching XY do i have to watch BW ? I remember watching the originals and DP though.
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>>149127449
Each series is self-contained. You can start at the first XY episode.
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>>149127385
Probably. If you follow character status quo, she's not in purgatory (Johto), Delia invites her to Ash's house. Character appearance is kind of iffy because girls would show up, but Iris didn't. Although something to take into account is that Iris wasn't liked.

>>149127408
Mouth to mouth.
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>>149127449
Just follow that guide. Decolora Adventure 20 takes place after Satoshi has separated from his BW friends, and is returning home together with Pansy, a reporter he met some episodes earlier that traveled with the group for a short while since she was on her way to Kanto to interview professor Okido.

Pansy is from Kalos, so most of that episode is spent setting up Satoshi's desire to travel there as well.
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>>149127280
Or maybe not that far in time. Serena might come back again like every other past pokegirl (except Iris)
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>>149125463
>Gary Oak's older sister
I have never heard of this character.
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>>149126685
This is the same girl after she stopped using padding
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>>149127556
>>149127516
Is there some sort of time-line / Inforgraphics explaining events in each series? I want to get into Pokemon again but don't feel I have enough time to watch through every episode.
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>>149127734
She doesn't exist in the anime.
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>>149127849
Not really, but as mentioned, each series is relatively self-contained and references to old shit tends to get properly explained.
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>>149127734
Daisy Oak . Search her up
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>>149127790
Dawn a best.
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>>149127895
XY also more or less goes out of its way to not reference things from earlier series.
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>>149126908
The world pretty much revolves around Pokemon.
You could become a great Pokemon scholar like Oak, or just a very strong trainer like Lance or Steven, and you'd get respect.

Gym Leaders are also held in high regard.
As long as you do something with Pokemon you're set.
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>>149127968
>dawnfags BTFO'd so hard by Serena
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>>149128061
It does do some references if you've seen previous series.
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>>149128167
It does, but nearly all of them will just look like generic dialogue if you haven't.
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>>149127968
Chicken a best.
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>>149126908
>Is Pokemon the most NEET friendly fictional world?
Fuck no. More like the most /out/ friendly world if anything. To be a trainer you have to go out in the wild and train and survive and travel and more.

You will never a trainer, gym leader, e4 or even a professor if all you do is sit your NEET ass at home. Being involved with Pokemon and give yourself a name with them is a 24/7 work.
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Man, XY series was so fucking awesome.
Didn't expect it to be this good after the horror show that was BW.

Also

> best Gen6 mon gets his own theme song

Based Luchabull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ0Q6HmuHbk
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>>149128273
BW still has one of my absolute favorite episodes in the entire series.
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>>149128273
>When Noivern gets jobbed by Weaville and Hawlucha comes out of his Pokeball on his own to take revenge on the fucker who beat his son
Best fucking dad.

Ash XY team was overflowing with personality, everyone Pokemon were actually. I'll really miss Yamcham, Dedenne, Bunnelby and even Harry Melon even if all he did was being a fat fuck who fucked up everything he touched.
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>>149128406
I loved how radically different personalities Harimaron and Hari-san had. Wish they'd have interacted more.
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>>149128406
Too bad Ash still lost the battle and it all meant absolutely nothing in the end for the sixth time.
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>>149100063
Who is this? Misty 2.0?
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>>149128558
It was so frustrating. It was the perfect chance, it was not even like in DP where Ash' goal was to prove Paul wrong and beat the shit out of him, there was no subplot, just league. Everything was on point and they blew it. If even the animators were mad imagine how mad must have been the people forced to write Ash losing again. Fucking old men in suits ruin everything for everyone.
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>>149128744
I guess it's just time to accept that the Pokemon anime, much like Pretty Cure, Dragon Ball, One Piece, and every single Toku series, has just become a massive advertisement, quality be damned.
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>>149128664
Misty 2.0 is Iris.
That is Ash's canonical waifu, Serena.
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>>149100063
>Ash takes a hesitant step back

TOP KEK
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>>149128744
Technically there was. Those last few league episodes really made it clear Alan was "fighting for Manon".
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>>149128787
Most anime are ads for something.

Precure has it's moments. I didn't like GoPri much but it's undeniable that the staff put all it's heart and blood on it.

Super is mostly suffering from production issues because Toei gotta Toei.

Wan Piss though, there's no excuse.
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>>149128406
And then when best dad gets beat up by Zapdos Noivern evolves to save his has and take revenge.


Fuck man, Ash's Kalos team was ace.
However, I am a bit salty they had to make him have his own totally NOTMEGAEVOLUTION GUYS for Greninja.

He has 4 fucking Mega able Pokemon in Sceptile, Glalie, Charizard, and Heracross.

Still, the scenes with Ash-Greninja were awesome. Especially his battle with Diantha
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>>149128850
Which is bullshit because there's no fucking development of their relationship before the big bad thing happens to Hari-san and suddenly he needs to protect her smile.
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>>149128919
They really needed more episodes, but Act II makes it pretty clear Manon has traveled with him for a while. The opening narration to Act IV also blatantly spells out how much Manon means to him.
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>>149128913
And now with Alola being all muh z-moves the chances of mega are very unlikely again. It's a big bummer.

Maybe when the Alola League opens in the anime it'll happen, I'm not betting on it though.

>>149128919
Didn't you watch the specials?
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>>149100063
fukken saved
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>>149128913
>He has 4 fucking Mega able Pokemon in Sceptile, Glalie, Charizard, and Heracross.

Five if you count Pidgeo....oh wait
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Someone got that screencap detailing why people thought Ash would win the league this time?
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>>149128999
Those Manon's Mega Evolution Diary things really should have been in the form of actual snippets from Alan and Manon's journey showin them bond instead of the "Manon info dumps crap you probably don't care about" format they had.
Those things were all new animation anyway.
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>>149129024
>And now with Alola being all muh z-moves the chances of mega are very unlikely again. It's a big bummer.


Yeah, I had high hopes for Ash using Mega evolution, would also be a great chance to shine some light on his older mons.

But we all know that IF he'd use Mega Evolution it would have been fucking Charizard.

Not that I don't like Charizard, but it would have been a great chance to give his other mons like Sceptile or Heracross some love.

Especially Sceptile man, I love that mon in general, and his Mega is awesome.

Still, Z-moves have potential to give us awesome Tokusentai or JoJo poses.
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I can't really believe they didn't wrap up ash with this anime. It would be fucking perfect.
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>>149129212
I'm glad they didn't. I like him and want to keep following his adventures.
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>>149101196
It's sort of implied by the Azuril
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>>149100063
>Ash no reaction
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>>149128153
Why?
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>>149129210
>>But we all know that IF he'd use Mega Evolution it would have been fucking Charizard.
I'm still mad X vs Y got wasted on fucking Trevor.
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>>149129234
They wouldn't need to retire him either, he could have won the league and got to the "World Championship", which Cynthia actually talks about in one episode.

Also, you must be the only person in the entire earth.

>>149128744
Fucking writers, they should've stepped their feet and refused. Spineless cowards.
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>>149129273
>no reaction
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>>149129234
>I like him and want to keep following his adventures.
>Wins the league
>Gets rekt by the E4 or Diantha
>Oh shit I won the league but there's still more to do I still have to get stronger
>Mom says she wanna go on a vacation to celebrate me winning the league
>Oh shit there's something that's not a normal league system in here let's do this now because it's different from the usual

There. Was this really that hard?
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>>149100136
Now I can see her singing Angelic Angel here >>149100186

Except raibus aren't sluts who kiss boys around
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At least this is canon in the anime
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>>149100063
>dat confused look
oh Ash.
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>>149129395
She only kissed one and she became said guy's canon waifu.

>>149129423
This too.
>>149126426
>>149126783
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>>149129304
Yeah, especially since Ash's Zard would suit the Y Mega perfectly. The only physical thing it has ever done was Seismic Toss. The rest of the time it's spamming Flamethrowers and Overheats and shit. Y would be perfect for his Zard.

But alas.

It would have been so awesome.

> LIZARDON! MEGA SHINKA!!|
> Ikou Z starts playing
> Charizard flies up in front of the sun
> ROARS like a boss
> mega evolves
> Sun becomes more bright
> Comes crashing down with a devastating Flamethrower.


;_;
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>>149129451
They had the eye shimmer it clicked.

Feels like Nardo during that one Hinata moment.
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>>149126426
well at least that settles that thing, the anime might have gone to shit but at least they saved her ending
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>>149100063
how is Pikachu handling this??
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>>149129609
see
>>149118631
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>>149129395
Well, they did give her this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjYkcQIITA
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>>149129609
He pairs both.
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>>149128744
>notthisshitagain.png
Alright, this has gone on far enough. Last time you tried to pull this shit, you got proved how stupid your idea was. Just stop this line of thought, finish up the rest of the thread and then head back to /padt/. There is nothing for you here.
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>>149129609
He didn't do shit to Serena in the beginning, so she was approved as Ash's waifu.
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>>149129498
;_;
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>>149129674
Are you alright anon?
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>>149129609
Not his first time he saw Ash being kissed. Then again, it's not like she will ever be relevant again,
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>>149129651

>gotta proxy it

Fucking Sony
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>>149129651

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J74ZphILN8

I am so mad she lost this performance. It was awesome and kawaii as fuck.
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>>149129730
Yeah. I'm alright. Just saying your entire post has been done to death, here, /padt/ and even /v/. Outside of /padt/, most people had agreed that trying to change the status quo is an incredibly stupid idea. You repeating this again is getting incredibly tedious.
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>>149100163
to this.
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>>149129734
Serena got the lip kiss, and you're saying as if they wouldn't have her show up for cameos.
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>>149129842
DORAGUN DESU
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>>149129795
>Outside of /padt/
Yeah anon, because the opinions, thoughts and voices of the people who haven't touched the anime past kanto and only watched it dubbed are more knowledgeable and of more worth than the ones of the people who have actually been watching for years and know staff and the such.

>You repeating this again is getting incredibly tedious.
Well, that's your problem m8. Chill a little.
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>>149129843
And? It's a kiss. What exactly are you expecting is going to happen next? They declare their mutual love for each other and she stays with him and they hook up? Oh, wait. No she didn't. She left and will no longer become relevant, like the rest of the other companions for the nearly past 20 years. I have no idea why you suddenly think that she will be the lone exception. That this is the time to change the status quo despite it ending the same way as always.
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>>149129947
Chill, m8
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>>149129947
>LOL THEY ACTUALLY THINK SERENA WILL KISS OR DO ANYTHING WITH ASH YOU AMOURFAGS ARE SO DELUDED
>Serena actually kisses Ash
>W-WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY WILL GO BACK TO THE STATUS QUO NEXT EPISODE STAY MAD AMOURFAGS
Imagine being as pathetic as you that you have to move the goalpost just to be able to deal you were wrong about a children anime.
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>>149129933
Because it has been done to death. Over, and over, and over again. You're not discussing anything new here. You're just regurgitating the same lines again like this is a general.
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>>149129947
> M-MUH STATUS QUO
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>>149099996
Didn't Serena have tits in the games?
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>>149129991
I am chill. I just have no idea why you guys are so adamant that this kiss means anything more down the line. I've seen this thing played out for nearly a decade, I really don't get how she is going to be any different than any other companion from the past seasons.

>>149130008
What goalpost? That the kiss ultimately means nothing in the great scheme of things?
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>>149129947
Boy did you get the shaft. >>149126783

You also know about lip kissing endgame shit.
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>>149130072
She got deaged for the anime. But she still has them, the anime just isn't very good at keeping tit sizes consistent.
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>>149130072

Yeah. Serena is supposed to be at least 16 years old in the game (a 16 years old girl is considered younger than the main player character in one of the post game quests), but she was reduced to 10 in the anime to match Ash.
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>not realizing chicken is the best pokegirl
>current year
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>>149130189
Her fanbase seems to have collapsed since she apparently won't be in the anime. Too bad.
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>>149130118
Mate, this is /a/, not /padt/. I have seen many on-the-lips kiss that ultimately results in love interests becoming the loser. I have seen more lewd things that resulted in a grand total of zero flag raising. And that's not mentioning the fact that Serena ultimately did end up leaving. You will need some incredibly compelling evidence to prove that Serena is the final girl and not just another companion that's to be replaced at the end of every season.
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>>149130269
You seem incredibly obsessed with shitting on other people's enjoyment of things, anon.
Chill.
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>kiss then goodbye

Why would you like this ending? If you shipped them then your ship was destroyed and barely validated.
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>>149130368
As a wise conman once said, it's better than nothing.
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>>149130269
Not to mention a girl kissing the MC early/halfway through the series means she lost already, you are supposed to save the kiss for the final of the series. Don't even bother, those shippers from /vp/ are blinded by their own delusions and don't even watch that much anime.
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>>149129646
yah, pika looks pretty upset imo.
poor guy.
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>>149130400
>you are supposed to save the kiss for the final of the series
It was the last XY episode,retard
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>>149129798
what did she mean by this??!
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>>149130269
I gave you the word of god in my previous post.

Status quo would supposedly dictate that she never appears again because Iris didn't while the same status quo dictates that unneeded characters go to Johto and she's not there.

I've seen many that result as the loser, but I've seen many more as the winner. Going with anime rules, Serena pretty much raised the winning flags already.
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>>149130346
You're the one that's trying to convince people that the kiss means Serena had won despite the fact that she ended up leaving. Telling me to chill instead of an actual rebuttal doesn't make your point any less wrong.
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>>149130446
but anime is still airing, retard.
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>>149130400
It was the last episode. Dial back your salt and damage control a bit, now.
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>>149130487
>he watches the dub
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>>149129609
Pikachu was not threatened as he knows he has Ash's heart for eternity.
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>>149130400
>a girl kissing the MC early/halfway through the series
She did it at the end of the series.

>>149130368
A few posts up and you'll see that Director man says it's game.
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>>149130368
I'm still mad. Just less mad.
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>>149130506
It wasn't, a new season is about to begin in case you forgot.
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>>149129727
>Tfw they gave a pokegirl a maid outfit
Just another reason that Dawn is best girl.
Cynthia is second place.
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>>149130477
Considering how many directors and writers Pokemon has gone through, I would like to know why I should take this word of god as canon over any of the other 20 years worth of words of god.
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>>149130564
She didn't. Do you think the anime ended or what?
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Why does it feel like that guy that always comes into Pokemon threads to shitpost and randomly bring up /vp/ just arrived?
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>>149130635
People are posting screencaps from /vp/. It was inevitable.
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>>149130368
When it comes to a show like Pokemon that kiss is more than likely more than any other possible ship this show has now or will have in the future.
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>>149130635
Which guy? Because from what I can tell, there's like several of them, each with their own agenda to shitpost in these threads. You even have shitposters that likes to accuse other people as being other shitposters to discredit their post.
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>>149130582
Writers have been the same from the beginning with a couple of additions and a couple of subtractions, only three directors, head writer's been the same since DP and he wrote that episode, and I'm pretty sure the director told said head writer to put it in. He even said he put a hidden message.

As for directors, only been three
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>>149130711
So, three words of god, and we're getting a new one for the next season. So why is this one so much more canon than the rest?
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>>149130606
You do know the XY series ended already, and Serena doing what she did was of the end of it.

Hell, taking the most hated thing, Nardo's still up and running even though the main of it is done.
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>>149130773
What "rest" are you even talking about?
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>>149130788
Not that guy but why are comparing a shounen series to kids show like pokemon? Naruto has far more continuity than the pokemon anime.
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>people expecting continuity in pokemon
>expecting anything to come of this

I like to think of it as a collection of AU stories.
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>>149130829
Why is what this director put down as 'the canon ship' any more credible that what the SM director is going to put out? Or hell, what if the previous director had said he supported Misty, are we suppose to believe AshXMisty would actually be canon as well?
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>>149130886
So you don't even have any words of god to refer to? How surprising.

Go back to /v/ or wherever you came from now.
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>>149130872
I'm just saying because they were pulling shounen series elements.

I mean for the record of things Pokemon does have some continuity.
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>>149130980
Of course there isn't any words of god, because it doesn't matter when it's a 20 year long franchise with multiple directors. Not to mention, this isn't even the original director, so you can't even claim this is how it was suppose to originally end up. Claiming word of god when there are multiple people that can put up such a claim is utterly worthless, especially when the real word of god is the people funding the anime aka GF.
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>>149116044
They do it every time.
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>>149131056
Yeah but that was in XY, which is also considered the series with less continuity so far, and now it seems like they are trying the to achieve polar opposite with SM. Applying continuity in pokemon is the last thing one should do.
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>>149130886
Besides him putting it down now rather than waiting years down the line like Hidaka did? He talked about how he left a message right after the episode. And how is saying that your one director supporting Misty correlate to AshxMisty being canon to a director just pretty much saying that another pairing is?
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>>149131311
Just fyi, no previous director ever referred or hinted to any girl as being in love with Ass. In fact, Shudo (in charge of the original series) actually derided any sense of romance between Ash and a girl. He also kinda hated Ash, though.
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>>149131234
XY had your continuity. Hell, it started with Alexa bringing Ash and she appeared during BW. The questionable thing is what they'll do with SM continuity-wise.
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>>149131411
Shudo was a writer, though. Hidaka and Suto never said anything meanwhile Yajima comes out to say it.

He's pretty much been the only word of god over Ash and a girl.
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>>149131411
>Ass

>>>/y/outube
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>>149131411
>Just fyi, no previous director ever referred or hinted to any girl as being in love with Ass.
I may be misremembering, but I pointedly recall S1 Misty getting kind of assblasted the one time Ash had a crush on that ace trainer girl,
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>>149131714
He's talking about the director talking about anything relating to a girl and Ash.

The Giselle thing was there but that's also the time when the writers were pretty much fucking around until the figured where to take things. I think that was around the time the. S.S. Anne happened.
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>>149131311
Did you completely missed the words 'what if'? The point isn't if another director has said if a ship is canon or not, it's the fact that there are several people that can claim word of god status. Claiming the words of one director is more canon than another is how shit gets confusing. I mean, under your line of logic, since Rupert Sanders is the director of Ghost in the Shell, does that mean his movie is the definite canon of the franchise? Bayformers is the one true Transformer? Peter Parker is a loser that's willing to fuck up the entire Marvel-verse and his marriage to save his aunt?
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>>149131811
Episode 9. Of nearly a 1000.
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>>149131190
Comon man that's just an evolution of the same style.
this shit is full derp
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>>149131862
>director of show puts a message in an episode and explains it on Twitter later
>but but but what if someone else maybe says something at some point
Dude
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>>149131961
You're just completely missing the point of my post. It's not if he had said it, it's the fact that you're claiming one director's words as the final canon status of the entire franchise, especially if it overrides the wills of the actual gods AKA GF.
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>>149132045
Stop it, m8. This is just pathetic at this point.
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>>149131862
>He talked about how he left a message right after the episode.
>Besides him putting it down now rather than waiting years down the line like Hidaka did?
I'm literally giving you the words of a guy who currently worked and aired an episode over your other "god" that waited until he was done for almost a year before he spoke.
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>>149132063
And you're not even refuting my point anymore and resorting to ad-hominems.
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>>149132126
You're literally saying "the word of god doesn't count because some other god might say something else in 20 years".
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>>149132126
It's someone else you're talking about.
This is my post >>149132111.

Funny thing is, he's not wrong.
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>>149132111
There was a follow-up post that addresses your post, here:
>>149132045
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>>149100063

dat pikachu reaction
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>>149132210
19 years and no word of god spoke of Ash/main girl, so I don't see where he's going with this.
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>Serena unlocked Ash's puberty
>Ash will now look at chicks differently
>Lillie swoops in and wins
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>>149132245
That doesn't even address my post, especially when GF even gave the green light for it to even be done.
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>>149100063
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>149132210
That's the thing about multiple directors for a long-running franchise, none of it really matters when the actual owners of the franchise speaks out. It's canon, but only as far as what he had worked on. But beyond that, both before and after what he had worked on, what he had said, simply no longer applies if the other directors does not want it to.
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>>149132286
He's just shitposting. He already tried claiming this show had had tons of writers come and go over the years to defend his "point".
>>
Why can't they just keep Serena for Sun and Moon?
Why does this faggot company keep removing girls as they get better and better with each passing game/region?
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>149132309
>Lillie sends pictures of her and Ash fucking

Doujins when
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>>149132286
Probably holding out hope that something will refute the simple present state of things.
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>>149132351
Yeah, and if in SM they greenlit another romance, would Serena still be considered end-game? Of course, the director did clarify it was done 'in secret', so it's not suppose to be officially in.
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>>149132309
>Serena unlocked the puberty
>XY had him essentially "Pokemon, Serena, Pikachu, Battle" in a constant loop
>Serena's gone so now he'll be busy with "Pokemon, Pikachu, battle" until Serena returns
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It looks like Ash will be alone in Alola and if he needed companions they will mostly be temporary

Alola is pretty small and the Orange Islands are bigger
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>>149130231
It's pretty sad how almost every new girl that was revealed kept overshadowing chicken-chan
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>>149132436
I don't think even Sakuracucks went "well maybe Naruto loves her after all and maybe Kishimoto will write a story saying Hinata was secretly evil or an illusion or something, so we should just ignore this marriage thing".

Come the fuck on.
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>>149132416
>Red sends pictures to Ash of him and Serena fucking in Alola

... ... ...
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>>149132546
Alola's going to be him going to school. Basically Yo-kai Watch. Lillie and the trial leaders are students for school.
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>>149129842
Which studio and why does it look so horrendous? Did they hire unpaid artists to do this?
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>>149132416
>To Serena
>From: Mrs. Ketchum
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>>149132639
Still OLM, and it's a cherrypicked screenshot.
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>>149132612
Well, if the current mangaka of Boruto actually goes and does that, what then? Would that still be considered to be canon over what Kishimoto had written?
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>>149132636
That brown Fire type one looks so out of place. Aren't some of them a bit old for school? This must be some special type of school instead of normal school.
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>>149132610
You're late I believe. >>149126783
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Does this mean in XY timeline, Ash marries Serena?
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>>149132610
Yes >>149126783
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>>149132639
>>149132669
Why did they change the art style? Ash literally looks like he is brain dead
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>>149132694
Mallow and Kiawe are kind of out of place.
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>>149132755
It's to make the animation look more fluid.
And again, cherrypicked screenshot.
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>>149132694
It is. It's to learn about z-moves and possibly about the trials.
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>>149132612
It wouldn't surprise me if that's how their fanfics go
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>>149132723
XY timeline is from OS-XY, and essentially. How they go about with SM is the question and whether they tie it to other series.
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I can imagine how S&M might start:

>"Hello Ash."
>"Hi Mom!"
>"I have a surprise for you: since you have been losing all your championship fights I'll send you to a special pokemon school for you to learn some more powerful moves for your team!"
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>>149132755
>Ash literally looks like he is brain dead
Here's a random shot where he looks perfectly fine.
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>both Red and Ash exist within the same universe
What a strange world we live in
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>>149132923
We actually do know how it starts. Ash finds the school by accident, so him going to Alola for the explicit purpose of going to school isn't how it goes. Seems like he's just there for a vacation with his mother.
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>>149132723
>"Ash, you are my goal. And next time we meet, I'll become a more and more attractive woman."
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>>149132980
>vacations

Wasn't that how the Unova anime started?
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>>149133006
>And next time we meet
topkek
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>>149133074
Yes.
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>>149133006
>And next time we meet
Is never.
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>>149133085
>>And next time we meet
Cameos. Delia invites Serena to Ash's house and she isn't in the Johto purgatory.
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>>149133160
But she's not really meeting with Ash, is she?
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>>149133097
>>149133160
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So is Sun and Moon going to be the next Black and White? That season was pretty painful, and while I'd rather not make hasty judgement, the premise and art shift for this one isn't making me feel very optimistic.
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>>149133200
>Ash returns to his house after shit
>Serena drops by

or alternatively

>school antics
>Serena becomes mid-term transfer student
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>>149133261
Is Serena popular?

You'd think she'd tag along for at least one more season.
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>>149133092
I thought the Unova anime was shit.
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>>149133290
Popularity, she and Dawn are pretty neck in neck and they're both pretty popular.
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>>149133290
If she was suppose to come along, they would have pulled a Brock and have her come along already, not have a farewell kiss and then leaving. She's gone.
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>>149133320
Johto was shit too and that started with "Ash travels to a new region because he heard there is a leauge there".
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>>149132636
Except Yokai Watch was less about actually being in school and more about whatever spirit happened to run into Keita that day.
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>>149133387
She could be back like Bork
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>>149133320
It was.

>>149133290
She was extremely popular, going off fanart alone shows that. I think there was also a poll, but I don't recall the specifics.

People actually thought she was going to be the next Brock, carrying over as a permanent member of the party. But I guess they wanted to change things up again.

Depending on Sun and Moon's popularity, they might leave her be, or bring her back to boost ratings.
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>>149133387
Brock left all the time after every series. I wouldn't even say gone because the "gone" characters go to Johto.
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>>149133320
Honestly, SM feels more like the union of Orange Leagues and Frontier.
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>>149133290
Pokemon isn't a romantic series and will never be.
After the kiss it would be impossible to keep her, since the writers would have to address her and Satoshi's relationship.

So, maybe she'll make some appearances later one, like all the other girls have, but she's unlikely to become a recurrent character again.
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>Lillie is an even older childhood friend of Ash...and a real childhood friend not some kid Ash helped and he forgot along the way

(lol
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>>149133488
She still is pretty popular.

The poll you're talking about is about short haired girls. I believe Serena placed pretty high with big name girls from other anime.
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>>149133488
Boost what ratings? XY ratings continued the anime franchise's slow decline like all of the previous seasons.
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>>149133508
That's the thing, they had every reason to bring her along, but they ultimately didn't. It really doesn't bode well for her and any future cameos.
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>>149133540
that's actually the genius of Serena's character, she isn't a "childhood friend" despite meeting Ash earlier, it means she is free from the "childhood friend loses" garbage

it's like Hinata
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>>149133514
Being fair, it wasn't SoL either but here we are at school.

>>149133592
That steady decline is about TV ratings and people watching less of it.
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>>149133636
Brock doesn't show up until the next series starts anyway. Another guy even pointed out how it'd work out.

>>149133261
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>>149133666
Yeah, what other rating would that other anon (or was that you) would be referring to about giving the rating a boost? For all the supposed great things people say about XY, it ultimately didn't really increase its popularity. There really have no reason to bring her back for any supposed boost to ratings.
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>>149133666
Yeah, but the school part would still keep it as a Japanese children's show.
Romance, not so much.

Furthermore, a school setting wouldn't necessarily have to mess with the setting or need a development on itself, romance, on the other hand, would.
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I was watching the reactions in youtube. To think that people waited YEARS for Ash to finally kiss the main girl.

And here we still didn't get that, instead we have the girl kiss Ash. Yet they're all "YES! YES! THEY FINALLY DID IT! WTF! FUCKING HELL! THEY DID IT!"
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>>149133753
you miss the part where they get married
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>>149133716
No offense, but they have three female companions already. Adding another one would be a bit too much. Not to mention, it would just turn her into a stereotypical jealous shrill. Is this what you really want?
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>>149100063
Fucking degenerate! Running up the down escalator is illegal.
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>>149133788
Yes I did. Which episode is that?
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>>149133746
It's in the top 10 most watched series that week nearly every single week. The entire "low ratings will probably be canceled soon" shit fagots keep spamming is just pure shitposting. Pokemon XY is more watched than nearly every other anime series that's aired the last 10 years.
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>>149133790
Really, the only time Serena got jealous was when a girl did some trying to get to Ash, like Millefeui or in her mistake Premier. I'm just pointing out what another guy suggested.
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>>149133893
at the end
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>>149133947
You're misreading my post. I said slow decline, not complete flop. It's ratings did not increase despite people claiming how great it is. Meaning, Serena would do absolutely nothing to boost the rating for SM if she showed up.
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>>149133666
I hope you don't seriously believe it will become a SoL like the ones people without taste in this board love to consume. It's still fucking Pokemon.
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>>149133952
And i'm telling you, since SM is focusing on comedic SoL school hijinks, would you seriously believe they wouldn't amp up her jealousy for laughs? Especially when Ash is surrounded by three cute girls? And doubly especially, since it's one of frequently overused cliches of love interest?
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I just want to see jellyfish-chan try to win the Satoshibowl and pretend to be human all the time.

Can you even catch Ultra Beasts?
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How will they lead to the ultimate conclusion of pokemon, like the legitimate end? I'm guessing Ash will forever remain 10 and they will supposedly leave a half-assed ambiguous premise concurrent within every single end to a series >>>"Now for his next adventure.."
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>>149134254
No, just fight and kill them.
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>>149134299
The only way the anime ends is if the games side crashes and burns, which means the ending will be rushed as all hell and open ended as fuck.
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>>149134254
There are shiny UBs so there is a possibility.
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>>149134150
The premise of Ash in Alola is being in school. It's pretty much crossing the SoL territory.
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>>149134103
Hi, I was the first anon that made the post about her boosting shit.

What I meant is that every episode they titled baiting the Serenafags this season (like the Serena and Ash on a date!) always saw a boost in viewership. What I'm saying is that if they see the new series in a bit of a slump they may give Serena a reappearance (like in previous seasons), just to get a temporary boost in viewership.
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>>149134299
It ends with Ash taking all of his bitches as wives. And then no one will be happy, especially the shippers.
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>>149134449
But a temporary boost in viewership does absolutely nothing, especially since purpose of the anime is to advertise for the game. How would Serena making a re-appearance make more people buy the game?
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>>149134165
Honestly, they'd probably do shit like interrupting times when Ash and Serena are alone and shit rather than jealousy antics.
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>>149134575
Best Wishes got turned into Best Wishes Season 2 to promote Black 2 and White 2, and one of the first and most promoted thins they did was to bring back Hikari.
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WHY IS POKEMON XY&Z SO GOOD AND POKEMON BW SO SHITTY.
WHERE IS MY TEAM PLASMA ARC.
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why does she wear that stupid, dumb hat?
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>>149134575
You do know the anime is it's own thing, which sells a shit ton of merchandise you know? It isn't solely for marketing the game.

If that were the case then why in the fuck would they made it over a hundred episodes each region?
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>>149134404
SM looks more like a gag series than a SoL.
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>>149100063
damn, we'll be hearing about this shit for the next decade
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>>149134692
>WHERE IS MY TEAM PLASMA ARC
Did you drop it before it started or something?

Don't worry, it was shitty as hell.
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>>149134575
>How would Serena making a re-appearance make more people buy the game?
Not that guy but there's something on this.That seems like something that'd go on supposed DP remakes. Right now they have Serena off in Hoenn doing contests.DP has contests and shit so really they could bring her back for that. There's the custom character thing to and Serena's pretty much an OC character. The stuff's pretty much there.
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>>149134575
>How would Serena making a re-appearance make more people buy the game?
Who the fuck said it would make people buy the game? The majority of the game sales will be the initial release, the anime runs for way too long to just be for selling copies of the game.

They also get money from merchandise, licensing the show for international release, people buying the show, and a bunch of other random shit. The games aren't the only source of income. This isn't the same as those throwaway anime seasons meant to push copies of a light novel.
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>>149134768
All time actually. >>149126783
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>>149134366
I suppose so. But without sales and revenue plummeting without reason the Pokemon company would literally have no excuse to keep eternally milking the series seeing as revenue scales are relatively stable in the past 5 years. Expect another conan-like franchise that will remain prominent for atleast another 10 years revolving around never aging characters without any given conclusion to the story.
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>>149134726
Because it's a hundreds of episode until the next game comes out. And despite what you think, the anime itself makes money that is woefully small compared to the rest of the franchise, especially since said merchandise (baring Ash and Pikachu) is mostly based off of the games.
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>>149135035
The anime itself isn't the money maker, it's the merchandise it promotes. The games mainly bring the money in during the first couple of months of release day.
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>>149135127
The anime is but one of the advertising venues that GF uses, not the only one. I mean, why do people go and pay money to watch Pokemon movies? To get the free stuff for their games. You are overstating the importance the anime has of the franchise. It's a key part of its marketing strategy, but it's not its main nor biggest one.
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>>149126783
I knew there was something up with those flowers upon rewatching the episode, but not being nipponese I didn't exactly get it.
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>>149135328
Not even the nips got it until Yajima said there was a message there on Twitter.
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>>149135234
Woah, I'm another anon that's just pointing out that the anime isn't even the money maker, it's the promoter of stuff like dolls, toys, and what not.
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>>149129609
Pikachu was cucked by greninja.
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>>149135405
Except 90% of the stuff from the anime is from the game itself. The only original stuff the anime has is the name changes, minor plot deviation, and from XYZ, a new contest and wardrobe change. Otherwise, the anime is firmly drawing all of its ideas from the game. I mean, case in point, did people go to watch the Hoopa movie because of the XYZ characters? Or did they go because of Hoopa himself?
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>>149135539 here. Can't stay and post since i have something to do. If you need a reply, you might as well ask someone familiar with /biz/ to explain why the anime isn't as important to the franchise as you might think it is.
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yandere > tsundere
I told you guys.
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>>149135328
People didn't even realize in Japan until it was pointed out by the director.

Kind of like one of Shokotan's songs in her non-anime single was a song about Serena's feelings for Ash until she talked about it.
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>>149135827
That Shokotan bit was actually pretty well known among Japanese fans, it was the west that didn't see those interviews etc for a year or so.
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>>149122609
>Best Wishes Decolora Adventure 20
What episode is that exactly? Is that season 2?
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>>149136648
There's literally a link to it in that very post.
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>>149136672
Wow I am a retard.
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>>149136914
Also, everything on the list is basically named what it's named on the torrent tracker, so just do some ctrl+f fagging to find it.
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May's tits were so huge in Hoenn it drove me crazy.
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>>149137054
fuck yeah
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>>149100063
It's an implied kiss, but it's not a kiss until it's properly seen.
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>>149137416
It's a kiss. They show cheek kisses all the time. This one was lip on lip.
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>>149137611
Can't be an official kiss if it's not shown. The camera zooming in at their feet don't help.
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>>149137632
The reactions are enough. It's already heavily implied. Though if you want to close your ears and have a different head canon no one is forcing you.
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>>149137632
Are you telling me you've never watched anime kissing when it gets censored before?
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>>149137715
>>149137716
I know, but it bothers me that some people think this way. Makes me want to punch their faces. I come from a certain site which avoids mentioning Serena kissing Ash because "it didn't show them kissing".
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>>149137761
>I come from a certain site
you have to go back
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>>149137761
Guess the director basically saying Ash/Serena is canon won't help you either.
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>>149137761
It's just newfags coming into the medium, best you can do is ignore them. They will soon learn how anime usually plays out or they will just drop the hobby.
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How does Red and Green/Gary Oak enter on this S&M ecuation? We will have best boy back?
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>>149138368
They're postgame, basically not popping up. I don't see how they relate to Cilan, though.
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>>149099996
Yes. Finally she left the fucking show. I had such a huge dislike towards Serena because she wasn't anything like other female companions in this show. She was just one of those cute and annoying school girls with a crush. I expected pokemon to actually do better with female characters but fucking no. Useless piece of shit I say.
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>>149138622
Can't tell if trolling or being serious.
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>>149138622
2/10 you tried.
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>>149100063

Wow, she actually did it.
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>>149139264
THE ABSOLUTE MADWOMAN!
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>>149139264
>>149140167
>Serena kisses Ash and becomes a madwoman
>Director comes the day after the episode and pretty much lets it out that Ash/Serena is canon and becomes a madman
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Wait, did the director actually say that Serena's gonna win in the future? That doesn't seem like the kind of thing he'd get to decide.
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Serena's kind of lame though. Don't see why she should get to win when there are other, more interesting girls.
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>>149140167
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In S/M are they just going to a Pokémon Tech institute like how Jessie and James did? If so what's in it for Ash when he literally has around 60 badges collectively from other regions
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>>149140403
He said there was a hidden message in the episode

Someone responded back that the flowers outside of Ash's house at the end of the episode were baby breath flowers, symbolizing everlasting love, purity, and often show up in wedding bouquets etc. because of it.

Director replied to his original Tweet saying that someone found the answer, and that it was written in the "language of flowers".
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>>149140510
Oh, so it's just a bunch of Easter eggs. You guys do realize that the director doesn't get to decide the future of the show, right?
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>>149140496
The school is about learning to use Z-moves, even though Ash just stumbles upon it. It's kind of less Tech Institute and more like extra lessons.
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>>149140547
He had the same thing done with the kiss and using the flight Serena was taking to let out that it was on the lips. They wouldn't even Easter egg that if there wasn't any basis behind it.
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>>149140553
Wait, that can't be right. What the hell's the fun of a school setting if they're nly taught one thing?
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>>149140547
Don't shoot the messenger, I just relayed the facts.

For this next part, go ahead and shoot: There's signs that even the people up at the top are A-Okay with the ship. I know Masuda and one of the other big three (I forget the names of the other two) retweeted fanart of the pairing. In fact, I believe Masuda did it twice. The third doesn't have a Twitter account at all.
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>>149140633
That's what it is. It's also kind one of the reasons people are kind of iffy about the school setting, even though he originally went to Alola to vacation.
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>>149140610
Luke I said, the director doesn't Ave the authority to make these kinds of decisions. He can do what he wants with the background details and background fluff, but whether Serena actually wins in the future is entirely up to the higher ups in the future. It's more likely that nothing will ever come of it.

We don't even know if he'll continue to be the director for that long.
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>>149140647
>I know Masuda and one of the other big three (I forget the names of the other two) retweeted fanart of the pairing.
You're probably talking about Sugimori who liked messing around with the Ash and Serena figures.
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>>149140680
I think you misunderstood what I wrote, what I'm saying is that they easter egg it because they knew what people were doing up top.
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>>149140682
Nope, Sugimori messed with the figures, but Masuda actually retweeted fan art. Once with this particularly cringy piece, and then a second time on Valentine's Day with something well-drawn.
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Also Auntie Shoko supports the ship.
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>>149100063
Oh shit the googly eyes means that she truly loves him, and then Ash making them means it sparked something in him. OTP set and done.
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>>149140732
As do most of the writers, including ones confirmed to be staying on the staff into Sun and Moon.
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It's always the most boring girls who turn out to be the most popular.
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>>149140712
There was a third one actually.
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>>149140749
>>149140434
3/10 for effort
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>>149140781
Well what do you like about her?
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>>149140712
man I still can't believe Masuda retweeted that piece of shit out of any fanart, I wonder what was going on with his mind back then
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So what was Misty the tsundere that lost? Fucking brilliant.
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>>149140773
Ah, I thought that was the second.

>>149140800
The person who drew that drew another one recently of them being Pikachus, with "Amour is canon" written in the upper corner. I wonder if Masuda can be tricked into retweeting it?
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>>149132976
Red is actually competent. It's not like they're the same character or anything. Red and blue coming back gets me hard. I loved him all the way back in Gold. Lore shit like that gets my motor.
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>>149140794
I think the guy you were talking with ditched you.

I'll chime in, though!

I like how she, unlike prior characters, started out not knowing what she wanted to do with her life, finding a passion along the way, following through with it, finding that it still wasn't 100% what she was looking for, before finally finding another goal to work towards.
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>>149140976
>Red is actually competent.
Being the player character, it is requires of hi to be bale to win everything.
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>>149140976
He's as much of a conversationalist as he was back then too.
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>>149123549
Is she a brocon?
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>>149141036
How's the palsy but also, yes. I like that regardless of its source. Legacy, world building also sweetens the deal

>>149141044
Good
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>>149141050
She tries marrying his brother off to older girls. The one time she succeeds she goes full DO NOT WANT.
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>>149140999
I like characters with a bit more entertaining personalities. Serena just doesn't do anything for me. I feel like she could be cooler, or funnier, or more gutsy, or wild, or anything that gives her a little more flare or charm.

Basically, I prefer characters with a bit more oomph and pizzazz.
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>>149130460
It means he likes snek
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>>149141157
Oh, we got "Action Waifu" periodically (e.g. pic related). More typically, though, she tended to act as something of a counterweight to Ash. The funny thing was, though, instead of them clashing because of this, we instead saw them reign each other in or give in to the other.
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>>149140976
>red is actually competent

well duh, player character

he's also the only player character with a loss
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>>149141157
I actually like Serena because she's different from the usual Pokegirls. She's homely but still capable.
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>>149141233
>>149141280
She just had low entertainment value for me. Hence why I found her boring.

I hope S&M's heroines turn out to have a bit more bang.
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>>149141259
>other player characters
Not really. Red is a character in his own right to an extent. He's to my limited knowledge the only PC with substantial characterisation.
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>>149141353
>Red
>characterization

ahahahahahaha now I know I'm talking to a genwunner

and what not really? he is the only PC who got a loss because "muh throwback"
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>>149141353
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>>149141353
>"..."
>characterization
people are retarded
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>>149141398
Relative to other PCs literally not existing when you aren't playing them, being an autist in the hillside is definitely characterisation.
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>>149141369
>genwunner
Don't be rude. I ran until gen 3. Emulated on and off and then picked up again for X-Y
>you didn't stick around for the dull second act, you must have shit taste.
Ayyyyyy
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>>149141420
that's not how it works anon

hell, SM protagonists right now feel more "characterized" because on the fact that they are immigrants and thus learning the new culture
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>>149141463
ignorance to the fact doesn't make it unreal anon

whether you like the garbage, dull Kanto segment or not, it exists in Gen 2, and you get to beat Red's overleveled yet crappy mons there
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>>149141420
>Relative to other PCs
So? No one was talking about characterization relative to anyone else.
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>>149141465
Sounds more like projection on your part, friend. Nothing about that is characterising. They are still the insert. They start existing as actual characters when they aren't PC any longer OR if pokemon actually decides to take a risk and give them character. Given their aversion to risk I don't think they'll be anything but helpful quest whores who want to 'catch em all'

>>149141483
I thought it being in gen 2 was great. Have you NOT been following the post chain. That sort of continuity nod/lore follow tickles me just right.
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>>149141484
>only PC with substantial characterisation
Yeah it's not like I actually started the whole thing specifically mentioning player characters.
Thanks for being retarded though.
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>>149141525
>projection

that's literally the backstory to them though

and again, a faggot being stuck in a mountain doesn't make one more "characterized", as when you rationalize his reason there, you start putting headcanon garbage

>lore
>Kanto being empty is lore
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>thread dies due to genwunner garbage
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>>149141548
You weren't comparing him to the others. You just said among the PCs he is the only one with "substantial characterisation", which is not true.
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>>149141569
>that's literally their back story though
Yeah and the hero of Kavatch was a prisoner. Gee how characterising.

>empty
What are you even on about
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>>149141599
>you weren't comparing him to others
>you just said among the PCs
Fucking classic.
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>>149118436
>talks to her excitedly
>glances at her crotch for a fraction of a second
>immediately becomes nervous
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>>149141638
>I mentioned them in my post so that automatically means I was comparing them
Learn what the world "relative" works.
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>>149141613
you must be really having those rosetinted glasses huh

>nothing to do in Kanto other than doing the badges again
>removed areas, remake fixed it but still lacks anything to do
>never fixed the level distribution

also the difference between a TES character and SM protag is that the SM protag has something going for him - all of your interactions imply that you are just learning new things in the place, it's something fresh compared to the older games even
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>>149141679
I obviously have a better understanding than you. Substance is not an objective term. It's a criteria based term. A substantial amount of food is most commonly characterised on the basis of function (hunger) and thus by its ability to satiate.
The premise of substance is based on the function.
While food is based on hunger, even a substantial amount of donuts mightn't fill you. While buying a substantial amount of sausages could last weeks.

As the is based on a warrant (criteria), criteria is [function] and the function is [contextual] naturally the term is relativistic by nature. It's just not a subjective relativity based on the observer but an objective relatively based on deviation from a criteria.

Fucking retard.
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>>149141801
>food analogies
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>>149141827
>can't rationally argue with me
I can give you a financial analogy too if that'll make you admit how wrong you were.
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>>149126783
What will stop the writers from the new series from negating it out of spite?
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>>149141862
Feel free to whatever you please.
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>>149141876
So basically, no, you won't admit you pretended to be smarter than you were. Despite being clearly proven wrong. Why am I not surprised?
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>>149141867
Heads of Game Freak that like it, writers also liking it and two confirmed working in the new series, director liking it.
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>>149141157
She is pretty entertaining. I don't see how the other pokegirls were more entertaining. To each their own I guess.
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>>149128744
Even the animators were mad? Where did you hear this from?
>>149128787
That much is obvious, but that doesn't mean it can't also be good.
What would bring more interest than Ash actually winning a tournament? Something can be gained from breaking the status quote a little.

Instead, they chose the rigidity of regularity.
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Serena's mom has some good tits. She is going to grow nicely.
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>>149141994
one of the head animators tweeted something like "we could have really given Satoshi the win this time"
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>>149128878
One Piece is long as fuck. If any show was going to get the Toei treatment, it was going to be One Piece. Consider this, that show hasn't had a end theme for like 6 years.
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>>149100063
Well even if Ash is still a fucking loser. At least something good happened. Let him win the next tournament have Serena come back and end Ash's story finally. Cause quite frankly. Ash needs to fuck off forever.
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So is Serana Ketchum official now?
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>>149142128
Official after this show's timespan
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>>149134961
>Expect another conan-like franchise that will remain prominent for atleast another 10 years revolving around never aging characters without any given conclusion to the story.
It seems you didn't actually watch Conan
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It's unbelievably retarded how it's easier for them to change the art-style than change the story. They just can't have Ash winning for once.
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>>149124000
I'm gonna miss the smug
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>>149143002
What happens if he wins a league? Beats E4? End of story?
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>>149123673
>Millefui's VA
Earsex.
>doing Lillie
Perfect.
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>>149143082
>she was inferior to Serena at every endeavor she attempted
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>>149143196
>she was inferior
Same reason Satoshi lost to Alan.
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>>149143094
10 more seasons of him failing against the elite 4?
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>>149143212
And wouldn't you know it, the two runner-ups in Kalos have a thing going on.
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>>149100063
>Serena saved anime singlehandedly
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>>149143196
she never did get that threesome
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>>149143390
That's because neither of the people she wanted it with were buying what she was selling.
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I miss wolololo
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>>149143423
don't bully millefeui
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>>149143494
You're saying this to one of the people involved in that time /padt/ spent a full, solid hour doing nothing but bullying her.
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>>149100063
>Ash now instantly ages 10 years
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>>149143776
She sucked his soul out through his mouth, leaving behind the empty shell we see in SM.
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